He's really good when you have dps that will help you capitalize on their passive. At low ranks tho, the dps just dmg bot into the tank still and dont apply combined pressure with you, so he's still pretty frustrating to play. If you have a cooperative team though, it's amazing how much better you'll do when you tell your team to pressure with you.
As demonstrated on the first map of this video, you don’t necessarily need someone to go in with you to play ball. Just need to engage when your team can help. Dive can certainly make it easier, but it’s not required especially if you are not at top rank
When you go to dive you have to avoid a 1v5 situation. Easiest way is to wait for the enemy tank to engage first. You also have to get good at not dying in a 1v3 or 1v4 situation in case a lot of people turn around to deal with your dive. You won't get any kills in a 1v3 but if you can distract them and not die then you set the rest of your team up for a 4v2
@@hobosorcerer Why would you need a defensive cooldown when you can discord someone and kick you do 75 health lol. Keep in mind you can shoot between that burst. Good luck diving him.
I keep getting wrecked by Zen Tracer and click on this video to see what I'm doing wrong. Turns out my gameplay of instantly dying half the time is accurate.
before boop didnt keep momentum so when the boop is done it resets balls momentum so the fireball drops, but now that boop keeps momentum the fireball remains through the boop
Not enough people say this but I'll take a flanking lucio and zen that apply pressure ANY DAY over a healbotting kiriko or bap that are allergic to using the primary fire button. I've also found more success taking matters into my own hands with ana lol.
It's harder for all tanks this season, but Ball gets hit less hard than most other tanks because his playstlye makes him a harder target to begin with.
@@hermitmoth6118 idk man. With zen being so meta ball gets burned in 2 seconds. Adding 75 shield to his health this season certainly isnt a balanced enough compensation for all the other major changes weve seen.
@@donovan4222 The idea that ball has the best tank survivability because he is fast is a myth. Primarily because of all the CC in the game. Ball is the only tank that literally has no ability to eat damage. Dva has DM, Rein has Shield, Zarya has bubble, Doom & Ram can reduce damage taken, Orisa, Sig, the list goes on. You might argue "Ball has adaptive shields", sure, but even that got nerfed many patches ago when they reduced its effectiveness by 25%. Ball has no way of defending himself/eating damage without getting immediately punish for being in enemy line of sight. It rough bro. Trust me, i play a lot of ball.
Because the new DPS passive is awful for most tanks particularly hog and mauga who rely on their self heals to stay alive. Ball isn't as negatively affected since he can disengage, get a health pack and then reengage quickly thanks to his high mobility. He's not great on his own but does well when he has good dps follow up which is why he is way better in higher ranks then lower ranks since most high rank players play better with a ball then a team of plats would.
tanking this season is about staying hidden in a corner and not exploding to zen discord. Ball has the advantage of getting away before things get hard. He can't kill anything on its own but doesn't die easily either.
Y’all did the same move 5 times at last point and the tank didn’t dive you a single time and the sups just sat main every single time how is this high gm LOLL
You no joke would be the worst person to take any type of in game balancing advice from. You can respect a role but, you still have to understand when a role is too op, why do you think they added the new dps passive? Almost like the devs pre season 9 knew that supports were too op.
@gabeitch5578 I don't think this is soft aim he's on keyboard. Softaim is is usually a Microsoft/Sony hardware. I dont think he's cheating but he's definitely using Regens to his advantage
Now it's time for you to FINALLY get good in season 9
You’re right I got to get unwashed now
He's really good when you have dps that will help you capitalize on their passive. At low ranks tho, the dps just dmg bot into the tank still and dont apply combined pressure with you, so he's still pretty frustrating to play. If you have a cooperative team though, it's amazing how much better you'll do when you tell your team to pressure with you.
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It would be much harder to climb if you don't have someone to play with
Alright it’s not just me
That ‘30’ was his supports deaths added 💀
the seasonal chazm cope has arrived
Love how genuinely ball is more viable than it’s been since season one purely because the devs have force of willed the tank roll into the ground
Ball is always good in my heart
london was scrimming lucio zen ball tracer
Its the best comp
19:30 the kiriko of all people gets to complain about fun...
My problem when I play ball is that I never get dps that can dive.then when we lose I take the blame
As demonstrated on the first map of this video, you don’t necessarily need someone to go in with you to play ball. Just need to engage when your team can help. Dive can certainly make it easier, but it’s not required especially if you are not at top rank
When you go to dive you have to avoid a 1v5 situation. Easiest way is to wait for the enemy tank to engage first. You also have to get good at not dying in a 1v3 or 1v4 situation in case a lot of people turn around to deal with your dive. You won't get any kills in a 1v3 but if you can distract them and not die then you set the rest of your team up for a 4v2
Ball got nerfed from F tier all the way back around to S tier
That’s a buff 😂
2:20 also used to have an extra tank to peal against divers
Yes and now you dont even need the one tank left to peel for you. Just discord + Kick, or TP, or Fade, or Lamp/Burst.
@@A_Crab_YT melee is not a good strat against most competent divers tho /:
8:17 when you get the good succ.
I can’t wait till they rework ball or make him the dps or support he deserves to be
"support players are babies now, once Zen Lucio was meta Zen didn't have a kick and 200hp" Discord orb affected a 40% instead of a 20% 😐
So he went from 40% discord to 20%, with a melee that can get anyone off of him, and enough health that he can 1v1 almost any character in the game.
@@dragondinomite3005 The boop only works if they're close enough, and most other characters have defensive cooldowns. Zen does not.
@@dragondinomite3005 and Tracer's prouectile size allows her to two-clip every character in the game, but yall keep complaining about supports
@@diegopastordiaz9865 and all of the supports have massive bullet/weapon sizes too, zen was HARD meta, he needed a nerf.
@@hobosorcerer Why would you need a defensive cooldown when you can discord someone and kick you do 75 health lol. Keep in mind you can shoot between that burst. Good luck diving him.
I keep getting wrecked by Zen Tracer and click on this video to see what I'm doing wrong.
Turns out my gameplay of instantly dying half the time is accurate.
5:00 the greed is real with this one
8:28 whats different about fireball?
think hes saying the boop is so strong now the fireball wont get interrupted and just keeps momentum
before boop didnt keep momentum so when the boop is done it resets balls momentum so the fireball drops, but now that boop keeps momentum the fireball remains through the boop
Whats Chazms sensitivity and dpi? and more importantly his damn ball mode sensitivity cause god damn can he track
Games really just revolve entirely around Zen now, don't they?
It wasn't great before, but now it's like he decides every fight.
As a support and mostly Lúcio player, I’m ok with the dps passive because I’m not healing my team anyways 😃
Not enough people say this but I'll take a flanking lucio and zen that apply pressure ANY DAY over a healbotting kiriko or bap that are allergic to using the primary fire button. I've also found more success taking matters into my own hands with ana lol.
I remember you saying "if you melee with ball and you still have ammo, you can't aim." hm...
he said that for people who just shoot two bullets and melee continuously on close range, not for finishing off low hp targets
zenyatta does a little bit too much fucking damage and has too much hp for a glass cannon
As a ball main, I'm so happy to hear chasm say ball is beh-uh
tracer does wayy too much damage even for her fragility level
That tracer was so good. Why did Ana not nano her the whole time instead of Cassidy?
Them hit boxes crazy almost made me quit the whole game
this hasnt aged too well
The title says Wrecking Ball is good, but it seems like you die instantly because of Zen. Yeah, you can play Ball, but you can't have any fun.
Why is lucio named like that haha
3mins into the vid and idk how accurate the title is 😂
It’s so difficult as ball this season bro idk what ur talking about 😂 and I’m masters
It's harder for all tanks this season, but Ball gets hit less hard than most other tanks because his playstlye makes him a harder target to begin with.
@@hermitmoth6118 idk man. With zen being so meta ball gets burned in 2 seconds. Adding 75 shield to his health this season certainly isnt a balanced enough compensation for all the other major changes weve seen.
Worst patch ever imo
@@ifeanyieziemeFILMSThat’s true with literally every tank though. Ball still has the best survivability in the game.
@@donovan4222 The idea that ball has the best tank survivability because he is fast is a myth. Primarily because of all the CC in the game. Ball is the only tank that literally has no ability to eat damage. Dva has DM, Rein has Shield, Zarya has bubble, Doom & Ram can reduce damage taken, Orisa, Sig, the list goes on. You might argue "Ball has adaptive shields", sure, but even that got nerfed many patches ago when they reduced its effectiveness by 25%. Ball has no way of defending himself/eating damage without getting immediately punish for being in enemy line of sight. It rough bro. Trust me, i play a lot of ball.
otp ball here, hit master last season, road to gm now!!
BUFF BALL BOOP
BUFF BALL BOOP
BUFF BALL BOOP
I think season 9 for me is the worst season to play a ball. It's way too much hard to live.
Stop overcommitting.
Can u edit ur vids more
Go to his main channel
but is he?
did bro actually hit camp 1 or is he copeing
Let me grab junkrat rq...
they could of won that if someone in their team went sombra
Unranked to gm controller 🎉
Chazm plzzzz man
Pleeease
I want to be li chaxm when i grow up
Ballin 9
Zen nerf soon please, for all our sake
Why is ball better? Shouldnt the bigger healthpools give him more of a disadvantage since he's such low dps already?
Because the new DPS passive is awful for most tanks particularly hog and mauga who rely on their self heals to stay alive.
Ball isn't as negatively affected since he can disengage, get a health pack and then reengage quickly thanks to his high mobility.
He's not great on his own but does well when he has good dps follow up which is why he is way better in higher ranks then lower ranks since most high rank players play better with a ball then a team of plats would.
tanking this season is about staying hidden in a corner and not exploding to zen discord. Ball has the advantage of getting away before things get hard. He can't kill anything on its own but doesn't die easily either.
Because all his tank counters got fucked super hard
@@Freezerboy69 Also I feel like no crit hitbox plays a big role too, you can farm headshots on most tanks pretty easily now but not on ball
Y’all did the same move 5 times at last point and the tank didn’t dive you a single time and the sups just sat main every single time how is this high gm LOLL
Why would winston dive a ball?..................
@@cagxplays9602it worked it very well ignoring him eh?? Sthu
@@cagxplays9602 you must’ve been on enemy team :D
@@TwistedMetal32 You must be in bronze if you think winston should dive a ball...............
@@cagxplays9602 if I’m the Winston I’m not letting a ball and tracer do the same attack 5x in a row. And I’m silver buddy
19:28 playing zen then swapping to kiri and then complaining about ball is actual mental illness
edit: then complains about hitboxes LMAO
Especially when ball does less damage compared to last season.
everything else is bad
good video
ball
dank vid
*Promosm* 😩
😭
zen lucio is bad
It's the meta comp right now in scrims.
the cope
Lots of salty support players out here lmao
supports players cringe
Dude cant do a single video without crying about supports... pathetic.
Average support player
@donovan4222 nah, I'm a tank player, but I know the importance of respect other roles.
@@darthfellion support cooldowns ruined the game so we disrespect supports on this channel 😎
Cry about it.
You no joke would be the worst person to take any type of in game balancing advice from.
You can respect a role but, you still have to understand when a role is too op, why do you think they added the new dps passive? Almost like the devs pre season 9 knew that supports were too op.
2:52 is mad sus but i respect the grind. The lock on was inane even tho your using keyboard. Seriously weird. Good on you tho.
Soft aim?
@gabeitch5578 I don't think this is soft aim he's on keyboard. Softaim is is usually a Microsoft/Sony hardware. I dont think he's cheating but he's definitely using Regens to his advantage