Examples of invitational formats: Swiss www.start.gg/tournament/swiss-example/events Double elim/Round robin www.start.gg/tournament/summit-example/events
i hope more TOs would watch this video, it raises so many good points for discussion. Invitationals are my favorite format to watch, i wish the best for such events!
Thank you for the kind words! The Cheat (TO for the last few Summits) and JeB (TO for Eggdog Invitational) replied and gave their thoughts on my Reddit post on r/ssbm, idk if JeB will change their format for Eggdog Inv 2 but I’m glad he at least noticed it. And local/regional TOs like myself end up hosting a lot of invitationals too, which I think can especially benefit from a 32 Swiss pool + double elim gauntlet stage. Ludwig and Aiden have already done Swiss a bunch of times (LSI, LACS5, SoCal star league 1-6) but I think their format can also be tweaked a bit to benefit lower seeds more, I understand their position tho. We’ll have to wait and see if Swiss starts to become more popular again!
I know swiss format mainly from card game tournaments, I thought the main benefit was that people would fight other players close to their skill level in the context of a ~1000 player tournament. How would it work in a group of ~16 players who you would hope are around equal skill level.
@@Team-Eclipse6024 so in an invitational, there may be most of the top 10, some top 20, and usually a few top 50 or top 100 or not even ranked players. My format for Swiss does not eliminate anyone from the Swiss portion bc it’s such a small bracket, and instead seed the divisions that players will participate in later in the event. In a round robin invitational format, a lot of the time there are the same amount of winless players compared to double elimination, so giving lower seeds the chance to fight each other while still being able to play higher seeds if they win is better than forcing players to have to upset players much higher ranked than them just for the chance to play someone closer to their level.
16-player round robin and late choosing opponents is best because there are fewer jabronis to cause upsets and the top 5 players I like get to win more 😊
Examples of invitational formats:
Swiss www.start.gg/tournament/swiss-example/events
Double elim/Round robin www.start.gg/tournament/summit-example/events
i hope more TOs would watch this video, it raises so many good points for discussion. Invitationals are my favorite format to watch, i wish the best for such events!
Thank you for the kind words! The Cheat (TO for the last few Summits) and JeB (TO for Eggdog Invitational) replied and gave their thoughts on my Reddit post on r/ssbm, idk if JeB will change their format for Eggdog Inv 2 but I’m glad he at least noticed it. And local/regional TOs like myself end up hosting a lot of invitationals too, which I think can especially benefit from a 32 Swiss pool + double elim gauntlet stage. Ludwig and Aiden have already done Swiss a bunch of times (LSI, LACS5, SoCal star league 1-6) but I think their format can also be tweaked a bit to benefit lower seeds more, I understand their position tho. We’ll have to wait and see if Swiss starts to become more popular again!
Commenting for algorithm. Nice vid 👍🏻
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I know swiss format mainly from card game tournaments, I thought the main benefit was that people would fight other players close to their skill level in the context of a ~1000 player tournament. How would it work in a group of ~16 players who you would hope are around equal skill level.
@@Team-Eclipse6024 so in an invitational, there may be most of the top 10, some top 20, and usually a few top 50 or top 100 or not even ranked players. My format for Swiss does not eliminate anyone from the Swiss portion bc it’s such a small bracket, and instead seed the divisions that players will participate in later in the event. In a round robin invitational format, a lot of the time there are the same amount of winless players compared to double elimination, so giving lower seeds the chance to fight each other while still being able to play higher seeds if they win is better than forcing players to have to upset players much higher ranked than them just for the chance to play someone closer to their level.
Great video, great music, and great explanations! I cant wait to try out some of these methods at my tekken and smash tournaments!
@@maverickrushin463 much appreciated! And best of luck!
16-player round robin and late choosing opponents is best because there are fewer jabronis to cause upsets and the top 5 players I like get to win more 😊
@@RafsterMC at least you’re honest about it, I feel like a lot of people aren’t upfront about it and use other ways to defend the normal summit format