ACCELERATION BATTLE | Audi A6 3.0 TFSI *Supercharged* vs Audi A6 3.0 BiTDI | Petrol vs Diesel
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- This battle is insane and shows a potential of two most powerful “civil“ AUDI A6 models. (On the top of these two in year 2013 was only Audi S6 and RS6).
#AudiA6 #BiTDI #TFSI
Dislikes from petrol fans in 3,2,1.....
No. 3.0TFSi truly is a bad performer, while BiTDI is a great engine... for diesel. Want petrol, go bimmer.
Looks Like a stage 1 diesel with around 380 hp...
@@intopicture You clearly know nothing of the 3.0 TFSI motor found also in the Audi S4. Tuning potential and not to mention beautiful supercharger sound which the oil burning diesel tractors could only dream of.😆
@@jj-tq4hx yep all true. The 3.0tfsi in a stage 1 and bam between 100 and 120hp extra. The potential of the 3.0tfsi motor is superb. And the sound with other exhaust and air filter 😍
@@intopicture i dont think 5,1 sec standard isnt bad for a heavy car like the A6. So bad performer?? 😂
As a bitdi owner with stage 1.5 tune I can tell you, it is brutal. Especially from the start.
mine stg 3. 445bhp / 920Nm. It's a bomb.
@@bikall1 can you run with dragy.. Like 0-100 and 100-160?
@@bikall1 Nice. I got about 400 with dpf delete and intercooler upgrade. What did you do? My tuner had some problems with the two turbos transition.
@@Sheldon42 wagner intercooler and a different airbox. The cooler makes up for 100nm. But unfortunately that car got a cooling fluid leak which could not be found. (suspect a crack in the block). i bought another one and this one is still stock.
how long do you own the car and does it have issues?
Heart says petrol,wallet says diesel...🙂🙂
Not passing emissions says petrol
No my heart says diesel
My heart and wallet both say diesel though. The 3.0BiTDI is an amazing engine. You can push it quite hard.
@@ThenameisOskar yes
Wallet will say petrol faster than You think, when You'll see the repair bill for the diesel, don't ask me how I know
BiTDi all the way, Better consumption, gearbox and speed.
Ofc when you have 2 turbochargers ...
But that sound with petrol is something like ... i dont know, just awww ❤️😂
@@clicktoplaycz6105 it costs more, for that money you throw a stage 2 on the 3.0T and you kill the diesel
@@mattrixx007 It wont get you a better fuel consumption though..
@@ThenameisOskar well yes but not necessarily, of you are not driving 100+ kilometers with the diesel tho you are just killing it, if you do lots of highway driving than yes its better
@@mattrixx007 Ive always had a diesel. The majority of my trips are 20-30 kilometers. Never had any issues. Nor do I with the current one which is an euro 6 TDI with a DPF.
I sold my last TDI at 350.000km with an engine which was still running perfect.
Really short trips (
My dad currently owns an a6 c7 bi-tdi and it's incredible, 8 speed auto, 3,0 v6 with 2 turbos, diesel, it sounds so good
TFSI power potential in tuning is higher. But in stock biTDI is a little bit faster ,because huge torque
Also bitdi has a lot of tuning potential. I have an a6 bitdi with stage 1 400 hp, 770 nm. No modified mechanical parts. And not all people want to tune cars so.. yes petrol cars sound better, but you heard an 3.0 tdi with straight pipe? Sound like a gtr or even better..
@@robertminea6909 I don't care , my q50 3.0t st2 has 520 hp and 760 nm can absolutely destroy tuned bitdi. 8,2 sec 100-200
@@yulianmarkevych2709 compare also with a bitdi stage 2. And we talk after😉
@@robertminea6909 even on st2 audi will be slower . I already measured on dragy my 100-200 time . 8.2 sec .and 11.68 quarter (402m) . Audi can go as fast as my q50 only on st3 or even can't
@@yulianmarkevych2709 i have in my country an audi a6 bitdi made for drag. With 500+ hp. Quarter mile in 10.4
ruclips.net/video/V9KQSROQPcc/видео.html
diesel power !
BiTurbo agains just Single Turbo, you're genius :D
@@sandikata exactly... in this video the petrol with 1 turbo wasn't far from the 2 turbos diesel...imagine if the same petrol engine would have also 2 turbos...
if you want to compare performance from 2 different engines (petrol vs diesel) make sure are not supercharged or supercharged with same amount of turbos
@@sandikata the TFSI is supercharged not turbo you dumb
i have a 2013 bitdi a6 C7 and before that i had a 2011 A6 3.0 tfsi quattro. i love them both but for some reason the tfsi was a better drive. it is hard to tell which one is faster on the day to day running. both are brilliant cars.
I guess the weight of the engine.
audi still proves that diesel is still amazing and best all rounders
Would’ve been good to see figures in this.
That diesel power is 🚀
@washed up yes but Lexus GS450H is faster
Je hezky ze se v nemecku jeste chytnou cesky radia :D
Damn that bi turbo diesels much quicker than the petrol, 👍👍better fuel economy and faster car with alot more torque for overtaking 👌
you dont need torque for overtaking with automatics
@@paradox5556 ermmmmm explain that statement please. So if my car produces 0 torque but is an automatic i can still overtake? No didnt think so
@@winterscales7065 i bet you have many friends
@@paradox5556 coming from the person who post videos on overclocking and whos profile photo is a cat.......you are tragic
@@winterscales7065 I don't see how any of that would be relevant to you, but okay
No surprises here. BiTDI power!
Probably has more to do with the 8-speed gearbox.
@@bence.gabor.slezak don’t forget the bitdi has more torque m8
@@nickbrandon6808 has more torque at the crank, but probably similar torque at the wheel, since diesels don't rev above 4500, and because of that they need longer gearing to have a decent top speed in each gear. I did the math with e46 330i and 330d. Torque at the wheel is within 20Nm, but the 330i has higher top speed in every gear. I wonder why no racing teams uses diesel engines, maybe because they're just slower than petrols.
@@nickbrandon6808 not to mention, diesels hit peak torque around 2-2500 rpm, and start dropping after 3500. You're not going to be at peak torque when trying to pass another car.
Predpokladam, ze test byl proveden na nemecke dalnici, kde je neomezena rychlost a dosah ceskych stanic :D
I would sacrifice a little speed for the sweet sound of petrol. I own a 1999 Audi A6 2.8L V6 (Full S-Line) and it sounds and drives amazing.
v6 bi turbos sound nothing like a diesel
stick it into dynamic and you have a mini v8
Same here 06 passat 3.2 V6 with modified exhaust
Diesel had the 3.0 for lunch with better mpg, niceee!
The TFSI looks faster at 5000 RPM then 6000, so maybe the car is faster when shifting at 5500RPM.
My own car also feels faster when shifting earlier or not shifting down aggressively, because it has a fairly small turbo to get that low down torque and fast response, but boost slowly drops over 5000 RPM.
Is it running on good fuel?
BiTDI all the way ! DIESEL POWER ❤
Diesel is for trucks and generators not cars
@washed up diesels aren't the future in cars.. Sorry to burst your bubble.
@washed up haha and that's why the EU is getting rid of diesel in cars.. Keep dreaming
@washed up the use of derogatory comments immediately says you're insecure about your opinion. Diesels in passenger cars are dead. It's that simple.
@washed up diesels are for trucks, boats, trains and generators. Not cars. The sooner you can accept, the sooner you'll fit nicely into your white Camry which suits your depth of knowledge in this subject
nonsense video putting a stock 3.0T vs a mapped probably stage 1 BiTDI, also tyres type on both make a difference, driver, launch control etc etc
😅
Damn was not prepared for that..
For the 4.2TDI these Engines are a snack😂😂😂👍
That's true!
For the 4.2TDI your wallet is a snack
@washed up haha no you idiot😂🤦🏼. The 4.2 is faster than this BMW Engine Type
Tune a 3.0 tfsi to 435 ps and it outperforms a 4.2
@@harrydelange1821 🤦🏼🤦🏼🤦🏼
Make Bi TFSI and try ...
🤣🤣🤣
@washed up how does it feel to be such a sad person leaving pointless negative replies under each comment?
What were the acceleration times?
NO dislikes from official 0 to 100 times and Petrol beats it every time. And this coming from someone that owns a diesel.
Audi 3.0 TDİ QUATTRO very good
Der Rußnickel fährtm davon 😂😂
xD
I have a A6 Competition with a 3.0 BiTDi, i always thought that i should have gone with the TFSI but after seeing this i am glad i did not
Bi turbo top 👍😉
have the a5 3.0tdi wish i could have the bi-tdi in it. 👍
Just fit another turbo :))
@@Andretty91 I'm not familiar with working on diesels. be nice if you could swap the top end though. imagine the difference. the a5 looks better and i would assume is lighter. the performance would be excellent. 335d level maybe? don't know why audi never thought about that setup in the a4 and a5.would be a big market for it.
Whsts faster after a tune
navždy pro mě bude bitdi v srdci
Je to super věc
skoda, ze to biTdi je upraveny a 3.0 tfsi stock.
No hybryd go tdi!
Bitdi is definitely tuned.
The diesel is better in literally every way, even sounds better.
True but it doesn't sound better
The BiTDI is remapped. Its running at about 380-400hp.
Ever see the 3.0 TFSI remapped?? Check it out..
No it is stock.HAHAHAHA Petrol fan boy
@@denizuysal9188 its remapped. Diesel loser boy. The fastest cars are petrol, end off story
@@baggedasix5319 🤣🤣🤣🤣.try to comfort yourself in vain.Look at the video gasoline fan boy 😂
@@jj-tq4hx Remapped they do about 420hp if I recall correctly.
Petrol have classic tiptronic?
Yeah, 0-100 in 4,6s and 100-200 in 13s. Thats what those stage 1 BiTDIs with 380hp do. So its useless to compare these two because its obvious it will be faster.
no tuning.
13 seconds 100-200 isn't Stock, and you know that.
@@muldix torque is very important here. And we all know that a6 bitdi is a torque monster.
Anytime comparing these 2 diesel should always win.
@@Sierra-hk8jw bro it's stock.. trust me.. i have an audi a6 bitdi stage 1 now with 400 hp and 770 nm and is faster than 13 seconds 100-200. This engine is very good. Killer engine for petrol cars
@@robertminea6909 there are enough videos out there to tell the truth. Speedo is no GPS.
DIESEL POWER!!!!!! Hate they're gone with a few years...
I had both, video misleading, 3.0 TFSI goes much faster than biTdi after 100 km/h, TFSI reach to 200 km/h before than biTdi
Why's the red line so low for the gasoline one? Is the engine warmed up?
No if you look in the left corner you can see the engine is warm already, the redline is just at 7k rpm
Yeah right, entry level supercharged 3.0 petrol vs high end 3.0 bi-turbo diesel. Why not compare 3.0BITDI vs RS4... ? Or 4.0TDI V8 with RS7 ? Petrol is daddy when we talk about performance. However, that BiTDI consume less fuel along with its decent performance, but it is so complex machinery and should be very expensive if something goes wrong... two turbochargers, expensive nozzles, hpfp, emission system.
Man Lexus is better
Yes but Lexus GS 450h is faster and more economical than BiTDI.
Man if you remove the dpf and drive it fast the BiTDI is more reliable than TFSI
@@dragospahontu If you remove DPF, you are out of the law, except if you are living in some "banana state", or Bangladesh. Also that BiTDI has more than just DPF, there is AdBlue injection system as well.
@@dragospahontu zeperfs.com/en/duel4373-6056.htm
Audi BiTDI would literally destroy that Lexus.
Cau, mas super videa a zajímavy komentare k ojetinam. Nechtel bys udelat nejakej takovej detailnejsi rozbor zivota a ocekavanych servisnich nakladu(vcetne vyhledove ocekavanych) tvy A6 biturba? zrovna posledni dobe jsem resil nakup auta a protoze dost cestuju mezi DE,CZ,SK tak jsem samozrejme zavadil i o tuhle variantu. Ikdyz jsem to nakonec videl servisne ne-perspektivne a rozhodl se jinak, zajimal by me moc nazor cloveka co se rozhodl opacne, vcetne toho jakou roli u tebe velkej tezkej biturbo dislovej kombik ma, resp. celkem nadsene komentujes auta typu Fokusu ST coz jsou razenim zase trochu jiny auta :D sorry za diakritiku, moje klavesnice neni cz freundlich. Peknej den preju a tesim se na dalsi videa !
Ahoj, moc děkuju!
Audi A6 BiTDI mě baví zejména kvůli převodovce ZF, o kterou když je postaráno, funguje daleko líp a déle než S-Tronic (DSG).
Test auta... neslibuju. Fakt nevim, jestli to stihnu. Není to „pracovní“ auto, takže bych to dělal vysloveně jen ve volném čase. Ale budu se snažit překvapit! :-)
We can’t get the oil burner in USA
BDT🔥🔥🔥🔥
So from the beginning the diesel has 13 HP more, also torque is more. It's normal, that diesel wins. But if u want to make good content show us not only displays, put the cars together. Because there a lot of factors like wind, road angle, grip...
in even situation diesel is still going to win, gas. engines are beating diesels in high speed sections but up to 150kph diesels are superior in every way because they have way more torque, comparing 1.4tdi with 80hp and 1.4i with 90hp, that tdi is going to fly past 1.4i even through it has 10hp less, but at the same time at the very end gas is "winning", tdi top speed 17x up to 150, 160 no issues, those last 1xkph you need shitload of free road and it takes forever to reach it, on gas (18x) you can even go slightly above the limit on paper
Or you can put my s4 b8, side by side with that biTDI and i will put that diesel on his place :)
And the same video without lunch control on the mazout ? 😒
The only reason to buy the 3.0 TFSI is because with a simple remap it can get to 450+hp. This diesel is from an era when Audi were dominating 24 Hours of Le Mans thanks to their diesel engines. Those times however are long gone, like the times when the RS6 was the untouchable autobahn missile which MB and BMW couldn't even dream of catching up. I know they pretty much gave up on the ICE, but i really hope their new hydrogen technology would once again lead them into the first place amongst the opposition, cause honestly, now the RS6 is just a a design on wheels. No real engineering went into the engines or the gearbox these last 2 generations.
Petrol sounds better but diesel is just more economical and has more torque
BITDI ftw!
Is the Diesel I4? It doesn't really sound like a 6 cyl
Its an V6 but for some reason in todays world people dont want to hear engine sounds... Check some straigth pipe sound videos from yt, you will be suprised!
If that petrol would have a Turbo, not supercharger, that bitdi will be like 1.4 MPI
Turbo petrol is disgusting
Disel 💪💪💪
Maybe compare with bi tfsi that would have been fair :)) compare the same thing
If only they brought the Bi-TDI's to the US. Only have the TDI's here. Still great engine but not as good
i have a BiTDI and this 1 is def remapped
BUT Bitdi all the way
Diesel power!
Noticed that 210Km/h Sticker?
I would still go for TFSI and tune it a little bit.
@@Sheldon42 stage 1 for the tfsi bumps it up too 400 bhp with no pulley upgrade
@@Sheldon42 Bro, i have a 3.0 TFSI Supercharged, so please no bullshitting
My top: 1.Electric
2.Hybrid
3.Petrol
Last.Diesel
My top : 1. V6 3.0 Diesel 2. Inline 5 Petrol 3. V8 Petrol , last and most disliked is Electric
Nice
měla obě auta záměrně téměř prázdnou nádrž?
No jasně. To všechno je váha. Když to bude mít plnou nádrž, máte 50+ kilo navrch úplně zbytečně.
Stage 1 diesel don't try to fool people. And before you say petrol fan boy bla bla no just being realistic.
so this is why our diesel audi have faster accelerations than a petrol audi
Diesels stock Even with less hp most of the time they sound better and are faster
230km/h on winter tyres with speed limit 210km/h oh oh
What's gonna happen?
I have a strange feeling that my 2009 a5 sportback 270 ps 3.0 tdi is faster than both .
You might be right,i think mine 2014 330d (258 hp)aswell is faster than petrol version, cant say that about Bitdi, which is obviously fast.
Nope it can't be
And after ferw "races" both are out of order cost of repairing is as high as new car.
My 2013 A6 3.0TDI has 268.000km right now and I had nothing to do except one injector which had to be changed at 150.000km. The rest is only tires, brakes and oils. And it's still running like new, even better than in the beginning.. did 254kmh last Saturday and it was a longer high speed run and it never had problems with it, although I kick it really hard, to hard sometimes and I actually expect something to break, but I had always luck!
@@IronWarrior95OK but it is 2013.
downsized tuned engines' life is shorter.
@@chriskros8858 yes I know that very good! But here we are talking about the cars in this video, which are mostly the same. Of course the modern car brake much faster and cost much more in repairs and services.. but they don't fall apart just after some kick downs or even some laps on a racetrack. In some cases you can say, that a special modern car is better when older cars, when you reached 300kmh once and everything was blowing up.. and now you can accelerate from 100 to 350 over and over again for the whole day in a street legal car and then take the kids to school. But yes, in most cars or any technical thing, there are things designed to brake, just after the guarantee is over. They want you to come back so you can give them more of your money and that's actually a fuckin crime!
@@IronWarrior95 Agree but always using full power and agreesive driving leads to damages.
Style of driving is important for car condition. That is why the best car is company car..
@@chriskros8858 yes you're absolutely right!
313 PS Top
S-Tronic on diesel. On petrol - AISIN.
hh no
The petrol engine is detuned, i have the same engine in my s5 and it puts 333hp.
That’s why I have a 3.0 TDI😅😅
Even if the diesel is a bit faster, the petrol sounds mutch better and is cheaper if u most times drive short way's
Seems to me to be about on par. I drive 5000 km per year. I have a 3.0 supercharged. The TDI does nothing for me because there isn't any savings at that distance. Being a speed freak, I tuned it with Stg2 DP and higher octane map. I'd destroy both cars and an S6 too. Some of us buy cars so we can modify them and that makes a clear winner without the comparison.
You are driving a loser car, face it...
Just a little secret : biTDI is tunable as well
@@georgfranko That's cool, but if all fuels are available, I could get as many as 14 different levels of tune from a single source with a 3.0 supercharged. You pick your level based on cost, tolerance for modifications, and fuel types. You can even mix and match. Competition amongst companies is high, which usually brings on the best in them. How fast can I legally modify my diesel to go without compromising my exhaust and have the normal lifespan of factory components?
@@Todd.T well with the 3.0 TDI a stage 1 tune that is only A remap will get the car from 313 HP and 650 nm to 350 HP and 800 nm. That is the safest tune you can get . If you are willing to change the turbos , exhaust and DPF removal you are looking at 400+
@@georgfranko Kind if my point. I don't know if your watching, but the EPA is really cracking down on tuners, DPF removal and exhaust mods. Back in the day, I remember my buddy with his 2.0tdi changing the injectors and a few minor mods. Impressive torque and you'd never think is was a four cylinder. Apparently it started to use too much fuel so he put it back. I would have left it...:)
Diesel only jeans 😉
But who has more problems bitdi or supercharged? Diesel maintenance cost is more
Two turbos push more than only single turbo
But tdi no stock
Stock
@@muldix 100 - 200 12-13 sec. No way
The BiTDi seems tuned. Which I have to say is good cause you wont see good BiTDi tunes that often on RUclips which perform well. Most just suffer of heat and loose to much power. But yeah that doesn't seem Stock to me. Even a 2017 competition with 326hp (overboost to 350hp) and 650NM (Overboost to 700NM) is slower (with upgraded Intercooler to get the overboost).
I have an audi a6 bitdi... you don't know what you talk about... stock it makes around 13 seconds. I have stage 1 with 400 hp and 770 nm.. And trust me the time is slightly less than 13 seconds. I keep reading through comments shit that the bitdi is tuned as otherwise it had no chance, diesel is shit etc .. you underestimate this engine😉. This car with this engine is a tank... a very fast tank that easily catches 300 km/h😉
@@robertminea6909 That would say that at least 10 other Videos of these cars are wrong. Even AutoTopNL had an A6 comp. Which made 350hp and did around 14.52 sec from 100 to 200km/h in the best run. These cars have too small Intercoolers so they can't have thier full potential. The intake Air just gets way to hot. Wagner Tuning has one which will help with this problem. As well the AWD costs power. I drive an A4 with 2.0 Diesel and I love it but I have to stay realistic. You can watch the Video from Darkside Development. These engines don't have that much tuning potential and if you still have your dpf in, with 400hp it will melt someday cause way to high egt's. 400hp with just Software will be a bad live for the engine.
@@AlcatrazCrylake you are right... These guy tell some shit at other comments but at least the same fake times like here...
Le constat est plutôt sans appel
AIIMIII LA BITDI DE 0 A 200 ACCROCHERAI PRESQUE MA 607 2.2 HDI
Doesnt matter what is faster... sound - this is what is killing all diesels. But that tfsi doesnt sounds good as well.
DIESEL 💪👍
🔥👍
Tak o jedno turbo mene :-) ale taky bych cekal ze Benzin bude sviznejsi. Je to "rovinka" - treba lehkost motora a prubeh je lepsi u benzinu v zatackach atd.
Benzín má o dvě turba méně :-)))
Ten benzin nema ani jedno turbo, ale ina kompresor
German cars
Are amazing !
Definetly BITDI
Diesel power 👌🏼👍🏼
Diesel sounds terrible and doesn’t Rev properly.
Diesel Love ...
This is no Stock TDI with 313hp They usually do 100-200km/h 15-16 sec. This one with does ~12.5sec.. The only whey they can manage that is with a tune of 400HP+. (cause of quattro)
If it's only Stage 1 then he's driving down a hill.
3.0tfsi is normally just a bit faster (~0.5sec) 0-200.
You don't know what you're talking about, believe me. A6 bitdi stock makes 100-200 in about 13 seconds. With stage 1 the time decreases slightly below 13 seconds. I have an a6 3.0 bitdi with stage 1, 400 hp and 770nm so believe me I know what I'm talking about and you don't😉
I dont? But you just confirmed I'm right by saying that 400hp Audi quattro does ~12insh 100-200??? Also I just solded my 7th (Tunned) car, so dont know the best, but sure as f.ck know a lot! Be sure IF YOU gain 150nm and 87Hp you must slice 'at least' 4 sec off the 100-200km/h. So do the math. Also here is my last example: A6 C7 avant 3.0tdi 204hp 450nm=100-200 in 26sec (stock). After tunning to 300hp and 610NM =100-200 18sec. That is minus 8sec!
@@robertminea6909 you talk the same shitty fake times everywhere... I showed you the truth ...
@@Sierra-hk8jw What an Audi fan 12-13s 100-200 stock 😂😂😂
@@iptvprovajder8594 no way for that 🤷♂️
Turbodiesel tutta la vita ❤
Diesel engine will newt beat petrol. if only stage 2 or 3
Dizel is faster too its just the sound that is rubbish
Only 300 ps with 3.0tfsi? Xd
Nice fake aceleration with high end diesel tuning.
biTdi it's tdi for bisex?😂😂
s6 would better compare..v8 power
Češi
Mine c7.5 2.0 diesel stage 1 is almost same deal like 3.0 tfsi
BiTDi was tuned...
No...
No, this engine is unreal. Standard BiTDI is 0.1 faster than the previous gen. S6 (C6 V10 petrol) :D in fact, A6 BiTDI is THE fastest A6 ever made.
@@martind2018 no isnt. 20,9s to 200km/h stock, so its tunned