*Skeletor's origins:* *Mini-comics -* *1)* Keldor, brother of King Randor, was messing about with some magic one day. *2)* Keldor got sucked into a parallel universe, where he met a race of skull headed people. *3)* The skull headed people did magic on him to assimilate him into one of their own kind, turning him into the skull headed Skeletor. *4)* "The Great wars" happened, and opened a portal between the skull head world and Eternia. *5)* Skeletor fell through the portal into Eternia, once again. *Filmation cartoon -* Skeletor was a demon from another dimension who crossed over into Eternia. *200X cartoon -* Keldor, half brother of King Randor gets his face melted off in a fight. Hordak then makes him into Skeletor.
technically. they could all be true. as Keldor he may in fact was babbling in magic and discovered Hordak. The race of skull headed people could be the horde. Hordak trained him in magic and they teamed up to fight the great war against his own brother. Keldor got injured in the great war and fled. Randor believes that his brother is dead and he has no clue that Keldor didn't die. Hordak used magic on his injuries and Skeletor as we know him is the end result
@@samwilliams6617 Nah, the race of skull headed people look just like Skeletor, in the first minicomic. There's no indication of them being the horde. Infact that was long before the Evil horde, or Keldor were even thought of. I think each universe is pretty much it's own thing, I only allow authorial intent and some retcons, rather than mashing canon from different timelines. Good try, all the same lol.
I mean, most people are familiar with the original cartoon, and barely at that, seeing him as a largely ineffectual villain who always fails. When one looks into the kinds of things he was actually doing in detail though, a lot of his plans were really sinister if they would have succeeded. If both the writers and audience can be convinced to take him seriously, he would be a genuinely terrifying villain.
Thank you. It always kills me when people say Skeletor makes that sound. I'm like, "He never has said that. How did that even become a thing?" Pixel Dan and others are obviously confusing him with someone else. Great video as always.
@@dboymax1 He mentions it at 19 seconds into the video. You don't hear it but you see it spelled out. If you ever hear toy reviewers (usually) or other adults imitating Skeletor, they always make that sound and as it is pointed out in the video, he NEVER made that sound. Yet everyone always includes it as part of their Skeletor impression.
Thats a good question. Though in overall I think in 80s magazines and such Hordak became aware of Skeletor because he already had fierce magic and skills.
Going by what we know from the Filmation programs, Skeletor was with the Horde up until being abandoned by Hordak on Eternia. Hordak then went to Etheria, where Shadow Weaver betrayed the planet to the Horde in exchange for her powers. So, no. At least, not in Filmation continuity. 😊
In a hardback book I read, Hordak showed skeletor magic, then he took this magic rock that hordak used to mine and I forget what it was called but when Skeletor went behind his back and tried to use the magic it turned him into a living skeleton literally
The rock was Etherium. That was _The Horde_, published by Golden Books. Skeletor gets out his supply of Etherium for another attack on He-Man, only to draw Hordak's attention. It's presented as He-Man's first encounter with Hordak and the Horde, and--as you said--has Skeletor as an Etherian peasant under Hordak's tutelage who got too far ahead of himself and was changed "into a living skeleton" by the Etherium. 😊
I prefer skeletor being king Randors long lost Half brother Keldor The true king of Eternia. the mini comics gave him a more fleshed out origin story. I like how the 2002 series gave skeletor the name Keldor before he became Skeletor.
I think they can all work. He’s actually Keldor, who was Hordak’s pupil, but after disfigurement, no one recognized him and figured he was from another dimension. Skeletor just went with it.
Kinda felt skeletor being a student of Hordak and once part of the Evil Horde never really fit Him as i felt Skeletor was more of a guy who had his own goals and own forces well Hordak was more of a guy you knew was leading an army in dealing with rebels well dealing with his Boss fury
@@Chillin24Seven 100% agree. Smelldor is one idea I would love to be consigned to the dustbin of shitty ideas that should never have been used in MOTU. King Wankskull can join him.
People need to remember that the original series was aimed at children When We Were Young we didn't care about the origins he cared about the action and the story all the time. 2002 series while being marketed towards kids as well was also aimed at the fans of the original series who at the time we're now older and wanted more complex stories
It was possible to fit the Keldor Origin _as we knew it in the 80s_ with the Filmation series--I did it myself, and there were other ways to do it that others have tried. But the Keldor story as developed by 200X, Classics, and subsequent material ... that doesn't work. You can also reconcile Snake Mountain--built by King Hiss and the Snake Men, recorded in the Golden Disks, fell into ruins after King Hiss left, the ruins taken by Hordak as his base during his invasion of Eternia, and reconstructed after the old model by Skeletor after Hordak was banished to Etheria. One thing that only shows up in obscure material and has never been fully developed is the implication that the Sorceress not being able to find Adora _was Skeletor's fault._ A lot of material refers to Skeletor having trapped Hordak in another dimension, and the story "The Coming of Hordak" in the Summer 1985 issue of the US magazine makes it explicit that Skeletor closes the gate behind Hordak as the Ruthless Leader flees with Adora.
The 2000x and the 1980 series I kind of desperate in the 80 version Adam is a fully grown man instead of being a small teenage boy of course the eighties were totally different decade they just didn't explain stuff
Actually having a warlord Keldor origin for Skeletor would work better in the Filmation continuity because it would make sense for the Space Horde to recruit some local thugs to assist with the planet invasion. But doing a skull face transformation in an ancient Hordak temple doesn't work because Filmation Space general Hordak is very different from 80's minicomic/2002 ancient evil warlord Hordak. Upfront I despise the idea of 2002 warlord Keldor being Randor's brother because it was just a homage reusing the name but the DC comics "classics" continuity mashes that up. However if a Filmation human alchemist Keldor dabbled in some magic and got merged with a demon in another dimension (or prehistoric Eternia like the 80s minicomics were implying) - that would work too - though I think it makes the universe small and it really is unnecessary
I tend to way prefer Skeletor as Lord of Destruction from another Dimension over Kekdor, brother of Randor. It fits the earliest minicomics and is the original origin story which served for the first five years or so. How then Skeletor came under the thrall of the Horde needs explanation.
If u read the current “Masters Of The Universe: Revelations” comic, which is a prequel to the show, it explains Skeletor’s origin and how he came to be under the service of Hordak and all.
@@musicmike09 To me if i was to do my own take on Skeletor People i would've had his Race the Gar based on celtic warriors with Adi who would be his grandfather instead of a form used by King hiss would be the leader of his people and would become scareglow in later years and his daughter would still be Saryn as well his son being Kronis before becoming Trap jaw
@@jamm1eifyI see “Revelations” as cannon because it is picking up right where the cartoon left off like the producers said. It’s following the exact same storylines that were left unfinished after the show got cancelled. However, I don’t see the mini comics as not really being cannon at all. They followed the storylines of the cartoon little to none from what I remember.
Good video, about time Skeletor's background in the Filmation show was explored. Screw the Smelldor idea, there's far more interesting origin ideas for Skeletor if we explore the demon from another dimension angle!
Skeletor fell out of ultimate villain status once Hordak came on the scene. Skeletor became more a menace than an actual threat. The Christmas Special totally stripped him of his "evil villain" stripes😂
I personally hate how theyve redone his origins. The reboot should have left it alone. However I can see how there are holes in the story but in the documentary "the power of grayskull" they even tell you that they started doing the comic books with the action figures just to do them. I had my own story that to me made sense without really changing anything just filled in holes. Like how maybe skeletor came to eternia in the midst of a Civil War of sorts, perhaps even when the Horde makes their presence known for the first time and Hordak, seeing skeletors potential as a powerful ally and his skill in dark magic takes him in etc etc.
Interesting question, if Skeletor is from a "mirror" demotion of Alternia, who is his mirror in Alternia. Is the character a polar opposite or a copy. If the later did Sceletor merge to become as strong as he is in the series.
If i was to use Infinita in my take on He-man and She-ra i wouls have infinita as a realm that exist before time as i would of had Horde prime serpos and Unnamed one and some others as my take on the old ones as well as being cosmic horrors that existed before the dawn of time
In the Filmation series we never got King Hiss to make an appearance. So there was no faction of "Snake Men" to be had, or them as a group using Snake Mountain at any point.
There was this unwritten rule back in the 80s that the comic book *had* to be different then the animated cartoon for whatever series you are talking about. G.I. Joe was different in the comics than the cartoon, the Transformers comic book was a good bit different than the cartoon and so on and so on. I think this was done so that the same stories weren't rehashed, and writers can get away with more edgier stories in the comics then the heavily regulated Saturday morning cartoon which also served as a commercial for that toyline. And of course, the live-action feature length movie is always going to be vastly different then your beloved 80s toyline, usually much to the chagrin of the fans.
Most of those "They came from another planet" are lame in my MOTU system Skeletor was once Keldor in Eternia then when defeated by the leaders of Greyskull at the time was taken to Etheria as Hordaks apprentice escaping later taking Snake Mountain and forming his own legion.
Masters of the Universe has had multiple histories since Halperin and Scheimer put together the series bible while ignoring the Glut/Alcala minicomics (if not earlier). You could spackle most of the 80s versions together if you needed to, but 200X was too definitive and self-contained to be folded in. Unfortunately, Classics tried and has produced a mess, and that seems to be governing a lot of things going forward.
In the Filmation series and 99.99999% of the 80s he is not. (The one anomaly is a single minicomic that hints at Keldor connection to Skeletor. But it does not impact any story after it since line was cancelled at that point, nor does it retcon or alter any previous stories since all of those were created and written with no such connection) The "uncle of hero" thing is teased in 2002. But the first official place would be the 2008 CLASSICS toy's "bios".
Howdie friends, my name is Steven Whitehouse. What episode does Adam first become He-man? I have both seasons of He-Man and also She-ra. I've already watched the episode titled "Secret Of The Sword" when Adora becomes she-ra. I've been wondering what episode that Madam Razz and Kowl discover Adora's secret as well.
They never covered that in the series, but they definitely should have. The opening credits for She ra would have made more sense. They had a different opening credits sequence for the first three episodes of the series and they should have continued that until all this had been established, and then used the stock standard opening credits sequence that we all know and love.
Do you like the Filmation’s version of Skeletor?
my favorite version of the "evil lord of destruction"
no. He is prince Keldor.
Yes , absolutely , I especially like finding out what planet he's from.
Yes.
Filmation had to step lightly around Skeletor, because of demands that the series sell toys/be fairly non-controversial.
This is the most I've ever learned about Skeletor.
Great video! Subbed!
Thats fantastic to hear. I always hope fans can learn about He-Man and She-Ra from my videos. 👍😃⭐️
Skeletor never scared me, he was like Cobra Commander - you watch these guys get beaten day after day and they become as fearsome as a gentle breeze.
*Skeletor's origins:* *Mini-comics -* *1)* Keldor, brother of King Randor, was messing about with some magic one day. *2)* Keldor got sucked into a parallel universe, where he met a race of skull headed people. *3)* The skull headed people did magic on him to assimilate him into one of their own kind, turning him into the skull headed Skeletor. *4)* "The Great wars" happened, and opened a portal between the skull head world and Eternia. *5)* Skeletor fell through the portal into Eternia, once again. *Filmation cartoon -* Skeletor was a demon from another dimension who crossed over into Eternia. *200X cartoon -* Keldor, half brother of King Randor gets his face melted off in a fight. Hordak then makes him into Skeletor.
technically. they could all be true. as Keldor he may in fact was babbling in magic and discovered Hordak. The race of skull headed people could be the horde. Hordak trained him in magic and they teamed up to fight the great war against his own brother. Keldor got injured in the great war and fled. Randor believes that his brother is dead and he has no clue that Keldor didn't die. Hordak used magic on his injuries and Skeletor as we know him is the end result
@@samwilliams6617 Nah, the race of skull headed people look just like Skeletor, in the first minicomic. There's no indication of them being the horde. Infact that was long before the Evil horde, or Keldor were even thought of. I think each universe is pretty much it's own thing, I only allow authorial intent and some retcons, rather than mashing canon from different timelines. Good try, all the same lol.
Skeletor is one the most underrated villains. He should be up there with Darth Vader, the Joker, and
Dr Doom. He kind of has a bit of them in him.
I mean, most people are familiar with the original cartoon, and barely at that, seeing him as a largely ineffectual villain who always fails. When one looks into the kinds of things he was actually doing in detail though, a lot of his plans were really sinister if they would have succeeded.
If both the writers and audience can be convinced to take him seriously, he would be a genuinely terrifying villain.
Thank you. It always kills me when people say Skeletor makes that sound. I'm like, "He never has said that. How did that even become a thing?" Pixel Dan and others are obviously confusing him with someone else. Great video as always.
What sound are they talking about?
@@dboymax1 He mentions it at 19 seconds into the video. You don't hear it but you see it spelled out. If you ever hear toy reviewers (usually) or other adults imitating Skeletor, they always make that sound and as it is pointed out in the video, he NEVER made that sound. Yet everyone always includes it as part of their Skeletor impression.
When he worked for Hordak , i wonder if he learnt magic from shadow weaver like in the DC version.
Thats a good question. Though in overall I think in 80s magazines and such Hordak became aware of Skeletor because he already had fierce magic and skills.
@@ToonJukka I always thought skeletor, was hoardak's apprentice in evil, and as a commander in the hoard, and he was already magically powerful.
Going by what we know from the Filmation programs, Skeletor was with the Horde up until being abandoned by Hordak on Eternia. Hordak then went to Etheria, where Shadow Weaver betrayed the planet to the Horde in exchange for her powers. So, no. At least, not in Filmation continuity. 😊
In a hardback book I read, Hordak showed skeletor magic, then he took this magic rock that hordak used to mine and I forget what it was called but when Skeletor went behind his back and tried to use the magic it turned him into a living skeleton literally
The rock was Etherium.
That was _The Horde_, published by Golden Books. Skeletor gets out his supply of Etherium for another attack on He-Man, only to draw Hordak's attention. It's presented as He-Man's first encounter with Hordak and the Horde, and--as you said--has Skeletor as an Etherian peasant under Hordak's tutelage who got too far ahead of himself and was changed "into a living skeleton" by the Etherium. 😊
I prefer skeletor being king Randors long lost Half brother Keldor The true king of Eternia. the mini comics gave him a more fleshed out origin story. I like how the 2002 series gave skeletor the name Keldor before he became Skeletor.
I think they can all work. He’s actually Keldor, who was Hordak’s pupil, but after disfigurement, no one recognized him and figured he was from another dimension. Skeletor just went with it.
Kinda felt skeletor being a student of Hordak and once part of the Evil Horde never really fit Him as i felt Skeletor was more of a guy who had his own goals and own forces well Hordak was more of a guy you knew was leading an army in dealing with rebels well dealing with his Boss fury
I don't. I always hated Keldor.
Keldor is the absolute worst. I hate it. I cannot watch anything that uses that story line. Just trash
@@Chillin24Seven 100% agree. Smelldor is one idea I would love to be consigned to the dustbin of shitty ideas that should never have been used in MOTU. King Wankskull can join him.
The Og He-Man toys now at Walmart 🤗
I’ve got He-Man, Battle Cat and Skeletor. 😃👍
WHAAAT!!! OG He-Man action figures were dope af! Christmas is coming early...for my kid, that is.
3:50 Skeletor might have been a Mormon using the golden plates, has to have been a reference!
Another great upload 👏🏼
Perhaps not a mormon, but a false prophet.....
Great video as always! High quality, clear, and concise! I love this take on Skeletor! Need to see more of the Demon from another dimension origin!
Would’ve been great to learn more during the series.
Very well researched, nicely done. :) I learned some new things here!
Terrific to hear Darah!!! This was an interesting topic to research! :)
People need to remember that the original series was aimed at children When We Were Young we didn't care about the origins he cared about the action and the story all the time. 2002 series while being marketed towards kids as well was also aimed at the fans of the original series who at the time we're now older and wanted more complex stories
You speak for yourself lol when i was a kid me and all my friends wanted cool stories and character bios, i never knew to many that did not.
It was possible to fit the Keldor Origin _as we knew it in the 80s_ with the Filmation series--I did it myself, and there were other ways to do it that others have tried. But the Keldor story as developed by 200X, Classics, and subsequent material ... that doesn't work.
You can also reconcile Snake Mountain--built by King Hiss and the Snake Men, recorded in the Golden Disks, fell into ruins after King Hiss left, the ruins taken by Hordak as his base during his invasion of Eternia, and reconstructed after the old model by Skeletor after Hordak was banished to Etheria.
One thing that only shows up in obscure material and has never been fully developed is the implication that the Sorceress not being able to find Adora _was Skeletor's fault._ A lot of material refers to Skeletor having trapped Hordak in another dimension, and the story "The Coming of Hordak" in the Summer 1985 issue of the US magazine makes it explicit that Skeletor closes the gate behind Hordak as the Ruthless Leader flees with Adora.
The 2000x and the 1980 series I kind of desperate in the 80 version Adam is a fully grown man instead of being a small teenage boy of course the eighties were totally different decade they just didn't explain stuff
Actually having a warlord Keldor origin for Skeletor would work better in the Filmation continuity because it would make sense for the Space Horde to recruit some local thugs to assist with the planet invasion. But doing a skull face transformation in an ancient Hordak temple doesn't work because Filmation Space general Hordak is very different from 80's minicomic/2002 ancient evil warlord Hordak. Upfront I despise the idea of 2002 warlord Keldor being Randor's brother because it was just a homage reusing the name but the DC comics "classics" continuity mashes that up. However if a Filmation human alchemist Keldor dabbled in some magic and got merged with a demon in another dimension (or prehistoric Eternia like the 80s minicomics were implying) - that would work too - though I think it makes the universe small and it really is unnecessary
I think the “Myah!” Thing was more or less just making fun of how Skeletor’s voice sounds
I tend to way prefer Skeletor as Lord of Destruction from another Dimension over Kekdor, brother of Randor. It fits the earliest minicomics and is the original origin story which served for the first five years or so. How then Skeletor came under the thrall of the Horde needs explanation.
If u read the current “Masters Of The Universe: Revelations” comic, which is a prequel to the show, it explains Skeletor’s origin and how he came to be under the service of Hordak and all.
@@musicmike09 To me if i was to do my own take on Skeletor People i would've had his Race the Gar based on celtic warriors with Adi who would be his grandfather instead of a form used by King hiss would be the leader of his people and would become scareglow in later years and his daughter would still be Saryn as well his son being Kronis before becoming Trap jaw
@@musicmike09I don't see Revelations as canon, the mini comics and Filmation cartoon are
@@jamm1eifyI see “Revelations” as cannon because it is picking up right where the cartoon left off like the producers said. It’s following the exact same storylines that were left unfinished after the show got cancelled. However, I don’t see the mini comics as not really being cannon at all. They followed the storylines of the cartoon little to none from what I remember.
Great video! Definitely one of my all time favorite villains!🤘🤘🤘
Even though 80's He Man is my favourite cartoon ever! I like the 2002 Skeletor origin better! With Keldor becoming Skeletor!
This was excellent! Thank you. Subscribed! Peace from Perth Western Australia 🇦🇺
Good video, about time Skeletor's background in the Filmation show was explored. Screw the Smelldor idea, there's far more interesting origin ideas for Skeletor if we explore the demon from another dimension angle!
Wait... Did Optimus Prime narrate the 200X series reboot? 😲
I think just the intro commercial
Yes Peter cullen did! 👌🏼
We were robbed of an Eatock Skeletor impression though...
Haha. Maybe next time he comes in for a guest spot... 😆
Skeletor fell out of ultimate villain status once Hordak came on the scene. Skeletor became more a menace than an actual threat. The Christmas Special totally stripped him of his "evil villain" stripes😂
It was so good to hear James again.
I personally hate how theyve redone his origins. The reboot should have left it alone. However I can see how there are holes in the story but in the documentary "the power of grayskull" they even tell you that they started doing the comic books with the action figures just to do them. I had my own story that to me made sense without really changing anything just filled in holes. Like how maybe skeletor came to eternia in the midst of a Civil War of sorts, perhaps even when the Horde makes their presence known for the first time and Hordak, seeing skeletors potential as a powerful ally and his skill in dark magic takes him in etc etc.
Very nicely done! :D
Thank you very much!
It's not called the 2002 cartoon, it's Mike Young's He-man. 2002 is just the year it came out.
Interesting question, if Skeletor is from a "mirror" demotion of Alternia, who is his mirror in Alternia. Is the character a polar opposite or a copy. If the later did Sceletor merge to become as strong as he is in the series.
Hey big guy this is sledgemaster. We here at home, love ur show
If i was to use Infinita in my take on He-man and She-ra i wouls have infinita as a realm that exist before time as i would of had Horde prime serpos and Unnamed one and some others as my take on the old ones as well as being cosmic horrors that existed before the dawn of time
I thought Skeletor inherited Snake Mountain from the Snake Man after they were defeated.
In the Filmation series we never got King Hiss to make an appearance. So there was no faction of "Snake Men" to be had, or them as a group using Snake Mountain at any point.
There was this unwritten rule back in the 80s that the comic book *had* to be different then the animated cartoon for whatever series you are talking about. G.I. Joe was different in the comics than the cartoon, the Transformers comic book was a good bit different than the cartoon and so on and so on. I think this was done so that the same stories weren't rehashed, and writers can get away with more edgier stories in the comics then the heavily regulated Saturday morning cartoon which also served as a commercial for that toyline. And of course, the live-action feature length movie is always going to be vastly different then your beloved 80s toyline, usually much to the chagrin of the fans.
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SKELET💀R
He just wont quit😶
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Monteeg should have been voiced like Vizzini from the Princess Bride.
Wonder if megatron (beast wars era) stole the golden disks off skeletor 🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣
So a Hordak is batman and Skeletor is the joker his sidekick?
I think skeletore was just misunderstood Just like me. Is kinda like Germany pre 1939 aggressive and misunderstood.😏😏
Most of those "They came from another planet" are lame in my MOTU system Skeletor was once Keldor in Eternia then when defeated by the leaders of Greyskull at the time was taken to Etheria as Hordaks apprentice escaping later taking Snake Mountain and forming his own legion.
Apocalypse is the same as Hordak.. Power wise. MArvel got their idea from Hordak.
Super
What is the noise that people think he made that he never did?
1:29 Optimus Prime!?
Someone's going to talk about how Optimus prime is hyping up he man
Doofus. You know, by saying that, it's you.
He is also Venger from Dungeons and Dragons too hehe.😂
We could say that it's Demo-Man who is from another dimension. Not Keldor.
This only makes me more curious: where did the "myeehhh" _actually_ come from then?
It originated from that 4nonblondes (2005) parody heyaheyaheya video...
@@ToonJukka - wait seriously? I always thought that was referencing it from something else, but that actually makes a lot of sense, lol.
Very cool thank you sir 💀.
Golden disks?
So we separate the Flmation and the comics/20XX.
Masters of the Universe has had multiple histories since Halperin and Scheimer put together the series bible while ignoring the Glut/Alcala minicomics (if not earlier). You could spackle most of the 80s versions together if you needed to, but 200X was too definitive and self-contained to be folded in. Unfortunately, Classics tried and has produced a mess, and that seems to be governing a lot of things going forward.
So Skeletor is not He-Man (Prince Adam) Uncle?
In the Filmation series and 99.99999% of the 80s he is not.
(The one anomaly is a single minicomic that hints at Keldor connection to Skeletor. But it does not impact any story after it since line was cancelled at that point, nor does it retcon or alter any previous stories since all of those were created and written with no such connection)
The "uncle of hero" thing is teased in 2002. But the first official place would be the 2008 CLASSICS toy's "bios".
Howdie friends, my name is Steven Whitehouse. What episode does Adam first become He-man? I have both seasons of He-Man and also She-ra. I've already watched the episode titled "Secret Of The Sword" when Adora becomes she-ra. I've been wondering what episode that Madam Razz and Kowl discover Adora's secret as well.
They never covered that in the series, but they definitely should have. The opening credits for She ra would have made more sense. They had a different opening credits sequence for the first three episodes of the series and they should have continued that until all this had been established, and then used the stock standard opening credits sequence that we all know and love.
Why skeletor n trapjaw's skintone is blue?????
They're a part of race called the Gar. In post-200X stories, that is.
Hilarious
jukka perkele
Cool! Similar to Glut-Alcalá version
Bear in mind that Alcala only did the artwork, never scripting anything MOTU related. ;)
@@Grim2 Yes it's correct. I only mentioned the creative duo to point out the era I was referring to
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