John Carl Buechler and George P. Wilbur are so well-spoken, they have such detailed recollections of their experiences working on these films. You can tell they were both personally invested in the series. RIP John Carl, your legacy is immortal.
I actually like this mask. It does well hiding the eyes. Looks much more like the original than 4 and 5. The actors for Michael did well too. I like this Michael. The problem (as with a few Halloween movies) is the story. For me, the story tends to fuck up a lot more than the actors. I was kind of okay with the family stuff, but I really hate the thorn angle. This is why I'm glad they at least had Michael kill the whole cult and not be controlled. Though I like the movie's pace and kills, except the exploding head. They're more like Jason kills though. In this way, 4 was a better Halloween movie.
As I would agree with everything you said in your statement for the most part. I would respectfully disagree with the kills more like Jason piece, i do i understand you’re angle though. I think year after year, I think Michael’s rage only intensifies more and more with his ongoing search for Jamie. As a result as his rage intensifies his kills really ramp up in 6. I really felt in this one he took it up a few notches especially in the hospital room slaughtering the entire cult, very violent and horrifying. So I understand why the kills were so ramped up and violent.
While I am NOT a big fan of H6, I do appreciate the overall appearance of the mask--particularly because out of all the sequels, aside from H18, it does closely resemble the original 1978 mask! The thorn storyline shit is what killed this film for me ! This film had a potential to really be GOOD!
Halloween 6 was the first Halloween movie I saw in theaters. I was 10 years old. Even though it gets alot of hate I've always enjoyed this one. Good atmosphere atleast.
mask isn't perfect, but everything said here is why it is my 3rd favorite mask. I like that it got closer to the first one, and it fit the hulking Wilbur/Lerner version of the character.
I met George Wilbur at the H40 Convention. He really seemed out of it, but had moments of clarity. He also charged way to damn much for autograph/picture combo.
Bill Flynn what do you mean exactly with out of it ? I watched a video of dead meat, where he attends the H40 Con and George seemed off, like he was on drugs or something Edit: how much did he charge for a autograph/pic combo?
MrZTeddy He was very confused at times. On the panel he was searching for words, and sometimes hard to understand. But everyone seemed concerned, like he was going to stroke-out or something. When I talked to him and shook his hand, he was gracious and polite, but glazed over. I think it was $60 for the autograph/pic combo. I needed all my signatures so I just paid $40 for the signature (too much anyhow). It seemed like he was generally pretty frail.
Bill Flynn I think it has something to do with his wife. I’ve heard that his wife died 2 years ago and that he’s not all there because it understandably shook him so much. Sucks seeing him like that. Hope he gets better.
Halloween 6 imo, nailed the mask, yes. As a matter of fact, outside of H4 being my favorite, H6 stands out for so many reasons. Michael walking fast down the hallway, Donald Pleasence' presence, Michael once again driving, Paul Rudd, Michael dismantling the doctors, and that proverbial spike in the wall.
I always thought the best masks of Michael were in the original and especially part II I thought those mask fit the people who wore its faces Alot better than the later sequels, after the first 2 movies I always thought the mask wasn't that great for it to make the movies I mean some later ones weren't horrible but they just weren't as good
H6 was great did fill in gaps of the story made sense too. But, I had no idea someone could be Mickey Rooney's (great actor/comedian) body double stuntman played Michael Myers.
You definitely gotta give it up for the tone and atmosphere in both cuts of 6, for the most part on the theatrical side. I always thought they did a great job making what we didn't know, like the Man in Black and stuff like that, a little more center stage than Michael while never outshining him. The Producer's Cut has that feel a bit, like, Michael is just hanging out with these people, standing around and taking orders. Really kind of takes away from the whole "evil on two legs" thing. I always appreciated the theatrical version for at least nixing that, albiet creating a version of the film where no questions were really answered and the Cult of Thorn is more or less a science project. I think we could all pass on knowing who fathered Jamie's kid as well.. that part of things simply had no reason to be there. I guess it HAD to be innocent blood, though. That's the only concrete reason I can think of for the baby being there.
darkman7584 The entire ending. The guy’s name is A. Michael Lerner. He did the entire operating room massacre and the lead up to it, he then chases the doctor down the hall and smashes his face thru the gate (that doctor was played by his real life Dad, Fred Lerner, who was the stunt coordinator), and then the entire laboratory scene - choking Kara, reaching for Danny, getting plunged with syringes, the pipe smackdown by Tommy, etc.
But Tina in part 5 was possibly the best actress of the entire series!!! Until Sherri knocked her off the mantle with that historic H2 performance I so just made myself sick!!! #trollingfail
@@iamthatguyfromslipknot1137 U did hear he got arrested for rape some actress so far in the world horror actress Rose McGowan who plays Tatum in Scream.
@@SparkyMarkyMark23 yeah I know that but why are you not surprised he did rape any of the actresses from the Halloween movies,, why just them..??.. What because they were bad movies.??...
@@iamthatguyfromslipknot1137 I don't know but non of the other actresses from Harvey Weinstine's early produced films. & Also from other projects from 1996, Hellraiser Films & Crow City Of Angels.
Well in my OPINION this movies atmosphere hit it on the mark except the mountains in the back ground and the mask was ok but it still sucked it looked fake and all clumpy then the jumpsuit was all faded its was a bit better than 4 nd 5 nd h20 but 5 fucked it all up with that thorn cult bullshit to me h2 was the best sequel nd h6 was a shit show I'll watch it when it comes out during the amc 31 days of Halloween shows it but for me to be like oh I want to watch the Halloween movie 6 would be the last one on my mind
How many times do we have to hear a story about some idiot producer who fucks up everything and destroys the flow of a movie? They replace George P Wilbur because he was too big? What kind of shithead looks at a movie monster and thinks "he needs to be smaller" ? Micheal could be 8 feet tall, for all I care.
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John Carl Buechler and George P. Wilbur are so well-spoken, they have such detailed recollections of their experiences working on these films. You can tell they were both personally invested in the series. RIP John Carl, your legacy is immortal.
RIP John Carl Buechler.
RIP John carl buechler
Fantastic Effects Artist
I worked for John on this.
I actually like this mask. It does well hiding the eyes. Looks much more like the original than 4 and 5. The actors for Michael did well too. I like this Michael. The problem (as with a few Halloween movies) is the story. For me, the story tends to fuck up a lot more than the actors. I was kind of okay with the family stuff, but I really hate the thorn angle. This is why I'm glad they at least had Michael kill the whole cult and not be controlled. Though I like the movie's pace and kills, except the exploding head. They're more like Jason kills though. In this way, 4 was a better Halloween movie.
As I would agree with everything you said in your statement for the most part. I would respectfully disagree with the kills more like Jason piece, i do i understand you’re angle though. I think year after year, I think Michael’s rage only intensifies more and more with his ongoing search for Jamie. As a result as his rage intensifies his kills really ramp up in 6. I really felt in this one he took it up a few notches especially in the hospital room slaughtering the entire cult, very violent and horrifying. So I understand why the kills were so ramped up and violent.
RIP John Carl Buechler
He Will Be Missed Rest In Peace Amen😑🙏🏻👼🏻😢😪
A great guy to his fans. He’ll be missed!
And it still looked nothing like the Shatner mask
H6 mask is GREAT.. They nailed it unlike H20 with their multiple masks.
That CGI Mask tho. :P
Chris Durand who Michael Myers in Halloween H20 actually wore the same Myers mask the George Wilbur wore in Halloween 6 at the begining of H20
H20 mask was good
thanks, really like hearing from John Carl Buechler
@SceneMissingFilms wow your a douche
As soon as I heard them ripping the H5 mask it gets a thumbs up from me! Man I can't stand that thing. Plus H6 is one of my favorites.
While I am NOT a big fan of H6, I do appreciate the overall appearance of the mask--particularly because out of all the sequels, aside from H18, it does closely resemble the original 1978 mask! The thorn storyline shit is what killed this film for me ! This film had a potential to really be GOOD!
George Wilbur was a great Michael, and seems like the coolest guy ever
H6 had the best atmosphere.
Nah, 4 did
@@SuperColonel91 4 tried so hard to emulate the original’s atmosphere though
@@CryingLord I disagree
Great video, thank you. I've seen pretty much all the little documentaries and things like this, so it's really cool to see something I haven't seen
This is a badass video thank you to all the horror fans and directors y’all the real mvp”s
Omg thank you so much for uploading these. Can't get them on the uk releases!
H6 Michael is BADASS!
At 9:51 you can see mountains in the background; more "Hollywood Hills" than Haddonfield, Illinois
RIP John Carl 😔
The movie is an absolute cluster f#ck but I did love how the mask looked in it.
Michael had a hump on his back in this one. Look at timestamp 2:55.
Watch the producers cut
I agree, movie sucks, but the mask and effects are pretty good looking.
Halloween 6 was the first Halloween movie I saw in theaters. I was 10 years old. Even though it gets alot of hate I've always enjoyed this one. Good atmosphere atleast.
They obviously had good intentions but ultimately failed.
mask isn't perfect, but everything said here is why it is my 3rd favorite mask. I like that it got closer to the first one, and it fit the hulking Wilbur/Lerner version of the character.
I met George Wilbur at the H40 Convention. He really seemed out of it, but had moments of clarity. He also charged way to damn much for autograph/picture combo.
Bill Flynn what do you mean exactly with out of it ? I watched a video of dead meat, where he attends the H40 Con and George seemed off, like he was on drugs or something
Edit: how much did he charge for a autograph/pic combo?
MrZTeddy He was very confused at times. On the panel he was searching for words, and sometimes hard to understand. But everyone seemed concerned, like he was going to stroke-out or something. When I talked to him and shook his hand, he was gracious and polite, but glazed over. I think it was $60 for the autograph/pic combo. I needed all my signatures so I just paid $40 for the signature (too much anyhow). It seemed like he was generally pretty frail.
Bill Flynn I think it has something to do with his wife. I’ve heard that his wife died 2 years ago and that he’s not all there because it understandably shook him so much. Sucks seeing him like that. Hope he gets better.
@@kyber5891 I heard that as well. He was very nice.
He's also really old by now too!
RIP John Carl Buechler....
Halloween 6 imo, nailed the mask, yes. As a matter of fact, outside of H4 being my favorite, H6 stands out for so many reasons. Michael walking fast down the hallway, Donald Pleasence' presence, Michael once again driving, Paul Rudd, Michael dismantling the doctors, and that proverbial spike in the wall.
The killing of the mom out by the clothes lines was intense, even though it didn't show much.
I've seen fan films on RUclips with better plots and stories than what Hollywood has put out in the last 20 years.
RIP JCB.
I always thought the best masks of Michael were in the original and especially part II I thought those mask fit the people who wore its faces Alot better than the later sequels, after the first 2 movies I always thought the mask wasn't that great for it to make the movies I mean some later ones weren't horrible but they just weren't as good
The mask from ll is the same mask from the original. It just got stretched out
I think part 6 was the last good Halloween movie that was made.
The other ones that followed were rather silly and sensless.
H6 was great did fill in gaps of the story made sense too.
But, I had no idea someone could be Mickey Rooney's (great actor/comedian) body double stuntman played Michael Myers.
still my 4th favorite of the franchise after the original 1978 halloween then halloween (2018) then halloween 4 then this movie
I co sign that order for sure
2:32 George P. Wilbur!
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The Jamie Kennedy mask lol
Anyone else think this was the best Halloween mask?
Most definitely, it had a very sinister wicked look all the others didn’t have.
Geroge p. Wilbur is the best Michael in my opinion, H4&H6 ❤️
I agree with top comment
@The Edge Of My Axe hes a robot
You definitely gotta give it up for the tone and atmosphere in both cuts of 6, for the most part on the theatrical side. I always thought they did a great job making what we didn't know, like the Man in Black and stuff like that, a little more center stage than Michael while never outshining him. The Producer's Cut has that feel a bit, like, Michael is just hanging out with these people, standing around and taking orders. Really kind of takes away from the whole "evil on two legs" thing. I always appreciated the theatrical version for at least nixing that, albiet creating a version of the film where no questions were really answered and the Cult of Thorn is more or less a science project. I think we could all pass on knowing who fathered Jamie's kid as well.. that part of things simply had no reason to be there. I guess it HAD to be innocent blood, though. That's the only concrete reason I can think of for the baby being there.
*what was with the gray coveralls?*
“Indelified” is a great word
“Irregardless” is not. I’m pretty sure neither are actual words
What scenes did the other actor playing myers during reshoots ?
darkman7584 The entire ending. The guy’s name is A. Michael Lerner. He did the entire operating room massacre and the lead up to it, he then chases the doctor down the hall and smashes his face thru the gate (that doctor was played by his real life Dad, Fred Lerner, who was the stunt coordinator), and then the entire laboratory scene - choking Kara, reaching for Danny, getting plunged with syringes, the pipe smackdown by Tommy, etc.
@@JustinChampa oh thats cool, thank you so much
Your channel rocks!!! I'm a special features whore! Thanks so much!!!
@@StacyLangenkamp I'll be watching!! Thx
I think this was the best mask
It comes pretty close to the original mask from the first 2 Halloweens
I think the mask in Halloween 6 looks a little more creepy than the ones on Halloween 4&5.
Is this from the Halloween 6 blue ray??
Not the 1 from echo-bridge it's from the scream factory 15 disc Halloween boxset & it's in the 4K as well.
I like Halloween 6 cuz Myers was a crazy killer but the movie had so much potential but the love the movie way better they h20 tho
I liked the mask from 5 way better than 4
Johnny Flores really?
just got done seeing H40 way better than any other sequel part 6 was a crap movie and so was 5
But Tina in part 5 was possibly the best actress of the entire series!!! Until Sherri knocked her off the mantle with that historic H2 performance
I so just made myself sick!!! #trollingfail
@@TheAngryUnboxingNerdMikeTapp naw bro Tina what's the most annoying character of the entire franchise
@@josephmendoza6993 lol big-time!! I was totally kidding
H40 had a dumb plot
Lol let's not over blow h4o
My feelings about Halloween 6, far from the best far the worst
I've always hated the cult bs
I'm not surprised that non of the actresses Of The Halloween Films had come forward with allegations against Harvey Weinstein.
Why..??..
@@iamthatguyfromslipknot1137 U did hear he got arrested for rape some actress so far in the world horror actress Rose McGowan who plays Tatum in Scream.
@@iamthatguyfromslipknot1137 Not only he raped women, he ruined good films.
@@SparkyMarkyMark23 yeah I know that but why are you not surprised he did rape any of the actresses from the Halloween movies,, why just them..??.. What because they were bad movies.??...
@@iamthatguyfromslipknot1137 I don't know but non of the other actresses from Harvey Weinstine's early produced films. & Also from other projects from 1996, Hellraiser Films & Crow City Of Angels.
Mask was horrible. Did he say he took it off the poster of part 4? That maybe the worst mask out of all of them
Well the poster from part 4 featured the original mask from 1978 not the actual one in the film so maybe that’s why they used it.
Well in my OPINION this movies atmosphere hit it on the mark except the mountains in the back ground and the mask was ok but it still sucked it looked fake and all clumpy then the jumpsuit was all faded its was a bit better than 4 nd 5 nd h20 but 5 fucked it all up with that thorn cult bullshit to me h2 was the best sequel nd h6 was a shit show I'll watch it when it comes out during the amc 31 days of Halloween shows it but for me to be like oh I want to watch the Halloween movie 6 would be the last one on my mind
this movie was an unprofessional senseless piece of shit
Hands down the worst sequel of Halloween
Yeah because Resurrection was just so good...
Busta Rhymes: *"Hold my beer..."*
as a standalone movie its ok but in the halloween franchise storywise this flick is an absolutely joke!!!! mad garbage
the man who never lived I think h6 is one of the better Halloween films behind h4 and the original
In no way is the producers cut one of the worst
I am sorry that mask was so bad 👎and the movie as well just bad
I love the h6 mask
@Nathaniel Ruff but its implied that Myers rapes Jaime in the producers cut, just why? Thats not the shape.
Why the hell cant they ever get the damn mask right???? That shit is annoying. And the stuff walk from the other michaels 🤦🏾♀️
its not like it was some great looking mask. who cares
How many times do we have to hear a story about some idiot producer who fucks up everything and destroys the flow of a movie? They replace George P Wilbur because he was too big? What kind of shithead looks at a movie monster and thinks "he needs to be smaller" ? Micheal could be 8 feet tall, for all I care.
Did a bad job on the mask