Nobody was criticizing HVL for transferring.. the problem was she tried to jump on the LSU wave when it was never going to be a good fit from a basketball standpoint.
I think you are correct, but its understandable how she was led to make that mistake to elevate her WNBA potential. There were probably a lot of respectable, knowledgeable people telling her she could do it. Also, she put in the effort to make it work though obviously it wasn't enough.
Far from some simple college student finding her way! Her dad has been directing her "career" since grade school, planning every move to make the WNBA...
According to Coach Mulkey, Pro Scouts wanted to see her game at the point guard position because they think in the pros, she would interchange between both positions. Her conversion to a PG would have been smoother if she had known the Mulkey system then, she would have just been learning a new position. She thought it better to go to a high visible program with a lot of pro prospects like a mini pro team she spoke of. LSU girls play a more creative playground style. I think her game is more open shooter suburban style IMO. I blame Mulkey because she should have converted her back to a shooter.
Mulky is the one who needs to be a better coach for sure. Mulky abused her in that last game,had no plan . She had to run team as point guard and defend the best player in the game. Mylky sold her out cuz mulky is overrated as far as I'm concerned.
Agree, Murky🤡 saw HVL as what nobody else saw, HVL as the greatest defender in dah history of women’s college BB and there’s nothing like dah best against dah best! 🤡x2, 🤦♂️🙅♂️I hole❤️edly agree, HLV needs to get out of Murky’s LSU!
I'm happy to hear HVL is transferring again. She was hung out to dry by Mulken. She doesn't need to go pro, she just needs a school that will utilize her skills.
She is a not a very well round player she needs to go somewhere that can enhance her skillset in the right position because she looks confused in the current position at LSU you have to hone in on a persons skills first then gradually expose them to more, she might need to stay at LSU however that's just my opinion ? I only know Manufacturing/Operation, Employee tatics not sport!!!
@@1.culturechanger Who decides whether she is at a higher level? The coach! Mulkey didn't do her due diligence and failed, possibly on purpose to get HVL back for another year. Mulkey was wrong both times.
@@hood_TheJokerfirst thing HVL should do is NOT shoot from her shoulder. Her shot is not consistent. She needs to raise her release point to the eyebrow, forehead or even better, above the head release. When she shoots her left elbow should be ABOVE the ear, NOT at the shoulder level! She has no backspin on her shot at times and NO arc.
@@marcusb.3038 have you watched her since high school?... if so you would know that she is a winner and this was a tough year.. she would be fine at Iowa..stop hatin' my boy
@@hood_TheJoker I remember Kobe going to her high school and doing drills with her. She’s a very good player. Her and Cameron Brink won the fiba 3x3 gold medal last year. That being said, she’s not ready for the “W”!
Iowa desperately needs guards since they are losing Caitlin Clark, Molly Davis, Kate Martin, and Gabbie Marshall so it makes a ton of sense. Louisville would also be interesting, but I don't know if a player has ever transferred away from a school and returned a year later? That would be odd.
I don’t know if anyone has done it one year but Meechie Johnson is going back to Ohio State after playing only two years at South Carolina. I don’t think going back to Louisville would be right for her tho.
The question is "Why is she leaving LSU?" Did LSU/Mulkey lose confidence in HVL or did HVL lose confidence in LSU having a shot at the championship next year?
I'm curious to know - What is the deadline for the transfer portal? Is there a certain date by which someone must commit to their new team? How long to players get to decide where they will transfer to? Could you clear that up for me? Thanks.
LSU is getting the top player in Louisiana which is a point guard. Usually when they get that kind of player, it's Seimone Augustus, Mikaylah Williams, etc. So LSU will be fine. They just need reliable depth and they're right back knocking on the title door. And Hailey's not dumb. She knows she's not the best defender. She also knew putting her on Caitlin was basically Kim Mulkey not caring about winning that game & hanging her out to dry.
I highly doubt Bluder would take her. She is very picky about her players. They didn't call them milk and cookies for nothing. That is why I like Iowa.
Perceptive of you to mention that envy is behind at least some of the malice toward her. She is good looking and talented- many people are not both and that makes her a target. Now, that being said, there is something petulant about her and she really needs to express herself better.
At the beginning of the year, I said that Makila should have been groomed to take over the point guard. But Mulkey seemed determined to cater to HVL, maybe because of a past relationship when she was recruited by her out of high school. When HVL first evaluated where to go to college, she didn't think her game fit Mulkey's low post system; she was correct. I wonder what she thought had changed over time because Mulkey still runs the same system. People tried to make HVL Alexis Morris because of her conversion, but Alexis Morris knew Mulkey's system and had played in it two years before her PG conversion. What HVL should have done was spend the summer working with Alexis instead of going back for USA basketball. Championship runs start in the offseason, and none of those starters spent their summer in Baton Rouge. Back to Lousiville, had Jeff decided to give her some time at both positions, she probably would not have left in the first place, but he made it clear that wasn't going to happen when he went and got a PG out of the portal, so she went where she could have favor. She needs to go to a team that needs shooters, and that runs a perimeter offense because you are not going to get that with Kim Mulkey.
The transfer portal will be very interesting this year. Anyone interested in a point guard should be looking at Kaitlyn Chen from Princeton. I would take her over HVL any day.
Since Iowa has been mentioned as a destination I just have to ask, where is Kateri Poole going? Iowa should reach out. Kateri is a smart, veteran Big 10 bball player & of playing in big games...unflappable under full court pressure & it's nice to have an enforcer around..if needed. Remember, lots of Pac-12 teams coming to the Big-10 next year & them girls are big & can ball!
Yes Iowa is looking for guards seeing the “Firm” of Clark, Martin & March-all leaving. As you point out, being seen as the Clark replacement is difficult enough but would be a disaster if seen as not even replacing Kate Martin. I doubt HVL would make anyone forget Gabbie Marshall defensively. HVL pluses - as you point out has Name & Likeness recognition, and can shoot. Minuses - defense … hard when only 5’7” and perhaps lacking (5’9”) Marshall’s relentless energy. Wishing HVL (& Angel R) success and fulfillment.
Im convinced by these comments that some of yall are ???? Because if Hailey cant play with elite players how can she be on a wnba rosters? How can she compete at the Olympics for Team USA???? All HVL has to do is keep working on her craft. More importantly choose a team that needs your strengths (shooting guard) and work on yor weaknesses so she can make an wnba roster.
Who said Harley can’t play with elite players? In her past 3 years she was playing with today’s WNBA players like Engstler, Evans, etc. So it really is just a matter of not fitting a system at LSU
This year though hard is the best thing that could have happened to HVL. Point Guard is actually her best chance at making it honestly. Because its not her natural position her decision making was questionable at times. She has improved a lot since the beginning of the season though. But coming to the SEC, a conference known for tough physical defense and great point guard play expecting to dominate was delusional. Not sure what Mulkey was thinking choosing an inexperienced point after the play of Alexis Morris.
HVL has always been a very good baller, but breaking a defense has never been one of her best skillls. Her foot speed is ordinary at best. Key in all this is she just isn't all that athletic and she's short for what the next level is looking for. Her best years in basketball may just be behind her.
I watched HVL as a schoolgirl along with Paige and Azzi. Some of those vids are on YT and they are pretty impressive. Having to (try) to guard CC in her finale game at LSU didn't do her any favors but she was better than some want to imply. HVL is NOT at the level of CC or Paige and probably not of JuJu but she's not a scrub and could play lots of places including the WNBA. Big star in the pros? ... ehhhh probly not but she could play and maybe start depending on where she goes.
1. Wherever she goes, she needs to work on her feet. 2. Schools with similar styles to Louisville: Ohio State and West Virginia. 3. this dude said Mulkey said Mulkey was a top 5 coach. Coming out of HS, she said she wanted to play for coach vut but school was in Texas.
Don’t leave out Mississippi State, to play for former Louisville Assistant Coach Sam Purcell. Lost their starting PG to graduation and can play next to Jerkalia Jordan.
A better fit for UCLA would be Kaitlin Chen from Princeton. She would be the closest thing to Charisma Osborne that they could get, and she's from the southern California area(San Marino). Hope she doesn't opt for USC.
Chen has been clear that her list is UCLA, USC, and UConn, with no chance of adding any others. UCLA and USC are on the list because they're at home; she's said over and over that she misses Los Angeles. UConn is there because of the Berube connection and her being a fit for their guard system; she'd be an automatic starter even with the strong freshmen they brought in.
She won’t be going to Iowa because Caitlin’s leaving. She won’t be going to UConn because they already have 2 good point guards. She needs to go where she gets to shine, because her stock dropped in LSU.
Hailey should go to Iowa...... it would be like Kevin Durant going to GSW..... we know how that ended with 2 rings and would have been 3 if not for injuries to KD and Klay.
The problem for HVL is that her stats for her Senior year are down noticeably. Additionally, because of the CC media frenzy, right now she is the girl who got torched in the final game of the season. And yes, she is probably motivated by the idea of playing in the WNBA. While it is true the talent level there is not amazing, it has clearly improved. But there are only 144 total roster spots available, and that is the theoretical number not the reality. I think she's a bench player at best.
Van Lith is slower than elite guards and she is not a good defender. She might fit at Stanford because they do need better outside shooting, but their guards are already slow and not great defenders, so I doubt if Tara would be interested. But who knows? Oh, and by the way, UCLA does not need a point guard! You keep calling Charisma Osborne UCLAs point guard, but she was only the backup. Kiki Rice is the PG. Charisma the off guard, unless Kiki needs a break or, like the game in the 16, was in foul trouble. Now, in their recruiting class, they have a top guard coming into the program. Van Lith does not fit at UCLA.
i didn't hear any hailey bashing when she was at louisville. for the most part people liked her. coach at louisville didn't tell her to leave, she left on her own volition. And hailey is not a great scorer or player. her best year was 19.7 ppg on 41 percent from the field and 29 percent from the 3. not a good defender and a below average playmaker. mulkey should been able to see that hailey is not what that team needed before bringing her there. Hailey needs to go somewhere that will allow her to shoot the ball 15-20 times a game. problem is no legitimate championship team would allow her to come in and play that way, her career field goal percentage doesn't warrant that. which means she would need to attend a school like louisville or as you said a california.
I agree, HLV may now be seen as non committed to the team/what’s best for her and not what’s best for the team and therefore will find it difficult in joining another chip contender.
As a player no doubt HVL must know what each Div 1 chip contender’s game philosophy/style of play is. To now say LSU doesn’t match her style is dumbfounding cuz one would think she already knew that!
That’s what caused the rift at the beginning of the season. The players thought Mulky was giving her preferential treatment as they were seeing how much better they were with Poa starting.
@@user-ho4dn2zq3bMorrow came in and started the season on the bench, but Kim handed Hailey a starting spot even though the players knew she wasn’t deserving of it. Morrow worked her way into a starting spot and played well, but Hailey didn’t want to do that. So when Coach started pulling her from games and benching her, I knew she would leave. It will be addition by subtraction because LSU can get better players in to play
I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American and male. So, while Wenatchee/Cashmere, Washington is a good 125 miles from Seattle, we know her up here. We all hear how Caitlin Clark will face racial hatred in the WNBA. How much of the unwelcomeness to Hailey by her LSU teammates, racially charged? Like Caitlin Clark, Hailey is good, White, pretty, clean cut, and I'm pretty sure Hailey is heterosexual. Oh, my ex-wife (wonderful woman, we just grew apart) is Black/Cherokee/White, and our daughter turns 11 in 2024, so I'm not hateful. My daughter gets racially taunted, as she's growing up in Bellevue, Washington (upscale suburb of Seattle), but that's a different story.
If it's one thing I've learned in womens bball is you can't have enough point guatds on the team. Ask Texas, LSU, etc. As I recall, Kim's prior team could've used an extra PG a couple of years ago. I'd get the best Junior Collage PG I could get as a back up to the back up.
@@shoofly529 They will have Paige, KK Arnold, and incoming Allie Ziebell and Morgan Cheli. Besides, the offense that UConn runs is not point guard centric. Nika has been very good most of the time. But, if the bench would have been healthy, we'd have seen a much, much different style of offense. Like I said, not PG centric.
@buzzard6410 I think this is Gino's best year of coaching given the lack of a bench all year. Scary what that team could've been. To me it's kind of a chicken or the egg thing. Not PG centric because of not having a PG or not PG centric because we choose to run that type of offense.
@@shoofly529 They run the high post weave until the defense gets out of position, then whoever has the ball is supposed to make the correct decision. Or Paige will just do Paige things. And you are right, to get to the final 4 with what is on the bench in street clothes? Starting 2 freshmen and a third as the sixth man??? I had them making it no further than sweet 16. But like I said before, sometimes Paige will just do Paige things.
The fact that everybody is talking about her means she is something...aint she? Only HVL knows what she needs. She has had a good experience in LSU positive and negative. She now understands her weaknesses better in terms of being a drfensive player and how she has improved in that over the last year. She also learnt that being a PG is leadership position that is akin to the coach on the floor. Requires a number of skills all working simultenously together efficiently. So it was never about being the right fit and playing the same way she used to at Louisville. Rather, it was about having more tools in her arsenal to be versatile enough to be in the roster in the W and be as effective on both 1 & 2 positions when required. She is a hard worker. This year was her kryptonite and it was a good choice to join LSU. She is a much tougher, wiser and mentally strong player than she was in the Lousville bubble. Nobody can guard Caitlin Clark, not even Morriss was able to. So she did her assignment well and should not be mocked for Clark's brilliance. I didnt hear anyone mock any player last year when Clark touched SC. But of course because HVL plays in a team that is loved and hated in equal measure, she will be singled out and mocked for not being able to stop someone who nobody has been able to stop yet. It will all come together wherever she decides to go. My prediction is, she will continue switiching to both positions and will develop her jump shot as a PG much more than a perimeter shooter.
The only correction that I have to your statement is that during this years championship game with SC from quarters 2-4 Raven Johnson held CC to 12 points, and stole the ball from her, I believe twice. CC is not unguardable. As for HVL, I think she would do well at USC or Standford.
Why are you saying she failed? They made it to the final elite eight that success. LSU had two major losses in Samaya Smith and kateri poole.And they still had a good run against some good teams.
I don't think it worked out the way she & LSU hoped (HVL proving she could play PG and LSU winning championship or at the very least making it back to the final four) but that happens in life
Step into her own. A team where she isn't sharing someone's spotlight. To a team not in the national spotlight but one that can be and she can be a leader and have less expectations on her and opportunities to improve her talents. Take the team from a cover band TO a rock star band. The new coach at Tennessee is run n gun fast pace, defensive pressure. She could flourish in the perimeter 3 point offense and improve her defense with a supporting cast. It's a place at a level that her stock will not go down if she doesn't make the final four. She can absolutely increase her value immensely. The ceiling iis unlimited where the floor is still high. It's a win win situation for her. Somewhere like iowa or UConn they will have to win the championship or she will be the scapegoat because the second she signs with one of them they will be high in that conversation. If they don't win it, the media will put it all on her as to why they didn't because she is who or them in that conversation, even if she has a breakout player of the year type season she'll still be the "could have improved....." 3pt percentage a could points or her defense was not as intense as needed....etc. If Caldwell and Tennessee doesn't come calling, then she needs to be calling them TODAY! Not to mention all that NIL money available and a nationally recognized women's college basketball name. The smart choice would be wearing Orange and White.
No one hates on her at all. There’s levels to this and CC exposed that she isn’t on the level that she thinks she is. She’s overrated and isn’t as talented as she thinks she is.
NC State or UCLA. Especially since she appears to be NATTY chasing. Both teams do appear to have a possibility of winning a national championship. Also, NC STATE, being in the final 4 right now could win this year, if South Carolina doesn’t take them out first. Rivers, James, and Van Lith. Hailey wouldn’t have to play point, because Rivers is the point guard. She can go back to her original position. These three would really dominate!
I really have no opinion on where she should go, beyond "anywhere but LSU" and "away from Kim Mulkey." The "Dirty Debutante" thing did not enhance her rep, and that's what you get playing for Mulkey. That said, she's a great shooting guard. I question whether she can go the the W at her height, but she's great either way. Some team will take a chance on her learning something about how to get open in the W, and she will win or fail. No story there. As a point guard... no. Just no. She doesn't have the court vision and she's not a great passer and she's too slow (because she's so damn short.) Learning some ball handling skills would have been great for her; if she was a better ball handler she'd be a lock in the W because she's so short. That's one place in the W where being short is an advantage. But she didn't demonstrate anything to me in her season at LSU. She has another, now, and that's fine. She also needs some rehab on her rep. It's actually good she didn't fit in at LSU. That will make rehabbing her rep easier. Of more interest is what position she plays. She's a natural 2. I think, had she not gone to LSU, she would have been able to attract some interest in the W even at her height, or could have if her scoring percent stayed the same or better. Now, it's anybody's guess. I take your point about taking a risk. But some risks should not be taken, and that one may have been a mistake. If she slots in somewhere as a 2-- even, maybe particularly, off the bench-- and still does good, then she can go. If she develops her ball handling skills and her passing, she could play backup 1 or an alternative, in case they were guarding the primary hard of she was in foul trouble or whatever.
There are no Ivy League schools suggested in this video, which makes sense because the Ivy League doesn't allow graduate students to play -- you are done playing the moment you get your Bachelor's. That's why Chen has entered the portal out of Princeton.
Hailey's dad is too involved. That's a turn-off for me with any potential recruit. I think getting out of the SEC is a good idea. Too much size, quickness, and athleticism in that conference. I like the big 10 as an option for Hailey. Oregon would definitely take her.
Going to SC would not be good for HVL. She is to slow and to small. SC guards are from 5'9" to 6'2". She would not start and their bench is to strong. Plus, she is about HVL not a team player.
HVL was not a good fit for LSU, period. She wanted KM to give her a chance to play PG because she's an undersized guard. It was not a good fit and it cost LSU an opportunity for a championship.
I haven't seen much of HVL but the look in her face after the last game did not seem healthy. At the time, not knowing the details of transferring to LSU, I felt she gave off the vibes of an outsiders who was pushed around and abused there. She gave off zero passion for basketball, her team, or herself in that face of hers. Look at that video again. She did not look like she belonged to anyone much less LSU.
Hailey Van Lith should go to Iowa because Kaylan Clark and they’re really good. You’ll probably win a lot of games because number 22 Kaitlyn Clark is really good too. He scores a lot of free pornos and it’s really fun watching them. You should really go Hailey Van Lith. I wish you stayed at a Louisville because they’re really fun. I’m really sad but it’s OK stay Hailey Van Lith let’s go she was really the best player on the team but we got some new players had a really good go piece.
velez? velez is about to sit the bench again all year. if she wants to see more than 45 secs of playing time in a few games, she should hit the portal.
I won't be surprised if HVL join South Carolina, yes she would be criticized as a carpetbagger, but Dawn Staley can help develop her point guard skills.
Would you even be talking about Iowa if Caitlin Clark wasn’t on the team? Without Clark that team is just another team that nobody cares about because they surely wouldn’t have been in the final 2 years in a row
haha - you miss the point - They were in the Championship game two years in a row- no other team can say that. They are only team to best SC in last two years -
@@andycable6108 well they came up short both times. Other teams have won multiple times in a row and I’m pretty certain it’s because her team didn’t make her better
Nobody was criticizing HVL for transferring.. the problem was she tried to jump on the LSU wave when it was never going to be a good fit from a basketball standpoint.
I think you are correct, but its understandable how she was led to make that mistake to elevate her WNBA potential. There were probably a lot of respectable, knowledgeable people telling her she could do it. Also, she put in the effort to make it work though obviously it wasn't enough.
Agree 💯 that grass wasn’t greener, & defiantly not at, As the world turns. Prodigal daughter, go back home if you can.
Got back to Louisville, or UCLA.
Not Louisville - never be the same. UCLA
Way I see it, she's just a kid trying to figure things out like all other kids. She's still a college student at the end of the day.
Yep
Far from some simple college student finding her way! Her dad has been directing her "career" since grade school, planning every move to make the WNBA...
According to Coach Mulkey, Pro Scouts wanted to see her game at the point guard position because they think in the pros, she would interchange between both positions. Her conversion to a PG would have been smoother if she had known the Mulkey system then, she would have just been learning a new position. She thought it better to go to a high visible program with a lot of pro prospects like a mini pro team she spoke of. LSU girls play a more creative playground style. I think her game is more open shooter suburban style IMO. I blame Mulkey because she should have converted her back to a shooter.
Mulky is the one who needs to be a better coach for sure. Mulky abused her in that last game,had no plan . She had to run team as point guard and defend the best player in the game. Mylky sold her out cuz mulky is overrated as far as I'm concerned.
Agree, Murky🤡 saw HVL as what nobody else saw, HVL as the greatest defender in dah history of women’s college BB and there’s nothing like dah best against dah best! 🤡x2, 🤦♂️🙅♂️I hole❤️edly agree, HLV needs to get out of Murky’s LSU!
I'm happy to hear HVL is transferring again.
She was hung out to dry by Mulken.
She doesn't need to go pro, she just needs a school that will utilize her skills.
HVL thoght she can come too lsu and when a championship because of what she sarned aw lsu do, but she learned quickly that wasn't going too work
@@user-ho4dn2zq3b Uh, I think the last game of the season isn't learning quickly, do you?
She is a not a very well round player she needs to go somewhere that can enhance her skillset in the right position because she looks confused in the current position at LSU you have to hone in on a persons skills first then gradually expose them to more, she might need to stay at LSU however that's just my opinion ? I only know Manufacturing/Operation, Employee tatics not sport!!!
@@1.culturechanger Who decides whether she is at a higher level? The coach! Mulkey didn't do her due diligence and failed, possibly on purpose to get HVL back for another year. Mulkey was wrong both times.
The last place HVL should go is IOWA.
I disagree, go to Iowa HVL is a top level scorer when she's not surrounded by other great players
@@hood_TheJokerfirst thing HVL should do is NOT shoot from her shoulder. Her shot is not consistent. She needs to raise her release point to the eyebrow, forehead or even better, above the head release. When she shoots her left elbow should be ABOVE the ear, NOT at the shoulder level! She has no backspin on her shot at times and NO arc.
@@marcusb.3038 have you watched her since high school?... if so you would know that she is a winner and this was a tough year.. she would be fine at Iowa..stop hatin' my boy
@@hood_TheJoker I remember Kobe going to her high school and doing drills with her. She’s a very good player. Her and Cameron Brink won the fiba 3x3 gold medal last year. That being said, she’s not ready for the “W”!
@@hood_TheJoker Did you see Caitlin annihilate her (Hailey) during Iowa vs LSU Elite Eight matchup?
Iowa desperately needs guards since they are losing Caitlin Clark, Molly Davis, Kate Martin, and Gabbie Marshall so it makes a ton of sense. Louisville would also be interesting, but I don't know if a player has ever transferred away from a school and returned a year later? That would be odd.
She should go closer to home first.
Iowa? Nobody is going to care about them once Clark leaves. Why would she play with a bunch of scrubs for mean nasty coach?
I don’t know if anyone has done it one year but Meechie Johnson is going back to Ohio State after playing only two years at South Carolina. I don’t think going back to Louisville would be right for her tho.
Ain't nobody going to Iowa
@@helenoftroy1227 her parting comments burned some bridges with Lo
I like this chic! I admire tenacity! Her ball handing skills! Get on it Hailey! USC, south Carolina, !🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
The question is "Why is she leaving LSU?" Did LSU/Mulkey lose confidence in HVL or did HVL lose confidence in LSU having a shot at the championship next year?
who cares. she sucks.
I'm curious to know - What is the deadline for the transfer portal? Is there a certain date by which someone must commit to their new team? How long to players get to decide where they will transfer to? Could you clear that up for me? Thanks.
HVL kind of needs to find a place where she fit in. She never really did at LSU.
The problem with HVL is she don’t have a pull up off the dribble type shot it’s majority catch and shot and that’s a disadvantage with her size
LSU is getting the top player in Louisiana which is a point guard. Usually when they get that kind of player, it's Seimone Augustus, Mikaylah Williams, etc. So LSU will be fine. They just need reliable depth and they're right back knocking on the title door.
And Hailey's not dumb. She knows she's not the best defender. She also knew putting her on Caitlin was basically Kim Mulkey not caring about winning that game & hanging her out to dry.
I highly doubt Bluder would take her. She is very picky about her players. They didn't call them milk and cookies for nothing. That is why I like Iowa.
Milk and cookies related to ucla 🙄
@@neishachambers2719yeah, but it applies to Iowa as well
Perceptive of you to mention that envy is behind at least some of the malice toward her.
She is good looking and talented- many people are not both and that makes her a target.
Now, that being said, there is something petulant about her and she really needs to express herself better.
@@written12lol. Please consult a dictionary and then choose a better word than, lol, petulant.
@@written12they didn’t call them milk and cookies at all. Wrong team slick😂
I don’t care where HVL goes-her game will not translate to the WNBA…period! She to short to play point guard in the WNBA because she’s to slow.
She'll go to Kentucky. She'll be able to play the two with Amoore running the point.
At the beginning of the year, I said that Makila should have been groomed to take over the point guard. But Mulkey seemed determined to cater to HVL, maybe because of a past relationship when she was recruited by her out of high school. When HVL first evaluated where to go to college, she didn't think her game fit Mulkey's low post system; she was correct. I wonder what she thought had changed over time because Mulkey still runs the same system. People tried to make HVL Alexis Morris because of her conversion, but Alexis Morris knew Mulkey's system and had played in it two years before her PG conversion. What HVL should have done was spend the summer working with Alexis instead of going back for USA basketball. Championship runs start in the offseason, and none of those starters spent their summer in Baton Rouge. Back to Lousiville, had Jeff decided to give her some time at both positions, she probably would not have left in the first place, but he made it clear that wasn't going to happen when he went and got a PG out of the portal, so she went where she could have favor. She needs to go to a team that needs shooters, and that runs a perimeter offense because you are not going to get that with Kim Mulkey.
Exactly Mikaela Williams would have been great for the ☝️ pt💜 hopefully that's where she ends up next year 💜💛💜💛💜💛💜💛
Leave that girl alone. She will be fine. Leave her alone.
What's really baffling is Mulkey kept on playing her as a point guard even though HVL is a shooting guard. This was the only choice she had...
The transfer portal will be very interesting this year. Anyone interested in a point guard should be looking at Kaitlyn Chen from Princeton. I would take her over HVL any day.
Since Iowa has been mentioned as a destination I just have to ask, where is Kateri Poole going? Iowa should reach out. Kateri is a smart, veteran Big 10 bball player & of playing in big games...unflappable under full court pressure & it's nice to have an enforcer around..if needed. Remember, lots of Pac-12 teams coming to the Big-10 next year & them girls are big & can ball!
Yes Iowa is looking for guards seeing the “Firm” of Clark, Martin & March-all leaving. As you point out, being seen as the Clark replacement is difficult enough but would be a disaster if seen as not even replacing Kate Martin. I doubt HVL would make anyone forget Gabbie Marshall defensively.
HVL pluses - as you point out has Name & Likeness recognition, and can shoot.
Minuses - defense … hard when only 5’7” and perhaps lacking (5’9”) Marshall’s relentless energy.
Wishing HVL (& Angel R) success and fulfillment.
Agree, her stock dropped at LSU thanks to coach Murky!
If Hailey goes to Kentucky, Louisville fans will really have a good reason to lay a lot of hate on her!
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Im convinced by these comments that some of yall are ???? Because if Hailey cant play with elite players how can she be on a wnba rosters? How can she compete at the Olympics for Team USA???? All HVL has to do is keep working on her craft. More importantly choose a team that needs your strengths (shooting guard) and work on yor weaknesses so she can make an wnba roster.
How can she compete at the Olympics , you ask? Probably the same way she previously competed winning 3 gold medals.
Who said Harley can’t play with elite players? In her past 3 years she was playing with today’s WNBA players like Engstler, Evans, etc. So it really is just a matter of not fitting a system at LSU
+ I think she was trying too hard to become a player she never was, and it made her look very unnatural
Van Lith was an all american & took Louisville to the Final Four. She didn't forget how to play basketball. Kim Mulkey blew it
This year though hard is the best thing that could have happened to HVL. Point Guard is actually her best chance at making it honestly. Because its not her natural position her decision making was questionable at times. She has improved a lot since the beginning of the season though. But coming to the SEC, a conference known for tough physical defense and great point guard play expecting to dominate was delusional. Not sure what Mulkey was thinking choosing an inexperienced point after the play of Alexis Morris.
HVL transfered to LSU because she thought that was her best chance to win a national title. Loyalty is out of fashion?
she said God told her to transfer.
Stanford will be the choice. No way she takes that Iowa smoke
HVL has always been a very good baller, but breaking a defense has never been one of her best skillls. Her foot speed is ordinary at best. Key in all this is she just isn't all that athletic and she's short for what the next level is looking for. Her best years in basketball may just be behind her.
Good analysis.
I watched HVL as a schoolgirl along with Paige and Azzi. Some of those vids are on YT and they are pretty impressive. Having to (try) to guard CC in her finale game at LSU didn't do her any favors but she was better than some want to imply. HVL is NOT at the level of CC or Paige and probably not of JuJu but she's not a scrub and could play lots of places including the WNBA. Big star in the pros? ... ehhhh probly not but she could play and maybe start depending on where she goes.
She should have stayed at Louisville.....Bad decision to go to LSU and try to become a PG....
1. Wherever she goes, she needs to work on her feet.
2. Schools with similar styles to Louisville: Ohio State and West Virginia.
3. this dude said Mulkey said Mulkey was a top 5 coach. Coming out of HS, she said she wanted to play for coach vut but school was in Texas.
Don’t leave out Mississippi State, to play for former Louisville Assistant Coach Sam Purcell. Lost their starting PG to graduation and can play next to Jerkalia Jordan.
A better fit for UCLA would be Kaitlin Chen from Princeton. She would be the closest thing to Charisma Osborne that they could get, and she's from the southern California area(San Marino). Hope she doesn't opt for USC.
Chen has been clear that her list is UCLA, USC, and UConn, with no chance of adding any others.
UCLA and USC are on the list because they're at home; she's said over and over that she misses Los Angeles. UConn is there because of the Berube connection and her being a fit for their guard system; she'd be an automatic starter even with the strong freshmen they brought in.
She won’t be going to Iowa because Caitlin’s leaving. She won’t be going to UConn because they already have 2 good point guards. She needs to go where she gets to shine, because her stock dropped in LSU.
You could tell that LSU wasn't a good fit for her. Let her try another place. What is wrong with that?
I wish you say, at Louisville I’m really sad but it’s OK
Whatever school she ends up at she should play shooting guard or off ball rather than point. That just didn't work out.
Hailey should go to Iowa...... it would be like Kevin Durant going to GSW..... we know how that ended with 2 rings and would have been 3 if not for injuries to KD and Klay.
There's no one left in Iowa, and it is not a destination.
iowa has entered the mediocre portal
Good stuff! We'll see if delrosario is ready to start next year
I wonder who's next on Lsu
The problem for HVL is that her stats for her Senior year are down noticeably. Additionally, because of the CC media frenzy, right now she is the girl who got torched in the final game of the season. And yes, she is probably motivated by the idea of playing in the WNBA. While it is true the talent level there is not amazing, it has clearly improved. But there are only 144 total roster spots available, and that is the theoretical number not the reality. I think she's a bench player at best.
Van Lith is slower than elite guards and she is not a good defender. She might fit at Stanford because they do need better outside shooting, but their guards are already slow and not great defenders, so I doubt if Tara would be interested. But who knows? Oh, and by the way, UCLA does not need a point guard! You keep calling Charisma Osborne UCLAs point guard, but she was only the backup. Kiki Rice is the PG. Charisma the off guard, unless Kiki needs a break or, like the game in the 16, was in foul trouble. Now, in their recruiting class, they have a top guard coming into the program. Van Lith does not fit at UCLA.
Tara gone...
i didn't hear any hailey bashing when she was at louisville. for the most part people liked her. coach at louisville didn't tell her to leave, she left on her own volition. And hailey is not a great scorer or player. her best year was 19.7 ppg on 41 percent from the field and 29 percent from the 3. not a good defender and a below average playmaker. mulkey should been able to see that hailey is not what that team needed before bringing her there. Hailey needs to go somewhere that will allow her to shoot the ball 15-20 times a game. problem is no legitimate championship team would allow her to come in and play that way, her career field goal percentage doesn't warrant that. which means she would need to attend a school like louisville or as you said a california.
I love Haley Van Lith. She’s an excellent ball player and handler. The WNBA should have picked her up! They’ll be back at her.
I agree, HLV may now be seen as non committed to the team/what’s best for her and not what’s best for the team and therefore will find it difficult in joining another chip contender.
Great News
As a player no doubt HVL must know what each Div 1 chip contender’s game philosophy/style of play is. To now say LSU doesn’t match her style is dumbfounding cuz one would think she already knew that!
I love hvl to go to uconn..nikas replacement..m
Poa should’ve been starting instead of her all season
That’s what caused the rift at the beginning of the season. The players thought Mulky was giving her preferential treatment as they were seeing how much better they were with Poa starting.
I've been saying that. Poa should have been starting before her, but we all knew what that was about ???
@@user-ho4dn2zq3bMorrow came in and started the season on the bench, but Kim handed Hailey a starting spot even though the players knew she wasn’t deserving of it. Morrow worked her way into a starting spot and played well, but Hailey didn’t want to do that. So when Coach started pulling her from games and benching her, I knew she would leave. It will be addition by subtraction because LSU can get better players in to play
@h.j.terrancejr.8219 exactly she's doing us a favor by leaving anyhow, I was praying she wouldn't come back lol 😂
I was born in Seattle in 1973, where I grew up. Sonics and Blazers fan. Japanese-American and male. So, while Wenatchee/Cashmere, Washington is a good 125 miles from Seattle, we know her up here. We all hear how Caitlin Clark will face racial hatred in the WNBA. How much of the unwelcomeness to Hailey by her LSU teammates, racially charged? Like Caitlin Clark, Hailey is good, White, pretty, clean cut, and I'm pretty sure Hailey is heterosexual. Oh, my ex-wife (wonderful woman, we just grew apart) is Black/Cherokee/White, and our daughter turns 11 in 2024, so I'm not hateful. My daughter gets racially taunted, as she's growing up in Bellevue, Washington (upscale suburb of Seattle), but that's a different story.
go to Iowa, they need a scorer for next season.. HVL is a top level scorer when she's not surrounded by other top level players
If she goes to Iowa she constantly be compared to Caitlin and the pressure on her would be very hard.
@@matthewreese3907 no she won't that doesn't make sense
You’re right, Hailey was not a good fit at LSU, but maybe a better fit at Iowa or Stanford
Indeed
WOW...."influencers" can degrade ANYTHING as long as they get to hear themselves online.
If it's one thing I've learned in womens bball is you can't have enough point guatds on the team. Ask Texas, LSU, etc. As I recall, Kim's prior team could've used an extra PG a couple of years ago. I'd get the best Junior Collage PG I could get as a back up to the back up.
UConn has a TON of guards. Maybe could trade one for a big???
@@buzzard6410 Agree they have Guards yes but you need Point Guards, the floor generals, the extension of the coach on the court.
@@shoofly529 They will have Paige, KK Arnold, and incoming Allie Ziebell and Morgan Cheli. Besides, the offense that UConn runs is not point guard centric. Nika has been very good most of the time. But, if the bench would have been healthy, we'd have seen a much, much different style of offense. Like I said, not PG centric.
@buzzard6410 I think this is Gino's best year of coaching given the lack of a bench all year. Scary what that team could've been. To me it's kind of a chicken or the egg thing. Not PG centric because of not having a PG or not PG centric because we choose to run that type of offense.
@@shoofly529 They run the high post weave until the defense gets out of position, then whoever has the ball is supposed to make the correct decision. Or Paige will just do Paige things.
And you are right, to get to the final 4 with what is on the bench in street clothes? Starting 2 freshmen and a third as the sixth man??? I had them making it no further than sweet 16. But like I said before, sometimes Paige will just do Paige things.
The fact that everybody is talking about her means she is something...aint she? Only HVL knows what she needs. She has had a good experience in LSU positive and negative. She now understands her weaknesses better in terms of being a drfensive player and how she has improved in that over the last year. She also learnt that being a PG is leadership position that is akin to the coach on the floor. Requires a number of skills all working simultenously together efficiently. So it was never about being the right fit and playing the same way she used to at Louisville. Rather, it was about having more tools in her arsenal to be versatile enough to be in the roster in the W and be as effective on both 1 & 2 positions when required. She is a hard worker. This year was her kryptonite and it was a good choice to join LSU. She is a much tougher, wiser and mentally strong player than she was in the Lousville bubble. Nobody can guard Caitlin Clark, not even Morriss was able to. So she did her assignment well and should not be mocked for Clark's brilliance. I didnt hear anyone mock any player last year when Clark touched SC. But of course because HVL plays in a team that is loved and hated in equal measure, she will be singled out and mocked for not being able to stop someone who nobody has been able to stop yet. It will all come together wherever she decides to go. My prediction is, she will continue switiching to both positions and will develop her jump shot as a PG much more than a perimeter shooter.
The only correction that I have to your statement is that during this years championship game with SC from quarters 2-4 Raven Johnson held CC to 12 points, and stole the ball from her, I believe twice. CC is not unguardable. As for HVL, I think she would do well at USC or Standford.
06:37 Gabriella #23 is a cutie pie.
Why are you saying she failed? They made it to the final elite eight that success. LSU had two major losses in Samaya Smith and kateri poole.And they still had a good run against some good teams.
I don't think it worked out the way she & LSU hoped (HVL proving she could play PG and LSU winning championship or at the very least making it back to the final four) but that happens in life
She should go to Ohio State!
Agreed. I said 2 weeks ago that Van Lith should've transfer to Ohio State or Texas
Go to Iowa. Lisa would give her the green light. Just like she gave Caitlin, Kate,and Gabbie .
Step into her own. A team where she isn't sharing someone's spotlight. To a team not in the national spotlight but one that can be and she can be a leader and have less expectations on her and opportunities to improve her talents. Take the team from a cover band TO a rock star band. The new coach at Tennessee is run n gun fast pace, defensive pressure. She could flourish in the perimeter 3 point offense and improve her defense with a supporting cast. It's a place at a level that her stock will not go down if she doesn't make the final four. She can absolutely increase her value immensely. The ceiling iis unlimited where the floor is still high. It's a win win situation for her. Somewhere like iowa or UConn they will have to win the championship or she will be the scapegoat because the second she signs with one of them they will be high in that conversation. If they don't win it, the media will put it all on her as to why they didn't because she is who or them in that conversation, even if she has a breakout player of the year type season she'll still be the "could have improved....." 3pt percentage a could points or her defense was not as intense as needed....etc. If Caldwell and Tennessee doesn't come calling, then she needs to be calling them TODAY! Not to mention all that NIL money available and a nationally recognized women's college basketball name. The smart choice would be wearing Orange and White.
No one hates on her at all. There’s levels to this and CC exposed that she isn’t on the level that she thinks she is. She’s overrated and isn’t as talented as she thinks she is.
No worries
Play hard baby
NC State or UCLA. Especially since she appears to be NATTY chasing. Both teams do appear to have a possibility of winning a national championship. Also, NC STATE, being in the final 4 right now could win this year, if South Carolina doesn’t take them out first.
Rivers, James, and Van Lith. Hailey wouldn’t have to play point, because Rivers is the point guard. She can go back to her original position. These three would really dominate!
Oregon State!
I really have no opinion on where she should go, beyond "anywhere but LSU" and "away from Kim Mulkey." The "Dirty Debutante" thing did not enhance her rep, and that's what you get playing for Mulkey.
That said, she's a great shooting guard. I question whether she can go the the W at her height, but she's great either way. Some team will take a chance on her learning something about how to get open in the W, and she will win or fail. No story there.
As a point guard... no. Just no. She doesn't have the court vision and she's not a great passer and she's too slow (because she's so damn short.) Learning some ball handling skills would have been great for her; if she was a better ball handler she'd be a lock in the W because she's so short. That's one place in the W where being short is an advantage. But she didn't demonstrate anything to me in her season at LSU. She has another, now, and that's fine. She also needs some rehab on her rep. It's actually good she didn't fit in at LSU. That will make rehabbing her rep easier.
Of more interest is what position she plays. She's a natural 2. I think, had she not gone to LSU, she would have been able to attract some interest in the W even at her height, or could have if her scoring percent stayed the same or better. Now, it's anybody's guess. I take your point about taking a risk. But some risks should not be taken, and that one may have been a mistake. If she slots in somewhere as a 2-- even, maybe particularly, off the bench-- and still does good, then she can go. If she develops her ball handling skills and her passing, she could play backup 1 or an alternative, in case they were guarding the primary hard of she was in foul trouble or whatever.
Sorry things did not work out for her. Sounds like a lot of people are jealous of her.
UCLA or Colorado would be good.
Only dirty players want to be on a team with dirty playing, you know hair pulling, hitting, knocking people down.
She should go to Virginia Tech
lol. unfortunately VT's got plenty of spaces available but already have a decent shooting guard in Carleigh Wenzel though.
Hailey Van Ring Chaser
Does Hailey have a nose piercing? Nothing wrong with it. Just curious.
Uconn sounds like a better fit than Iowa. Although earning a graduate degree from an Ivy league school would be a smart move.
There are no Ivy League schools suggested in this video, which makes sense because the Ivy League doesn't allow graduate students to play -- you are done playing the moment you get your Bachelor's. That's why Chen has entered the portal out of Princeton.
She just needs the work on athleticism!!
Could be that with Reese leaving, HVL sees LSU no longer top contender.
If she wants a Natty, she would go to South Carolina but I doubt she would be a starter there ... but that's her best chance for a ring.
HVL needs to get back with Jalen Suggs...that's her bag. Because the game is trash.
UCLA is coming to the Big10.
Well, UConn is full. Good luck HVL.
Hailey's dad is too involved. That's a turn-off for me with any potential recruit.
I think getting out of the SEC is a good idea. Too much size, quickness, and athleticism in that conference.
I like the big 10 as an option for Hailey. Oregon would definitely take her.
The KD of NCAAW
Going to SC would not be good for HVL. She is to slow and to small. SC guards are from 5'9" to 6'2". She would not start and their bench is to strong. Plus, she is about HVL not a team player.
She needs to go to usc and play like she played in lousville!
HVL was not a good fit for LSU, period. She wanted KM to give her a chance to play PG because she's an undersized guard. It was not a good fit and it cost LSU an opportunity for a championship.
I can't blame her, she may be opertunest but glad she leaves a toxic environment.
How do you know this? Do you work in program? Are you in the locker room? You know nothing!!
@Oiseaux331 you are correct, i know nothing. Are you a km fan ?
@@2visiondigital Thanks for your honesty. I am a fan of the game of WBB and follow various teams and coaches. I watch the LSU team very closely .
It was a toxic environment. LSU and all that drama. Get away from that foolishness
@@Oiseaux331 do you admire KM ? I don't!
She chasing a chip cuz LSU ain’t it no more?
Maybe HVL can transfer to South Carolina.
The way she performed against Iowa, she may want to consider Francis Elementary school
Ok hear me out: she might transfer to MTSU 😂😂😂😂😂
HVL is very pretty…
The Great White Hype...period!
I haven't seen much of HVL but the look in her face after the last game did not seem healthy. At the time, not knowing the details of transferring to LSU, I felt she gave off the vibes of an outsiders who was pushed around and abused there. She gave off zero passion for basketball, her team, or herself in that face of hers. Look at that video again. She did not look like she belonged to anyone much less LSU.
Hailey Van Lith should go to Iowa because Kaylan Clark and they’re really good. You’ll probably win a lot of games because number 22 Kaitlyn Clark is really good too. He scores a lot of free pornos and it’s really fun watching them. You should really go Hailey Van Lith. I wish you stayed at a Louisville because they’re really fun. I’m really sad but it’s OK stay Hailey Van Lith let’s go she was really the best player on the team but we got some new players had a really good go piece.
These kids are getting so much publicity now we can start judging character.
HVL was in the wrong conference.
Velez will most likely be the new starting PG for LSU Makayla Williams will stay at SF.
Honestly I thought Williams was at SG and Flaujae was at SF
Not happening that point guard Mulkey is bring in is like Hildaldo think she will get the starting nod
@@politicallil7060who’s coming in?
velez? velez is about to sit the bench again all year. if she wants to see more than 45 secs of playing time in a few games, she should hit the portal.
Chasing gold under the rainbow. I wouldn't do it.
JUST LET HAILEY VAN LITH ALONE AND LET HER GROW INTO HER OWN GAME. IT'S JUST THE MEDIA TRYING TO DESTROY HER CAREER.
I won't be surprised if HVL join South Carolina, yes she would be criticized as a carpetbagger, but Dawn Staley can help develop her point guard skills.
That's pretty funny if she speaks in the 3rd person, like pro-wrestlers.
She should go back to Louisville..
Would you even be talking about Iowa if Caitlin Clark wasn’t on the team? Without Clark that team is just another team that nobody cares about because they surely wouldn’t have been in the final 2 years in a row
haha - you miss the point - They were in the Championship game two years in a row- no other team can say that. They are only team to best SC in last two years -
@@andycable6108 well they came up short both times. Other teams have won multiple times in a row and I’m pretty certain it’s because her team didn’t make her better
@@andycable6108 so what did I miss?