Jiří Procházka gets injured, gives up the belt so the division can move on. Jamahal Hill gets injured, gives up the belt so the division can move on. Jon Jones get injured, holds the belt hostage for more than a year so he can fight the ranked number 7 guy instead of the interim champion.... smells like bullshit to me. It's not the first time Jon Jones has ducked from a fight before. He ducked Chael Sonnen at UFC 151 because he was scared to fight a middleweight on 8 days notice while he was the light heavyweight champion... not what I'd call the greatest of all time.
Let me guess, when Aldo didn't want to rematch Conor on like 2 weeks notice, was he ducking Conor also ? I hate Jones but this fake narrative of ducking is getting ridiculous.
Yeah jj knows nothing about defending belts 🤣🤣🤣 it's actually cringy listening to you jj haters. Even bisping who is obviously routing for Tom gives his praise and understanding to jj situation. Grow up people.
He’s holding up the division and is coming off a 1.5 year layoff to fight a 42 year old that got knocked out in his last fight which was over 3 years ago. While ducking the interim champion.
The main issue with that is the UFC won't agree to that they want that fight to be a title fight if they wanted to strip Jones they would have already. Also why would Jon want to do that? the belt comes with ppv points aswell he would make substantial less money without the belt.
No one can argue jon is a legend, but the drugs, the steroids, the anctics, dirty tactics, somewhat soiled his legacy. Tom is not just a champ but his composure, love for the game, skill, outspoken attitude and humility, that's the real GOAT.
Jon should fight pereira after stipe, little tom can wait or keep fighting and earned it, stipe and pereira deserve the fight 10x more, this is the truth
Tom is not the real champion, thats like saying covington or porier were ever real champions Stipe has 5 real title wins at HW, Pereira is a double champion in GLORY and UFC. Real belts
Here is reality. Jon has never fought a heavyweight champion. He fought 1 contender and was given the belt. Then calls out an old guy past it coming off a loss. Jon is probably worst heavyweight champion ufc has ever had
Nobody is argueing Jones isnt a great fighter. However calling yourself the HW champ with 1 fight, while Tom has cleaned the division in less than 10 minutes combined, is just downright absurd.
You have a jaundiced view of things. Jones fought for that belt and won it, yea, so he is the HW champion. He didn't injure himself on Purpose, why not let him finish his already contracted fight. Then See what he will do next. You all assume Tom will beat him, why? MMA is not that predictable. The disrespect Jon Jones is getting is unnecessary
He fought for that belt nearly 4 years ago. In a sane world Jones would've vacated the belt after an injury, like Jiri and Hill did, and so many others, either willingly or by force. And then we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place, Tom would've been champion. Come on man, do you really think defending the belt once every 4 years is alright? While there is an interim champion fighting every few months smoking everyone. You can literally watch every Tom Aspinall fight ever and be done in about 10/15 minutes.
Stop lying, Jon Jones didn't fight for the belt four years ago. Exaggeration is a form of lying you know? Tom is not fighting every few months, he has only defended the interim belt once since he won it. What type of mess are you really in? Do you work for UFC? Stop exaggerating your importance. You all want Jones to fight Aspinal but have you considered if that is what Jones wants. You can stripe him of the belt and he will still fight Stipe and retire if that's what he wants. He wants to fight stipe first, after that anything can happen, you lots should respect that. He didn't commit any crime. It's all about choices.
@@kapiteinbadmuts5043 Tom should focus on fighting active fighters and there are many of them, not going after an old man Jones who has seen it all and done it all and wants to retire. If he fought Jones today he will not be fighting a prime Jones. And the way he is going about it is disgraceful. Jones said he wants to fight Stipe first, why not wait till that fight is over. He is going about tweeting and making videos like Jones owes him anything. It is not by force to fight someone.
Yeah, the Matt Hammil loss was messed up but he got gifted the Reyes win. The first Gus fight was close. Anthony Smith could have won after Jon kneed a downed opponent, but he chose to press on.
@@LearningWithSuj I watched the first Gus fight a few weeks ago for probably the 5th time...which can be view here on YT. He clearly beat Jones. It could be argued 4 rounds to 1. I think people have mostly forgotten that fight and only ever mention Reyes.
@@Abruzzo333 why do you lie? 4 rounds to 1? Thats just dishonest or blind, gus got so many elbows, head kick, flying knee You are a weakling bro, be honest
@@Xivinuxwhere they will find the 10 million ?? Do you have 10millions to give to Stipe ?? The answer is NO Jon will fight Stipe and retire. End of the story !!
@@Valpremier they've paid people before for not fighting. Stipe is only fighting for a last good PPV paycheck. Give him money, give the fans the fight we wanna see which is Jones vs Aspinal.
@@ssss22041you must be stupid how tf is 59 the same as 40. And Jon had 3 years off to "gain weight" all he did was get fat he looking how DC used to look in LHW
@@ssss22041 same logic as jones beating dc 🤣 jones 27 at the time and dc being 36, there is actually less age between Tom and jones. Stop trying to defend this guy 💀
@@charliegreen4785 You are missing the point entirely. You guys are attacking Jones for going after someone with an age gap from him, which is dumb. That is all I pointed out. I don't think Stipe is too old to fight and I certainly don't think Jones is too old to fight Tom. They all should fight, and you guys should stop using age gaps as excuses.
Not only Tom.... He kept playing the same game with Ngannou as well... Remember when Ngannou kept asking for the Jones fight for such a long period.....now we all know for sure; how, when and why Dana keeps backing his so called *"GOAT"* for absolute reason 😅 If Michael had got Ngannou to his podcast the truth would have definitely come up 😅🫴
It’s not ducking since we wasn’t supposed to fight Tom in the beginning and said he was going to retire after the fight with stipe I doubt he would want to change his mind
This is really easy. Firstly, you can’t describe Tom as a random. He is Heavyweight Champion and absolutely destroyed all of his opponents. The answer to Jon regarding how many more fights or belts he needs to win to prove he is the best - It can’t be questioned that he is the best Light Heavyweight of all time, but now he’s in the Heavyweight division so that is now irrelevant. Who did he beat to become Heavyweight Champ? How many times has he defended the Heavyweight title? Is his next scheduled fight in defence of the title against the number 1 contender? The answer to these three questions tells us all we need to know. He wants to defend the belt against someone he is confident he can beat so that he can claim that he defended the title against the statistically best heavyweight ever. Only problem with that is that that guy is now 43 and hasn’t fought in many years, so that claim would be disingenuous. Especially as there is an Interim Champ that is dominating the division like something we have never seen before in the whole history of the UFC. My opinion is that Jon could only legitimately call himself the undisputed Heavyweight Champ if he was to defend the belt against, and beat Tom Aspinall. He will retire before that though because the loss against Tom would tarnish his already questionable legacy.
Stipe also isn’t the best HW of all time imo. A win against a green Ngannou, a 41 year old DC and a 40 year old Werdum < all first round finishes against Pavlovich, Blaydes, Volkov, Spivac, Tybura. If he beats Jon and Gane he’s already easily the UFC HW GOAT.
Goat things 5:04…. What kind of goat mocks the interim champion when he’s fighting a 44 year old coming off a Ko loss? Is Jon legitimately broken in the head? Must be all them poppers ruining his brain tha gay legend 😂
the greatest pound for pound fighter according to the ufc is a 2 to 3 time steroid user?? are you sure they aren't saying he is the best pound for pound cheater??? if so.... I'D AGREE WITH THAT!
@seegee9 spot on. This is exactly what made me think this. That and the fact that when Jon got injured in the original date, did Stipe not refuse to fight Pavlovich who was the stand in?
Stipe and Jon are fighting for the detriment for the UFC. Imagine how much of a headache Stipe gave the UFC after he turned down Pavlovich who was the back up last year. They should be grateful to Tom who had an injury and was overweight but still took the short notice fight.
The ironic thing about Jon saying he is in a beautiful position not being defined by one fight: he is literally defined by a single fight at heavyweight against a guy who was terrified of him. GOAT shit is fighting the best man, not the man who was the best.
If, and thats a big IF, that fight is announced for MSG in November then just watch the ticket sales 😳😳 Ain't no-one interested in that fight as the main event. Dana better get some great fights for the undercard.
@@lemmy9996if Stipe vs Jon had an average undercard, it’s not selling more than 400k PPV buys. If Tom vs Jon had an average undercard, it does at least 850k PPV buys (if not more depending on the buildup).
This is the problem. UFC’s number one bs here risks losing the future (and present) of the division, the figurehead baddest man on the planet, by driving him to another organisation so he can fight Francis. Tom, like them all, wants to prove himself the very best. What the UFC has done here is decimate all credibility and legitimacy in their HW belt. What’s the point in Tom sticking around if he can fight Francis (for more money I expect) who is the only human with a realistic claim to be as much ‘the true champion’ as Tom is right now.
@@danseifert1981 does anyone know how many fights Tom has left on contract? Also Tom should turn in that belt, don’t do anymore photo shoots with it and deny even owning it.
What Jones typed on Twitter means nothing. If he wants to fight Stipe, fine, give up the Heavy Weight title and do your little exhibition fight and clear off, otherwise defend your title against the #1 contender in Aspinall. It's literally that simple.
There has to be a difference between an old inactive guy who hasn't fought in years, and the last fight was a knockout loss, and the actual interim champ
He can retire how he wants, but he should relinquish the belt if he doesn’t want to fight Tom. The Stipe fight makes no sense. It puts a stain on the UFC and makes it look like the WWE instead of a competitive sport.
Currently Tom Aspinall is closer to being the Greatest Heavyweight than Jon as he has more title defenses than Jon.... And I think the record at heavyweight is only 3 defenses.... So Tom is 33 percent closer to that and Jon has yet to defend his title in almost 2 years 😂
After the Stipe and Jones fight, if both of them retire, it would leave a significant void in the division. I’m not sure why Dana White would allow that to happen. On top of that, by praising Jones so highly, Dana is practically giving him more leverage in negotiations. I just hope they’re planning something bigger and better than a retirement match between two aging fighters.
No it's not. Jones had 1 fight in HW against guy that's mostly irrelevant doing French movies. Stipe got retired by Francis who left organization years ago. The division already has a new champ. I hate this situation, but these two are creating no voids by their disappearance. One could argue they both stopped being relevant years ago.
Not that anyone would miss them-respect to both for their careers-but by "void," I meant we'd be left with a new or former champ who retires right after winning. I hate that. Imagine if Tom Brady got injured-would they postpone the Super Bowl? Of course not! I know it’s a different business, but that's why I'd give a champ 365 days to defend their title. If not, strip them, with the option to fight for it when they return.
That would be so funny. I was thinking he could just say, jokes on you, I retired after Ngannu fight ! but he clearly needs the money. No other reason to put another loss on your resume while fans are being annoyed that you are blocking Tom vs Jon fight at the same time.
Jon’s is elite when it comes to MMA, picograms, lady beating, blow sniffing, boosing and crashing into prego ladies, hiding under cages to dodge USADA, and shooting while boosing
Jon doesn’t need to fight Tom to the ufc goat. But Jon does need to fight Tom if he wants to be the baddest man in the UFC, which is a distinction held by dominant heavyweights. A win against Ciryl and a win against 42 year old Stipe who hadn’t won in 4 years doesn’t obtain that title.
Jon already is the GOAT, and Aspinall is about 20 more title wins from being in that conversation. Tom needs Jon to take this fight because he's hoping to build his legacy through Jon. But Jon has seen guys like this throughout his UFC career, and he knows that these guys will never end. It's up to him to decide when he wants to retire. He has nothing left to prove.
Great comment, and you could be 100% correct, but alternative perspective… I took it as Michael trying overly hard to seem neutral (like we all don’t know who he would want to win… me fucking too!)
I really like how your able to see it from the point of view of both guys, and ultimately let people come to their own conclusion. Too many people are too one-sided in this whole ordeal.
The greatest martial artist of all time is Khabib Noormagomedov, the fighter that never lost a fight neither a round or even bled or got a scratch, that's the criteria to be the best for fighter ever.
Its rather smart from jones that he doesn't fight with tom why would he take risk with someone young and yet to grow his legacy but from our side as viewers we want an interesting fight.
@@TheLastCrumb. Yeah but Jones has already proven that he is the greatest with the records he has already fought so many champions whereas tom has just started his career. It would only be fair if tom would have won 2nd title like dc. Then only the stakes would be equal.
@juststudy9498 we are here, it is today. If jones is only interested in yesterday then he should retire. If he wants... today .. to claim he's the best he must fight Tom. It really is that simple.
WHY is the Belt being held Hostage for 2 inactive guy's that have admitted they will Both Retire after their fight? Wtf? Tom Aspinall is King of HW. Jon has done jack sh*t at HW.
Jon Jones I'm gonna wait on a guy who hasn't fought in 3 n a half years, and has only beat one person in the last 6 years. Don't buy bispings bs on this, no if ands or buts, Jon Jones is TERRIFIED of Aspinall
I heard. Jones raw dogged dana when he was called sexual chocolate 🍫 and now he's threatening to release the tape if dana doesn't match him with stipe.. plus it's an easy marketing ploy for the ufc to say here lool this is our goat.. when really we all know it was mighty mouse
“I ain’t fighting more randoms!” The random in question: an undefeated freak of nature who has not only never even made it out of the first round but is obligated to be the next man to fight for the title because he is LITERALLY INTERIM CHAMPION.
Jon Jones has as many title defenses as Aspinall has fights in the UFC. Aspinall has 3 losses, Jones has zero. From Jones' perspective, Aspinall frankly is a nobody. More importantly, Dana clearly hasn't even offered him a fight yet, so why should Jones entertain hypotheticals. If Dana makes him the right offer, Jones will fight Aspinall.
Gane was the easiest possible fight for Jones in the heavy weight division. Stipe in his prime (remember his strength, his skills, his fight IQ) would most likely finish Jones on a good day or win by unanimous decision on a bad day. Jon will never go down in history as a true heavy weight champion if he doesn't win against a) someone who is in his prime, b) someone who is a well-rounded fighter. That guy is Tom.
Very thoughtful and truthful video. Well articulated Michael, hopefully it puts things into perspective for some. Lets face it, even if John wants to walk away undefeated so doesn't want to take the risk of fighting Tom, he has earned that many times over and owes nobody a damn thing
I see both sides of this situation I love Tom and jones so I would be a fat kid in a candy shop if that fight happens but at some point I think Anthony is right, when is the time to call it for Jon there will always be another guy to beat. And let’s face it he’s getting old he’s been in wars for years now. I’ve been watching jones since I was about 9 years old
All I’m gonna say is jones isn’t an undisputed champ. Absolutely literally and figuratively is not. There’s a ic belt out there that has been defended. Undisputed doesn’t mean you have the “real” title it means you have the only belt in the promotion and division. It’s not an undisputed belt. Jones fans will cry but jones doesn’t have a lineal heavyweight belt or an undisputed belt at 265 😂.
Everyone is the comments are a clown. Jones would destroy aspinal the division is weak rigth now. Jones is right aspinal is no big name he defended the belt 1 time. Why would jones want to fight aspinal who really has not proven anything. If jones fought and beat him when he retires no one gonna say omg jones is so good he beat aspinal. He is no big name and has done nothing really to earn a fignt with the goat. Aspinal is talking mess because he wants a big pay day fight. The heavyweight division is washed right now its just a revolving door of good fighters not any 1 great fighter
Tom used to be a bit stiff as an actor in the beginning. Thats a good thing, though. It means he's not fake. -but now he seems like he's relaxed right into it. That video he uploaded was genuinely good craic 😅 it was like a proper comedy sketch
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Do you think Jones and Tom will ever fight?
If jon stops ducking yea
They should, after Tom's recent performances a fight with Jones is bigger than Jones v Stipe
Do you think novitski will ever be honest about those failed tests?
Question should be will he get to fight Stipe before something Bizaar happens before the fight.
No, Jones is afraid of risking his sketchy legacy. Jones don't want that smoke.
Jiří Procházka gets injured, gives up the belt so the division can move on. Jamahal Hill gets injured, gives up the belt so the division can move on. Jon Jones get injured, holds the belt hostage for more than a year so he can fight the ranked number 7 guy instead of the interim champion.... smells like bullshit to me. It's not the first time Jon Jones has ducked from a fight before. He ducked Chael Sonnen at UFC 151 because he was scared to fight a middleweight on 8 days notice while he was the light heavyweight champion... not what I'd call the greatest of all time.
Well said bud 👍
No one aside from Jones meat riders thinks he’s the actual Goat
He ducked Francis also and for 2 years.
Let me guess, when Aldo didn't want to rematch Conor on like 2 weeks notice, was he ducking Conor also ? I hate Jones but this fake narrative of ducking is getting ridiculous.
Don't forget the amount of PED abuse, been popped more times than any other fighter
Q. Who has the most pointless job in the UFC. A. The man who has to bring the stool to the octagon for Tom Aspinall to use between rounds
That is straight up gangster.
I thought he answer was danna 😂
Or the man who prints off the scorecards for the judges to use !!!
You do have a point lol 😅
But this is Jon Jones.
Brilliant 😂
"Undisputed" doesn't ring true when there's an interim champ with more title defenses than the actual champ
I Remember Jon once said to Ngannou, "you aren't the champ until you have defended the belt"
The irony...
Yeah jj knows nothing about defending belts 🤣🤣🤣 it's actually cringy listening to you jj haters. Even bisping who is obviously routing for Tom gives his praise and understanding to jj situation. Grow up people.
JJ has been a champ since he was 23 fam and he's NEVER lost! WTF are you on about??
@@rremongwe it's crazy 🤣🤣 people just hate someone so much they cannot see the facts and they don't make sense
@@viper2kilo519 stipe is worth more than curtis blades or tom
He’s holding up the division and is coming off a 1.5 year layoff to fight a 42 year old that got knocked out in his last fight which was over 3 years ago. While ducking the interim champion.
Use your brain please
Jones sure has a lot of different ways to say, that he's scared of Aspinall.
It's Tom and Jerry at this point 😆
Tom and Jonny
Tom and PEDdy
Tom is michael chandler now
Conor is a money fight, this isn't about that is it @@fgc1850
Best comment
Jones is more active on X then he is in the HW division
not hard hes only been in the ring for a couple mins in HW...this says it all
😂
Tom has been constantly crying on twitter for over a year, he is literally michael chandler
@@fgc1850Tom actually fights..
@@lukepeeters5178Tom has only been in the ring a few minutes at HW too…😂
Simple. vacate the belt, fight stipe, retire. He’s holding the belt hostage with an obvious no1 contender waiting, that’s the issue.
No. The belt will be vacant after Jones Stipe fight.
@@ValpremierJJ simp.
@@ducko1988JJ hater
The main issue with that is the UFC won't agree to that they want that fight to be a title fight if they wanted to strip Jones they would have already. Also why would Jon want to do that? the belt comes with ppv points aswell he would make substantial less money without the belt.
@@shmazy86Thank u!! people there are completely ignorants.
Jones's legacy in this division is a win over Cyril Gane. one fight sorry but we need to swap the belts around. Tom is
No one can argue jon is a legend, but the drugs, the steroids, the anctics, dirty tactics, somewhat soiled his legacy. Tom is not just a champ but his composure, love for the game, skill, outspoken attitude and humility, that's the real GOAT.
add ducking fighters to that list, wife.beating, losing to reyes ...
Jon should fight pereira after stipe, little tom can wait or keep fighting and earned it, stipe and pereira deserve the fight 10x more, this is the truth
Tom is not the real champion, thats like saying covington or porier were ever real champions
Stipe has 5 real title wins at HW, Pereira is a double champion in GLORY and UFC. Real belts
I agree on Jon. He is a great fighter. I just can't respect the guy at all. Everytime i say this people blast me. I just don't like the guy
@@jeremyp5210 doesnt matter if you like him or you like dustin porier or you like covington, literally doesnt matter
Here is reality. Jon has never fought a heavyweight champion. He fought 1 contender and was given the belt. Then calls out an old guy past it coming off a loss. Jon is probably worst heavyweight champion ufc has ever had
Jones is best at one thing tho really!!..... I have never seen any fighter get away with so many eye pokes in the UFC...
Cyril Gane was basically the interim champ
Well said he should of stayed at LHW he wont have it his own way against Tom
Nobody is argueing Jones isnt a great fighter. However calling yourself the HW champ with 1 fight, while Tom has cleaned the division in less than 10 minutes combined, is just downright absurd.
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You have a jaundiced view of things. Jones fought for that belt and won it, yea, so he is the HW champion.
He didn't injure himself on Purpose, why not let him finish his already contracted fight. Then See what he will do next. You all assume Tom will beat him, why? MMA is not that predictable. The disrespect Jon Jones is getting is unnecessary
He fought for that belt nearly 4 years ago. In a sane world Jones would've vacated the belt after an injury, like Jiri and Hill did, and so many others, either willingly or by force. And then we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place, Tom would've been champion.
Come on man, do you really think defending the belt once every 4 years is alright? While there is an interim champion fighting every few months smoking everyone.
You can literally watch every Tom Aspinall fight ever and be done in about 10/15 minutes.
Stop lying, Jon Jones didn't fight for the belt four years ago. Exaggeration is a form of lying you know? Tom is not fighting every few months, he has only defended the interim belt once since he won it.
What type of mess are you really in? Do you work for UFC? Stop exaggerating your importance.
You all want Jones to fight Aspinal but have you considered if that is what Jones wants. You can stripe him of the belt and he will still fight Stipe and retire if that's what he wants.
He wants to fight stipe first, after that anything can happen, you lots should respect that. He didn't commit any crime. It's all about choices.
@@kapiteinbadmuts5043 Tom should focus on fighting active fighters and there are many of them, not going after an old man Jones who has seen it all and done it all and wants to retire.
If he fought Jones today he will not be fighting a prime Jones. And the way he is going about it is disgraceful. Jones said he wants to fight Stipe first, why not wait till that fight is over. He is going about tweeting and making videos like Jones owes him anything. It is not by force to fight someone.
USADA and Reyes both beat Jones tbf...
Yeah, the Matt Hammil loss was messed up but he got gifted the Reyes win.
The first Gus fight was close.
Anthony Smith could have won after Jon kneed a downed opponent, but he chose to press on.
@@LearningWithSuj I watched the first Gus fight a few weeks ago for probably the 5th time...which can be view here on YT. He clearly beat Jones. It could be argued 4 rounds to 1. I think people have mostly forgotten that fight and only ever mention Reyes.
Reyes running away in agony lol
@@Abruzzo333 why do you lie? 4 rounds to 1? Thats just dishonest or blind, gus got so many elbows, head kick, flying knee
You are a weakling bro, be honest
Silly old Dana has promised Jon 10m for a fight no one cares about 😂
EXACTLY
I hope they give stipe 10 million NOT to fight jones and give the shot to Aspinall.
@@Xivinuxwhere they will find the 10 million ?? Do you have 10millions to give to Stipe ?? The answer is NO
Jon will fight Stipe and retire. End of the story !!
@@Valpremier they've paid people before for not fighting. Stipe is only fighting for a last good PPV paycheck. Give him money, give the fans the fight we wanna see which is Jones vs Aspinal.
@@Valpremier also UFC makes 100s of millions of dollars every year, they can afford to give stipe 10 million easily
Jon knows that he would lose. He wants to retire undefeated.
He has a loss though... plus he should have another loss to Reyes 🤷🏻♂️
Fair enough really, he's set and had a massive reign. Bigger than anyone. Noone has a prime range in history like Jones
he lost to dominick reyes already
You're under estimating the goat son🤷
I thought Jones lost to Reyes too.... Until I watched the fight back... Then I realised I was wrong! Jon won 3-2 😏fact
Beating Stipe at 45 is like beating Mike Tyson at 59.
Same logic, with beating a 40 year old Jones for Tom is like beating a Mike Tyson at 59. Goes both ways bud
@@ssss22041you must be stupid how tf is 59 the same as 40. And Jon had 3 years off to "gain weight" all he did was get fat he looking how DC used to look in LHW
@@ssss22041 jones is 37 which is younger than what dc was when jones fought him
@@ssss22041 same logic as jones beating dc 🤣 jones 27 at the time and dc being 36, there is actually less age between Tom and jones. Stop trying to defend this guy 💀
@@charliegreen4785 You are missing the point entirely. You guys are attacking Jones for going after someone with an age gap from him, which is dumb. That is all I pointed out. I don't think Stipe is too old to fight and I certainly don't think Jones is too old to fight Tom. They all should fight, and you guys should stop using age gaps as excuses.
Michael, if he isn't ducking...why hasn't Jon Jones EVER said he will fight Tom?
Because the goat doesn't need to call people out, he's the one who people call out. That being said he needs to fight tom for legacy
Not only Tom.... He kept playing the same game with Ngannou as well... Remember when Ngannou kept asking for the Jones fight for such a long period.....now we all know for sure; how, when and why Dana keeps backing his so called *"GOAT"* for absolute reason 😅
If Michael had got Ngannou to his podcast the truth would have definitely come up 😅🫴
It’s not ducking since we wasn’t supposed to fight Tom in the beginning and said he was going to retire after the fight with stipe I doubt he would want to change his mind
@mikesouthwell3627 he called out the retired fireman... try again
@@mikesouthwell3627 He's got the heavyweight belt after ducking ngannou and now wants to duck the no1. He's ducked 2 no1s in a row, impressive
This is really easy. Firstly, you can’t describe Tom as a random. He is Heavyweight Champion and absolutely destroyed all of his opponents. The answer to Jon regarding how many more fights or belts he needs to win to prove he is the best - It can’t be questioned that he is the best Light Heavyweight of all time, but now he’s in the Heavyweight division so that is now irrelevant. Who did he beat to become Heavyweight Champ? How many times has he defended the Heavyweight title? Is his next scheduled fight in defence of the title against the number 1 contender? The answer to these three questions tells us all we need to know. He wants to defend the belt against someone he is confident he can beat so that he can claim that he defended the title against the statistically best heavyweight ever. Only problem with that is that that guy is now 43 and hasn’t fought in many years, so that claim would be disingenuous. Especially as there is an Interim Champ that is dominating the division like something we have never seen before in the whole history of the UFC. My opinion is that Jon could only legitimately call himself the undisputed Heavyweight Champ if he was to defend the belt against, and beat Tom Aspinall. He will retire before that though because the loss against Tom would tarnish his already questionable legacy.
Stipe also isn’t the best HW of all time imo. A win against a green Ngannou, a 41 year old DC and a 40 year old Werdum < all first round finishes against Pavlovich, Blaydes, Volkov, Spivac, Tybura. If he beats Jon and Gane he’s already easily the UFC HW GOAT.
Goat things 5:04…. What kind of goat mocks the interim champion when he’s fighting a 44 year old coming off a Ko loss? Is Jon legitimately broken in the head? Must be all them poppers ruining his brain tha gay legend 😂
Sorry mate but Jon is definitely ducking Tom.
the greatest pound for pound fighter according to the ufc is a 2 to 3 time steroid user?? are you sure they aren't saying he is the best pound for pound cheater??? if so.... I'D AGREE WITH THAT!
Steroids are great
Exactly!! And lb for lb best ever is Mighty Mouse Johnson. Its not even close.
@@jmangames5562 dj would get ko by fucking topuria, just shut up
I don't know why anyone hasn't mentioned that if someone pulls out of this fight, that Stipe or Jones will refuse the replacement fight with Tom.
Yup. And Jon has done it before.he refused to fight chael as a short notice replacement and basically ruined a whole card
@seegee9 spot on. This is exactly what made me think this. That and the fact that when Jon got injured in the original date, did Stipe not refuse to fight Pavlovich who was the stand in?
Stipe and Jon are fighting for the detriment for the UFC. Imagine how much of a headache Stipe gave the UFC after he turned down Pavlovich who was the back up last year. They should be grateful to Tom who had an injury and was overweight but still took the short notice fight.
Because tom is a nobody bro
@@fgc1850 Jon Jones fan detected, opinion rejected
"Tom Aspinall was never my friend" - Mike bisping
Bisping is on Aspinall dixk hard. Weird, Michael is a far more accomplished and bigger fighter in mma history than Tom is as of right now
@@ManriqueSolera80he’s a fellow countryman and friend and Tom is achieving so much. Tom has it all.
@@Mikehowarth1988 Not really, his ground game hasn't really been tested yet but I get your point.
@@ManriqueSolera80 they're friends, u should try it sometime
@@ManriqueSolera80 His ground game may not have been tested, but hes a legit BJJ black belt, not just a "MMA black belt". His ground game is AMAZING.
The ironic thing about Jon saying he is in a beautiful position not being defined by one fight: he is literally defined by a single fight at heavyweight against a guy who was terrified of him. GOAT shit is fighting the best man, not the man who was the best.
Tom looking in the wrong place for Jon. Clue: he's under the octagon....
or in the closet
Bisping which side are you on man 😂😂 you are confusing me for a long time now man ......
lol
First video he is not biased af for the uk bros
Michael -
No one cares about Jones vs Stipe.
Does anyone actually want to see the Jones verses Stipe fight? I see no excitement whatsoever for that fight lol
If, and thats a big IF, that fight is announced for MSG in November then just watch the ticket sales 😳😳 Ain't no-one interested in that fight as the main event. Dana better get some great fights for the undercard.
literally nobody
@@lemmy9996if Stipe vs Jon had an average undercard, it’s not selling more than 400k PPV buys. If Tom vs Jon had an average undercard, it does at least 850k PPV buys (if not more depending on the buildup).
NO
Nobody
Tom could smoke stipe and bones on same night 💯💪😎
no he wouldnt...calm down casual
Stipe would because he is so old. Jon is hard to predict but looking at Tom’s record it’s likely
LOL I think either of those guys would beat Tom right now. Even though Stipe is in his 40's, I think he'd beat Tom.
@@Abruzzo333 delusional
7:18 "how many times do i have to break my own rehab streak"
Dana won't let Aspinall fight Jones.
Just like he wouldn't let Francis fight Jones.
Seems to me that Dana is protecting Jones
Prove there's a good reason to hold the heavyweight strap hostage. U fight aspinall. For legitimacy.
i know its a long shot but tom should say screw jones and go after the last real heavyweight champ. thats right francis
Thats a fair point mate
I would love to see that fight.
This is the problem. UFC’s number one bs here risks losing the future (and present) of the division, the figurehead baddest man on the planet, by driving him to another organisation so he can fight Francis. Tom, like them all, wants to prove himself the very best. What the UFC has done here is decimate all credibility and legitimacy in their HW belt. What’s the point in Tom sticking around if he can fight Francis (for more money I expect) who is the only human with a realistic claim to be as much ‘the true champion’ as Tom is right now.
Tom should leave UFC and go to PFL for that fight again Francis. Punishment to Dana for withholding the belt from him. Great point
@@danseifert1981 does anyone know how many fights Tom has left on contract? Also Tom should turn in that belt, don’t do anymore photo shoots with it and deny even owning it.
It will hurt jones's legacy more if he doesn't fight him
How many 1st rnd finishes does Jones have compared to Tom? Aspinal finishes Jones in the 1st
How many 5rd title defenses does tom have john has been in 5rd title fights for over a decade please let that sink in
@markmartin4793 at lw? None, because tom was fighting in the right league without peds
What Jones typed on Twitter means nothing. If he wants to fight Stipe, fine, give up the Heavy Weight title and do your little exhibition fight and clear off, otherwise defend your title against the #1 contender in Aspinall. It's literally that simple.
There has to be a difference between an old inactive guy who hasn't fought in years, and the last fight was a knockout loss, and the actual interim champ
Wouldn't be hilarious if Stipe drops out last minute on purpose just to force Jones into the fight with Tom or publicly pussy out.
What I think is that Jones don't need Aspinall fight.
The problem is that the reward for beating tom is zero, is just a waste of a ppv
@@fgc1850 Exactly what I think. Jones win nothing if he beat Tom.
It's the public who wants to see Jones lose.
He can retire how he wants, but he should relinquish the belt if he doesn’t want to fight Tom. The Stipe fight makes no sense. It puts a stain on the UFC and makes it look like the WWE instead of a competitive sport.
Currently Tom Aspinall is closer to being the Greatest Heavyweight than Jon as he has more title defenses than Jon.... And I think the record at heavyweight is only 3 defenses.... So Tom is 33 percent closer to that and Jon has yet to defend his title in almost 2 years 😂
After the Stipe and Jones fight, if both of them retire, it would leave a significant void in the division. I’m not sure why Dana White would allow that to happen. On top of that, by praising Jones so highly, Dana is practically giving him more leverage in negotiations. I just hope they’re planning something bigger and better than a retirement match between two aging fighters.
No it's not. Jones had 1 fight in HW against guy that's mostly irrelevant doing French movies. Stipe got retired by Francis who left organization years ago. The division already has a new champ. I hate this situation, but these two are creating no voids by their disappearance. One could argue they both stopped being relevant years ago.
Not that anyone would miss them-respect to both for their careers-but by "void," I meant we'd be left with a new or former champ who retires right after winning. I hate that. Imagine if Tom Brady got injured-would they postpone the Super Bowl? Of course not! I know it’s a different business, but that's why I'd give a champ 365 days to defend their title. If not, strip them, with the option to fight for it when they return.
Dana understands when it comes legacy AND ppv, tom is a nobody compared to jon or stipe or alex pereira
Also… “undisputed”? You sure? Sounds pretty heavily disputed to me..
If stipe was the real badass we thought he was. He would refuse to fight anyone but Tom
That would be so funny. I was thinking he could just say, jokes on you, I retired after Ngannu fight ! but he clearly needs the money. No other reason to put another loss on your resume while fans are being annoyed that you are blocking Tom vs Jon fight at the same time.
A win over tom is worthless to someone like jon or stipe or even pereira
I love how quiet Stipe has been throughout all of this. Would like to see him beat Jones
Anyone who knows rugby,knows this dudes a tank,a rugby tackle is jus a double or single leg take down
G.o.a.t ... 😳. No. He's a cheat.
Jones is not the goat, has DQ loss, lost to Reyes and Santos, ducks Tom
Reyes basically beat Jones, Tom would kill him. He knows it, we know it, everyone knows it. Beating Stipe literally means nothing, nobody cares.
I'll retire him without fighting him. Should be the title.
Jon’s is elite when it comes to MMA, picograms, lady beating, blow sniffing, boosing and crashing into prego ladies, hiding under cages to dodge USADA, and shooting while boosing
He has to box Jake Paul when he retires 🤣 🤣 🤣
😂quality Tom funny asf
Jon doesn’t need to fight Tom to the ufc goat. But Jon does need to fight Tom if he wants to be the baddest man in the UFC, which is a distinction held by dominant heavyweights. A win against Ciryl and a win against 42 year old Stipe who hadn’t won in 4 years doesn’t obtain that title.
Jon already is the GOAT, and Aspinall is about 20 more title wins from being in that conversation. Tom needs Jon to take this fight because he's hoping to build his legacy through Jon. But Jon has seen guys like this throughout his UFC career, and he knows that these guys will never end. It's up to him to decide when he wants to retire. He has nothing left to prove.
3:47 company man shilling right here😂
Great comment, and you could be 100% correct, but alternative perspective… I took it as Michael trying overly hard to seem neutral (like we all don’t know who he would want to win… me fucking too!)
I really like how your able to see it from the point of view of both guys, and ultimately let people come to their own conclusion. Too many people are too one-sided in this whole ordeal.
Jon Jones is 100% ducking him
The greatest martial artist of all time is Khabib Noormagomedov, the fighter that never lost a fight neither a round or even bled or got a scratch, that's the criteria to be the best for fighter ever.
He's a good wrestler, but he's only decent in martial arts. The majority of his wins were through his strong ground game.
@@silver_rocket_25
You clearly don't know what means fighting and dominating in fights.
Its rather smart from jones that he doesn't fight with tom why would he take risk with someone young and yet to grow his legacy but from our side as viewers we want an interesting fight.
Because the idea is to find out who is the best. If jj isn't willing to do that then he doesn't belong in ufc
@@TheLastCrumb. Yeah but Jones has already proven that he is the greatest with the records he has already fought so many champions whereas tom has just started his career. It would only be fair if tom would have won 2nd title like dc. Then only the stakes would be equal.
@juststudy9498 we are here, it is today. If jones is only interested in yesterday then he should retire. If he wants... today .. to claim he's the best he must fight Tom. It really is that simple.
Jon Jones doesn't want to risk that against Tom now We have to see this shit fight of Jones/Stippe lol
Tom aspinall 🎉
Thanks for the video, Michael Bisping
Tom’s going to mess around and get what he wants
Curtis Blades is not a top contender , lets see Tom actually beat a top guy like Gane before disrespecting the Goat.
I like how we all are counting stipe out.
Hes getting older by the minute, imo.
Hey Jon, Bock, Bock, Bock 🐔🐔🐔. Says Tom A.
Jones v Stipe was barely interesting a year ago. Now, it's even less interesting.
WHY is the Belt being held Hostage for 2 inactive guy's that have admitted they will Both Retire after their fight? Wtf? Tom Aspinall is King of HW. Jon has done jack sh*t at HW.
That was a funny vid by Tom, loved when he slid under the massage table! 😂
Stipe is 42 and hasn't fought in over 3 year. It's ridiculous.
Love the way bispin puts things and it does really make sense
Jon Jones I'm gonna wait on a guy who hasn't fought in 3 n a half years, and has only beat one person in the last 6 years. Don't buy bispings bs on this, no if ands or buts, Jon Jones is TERRIFIED of Aspinall
I heard. Jones raw dogged dana when he was called sexual chocolate 🍫 and now he's threatening to release the tape if dana doesn't match him with stipe.. plus it's an easy marketing ploy for the ufc to say here lool this is our goat.. when really we all know it was mighty mouse
5:20 Concieve, believe, achieve 👊
Hahaha love the suggested friends on your twitter ....Dan Henderson 😂😂😂
Never underestimate bones jones , he is on another level and we know it.
“I ain’t fighting more randoms!”
The random in question: an undefeated freak of nature who has not only never even made it out of the first round but is obligated to be the next man to fight for the title because he is LITERALLY INTERIM CHAMPION.
Jon Jones has as many title defenses as Aspinall has fights in the UFC. Aspinall has 3 losses, Jones has zero. From Jones' perspective, Aspinall frankly is a nobody. More importantly, Dana clearly hasn't even offered him a fight yet, so why should Jones entertain hypotheticals. If Dana makes him the right offer, Jones will fight Aspinall.
Gane was the easiest possible fight for Jones in the heavy weight division. Stipe in his prime (remember his strength, his skills, his fight IQ) would most likely finish Jones on a good day or win by unanimous decision on a bad day. Jon will never go down in history as a true heavy weight champion if he doesn't win against a) someone who is in his prime, b) someone who is a well-rounded fighter. That guy is Tom.
Ig interm champ is a random is jones brain dead ?
He doesn't fight enough to be relevant
Hats off to Aspinall. Great British humor with a twist of truth
Third time you have posted this since Mondays live stream
Watch the video before commenting lad.
@@ddandymann same topic different words
Well said at the end Mike!
Even heller keller can see jones is ducking Tom
That video is comedy gold!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Dana, are you being held hostage? Blink twice for No, blink three times for Yes 🙄🙄
Very thoughtful and truthful video. Well articulated Michael, hopefully it puts things into perspective for some. Lets face it, even if John wants to walk away undefeated so doesn't want to take the risk of fighting Tom, he has earned that many times over and owes nobody a damn thing
Well he needs to vacate the belt then
A known cheater can not be p4p goat
I see both sides of this situation I love Tom and jones so I would be a fat kid in a candy shop if that fight happens but at some point I think Anthony is right, when is the time to call it for Jon there will always be another guy to beat. And let’s face it he’s getting old he’s been in wars for years now. I’ve been watching jones since I was about 9 years old
People are forgetting that Stipe is gonna destroy Jones.
No he won't Stipe is washed
@@kevin084life a hater like you would never know
6:41 right of the screen "you might like..." First account ... Dan Henderson 😅😂
I WaS GoInG To PoInT tHis OuT 😂😂🤬🤬🤣
Puts petrol on his knuckles but won’t swim without goggles😂😂
All I’m gonna say is jones isn’t an undisputed champ. Absolutely literally and figuratively is not. There’s a ic belt out there that has been defended. Undisputed doesn’t mean you have the “real” title it means you have the only belt in the promotion and division. It’s not an undisputed belt. Jones fans will cry but jones doesn’t have a lineal heavyweight belt or an undisputed belt at 265 😂.
LOL
Yes…!!
That video is awesome 😂😂
Have to say, you summed it up very well there.
To be fair though, rugby players do train a lot of wrestling and they don't want to hurt each other either.
Jon really is the ice queen he rules narnia from inside that closet
Elite tier comment
Everyone is the comments are a clown. Jones would destroy aspinal the division is weak rigth now. Jones is right aspinal is no big name he defended the belt 1 time. Why would jones want to fight aspinal who really has not proven anything. If jones fought and beat him when he retires no one gonna say omg jones is so good he beat aspinal. He is no big name and has done nothing really to earn a fignt with the goat. Aspinal is talking mess because he wants a big pay day fight. The heavyweight division is washed right now its just a revolving door of good fighters not any 1 great fighter
Tom used to be a bit stiff as an actor in the beginning. Thats a good thing, though. It means he's not fake.
-but now he seems like he's relaxed right into it. That video he uploaded was genuinely good craic 😅 it was like a proper comedy sketch
How is someone the "undisputed" champion when there's an interim belt holder? It is LITERALLY an oxymoron.