BMW E92 M3 S65 Conrod Bearings - EXAMPLE VIDEO - ACL - Plastigauge - Engine Mounts
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Redish Motorsport use this 2011 64k E92 M3 to show an example of how we carry out our comprehensive Conrod Bearing work.
The video includes the Plastigauge clearance measurement checks and data recording, along with engine mounts, also a look at these late-style 702/703 aluminium/tin rod bearings, and then examples of the early-style 088/089 copper/lead rod bearings.
More info, including price options, here:
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Redish Motorsport Ltd - Specialists for BMW M-Power vehicles.
Bristol, UK.
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Small companies like these, save the automotiveworld...
Great workmanship. it's good to know there are companies out there that still have high standards.
Del Johnson thanks Del 😀👍
This is work i wouldn't mind paying for because i know it will be done perfectly.
Thanks
Superb attention to detail. Mines an April 2010 E92 competition pack with 56000 miles on it , with 4 previous owners and judging by the amount of gravel i discovered underneath it's had a trackday or 2 , funnily enough my centre front tray is also missing , it was like that when I bought it from the main dealer ! , I replaced the 2 felt corner pieces myself. I change the oil with castrol 10w 60 and all the oil , air and pollen filters myself every 12 months regardless, which is only 3000 miles for me a bit overkill perhaps , as I do not trust main dealers to do the quality of work you guys do. If I decide to keep the car longer I will bring it to you guys for this doing, fantastic and informative video many thanks.
Thanks @E92 M3 GUY
Slight suggestion, since you've got a few track days and such, but a decent amount of daily driving, consider switching to mobil 1 0w40, since it helps deal with the tight rod bearing tolerances and other quirks of the S65. And so far I've only heard good things about it from people that use it
The quality and cleanliness of that workspace speaks volumes.
Thanks 1rewd1, appreciate the kind words!
This is the best video of rod bearings replacement on youtube
Im looking for an e92 m3 and my biggest fear is that in my country nobody has those mechanic skills
Its a pleasure to watch you work. Love your attention to detail..
This is the most comprehensive YT vid on rod bering work i've seen for a E92 M3. WI wish we had more shops like yours in the States. I thought I knew quite a bit about the S65 and rod bering replacement and I was wrong. Great vid Redish Auto +1 and subscribed.
How many garages are capable of making a video like this, I wonder? I would definitely choose you over many/any other specialist after watching this video, whether for a conrod bearing swap or for a basic service. Intelligence and understanding trump and ego and a fancy website any day, and they are worth paying for. Great stuff 👏
As someone thinking about buying an E92 M3 and being based in Bristol I’m definitely gonna give you a bell come service/repair time :)
Hi Jake, thanks for your message and I'm pleased to hear this. If there's anything we can help you with please let us know. Best of luck with your M3 purchase.
Redish..... great work and good video.
Not many companies these days go the extra mile by making sure the fine details are looked at.
You have sold me anyway and when its time for a bearing change, i will be giving you guys a call.
WOW! Man, you do solid and I mean SOLID work!!! I've never seen anyone ever do this level of detail in their work. If you ever know of someone in the States that does this good of a bearing job on a E9X m3 please let me know because most of the places I've looked into are complete hacks who don't even remove the subframe and rack. Good work cheers to you for doing it proper!
Wow, very helpful for me. I just bought my E92 which is a second hand one. But quite nice condition. Now i know how to make it working well. Thank you!
Wow what a fantastic detailed video. It’s great to see how much care and attention you put into this repair. Well done and thanks for sharing
Can’t thank you enough for your very detailed explanations! Not just because of the repairs, but so good to learn things.
At 4:14 you can see the exhaust pipe (left in shot) is hanging off, at least 2 of the brackets are not connected. He also spotted it and that really impressed me.
Never saw video like that, so much details. Very good job.
Your approach and demeanour is first class. Might consider coming to you for my own beemer.
When the mechanics take pride in the work. Really shows. Would gladly have my E90 shipped there to skip all the shoddy work going on in scandinavia.
That’s astonishing work. Very impressed.
Thanks Patryk - appreciate your comment.
Oh shit, Boards of Canada playing in the background, good stuff!
Loving the drum and bass tunes in the background.👍😄
Superb video! My last ///M3 (E36 evo) was stolen just as I was thinking of having this done. When I hopefully get an E9x ///M3 I will be budgeting for you to do the shells if they haven't already been done. Fantastic attention to detail.
Thanks Filly, sorry to hear about your Evo.
Attention to details is lovely, BTW who would give this video thumbs down :-(
Great video!
Thanks Spencer
Great music choice in the workshop.
Normal Normie thanks Normie! 😀
@@RedishMotorsportbmw agree with tunes. Are you listening to Podcast/mix or cd? have m6 e63 so you may see a visit from me this year. end up staying for the tunes
Awesome video! Will be taking my E92 M3 to you in spring!
great video...and the first time i've seen someone mention and how how the bearings contract from heat and wear...that really is shocking to see how much they close...
Great video James. Looking forward to getting mine done!
Thanks Rob, see you soon!
Fantastic video. Clear, concise, and pristine work product.
Excellent informative video- Thank you!
Well done, very imformative and professional. Enjoyed the video!
Confidence inspiring .......
Thanks Mark
Very professional 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Fourth time I've watched this now superbly detailed video.emailed you for a price but no reply maybe you will see this and get im touch.
Damn good taste in music man
Absolutely superb video
Keith Bown thanks Keith 😀👍
Thanks for taking the time to film and share this this terrific video. Why did you use the ACL aluminium/tin bearings? Customer preference or because you think they're best? What is your opinion on added clearance bearings such as the lead-copper BE ones?
LTJ Bukem @19:00 tho... gave you a sub just for that :)
Great job explaining everything and showing how you do everything 👍 I had one question for you though, at the very end of the video when you were showing the worn bearings and you were explaining how the bearing tightened up I was really curious how many miles did that engine have on it for it to tighten up like.
Best Con-Rod bearing shell replacement video I've seen by a mile. I'm doing some pre-purchase research to find out if I can afford these; I've never touched any engine block bearings, could you confirm that the crank big-ends don't need attention (no need to be measured for circularity or cylindrically ground)?
*PROFESSIONAL!*
Great video and very informative. I like what you did with the pink pen. Shows you that you torqued the bolts and won't need to second guess. Can you share what you used for that?
You ever thought of sticking radio 2 on in the background instead of drum and bass/ club music? Would drive me mental working with that going all day. Other than that, really good video. Good to see your methods put into action
I have the equivalent of radio 2 forced on me. My dream is run / club music. Don't assume your taste are best for everyone.
@@KRBY555 right back at you
@@brenrowe2042I know you are but what am I.
Would you ever think of going down to the bottom of the garden covering yourself in soil and pretending you're a potato to match your big potato head.?
Rowey mk1G60 you appear to be a total dribbling mong
LTJ BUKEM - Atlantis, good job
Boards of Canada....very nice!!
evoblade good spot!
awesome video and it looks like a truly awesome company aswell who actually care about their customers. do you work on the f10 m5? im in the market for one and im struggling to find a good specialist. i dont buy cars without knowing what could be the worst case scenario for a repair. what would be the rough cost of a rebuild on the 4.4 v8 used in the f10 m5? new from bmw they are over £20k lol..............
Really interesting to watch, not least the sheer attention to detail to do this right. One thing though.. and this may be a stupid question buutttt.... presumably there is an upper conrod bearing shell on the top side of the crank too.... should they too not ideally get replaced (though obviously that would require the head(s) to come off) or is it just the bottom bearing shells which are prone to wear? Thanks.
what tool do you use to unbolt the oil pan bolts?
Great question. It's a T30 Torx Socket. Approx 12x of them at the rear require a very special thin shaft to allow the T30 bit up inside the blind section of the sump. Hope this helps.
Great work but I can't help feeling that BMW should have recalled those with the lead / copper bearings and done the work themselves. They are selling and charging for a premium product. Would be nice to get premium service from BMW rather than just pushed out the door and left unsupported!
Great video with huge attention to detail.
You can't sold car with lead in it since 2008 or 2009. Rules are same for all
@@14KiloWhisky I work in the electronics industry and we moved to lead-free solders a long time ago because it was getting banned in the EU. Makes soldering more difficult, and re-working harder, but we just had to get on with it. We worked hard to convert across much earlier than we needed to and invested thousands on equipment which would work with the higher lead-free temperatures.
As for this, I think they must have referenced lead in the video and hence why I mentioned it.
Fantastic piece of information, thank you so much for sharing! However may I ask why are you using BMW Oem bolts rather than ARP? Forged ARP are much higher quality and need to be torqued once!
Might be cool to add a customer reaction to your videos 😃
Good idea!
How come you guys don't use BE bearings and ARP bolts? Awesome video.
I would like to do the same job to my e92 m3. Could you tell me the cost to the customer and how many Hours in labour. I would be happy for you to do the work as your bang on with the overall explanation. Be worth travelling to your location 🏴👍🏻
Welsh Hoonigan Hi there, many thanks for your kind words. Here is our price options for the E9x M3 Conrod Bearing work:
www.redish-motorsport.com/E90E92E93M3S65V8ConrodBearingShells.html
Hope this helps.
If we can help further please let us know.
Best regards,
James Redish 😀👍
Nice one. Looks like not all mechanics are cowboys out there.
Excellent video! Thanks!
Great video man. Awesome really awesome work. What is the paint pen you are using to mark the bolts? That’s a neat trick. Saves you second guessing your work
how are you supporting the engine while the subframe is removed? nice work
How much do you charge for rod bearings replacement?
Hi there,
Prices and more videos here:
www.redish-motorsport.com/E90E92E93M3S65V8ConrodBearingShells.html
Thanks 😀👍
Please make a video on e92 DCT oil change
Hi Kuba, good idea! We haven't got one of those videos yet have done the job many times. We'll make one!
Lovely attention to detail! Interesting to see your measurement stating the ACL standard basically have the same clearance as the BMW 702/703. Did you by any chance measure ACL' HX extended clearance as well?Thanks
Nice job 👍
Just curious, why don't you recommend the 17000 mile service interval? Have your oil/wear tests found something different to BMW's?
Hypersonik why would you want to leave it 17000 miles on a highly string performance engine. Most high performance cars have it done annually or every 3.5k-7k miles.
Great work and video. What is the part number for the VANOS "upgraded" hose/line for a 09' E63 M6? Thank you in advance
I have a question about the rod bearings issue on the e9x M3. I heard that changing the bearings were considered more of a temporary fix and there's really no permanent fix around the issue. Is this correct?
Thanks for the questions Thyny, that could be argued as correct - but it depending then how the new owner cares for the engine.
In theory these engines are likely to need at least 1 conrod bearing set replacement in their lifetime.
Some engines will need 2 or 3 if they are not cared for.
You're right in saying that 'just new bearings' isn't technically a cure for it.
That's because there isn't really a true guaranteed cure.
It's a wearable component and all moving parts have a lifespan of some degree.
It's best to class them as a slight consumable and then there will be no surprises.
Are you reusing the new rod bolts after removing them to check the plastigauge clearances? I thought the OEM stretch bolts are one-time use only.
Just heard LTJ bukem return to Atlantis in background at 19 mins
I understand the engine mounts but why get the power steering fluid changed during this, what's the connection please?
Very informative and helpful video. May I know which ACL rod bearing is recommended? H or HX?
Great video! Around how much will cost a job like that?. I just buy 2008 e92 M3.
What is the cost for this process . I am thinking about buying a 2011 with about 60000 miles. The previous owner is not sure if they have been changed and I dont want to take a chance.
Great video, I am looking at ACL bearings for my N20 bmw engine. I think I have early onset knock which is subtle and appears once warmed up.
With the ACL bearings, as they give a slightly larger clearance do you need to run a slightly thicker engine oil? Appreciate the M run 10-60, but mine is 0-30, so was going to run 5-40 which is the thickest recommended by bmw. I would be using plastiguage also.
Great to hear your thoughts.
When you’re checking clearances with the Plastigauge, do you torque the bolts just once or the full 3 times?
What is the part number for those ACL bearings ? Is it "8B1580HX-STD" ?
Hi Jim, it's 8B1580H-STD
No 'X'.
The 'X' would be for oversize.
Almost every S65 we've ever done have only needed 'H' (standard size) as they measure around 0.038 - 0.050mm using the BMW approved Plastigauge method.
Hope this helps.
Damn--wish you were on West(best) Coast USA! :D
Quick question about the ACL bearings. Are they all the same size for both the upper and lower? Usually some bearings are marked for both upper and lower uses
november 2010 m3 car! when did bmw finally fix these problems?
I need it in my M5 e60. Where n who is best in Northern California?
"No additional labor...". Those words have never been said to me.
where does BMW specify a tolerance of around 0.050?? all i can find in all of the BMW documentation is a tolerance of between 0.010 and 0.034mm i realise this was written for the 088/089 bearings but cant find any official documentation on AIR or BMW's ISTA/TIS of the clearance being any different?? am i missing something??
Do you prefer the ACL Bearings over the BE Bearings? I'm new to the S65 world from the LS where ACL and Clevite are the standard, not so much BE.
How much does all this cost? Considering one of these cars instead of a 95 r33 gtr.
aasou hi Aasou, here's some info on our price options: www.redish-motorsport.com/E90E92E93M3S65V8ConrodBearingShells.html
Thanks, James R 😀👍
Hey guys, have you ever used BE (clevite) bearings. I notice you use ACL bearings and wondering what you would suggest for very heavy track use?
I wish we had a shop like this in Texas. I’d be really comfortable buying an e92
this is what happens to cars in the country when it's raining almost every day of the year :) i live in Dubai and my BMW looks pristine underneath, car is from 2008...
this happens when the roads get salted , mix of water and salt is no good. that shit is nasty
Bottom of the M3 looks actually pretty decent
erttu. Couldn’t agree more. Living in the Midwest and in the rust belt, this is nothing.
Mine never sees rain, I've got a beater for bad weather.
@@jmoe2060 rain is fine. Salt + water isn't.. winters suck
@@muumuumu It's not the rain I mind, but rather driving through dirty, standing water. I'm in the deep south (U.S.). Thankfully we don't have to deal with road salt.
4:40 I believe that 'felt' material is deliberately sacrificial!
Much better to trash the (curb/dip screwup) contact area *only* w/o tearing up the expensive stuff it's attached to.
I patched mine with silicone sealer to get extra yrs but keeping it flexy, all the pcs were still there tho.
(Flat black, dirty and hidden, no one even knows it's there so crude effective repairs OK, replaceable aero feature only)
Hi, I have a couple of questions. Do you use normal engine oil to pre lubricate the new bearings or a special type of assembly lube? Also when you use the plastigauge does it ever stick to the bearing?
I need a US/East Coast shop that is this meticulous for this job....
Thanks Chris. Appreciate your kind words.
What the heck is a comrod?😏
Great video 👍
It's "conrod" and that's short for connecting rod
Great work really well instructed video. I’m actually looking at getting one and I’m only from Didsbury so not far from your shop. What sort of price is this job as I’d want it doing for price of mind straight away
JamesFlem hi James, thanks for the message. Here's some info on price options:
www.redish-motorsport.com/E90E92E93M3S65V8ConrodBearingShells.html
Thanks, James R 😀👍
So what is the procedure and torque values you would use on ARP bolts?
What would you say is a good cost to replace bearings? Parts and labor in the U.S.?
I never understood the exact point of measuring with Plastigauge. Both crank journals and bearings have specs what they have and if the measured tolerance deviates from the factory specs there is really not much that you can do about it anyways.
One of the new bearings could be out of tolerance. In which case you would not use that bearing and use another that was within tolerance. If none of the bearings are within tolerance on any particular connecting rod then it means the crankshaft is worn. In which case you may either need a different bearing size or a new crankshaft.
So Oem bolts are fine as well? Every one is saying ARP but idk
Did/do you use the new rod bolts or the old bolts when checking the tolerances with the plastiguage?
How do the Main bearings hold up ?
They said but how many times it needs to be done perfectly within 100 thousands miles
How much does this cost ? I’d love a m5 but this puts me off massively
Hi Cars Revved Up, Here's the price for the E92 M3 in this video:
www.redish-motorsport.com/E90E92E93M3S65V8ConrodBearingShells.html
And here's the price for the E60 M5 which you might be referring to:
www.redish-motorsport.com/E60E61M5S85ConrodBearingShells.html
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whats the cost to do rod bearings
Hi Tariq, here's our prices:
www.redish-motorsport.com/E90E92E93M3S65V8ConrodBearingShells.html
Are the ACL bearings a better option than OEM