The ITX Case Everyone* Wants
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00:05:50 "Now there's a bit of custom work happening here" is one of the biggest understatements ever, having seen your previous videos on it... 😂
he made the best and most detailed build with all the mods i have seen since years
Yeah its HEAVILY modded with precision 3d printed parts specifically for that scenario. Kinda unfair comparison. Should have used the both cases with the exact same setup\pieces to compare temps and performance
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@@awepizzaDoesn’t matter, T1 in its stock form is far superior to this scuffed fractal copy, I mean the fractal doesn’t even accept 240mm radiators, that’s pretty bad.
@@cactuscat8009comment back to me later, there's someone on par that even optimum took inspiration from
@@awepizza this is what he does
Knew it and was waiting for it. It was a matter of time that the price gauging for itx cases was laid to rest thank you Fractal Design.
Looks pretty different actually, as far as rectancle boxes go.
At this point I think the FormD T1 is peak sff. I own both v1 and v2 I’m still using the v1 and I don’t think I’ll ever use another case for my main build.
Pray that there will not be another motherboard standard this century,lol
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Is she awake?
With the T1 being unavailable almost all the time, I wonder if a mod to the case top panel could be done to allow for a radiator to be mounted 🤔
You can definitely fit a 120 liquid cooler in the terra.
I just simply love how unbiased this whole video is. At the end you still recommend the case despite all the drawbacks.
Best channel out there
The design with panel gaps is there to not notice the imperfections. That's why cars have gaps between panels as well :)
fractal looks good but prolly very heavy... i have nr200p (i dont use TG) and zotac 3090 trin OC with 84C vram temps(copper modded with putty) gpu core at 72C at 1550rpm with 390W! and ALF II 240 on side. I love it.! i have 3cm 3d printed feeting and arctic p12 SLIM 12cm fans on bottom(they cooled gpu 10C!)
Thank you for this reivew! Great insights.
Still going for the Terra, because the T1 is OUT OF STOCK.
i would like one small pc for music production, which means it can have a smaller mediocre graphic card (but with the availability of using the 2nd screen)
Shipping needs to be factored in if you're not in the US. The Terra is available domestically, often with free shipping. The T1 is more expensive plus it needs expensive shipping to where I live.
Any dust problems running negative pressure like that? Especially with no filters?
this case is amazing, i love the shade of white they went with but the green is just so unique
Did you test the temps with the bottom fan as intake?
Thank you for this review! I think while this case is pretty - it got the 'tiktok' hype treatment causing everyone to speak well on it without any real consideration to the competition.
Exactly.
Would love to get a T1 but it seems to be perpetually sold out everywhere, so I'll probably settle for this.
The wood cover looks 100 times better
Great video. I've noticed a keyboard change recently, is it the Flachion? Can we expect a video on this soon? and which switches did you choose? Cheers!
I'm jealous you can run 300W cards that quietly. My zotac rtx 3080 holo amp is undervolted and makes so much noise in my dan A4 case.
Sadly far too many limitations between cpu cooler height and gpu. Not supporting 60mm cards and 70mm coolers that's a no go for me
Can we request you to test something? If possible, AtlasOS seems interesting, for performance and more importantly for latency, since it increased drastically from Win7 up to Win10 or Win11.
considering this case! will an RTX 3090 fit in here? preferred PSU?
The T1 looks great but I feel like it's too boxy and stale, no character for a desk setup unlike the Terra. As long as you dont have a mega thick gpu running air in the terra is well past good enough.
Gotta buy one but i gotta wait until i upgrade my CPU and change from my b350, basically never
Can somebody enlighten me why you want the bottom fan exhausting? It seems so counter intuitive to me. Instead I'd push cold air in from the bottom and support the airflow of the graphics card, pushing warm and therefore rising air through the top
I agree with you... way I've heard it explained is that supposedly the air circulation created by the fan supercedes the airflow that would naturally occur due to convection.
Thanks for bringing up all this. It's quite annoying to see online how suddenly Fractal invented the sliced bread. Personal preference, but I'd take the T1 any day over the Terra.
Will you be reviewing the ultralight X?
any plans on reviewing the gwolves hsk plus or the pro?, really want ur opinion on it
Tbf most channels talking about the Terra probably don't even know the T1 so that's why they aren't mentioning it.
yo review the health tracker ring
It should be just a little bit bigger
the CPU cooling options are so limited
Cool case!
initially was looking at this review and thinking "ah , this could replace my NR200! (works fine, but wish i had a front panel USB-C which this lacks) - then the video came to the cooling options, and no 240mm rad (which i have now in the NR200) and aircooling only? Yeah no thanks :-( *sigh* The T1 is nice, but just way too expensive for me to import into West Europe (600 euro's) - as nice as the T1 is, for somebody that just uses a basic watercooling setup (i.E AIO, no custom loops) then that's too much money. If anybody knows an alternative to an NR200 that fits a 240mm rad and a 3080 i'd love to hear it.
Have you noticed any issues with the PCIe riser like with FD Ridge? Is it working out of the box in Gen4 compatibility?
How did you remove the backplate off of the asus b650i? I can’t figure it out
Glad to see you review this case and bring up the things you did, like coping T1 and build quality.
Fractal Terra or NR200P Max?
the biceps the hair
reason why nobody mention the T1 cuz its barely exist just like any other small run high price ITX cases that pretty much gone after the first run. this is why people are excited when known manufactured jumping into the scene cuz you can actually buy the bloody thing
Bingo
100% this. As much as i love the T1, it has almost no presence in the mainstream PC case industry today with practically all of its target audience being in the niche sffpc community.
Specialty cases have so few manufacturers either way. If you look at server chassis availability for some reason, you got like silverstone, in-win, and inter-tech as the ones with most models, because nobody else makes rack mount chassis for non-enterprise users.
You can buy the T1 V2 pretty easily lol what are you talking about. And the Terra is pretty damn expensive for how limited your cooling options are. The Terra is basically an enlarged Dan A4-SFX with the same cooling limitations (except with the Dan A4 V2 onwards you can do 120mm AIO with losercard mod, but no chance of that happening with the Terra).
@@RanenPo give me the link to buy one right now. No waiting, no preorder just buy now
If you can't buy the T1, it doesn't exist.
I agree with this. It’s not like I am getting free samples from Form T1. In. The end, does it work and do its job.
Exactly
The reason why your Blackridge didn’t fit the mb with just the AM5 short backplate is because there are two AM5 socket retention designs Asus seems to be using on their B650E-I mbs. Yours has extra material around the edges which blocks the black ridge brackets. The other socket style works perfectly with the Blackridge and AM5 short backplate - no need to remove the entire socket retention mechanism and only the M.2 heat sink needs to be removed
I ran into this problem on my B650E-I too, I gave up and returned the Black Ridge and bought an IS-47-XT which doesn't require any alteration to the board.
@@elchet Did your IS-47-XT fit without having to remove the M.2 heatsink?
You put exactly what I was thinking into words, it's a slightly worse t1, but it's also $100 cheaper... Very happy with my t1 and I can see this for someone who wants the t1 style build but doesn't want to pay the t1 premium and have the t1 wait times
50$
Slightly is crazy.
Significantly worse imo
Say t1 one more time
@@novakk86 *$100 if you want the latest version plus the nicer finer mesh side panels
@@dhkatz_ More than that even, if u live somewhere outside the US, as shipping to EU is a lot more expensive, gonna run well over 300 euro, while the Terra can be bought locally for 180 euro.
Kinda feel sad for the t1 makers not getting mentioned at all for all their innovation and totally ripped off
So many mainstream youtuber even LTT didnt mention it at all. I don’t get it. Do they all not know about it at all?
@@terencelim3860the knockoff company probably pays better.
@@terencelim3860 ltt does limited research on their videos most of the time unfortunately
Paid to omit the mention
@@terencelim3860he does mention the t1 at the beginning and even says that others dont mention the t1 case or am i missing something?
Price difference between T1 and Terra in europe is pretty intense due to import tax
They undervalue the T1 as its comes from
China
@@RathOXDoesn’t mean shipping is ridiculous expensive unfortunately
@@Definitely_Melnyx its $35 for me. Which is cheap, im from UK, unless you live in the 3rd world its pretty good.
@@RathOXnot going to pay 35 + 205 for the case if i can have the fractal for 200 including shipping
35 bucks shipping for me, no custom fee also
Unfortunately cases like the FormD T1 and Dan C4-SFX are not widely available like the Fractal is.
And the fractal is still hard to get.
completely agree, if those the T1 and C4 could actually be bought somewhere at
Feels like it's been so long since you've reviewed an itx case. That's the content that drew me to you in the first place and I love to see it.
No1 mentions the T1 bcos its hard af to get. I managed to get the terra 1 week after computex launch, here in singapore. Fractal's supply chain is just better. Not to mention its so much cheaper. My biggest issue with the case were that the stock sfx psu cables are just too long and uneasy to cable manage.
Yes they copied, but the T1 brand is just too niche, overpriced with plenty of 3rd party markup, and not readily available, in fact I tried clicking your T1 link, the store is not even online and you can't buy anything from them officially....
Formd T1: Unobtainable
Terra: Obtainable
end of story :/
They restock every Sunday. I've seen it in stock more than I have out of stock
You can buy the T1 easily
As much as i like the t1 the terra seems like my next sff case due to availability. Make sense no one talks about it if you can't get it.
I've seen the t1 in stock more than I've seen it out of stock. It gets restocked every Sunday
@@t7274 But it's stupidly expensive, and that's before their ridiculous shipping rates
@@Notorious544d One thing is availability, and another is accessibility
never heard of FormD before, not even available in Sweden, so for many builders the Terra is the only choice between those two.
The case actually in stock and easily acquirable versus the case that is more expensive and is rarely in stock.
Spot on review. I feel exactly the same about this case. From the adjustable spine not being original as some reviewers think, to the fact that the case is bigger than the T1, yet has worse compatibility (especially the 2 vs 1 fan, and the suffocating placement for that single fan). Case is good, but it needs work - there's a lot of potential here being thrown away.
I hate this new trend. It's exactly like the early 2000s GM and Fords, where they slapped wood in random places of the interior and called it luxury.
That wood piece ties into absolutely nothing and looks like an afterthought.
T1 problem is when you wish to buy it - there is no units to sell. And what should you do? Wait for case from 3 to infinity moths? No I just buy something I can right now.
the lighting in this video is immaculate
fr and its all natural
It was copied from the JM Customized Jimu D+. That was the first case to have the movable spine.
Damn! Good to know, never heard of JM Customised before. D+ and T1 look nearly identical.
T1 also isnt perfect.
Yeah but, aren't 90% of ATX cases all the same?
I like how you're playing with neutral colors, composition, lighting, and camera angles in this video
i get that you guys like "custom cables" but corsair makes their own pci to 12vhpwr cables that i really dont see any reason not to to buy..
Because Mod-DIY and Cablemod offers customizations on length and colours
So cool. I've definitely been inspired to go smaller with my next build. I remember looking at some of the cases from Dan and where I'm at here in the states these bespoke SFF cases seem to always be sold out, makes sense that higher build quality means less production volume. Incredible cinematography and attention to detail as always.
A calm, real-life true professional, who cares about details and not the show. It is soooo good to see that such people still exist! Thank you and please don't change! :)
what bothers me most is that it's pretty much an open case, lots of gaps and no filters.. at least it looks quite nice, wish there would be more cases with options for colours like that, the green and wood panel mix in particular is beautiful
I mean do you really need any dust filters at this point, the panel pops of tool less and you can just blow of the the dust every now and then, it’s not very time consuming.
Filters are easy to incorporate and always helpful.
@@MikaelKKarlssoni did think of that already, but how much space would it leave you with for the cpu cooler or gpu? and i mentioned the gaps because if you don't cover those up you might as well not bother adding filters. and idk if that would be practical with the mounting style of the side panels
@@kharak6204 It's like we have come full circle.
It's been so long people have dealt with computer dust, that they have forgotten just how dusty then can get after having filters for "forever".
@@CH1K3N99same people complain when their hardware starts to overheat. Take care of your stuff!
Idk what's with your videos but why do they look so clean 🥴 it's so satisfying to look at the video quality.
High bitrate recording and really great colour grading will do that for you and of course the lighting, scenes.
He creates his videos on Mac that's why they look better. PC is for plebs, Mac is for Pros.
@@bmwofboganville456 ???
@@bmwofboganville456 you smoking that nasty stuff bro hahahaha
@@bmwofboganville456 who is gonna tell him lmao
Feels like it's been forever since we saw an ITX case review by you.
I lug my PC around a lot and switched from an NCase M1 to a Terra instead of a T1 because of the jade color! I really hope this trend continues as purely utilitarian colors feel so drab. The pop of color and wooden accents are very appealing :)
Though it does not officially support this, the spacing of the vents on the side panels allows for fan and radiator installation and I built a dual 240 loop into it using the single 120 fan mount as exhaust similar to a Corsair One. It certainly isn't as versatile as a T1 but it's a small price to pay for the better looks.
That's really cool, 3D printed clips? Would like to see some pics or a short video as proof of concept for that. Would probably encourage people to experiment with the Terra, which I also find to be a fantastic SFF case.
Where/how in australia do you get the founders edition Nvidia Cards?
Amazing Video with truly outstanding quality. I can't wait until your next video!!! With love, - Siphoni
You are correct. It was quite surprising to me how none of the reviews for the Terra even acknowledge the existence of the Formd T1. Shows how little the mainstream case reviewers know about the ITX market.
Also, you're the only reviewer I've seen who put the bottom fan as exhaust, which is the most ideal setup. For whatever reason, everyone else just sets it as intake, which makes no sense considering the Terra has plenty of intake with no exhaust.
For whatever reason, the manual for the Terra shows installing the fan as intake🤷
@@MY-qi8wq The reason is pretty obvious - air when heated naturally goes up, so instead of fighting natural flow (which goes from bottom to up) it's better to help that flow by intaking (cooler air) at the bottom
Who cares, no one can even get that case.
Personally i want one because of the great green color and walnut wood. It looks amazing.
The side gaps make sense as theyre needed for those lambo doors
For me the Loque Ghost was first.
I want the Dan C4-Sfx so bad but it's not available in my country. Both T1 and Terra are available but they're too small for my liking.
What about the LianLi A4H20 ? might be close enough from the Dan C4 since they made it together as collab
@@Kahlimer0 Still too small. Dan C4 is just the right size for me.
Its because it wont come back its discontinued, he made 1 run of the case, v2 is coming out next year.
C4-V2 is coming out
Why did no one mention the T1? Because most tech-tubers don't known cases outside the basics, it's that simple.
i want itx case, with 2x usb2.0 and usb 3.0 & usb-c front panel connectors. i need one usb 2.0 with my headset and second usb 2.0 for my gamepad, one usb 3.0 with random use (typical usb-extented drive) and usb-c to chargin use.
I have created my own caseS from Wood pieces. It's light and smaller than all of this "small" cases. ❤
"How can someone mention this pretending that the other doesn't exist."
Weird, all of your videos pretend that only ngreedia makes gpus and AMD doesnt..so 🤷🏽♂️.
Anyways there's your chance to do something about it.
I dont know where you live but I think especially the US is very sensitive on coping industrial design, which = product value.
Cheapo products for endconsumers, yes.
But the developing company looses money and the copy will cut their sales on the original Product drastically.
Someone's had an open-box black Terra on fb marketplace near me for about a week for $120obo. If I watch any more YT videos, I'm going to end up owning it, despite just finishing my mid tower to ridge conversion..
Lack of fan mounts kills the terra for professional use.
Can you please list the 3D files from your FormD T1 build? You haven't updated the description with links
here T1 cost almost $400 because you only able to get it from reseller, and terra at $180 because they have official distributor
I prefer T1 but it's out of my reach
Thank you for reviewing this case. I am currently trying to decide what my next case will be. This helped significantly. Love your builds and content. Thanks.
case is overrated AF, 2 months later, and the dust stacked is as bad as open case. The grills cause a whiny metallic pitch when my fan ramped up to 2000rpm
I’ll stick to my Dan C4-SFX. Best case I’ve ever used.
well right now the T1 is like $185 and the terra goes from $150ish to $180ish, soo not much difference in price anymore
i built a 6950xt pc in the terra for my first build and jaysus it is impossible especially since it came with a broken front cable connector :(
1:20 well, i think the Terra brings some own stuff and looks. So for me it’s not a copycat, but simply similar looking.
Actually there is 120mm AIO support for the Terra. You can check in the Manual for the Terra.
at the cost of GPU space, if you add a 120 AIO you need a mini graphics card like the, Zotac GeForce GTX 1650 Super Twin Fan. which is great for 1080p gaming i guess.
@@cassildaandcarcosa294 The GPU doesn't need to be that small to fit the 120mm AIO. Them problem is more that a 120mm AIO is basically useless
Their other wood ATX, the white one, they really fxxcked it up with the black colors inside the ATX, only reason I did not buy it.
I don't want it. CPU cooling capabilities are terrible. NR200 for life.
Lookin jacked as usual 😘 Thanks for the thorough review and comparison as usual
What was your experience with the ASUS b650? Of all the ITX boards for AM5 it looks the most appealing to me but I hear mixed things
Blackmagic camera spotted, were you previously a cinematographer???
they never watch optimum tech if they said fractal invented the adjustable spine
Thing is, i never seen the formd t1 in stock.
Its been in stock for ages
Restocks every Sunday, literally just saw them instock