I really hate that people complain about fallout 1st it cost money to run and develop a game like this and the people who support that by paying for the subscription should absolutely be rewarded in better ways
Thank you for the the information on this coming season. Would it be possible to adjust the volume down on the harmonica between topics? Seems a tad bit loud on the loudest note, thanks!
Hay what's the name of the mask of the male avatar is wearing I like to know so I can keep an eye out for it so I can grab it whenever it becomes available again?
@@runsolomon do you feel like the rewards for FO1st this season are better? what would be great is if FO1st players got more S.C.O.R.E. for each challenge, allowing them to rank up faster and offsetting the fact that FO1st players have to grind longer to purchase all of the standard + FO1 rewards
@adarus9941 but it takes more in game grinding to obtain all the rewards. Especially when you have fallout 1st. I think if you have that membership it should be an easier grind for paying.
I do miss the scoreboards, as when you compleated it you get a camp item and it was so easy seeing what you unlocked and what you havent. now its slow clunky and aweful
No, they ran reports and chose to go in this direction. Bethesda hired a guy from EA. That person's job is to increase revenue. They are building extra grind and increasing the cost of everything on purpose.
@@Jeremy-k9t i agree with you and @perceivedvelocity9914 - B knows what they're doing. they're squeezing us. it's going to get worse each season, and they're going to keep doing it until they no longer see a positive return for it. new people who join don't know what it was like before. for them, the way it is now is the way it has always been, and if they accept that, then they're hooked and will happily pay. B doesn't care if old players all leave. that just frees up room on the servers for new players who will pay to play. if they lose 10 people who don't pay and gain 1 person who does, it's a win.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 What extra grind? It's the same system. It works the exact same way. It's as boring and grindy as it has ever been since they switched off the scoreboard system. This season is no different. If they want money from me, they should put some stuff in the atom shop that I might actually want. They haven't managed to do that for years. That's why I'm still sitting on 16k atoms from a fallout 1st subscription I had years ago. They will never get through the backlog of atoms I have because everything they put out is camp item garbage. I didn't even do the season before the one we're currently on. I took one look, saw it was pioneer scout themed, and noped out. I honestly think they are allergic to money at this point.
The real question is, at what point are we going to get the MUCH NEEDED Stash and Camp Budget increase?? They keep giving us all these Camp Items and new weapons but... Where are we meant to keep these things? We're stuffing 20lbs in a 5lb bag at this point.
you have 5 characters. park em outside the rusty pick and deposit unwanted stuff on those characters. find a friend who's in a server, store your stuff, switch characters and rejoin the friend. Pick up your stuff and log off. Easy weight management
We don't need more stash space, and CAMP budget won't be increased because of technical reasons (more loading time and FPS drop). What we need is ammo and scraping box being freed from FO1st. Ammo and scraps taking up space and weight makes sense in a single player FO games like FO4 for roleplay reason, but not in FO76 which is a different kind of game.
Your theory on the 100 atoms on BP2 only makes sense if you have FO1st. If you are a “standard” player and choose to spend ZERO money in 76, BP2 is basically the only way to get atoms. And if you like the atom shop at all, you need all the atoms you can get. I personally have done all the “easy” atom challenges a long time ago. I’m not going to “kill 1100 robots with a one handed melee weapon” for 40 atoms lol. The BP2 atoms are by far the best choice. Thanks for the vids guys
They get worse, when you get the No Weapons challenge for robots. So essentially resort to punching or tossing a throwable then unequipped it quickly. Not worth the grind for 40 atoms D:
@@Gamer_Aviator not sure what you mean, I’m saying I don’t spend any real world money on fallout, aside from when I bought the game and the monthly xbox live fee. If you are in my boat, the only atoms I get are from the scoreboard, and atom shop items are of high interest to me. Much more so than anything else on bonus page two. Grinding 250 tickets just for 100 atoms sucks but its the only way I get access to the atom shop. I figure most players probably haven’t grinded the world challenges as much as I have, so they can still scrape a few hundred atoms from there relatively easily. But I basically picked that bone dry lol. Still only at 3k hours out of 7.6k 😅
@BuenoMcgurski I agree. I was doing the same. I was using Bing points to get atoms or xbl when it was xbl before it was called core. I hate the eay the game is set up. I love 76. I just stopped playing cause I don't care enough anymore. I'm stuck on fnv right now.
@@BuenoMcgurski so you'll grind an hour a day for seven days to get 10 ranks to get 250 tickets so you can buy 100 atoms that you could otherwise just buy from the atomic shop for $1. ONE DOLLAR. instead you're paying $15 worth of tickets, which have a value of $15 whether you paid for them or not. just because you received $15 worth of tickets by playing the game for 7 hours instead of by paying $15 doesn't make them free. so you are paying $15 and receiving $1. instead take $15 and buy 1500 atoms and then spend your 7 hours doing something else with those atoms. at some point the principle of not paying any money for the game turns into blinders that keep you from seeing how badly you're being ripped off for your time. time is the most valuable resource you have - you don't get any more of it. spend it wisely. don't piss it away for 6% of its value.
Scoreboards were great, you were getting stuff multiple times a day if you played for a couple of hours. With this current system, as a casual player who maybe plays maybe 2 to 4 hours per week, It takes forever to unlock a page where you can finally pick something. Boring, and what do you get? Nothing all that great until many many weeks into it (for casuals like I've become). So I already just said 'nah, not that into the grind anymore'. I just build stuff now.
Like to see Minerva and the other gold bullion Trader have more items for sale that came from previous scoreboards Fallout first prizes and regular prizes for people that missed those scoreboards and would like to get some of them Camp items apparel skins the jetpack from the first season skin.
Clearly you’ve not been paying attention to fallout 76 because it’s Giuseppe Della Ripa over at the Whitespring that sells the majority of old scoreboard rewards. It’s only items added to Mortimer at crater and Samuel at foundation that Minerva will ultimately sell at a discount. Gamer Aviator is completely wrong when they say the Tesla cannon mods will appear in the atomic shop. Because they won’t, they be added to Giuseppe Della Ripa inventory. It’s only the Tesla Cannon weapon itself that will ever be sold for atom. 1500 atoms to be exact, just like the cold shoulder or auto axe. The idea being that you could grind the 500 (each) stamps need for the auto axe and cold shoulder or you can spend 1500 atoms and skip the grind on all characters. Which I recommend especially for the cold shoulder as it’s a great levelling weapon. I think eventually the circuit breaker will be added to the shop and the Cremator will be added to Giuseppe. It usually a six months delay between being featured on the scoreboard and being added to Giuseppe, with another six months to a year delay before being sold on the atomic shop.
Not me. I earned a reward and you just get to have it after the season? If they did it that way then I'd never play the season just buy the things I want with gold after it's over. Treasury notes can AFK'd at a couple seasonal events and quickly become worthless, putting scoreboard items behind gold bullion then makes those scoreboard items just as worthless while slightly evaluating the value of the gold bullion. You missed out just use a different skin.
There is one thing that gives purchasesing atoms an increases its value. I play multiple different characters. All skins and camp items are usable by every one of characters, while consumables are for only one. Not a huge deal but it can change the calculations.
@@Gamer_Aviator yes especially shelters. they are huge value for money considering they'll be unlocked for ALL your characters only when they're on sale. The prices for new shelters are obscene enough to give them a pass till they're on sale though.
people don't play multiple characters though (as in: not all players do) - i only play one character on the account, i see no reason to play a second (if i want to change BUilds i just go to the Perk Card rack and switch over, then pick up a couple weapons). so in a way, people who 'play one character' are 'getting screwed over'.... (if you just go by data/costs) lol
@@Munenushi back in the day we had multiple characters because scrip limits and stuff. probably dont need multiple characters as much now other than for storing things youd like to collect
@Munenushi most camp builders do play multiple characters so they can have many camps. I have 17 camps that I like. One character is a mothman cultists, and has several mothman themed camps. Another is a Responserd, a BOS, and a trader with a brewery, trading post, ect. For camp builder atoms can have a compounding value in the order of magnitude by number of characters.
I do hope there is eventually a separate tab to put separate furnishings you are not fond of using, helps remove the clutter of Furnishings Plans when Base Building. As for the current math calculations you made, I do pray this isn’t them just upping requirements for Scoreboards, a bunch of the Enclave stuff looks amazing tho.
I’m rank 231 on the current score board, have more than 3300 hours in game. More than 2k legendary modules just sitting there after attaining every perfect armour set and best in class weapons available over every build. Just cancelled fo1st cause there’s literally nothing for me to grind for (now every rare apparel will be available from murmuh apart from LC). Not bragging or whining, but I would like there to be things left to actually grind for, rather than relatively easy stuff everyone can get for running boring buggy caravans in the next update.
I know what you mean. Nothing left to spend 10k gold on, treasury notes just stacking up, gear is top spec and I don't want to run behind a cow's ass (If it actually moves).
I'm already seeing that and I am just level 134 with about 700 hours in my first play through. I am not the greatest combat troop in these games so I am grinding knowing what I can get as I attain higher and higher levels. 50 levels back I made the observation that the things I needed caps and gold for then I didn't worry about now. Things crossed off my list. Tools to keep getting higher levels. It looks like the whole game is just a big time suck when you get down to it. I still like wasting real time playing though. Like reading a good novel that I can heavily influence. I'll keep playing. I've been playing Fallout for years. I resisted Fallout 76 until this spring but finally took the plunge. I would like to see some more main quests. I'm running out of stuff to keep me engaged.
same lmao cancelled FO1st. 4k hours here and rank 240+ on scoreboard. Have all the gear i want or need but im collecting dev room or other oddities on the side like lobbers etc which keeps the game somewhat alive lol... i'll drop a 1 month sub every time there's a new season release but keeping it active throughout the whole season? wont do it anymore unless things change for the better.
Love you guys. I’m a bit of a probability nerd myself. I assumed that something like this true. I don’t really care. I just Love this game. But thank you, thank you, thank you for grinding out the specifics and telling everyone! Really thank you.
Thank you for vindicating my decision to abandon 76 after 2000 levels.1000 on one character. I stopped playing after the last update. I am done with their broken mess in the name of some vague "future game play goal". I don't need any more surfboard shelves and lame skins.
I think you guys missed the biggest change this season though... They sneakily moved 200 atoms from the free path into the 1st path, meaning free to play players now only get 800 Atoms per season instead of 1000 like in previous seasons . You still get 2000 tickets per season like before, but now it's 800 for free players and 1200 for season pass / 1st players... This is obiviously a psychological trick to make the purchase of the 1500 atoms season pass more appealing... As now you kinda "Get" 1200 atoms back after your purchase, meaning you get the impression the season pass only cost you 300 atoms , versus 500 in the past.... But it's just them reshuffling the numbers and taking away some of your free atoms and putting them into the first loot pool. Still , it now makes it more appealing for free to play players to spend the atoms on season pass as they get 1200 of that 1500 investment back and they can in theory use the boosters to maybe try and recoup the 300 missing atoms through bonus page 2 atoms purchase... Or just settle with only getting 500 atoms per season once you substract the season pass purchase cost. I'd say well played bethesda on that one, as it does seem like it will make me purchase the season passes each season now and take in the 300 atoms loss, something I would not have considered when it was 500 loss... Heck maybe next season they will have only 600 in free path and 1400 in 1st path, making it so the season pass essentially pays itself, but nah, that would make it too transparent and would push less ppl to suscribe to first. They just want free to play players not to accumulate much atoms to eventually force them to buy atoms... So the fomo "Pay us 1500 atoms each season and play every day not to lose your investment" strategy seems to work on that end... Especially when that kick ass atomic shop purchase shows up and you're out of atoms and fomo kicks in. Sadly this is the world we live in , where studios wants you to be always poor in atoms and to play everyday, or pay that subscription fee and get atoms each month, unlimited storage and not have to waste 1500 of your atoms each season to hopefully get it back by the end of season if bethesda doesn't end season too abruptly like they did in the past.
Yup, they’re trying to stretch things cause 76 is dying. They haven’t had much in the way of new content for awhile now. Skyline was nice but it was incredibly short.
Locking so many items behind the F1st paywall seems like a good way to drive away more players, or at least fail to keep them interested. Player totals spiked with the Amazon show's release but have been slowly dropping off since. I'm hopeful the raid will help but seeing how pug teams play sometimes, well I'm not 100%. Regardless, thanks for another informative video and take care.
The raid won't matter. It's one event and most people will find out the changes to perks will make for annoying changes. Unless you really want 15 points in endurance.
Lol that was to be expected. Those players realized how many bugs and crashes were in the game and called it quits. I said this when it happened. those new players were not gonna put up with that stuff. So now its back to the dedicated few. They messed up. Fumbled everything. The tv. Show was a perfect time to get things together.
For the past 3 seasons I've been trying to reach the second bonus page but this time i completely gave up right after reaching the first bonus page. The grind is soul draining and not worth it
Same, just cancelled my 1st.. no protest or anything, just bored, I'm literally logging in just to do the daily score and nothing else.. so I decided I'm just not enjoying playing anymore. It's a case of "been there done that".. there is nothing new and the past couple of seasons haven't excited me and the weekly atom shop items have been "meh"
@@bemusedkidney8619It might be time for me to walk away from 76 as well. At this point I log in to do the daily challenges. Every once in a while I'll get rid of a camp and build a new one.
@@chris5942 Its really everything breaking. And the little things breaking. Like they screwed up the basic player labels. The big thing this season was getting the V63 Carbine and plans for Legendary Box Mods. Well they broke VATS and commando builds. Learning legendary box mods is a grind and a half and thats gotten old. I just want the game to work. Thats all.
Bonus page 2. I only buy the items, that I cannot buy with in game currency via vendors in game. So it has always been Perk Card points/coins. This season 18 and next 19, I am looking at Legendary modules and this is because the price in game has doubled and there seems to be less modules dropping per event. I always reach level 150 and then see what items I like and unlock. Season 18, after choosing all the items I thought would be useful and I would use in game, I still had 41 items to unlock before access to Bonus Page 2 unlocked.
Last season was the first one since they started doing seasons that I just sat the season out. I had been under-impressed by the season's rewards for a while, but season 18 had absolutely nothing that I cared about. Imagine my feigned surprise when season 19 is announced and - once again - there is literally nothing that I want. Where are the awesome items, like the greenhouse building set, or the clean sink or wood log door or or ghilli armor, or on and on. It is amazing how often Bethesda shoots themselves in the foot on these things trying to money-grub the players.
Do a report on Bethesda's only solution to keeping player counts high is introduce more grinding events and tasks - Cargo Runs, Scrapping Legendary items with an abysmal drop rate, constantly nerfing weapons to make them far less effective than when they are first introduced. Now a new Raider event with enemies that can one-shot kill you with no respawns and it must be done in teams, which ignores players that prefer satisfaction through single player game play. Now they are introducing the 4th star Legendary mod while many of us are still struggling with getting want we need with the one, two and three star mods. Sure you can purchase them at extremely high rates, I sell mine at a lot lower price. With caps topping at 40k what's the point of selling them at high prices? They should allow us to sell items for gold bullion and better yet melt gold we find in the wasteland into gold bullion.
@@lastwolflordThe whole idea behind the game was terrible. They made some sort of weird mutant “mmo” offspring where you have thousands of people playing but confine them to groups of a little over a dozen people 😂.. The story is garbage, I mean literally. The factions are terrible and boring. They create raiders who have pronouns and are lead by a bunch of women who attempt to sound tough but fail to do so 😂.. the foundation is pretty bland as well. The brotherhood was okay, but then you get the whole “oppressed woman” nonsense and the guy is able to be flirted with 😂… you can really tell who’s writing this garbage, it continued into Skyline Valley too with the communist lesbian ghoul couple.. The whole game should just be scrapped, it’s terrible. They’ve also completely abandoned the story aspect of fallout reducing it to building your “camp” grinding stupid currency for petty rewards and 200 different power armor skins.
I started this game 3 months ago when I was switching jobs and been having a blast. But now that I am working I don't know if I can keep up with the whole scoreboard grinding. Also as a data scientist your graphs gave me a nerdgasm 😊.
3rd page at rank 18, 5% boost on first page, 10% on second. But yeah i still miss the old scoreboard. On an aside first day with weeklies I'm rank 15,, two pages unlocked... with just dailies and 15% bonus..i expect to be at rank 25 by next reset. Also, i didn't this week, but i usually pop a scoreboost on Tuesdays and get all the weeklies done exceptt the 3 dailies.
Wish i’d seen this video before spending tickets on atoms 🤦♂️😢 I stopped my f.o 1st sub after they changed the scoreboard, and if you’re reading this & unhappy about getting screwed over, I encourage you to do the same, and TELL BETHESDA WHY ! Loudly, repeatedly. Shrinkflation has no place here.
Considering they are nerfing nuka nades and nerfed food magazines too even people who used to farm xp at west tek to get to 100 will have to grind way more. I will definitely be playing a WHOLE lot less cause the goal will no longer be 150 plus personally. I refuse to grind 30-50% more for the same amount of rewards.
Same here. I go to 100 and pretty much done at that point. There's a lot of items I don't want, so I don't buy them. Usually, I have tickets left over when season the season ends.
Technically it's not correct that nuka nades will be nerfed - the grenades will work exactly like they do on live now. What they did was balancing enemies with a smoother scaling, which results in that level 100 super mutants will have more health and but less resists, so armor piercing is less effective on them and in case of nuka nading you need more damage to achieve the same result.
I wish the seasons were somewhere between the old scoreboard and the new system 1 reward per rank, reach the next rank, decide whether you want that ugly skin for an armour you don't use, or keep the claim token. Last seasons rewards were very underwhelming for me, I did buy things I didn't want just to unlock the bonus pages, but this coming seasons rewards look much better and I should naturally be able to unlock it - that not enough items without 1st needs addressing though.
rather have old scoreboard, new one just feel strung out. What get me they set up scoreboard as if you can pick items from last scoreboards like other games dose this system.
I personally play 76 simply because I love the franchise, lore, and just everything revolving around Fallout. Even with all the issues we have had, I still login and play daily. Thank you guys for all your hard work, we greatly appreciate it. Love the channel!!
I see what youre saying about atoms vs time math, but what about for those of us who dont really need any of the other BP2 rewards? For example, in my case, level 1600, 1600 hours played, own everything for gold, half the legendary cards maxed, 100s of repair kits, modules and script. At what point is it worth it to just get the atoms lol. I suppose i could always use more modules for 4 stars, but sheeps are so quick to do. Im level 300 on the board, 4000+ tickets, most the stuff bought, so im in decision paralysis.
The answer to your question is absolutely incredibly simple. Don't waste your time leveling the scoreboard once you have all the items you want. Do something else with your life. I know everyone gets upset with that answer but you need to find balance in your life and invest your time elsewhere. It's not worth it and that truth will hit you really hard one day if it hasn't already.
Hilarious your prescription is "go do something else" while replying to YT comments in your free time. Look in the mirror. Just total avoidance of the question for this segment of the player base. Thanks for the advice I didn't ask for.
I'm canceling fo1st, and i don't see wanting to play the storage game when it's done. Not for this video, but for too many reasons to list. i will shout out the ridiculously high shop prices for things i can't fit in my camp anyway.
They didn’t really think it through. At the end of it all, it’s reduced to buying items for your camp lol.. that’s what they’ve turned it into cause there is no end game, and once you’re done uncovering every location to explore, all that’s left it’s to cycle the grind fest events for pointless currency which you’ll eventually buy everything they have to offer and then it’s basically done. They don’t add more quests, stories and places to explore. Skyline was nice but for a large area it has very little in it to do.
@@Mitch_Conner75926 . Same for GTA 5 online, which is still making a killing on microtransacions. Thats the corporate mindset, cut corners for the cheapest payoff, too shortsighted to care about the damage theyre doing to their reputation. As long as they can get a decent group of cuckers who blow a quarter of their paycheck on microtransactions, this is what the industry is now, and theyll keep pushing the boundaries as much as they can.
I feel like you guys are missing the point a bit on 1st rewards vs F2P rewards. The idea is that 1st gets more items then F2P players. The value is in the amount of items, not necessarily the cost per item.
what I finally realized was that the only way to get any where in the game is to become a fallout 1st member. so I joined so I could use the scrap box and amo box. it is the only way I could keep my weight down so I could fast travel. it freed up space in my stash box because of all the scrap I had in it. now I can put things in may stash box that I want to display. it is all about the money. if you are playing for free as a normal player you will only struggle. it will be hard to keep your weight down so you can fast travel. it will be hard to get enough scrap to build any thing because your stash box will always be full. and it will be hard to put anything on display because again your stash box is full. it will be hard to store any armor or weapon you want to keep but don't want to carry with you because again you stash box is full. I don't like it but it the only way I can enjoy the game is to pay to a fallout 1st member. I will play this way for awhile but if it becomes too expensive I may have to stop playing.
As I mentioned in the last video, Rich has commented about the 71>69 thing saying its a bug and they'll fix it, lets hope they follow through on that before the season drops or those poor mods in the beth discord are going to ragequit from non-stop rage messages.
That’s the sort of thing they have to fix, but IMO also the sort of thing someone should get fired over. That sort of piss poor QC shows that they’re either a bunch of amateurs who can’t do math or a bunch of apathetic a-holes who also can’t do math. I don’t know which one is worse.
another thing that may cause me to stop playing is there is so much of the game that dose not work right. challenges that don't work. I just had to put in a ticket to get my atoms for 3 challenges that didn't work. the quest all that glitters didn't work .A PC should have opened a door that he never opened and so I have to start the quest over form the start. the quest that should give you a reward for bring back tech data dose not work, can't get the pc to ask if you have found any tech data. and then there is all the crashes. many times the game will crash just before you finish an event so you don't get reward. they need to fix all this before people stop playing. it is like a store that you go to that you have to keep bringing back what you bought because it is broke and dose not work. if you had to keep bring stuff back to a store in the real world you would stop going to that store and they would go out of business
The best thing about their new system, is I like that you can buy ranks with Atoms. As a Raider/Funhouse/Circussy type builder, I have been a little sad I wouldn’t get what I really wanted this Season, which was the Raider Lodge, especially since I have been grinding trying to get it and am 3 levels short. I was so happy to discover this morning that I could get it buy it after all. Still fairly new-ish only lvl 210 on my first character though, so maybe this isn’t new? Lol
I wanted the nuka cola girl outfit, came into the shop the other week but was only FO1st, logged off and probably wont be back. I've done most everything i wanted to do anyway.
Level 655 2400 hours in ..great game but it almost crash every hour.. i just got the explosive and lightweight mod plan so i keep playing but the crashes make me think sometimes to quit fallout. Ps4 disc on a ps5. I play since 2018 and the crashes on ps5 are worst then the release of fo76 .. that say something. Rather fix the broken things first before adding more stuff
Some of the rewards are later sold in the Atomic shop. Other items are added to the in game gold bullion or stamps venders. If I knew for certain that an item was going to be sold for gold bullion in game I wouldn't unlock it during the season. I'd save those tickets for Atom's. I'm always maxed out with gold bullion. Stamps are another story.
Id rather fewer pages. It's annoying to scroll through all the pages everytime you want to go to the final page. It doesn't take any more or less time to reach 100. I miss the old scoreboard for sure tho. But like the new scoreboard after 150...
To add to the buying ‘tickets’ I calculated the amount at the start of this season of going from rank 1-100 I believe was 30k atoms which is just laughable, I might have remembered wrong, but at now a level 97 on the Season I’m grinding out as much as I can, but I calculated my level buying to 100 to be just over 1k atoms which is doable, if I don’t get it for free first. Assuming Bethesda follows the same format, grind as far as you can get for free, and then pay for the cheapest way? What I’m doing now
At the start of a new season I grind to get as much thru the season ranks as I can, but not XP grinding it. Then after about 2 weeks (or sometimes one week) I get a FO1st sub and that will get me through the rest of the season to the finish line. I don't mind spending the single month as I mostly just play this in the evenings.
With the scoreboards I continued playing beyond Rank 100 because you got some reward with every rank. Now I just stop doing daiyls and weeklys after rank 100 because I dont have the time to play all day to reach 150 and there is nothing in it for you between 100 and 150. Also the caravan add on was so bugged with high powered enemies swarming you and following you to the end of the run that a lot of people got frustrated. Now I can barely do a caravan alone and I find few people who are willing to do them even so they got better. The problem is if you sell people a crappy car from the start the dont want to buy your car later on even if you got out all the problems. Edit: With the new "Invaders from beyond" I played 12 missions so far and got 2 new plans and 10 x old plans I already have. Wtf?
I wish Bethesda would hire some actual quality programmers, because this game has been sitting on potential success, especially with the show coming with season 2.
The most important thing playing F76 is, don't care to own anything. It's only possible if you have invested the last 6 years in the game as 1st, played all seasons and invested the time, or pay now with real money. And honestly, i have decided, to go with a RR themed camp, try to get all story and ingame stuff, sell anything i don't need, buy only the stuff, that is important. I spend atoms usually for Camp items, usually machines, that do something. And yes, i bought some of the collectrons, i don't need, and the RR stuff to get rid of the ugly metal and brick ingame walls. You have to decide. Do i really need that, or can i live without it? And yes, i have played a lot of events, and have some themed stuff to make some seasonal adjustments, but i am not building a whole camp only for halloween or Invaders events. Just switch some decoration and good.
I love playing fallout 76 but I can never get to 150 the highest of garden it's 126 and I was on the final day of the season in my opinion they should make it to where the final page is accessible to everyone for the last couple days of the season silver majority player that cannot get to 150 can actually get the rewards since most of the people who can get to 150 of people spend money or super grind 24/7 but that's just my opinion
I’m at 176 and mostly got there with score boosters and running weekly/daily/daily within 24h, and also playing every double score weekend day. You can do it if you do the weeklies and dailies every day, but if you fall behind, it’s hard to catch up.
@Gamer_Aviator that's true you can but there's still quite a few people on this game that don't have the time to grind or grind double score or double XP weekends that's why I'm saying to make it more fair for the entire player base make it to where you can access at the very end of the season so even if you barely played the season you'll still have at least some tickets to buy what you want
Man, i think its finally time to hang the controller up on fallout76. Been hoping something cool and new would drop but the consistent grindfest Bethesda gives us for reskins and broken things has gotten to be too much. My broken v63 carbine was last straw
i quit playing 3 months ago.. The game became stale , there is no incentive to keep going. As you mentioned, the item cost keeps going up but this is not the only issue. The main issue is that the items are nothing new, just reskins of existing items.. take that coffee maker.. they just give it a different colour and that's it.. then they expect players to spend more than they did for the same coffee maker they already have but in a different colour. It's not even a reskin but a "re-colour". Then issues with building you camps, like when using stairs.. suddenly you cant remove a floorboard that was attached and replace it.. at some point you expect certain issues to be fixed.. Bethesda never fixes things.. they only cause more issues.. "fix" one bug.. and create 10 new bugs.. I will never return to any Bethesda product. In my mind, Bethesda no longer is a game developer but a scam. A scam disguised as a game, promising all these great things should you buy their game.. but in reality they are selling you a defect product that they know they can't make work as intended. They hope to keep you engaged with some new colours or skins. making it look like they are constantly "busy" with the game.. do an update every now and then that doesn't really fix anything but you will keep hoping it will fix the issues you experience. Only a fool would return as a customer/gamer. Even their "Starfield" game suffers from the same issues that all their other games suffer from. In any other business that would mean you would be out of business.. And because the people keep spending money, even with the bugs they aren't able to fix, they have no reason to change.. they're still getting paid. You're basically saying "it's fine"... even though you might not say it with words.. you say it with your wallet.
The worst part about it? Even if all players canceled 1st for a few months so they get the idea that want the game FINNALLY fixed they probably would just shut down production on it since it not profitable.
Best thing about season 18 is I didn't like any of the rusted armor nor much of the Blue Ridge armor so I got to upgrade several legendary cards instead lol. Edit: Great video chock full of data. You can tell you had fun making it despite the data trend.
I did not play at all last season. I got rank 4 and claimed zero rewards. Since this season started I have a couple hundred hrs already. I love it. Sorry some folks don't like it. But I love it, and I really really love the raid.
I save, buy what I REALLY want, and then cheapest to get the bonus page. Barely past Rank 180 just doing the dailies. I want to see how the nuke storm for the camp compares to the mothman weather.
I completed two scoreboards ever since I got the game when it came out never knew anything about the scoreboards when I first played the game until Unstoppable I believe it was then I realized what those challenges were Florida unlock I smoked a lot of weed back that never really paid attention to the game scrapped a lot of stuff made some videos go to LDL 2000 live videos you should be able to see some of the Fallout 76 glitches I recorded but revenge of Zorb was the only scoreboard I completed and like I said I think the Unstoppable scoreboard I unlocked Piper the Ally and I think I got up to the brewing station gas pump skin well that's all I can really find in my inventory to show how far I got in that scoreboard the other scoreboards I would probably just never unlock the very first one or I did and it just gave me Caps or crap other kind of utilities you could probably buy or get free
10:48 I'm completely fine with this lol most of these items are useless trash and I think their removal or shrinking indicates that a lot of players WEREN'T buying them... I know I'm not. If they're being replaced with actual camp items, skins, etc. then it's a good change. Seasons shouldn't be filled with items you can earn in-game ie bullion, carry weight boosters, lunchboxes, etc. You can buy these things from the vendors. I have 500 lunchboxes taking up space, I dumped 1000+ scrap kits months ago, I have 1000+ Treasury notes that I keep forgetting to turn in for gold. I have 300 carry weight boosters. These items are plentiful as it is. I wasn't redeeming more and I don't think other players are either. Maybe new players. Also a suggestion: you guys should separate consumables like the aforementioned from actual exclusive seasonal items. If somebody doesn't redeem the lunchboxes this season, no big deal right? They'll always be in the game, just get some treasury notes. But if you don't redeem the enclave grill? Yeah, that's gone. Could show up in the atomic shop later, but let's just assume that like most items the opportunity is lost. I prioritize these items over consumables and I think a more accurate picture for most players on how long it takes to complete a season would be to focus on these items by themselves... And well, include atoms of course, I don't think anyone is passing those up either way.
It’s really not fair that all these games only cater to those who are hard grinders. What about all of us explorers? I’m sincerely sick of it. Some of us have jobs and responsibilities. I do not have the time to get through some of these grinds. No love for the rest of us? 💔
Fallout was suppose to be about exploring, stories and choices. Now they’ve bastardized it and turned it into a grind fest of stupid events for petty rewards and made power armor feel absolutely worthless 😂
When they sell me an awesome nuka launcher for real life money and then Nerf it 90 days later,sure makes it seem like they don't want me to play anymore.
It is difficult for me to understand everything you say because my native language is not English and I follow you with the help of the subtitles. I don't really understand why you say about not spending the tickets on atoms. I understand the logic behind it but, perhaps it's because I don't know how to use them well, I don't see much use in everything else they give me on that bonus page. All those other things I can get for free by playing and I'm not even crazy about getting them. I have lunchboxes saved from the ones they give away daily because I'm too lazy to go to Westech to farm exp. It's boring, laborious (keeping an eye on getting, crafting, and consuming a bunch of things to increase intelligence to get more exp), and it's not even that fast. Those atoms are expensive in tickets, yes... but it's real money. The only way to get things that I might like from the atomic shop. And there are a lot of things in the season that I don't really care about like caps, icons, stamps or photo frames. Right now, in this season finale, I have a lot of tickets and I'm missing things from the first bonus page and some from the last normal page (I was left without the first one) but I have almost everything else and I wonder do I really want a rusty turret or a "blacksmith" sign? I don't know, if you see any error in my logic, advise me.
Here's why we say that it's a bad deal: - 250 tickets is 10 ranks, which at rank > 150 takes about a week of doing all dailies/weeklies. If you can do them all in an hour, then it's 7 hours of gameplay. - you can also get 250 tickets for $15 (purchasing 10 ranks at 25 tickets per rank, which will cost you 1500 atoms that you can get from the store for $15), so tickets have a value, whether you buy them or not. if you play for 7 hours to get 10 ranks and 250 tickets, then you were "paid" $15 for 7 hours of gameplay. - you spend the $15 (250 tickets) to get 100 atoms. - if you bought the atoms from the store they would cost you $1 (ONE DOLLAR) - so effectively you were paid $15 for your time, and you traded it for $1 of rewards. - just go buy 100 atoms for $1 and spend the 7 hours doing something else. or buy 1500 atoms for $15 and spend the 7 hours enjoying them. Some people argue that they don't pay anything, and the tickets are free. This is a fallacy. You are paid in tickets for your time. At some point the principle of not paying any money for the game turns into blinders that keep you from seeing how badly you're being ripped off for your time. Time is the most valuable resource you have - you don't get any more of it. Don't squander it for 6% of its value.
Honestly, I don't grind for more non lore friendly skins and player icons I'll never use. I grind for the different currencies (Atoms, stamps, modules etc). What I don't like is how you are force to claim "X" number of items you don't want before you can spam the level 150 page where the currencies are repeatable. Let players unlock what they want and don't pigeon hole us into a bunch of things we don't want just to get the good stuff!
I mostly farm the perk coins from Bonus page 2, have taken the modules a couple of times. The 100 scrip seems like a typo - the 10 modules is 10 times the value!
my long rant about the increasing "grind" in games... : There seems to be an increase (again) over the past while in the low-reward 'grind' and RNG (loot boxes, drops, etc) in non-mobile games, and if i may be so bold as being part Asian, an increased Asiatic influence - that is, in Asia "the grind" is seen as honorable, something of high value - because it took dedication and discipline to 'get' or 'complete' whatever it was (collection of something, end reward, etc). It literally is a popular (and not seen as negative really) thing... it 'echoes the suffering of life', and other philosophies, to Asiatic audiences. (Aside from the 'got-ya' games, where small machines give out rewards randomly; there are even bags in shops, found in Japan for example (both large and small shops but mostly found in corner stores) - where customers pay a price then 'pull blindly' into the bag with their fingers, and see what celebrity/movie/game/etc item they got - hoping (RNG) they got the one they wanted/liked. This is normal in the East, where superstition is higher in general, if i may. It is a "fun" thing, even if they do not get the celebrity/movie/game/etc item they initially wanted) Unfortunately for companies implementing these Eastern tactics (or hiring more Asiatic Employees) - the Western way of thinking of "the grind" is different... I'm not sure why they are trying to implement it so much in the West (USA, UK) because the stimulus-gratification ratio is far, far different in these regions.
There is hardly any Bartering at all in Western Shops IRL (ZERO in most places!) and "the grind" (especially if not action-packed or varied) is seen in a much more negative light (resulting in a very unsatisfying feel in the Western regions). People in the West want to 'get what they pay for' - no tricks, no chance, no RNG - you saw something you wanted in the shop and you bought it right away, or saved up to buy it; for one solid price. Games in the West kind of need to go back, try to lessen the 'Asian Grind' (eg. from JRPGs, KRPGs, etc) and make things more varied and satisfying for Westerners (eg. more rewards, more often) and for STATIC prices again, not RNG...or sadly, Devs; you may eventually bleed your American audience or not get the buyers/income you wanted - and then 'wonder why'...
I would still take the atoms even if it's a dollar vs 10 $😂 all that other stuff is straight garbage what do I need lunchboxes and carry weight boosters that will only last me an hour . And the perk coins can literally be obtained by scrapping a few cards
21:10 you can enjoy something and still be critical of it. If the game isn’t going in the direction you prefer, criticism can be one of the best ways to let your voice be heard, and hopefully bring about positive changes. There are many aspects of this game that I have been critical of for years. But I still enjoy it. Been playing since the stress test going into the beta.
I’m a new player that Downloaded it in august and played a decent amount then for a month and a half, just came back 2-4 days ago, and I still like it, I havent spent money on this game yet besides buying it, I have a little bit of items I’m at level 63 barely getting my Secret Service Armor and Making my Power armor sets (4-5) I have 1 set complete 💀…. And like no base budget besides crops I stole from people, I just bought the winter retreat and plan on making that a home/Base camp, area, with crops and resources for people to pick up (I also have like no resources since they cost gold and Atoms) but it’s ok I only need like 3-4 to prioritize my base needs
Presumably FO1st players are playing near daily. So it makes sense that it would take more ranks to get all the items, not to mention the fact that non FO1st players aren't even offered the items. Naturally if you play every day this is easy to do. I'm currently rank 220/100 with another week to go in S18. I've been rank 100 since wk4 of S18.
Have never finished a scoreboard. Everyweek theres at least 1-2 “broken” daily challenges, radstags mysteriously wont spawn anywhere when you need to kill some. Mirelurk eggs are mysteriously uncollectable but the mirelurk spawn next to them still activate, or convenient “maintenence” during the last hour and a half of the daily time window. Theyre copying Rockstars GTA 5 online blueprint of making thing more difficult by sabotaging things, like npcs that swerve into you when making deliveries or bugs that ruin mission that never get fixed but money exploits get patched immediately.
The mirelurk thing is annoying for sure. I usually re-roll radstags bc I hate hunting them. Maintenance is usually tied to a server, not a platform, other than the big season-type updates. You should be able to just bounce to a new server to finish.
I stopped playing since atomic shop "discount" offers and half of the score board was locked behind subscriptiom. It's impossible to earn a rewarding amount of atoms now by playing the game. Have never spent a single € on ingame purchases or subscriptions.
It's weird how successful they can be while mostly ignoring fan feedback and rarely dealing with bugs. Sometimes I think we collectively let bathesda get away with too much. We joke about it being buggy because it's bathesda but I can't imagine other games lasting this long lol
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I am myself am a Builder so I love that aspect of it also I also enjoy the role playing aspect because of the challenge for instance I like to play my mistress of mystery character only using The Sword and the revolver because it's a interesting challenge. Yeah the seasons kind of piss me off and I believe currently the scrapping system for the Legendary Weapons is just absolute horseshit it needs to be tweaked.
Should they just give you all the legendary mod plans? What do you want them to do? You can still get random weapon drops for the one in one quarter million chance of getting the item you want if you prefer to do it that way. You can even simply buy the mods you want. Why don't they just give players everything, see how long it takes them to get bored since there's nothing left to earn?
@zarda1484 you're a moron I didn't say that but the odds are too high when you scrap 400 fucking weapons and you only get one mod and no plan then there's something wrong with the system pull your head out of your ass take a deep fucking breathe.
No, we don't We miss the original rewards and the the trophy poster board. We get the "wall art" now on page 10, and thats' supposed to be the finishing reward, but no one sees it that way, and many people don't even grab it.
If you even have camp space for it... I onlygot 2 season pictures & miss them. But I had 2 seasons I just struggled to even log in for the grind, and lost everything because I buy things at the end. Just felt even worse losing everything because I couldn't force myself to play.
Yeah... Nicely done... Basically I just like playing. I want more big missions like the brotherhood storyline etc... I want GOOD skins.. not rainbow stuff and plushies. Not putting down people that like those things, just saying I don't like those things. I want mean looking black and gold armor skins, I want my flame covered hot rod PA repair rack back, things like that. I want items to buy to fix up my camp. Lets do.. a blacksmith shop, a mechanics bay? Better tool boxes, anvils, torches, a lift rack for cars to make it LOOK like a garage. I have been waiting for the enclave wall set to come back so I can buy it because it LOOKS nice.. Don;t get me wrong, if you want rainbow flags and walls... go for it! But it isn't my thing. I love the gameplay, I like the missions and expeditions, but, it reaches a point where you are doing the same things over and over and over and over again. There are missions I have tried a few times... and I am done with them, because they are a pain in the behind to do... Not interested. Give us more of the charge in and kill stuff missions that are challenging. I need 5800 tickets to buy the union armor and mods... at ten tickets per mission (IF run perfectly) Means 580 missions? Nope... Not even going to try. For people that have the determination and the time to do that? GREAT, but why are those of us who have less time punished? Thats what it feels like, a punishment for not playing enough. Give us reasons to stay in the game. I understand they are there to make money. I will buy atoms.. But they have to have something I am interested in buying before that happens. Gold bullion? Trying to save it up, I can fight to get it. And or buy it from the Wayward, but getting faction with Settlers and Raiders takes... weeks? Months? IF done every day? Can we all do them every day? Not that they are hard, but they are so limited that it is frustrating. Doing some of the events to gain faction, is NOT possible with one person, We try it with two, and... sometimes manage to complete them, and sometimes not. Often, I feel like they want us to get tired of it and give up. Fallout first paid for, but, probably not going to happen again.
I only get maybe an hour a day if I’m lucky. Season 18 was the first in awhile that I was able to finish. Thank you for the info, great stuff. Excited for the new season?
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Got to tear everything down in order to build back better.
Now delete this.
Thanks guys! 😎
I really hate that people complain about fallout 1st it cost money to run and develop a game like this and the people who support that by paying for the subscription should absolutely be rewarded in better ways
Thank you for the the information on this coming season.
Would it be possible to adjust the volume down on the harmonica between topics? Seems a tad bit loud on the loudest note, thanks!
Hay what's the name of the mask of the male avatar is wearing I like to know so I can keep an eye out for it so I can grab it whenever it becomes available again?
@@runsolomon do you feel like the rewards for FO1st this season are better? what would be great is if FO1st players got more S.C.O.R.E. for each challenge, allowing them to rank up faster and offsetting the fact that FO1st players have to grind longer to purchase all of the standard + FO1 rewards
I miss the old scoreboard
A lot do 😢
So do I. Heck I liked having the scoreboard to hang up in my vault.
I miss them so much wtf 😭
@@lafollettegarage4019 I personally don’t, but I do miss the Scoreboard Posters.
@adarus9941 but it takes more in game grinding to obtain all the rewards. Especially when you have fallout 1st. I think if you have that membership it should be an easier grind for paying.
I do miss the scoreboards, as when you compleated it you get a camp item and it was so easy seeing what you unlocked and what you havent.
now its slow clunky and aweful
I suspect you're doing way more data analysis on this than Bethesda has.
that's funny, and probably true.
No, they ran reports and chose to go in this direction. Bethesda hired a guy from EA. That person's job is to increase revenue. They are building extra grind and increasing the cost of everything on purpose.
@@Jeremy-k9t i agree with you and @perceivedvelocity9914 - B knows what they're doing. they're squeezing us. it's going to get worse each season, and they're going to keep doing it until they no longer see a positive return for it. new people who join don't know what it was like before. for them, the way it is now is the way it has always been, and if they accept that, then they're hooked and will happily pay. B doesn't care if old players all leave. that just frees up room on the servers for new players who will pay to play. if they lose 10 people who don't pay and gain 1 person who does, it's a win.
@@perceivedvelocity9914 What extra grind? It's the same system. It works the exact same way. It's as boring and grindy as it has ever been since they switched off the scoreboard system. This season is no different.
If they want money from me, they should put some stuff in the atom shop that I might actually want. They haven't managed to do that for years. That's why I'm still sitting on 16k atoms from a fallout 1st subscription I had years ago. They will never get through the backlog of atoms I have because everything they put out is camp item garbage. I didn't even do the season before the one we're currently on. I took one look, saw it was pioneer scout themed, and noped out. I honestly think they are allergic to money at this point.
@@perceivedvelocity9914Lol and in the process losing revenue by driving up prices 😂
I prefer the old scoreboard to the new system ngl, never finished a new scoreboard so far, likely never will
The real question is, at what point are we going to get the MUCH NEEDED Stash and Camp Budget increase?? They keep giving us all these Camp Items and new weapons but... Where are we meant to keep these things? We're stuffing 20lbs in a 5lb bag at this point.
The sooner you realize the devs are autistic bags of trash who don't listen or care about what you want, the better you'll feel.
you have 5 characters. park em outside the rusty pick and deposit unwanted stuff on those characters. find a friend who's in a server, store your stuff, switch characters and rejoin the friend. Pick up your stuff and log off.
Easy weight management
@@BxBxProductions No. What kind of no life fucc has five characters??
We don't need more stash space, and CAMP budget won't be increased because of technical reasons (more loading time and FPS drop). What we need is ammo and scraping box being freed from FO1st. Ammo and scraps taking up space and weight makes sense in a single player FO games like FO4 for roleplay reason, but not in FO76 which is a different kind of game.
@@hitthedeck4115Lol they won’t ever free them from 1st 😂 that’s why people pay for it.
Your theory on the 100 atoms on BP2 only makes sense if you have FO1st. If you are a “standard” player and choose to spend ZERO money in 76, BP2 is basically the only way to get atoms. And if you like the atom shop at all, you need all the atoms you can get.
I personally have done all the “easy” atom challenges a long time ago. I’m not going to “kill 1100 robots with a one handed melee weapon” for 40 atoms lol. The BP2 atoms are by far the best choice.
Thanks for the vids guys
You are never spending zero money on this board. Tickets have a value regardless of whether you are FO1st or not.
They get worse, when you get the No Weapons challenge for robots. So essentially resort to punching or tossing a throwable then unequipped it quickly.
Not worth the grind for 40 atoms D:
@@Gamer_Aviator not sure what you mean, I’m saying I don’t spend any real world money on fallout, aside from when I bought the game and the monthly xbox live fee. If you are in my boat, the only atoms I get are from the scoreboard, and atom shop items are of high interest to me. Much more so than anything else on bonus page two. Grinding 250 tickets just for 100 atoms sucks but its the only way I get access to the atom shop.
I figure most players probably haven’t grinded the world challenges as much as I have, so they can still scrape a few hundred atoms from there relatively easily. But I basically picked that bone dry lol. Still only at 3k hours out of 7.6k 😅
@BuenoMcgurski I agree. I was doing the same. I was using Bing points to get atoms or xbl when it was xbl before it was called core. I hate the eay the game is set up. I love 76. I just stopped playing cause I don't care enough anymore. I'm stuck on fnv right now.
@@BuenoMcgurski so you'll grind an hour a day for seven days to get 10 ranks to get 250 tickets so you can buy 100 atoms that you could otherwise just buy from the atomic shop for $1. ONE DOLLAR. instead you're paying $15 worth of tickets, which have a value of $15 whether you paid for them or not. just because you received $15 worth of tickets by playing the game for 7 hours instead of by paying $15 doesn't make them free. so you are paying $15 and receiving $1. instead take $15 and buy 1500 atoms and then spend your 7 hours doing something else with those atoms.
at some point the principle of not paying any money for the game turns into blinders that keep you from seeing how badly you're being ripped off for your time. time is the most valuable resource you have - you don't get any more of it. spend it wisely. don't piss it away for 6% of its value.
Scoreboards were great, you were getting stuff multiple times a day if you played for a couple of hours. With this current system, as a casual player who maybe plays maybe 2 to 4 hours per week, It takes forever to unlock a page where you can finally pick something. Boring, and what do you get? Nothing all that great until many many weeks into it (for casuals like I've become). So I already just said 'nah, not that into the grind anymore'. I just build stuff now.
Like to see Minerva and the other gold bullion Trader have more items for sale that came from previous scoreboards Fallout first prizes and regular prizes for people that missed those scoreboards and would like to get some of them Camp items apparel skins the jetpack from the first season skin.
Clearly you’ve not been paying attention to fallout 76 because it’s Giuseppe Della Ripa over at the Whitespring that sells the majority of old scoreboard rewards. It’s only items added to Mortimer at crater and Samuel at foundation that Minerva will ultimately sell at a discount.
Gamer Aviator is completely wrong when they say the Tesla cannon mods will appear in the atomic shop. Because they won’t, they be added to Giuseppe Della Ripa inventory. It’s only the Tesla Cannon weapon itself that will ever be sold for atom. 1500 atoms to be exact, just like the cold shoulder or auto axe. The idea being that you could grind the 500 (each) stamps need for the auto axe and cold shoulder or you can spend 1500 atoms and skip the grind on all characters. Which I recommend especially for the cold shoulder as it’s a great levelling weapon. I think eventually the circuit breaker will be added to the shop and the Cremator will be added to Giuseppe. It usually a six months delay between being featured on the scoreboard and being added to Giuseppe, with another six months to a year delay before being sold on the atomic shop.
@@Zabzim I actually saw the Circuit Breaker being sold for stamps today. I was checking for nuka plans and spotted it.
I need something to use gold on, i have not needed an item that cost gold in a long long time.
@@Zabzim Even the Autoaxe is available now through Giussepee
Not me. I earned a reward and you just get to have it after the season? If they did it that way then I'd never play the season just buy the things I want with gold after it's over. Treasury notes can AFK'd at a couple seasonal events and quickly become worthless, putting scoreboard items behind gold bullion then makes those scoreboard items just as worthless while slightly evaluating the value of the gold bullion. You missed out just use a different skin.
Rip, pinky and the brain. 🧠 those molerats shall be remembered fondly.
fortunately molerats are easy to come by in appalachia.
I gave up 2 months ago. Simply not worth the time or effort. They have the wrong ppl in the job.
@@billyfunt61 like in their other games, ESO has similar problems
There is one thing that gives purchasesing atoms an increases its value. I play multiple different characters. All skins and camp items are usable by every one of characters, while consumables are for only one. Not a huge deal but it can change the calculations.
That’s a very good point. Thank you!
@@Gamer_Aviator yes especially shelters. they are huge value for money considering they'll be unlocked for ALL your characters only when they're on sale. The prices for new shelters are obscene enough to give them a pass till they're on sale though.
people don't play multiple characters though (as in: not all players do) - i only play one character on the account, i see no reason to play a second (if i want to change BUilds i just go to the Perk Card rack and switch over, then pick up a couple weapons).
so in a way, people who 'play one character' are 'getting screwed over'.... (if you just go by data/costs) lol
@@Munenushi back in the day we had multiple characters because scrip limits and stuff. probably dont need multiple characters as much now other than for storing things youd like to collect
@Munenushi most camp builders do play multiple characters so they can have many camps. I have 17 camps that I like. One character is a mothman cultists, and has several mothman themed camps. Another is a Responserd, a BOS, and a trader with a brewery, trading post, ect. For camp builder atoms can have a compounding value in the order of magnitude by number of characters.
Would like Bethesda to allow you to complete a previous missed season for caps or Atoms.
Inflation? In Fallout? Preposterous.
I do hope there is eventually a separate tab to put separate furnishings you are not fond of using, helps remove the clutter of Furnishings Plans when Base Building.
As for the current math calculations you made, I do pray this isn’t them just upping requirements for Scoreboards, a bunch of the Enclave stuff looks amazing tho.
I’m rank 231 on the current score board, have more than 3300 hours in game. More than 2k legendary modules just sitting there after attaining every perfect armour set and best in class weapons available over every build. Just cancelled fo1st cause there’s literally nothing for me to grind for (now every rare apparel will be available from murmuh apart from LC). Not bragging or whining, but I would like there to be things left to actually grind for, rather than relatively easy stuff everyone can get for running boring buggy caravans in the next update.
I know what you mean. Nothing left to spend 10k gold on, treasury notes just stacking up, gear is top spec and I don't want to run behind a cow's ass (If it actually moves).
similar to me, there's just no loot to chase. everyone gets everything
The caravans are completely worthless to bother with. I did them for a while and just stopped all together. Just don't care.
I'm already seeing that and I am just level 134 with about 700 hours in my first play through. I am not the greatest combat troop in these games so I am grinding knowing what I can get as I attain higher and higher levels. 50 levels back I made the observation that the things I needed caps and gold for then I didn't worry about now. Things crossed off my list. Tools to keep getting higher levels. It looks like the whole game is just a big time suck when you get down to it. I still like wasting real time playing though. Like reading a good novel that I can heavily influence. I'll keep playing. I've been playing Fallout for years. I resisted Fallout 76 until this spring but finally took the plunge. I would like to see some more main quests. I'm running out of stuff to keep me engaged.
same lmao cancelled FO1st. 4k hours here and rank 240+ on scoreboard. Have all the gear i want or need but im collecting dev room or other oddities on the side like lobbers etc which keeps the game somewhat alive lol...
i'll drop a 1 month sub every time there's a new season release but keeping it active throughout the whole season? wont do it anymore unless things change for the better.
Miss the old scoreboards 😢wish there was more rewards this season like a enclave prefab building towards the end just a thought 💭
Enclave prefab would be badass. Hoping we might get something like in the Atomic Shop.
@ fingers crossed 🤞🏻 love the videos you guys are funny 😂🫶🏻
I've been playing this as much as I can.
Times are changing, so I'm building memories of what will soon be gone.
Today was a good day. 😎
I miss the collectable season’s displayable poster!
Same.
Has that been replaced with the wide seasonal painting?
Love you guys. I’m a bit of a probability nerd myself. I assumed that something like this true. I don’t really care. I just Love this game. But thank you, thank you, thank you for grinding out the specifics and telling everyone! Really thank you.
You’re most welcome! We still love the game too. See ya out in the Wasteland.
Thank you for vindicating my decision to abandon 76 after 2000 levels.1000 on one character. I stopped playing after the last update. I am done with their broken mess in the name of some vague "future game play goal". I don't need any more surfboard shelves and lame skins.
Same. 2000 plus hours. Had enough chasing weapon skins. No mans sky, is a brilliant replacement
Well, glad you're still watching our content even if you don't play anymore. :)
Bye nerd
@@paulharris7660 I will have to check that out!
@@africansoldier9312 You do you. 🤭
They’ve gotten so greedy
Asking us to pay for objects already in the game is cheap or “lazy”. Thanks for validating that Bethesda is a business first.
I think you guys missed the biggest change this season though... They sneakily moved 200 atoms from the free path into the 1st path, meaning free to play players now only get 800 Atoms per season instead of 1000 like in previous seasons . You still get 2000 tickets per season like before, but now it's 800 for free players and 1200 for season pass / 1st players... This is obiviously a psychological trick to make the purchase of the 1500 atoms season pass more appealing... As now you kinda "Get" 1200 atoms back after your purchase, meaning you get the impression the season pass only cost you 300 atoms , versus 500 in the past.... But it's just them reshuffling the numbers and taking away some of your free atoms and putting them into the first loot pool. Still , it now makes it more appealing for free to play players to spend the atoms on season pass as they get 1200 of that 1500 investment back and they can in theory use the boosters to maybe try and recoup the 300 missing atoms through bonus page 2 atoms purchase... Or just settle with only getting 500 atoms per season once you substract the season pass purchase cost. I'd say well played bethesda on that one, as it does seem like it will make me purchase the season passes each season now and take in the 300 atoms loss, something I would not have considered when it was 500 loss... Heck maybe next season they will have only 600 in free path and 1400 in 1st path, making it so the season pass essentially pays itself, but nah, that would make it too transparent and would push less ppl to suscribe to first. They just want free to play players not to accumulate much atoms to eventually force them to buy atoms... So the fomo "Pay us 1500 atoms each season and play every day not to lose your investment" strategy seems to work on that end... Especially when that kick ass atomic shop purchase shows up and you're out of atoms and fomo kicks in. Sadly this is the world we live in , where studios wants you to be always poor in atoms and to play everyday, or pay that subscription fee and get atoms each month, unlimited storage and not have to waste 1500 of your atoms each season to hopefully get it back by the end of season if bethesda doesn't end season too abruptly like they did in the past.
It looks like Bethesda is actively going out of it's way to charge more and give less. I have even noticed less items in Atom shop bundles.
Yup, they’re trying to stretch things cause 76 is dying. They haven’t had much in the way of new content for awhile now. Skyline was nice but it was incredibly short.
Locking so many items behind the F1st paywall seems like a good way to drive away more players, or at least fail to keep them interested. Player totals spiked with the Amazon show's release but have been slowly dropping off since. I'm hopeful the raid will help but seeing how pug teams play sometimes, well I'm not 100%. Regardless, thanks for another informative video and take care.
The raid won't matter. It's one event and most people will find out the changes to perks will make for annoying changes. Unless you really want 15 points in endurance.
Lol that was to be expected. Those players realized how many bugs and crashes were in the game and called it quits. I said this when it happened. those new players were not gonna put up with that stuff. So now its back to the dedicated few. They messed up. Fumbled everything. The tv. Show was a perfect time to get things together.
For the past 3 seasons I've been trying to reach the second bonus page but this time i completely gave up right after reaching the first bonus page. The grind is soul draining and not worth it
Yeah i need to think long and hard about whether im having fun with this game.
I am not having fun playing any longer. I went back to FO4. Between the breaking and nerfing, I am done.
Same, just cancelled my 1st.. no protest or anything, just bored, I'm literally logging in just to do the daily score and nothing else.. so I decided I'm just not enjoying playing anymore. It's a case of "been there done that".. there is nothing new and the past couple of seasons haven't excited me and the weekly atom shop items have been "meh"
@bemusedkidney8619 Same here. The fun of playing just stopped.
@@bemusedkidney8619It might be time for me to walk away from 76 as well. At this point I log in to do the daily challenges. Every once in a while I'll get rid of a camp and build a new one.
@@chris5942 Its really everything breaking. And the little things breaking. Like they screwed up the basic player labels. The big thing this season was getting the V63 Carbine and plans for Legendary Box Mods. Well they broke VATS and commando builds. Learning legendary box mods is a grind and a half and thats gotten old.
I just want the game to work. Thats all.
Happy I stopped playing 76 right after 16. most of the stuff is reskinned. Only thing I see is the Tesla cannon.
Bonus page 2. I only buy the items, that I cannot buy with in game currency via vendors in game. So it has always been Perk Card points/coins. This season 18 and next 19, I am looking at Legendary modules and this is because the price in game has doubled and there seems to be less modules dropping per event.
I always reach level 150 and then see what items I like and unlock. Season 18, after choosing all the items I thought would be useful and I would use in game, I still had 41 items to unlock before access to Bonus Page 2 unlocked.
I remember back in the day when I reached rank 100, and got all the season rewards.
The number 1 item I care about is the perk coins everything else is whatever
Last season was the first one since they started doing seasons that I just sat the season out. I had been under-impressed by the season's rewards for a while, but season 18 had absolutely nothing that I cared about. Imagine my feigned surprise when season 19 is announced and - once again - there is literally nothing that I want. Where are the awesome items, like the greenhouse building set, or the clean sink or wood log door or or ghilli armor, or on and on. It is amazing how often Bethesda shoots themselves in the foot on these things trying to money-grub the players.
Do a report on Bethesda's only solution to keeping player counts high is introduce more grinding events and tasks - Cargo Runs, Scrapping Legendary items with an abysmal drop rate, constantly nerfing weapons to make them far less effective than when they are first introduced. Now a new Raider event with enemies that can one-shot kill you with no respawns and it must be done in teams, which ignores players that prefer satisfaction through single player game play. Now they are introducing the 4th star Legendary mod while many of us are still struggling with getting want we need with the one, two and three star mods. Sure you can purchase them at extremely high rates, I sell mine at a lot lower price. With caps topping at 40k what's the point of selling them at high prices? They should allow us to sell items for gold bullion and better yet melt gold we find in the wasteland into gold bullion.
Outside of rebuilding their buggy ass engine not much will keep people around.
@@lastwolflordThe whole idea behind the game was terrible. They made some sort of weird mutant “mmo” offspring where you have thousands of people playing but confine them to groups of a little over a dozen people 😂.. The story is garbage, I mean literally. The factions are terrible and boring. They create raiders who have pronouns and are lead by a bunch of women who attempt to sound tough but fail to do so 😂.. the foundation is pretty bland as well. The brotherhood was okay, but then you get the whole “oppressed woman” nonsense and the guy is able to be flirted with 😂… you can really tell who’s writing this garbage, it continued into Skyline Valley too with the communist lesbian ghoul couple.. The whole game should just be scrapped, it’s terrible. They’ve also completely abandoned the story aspect of fallout reducing it to building your “camp” grinding stupid currency for petty rewards and 200 different power armor skins.
I started this game 3 months ago when I was switching jobs and been having a blast. But now that I am working I don't know if I can keep up with the whole scoreboard grinding. Also as a data scientist your graphs gave me a nerdgasm 😊.
Data porn is always the best.
3rd page at rank 18, 5% boost on first page, 10% on second. But yeah i still miss the old scoreboard. On an aside first day with weeklies I'm rank 15,, two pages unlocked... with just dailies and 15% bonus..i expect to be at rank 25 by next reset. Also, i didn't this week, but i usually pop a scoreboost on Tuesdays and get all the weeklies done exceptt the 3 dailies.
Wish i’d seen this video before spending tickets on atoms 🤦♂️😢 I stopped my f.o 1st sub after they changed the scoreboard, and if you’re reading this & unhappy about getting screwed over, I encourage you to do the same, and TELL BETHESDA WHY ! Loudly, repeatedly. Shrinkflation has no place here.
Considering they are nerfing nuka nades and nerfed food magazines too even people who used to farm xp at west tek to get to 100 will have to grind way more.
I will definitely be playing a WHOLE lot less cause the goal will no longer be 150 plus personally.
I refuse to grind 30-50% more for the same amount of rewards.
Same here. I go to 100 and pretty much done at that point. There's a lot of items I don't want, so I don't buy them. Usually, I have tickets left over when season the season ends.
Technically it's not correct that nuka nades will be nerfed - the grenades will work exactly like they do on live now. What they did was balancing enemies with a smoother scaling, which results in that level 100 super mutants will have more health and but less resists, so armor piercing is less effective on them and in case of nuka nading you need more damage to achieve the same result.
I wish the seasons were somewhere between the old scoreboard and the new system 1 reward per rank, reach the next rank, decide whether you want that ugly skin for an armour you don't use, or keep the claim token. Last seasons rewards were very underwhelming for me, I did buy things I didn't want just to unlock the bonus pages, but this coming seasons rewards look much better and I should naturally be able to unlock it - that not enough items without 1st needs addressing though.
They need to set it 10 pages, 10 levels to a page. Not the random mess it is.
rather have old scoreboard, new one just feel strung out.
What get me they set up scoreboard as if you can pick items from last scoreboards like other games dose this system.
I personally play 76 simply because I love the franchise, lore, and just everything revolving around Fallout. Even with all the issues we have had, I still login and play daily.
Thank you guys for all your hard work, we greatly appreciate it. Love the channel!!
I see what youre saying about atoms vs time math, but what about for those of us who dont really need any of the other BP2 rewards? For example, in my case, level 1600, 1600 hours played, own everything for gold, half the legendary cards maxed, 100s of repair kits, modules and script. At what point is it worth it to just get the atoms lol. I suppose i could always use more modules for 4 stars, but sheeps are so quick to do. Im level 300 on the board, 4000+ tickets, most the stuff bought, so im in decision paralysis.
The answer to your question is absolutely incredibly simple. Don't waste your time leveling the scoreboard once you have all the items you want. Do something else with your life. I know everyone gets upset with that answer but you need to find balance in your life and invest your time elsewhere. It's not worth it and that truth will hit you really hard one day if it hasn't already.
Hilarious your prescription is "go do something else" while replying to YT comments in your free time. Look in the mirror. Just total avoidance of the question for this segment of the player base. Thanks for the advice I didn't ask for.
I'm canceling fo1st, and i don't see wanting to play the storage game when it's done.
Not for this video, but for too many reasons to list. i will shout out the ridiculously high shop prices for things i can't fit in my camp anyway.
They didn’t really think it through. At the end of it all, it’s reduced to buying items for your camp lol.. that’s what they’ve turned it into cause there is no end game, and once you’re done uncovering every location to explore, all that’s left it’s to cycle the grind fest events for pointless currency which you’ll eventually buy everything they have to offer and then it’s basically done. They don’t add more quests, stories and places to explore. Skyline was nice but for a large area it has very little in it to do.
@@Mitch_Conner75926 . Same for GTA 5 online, which is still making a killing on microtransacions. Thats the corporate mindset, cut corners for the cheapest payoff, too shortsighted to care about the damage theyre doing to their reputation. As long as they can get a decent group of cuckers who blow a quarter of their paycheck on microtransactions, this is what the industry is now, and theyll keep pushing the boundaries as much as they can.
I feel like you guys are missing the point a bit on 1st rewards vs F2P rewards. The idea is that 1st gets more items then F2P players. The value is in the amount of items, not necessarily the cost per item.
Giving me a bunch of 0 ticket player icons isn’t a reward.
what I finally realized was that the only way to get any where in the game is to become a fallout 1st member. so I joined so I could use the scrap box and amo box. it is the only way I could keep my weight down so I could fast travel. it freed up space in my stash box because of all the scrap I had in it. now I can put things in may stash box that I want to display. it is all about the money. if you are playing for free as a normal player you will only struggle. it will be hard to keep your weight down so you can fast travel. it will be hard to get enough scrap to build any thing because your stash box will always be full. and it will be hard to put anything on display because again your stash box is full. it will be hard to store any armor or weapon you want to keep but don't want to carry with you because again you stash box is full. I don't like it but it the only way I can enjoy the game is to pay to a fallout 1st member. I will play this way for awhile but if it becomes too expensive I may have to stop playing.
As I mentioned in the last video, Rich has commented about the 71>69 thing saying its a bug and they'll fix it, lets hope they follow through on that before the season drops or those poor mods in the beth discord are going to ragequit from non-stop rage messages.
That’s the sort of thing they have to fix, but IMO also the sort of thing someone should get fired over. That sort of piss poor QC shows that they’re either a bunch of amateurs who can’t do math or a bunch of apathetic a-holes who also can’t do math. I don’t know which one is worse.
another thing that may cause me to stop playing is there is so much of the game that dose not work right. challenges that don't work. I just had to put in a ticket to get my atoms for 3 challenges that didn't work. the quest all that glitters didn't work .A PC should have opened a door that he never opened and so I have to start the quest over form the start. the quest that should give you a reward for bring back tech data dose not work, can't get the pc to ask if you have found any tech data. and then there is all the crashes. many times the game will crash just before you finish an event so you don't get reward. they need to fix all this before people stop playing. it is like a store that you go to that you have to keep bringing back what you bought because it is broke and dose not work. if you had to keep bring stuff back to a store in the real world you would stop going to that store and they would go out of business
The best thing about their new system, is I like that you can buy ranks with Atoms. As a Raider/Funhouse/Circussy type builder, I have been a little sad I wouldn’t get what I really wanted this Season, which was the Raider Lodge, especially since I have been grinding trying to get it and am 3 levels short. I was so happy to discover this morning that I could get it buy it after all. Still fairly new-ish only lvl 210 on my first character though, so maybe this isn’t new? Lol
I wanted the nuka cola girl outfit, came into the shop the other week but was only FO1st, logged off and probably wont be back. I've done most everything i wanted to do anyway.
Level 655 2400 hours in ..great game but it almost crash every hour.. i just got the explosive and lightweight mod plan so i keep playing but the crashes make me think sometimes to quit fallout. Ps4 disc on a ps5.
I play since 2018 and the crashes on ps5 are worst then the release of fo76 .. that say something.
Rather fix the broken things first before adding more stuff
The worst is the hourly crashes that also happen during an event mostly toward the very end of said event.
I dont mind fewer items as long as they are better items. The season we are on is mostly paint. At least next season has pets.
Some of the rewards are later sold in the Atomic shop. Other items are added to the in game gold bullion or stamps venders. If I knew for certain that an item was going to be sold for gold bullion in game I wouldn't unlock it during the season. I'd save those tickets for Atom's. I'm always maxed out with gold bullion. Stamps are another story.
Id rather fewer pages. It's annoying to scroll through all the pages everytime you want to go to the final page. It doesn't take any more or less time to reach 100. I miss the old scoreboard for sure tho. But like the new scoreboard after 150...
They really need to default you to the last page unlocked instead of putting you on the first page every time.
To add to the buying ‘tickets’ I calculated the amount at the start of this season of going from rank 1-100 I believe was 30k atoms which is just laughable, I might have remembered wrong, but at now a level 97 on the Season I’m grinding out as much as I can, but I calculated my level buying to 100 to be just over 1k atoms which is doable, if I don’t get it for free first. Assuming Bethesda follows the same format, grind as far as you can get for free, and then pay for the cheapest way? What I’m doing now
This is really good info! Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
At the start of a new season I grind to get as much thru the season ranks as I can, but not XP grinding it. Then after about 2 weeks (or sometimes one week) I get a FO1st sub and that will get me through the rest of the season to the finish line. I don't mind spending the single month as I mostly just play this in the evenings.
With the scoreboards I continued playing beyond Rank 100 because you got some reward with every rank. Now I just stop doing daiyls and weeklys after rank 100 because I dont have the time to play all day to reach 150 and there is nothing in it for you between 100 and 150. Also the caravan add on was so bugged with high powered enemies swarming you and following you to the end of the run that a lot of people got frustrated. Now I can barely do a caravan alone and I find few people who are willing to do them even so they got better. The problem is if you sell people a crappy car from the start the dont want to buy your car later on even if you got out all the problems. Edit: With the new "Invaders from beyond" I played 12 missions so far and got 2 new plans and 10 x old plans I already have. Wtf?
I wish Bethesda would hire some actual quality programmers, because this game has been sitting on potential success, especially with the show coming with season 2.
Bethesda works in mysterious ways...
I'm a new player to 76 level 165, played previous Fallouts but never experienced the og scoreboard 😭
The most important thing playing F76 is, don't care to own anything. It's only possible if you have invested the last 6 years in the game as 1st, played all seasons and invested the time, or pay now with real money. And honestly, i have decided, to go with a RR themed camp, try to get all story and ingame stuff, sell anything i don't need, buy only the stuff, that is important. I spend atoms usually for Camp items, usually machines, that do something. And yes, i bought some of the collectrons, i don't need, and the RR stuff to get rid of the ugly metal and brick ingame walls. You have to decide. Do i really need that, or can i live without it? And yes, i have played a lot of events, and have some themed stuff to make some seasonal adjustments, but i am not building a whole camp only for halloween or Invaders events. Just switch some decoration and good.
Thx for all the info for reals
Any time! We love MATH!
The Auger PA Paint is for all PAs i guess. This kind of PA Paints usually costs 1200 atoms.
I love playing fallout 76 but I can never get to 150 the highest of garden it's 126 and I was on the final day of the season in my opinion they should make it to where the final page is accessible to everyone for the last couple days of the season silver majority player that cannot get to 150 can actually get the rewards since most of the people who can get to 150 of people spend money or super grind 24/7 but that's just my opinion
I’m at 176 and mostly got there with score boosters and running weekly/daily/daily within 24h, and also playing every double score weekend day. You can do it if you do the weeklies and dailies every day, but if you fall behind, it’s hard to catch up.
@Gamer_Aviator that's true you can but there's still quite a few people on this game that don't have the time to grind or grind double score or double XP weekends that's why I'm saying to make it more fair for the entire player base make it to where you can access at the very end of the season so even if you barely played the season you'll still have at least some tickets to buy what you want
@@Gamer_Aviator alot of ppl CANT play on weekends. I know I cant. Weekends are family time, ect ect.
Man, i think its finally time to hang the controller up on fallout76. Been hoping something cool and new would drop but the consistent grindfest Bethesda gives us for reskins and broken things has gotten to be too much.
My broken v63 carbine was last straw
i quit playing 3 months ago.. The game became stale , there is no incentive to keep going. As you mentioned, the item cost keeps going up but this is not the only issue. The main issue is that the items are nothing new, just reskins of existing items.. take that coffee maker.. they just give it a different colour and that's it.. then they expect players to spend more than they did for the same coffee maker they already have but in a different colour. It's not even a reskin but a "re-colour". Then issues with building you camps, like when using stairs.. suddenly you cant remove a floorboard that was attached and replace it.. at some point you expect certain issues to be fixed.. Bethesda never fixes things.. they only cause more issues.. "fix" one bug.. and create 10 new bugs.. I will never return to any Bethesda product. In my mind, Bethesda no longer is a game developer but a scam. A scam disguised as a game, promising all these great things should you buy their game.. but in reality they are selling you a defect product that they know they can't make work as intended. They hope to keep you engaged with some new colours or skins. making it look like they are constantly "busy" with the game.. do an update every now and then that doesn't really fix anything but you will keep hoping it will fix the issues you experience. Only a fool would return as a customer/gamer. Even their "Starfield" game suffers from the same issues that all their other games suffer from. In any other business that would mean you would be out of business.. And because the people keep spending money, even with the bugs they aren't able to fix, they have no reason to change.. they're still getting paid. You're basically saying "it's fine"... even though you might not say it with words.. you say it with your wallet.
Maybe going out of business is the end-goal. 😎
They turned 76 into a bastardized mess of fallout. It’s all been reduced to power armor skins and grinding events 😂..
The worst part about it? Even if all players canceled 1st for a few months so they get the idea that want the game FINNALLY fixed they probably would just shut down production on it since it not profitable.
@@rzwitdauncutYeah they have no intention of fixing it lol. It’s all grab and go, if it stops being profitable they just move on and abandon it.
Best thing about season 18 is I didn't like any of the rusted armor nor much of the Blue Ridge armor so I got to upgrade several legendary cards instead lol.
Edit: Great video chock full of data. You can tell you had fun making it despite the data trend.
I did not play at all last season. I got rank 4 and claimed zero rewards. Since this season started I have a couple hundred hrs already. I love it.
Sorry some folks don't like it. But I love it, and I really really love the raid.
We love raids too!!!
I save, buy what I REALLY want, and then cheapest to get the bonus page. Barely past Rank 180 just doing the dailies.
I want to see how the nuke storm for the camp compares to the mothman weather.
I completed two scoreboards ever since I got the game when it came out never knew anything about the scoreboards when I first played the game until Unstoppable I believe it was then I realized what those challenges were Florida unlock I smoked a lot of weed back that never really paid attention to the game scrapped a lot of stuff made some videos go to LDL 2000 live videos you should be able to see some of the Fallout 76 glitches I recorded but revenge of Zorb was the only scoreboard I completed and like I said I think the Unstoppable scoreboard I unlocked Piper the Ally and I think I got up to the brewing station gas pump skin well that's all I can really find in my inventory to show how far I got in that scoreboard the other scoreboards I would probably just never unlock the very first one or I did and it just gave me Caps or crap other kind of utilities you could probably buy or get free
Complete mile marker zero.
10:48 I'm completely fine with this lol most of these items are useless trash and I think their removal or shrinking indicates that a lot of players WEREN'T buying them... I know I'm not. If they're being replaced with actual camp items, skins, etc. then it's a good change. Seasons shouldn't be filled with items you can earn in-game ie bullion, carry weight boosters, lunchboxes, etc. You can buy these things from the vendors. I have 500 lunchboxes taking up space, I dumped 1000+ scrap kits months ago, I have 1000+ Treasury notes that I keep forgetting to turn in for gold. I have 300 carry weight boosters. These items are plentiful as it is. I wasn't redeeming more and I don't think other players are either. Maybe new players.
Also a suggestion: you guys should separate consumables like the aforementioned from actual exclusive seasonal items. If somebody doesn't redeem the lunchboxes this season, no big deal right? They'll always be in the game, just get some treasury notes. But if you don't redeem the enclave grill? Yeah, that's gone. Could show up in the atomic shop later, but let's just assume that like most items the opportunity is lost. I prioritize these items over consumables and I think a more accurate picture for most players on how long it takes to complete a season would be to focus on these items by themselves... And well, include atoms of course, I don't think anyone is passing those up either way.
It’s really not fair that all these games only cater to those who are hard grinders. What about all of us explorers? I’m sincerely sick of it. Some of us have jobs and responsibilities. I do not have the time to get through some of these grinds. No love for the rest of us? 💔
Fallout was suppose to be about exploring, stories and choices. Now they’ve bastardized it and turned it into a grind fest of stupid events for petty rewards and made power armor feel absolutely worthless 😂
When they sell me an awesome nuka launcher for real life money and then Nerf it 90 days later,sure makes it seem like they don't want me to play anymore.
It is difficult for me to understand everything you say because my native language is not English and I follow you with the help of the subtitles. I don't really understand why you say about not spending the tickets on atoms. I understand the logic behind it but, perhaps it's because I don't know how to use them well, I don't see much use in everything else they give me on that bonus page. All those other things I can get for free by playing and I'm not even crazy about getting them. I have lunchboxes saved from the ones they give away daily because I'm too lazy to go to Westech to farm exp. It's boring, laborious (keeping an eye on getting, crafting, and consuming a bunch of things to increase intelligence to get more exp), and it's not even that fast.
Those atoms are expensive in tickets, yes... but it's real money. The only way to get things that I might like from the atomic shop. And there are a lot of things in the season that I don't really care about like caps, icons, stamps or photo frames.
Right now, in this season finale, I have a lot of tickets and I'm missing things from the first bonus page and some from the last normal page (I was left without the first one) but I have almost everything else and I wonder do I really want a rusty turret or a "blacksmith" sign?
I don't know, if you see any error in my logic, advise me.
Here's why we say that it's a bad deal:
- 250 tickets is 10 ranks, which at rank > 150 takes about a week of doing all dailies/weeklies. If you can do them all in an hour, then it's 7 hours of gameplay.
- you can also get 250 tickets for $15 (purchasing 10 ranks at 25 tickets per rank, which will cost you 1500 atoms that you can get from the store for $15), so tickets have a value, whether you buy them or not. if you play for 7 hours to get 10 ranks and 250 tickets, then you were "paid" $15 for 7 hours of gameplay.
- you spend the $15 (250 tickets) to get 100 atoms.
- if you bought the atoms from the store they would cost you $1 (ONE DOLLAR)
- so effectively you were paid $15 for your time, and you traded it for $1 of rewards.
- just go buy 100 atoms for $1 and spend the 7 hours doing something else. or buy 1500 atoms for $15 and spend the 7 hours enjoying them.
Some people argue that they don't pay anything, and the tickets are free. This is a fallacy. You are paid in tickets for your time. At some point the principle of not paying any money for the game turns into blinders that keep you from seeing how badly you're being ripped off for your time. Time is the most valuable resource you have - you don't get any more of it. Don't squander it for 6% of its value.
Honestly, I don't grind for more non lore friendly skins and player icons I'll never use. I grind for the different currencies (Atoms, stamps, modules etc).
What I don't like is how you are force to claim "X" number of items you don't want before you can spam the level 150 page where the currencies are repeatable.
Let players unlock what they want and don't pigeon hole us into a bunch of things we don't want just to get the good stuff!
Opps forgot to say, great explanation and warning for players.
Thank you so much.
I can't wait to see you guys wearing the enclave outfits
Oh, it's happening!
Definitely.
They have the Fallout tv show that boosted popularity of the games to new heights and it seems since then they've just been fumbling the ball (mostly)
I mostly farm the perk coins from Bonus page 2, have taken the modules a couple of times. The 100 scrip seems like a typo - the 10 modules is 10 times the value!
Excellent video with clear and precise explanations - very well done!
Appreciate the analytical breakdown
my long rant about the increasing "grind" in games... :
There seems to be an increase (again) over the past while in the low-reward 'grind' and RNG (loot boxes, drops, etc) in non-mobile games, and if i may be so bold as being part Asian, an increased Asiatic influence - that is, in Asia "the grind" is seen as honorable, something of high value - because it took dedication and discipline to 'get' or 'complete' whatever it was (collection of something, end reward, etc). It literally is a popular (and not seen as negative really) thing... it 'echoes the suffering of life', and other philosophies, to Asiatic audiences.
(Aside from the 'got-ya' games, where small machines give out rewards randomly; there are even bags in shops, found in Japan for example (both large and small shops but mostly found in corner stores) - where customers pay a price then 'pull blindly' into the bag with their fingers, and see what celebrity/movie/game/etc item they got - hoping (RNG) they got the one they wanted/liked. This is normal in the East, where superstition is higher in general, if i may. It is a "fun" thing, even if they do not get the celebrity/movie/game/etc item they initially wanted)
Unfortunately for companies implementing these Eastern tactics (or hiring more Asiatic Employees) - the Western way of thinking of "the grind" is different... I'm not sure why they are trying to implement it so much in the West (USA, UK) because the stimulus-gratification ratio is far, far different in these regions.
There is hardly any Bartering at all in Western Shops IRL (ZERO in most places!) and "the grind" (especially if not action-packed or varied) is seen in a much more negative light (resulting in a very unsatisfying feel in the Western regions).
People in the West want to 'get what they pay for' - no tricks, no chance, no RNG - you saw something you wanted in the shop and you bought it right away, or saved up to buy it; for one solid price.
Games in the West kind of need to go back, try to lessen the 'Asian Grind' (eg. from JRPGs, KRPGs, etc) and make things more varied and satisfying for Westerners (eg. more rewards, more often) and for STATIC prices again, not RNG...or sadly, Devs; you may eventually bleed your American audience or not get the buyers/income you wanted - and then 'wonder why'...
Mole rats, unite!
Take your revenge from those scientists, still-beating hearts!
I would still take the atoms even if it's a dollar vs 10 $😂 all that other stuff is straight garbage what do I need lunchboxes and carry weight boosters that will only last me an hour . And the perk coins can literally be obtained by scrapping a few cards
21:10 you can enjoy something and still be critical of it. If the game isn’t going in the direction you prefer, criticism can be one of the best ways to let your voice be heard, and hopefully bring about positive changes.
There are many aspects of this game that I have been critical of for years. But I still enjoy it. Been playing since the stress test going into the beta.
I think it’s appropriate to hold them to a higher standard
I’m a new player that Downloaded it in august and played a decent amount then for a month and a half, just came back 2-4 days ago, and I still like it, I havent spent money on this game yet besides buying it, I have a little bit of items I’m at level 63 barely getting my Secret Service Armor and Making my Power armor sets (4-5) I have 1 set complete 💀…. And like no base budget besides crops I stole from people, I just bought the winter retreat and plan on making that a home/Base camp, area, with crops and resources for people to pick up (I also have like no resources since they cost gold and Atoms) but it’s ok I only need like 3-4 to prioritize my base needs
Presumably FO1st players are playing near daily. So it makes sense that it would take more ranks to get all the items, not to mention the fact that non FO1st players aren't even offered the items. Naturally if you play every day this is easy to do. I'm currently rank 220/100 with another week to go in S18. I've been rank 100 since wk4 of S18.
Have never finished a scoreboard. Everyweek theres at least 1-2 “broken” daily challenges, radstags mysteriously wont spawn anywhere when you need to kill some. Mirelurk eggs are mysteriously uncollectable but the mirelurk spawn next to them still activate, or convenient “maintenence” during the last hour and a half of the daily time window. Theyre copying Rockstars GTA 5 online blueprint of making thing more difficult by sabotaging things, like npcs that swerve into you when making deliveries or bugs that ruin mission that never get fixed but money exploits get patched immediately.
The mirelurk thing is annoying for sure. I usually re-roll radstags bc I hate hunting them. Maintenance is usually tied to a server, not a platform, other than the big season-type updates. You should be able to just bounce to a new server to finish.
I stopped playing since atomic shop "discount" offers and half of the score board was locked behind subscriptiom. It's impossible to earn a rewarding amount of atoms now by playing the game.
Have never spent a single € on ingame purchases or subscriptions.
It's weird how successful they can be while mostly ignoring fan feedback and rarely dealing with bugs. Sometimes I think we collectively let bathesda get away with too much. We joke about it being buggy because it's bathesda but I can't imagine other games lasting this long lol
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Yeah, I think this will be the last season I grind. Definitely want all the Enclave items. Thanks for the info!
I am myself am a Builder so I love that aspect of it also I also enjoy the role playing aspect because of the challenge for instance I like to play my mistress of mystery character only using The Sword and the revolver because it's a interesting challenge. Yeah the seasons kind of piss me off and I believe currently the scrapping system for the Legendary Weapons is just absolute horseshit it needs to be tweaked.
I am also a mainly a builder, and therefore totally unphased by the lame scoreboard :D -Noodle
Yea scrapping legends is BS Especially for the extremely small chance to unlock something. I mean 1% chance is obnoxious.
Yes, new legendary system sucks.
Should they just give you all the legendary mod plans? What do you want them to do? You can still get random weapon drops for the one in one quarter million chance of getting the item you want if you prefer to do it that way. You can even simply buy the mods you want. Why don't they just give players everything, see how long it takes them to get bored since there's nothing left to earn?
@zarda1484 you're a moron I didn't say that but the odds are too high when you scrap 400 fucking weapons and you only get one mod and no plan then there's something wrong with the system pull your head out of your ass take a deep fucking breathe.
Congratulations on the hard work paying off hope to see you in many more videos
I feel we are getting less and less each season, dont even get a scoreboard reward to show you finished the season
No, we don't We miss the original rewards and the the trophy poster board. We get the "wall art" now on page 10, and thats' supposed to be the finishing reward, but no one sees it that way, and many people don't even grab it.
@@Gamer_Aviator problem with the wall art is you can't even hang it up properly half the time. It will just have glitch issues with the wall.
If you even have camp space for it... I onlygot 2 season pictures & miss them. But I had 2 seasons I just struggled to even log in for the grind, and lost everything because I buy things at the end. Just felt even worse losing everything because I couldn't force myself to play.
Its nuts how inaccurate the ranks are for page unlocks. They pick weird level numbers
hey i got a big Question Why is the Stuff from the scoreboard Cost Soo Much Gold to Unlock them !!!!!
Yeah... Nicely done... Basically I just like playing. I want more big missions like the brotherhood storyline etc... I want GOOD skins.. not rainbow stuff and plushies. Not putting down people that like those things, just saying I don't like those things. I want mean looking black and gold armor skins, I want my flame covered hot rod PA repair rack back, things like that. I want items to buy to fix up my camp. Lets do.. a blacksmith shop, a mechanics bay? Better tool boxes, anvils, torches, a lift rack for cars to make it LOOK like a garage. I have been waiting for the enclave wall set to come back so I can buy it because it LOOKS nice.. Don;t get me wrong, if you want rainbow flags and walls... go for it! But it isn't my thing. I love the gameplay, I like the missions and expeditions, but, it reaches a point where you are doing the same things over and over and over and over again. There are missions I have tried a few times... and I am done with them, because they are a pain in the behind to do... Not interested. Give us more of the charge in and kill stuff missions that are challenging. I need 5800 tickets to buy the union armor and mods... at ten tickets per mission (IF run perfectly) Means 580 missions? Nope... Not even going to try. For people that have the determination and the time to do that? GREAT, but why are those of us who have less time punished? Thats what it feels like, a punishment for not playing enough. Give us reasons to stay in the game. I understand they are there to make money. I will buy atoms.. But they have to have something I am interested in buying before that happens. Gold bullion? Trying to save it up, I can fight to get it. And or buy it from the Wayward, but getting faction with Settlers and Raiders takes... weeks? Months? IF done every day? Can we all do them every day? Not that they are hard, but they are so limited that it is frustrating. Doing some of the events to gain faction, is NOT possible with one person, We try it with two, and... sometimes manage to complete them, and sometimes not. Often, I feel like they want us to get tired of it and give up. Fallout first paid for, but, probably not going to happen again.
I only get maybe an hour a day if I’m lucky. Season 18 was the first in awhile that I was able to finish. Thank you for the info, great stuff. Excited for the new season?