I really feel that Wrecking Ball should be immune to CC while on fireball state, similar to how Magua is during his overrun (but without the DR). That would allow Ball to do stuff without being CC'd every 5 seconds, but it would also leave vulnerabilities so that he doesn't become unstoppable.
is it crazy for me to think that ball's value comes from strategically eating the cooldowns or is it actually that bad edit: yeah nvm i watched the gameplay its too bad though, because ball is horribly annoying at my lower level
The only players I find “broken” are Mauga, sombra, Moira, and sometimes queens heals are super annoying but not THAT bad. Idc what they do to sombra, I’ll always consider her broken. Who thought an invisible hero, with a quarter second hack time, a virus that can ONLY be stopped with cleanse, and more damage than soldier was a good idea? I like her rework, shes no where near as cancerous, but I’ll always hate that bitch. And Moira only because her self heals while doing damage is just crazy, and her suck range is too far
Ana needs to land the ability, Kiri needs to land the ability and use tp too if she's too far, Bap needs to aim the lamp + travel time and deploy time, Weaver needs to have unobstructed LoS and then its a long CD, Lucio needs to be point blank. Brig's pack has 3 charges, autoaim, instant healing, decent range, and a short-ish CD
he means that there is literally 0 counterplay against brig pressing E on someone as a diver. brig is by far the best anti-dive character in the game and this is only one of the many reasons why
Something they could do to give ball something for his team, they could let his fireball create a little streak path on the floor wherever he goes that gives his team a little speed boost, and it resets every time ball uses the ability, so it’s still just a quick burst. If junker Queen can give speed w her shout, why can’t ball?
I used to watch you when I’ve never played ball in my life. After playing ball for a bit I truly realize how good you are at this character. Your movement IQ and use of certain mechanics situationally are unparalleled. Quite frankly I believe now that they refuse to buff ball because like genji, players like you who are so insane at ball will be unrivaled with a good buff. Eventually causing the blizzard verse to implode
@@tloyp2584 bc the devs conformed to everyone complaining that support sucked to play as in the first month and dont do anything to revert the power creep
The zen kick not being on cooldown is high key crazy now that i think about it i knew it was OP but like the amount of times i bait out the kick just to get kicked again is wild
@@aratherlargerodent click on them with his balls. He's supposed to be divable, that's supposed to be his weakness. Giving him boop on his melee makes no sense and is just another part of the insane survivability creep that has occurred in OW2.
@@RobABankWithABagel he's plenty divable already. Playing him is a pain because of any dive character that isn't Genji. The boop is a fun change as a Zen/Junkrat main
What if ball's shield gave a % to his team around him. Say ball gets 300 shields from his ability, his team gets maybe 60 shield or so, 20% or something
just the simple fact OW went from 2 tanks down to 1 tank per team made zen even more OP without any adjustments. Now they nerfed his discord a little bit by not being able to spam it on to the same character, but way to late if you ask me. And still with that nerf he is OP as hell.
@@asssmasher999 oh you right! My bad, I misread :) but having cc immunity with adaptive shields actually would be cool for ball, it’s not very long to make him op and it would be a nice tool for diving tricky targets like Ana or Brig.
@@Vinicius9515 I’d love to see it tbh, it maybe too strong but also it could be a really good tool for ball. Only way to find out is if they let us try it out.
Small hitbox and high lethality against squishies + shout enables her to walk over ball’s team super easily. She also procs ez health regen against ball’s huge hitbox with her knife pull and shotgun being effective against him Edit: Jq comps also happen to be incredibly mobile and survivable which is a bad matchup for ball
This is the one time I can ask what chazm is yapping about😭 I get that you hate zen but your rant about it made almost 0 sense he has almost no mobility or self heals, he NEEDS the kick for survivability bro and even then you 10000% counter a zen
He's not saying Ball is bad against Zen. He is saying Zen is bad for the game because 225 HP + no cooldown kick + 1 tank in OW + discord is actually borderline broken
@@moatef1886 Kick isn't a CC, stuns nobody. Only keeps him alive for a couple more seconds before they get another shot off. Saying his kick is a CC is like saying his kick is as good as sigma's rock, or ana's sleep. He has 225 hp due to how big his hitbox is, and how easy he is to headshot. They actually nerfed discord hard with the 7 second cooldown, and it goes away pretty much almost instantly when someone's out of LOS. And yeah, that's why tanks got buffed when OW2 came out since there is only 1 tank now, if anything Zen needs to get his discord nerf reverted BUT have it do like 10% and ramp up slowly the longer it stays on a target.
What are these lies. Zen the best support in the game?! After the discord performance, he fell off hard. Meanwhile Kiriko can still punish the enemy with a get out of jail free card. Bap has more Dps than soldier and Illari has no falloff so she's a better Widow.
Illari does have falloff. It starts at 30 meters and ends at 50. every hitscan In the game has damage falloff. Baptiste does about 127 damage per second all body shot. Soldier does about 171 damage per second all body shot, and has more bust potential with helix. I'm not saying supports aren't strong, because they very much are, but please get your facts at least correct when making an argument. Source:Official Overwatch Wiki, and patch notes.
Discord in OW 2 is huge problem. One less tank means less a tank's worth less damage mitigation. Discord now is just placed on the only tank remaining, and you're punished for existing and suffer an extreme disadvantage in the tank 1 v. 1. The devs thinking removing damage mitigation didn't require re-thinking easy damage-boosting abilities of Zen and Mercy and adjusting accordingly is a cardinal sin.
Support is by far the most broken role in ow2. Real talk, the DPS role is useless now, tanks like Hog, Moana, and horse lady/ supports like Kiriko, Zen, and Illari can put up the same if not more consistent damage than most DPS heros can. Also most of them have no damage fall off either so
I really feel that Wrecking Ball should be immune to CC while on fireball state, similar to how Magua is during his overrun (but without the DR). That would allow Ball to do stuff without being CC'd every 5 seconds, but it would also leave vulnerabilities so that he doesn't become unstoppable.
Id be happy if he was just immune during piledriver. Like why can sombra hack the force of gravity
@@lonkbonk5859LITERALLY
is it crazy for me to think that ball's value comes from strategically eating the cooldowns or is it actually that bad
edit: yeah nvm i watched the gameplay
its too bad though, because ball is horribly annoying at my lower level
apply this to doomfist during a charged punch too and itd fix sm stuff
@@teddiursoV1you can cancel a charge punch, that would be broken
Every character is broken in the eyes of a wrecking ball player.
The only players I find “broken” are Mauga, sombra, Moira, and sometimes queens heals are super annoying but not THAT bad.
Idc what they do to sombra, I’ll always consider her broken. Who thought an invisible hero, with a quarter second hack time, a virus that can ONLY be stopped with cleanse, and more damage than soldier was a good idea?
I like her rework, shes no where near as cancerous, but I’ll always hate that bitch. And Moira only because her self heals while doing damage is just crazy, and her suck range is too far
considering he is the worse character in the game only reaper and maybe pharah would not be broken
@@Vinicius9515 nope. Even reaper is broke. Self healing for a 250 HP hero is wack
@@ItzSpritz yea but reaper still is one of the weakest hero
Every support character other than Lucio, ye
Most DPS are fine, Souj is an easy match up but she's OP, Sombra is a hard matchup but shes shit
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When I typed ball play into google I stumbled across your channel, I like the content keep it up
Creative. Got a like outta me
He is no 1 ball player.. Even yeatle give up playing ball
“I’m touching” * immediately gets EMP and captive sun *
Chamz : Brig can just counter a dive with E.
Ow2 : I Think you forgot ana, kiriko, baptiste, lifeweaver and even lucio.
Ana needs to land the ability, Kiri needs to land the ability and use tp too if she's too far, Bap needs to aim the lamp + travel time and deploy time, Weaver needs to have unobstructed LoS and then its a long CD, Lucio needs to be point blank. Brig's pack has 3 charges, autoaim, instant healing, decent range, and a short-ish CD
he means that there is literally 0 counterplay against brig pressing E on someone as a diver. brig is by far the best anti-dive character in the game and this is only one of the many reasons why
The example Chazm uses here is awful. He spent like 3-5 seconds shooting the Echo, of course she's going to get healed there.
I love when Chazm gives us ball domination!!!!
Something they could do to give ball something for his team, they could let his fireball create a little streak path on the floor wherever he goes that gives his team a little speed boost, and it resets every time ball uses the ability, so it’s still just a quick burst. If junker Queen can give speed w her shout, why can’t ball?
That or he could leave a fire trail like Torb’s coom that’ll damage enemies
mad respect for balling still after all these years
I used to watch you when I’ve never played ball in my life. After playing ball for a bit I truly realize how good you are at this character. Your movement IQ and use of certain mechanics situationally are unparalleled. Quite frankly I believe now that they refuse to buff ball because like genji, players like you who are so insane at ball will be unrivaled with a good buff. Eventually causing the blizzard verse to implode
I hope ball gets a buff where his adaptive shields can give 100 overhealth to nearby teammates (ignoring how many enemies are nearby)
I wish adaptive shields made Hammond immune to cc
*unzips* here we go again
Wrecking Ball Edgination
4:34 devs had the amazing idea of making brig stun everyone standing behind the target as well
ok that range is just fucking ridiculous. why is every support ability just impossible to miss?
@@tloyp2584 bc the devs conformed to everyone complaining that support sucked to play as in the first month and dont do anything to revert the power creep
Worst thing is that now Tracer and Sombra are played so much more often together with a Zen too and then you have no chance on ball in 90% of the time
4:33 excuse me, what is that?
Zen is not OP, you are just a ball otp and he counters the worst tank in the game easyly, 7s cooldown on getting dc'd is enough
The zen kick not being on cooldown is high key crazy now that i think about it
i knew it was OP but like the amount of times i bait out the kick just to get kicked again is wild
What is zen supposed to do then lmao
He'd just die if someone decides to focus him
@@aratherlargerodent click on them with his balls. He's supposed to be divable, that's supposed to be his weakness. Giving him boop on his melee makes no sense and is just another part of the insane survivability creep that has occurred in OW2.
@@RobABankWithABagel he's plenty divable already. Playing him is a pain because of any dive character that isn't Genji. The boop is a fun change as a Zen/Junkrat main
he literally solos rein...@@aratherlargerodent
You’re actually dog if you think Zen‘s kick is OP. It’s a shooter so fkn shoot him, genius
Stop the madness. Bring back 6v6!
I can't believe chazm has an easier time killing tracer and sombra than brig, kiriko or ana
How does ana can sleep a giant metal ball?
Think we need a Chazm unranked to GM on Zen now
He wont go past diamond
Chazm is a god amongst us ❤
Ball mains: I'm getting countered 😭😭😭
Doom mains: my only counter is myself 🗿🗿🗿
*proceeds to take all cc of the game and return to the spawn*
how is ur wrecking ball progression level so low?
What if ball's shield gave a % to his team around him. Say ball gets 300 shields from his ability, his team gets maybe 60 shield or so, 20% or something
awesome chamz gameplay
How about 3 rectangular deployable 225 health shields on a cool down?
wow so good to find a good ball! hell yah :0) ggwp!
Ok but between Ball, Chazm, Bame1 and Tracktorkid69 who is the better ball player?
For me it's Chamz
chazm minecraft is the best
Tips on when my supports just cry n hold w?
troll with something you never played before, i do that when my moira or mercy onetrick in my team tell me to swap
@@Vinicius9515 it’s always a Moira or mercy one trick Iv thought of picking up doom for the occasion
@@layylowwluu i will always pick rein cause its the character im the worse with
just the simple fact OW went from 2 tanks down to 1 tank per team made zen even more OP without any adjustments.
Now they nerfed his discord a little bit by not being able to spam it on to the same character, but way to late if you ask me.
And still with that nerf he is OP as hell.
Ana bozo calls Zen OP lmao. How hard is it for your little peanut to take Cover for 2 seconds for Zen‘s discord to West off?
umadbruh?
@@AntivenomOW
sick ball gameplay
Damn ball Vs ball is a very fast game. Almost too hard to track.
Give adaptive shields cc immunity
It'd be too op, imagine a support with more shields? That would absolutely suck to go up against.
@@mjabdelrazzaqnot what he said
@@asssmasher999 oh you right! My bad, I misread :) but having cc immunity with adaptive shields actually would be cool for ball, it’s not very long to make him op and it would be a nice tool for diving tricky targets like Ana or Brig.
cc immunity is cool but i think ball would be way too strong
@@Vinicius9515 I’d love to see it tbh, it maybe too strong but also it could be a really good tool for ball. Only way to find out is if they let us try it out.
Ohh yes chazm keep it up i'm almost there
other sups is so strong that i forgot zen is broken
Skill issue
ball
Unranked to gm controller 🎉
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Junkerqueen counters ball?
Small hitbox and high lethality against squishies + shout enables her to walk over ball’s team super easily. She also procs ez health regen against ball’s huge hitbox with her knife pull and shotgun being effective against him
Edit: Jq comps also happen to be incredibly mobile and survivable which is a bad matchup for ball
ow players just about crying about how strong supports are
Epic balls bro
whole vid is yapping abt zen 😴
fam i got the covid and im dead afffffffffffffffffff
This is the one time I can ask what chazm is yapping about😭 I get that you hate zen but your rant about it made almost 0 sense he has almost no mobility or self heals, he NEEDS the kick for survivability bro and even then you 10000% counter a zen
man that take was like an absolute L tbh but I mean we all got our opinions some of us weren’t meant to be devs for a reason 😭
Say you’re silver without saying you’re silver
He's not saying Ball is bad against Zen. He is saying Zen is bad for the game because 225 HP + no cooldown kick + 1 tank in OW + discord is actually borderline broken
@@Tick2Lum I'm masters bro don't project onto me LMFAO
@@moatef1886 Kick isn't a CC, stuns nobody. Only keeps him alive for a couple more seconds before they get another shot off. Saying his kick is a CC is like saying his kick is as good as sigma's rock, or ana's sleep. He has 225 hp due to how big his hitbox is, and how easy he is to headshot. They actually nerfed discord hard with the 7 second cooldown, and it goes away pretty much almost instantly when someone's out of LOS. And yeah, that's why tanks got buffed when OW2 came out since there is only 1 tank now, if anything Zen needs to get his discord nerf reverted BUT have it do like 10% and ramp up slowly the longer it stays on a target.
Kugel spielen
What are these lies. Zen the best support in the game?! After the discord performance, he fell off hard. Meanwhile Kiriko can still punish the enemy with a get out of jail free card. Bap has more Dps than soldier and Illari has no falloff so she's a better Widow.
Illari does have falloff. It starts at 30 meters and ends at 50. every hitscan In the game has damage falloff. Baptiste does about 127 damage per second all body shot. Soldier does about 171 damage per second all body shot, and has more bust potential with helix. I'm not saying supports aren't strong, because they very much are, but please get your facts at least correct when making an argument.
Source:Official Overwatch Wiki, and patch notes.
no es el real chazm es chamz y el no tiene esa cuenta...
Discord in OW 2 is huge problem. One less tank means less a tank's worth less damage mitigation. Discord now is just placed on the only tank remaining, and you're punished for existing and suffer an extreme disadvantage in the tank 1 v. 1. The devs thinking removing damage mitigation didn't require re-thinking easy damage-boosting abilities of Zen and Mercy and adjusting accordingly is a cardinal sin.
I remember when ow was toptier and not dogtier
Support is by far the most broken role in ow2. Real talk, the DPS role is useless now, tanks like Hog, Moana, and horse lady/ supports like Kiriko, Zen, and Illari can put up the same if not more consistent damage than most DPS heros can. Also most of them have no damage fall off either so