All this generation suffered the anger of the modern art critics because of the argument between the academic oil painting and the impressionism. Obviously, as the moderns won the battle, the elders were thrown to the lymbs and now, you can hardly read an article in art books about the so called little masters, even the famous pompiers like Bouguereau, cabanel etc... are ignored to the benefit of post impressionist painters, the only ones called legit by the established art critics.
A marvellous video!! Thanks!!! We use the Bargue drawings in the Angel Academy of course; I particularly admire Bargue's figural line drawings that teach us how to design the figure, using a combination of looking at the model and drawing on an understanding of classical sculpture. Bargue's brilliant, rhythmic outlines interpret the edges of the shapes in terms of C-curves, S-curves and straight lines.
Great comment, thank you! Do you know where I can find out more about the principles of classical sculpture? I mean a blog post, book, video or similar :) thank you!
@@jascha9033 Hi Jascha, the best book I know of is Art and Experience in Classical Greece, by J.J. Pollitt. Learning how to apply these ideas, though, takes a few years of study: simplifying, breaking the outlines of the shapes into rhythmic sections as Bargue shows us in his figure drawings, and learning how to conceptualise the figure (or anything else), using only those suggestions from the model that are useful for our ideas. As I like to state it to my classes: it's a matter of seeing the Eternal beyond the Specific. Pollitt expresses this as the "representation of the specific in the light of the generic." You might want to look up the Theory of Forms on Wikipedia for a straightforward explanation of how the Greek sculptors thought of this.
Thank you for introducing me to this artist. Not only am I in awe of his incredible ability to render, with remarkable precision, skin tones and textures, but of his graceful line drawings. It was mentioned that the artist didn’t have an easy life, but there was no discussion of the particular challenges he experienced. I can’t help but wonder what kind(s) of personal struggles he faced.
Thanks for this illuminating video of Bargue. The problem he had and the reason he was likely so reluctant to exhibit at the Salon is that while his technique was flawless, his paintings were so derivative of Meissonier and Gêrome. In a period where innovation became synonymous with success, he seems to have fared poorly. But his instructional course is a lasting legacy.
Excellent presentation imho. I wish I received this when I was in HS. This channel should be brought into the grade schools to help stop the social decay that is all around us. There, I said it.
What a discovery this brilliant pupil of Gérome ! ...should he have lived longer he would have most certainly be rated along Meissonier and Gerome as the most talented 'academic' artist of the 19th ! century !
I learn't a lot doing the Bargue Plates when studying fundamentals. Its the fast track to gleaning the power of shadow shapes and edge variation. Its a lesson in "less is more", less means mystery as well as gaining more powerful compositions
Mind blowingly brilliant.... Thanks so much for this feature on what is a little known artist outside of the art community & academics who's talents were beyond gigantic.
Thank you so much for making this video! I came across Bouguereau, Cabanel, the ateliers and Charles Bargue's drawing course while in my 3rd year of art school and got rly interested the french academy and the Grand Prix the Rome competition. I bought the Charles Bargue drawing course and printed out the plates in the size recommended in the book. Its an excellent drawing course! The art school i went to had a great program of study as well and i learned very critical art fundamental skills there so i am thankful for that! Can you plz also make a video detailing the Grand Prix de Rome in Paris and the process and prep that students would go through as they would compete in it? There are some really cool paintings that were produced by the students for the grand prix, even the ones that didn't win. Like for example - Paul Baudry's work and drawings. Oh wait hang on, you already did a video on the Grand Prix! Its good. Ok, can u plz make another one that goes in more detail and also talks about the main ateliers that the students wpuld train at while attending the Ecole? Like the famous ateliers of Julien, Cabanel, Delaroche, Picot, etc, or maybe the ones you find most pertinent for this. And ofcourse going into more detail about the competition and the process of progression of each stage of the concours and the works! Thanks
I Varma made two videos based on Bargue method. ruclips.net/video/rA9V_Kd7AWI/видео.htmlsi=jTC32WPx6ZX5GlJJ and ruclips.net/video/tob7avvOzDw/видео.htmlsi=RJeoOufNXF1uyQjk
Thank you for presenting Charles Bargue. His work is magnificent.
How is it possible that a great master painter of this caliber is so little known?
Thank you very much for this video!
All this generation suffered the anger of the modern art critics because of the argument between the academic oil painting and the impressionism. Obviously, as the moderns won the battle, the elders were thrown to the lymbs and now, you can hardly read an article in art books about the so called little masters, even the famous pompiers like Bouguereau, cabanel etc... are ignored to the benefit of post impressionist painters, the only ones called legit by the established art critics.
A marvellous video!! Thanks!!! We use the Bargue drawings in the Angel Academy of course; I particularly admire Bargue's figural line drawings that teach us how to design the figure, using a combination of looking at the model and drawing on an understanding of classical sculpture. Bargue's brilliant, rhythmic outlines interpret the edges of the shapes in terms of C-curves, S-curves and straight lines.
Great comment, thank you! Do you know where I can find out more about the principles of classical sculpture? I mean a blog post, book, video or similar :) thank you!
Maestro 🙇♂️
@@jascha9033 Hi Jascha, the best book I know of is Art and Experience in Classical Greece, by J.J. Pollitt. Learning how to apply these ideas, though, takes a few years of study: simplifying, breaking the outlines of the shapes into rhythmic sections as Bargue shows us in his figure drawings, and learning how to conceptualise the figure (or anything else), using only those suggestions from the model that are useful for our ideas. As I like to state it to my classes: it's a matter of seeing the Eternal beyond the Specific. Pollitt expresses this as the "representation of the specific in the light of the generic."
You might want to look up the Theory of Forms on Wikipedia for a straightforward explanation of how the Greek sculptors thought of this.
😊 thank you very much for an artist I did not know about. Amazing.
Such a great presentation one of my favorite artist and unsung hero’s of the academic world
Incredible artist! A master. Grateful for this very fine video. His was the color of gold.
Thank you for introducing me to this artist. Not only am I in awe of his incredible ability to render, with remarkable precision, skin tones and textures, but of his graceful line drawings.
It was mentioned that the artist didn’t have an easy life, but there was no discussion of the particular challenges he experienced. I can’t help but wonder what kind(s) of personal struggles he faced.
Thanks for this illuminating video of Bargue. The problem he had and the reason he was likely so reluctant to exhibit at the Salon is that while his technique was flawless, his paintings were so derivative of Meissonier and Gêrome. In a period where innovation became synonymous with success, he seems to have fared poorly. But his instructional course is a lasting legacy.
Excellent presentation imho. I wish I received this when I was in HS. This channel should be brought into the grade schools to help stop the social decay that is all around us. There, I said it.
Amazing skill of Charles Bargue, super presentation. Enjoyed. Thank you .
Loved it! Inspiring work
So amazing and thanks 🙏🏻 ❤
What splendid works of Art...Thank you for bringing Bargue's story to our attention...❤
What a discovery this brilliant pupil of Gérome ! ...should he have lived longer he would have most certainly be rated along Meissonier and Gerome as the most talented 'academic' artist of the 19th ! century !
I learn't a lot doing the Bargue Plates when studying fundamentals. Its the fast track to gleaning the power of shadow shapes and edge variation. Its a lesson in "less is more", less means mystery as well as gaining more powerful compositions
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Incredible artist
Mind blowingly brilliant.... Thanks so much for this feature on what is a little known artist outside of the art community & academics who's talents were beyond gigantic.
Wonderful !! Thank you!
I started that drawing course some years ago and wished I'd have finished it.
Thank you very much for this wonderful information!!! Great artwork!!!
Amazon art.The first I've heard of him.
Truly astonishing
Thank you so much for making this video!
I came across Bouguereau, Cabanel, the ateliers and Charles Bargue's drawing course while in my 3rd year of art school and got rly interested the french academy and the Grand Prix the Rome competition.
I bought the Charles Bargue drawing course and printed out the plates in the size recommended in the book. Its an excellent drawing course!
The art school i went to had a great program of study as well and i learned very critical art fundamental skills there so i am thankful for that!
Can you plz also make a video detailing the Grand Prix de Rome in Paris and the process and prep that students would go through as they would compete in it?
There are some really cool paintings that were produced by the students for the grand prix, even the ones that didn't win.
Like for example - Paul Baudry's work and drawings.
Oh wait hang on, you already did a video on the Grand Prix! Its good.
Ok, can u plz make another one that goes in more detail and also talks about the main ateliers that the students wpuld train at while attending the Ecole? Like the famous ateliers of Julien, Cabanel, Delaroche, Picot, etc, or maybe the ones you find most pertinent for this. And ofcourse going into more detail about the competition and the process of progression of each stage of the concours and the works! Thanks
We're glad you're enjoying the video. A deeper dive into the Ecole and those famous Ateliers is already in the works!
@@gammelllackinstitute that's really good, im looking forward to it!
We use this also in farigh Ghaderi art studio in Sweden Stockholm ❤
Good to hear from you from Sweden, thanks
Brilliant *
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Bananas 😮
Add more Orientalist painters, if you can do it
We plan on it, Thanks
I Varma made two videos based on Bargue method. ruclips.net/video/rA9V_Kd7AWI/видео.htmlsi=jTC32WPx6ZX5GlJJ and ruclips.net/video/tob7avvOzDw/видео.htmlsi=RJeoOufNXF1uyQjk
I can truely make the course/plates obselete