Well, this just got a bunch of views, so I figured I'd write a comment to address what appears will be a FAQ: What did CFS have to say? Despite how bad the the Puma logos (and potentially the nameset) are now in hindsight, at the time I got the shirt I blindly trusted them and just hung the shirt. I hadn't realised until a friend came over and I showed him. At that point even if I was in time to return the shirt, given my distance to the UK and the hassles of paying and organising the returns (done it before with them, wasn't in the mood to do it again), I took the loss and kept the shirt. Returning the shirt also doesn't really solve much, and isn't the point of the video! They would've just re-uploaded it like they did with previous returns i've had with them. This video is more so about their lack of clarity in photos and product descriptions. If an absolute nerd like me hadn't bought it, they would've happily sold this for an absurd price to someone else and he/she would've never found out. Maybe i'm just cynical, but i've seen plenty of shirts on their site i would've bought if they didn't have dodgy looking namesets. With the amount of blind trust they have in the space, combined with the prices they charge, the responsibility is on them to be transparent. This purchase was long before I started this channel, which is something I am doing to help others by using info i've learned along the way of searching for shirts i love. Like I said in the video, I'd still trust CFS in the space, but they need to do better, and if you're looking to buy older shirts, ask for more info, because what happened to me can happen to you too. If your takeaway is that I'm somehow the villain in this, do as you please, but very strange!
Did you complain. What was outcome. Update before a buy from them. But in a way. Does any 1 need the hassle to have to do all the checks they should have done
Personally i have made a few purchases from cfs in the past 2/3 years, with my 2 most premium shirts being a gerrard 07/08 lfc shirt, and a zidane 04/05 madrid shirt. ive always felt they are the most reliable in the business and have never had any issues myself, however i do dislike their use of the same images for multiple listings of a shirt, aswell as their very generalised descriptions and lack of close-up shots of any pulls, nicks etc. on the whole this video definately made me think a little more about what im buying from them in the future
Informative video - well done. As a longtime Vancouver Whitecaps fan (1978 to be exact) who also has a deep interest in football kits, I challenged CFS on a posting for what was claimed to be an authentic Whitecaps team shirt. The shirt they posted on the CFS site in no way resembled any kit I have ever seen worn by the team, or fans. The design was wrong, I had never seen another shirt like it anywhere else, and even the style of Admiral logo didn't fit with the era and was never used on any Whitecaps shirt. As a close watcher of all things Admiral, I noticed the logo wasn't quite right - the hoop at the top of the trademark was slightly too large. I mentioned my concerns to CFS on a number of occasions and they took down the shirt while they said their experts would look into my claims. Then they re-posted the shirt again, claiming the shirt was original, in their estimation. I then challenged them on two other occasions, sending them examples of photos showing authentic shirts from the era in question. On my last enquiry - a few months ago - CFS replied the shirt was, again, claimed to be authentic, but cut the price in half, and added information on the website description, posting that the shirt was not one widely used. This episode has detracted greatly from my trust in CFS. My suspicion is they unknowingly purchased the shirt for a premium, thinking they could re-sell it at a much higher price, and are hoping to cut their losses by listing it for much less than what they initially asked for.
thank you for this insightful comment. I completely understand, I had a similar incident with a Roma shirt that had a peculiar nameset. I didn't mention it in the video (perhaps I should have, but I wanted to focus on this Italy shirt). Anyways, that time I told them that the Roma shirt on their site had a wrong colored nameset for the jersey. They responded they did research, and found it was worn one time and never got back to me. The shirt then disappeared from the site, and was reuploaded a while later. I always wondered, why tell me they did research and confirm it was worn in a single game, but not specify the game. It would've been the ultimate proof as I could've checked myself. Instead they never specified, kept it vague, removed product, and reuploaded later. Just looks like they were hoping to send me away. The fact that something like that happened to you too goes to says a lot.
If the shirt was “not widely used” it would be worth a lot more! Why would they cut the price in half instead? Lol back in the day these companies could get away with lies, but not anymore I’m glad people will call them out. I’ve bought from them before, will definitely think twice before spending big money on something “rare” from them.
They once brought an old Leeds shirt from me it wasn’t In great condition however it was in their Manchester store they added a fake name set to the shirt and tried to charge £85 when I asked them about it they told me it wasn’t the same shirt I checked the tag inside of the shirt and it had the same marking as my shirt I shown them pictures and they tried to dent it.. my shirt was next to another Leeds shirt that had the official name set and you could tell the difference easily.. I’ll never buy or sell to them again
As someone who has his own Sports kit printing business I can confirm your thoughts on this shirt are 100% correct, I have replaced many 'Brands' Logos on old shirts at customers requests and it's very easy to do, but printing over the top will always give you away, you'll never get the exact size etc due to the Shirts natural shrinking or expanding with wear. CFS were completely transparent in the old days but with the growth in business i've found more and more that the things you describe in this video are being done. Like you I'm a shirt collector and knowing what's match ready or match worn is clear over a replica and as such should be sold as such. Great video for awareness.
Biggest red flag is that faded tag when compared to the perfect name set. Makes me think twice buying from them again, specially for their high end shirts.
It became more evident that they were doing this during Euro 2020. The amount of classic England shirts with mint condition namesets listed on the site had me questioning if they were producing/buying replica sets and pressing them to cash in on the hype, as if no one would notice. Shady stuff. I always wanted to call them out for it but I’m glad you did. I may still buy shirts from them but none with a nameset.
Yeah same here, they get good stock from random overspill from clubs like that. I don’t care enough to spend loads of money on super expensive vintage shirts, but I’d be super bummed if I did and found this out.
Really good video mate. I've used them on a number of occasions, as well as been to their stores to buy training tops and other items with tags and have generally liked their service. I can appreciate how important it is for you along with a number of other football shirts collectors to have more clarity when buying retro shirts as well as truly owning something authentic. It has definitely made me more cautious in the future when looking to possibly buy older shirts! Keep it up!
I’ve made it something to not buy nameset jerseys from any sellers. There’s no way to tell they’re authentic. It would be blind trust. Namesets aren’t hard to recreate either. I am also someone who is a nerd and picky about something being 1000% authentic. It’s a risk to buy an older jersey with a nameset.
I have been to the London Shop recently. One thing that called my attention was in the England 1990 kits. Theses kits are much valued in the market and in the shop I have seen many different England badges on them. The original kits have the England badge kind of heat pressed with a lot of high relief details, as well as the umbro logo. Some of the kits in the shop had stiched badges (that look like a reissue Umbro mande years after) and some were heat pressed but with low quality badges. When I asked one salesperson at the shop he could not give me a convincing answer. He said that kits produced in different countries have some differences, what it is true, but the kits I was comparing were all made in England. Their website lacks info and real pictures of the kits, as long as more details of them. Being at the shop in person was great because I could take a better look and you can really find some gems in their collection. The only problem is that they have much more products at their website. My advice is, try to go to the shop and take a closer look at the kit you are looking for. You can really find some original gems.
100% can confirm they print their own repro namesets on original shirts and sell them as if the namesets are original. I have even bought a shirt from them where the shirt arrived and the nameset was not only a clear and obvious fake by material etc, but not even the correct design/style. I complained and got credit back. I then realised this is evidenced by the fact that for such vintage shirts they surprisingly have a lot of stock on hand available for some shirts, for example the same player printed shirt from the 90’s available in a range of sizes. I theorise that they may have these original shirts in different sizes, then whatever size you order they will print their nameset on it when order is placed. What are the chances of having a bunch of original shirts from the 90’s in all different sizes of the same player at any one time, particularly suspicious when it is commonly the household names (because its the easiest sell/markup for them). for example once i accidentally put a duplicate order through and i received two 95/96 blackburn shearer shirts, exactly the same but when they both arrived the nameset was slightly different and you could tell it was just how they were applied (one was plain bold white, the other you could see the shirts colour/stripes bleeding through the number). It ruined my faith in them, i dont think this is the worst thing in the world but for me you pay a premium price like the ones they charge for the piece of mind that you are undoubtedly getting authentic, original products with no ifs or buts, but it is not the case with CFS anymore unfortunately
I once saw a La Palmas shirt BNWT (Brand New With Tags) posted on CFS site and when I saw the photos I couldn't believe what I saw. The tag was from an Albacete shirt!!! It was the Albacete's crest. In a Las Palmas shirt!!! They uploaded a picture of the Las Palmas shirt with Albacete's tags believe it or not. I know both shirts are Hummel brand. I emailed them and I told them "This is not a genuine article!!!". They just respond "We will look into it". Outrageous.
Interesting to see this. I collect Celtic tops, and quite familiar with original name sets etc... when CFS came to Glasgow, I noticed the sickening amount of tops with fake name-sets. I can understand why they'd do it as a business, more people want a Larsson 7 top, than a top with no name-set. But, I do have an issue with them not disclosing this information. I feel it devalues the original tops, and ultimately makes them feel tacky, rather than a collectors item.
yeah, they definitely do some shady stuff. I've had people message me after this videos and i've seen enough to conclude that they do it all across the board, your message is just another testimony.
Damn, now Im questioning whether the nameset on my sweden 2008 jersey is legit, had bought this jersey from CFS with ibra nameset. *anyone who sees this comment, do you know how to legit check a nameset?*
I have similar questions over the older Newcastle United shirts (anything pre-2006). I don’t remember many people having name sets in 1996 at all (and those that were were felt transfers that pealed off easily). Yet there are so many Shearer name sets out there on original shirts - often even printed in acrylic and lots of inconsistencies with the designs on sale at the time from the club shop.
@@liambr101 yeh check my comment above. i got one of the 90’s shearer shirts and the nameset is definitely not original. they most likely just apply reproduction namesets as the orders are processed
4:06 "now I understand that not everyone is as crazy as I am when it comes to such details..." Bro if I fucking paid more than 200 pounds for a shirt that would be fake, I would be as crazy on details as you are for fs😂😂
I thought CFS would have been more strict with the namesets and prints especially since their crazy prices, identifying if a nameset is original or not is very difficult as you said but I thought they would have experts that could but to tell the difference but maybe not but to sell even a restored shirt means they obviously don't check their shirts very well at all and there will be a some others like yours, I actually like to restore shirts myself but when I have sold those I've always stated that they are restored and shown before and after pic if I have them. Helpful video for people looking to buy of there definitely 👍
I don't mind paying for a shirt that has worn, historical value if it's described as such. But if it's being described as 'mint' then gluing, not worth a penny as far as I'm concerned. I'm glad you brought this to my attention as I was about to purchase a few shirts that would have no doubt been the same. Good job 👍
Replica kits in the early 2000s, if they had names and numbers, were purchased from the club shop. that is it. and that market was locals going to their club's games in the flesh - not tourists getting Kane 9s. in fact, commercial printing was so novel almost half were people's own names and stuff like 'PYKEY 8S IS MISSUS.' Yet their stores are full of 1997 to 2004 Arsenal shirts mostly with Henry 14 and if not, Pires or Ljungberg. The most curious thing is the most clamoured for Gunners top of the last 20 years - the Highbury farewell - goes for an even more insane amount and has a more regular variation of namesets. know why? because getting the gold font is harder than the standard white and black of most AFC tops. Lovely company! I especially like their autistic Tory staff and interviews that are about as inspiring and 'I want to watch more!' as finding out your missus is fucking someone else.
I got an Arsenal 2002/04 home kit from them a few years ago stating that it’s in 8/10 condition with only a few bobbles, when I got it the 02 sponsor was grey and cracked to pieces, I ended up getting the same shirt on eBay in 10/10 condition for half the price.
Never had a problem with them, since I've always bought unprinted shirts and also from some obscure nations or clubs, so not that iconic or expensive. It's good to have this information though, in case I someday do consider buying this kind of shirt from them.
I know for sure that the name set in many cases are made by them. I have friends that order from CFS and always received this type of name sets. For the prices, is not a good deal to buy and old jersey with fake name set. Sorry for my english, 😢
Not purchased from CFS but always tempted. I am now a bit nervous to make a purchase… I’m usually pretty savvy but to list a used product without no mention of the defects and being honest is just shady.
I’ve ordered from them numerous times and I and still a happy returning customer. I will there have been several instances of shirts coming in a different condition as described like cracks and peels in the printing and one time there was a huge rip in the sleeve. Anytime I’ve had an issue they’ve always refunded fully and cover the shipping back to the uk as well. But as you said I do wish the had a screening process for things such as nameset and patches. I’ve also heard they also apply namesets themselves to shirts to bump up there values, not sure if it’s true though.
I’m a student so I can’t afford to pay the high prices of fully authentic mint shirts, so I personally don’t mind replica kits as long as they’re done right and are of good quality. They definitely need to add more detailed descriptions about their shirts’ conditions though, I can definitely understand being upset about the shirt being tampered with if you’ve whipped out £300 for it
I’ve always wanted an Adriano 02/03 but I’ve heard too many stories of non name set jersey’s being passed of as authentic that I’ve often passed when I’ve had the opportunity
This is quite shocking considering the prices at CFS and their "100% authentic & original" claim on their product information. I was about to order a shirt at £199 from there but now I won't. Disappointed.
Well mate, this problem persists for several years already. The issue is that they may have ability to 'fix' shirts but they may not have ability to verify the authenticity of the namesets or even the shirts when sourcing from individual collectors for the vintage items. It is not common to see they made such easy mistakes on popular European shirts, but such authenticity issues happened a lot with their very niche non-European team products. In addition, when we started our business back in 2016, we used to have one supplier for nameset and patches, but we terminated the relationship with the supplier when we found some issues and also knew that CFS onboarded it and redistributed these items all over the world. You can say some people want common products but honesty/purity is also demanded by some pure collectors.
Man, I don't believe it was a mistake in the way of cheating, I think the person responsible for receiving the product was tricked due to lack of knowledge and ended up accepting that the product was original. I've been buying shirts there for about 5 years at CFS and they've always delivered quality original products to me. But I think you're right about the details.
i know im right about the details, and after doing some more research I am certain they do this on purpose. It's a clever way to make insane profits by purchasing high demand shirts with no namesets, and marking them up after applying fake namesets.
The few shirts I've bought from CFS, I honestly have no concerns with. Particularly when it was a shirt I'd previously owned. However, I started to notice how many more 1990's England shirts were suddenly appearing with player names & numbers on the back. I remember the Premier League introduced this in 1993-94 season, but couldn't recall England shirts before Euro 1996. Transpired they did have them on their 1992 kit for the Euros that year (same kit as Italia '90). However, as I've now seen, since watching this video, it appears to look like there are original shirts (wear of the label shows this), but the print is clean. As someone else has pointed out, I think they've probably done this to add value to the shirts. It's certainly something I'm now aware of and to keep an eye out for. Whilst I'm still keen to buy some genuine retro shirts, that I never got back in the day, I'm also somewhat mindful as some copies are pretty decent. I admittedly bought one from eBay, knowing what it was, and was very impressed with its quality for a £25 copy!
good video mate , cheers from Canada , Personally i have made a few purchases from cfs i spent from 2019 to 2022 about 1k , as a big advice for you and all the fans for kits that are older than 2008 and not BNWT never buy online just buy in any second hand store in your city as for modern kits i thnk CFS are great, as a end note if you can just buy KITS that are brand new with tags
This was a good video, very informative and fair. I've not had the best experience with CFS in the past. During the late 00s I started off buying from them but the first shirts I brought I had to the same with the stock photos and quality. I paid over the odds for an Aston Villa 91/92 shirt that was a medium and in good condition. What arrived was a kids size and most of the badge and sponsor pulled off and a few holes. They never responded to my email complaint and I took this as a one off and brought a few more shirts but had mixed results. Shirts were too small or too damaged but the website never clarified what condition they were in really and communication was almost non existent at times. I just found their customer care wasn't there. Years later I decided to contact them (at the time there was limited places other than ebay) to sell some good shirts. I understood the idea of it being a market/ business scenario and knew I'd sell them for a lot less then market value. However they seriously lowballed me on all offers and that was the last straw. - Original Sweden 92, Ireland 92, Croatia 96 and a few other shirts of that ilk and they offered £20 total for all shirts combined at first and about £30 in total in the end. - At the time the value of each shirt was on average £40+ each. It just felt like I was being treated like a schmuck and it put me off selling good shirts to them business wise. (A shame as I had been collecting shirts since the 90s and was happy to buy and sell at the time). I look at the prices then and now and I do get it that they are a business and need to make money but the prices are too much. Its also a collectors market too and this makes it so difficult for people to join and share in. I've personally decided to accept buying non original identical shirts now and find that I still get joy out of them. I just hope other people have better experiences with them and other companies and for the sake of it they make their website more transparent and helpful.
Oooh. This is massively shady on their part. I picked up an AC Milan 2008/09 Kaká shirt BNWT from them, and it was a Japanese market version. Now all that is fine, but they had this huge Milan drop around late October 2020, and it was then I picked up the aforementioned shirt. They had the same shirt with many players and it made me sceptical that they'd have added namesets later. Also, there have been plenty of occasions when the shirts have wear and tear and the nameset is mint, which means that the nameset were added later. They definitely add the reproduction namesets as well, because if it's an original official nameset it says in the description and if it's not the description is different. They need to massively improve their practices because it's shady stuff.
I am a Roma fan myself and that's why I always hesitate shirts form years ago. I dont trust anyone in this business enough cuz after all they want to make profit and that's an easy way to sell cheaper shirts for a lot.
Even I noticed an Arsenal fake on their website a couple of days back. It was 08/09 away kit. The placement of Arsenal badge was different on both similar jerseys.
That’s why I just set the filter to “brand new”. I like that they have a huge variety, but personally I’m not dropping over $100 for a jersey that someone else has worn
It is good to know it was at least a original shirt, even with the tampering. I guess more transparency would be the answer. But again, at least I can trust that it is real
I have been buying some past years Arsenal and Bayern shirts without name set for collection. They all have been alright and most importantly cheap, like ard 20 to 30 pound. I would never want to pay up to 100 or even 200 for a classic shirt for the reasons you mentioned
You need to know several things. As collector you should know there’s a lots of original shirt made from different places for different markets. Example. 1997 Milan shirt. In Europe came from different place and fabric is not the same as sold it in Americas made in Mexico. Also Florentina and Lazio in the 90s. CFS buy shirts from around the world. 2006 Italy shirt was so different the one who i bought in México that the one I bought in England, both in big stores and the name set also different. I know they need to change the way post the shirts, with a exact photo of the product if it has some cracks, bubbles or it’s from a different factory
just read the comments about everyone else's experience and you'll know that what you're saying has nothing to do with the video. They use fake namesets and/or logos for shirts that have a high demand, simple as that.
there is only one sample photo for each shirt, and you must figure out how its looking based on condition description. if you saw that puma logos maybe you wouldnt buy that shirt
Exactly. They have plenty of Dortmund 1995 96 shirts and the picture they use for most of them has a nameset on the back (Möller I think) which is just weird because most of the shirts doesn’t even have a nameset. The one I bought also had a lot of ugly marker stains on it without it being mentioned in the description.
As a collector of Leeds United Match, worn and match issued shirts i have always been wary of sellers. Classic football shirts have a Jacob Burns match issued shirt for sale. I am dubious about this shirt as it is XL, and at that time, the shirts were baggy. I'm pretty sure Burns was never XL as he was 5ft 10" but slightly built.
So this is for printed shirts right , not for the option where you select not printed . Because i order two shirts and came with tags . Also searched them up . And came with all the right logos .
ridiculously overpriced nowadays. When they first started they had some tagline to do with affordable shirts. But of course people will still pay huge prices for shirts where with a little more research you can find them a lot cheaper
Did CFS offer you a refund or a reduction? What was CFS response. As market leaders I’m sure they’d want to put it right with you but you don’t mention any response from them? I agree they need more shirt condition detail within their listings and less who wore what when they won such and such. Collectors know that but garment condition details are critical!
i think they should send detailed quality control photo like most shoe sellers (fake/real) do, but lucky for me all my kits iv gotten have been extremely good.
I bought the italy shirt with the original printings and after 1 wash, all the logos faded away. The kit is a disaster, I almost thought it was fake. The fit is horrendous and the printing washes out incredibly easy after one wash. What CFS done here is basically keep the value of the jersey far longer
I remember buying a portugal jersey with tags from cfs when i first got into jerseys, checking it now I realize that the tags are for a different jersey lol
Too bad that some details are off here. I know too well, how such small things can be really bothersome for a collector. While I love CFS (although finding deals in Brexit times becomes increasingly hard), I always felt that they are rarely giving you all the information on the shirt itself. I even think they are at times re-using old pictures and are very lax in describing every flaw. In addition, they have managed already twice to send me wrong shirt. Esp over the last two years, I more and more got the feeling that CFS is getting quite sloppy.
1:52 I’m pretty sure those puma logos are from a City shirt I own as it looks the same colour and same bubble pattern, 20/21 season I think. Probably official stuff but not right kit.
I visited their shop in Manchester a few weeks back when I was there for a few days. It was great to see some iconic shirts on display but the prices for most shirts were a total rip off. I will still use them for more recent stuff and only when they have 20% off but for any retro/vintage shirts I will go elsewhere.
Well, I would be pissed as well, as I do pay attention to such details. I wonder how long will the logos and the name will last after some washes and how it will look like
Don't know if they would restore that, you see a lot of shirts on the site with terrible puma or adidas logos, even on valuable shirts you can sometimes clearly see the damage. I feel like if they tampared with yours, why wouldn't they tamper with all rare kits in bad condition?
It was mentioned as a Feature of the shirt "Original Style print". Probably was the CFS themselves who printed the name set. Usually they do a good quality print, but in this case was a mess. Anyway It was in the description of the shirt.
@@romashirts4661 CFS FAQ "OFFICIAL STYLE PRINTING Years of painstaking research and experience has gone into the production of our official style print to ensure it is of the exact same size, colour and material as that applied to classic shirts over the past 30 years. We work with the original manufacturer to produce official Lextra felt Premiership print and we're proud to be able to assist in continuing the work and traditions they began decades ago. Note that this is limited to player names and numbers. We do not reproduce shirts, sponsors, or club and brand badges."
In a market like this, it's always better to be honest, particularly in a market full of fakes because if you lie even once and a video like this appears, less people will buy at least the expensive parts of the shirt, just be damn honest, especially when you're that big in the market. Trust is such a major part, I wonder what Ellis Platten of AwayDays makes of this as they sponsor his channel often. 🤔🤔🤔
The Puma 2006 Italy Home kit replica version or any fake or replica has the italy country logo on the center embroidered. The Puma 2006 Italy Home kit player issue logo is heat pressed not stitched. The player issue name set was sold by Puma. The matchworn name sets were only sold in Italy, I own a Del Piero original player issue name set by Puma with the number but without the name, including the matchworn name set for Del Piero with the name and number. This matchworn name set for Del Piero #7 won't be found again. All other name sets sold are replicas not originals. There's a clear difference with the size and length when comparing the puma player issue name set 06 and the matchworn name set. Whereas the Puma name set is actually shorter than the matchworn name set. The replica name sets are long not short in size. The player issue 06 home kit has clear, noticeable signs of the black lines on front of the shirt plus the back and to the sides. When you look inside the shirt the black lines are also visible and there's a puma tag that shows a number coded to it with a blue tag marked next to black spaces. Replicas were all known to be made in Romania. Player issue kits were only made in Thailand.
The Puma logos are so poorly restored, there is no way CFS wouldn't have noticed. They've clearly just hoped somebody would buy it without noticing it's been 'refurbished'. I'm all for refurbishing kits but it should be to the highest standard at that price, and It should be sold as refurbished.
I have this same issue with every shirt I look for. Personally I find extremely difficult to find legit printings, and I used to trust CFS blindly, cause they're market leaders right? One day I found a Xavi 2003/2005 jersey with a UCL printing (no LFP printed on top of the number) and got me curious because those weren't available at the time. Of course they charged like €250 and the only sentence describing the print was "original style print" instead of "official lettering" or so. So I never purchased anymore from them considering the ridiculous pricetags. Nevertheless I still consider them the place to look for vintage jerseys. Greetings from Chile, great video
I believe what they want to do it's to give the shirt a second life and cleaning the numbers and others does that. I don't think they do that with a bad intention
that's pretty naive, because they're hiding information and selling it off as mint condition. They don't even use the picture of the item they sell on their website.
Nah dude. You’re tripping. They know exactly what they are doing. It’s really disgusting selling authentic shirts with fake namesets and not mentioning that to the buyer before selling it. Imo it loses all of the shirt’s value. I’m not the one to resell my kits but somebody that does is basically buying a worthless jersey if it has a fake nameset on it imo. No collector would want to buy that. If somebody had a authentic Real Madrid Dragon kit but a fake Ronaldo name set printed on it, that shirt is basically worthless to a collector.
Where is the best place to buy these shirts. I don't mind them being fake cos they are very good copies. I just know we can get them cheaper but where from? Cheers
So dissapointing coming from such a high reputed site. I have years buying from them but bnwt so far. I have seen in the comments if you contacted CFS after this and what was their response. Cheers!
Very odd been buying jerseys from them since 2017 and only had an issue once with a ac Milan kaka kit with tags wore the kit and hand washed the bwin sponsor crumbled and came off.
Mate, I have a question theres any way to fix the puma logos y have similar issue with the ac milan x pleasures jersey and it doesn't look bad at all but I want to check of I can fix that
I've always thought they were the best in business, but that's clearly because I was only purchasing brand new items from them. Even once I got one of the shirts stolen by my country customs and they sent me a new one for free. That was really nice of them. But this is really shady and not cool.
I was thinking about buying some 19-20 Ronaldo and Ibrahimovic jerseys have you experienced any issues with newer jerseys that have namesets or just the retro ones, watching this makes me unsure about buying them
Ye i dont get how shirts can be player issue yet a small the player is 6ft 4 wears a large ok so not player worn but would never be issued to that player as he never wears small
£300 for a shirt! Looked at that site for curiosity's sake and wouldn't go near any of those shirts. You're right to demand detailing (I know yours wasn't £300, I watched properly!) considering how they market themselves.
@@romashirts4661 all good, I have over 150 shirts amigo, I myself am very particular of my shirts. I have 1 main source from where I get my kits and select others. If you're have kits that you're interested in willing to buy/trade, please let me know. I myself am always searching for Kits aswell. So if you got any let me know.
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Well, this just got a bunch of views, so I figured I'd write a comment to address what appears will be a FAQ: What did CFS have to say?
Despite how bad the the Puma logos (and potentially the nameset) are now in hindsight, at the time I got the shirt I blindly trusted them and just hung the shirt. I hadn't realised until a friend came over and I showed him. At that point even if I was in time to return the shirt, given my distance to the UK and the hassles of paying and organising the returns (done it before with them, wasn't in the mood to do it again), I took the loss and kept the shirt. Returning the shirt also doesn't really solve much, and isn't the point of the video! They would've just re-uploaded it like they did with previous returns i've had with them. This video is more so about their lack of clarity in photos and product descriptions. If an absolute nerd like me hadn't bought it, they would've happily sold this for an absurd price to someone else and he/she would've never found out. Maybe i'm just cynical, but i've seen plenty of shirts on their site i would've bought if they didn't have dodgy looking namesets. With the amount of blind trust they have in the space, combined with the prices they charge, the responsibility is on them to be transparent. This purchase was long before I started this channel, which is something I am doing to help others by using info i've learned along the way of searching for shirts i love. Like I said in the video, I'd still trust CFS in the space, but they need to do better, and if you're looking to buy older shirts, ask for more info, because what happened to me can happen to you too. If your takeaway is that I'm somehow the villain in this, do as you please, but very strange!
Appreciate what you're saying, but you haven't actually said what CFS had to say on the matter.
What did they have to say? I understand what you've gone through and what has happened, and it's far from ideal but what did they say about it?
So what did they have to say? Not defending them, but you posted a "FAQ" with a question you're not even answering.
@@lumpjaw4276 most people got it
Did you complain. What was outcome. Update before a buy from them. But in a way. Does any 1 need the hassle to have to do all the checks they should have done
Personally i have made a few purchases from cfs in the past 2/3 years, with my 2 most premium shirts being a gerrard 07/08 lfc shirt, and a zidane 04/05 madrid shirt. ive always felt they are the most reliable in the business and have never had any issues myself, however i do dislike their use of the same images for multiple listings of a shirt, aswell as their very generalised descriptions and lack of close-up shots of any pulls, nicks etc. on the whole this video definately made me think a little more about what im buying from them in the future
Informative video - well done. As a longtime Vancouver Whitecaps fan (1978 to be exact) who also has a deep interest in football kits, I challenged CFS on a posting for what was claimed to be an authentic Whitecaps team shirt. The shirt they posted on the CFS site in no way resembled any kit I have ever seen worn by the team, or fans. The design was wrong, I had never seen another shirt like it anywhere else, and even the style of Admiral logo didn't fit with the era and was never used on any Whitecaps shirt. As a close watcher of all things Admiral, I noticed the logo wasn't quite right - the hoop at the top of the trademark was slightly too large. I mentioned my concerns to CFS on a number of occasions and they took down the shirt while they said their experts would look into my claims. Then they re-posted the shirt again, claiming the shirt was original, in their estimation. I then challenged them on two other occasions, sending them examples of photos showing authentic shirts from the era in question. On my last enquiry - a few months ago - CFS replied the shirt was, again, claimed to be authentic, but cut the price in half, and added information on the website description, posting that the shirt was not one widely used. This episode has detracted greatly from my trust in CFS. My suspicion is they unknowingly purchased the shirt for a premium, thinking they could re-sell it at a much higher price, and are hoping to cut their losses by listing it for much less than what they initially asked for.
thank you for this insightful comment. I completely understand, I had a similar incident with a Roma shirt that had a peculiar nameset. I didn't mention it in the video (perhaps I should have, but I wanted to focus on this Italy shirt). Anyways, that time I told them that the Roma shirt on their site had a wrong colored nameset for the jersey. They responded they did research, and found it was worn one time and never got back to me. The shirt then disappeared from the site, and was reuploaded a while later. I always wondered, why tell me they did research and confirm it was worn in a single game, but not specify the game. It would've been the ultimate proof as I could've checked myself. Instead they never specified, kept it vague, removed product, and reuploaded later. Just looks like they were hoping to send me away. The fact that something like that happened to you too goes to says a lot.
If the shirt was “not widely used” it would be worth a lot more! Why would they cut the price in half instead? Lol back in the day these companies could get away with lies, but not anymore I’m glad people will call them out. I’ve bought from them before, will definitely think twice before spending big money on something “rare” from them.
@@SunnyDiegoProduction very strange to find another whitecaps fan. I'm from ireland but supported whitecaps since 2016. Loved it since
They once brought an old Leeds shirt from me it wasn’t In great condition however it was in their Manchester store they added a fake name set to the shirt and tried to charge £85 when I asked them about it they told me it wasn’t the same shirt I checked the tag inside of the shirt and it had the same marking as my shirt I shown them pictures and they tried to dent it.. my shirt was next to another Leeds shirt that had the official name set and you could tell the difference easily.. I’ll never buy or sell to them again
As someone who has his own Sports kit printing business I can confirm your thoughts on this shirt are 100% correct, I have replaced many 'Brands' Logos on old shirts at customers requests and it's very easy to do, but printing over the top will always give you away, you'll never get the exact size etc due to the Shirts natural shrinking or expanding with wear. CFS were completely transparent in the old days but with the growth in business i've found more and more that the things you describe in this video are being done. Like you I'm a shirt collector and knowing what's match ready or match worn is clear over a replica and as such should be sold as such. Great video for awareness.
Comments like these are great, should be slammed in the faces of all the devils advocates' out there who clearly have no skin in the game
Biggest red flag is that faded tag when compared to the perfect name set. Makes me think twice buying from them again, specially for their high end shirts.
They print them themselves 😂 nothing shady about that
It became more evident that they were doing this during Euro 2020. The amount of classic England shirts with mint condition namesets listed on the site had me questioning if they were producing/buying replica sets and pressing them to cash in on the hype, as if no one would notice. Shady stuff. I always wanted to call them out for it but I’m glad you did. I may still buy shirts from them but none with a nameset.
I buy their BNIB/w tags overstock stuff, which is always great.
I think the whole world of really old shirts is super difficult.
Same
Yeah same here, they get good stock from random overspill from clubs like that. I don’t care enough to spend loads of money on super expensive vintage shirts, but I’d be super bummed if I did and found this out.
Yeah, I find the BN w/ tags deadstock tops/shorts/tracksuits to be very good and affordable gear for working out in personally
Really good video mate. I've used them on a number of occasions, as well as been to their stores to buy training tops and other items with tags and have generally liked their service. I can appreciate how important it is for you along with a number of other football shirts collectors to have more clarity when buying retro shirts as well as truly owning something authentic. It has definitely made me more cautious in the future when looking to possibly buy older shirts! Keep it up!
I’ve made it something to not buy nameset jerseys from any sellers. There’s no way to tell they’re authentic. It would be blind trust. Namesets aren’t hard to recreate either. I am also someone who is a nerd and picky about something being 1000% authentic. It’s a risk to buy an older jersey with a nameset.
I have been to the London Shop recently. One thing that called my attention was in the England 1990 kits. Theses kits are much valued in the market and in the shop I have seen many different England badges on them. The original kits have the England badge kind of heat pressed with a lot of high relief details, as well as the umbro logo. Some of the kits in the shop had stiched badges (that look like a reissue Umbro mande years after) and some were heat pressed but with low quality badges. When I asked one salesperson at the shop he could not give me a convincing answer.
He said that kits produced in different countries have some differences, what it is true, but the kits I was comparing were all made in England.
Their website lacks info and real pictures of the kits, as long as more details of them.
Being at the shop in person was great because I could take a better look and you can really find some gems in their collection. The only problem is that they have much more products at their website.
My advice is, try to go to the shop and take a closer look at the kit you are looking for. You can really find some original gems.
100% can confirm they print their own repro namesets on original shirts and sell them as if the namesets are original. I have even bought a shirt from them where the shirt arrived and the nameset was not only a clear and obvious fake by material etc, but not even the correct design/style. I complained and got credit back. I then realised this is evidenced by the fact that for such vintage shirts they surprisingly have a lot of stock on hand available for some shirts, for example the same player printed shirt from the 90’s available in a range of sizes. I theorise that they may have these original shirts in different sizes, then whatever size you order they will print their nameset on it when order is placed. What are the chances of having a bunch of original shirts from the 90’s in all different sizes of the same player at any one time, particularly suspicious when it is commonly the household names (because its the easiest sell/markup for them). for example once i accidentally put a duplicate order through and i received two 95/96 blackburn shearer shirts, exactly the same but when they both arrived the nameset was slightly different and you could tell it was just how they were applied (one was plain bold white, the other you could see the shirts colour/stripes bleeding through the number). It ruined my faith in them, i dont think this is the worst thing in the world but for me you pay a premium price like the ones they charge for the piece of mind that you are undoubtedly getting authentic, original products with no ifs or buts, but it is not the case with CFS anymore unfortunately
spot on, shame
I once saw a La Palmas shirt BNWT (Brand New With Tags) posted on CFS site and when I saw the photos I couldn't believe what I saw. The tag was from an Albacete shirt!!! It was the Albacete's crest. In a Las Palmas shirt!!! They uploaded a picture of the Las Palmas shirt with Albacete's tags believe it or not. I know both shirts are Hummel brand. I emailed them and I told them "This is not a genuine article!!!". They just respond "We will look into it". Outrageous.
@@ernestomartinez4090 cry baby getting freaked out over tags.
Bro they sell thousands of kits they will obviously make mistakes
Interesting to see this. I collect Celtic tops, and quite familiar with original name sets etc... when CFS came to Glasgow, I noticed the sickening amount of tops with fake name-sets. I can understand why they'd do it as a business, more people want a Larsson 7 top, than a top with no name-set. But, I do have an issue with them not disclosing this information. I feel it devalues the original tops, and ultimately makes them feel tacky, rather than a collectors item.
yeah, they definitely do some shady stuff. I've had people message me after this videos and i've seen enough to conclude that they do it all across the board, your message is just another testimony.
Damn, now Im questioning whether the nameset on my sweden 2008 jersey is legit, had bought this jersey from CFS with ibra nameset. *anyone who sees this comment, do you know how to legit check a nameset?*
I have similar questions over the older Newcastle United shirts (anything pre-2006). I don’t remember many people having name sets in 1996 at all (and those that were were felt transfers that pealed off easily). Yet there are so many Shearer name sets out there on original shirts - often even printed in acrylic and lots of inconsistencies with the designs on sale at the time from the club shop.
@@liambr101 yeh check my comment above. i got one of the 90’s shearer shirts and the nameset is definitely not original. they most likely just apply reproduction namesets as the orders are processed
4:06 "now I understand that not everyone is as crazy as I am when it comes to such details..."
Bro if I fucking paid more than 200 pounds for a shirt that would be fake, I would be as crazy on details as you are for fs😂😂
I thought CFS would have been more strict with the namesets and prints especially since their crazy prices, identifying if a nameset is original or not is very difficult as you said but I thought they would have experts that could but to tell the difference but maybe not but to sell even a restored shirt means they obviously don't check their shirts very well at all and there will be a some others like yours, I actually like to restore shirts myself but when I have sold those I've always stated that they are restored and shown before and after pic if I have them. Helpful video for people looking to buy of there definitely 👍
I don't mind paying for a shirt that has worn, historical value if it's described as such. But if it's being described as 'mint' then gluing, not worth a penny as far as I'm concerned. I'm glad you brought this to my attention as I was about to purchase a few shirts that would have no doubt been the same. Good job 👍
I'm pretty sure they buy name sets and numbers and put them on rare shirts. Easy way to add some value of the shirts.
Replica kits in the early 2000s, if they had names and numbers, were purchased from the club shop. that is it. and that market was locals going to their club's games in the flesh - not tourists getting Kane 9s. in fact, commercial printing was so novel almost half were people's own names and stuff like 'PYKEY 8S IS MISSUS.'
Yet their stores are full of 1997 to 2004 Arsenal shirts mostly with Henry 14 and if not, Pires or Ljungberg.
The most curious thing is the most clamoured for Gunners top of the last 20 years - the Highbury farewell - goes for an even more insane amount and has a more regular variation of namesets. know why? because getting the gold font is harder than the standard white and black of most AFC tops.
Lovely company! I especially like their autistic Tory staff and interviews that are about as inspiring and 'I want to watch more!' as finding out your missus is fucking someone else.
I got an Arsenal 2002/04 home kit from them a few years ago stating that it’s in 8/10 condition with only a few bobbles, when I got it the 02 sponsor was grey and cracked to pieces, I ended up getting the same shirt on eBay in 10/10 condition for half the price.
Never had a problem with them, since I've always bought unprinted shirts and also from some obscure nations or clubs, so not that iconic or expensive. It's good to have this information though, in case I someday do consider buying this kind of shirt from them.
I know for sure that the name set in many cases are made by them. I have friends that order from CFS and always received this type of name sets. For the prices, is not a good deal to buy and old jersey with fake name set.
Sorry for my english, 😢
Not purchased from CFS but always tempted. I am now a bit nervous to make a purchase… I’m usually pretty savvy but to list a used product without no mention of the defects and being honest is just shady.
I’ve bought from them numerous times, never had any issues
I’ve ordered from them numerous times and I and still a happy returning customer. I will there have been several instances of shirts coming in a different condition as described like cracks and peels in the printing and one time there was a huge rip in the sleeve. Anytime I’ve had an issue they’ve always refunded fully and cover the shipping back to the uk as well. But as you said I do wish the had a screening process for things such as nameset and patches. I’ve also heard they also apply namesets themselves to shirts to bump up there values, not sure if it’s true though.
I’m a student so I can’t afford to pay the high prices of fully authentic mint shirts, so I personally don’t mind replica kits as long as they’re done right and are of good quality. They definitely need to add more detailed descriptions about their shirts’ conditions though, I can definitely understand being upset about the shirt being tampered with if you’ve whipped out £300 for it
The rubber mat on the heat press for the vinyl transfer left the waffle marks on the gold puma logos and also applied at the wrong heat hence shrunk
I’ve always wanted an Adriano 02/03 but I’ve heard too many stories of non name set jersey’s being passed of as authentic that I’ve often passed when I’ve had the opportunity
My favorite shop to buy Sporting goods since 2020, whenever I have an issue they always give you something and very cool with any issue
This is quite shocking considering the prices at CFS and their "100% authentic & original" claim on their product information. I was about to order a shirt at £199 from there but now I won't. Disappointed.
Great video. Never thought about it in this much detail but when you want an original this is key. Thanks for the valuable information
I’ve purchased a lot of older kits and new ones and I have never had a problem
Well mate, this problem persists for several years already. The issue is that they may have ability to 'fix' shirts but they may not have ability to verify the authenticity of the namesets or even the shirts when sourcing from individual collectors for the vintage items. It is not common to see they made such easy mistakes on popular European shirts, but such authenticity issues happened a lot with their very niche non-European team products. In addition, when we started our business back in 2016, we used to have one supplier for nameset and patches, but we terminated the relationship with the supplier when we found some issues and also knew that CFS onboarded it and redistributed these items all over the world. You can say some people want common products but honesty/purity is also demanded by some pure collectors.
Man, I don't believe it was a mistake in the way of cheating, I think the person responsible for receiving the product was tricked due to lack of knowledge and ended up accepting that the product was original. I've been buying shirts there for about 5 years at CFS and they've always delivered quality original products to me. But I think you're right about the details.
i know im right about the details, and after doing some more research I am certain they do this on purpose. It's a clever way to make insane profits by purchasing high demand shirts with no namesets, and marking them up after applying fake namesets.
The few shirts I've bought from CFS, I honestly have no concerns with. Particularly when it was a shirt I'd previously owned. However, I started to notice how many more 1990's England shirts were suddenly appearing with player names & numbers on the back. I remember the Premier League introduced this in 1993-94 season, but couldn't recall England shirts before Euro 1996. Transpired they did have them on their 1992 kit for the Euros that year (same kit as Italia '90).
However, as I've now seen, since watching this video, it appears to look like there are original shirts (wear of the label shows this), but the print is clean. As someone else has pointed out, I think they've probably done this to add value to the shirts. It's certainly something I'm now aware of and to keep an eye out for.
Whilst I'm still keen to buy some genuine retro shirts, that I never got back in the day, I'm also somewhat mindful as some copies are pretty decent. I admittedly bought one from eBay, knowing what it was, and was very impressed with its quality for a £25 copy!
good video mate , cheers from Canada , Personally i have made a few purchases from cfs i spent from 2019 to 2022 about 1k , as a big advice for you and all the fans for kits that are older than 2008 and not BNWT never buy online just buy in any second hand store in your city as for modern kits i thnk CFS are great, as a end note if you can just buy KITS that are brand new with tags
This was a good video, very informative and fair. I've not had the best experience with CFS in the past. During the late 00s I started off buying from them but the first shirts I brought I had to the same with the stock photos and quality. I paid over the odds for an Aston Villa 91/92 shirt that was a medium and in good condition. What arrived was a kids size and most of the badge and sponsor pulled off and a few holes. They never responded to my email complaint and I took this as a one off and brought a few more shirts but had mixed results. Shirts were too small or too damaged but the website never clarified what condition they were in really and communication was almost non existent at times. I just found their customer care wasn't there.
Years later I decided to contact them (at the time there was limited places other than ebay) to sell some good shirts. I understood the idea of it being a market/ business scenario and knew I'd sell them for a lot less then market value. However they seriously lowballed me on all offers and that was the last straw. - Original Sweden 92, Ireland 92, Croatia 96 and a few other shirts of that ilk and they offered £20 total for all shirts combined at first and about £30 in total in the end. - At the time the value of each shirt was on average £40+ each.
It just felt like I was being treated like a schmuck and it put me off selling good shirts to them business wise. (A shame as I had been collecting shirts since the 90s and was happy to buy and sell at the time).
I look at the prices then and now and I do get it that they are a business and need to make money but the prices are too much. Its also a collectors market too and this makes it so difficult for people to join and share in.
I've personally decided to accept buying non original identical shirts now and find that I still get joy out of them. I just hope other people have better experiences with them and other companies and for the sake of it they make their website more transparent and helpful.
Oooh. This is massively shady on their part. I picked up an AC Milan 2008/09 Kaká shirt BNWT from them, and it was a Japanese market version. Now all that is fine, but they had this huge Milan drop around late October 2020, and it was then I picked up the aforementioned shirt. They had the same shirt with many players and it made me sceptical that they'd have added namesets later.
Also, there have been plenty of occasions when the shirts have wear and tear and the nameset is mint, which means that the nameset were added later. They definitely add the reproduction namesets as well, because if it's an original official nameset it says in the description and if it's not the description is different.
They need to massively improve their practices because it's shady stuff.
I am a Roma fan myself and that's why I always hesitate shirts form years ago. I dont trust anyone in this business enough cuz after all they want to make profit and that's an easy way to sell cheaper shirts for a lot.
This is very interesting thank you . They should mention if a shirt has been reconditioned
why did i see this after ordering a shirt
Even I noticed an Arsenal fake on their website a couple of days back. It was 08/09 away kit. The placement of Arsenal badge was different on both similar jerseys.
CFS give you the option to ask for pics of everything on a specific shirt. I'm parionoid af but that service has been useful to me.
I had an original 2006 kit I gave away to an ex. Beautiful kit. I want to get the away version to makeup for the loss.
That’s why I just set the filter to “brand new”. I like that they have a huge variety, but personally I’m not dropping over $100 for a jersey that someone else has worn
It is good to know it was at least a original shirt, even with the tampering. I guess more transparency would be the answer. But again, at least I can trust that it is real
You realize people also sell shirts to classic football shirts as well. Therefore it stands to reason that someone probably sold this to cfs.
I have been buying some past years Arsenal and Bayern shirts without name set for collection. They all have been alright and most importantly cheap, like ard 20 to 30 pound. I would never want to pay up to 100 or even 200 for a classic shirt for the reasons you mentioned
You need to know several things. As collector you should know there’s a lots of original shirt made from different places for different markets. Example. 1997 Milan shirt. In Europe came from different place and fabric is not the same as sold it in Americas made in Mexico. Also Florentina and Lazio in the 90s. CFS buy shirts from around the world. 2006 Italy shirt was so different the one who i bought in México that the one I bought in England, both in big stores and the name set also different. I know they need to change the way post the shirts, with a exact photo of the product if it has some cracks, bubbles or it’s from a different factory
just read the comments about everyone else's experience and you'll know that what you're saying has nothing to do with the video. They use fake namesets and/or logos for shirts that have a high demand, simple as that.
there is only one sample photo for each shirt, and you must figure out how its looking based on condition description. if you saw that puma logos maybe you wouldnt buy that shirt
they must add exact photos for each shirts
Exactly. They have plenty of Dortmund 1995 96 shirts and the picture they use for most of them has a nameset on the back (Möller I think) which is just weird because most of the shirts doesn’t even have a nameset. The one I bought also had a lot of ugly marker stains on it without it being mentioned in the description.
Was in the store a couple weeks ago,bought a Real Madrid shirt great quality,great price I’m happy
As a collector of Leeds United Match, worn and match issued shirts i have always been wary of sellers. Classic football shirts have a Jacob Burns match issued shirt for sale. I am dubious about this shirt as it is XL, and at that time, the shirts were baggy. I'm pretty sure Burns was never XL as he was 5ft 10" but slightly built.
So this is for printed shirts right , not for the option where you select not printed . Because i order two shirts and came with tags . Also searched them up . And came with all the right logos .
Personally never had any issue with them but then again I tend to buy BNIB shirts
ridiculously overpriced nowadays. When they first started they had some tagline to do with affordable shirts. But of course people will still pay huge prices for shirts where with a little more research you can find them a lot cheaper
Did CFS offer you a refund or a reduction? What was CFS response. As market leaders I’m sure they’d want to put it right with you but you don’t mention any response from them? I agree they need more shirt condition detail within their listings and less who wore what when they won such and such. Collectors know that but garment condition details are critical!
i think they should send detailed quality control photo like most shoe sellers (fake/real) do, but lucky for me all my kits iv gotten have been extremely good.
I bought the italy shirt with the original printings and after 1 wash, all the logos faded away. The kit is a disaster, I almost thought it was fake. The fit is horrendous and the printing washes out incredibly easy after one wash. What CFS done here is basically keep the value of the jersey far longer
I remember buying a portugal jersey with tags from cfs when i first got into jerseys, checking it now I realize that the tags are for a different jersey lol
Too bad that some details are off here. I know too well, how such small things can be really bothersome for a collector.
While I love CFS (although finding deals in Brexit times becomes increasingly hard), I always felt that they are rarely giving you all the information on the shirt itself. I even think they are at times re-using old pictures and are very lax in describing every flaw. In addition, they have managed already twice to send me wrong shirt. Esp over the last two years, I more and more got the feeling that CFS is getting quite sloppy.
sloppy pretty much sums them up these days
1:52 I’m pretty sure those puma logos are from a City shirt I own as it looks the same colour and same bubble pattern, 20/21 season I think. Probably official stuff but not right kit.
If you've heard of them, what do you think of topvintagefootballshirts and rb-jerseys?
CFS put fresh namesets on nearly every kit they sell. They don’t state this anywhere
If you go to one of their stores you can see so many sketchy shirts they’re a total rip off
I visited their shop in Manchester a few weeks back when I was there for a few days. It was great to see some iconic shirts on display but the prices for most shirts were a total rip off.
I will still use them for more recent stuff and only when they have 20% off but for any retro/vintage shirts I will go elsewhere.
Beside classic football, where can I get those vintage jersey for cheap?
They make some bold claims on their site, however, as with anything it’s always buyer beware.
Well, I would be pissed as well, as I do pay attention to such details. I wonder how long will the logos and the name will last after some washes and how it will look like
Don't know if they would restore that, you see a lot of shirts on the site with terrible puma or adidas logos, even on valuable shirts you can sometimes clearly see the damage. I feel like if they tampared with yours, why wouldn't they tamper with all rare kits in bad condition?
It was mentioned as a Feature of the shirt "Original Style print". Probably was the CFS themselves who printed the name set. Usually they do a good quality print, but in this case was a mess. Anyway It was in the description of the shirt.
original style print is the excuse? Sounds more like a "hope they don't catch on"
@@romashirts4661
CFS FAQ
"OFFICIAL STYLE PRINTING
Years of painstaking research and experience has gone into the production of our official style print to ensure it is of the exact same size, colour and material as that applied to classic shirts over the past 30 years. We work with the original manufacturer to produce official Lextra felt Premiership print and we're proud to be able to assist in continuing the work and traditions they began decades ago.
Note that this is limited to player names and numbers. We do not reproduce shirts, sponsors, or club and brand badges."
In a market like this, it's always better to be honest, particularly in a market full of fakes because if you lie even once and a video like this appears, less people will buy at least the expensive parts of the shirt, just be damn honest, especially when you're that big in the market. Trust is such a major part, I wonder what Ellis Platten of AwayDays makes of this as they sponsor his channel often. 🤔🤔🤔
The Puma 2006 Italy Home kit replica version or any fake or replica has the italy country logo on the center embroidered. The Puma 2006 Italy Home kit player issue logo is heat pressed not stitched. The player issue name set was sold by Puma. The matchworn name sets were only sold in Italy, I own a Del Piero original player issue name set by Puma with the number but without the name, including the matchworn name set for Del Piero with the name and number. This matchworn name set for Del Piero #7 won't be found again. All other name sets sold are replicas not originals.
There's a clear difference with the size and length when comparing the puma player issue name set 06 and the matchworn name set. Whereas the Puma name set is actually shorter than the matchworn name set. The replica name sets are long not short in size.
The player issue 06 home kit has clear, noticeable signs of the black lines on front of the shirt plus the back and to the sides. When you look inside the shirt the black lines are also visible and there's a puma tag that shows a number coded to it with a blue tag marked next to black spaces. Replicas were all known to be made in Romania. Player issue kits were only made in Thailand.
The reason you just get one off DHgate for a tenner
The Puma logos are so poorly restored, there is no way CFS wouldn't have noticed. They've clearly just hoped somebody would buy it without noticing it's been 'refurbished'. I'm all for refurbishing kits but it should be to the highest standard at that price, and It should be sold as refurbished.
I have this same issue with every shirt I look for. Personally I find extremely difficult to find legit printings, and I used to trust CFS blindly, cause they're market leaders right? One day I found a Xavi 2003/2005 jersey with a UCL printing (no LFP printed on top of the number) and got me curious because those weren't available at the time. Of course they charged like €250 and the only sentence describing the print was "original style print" instead of "official lettering" or so. So I never purchased anymore from them considering the ridiculous pricetags. Nevertheless I still consider them the place to look for vintage jerseys. Greetings from Chile, great video
any suggestions where I can find a decent replica? Im not a fan of original versions due to these experiences...
I believe what they want to do it's to give the shirt a second life and cleaning the numbers and others does that.
I don't think they do that with a bad intention
that's pretty naive, because they're hiding information and selling it off as mint condition. They don't even use the picture of the item they sell on their website.
Nah dude. You’re tripping. They know exactly what they are doing. It’s really disgusting selling authentic shirts with fake namesets and not mentioning that to the buyer before selling it. Imo it loses all of the shirt’s value. I’m not the one to resell my kits but somebody that does is basically buying a worthless jersey if it has a fake nameset on it imo. No collector would want to buy that.
If somebody had a authentic Real Madrid Dragon kit but a fake Ronaldo name set printed on it, that shirt is basically worthless to a collector.
So, what did Classic Football Shirts have to say?
if the base shirt is original and if the repairs are reversible i dont mind it
Recently say loads of Ben Arfa Newcastle kits in every size, I don’t think any of them are authentic names.
It’s definitely by their own design.
The 10 looked crazy seperated and bronze
great video...what was their response?
Where is the best place to buy these shirts. I don't mind them being fake cos they are very good copies. I just know we can get them cheaper but where from? Cheers
That sucks bro.
I normally order just bnib shirts at the end of the season from them but this really sucks
So dissapointing coming from such a high reputed site. I have years buying from them but bnwt so far. I have seen in the comments if you contacted CFS after this and what was their response.
Cheers!
I really do care about those details as well😞
Very odd been buying jerseys from them since 2017 and only had an issue once with a ac Milan kaka kit with tags wore the kit and hand washed the bwin sponsor crumbled and came off.
How do you buy soccer jerseys on classic football shirts I'm from united states
Do we need to have UK money or United States money or both?
It's so poor. Us Fans truly will spend our money on kits but people will just take your money
Mate, I have a question theres any way to fix the puma logos y have similar issue with the ac milan x pleasures jersey and it doesn't look bad at all but I want to check of I can fix that
I've always thought they were the best in business, but that's clearly because I was only purchasing brand new items from them. Even once I got one of the shirts stolen by my country customs and they sent me a new one for free. That was really nice of them. But this is really shady and not cool.
They restore vintage jerseys and I think they keep stocks of the plain kit in order to customize them and sell them for more
I was thinking about buying some 19-20 Ronaldo and Ibrahimovic jerseys have you experienced any issues with newer jerseys that have namesets or just the retro ones, watching this makes me unsure about buying them
I recently purchased an Ibrahimovic jersey and all I can say is that I am not satisfied with what I received as the name set is not aligned!
Only got 2 shirts from them a Northampton Town 2009/10 (Northampton fan) was £40
Norwich 2010/2011 £20
so then where should i buy retro kits?
I was about to ask the same
Did I just find ItalianStallion alt channel lol.
Ye i dont get how shirts can be player issue yet a small the player is 6ft 4 wears a large ok so not player worn but would never be issued to that player as he never wears small
£300 for a shirt! Looked at that site for curiosity's sake and wouldn't go near any of those shirts. You're right to demand detailing (I know yours wasn't £300, I watched properly!) considering how they market themselves.
Hey man, I have a 2006 Gattuso 8 kit brand new with tags 4 Star not 3 if your interested
thanks man but im not interested in a gattuso one
@@romashirts4661 all good, I have over 150 shirts amigo, I myself am very particular of my shirts. I have 1 main source from where I get my kits and select others. If you're have kits that you're interested in willing to buy/trade, please let me know. I myself am always searching for Kits aswell. So if you got any let me know.
Always buy brand new ones
Anyone recommend any other service for buying classic football shirts?
Shirt looks fine
Good video mind blown at CFS
Has CFS said anything about this to you?