Wrong and by the way: you show and don't explain! NATO has the the extra part under the watch so makes it bigger. Technically you have 3 ring NATO and 4 ring NATO (the buckle is not really a ring, but they keep calling then 5 ring). Zulu has no extra part under the watch and only 2 rings and the buckle (or again: if you want call it 3 ring).. so to sum up: you show 4 NATO bands (3 and 4 rings or 3 and 5 if you call the buckle a ring) and one Zulu which is by definition a 2 ring strap (again: 3 if you call the buckle a ring)...
If one take as definition for "NATO" strap the ones that follow British MoD DEF STAN 66/15 of December, 1973, the ones with rounded four keepers (loops) was not a "NATO" strap, because the MoD specification is just 3 keepers (loops). Someone say in another video that the "ZULU" name came because back in time a American company - International Watchman Inc.; register the name "NATO" as their trademark, so who want sell NATO straps in USA need pay taxes for then. Due this another company created the brand "ZULU", with models with one layer and 3 keepers (loops, and two layers with 4 keepers (loops). Fortunately the Chinese companies gives bananas for USA comercial rules, and their "NATO" straps became available for everyone. Anyway this matter is moot, today "NATO" strap became definition for any strap made in Nylon, Canvas, Leather...with 1 or 2 layer, also in two parts... even the strap model used by Sean Connery in 1964 James Bond movie - that was released 9 years before the British Mod DEF STAN 66/15 specifications, became a... "NATO strap".
I'll bite...NATO is just a name the British gave the strap they introduced...it has nothing to do with the North Atlantic Treaty. And yes, I do know Russia was not an independent country in the times of NATO v the Eastern Bloc.
This may have been mentioned below, but there are two significant benefits of the 5-ring Zulu over a standard NATO strap. First, don't simply pass the strap through the bottom two rings. Instead, pass them through and then loop the strap end back between them. That way when you put on the watch and cinch down to tighten it to your wrist, you aren't putting any pressure on the bottom spring bar. The tension gets held by the friction of the strap as it passes between the two rings. Secondly, Zulus use larger rings than NATOs and therefore they can be "flipped" or rotated on the axis of their attachment point. So, after you put your watch on, pass the remaining end of the strap up and through the two "top" rings, over the uppermost one, and then under the second one. Then you can rotate the second ring upward, creating a point of friction between those two rings. If your buckle pin fails, that tension should help hold the watch on your wrist.
Jesus. I, a Russian, was quite surprised by the first watches shown here, the good ol' Amphibia. not something I would expect outside of the country. I've never had them though. My grandpa always had his "Komandirskiye" ("Commander's"), other popular Vostok watches. But they are the cheapest and he buys new ones every couple of years (quality has gone downhill since the ussr collapse). But hey, these cost a bottle of whiskey and he always brings them to fish when it's -40 degrees (both C or F, huehuehue). I myself only have soviet "Pobeda" (victory), when it comes to russian watches. made in the 1950s, sometimes they run too fast, but I like the old school looks when worn with tweed suit anyway they look too tiny for today's "men watches", kinda hard to find long enough wristband, they are usually ladies size and my arm is well.. not among the smallest.
I have bought a zulu leather strap. However, it's not as good as nylon. It's too thin. Maybe it's made from pull-up leather, and the price is also cheap around $8.
the additional strap has nothing to do with safety of the watch, the watch stays on with a missing pin with other straps including single pass, parachute, marine straps, etc.
Never understood how that bit, not attached to the watch in any way. Is considered a safety feature. With or wiithout the extra bit it would be the same if one of the pins came out.
The extra band can be a safety feature when you remove the clock from the wrist, avoid that the clock slide over the bigger band and fall on the ground. Now the safety feature against pin failure is the fact that the bigger band pass over the pins and under the strap, if one pin broken the other keep the clock attached bot the strap, in a two pieces strap, the clock will fall. The two bandas is not a "NATO" strap new feature, are in WW2 era British military strap - e.g. VB Hygienique and in the commercial 1908 "Victor" strap.
I think most of the negatives comes from people who were pissed off when you didn't show correctly the middle watch at first!!! I was pissed you were off screen :)
I know I'm late on this but the Zulu you have it on wrong. you are to take the end back through the first ring and pull to put the tension on the watch to hold it it is different than the nato
Your ability of explaining stuff is similar to most of my school and college teachers and professors . Hope you do something about it . Sorry for being rude .
Would have been nice if you could have posted a few links for those bands especially the leather one. Not even sure if you said what brand it is? Hope you read these comments and improve your videos
He don't explain, just show his watches. Anyway the matter is confuse, for some guys the ZULU strap is the one with big rounded keepers, for another's is the one with just one band - the right in the video.
I find the extra rings to be of no benefit whatever and prefer the cleaner 3 ring straps. I realise that the extra loop is there to stop the watch head from rotating, but I have never had any of my watches move one bit without it. I also do not see the point of having a nylon loop strap like all of those seen in this video (which obviously give peace of mind if a strap pin goes) and having a pinned buckle. The extra safety of the band is useless as the pin on the buckle becomes the weak point in the strap. Thanks for the video.
The loop strap has nothing to do with pin breakage. It's to stop the head falling off when not on your wrist. Some heads are more susceptible than others.
It's a bit of a taboo to have leather on a dive watch. So you're asking yourself what's the purpose of a leather zulu band, right? They work with your explorer watches like a seiko alpinist or a Rolex explorer. Those watches are not dive nor dress. They're in between watches like a pilot watch. Btw, the zulus feel more comfortable because leather just feels better in general. It molds to your skin and let's you breathe.
Thanks for the video. Some key parts of the action were going on outside the screen, so am I right in assuming that the only difference between Natos and 5-ring Zulus is that the Zulu is thicker and has sturdier rings? Zs
Natos have a buckle and three rings squared off vs Zulus 5 rings being more rounded. I find a more precise and comfortable fit with the 5 and 3 ring Zulus. You can snug them down just right.
Because it isn't always enough depending on your wrist size. Natos just hold down excess strappage better. If you're one to cut off excess and flame-seal the ends, Natos are fine. I prefer Zulus.
I installed the NATO strap as you described and I ran into a problem: when resting my forearm on a table, the buckle has a big chance of scratching the table surface. So why installing the strap this way (beginning from the 12 o'clock side of the watch) and not from the 6 o'clock side - which reduces the scratching chance?
I'll save three and a half minutes of your time: he doesn't explain the difference.
I wish I had see this before hahaha
Bless you
Thanks man appreciate it
They never do. You Tubers just love to hear themselves talk.
2 minutes in before I wised up. Waste of bandwidth.
This is not an explanation of the difference, it's just "these are my watches. So beautiful. I like this one."
Exactly, the videos explains nnothinng xD
Wrong and by the way: you show and don't explain! NATO has the the extra part under the watch so makes it bigger. Technically you have 3 ring NATO and 4 ring NATO (the buckle is not really a ring, but they keep calling then 5 ring). Zulu has no extra part under the watch and only 2 rings and the buckle (or again: if you want call it 3 ring).. so to sum up: you show 4 NATO bands (3 and 4 rings or 3 and 5 if you call the buckle a ring) and one Zulu which is by definition a 2 ring strap (again: 3 if you call the buckle a ring)...
this is a better explanation
Henk thank you for your explanation. Thanks to you this video is not a complete wast of time.
If one take as definition for "NATO" strap the ones that follow British MoD DEF STAN 66/15 of December, 1973, the ones with rounded four keepers (loops) was not a "NATO" strap, because the MoD specification is just 3 keepers (loops).
Someone say in another video that the "ZULU" name came because back in time a American company - International Watchman Inc.; register the name "NATO" as their trademark, so who want sell NATO straps in USA need pay taxes for then. Due this another company created the brand "ZULU", with models with one layer and 3 keepers (loops, and two layers with 4 keepers (loops).
Fortunately the Chinese companies gives bananas for USA comercial rules, and their "NATO" straps became available for everyone.
Anyway this matter is moot, today "NATO" strap became definition for any strap made in Nylon, Canvas, Leather...with 1 or 2 layer, also in two parts... even the strap model used by Sean Connery in 1964 James Bond movie - that was released 9 years before the British Mod DEF STAN 66/15 specifications, became a... "NATO strap".
One thing that always makes me laugh is putting a NATO strap on a Russian watch
I'll bite...NATO is just a name the British gave the strap they introduced...it has nothing to do with the North Atlantic Treaty.
And yes, I do know Russia was not an independent country in the times of NATO v the Eastern Bloc.
This may have been mentioned below, but there are two significant benefits of the 5-ring Zulu over a standard NATO strap. First, don't simply pass the strap through the bottom two rings. Instead, pass them through and then loop the strap end back between them. That way when you put on the watch and cinch down to tighten it to your wrist, you aren't putting any pressure on the bottom spring bar. The tension gets held by the friction of the strap as it passes between the two rings. Secondly, Zulus use larger rings than NATOs and therefore they can be "flipped" or rotated on the axis of their attachment point. So, after you put your watch on, pass the remaining end of the strap up and through the two "top" rings, over the uppermost one, and then under the second one. Then you can rotate the second ring upward, creating a point of friction between those two rings. If your buckle pin fails, that tension should help hold the watch on your wrist.
Alex Navarro dude, you explained the zulu for the op, THANK YOU...
can you do a video of what you explain in writing. it would be a great help thanks
Amazing how many nasty comments for a guy who’s just trying to help someone out. Pretty sad.
so I am not the only one who noticed that there was no explanation.
Jesus. I, a Russian, was quite surprised by the first watches shown here, the good ol' Amphibia. not something I would expect outside of the country.
I've never had them though. My grandpa always had his "Komandirskiye" ("Commander's"), other popular Vostok watches. But they are the cheapest and he buys new ones every couple of years (quality has gone downhill since the ussr collapse). But hey, these cost a bottle of whiskey and he always brings them to fish when it's -40 degrees (both C or F, huehuehue).
I myself only have soviet "Pobeda" (victory), when it comes to russian watches. made in the 1950s, sometimes they run too fast, but I like the old school looks when worn with tweed suit
anyway they look too tiny for today's "men watches", kinda hard to find long enough wristband, they are usually ladies size and my arm is well.. not among the smallest.
Nato = three square rings, Zulu = 4 round rings. That's it. No more to be said. The rest of the video was faff. Codswhallop.
And the one with just 2 rings, and one layer - the one at right in the desk, what is?
Very useful. Thanks. A slight suggestion - try to keep the feature you're discussing in the frame.
so, whats the difference?
leather vs nylon
I have bought a zulu leather strap. However, it's not as good as nylon. It's too thin. Maybe it's made from pull-up leather, and the price is also cheap around $8.
@@TheMurrut Yeah, i guess haha
Notice 2 rings under the watch. You can lock inplace with those. Thats why theres 2.
the additional strap has nothing to do with safety of the watch, the watch stays on with a missing pin with other straps including single pass, parachute, marine straps, etc.
Good lord dude, if you find the watch is off camera or off center, re- fucking do it
So, where's the explanation?
Never understood how that bit, not attached to the watch in any way. Is considered a safety feature. With or wiithout the extra bit it would be the same if one of the pins came out.
The extra band can be a safety feature when you remove the clock from the wrist, avoid that the clock slide over the bigger band and fall on the ground.
Now the safety feature against pin failure is the fact that the bigger band pass over the pins and under the strap, if one pin broken the other keep the clock attached bot the strap, in a two pieces strap, the clock will fall.
The two bandas is not a "NATO" strap new feature, are in WW2 era British military strap - e.g. VB Hygienique and in the commercial 1908 "Victor" strap.
Vostok amphibia with blue nato is perfect
Hi thanks for the video. I don't think you mentioned the make/model for the middle watch. Thanks
Steinhart ocean one vintage
so...what is the difference? i don't get it.
I thought that Zulu straps don’t have the secondary strap.
Your the Best
So what was the purpose of this video again?
Still confused.
I think most of the negatives comes from people who were pissed off when you didn't show correctly the middle watch at first!!! I was pissed you were off screen :)
I know I'm late on this but the Zulu you have it on wrong. you are to take the end back through the first ring and pull to put the tension on the watch to hold it it is different than the nato
Not too many zulu straps out there so I end up cutting out the piece on the nato straps and turning them into zulus.
This is not the correct way to lock in a 5 ring zulu.
you didn't demonstrate how to buckle 'em up ! unbelievable.
It's a shame when cousins marry.
Thanks to this video I just bid on a Vostok amphibia with a gorgeous nato strap
I agree, I like Zulu straps better
Your ability of explaining stuff is similar to most of my school and college teachers and professors . Hope you do something about it . Sorry for being rude .
A Russian watch on a bond NATO strap seems kind ironic.
you have the zulu strap wrong, it has to loop between the two rings and then fold over the the claps to secure...
This video does NOT explain NATO vs ZULU straps...
well ou did not mention the difference, so I imagine is the shape of the rings... :/
The visible difference is Nato, Zulu have different hardwares.
Would have been nice if you could have posted a few links for those bands especially the leather one. Not even sure if you said what brand it is? Hope you read these comments and improve your videos
just a heads up the nato strap secondary strap is to secure the watch head location
He doesn't even know how to thread a zulu strap properly ffs.😢
WTF? Did I miss the part where he explains the difference between Nato and Zulu?
He don't explain, just show his watches.
Anyway the matter is confuse, for some guys the ZULU strap is the one with big rounded keepers, for another's is the one with just one band - the right in the video.
Ya as many said, this isn't an explanation of the difference. Its just you showing your watches. Lol.
I find the extra rings to be of no benefit whatever and prefer the cleaner 3 ring straps. I realise that the extra loop is there to stop the watch head from rotating, but I have never had any of my watches move one bit without it. I also do not see the point of having a nylon loop strap like all of those seen in this video (which obviously give peace of mind if a strap pin goes) and having a pinned buckle. The extra safety of the band is useless as the pin on the buckle becomes the weak point in the strap.
Thanks for the video.
That's a million dollar observation! Bravo!💰💰🎇🎇
The loop strap has nothing to do with pin breakage. It's to stop the head falling off when not on your wrist. Some heads are more susceptible than others.
Leather straps are the way to go
You didn't explain the difference
I hope you are ok. Haven't posted in 4 years
Useless
It's a bit of a taboo to have leather on a dive watch.
So you're asking yourself what's the purpose of a leather zulu band, right? They work with your explorer watches like a seiko alpinist or a Rolex explorer. Those watches are not dive nor dress. They're in between watches like a pilot watch.
Btw, the zulus feel more comfortable because leather just feels better in general. It molds to your skin and let's you breathe.
waste because the 1st 4 are nato the last one with 1 strap is a zulu.
Not to nitpick, but what you are calling buckles are are actually keepers.
Lovely video. Do you mind if I ask what it is that you do (or were doing at the time of this video) to cut your fingers up so much?
He probably did that changing the watch bands lol
Why didn't you put them on and show us? And explain?
Link to the two leather?
Thanks for the video. Some key parts of the action were going on outside the screen, so am I right in assuming that the only difference between Natos and 5-ring Zulus is that the Zulu is thicker and has sturdier rings?
Zs
Natos have a buckle and three rings squared off vs Zulus 5 rings being more rounded. I find a more precise and comfortable fit with the 5 and 3 ring Zulus. You can snug them down just right.
Ok, so the double rings also have functional benefits, I thought they were just for the looks. Thanks for the explanation!
Zs
I am also kinda confused as the functional differences were not explained. Why have 5 rings if 3 is enough?
Because it isn't always enough depending on your wrist size. Natos just hold down excess strappage better. If you're one to cut off excess and flame-seal the ends, Natos are fine. I prefer Zulus.
The extra rings also can help protect against knife attacks.
Sorry, kidding.
I installed the NATO strap as you described and I ran into a problem: when resting my forearm on a table, the buckle has a big chance of scratching the table surface. So why installing the strap this way (beginning from the 12 o'clock side of the watch) and not from the 6 o'clock side - which reduces the scratching chance?
NICE WATCHES
would help to have the strap in the picture frame
This is not an explanation, bring the dislikes back please.
Is it normal that my nato's are VERY uncomfortable?? Sometimes it hurts the sides of my wrist!
To me NATO's are very comfortable
Y 27 my nato is comfortable
Where can I buy the last NATO you showed, the green one on the scuba dude?
Maybe you can find favorite Nato at do-straps.com
Love the natos!! Great vid! just subscribed you are welcome to Watches Galore!!👍👍
Thanks I am subscribing to you as well. Best wishes.
Cost is what that is nicr
is the leather nato real? or plastic leather?
Francis Caina real leather
thanks! very informative
very good
Seiko Yuk
I love the Steinhart but I don't know the reference