Destiny 2 Conspiracy Theory (The Classes Identity)
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Why these? Obviously they need to keep them older so you don’t need dlc but they seem so out of place.
I think the titan exotics are not really for subclass verbs but more for their play style.
Void is about combining abilities and overshields so inmost light helps keeps the abilities/overshields going.
Solar is about stacking damage buffs while also staying alive so the melee based exotic makes sense since the titans melee can be reused.
Arc is about movement and chaining damage so the movement/damage exotic makes sense as well.
If I had to guess I would say that it would be because Bungie wants simple builds that play into the exotic, here stand in the well see how you get more bonuses, here you can be extra mobile and try to chain dodges into you weapons, here if you use one ability you can use the others, super simple build craft as opposed to giving everyone aeons and hoping for the best
As a hunter, I believe sixth coyote is to allow use for tempest strike/disorienting blow instead of focus on combination blow (if we got liars handshake).
On the other hand, Young Ahamkara is an interesting choice compared to Ophidia Spathe. As much as I think tripmines are a part of Solar Hunters identity for grenades, I feel like it's to nudge us away from healing grenades (and to stop newer players from blowing themselves up at the same time)
@@theremnants6807 yeah except one issue. We titans play solar as a means to sit and burn everyting that can be seen from that one spot, occasionally moving from one sunspot to the next
Wait, didn't contraverse hold/hoil/sixth coyote originally need you to purchase the forsaken pack? So they're basically giving you a free sample of the forsaken exotics, damn
This makes perfect sense to me. Ikora is a warlock. She understands warlock exotics and not hunter or titan.
Here warlock gear to help bolster your light synergy
Uhh Titan…I dunno have these punchy gloves and some chargey chest plate
@@KillerMeme Ikora should just give the Titans an exotic box of crayons.
@@Farengastlmao
@@Farengast facts
In a better world, Titans would get a random exotic armor missions from Zavala, Waocks from Ikora and Hunters from Hawthorne because we all know theres no perfect world where Hunters finally get a Vanguard leader
Warlock: Salt in the wound
Titan: Good exotics
Hunter: Alright. You got me.
Almost hurts just reading this
Tf you mean? Warlocks got it best. They’re the most babied class in the game😂
@@tee-ravis yeah but they nerfed it all
@@tee-ravis my fav too just for context
@@El_Danes that’s fine. They’re still good enough
Starfire reward immediately after nerf KEKW
And an ornament
"Jesse what the fuck does KEKW mean?"
Like fucking clockwork
@@averagebystander5133you and me both bud
@@LetMeEatItWe fucking knew it would happen ffs
Each choice was a previously meta defining play style characteristic for each class; the hunter had invis, dodge spam, and trip And titan got dunys, mini hammer spam, and overshield, i think bungie is taking notes on the most effective and favorite load outs from the community and providing them early on as a form of advertisement to new players, or to showcase the most recently balanced play-styles
Very good theory.
If so they kinda failed with starfire protocol
That would’ve been a really bad decision if that’s the case. Most new and casual players do not care about the meta. Not to mention that the meta changes over time.
Bungie is not supposed to tell players how to play the class. They’re supposed to present the basic identity and let players do whatever from there. But nowadays, class identity has been thrown out the window. You wanna have fun in Destiny, be a Titan. Best healer, best ability spam, best defense, most fun builds.
Also, those meta Hunter builds you mentioned are way more effective in pvp than in pve.
@@dracojay2596 What brings you to the conclusion that people dont play games to win and achieve. You get the occasional 40 year old dad playing on the lounge TV but in 2024 if your downloading D2 for the first time your most likely going to want to progress power wise like normal lil bro its okay that YOUR a bot but we aint lol
I like how titan gets 3 of the best neutral exotics instead of subclass based exotics because they are mostly niche or bad
I hate it sfm
Welll the class specific exotics arent bad, but the 3 they picked for us, are pretty much 3 of the 5 best exptics for EVERYTHING....so any other exotic looks...mid...in their presence
@@RebelOfTheNorm242 What are the other 2 in your top 5? Because IMO, after the main 3, the rest of the good ones are subclass specific.
@@RebelOfTheNorm242 a subclass specific exotic is bad if it’s outshone by a neutral exotic in its own subclass
@@ianjohnson3770 agreed. Hence why us Titans are watching and waiting to see if Bungie has the Gaul to need synthos.
I promise you, there will be a major outcry if they do
As a titan main I love the titan picks. They’re must haves for the identity of titans and even though they don’t match the elements idc bc those exotics all new titans should know how to use.
Skullfort is growing on me tho
@@denilsonthomas why bother shooting when you can slam your shoudler into their chest, head first dive into their smol bodies or camehaaa their face.
Synthoceps I’m the crucible is so addictive lol it sucks when I take them off cuz then my melee range is off you know what I mean
exactly my thought too
I remember 1 titan runing at the enemy flag with Synthoceps and wipe all the ine taking the flag… and a titan with dune marchers tooo… zoom zoom then melee
My take? They had to choose Sixth Coyote because the BASED Assassin's Cowl is locked behind Shadowkeep
This should be the pinned comment
Isnt contraverse holds and coyote behind forsaken paywalls as well? I remember that i had to buy forsaken for 8€ to be able to buy forsaken exotics from xur.
Forsaken is free now, maybe…? Don’t quote me
@@denilsonthomas Nope i had to buy it for pc. I just checked and they made the armor for free but last wish, the dungeon and all weapon exotics are still behind a paywall.
@@explicit862 they aren’t campaign locked though
Destiny 2 Veteran: “I already have this”.
Ikora: “But you could get a new roll”.
Destiny 2 Veteran: “But I could’ve gotten a Liars Handshake”.
"Ikora... I have two rolls."
I would've done that quest so fast if it was liar's, underrated in pvp
@@WackyEncapsulatedFruitCup "Ikora, that roll is ass..."
Screw that give me free legendary shards
Bungie: you’re over thinking this. We’re so out of touch it literally was random picks by the newest intern at HQ.
This!
Unlikely. An intern would likely be motivated and do a good job. This is an old head who has likely pocked exotics based on how cool the name was
@@domagojgalekovic8507 Lmaooo
FACTS!!!😢😢😢
No the choices were great for warlock and titan, I don't use hunter so idk but sythos for bonk hammer, HoIL is best in slot for void and dunes with arc is THE pvp go too, warlocks were also spot on.
Synthoceps: Mini Hammer
Dunemarchers: Linear Actuators chain lightning
HoIL: I have no clue
HOIL: nerfed.
HoIL is about ability upkeep which is the main focus of Void so it makes sense that it’d be the Void Titan focused exotic. It was only good on Arc because of 3.0 launch.
HoiL is good on all of them but really shines in Void Bulwark builds.
@@silimarfrothbeard8661 you can build into abilities on all sublclasses tho.
Hoil was so you're forced to buy forsaken for a better roll
i think sixth coyote makes sense because of the fact that arc dodge plays so much into the rest of the arc hunter’s usual kit
Its great for a tempest strike build
Except for the fact that combination blow (best arc hunter melee) literally makes it worthless cause it gives your class ability back
@@viciousgamer0619 I mean there are some *niche* spots where it's still worth it on CB, if your melee doesn't kill you can still dodge again to proc the jolt melee, but I think the real intent is to encourage more people to use DB. Because in all honesty, DB is a lot more fun to play with than CB
I would have chosen Lucky Raspberry or something imo… Shinobu’s Vow?
Literally Liar’s Handshake would’ve worked here hell even Assassin’s Cowl
All the titan ones make sense. Dunemarcher has the lightning chain with a melee, solar titan has mini hammers and synthos is amazing with them, and hoil for void because the barricade and void abilities charge slower
And the new seasonal exotic wqnts you to run arc and sprint all the time. Ik it's just this season, but all of that plays well together, even if it's not particularly potent
Actually, synthoceps make a lot of sense. Throwing hammmer (also known as bonk) is crazy op for dungeons and gm nightfalls and with synthoceps and the right mods and fragments with solar, you wont ever die and do crazy dps with a tractor canon when using bonk.
As a fellow crayon eating bonk titan, I agree with this.
They probably think us titans are too dumb to build craft around class specific exotics
Probs
And us constantly using other exotics and other specific builds to prove them frustratingly wrong is starting to become a satisfying goal to continually maintain
Skullfort is still better than Contact Brace
@@SantiagoGT15 congratulations. Nobody needed to have that said here.
@@SantiagoGT15 yes of course, grandma. And yes i know you also had an exotic that gave the use of death from above, seismic slam, and a wave of super energy in a forward direction all packaged in a pretty helmet 🙄
And also the titan ones are like the three best pieces you could get, basically for free right there
If you're not counting the falling star
Bungie: So what do titans like?
Intern: Punching stuff
Bungie: Do we have something punching and subclass related
Intern: Yeah we have point contact cannon brace for ar-
Bungie: Nah just give them synthoceps on all 3 subclass missions
Hahaha
That's a lost sector exotic, these have to be world drops
Bro I literall have synthocepts builds for every titan light subclass.
But let's nerf them first...
@@scarletnoct5807Say's who? they could throw in beyond light or early witch queen lost sector exotics.
what i find funny is that every alternative you named for titan are the exact exotics i've been using since forsaken
Bros been throwing since forsaken
The funny thing is all 3 titan exotics offered just recently got nerfed
My thoughts exactly.
synthoceps were never touched it was just glaives which nobody used synthoceps for anyways
And starfire for the warlocks🤦♂️. Could have given them sunbracers instead
same with the warlock exotics offered
As a Titan main I was very confused why I wasn’t using class specific exotic armor for the quest. Epic Bungie moment
I think they chose the exotics out of 2 categories.
1. They need to be somewhat Meta for the classes and viable for Endgame.
2. They are out of the first or forsaken year of Exotics.
Reasoning being for 1: they can be used in any content and improve either quality of life or the Performance of a subclass by itself without investing into a certain stat (for example strength in Liars Handshake and Doomfang Pauldrons)
Reasoning being for 2: If they took them out of any of the later Releases F2P/New Lights couldn't use them.
U don’t need strength for a liars handshake build… u are literally using combination blow
Then what about raiden flux?? Would've been a much better choice
Kinda a kick in the teeth to give us starfire after the massive nerf..
agreed
Lmao go to hunter with the spines you can spam trip mines like crazy
It's almost like the balancing team and marketing/store(?) teams are separate and don't talk to each other or something lol
Sixth coyote is awesome with strand. Double nades plus the double dodges. So many suspensions.
Synthocepts and Hammer is what I usually run. Brainless hammer chucking is like popping bubble wraps.
My friend says he very much prefers HoIL for Void out of the other subclass because class ability provides more for his team while it's just easy as Arc to proc everything.
Hunter arc class is more focused on speed than anything, but there aren't many Hunter exotics that boost speed specifically for arc. The closest would be stompees and those are also neutural.
The whole gimmic with Titans is "hold the line" but even this is making me scratch my head and making me quote TheRussianBadger when I ask "WHY."
I think frostees are closer than stompees, but it is still neutral. Building energy by simply sprinting and going faster after dodging fits well with arc hunter.
They could have used raijus harnes
Speed? What's the point of moving faster if everyone moves the same at 100 mobility? Just build around combination blow and watch as you forget to shoot a gun because your punching harder than a titan ever could
@@ValhallaRising27 amplify makes you go faster. As well, mobility doesn't even affect sprint speed but simply walking speed. Also, nobody was arguing the best way to use the subclass, but simply the core element of it.
Void is invisibility, trickery, with lures like your snare trap.
Solar is precision, gun-slinging, ideally revolving around your ability to land knives and buff your guns with radiance.
Arc is about being faster, with quick hand to hand combat. The subclass is focused both on your melee capability, but what it highlights more as a hunter class and as the arc strider is doing it fast and making you fast. Like a martial artist you hit fast, hard, and athletically.
Arc hunter is arguably about _speed._
They should make an excotic that changes your grapple to pull certain enemies towards you and you could then use a special melee interaction to deal damage and maybe apply a strand effect like sever or unravel
I guees the exotic chest piece on hunter its to have different exotic armor slots, but even then sixth coyote its weird, for arc especific, it could have been raiden flux or even raiju harness lmao
because they already gave you exotic arms with young ahamkara spine.
@@claudiomunoz5123 none of the ones he described were arms....
Raiju harness I think is shadowkeep exclusive
@@lordgrub12345 and sixth coyote its forsaken exclusive, and i dont have forsaken pack and i already got it,
young ahamkhara spine and liar handshake are exotic arms/gauntles
I think the design was just to give everyone good exotics. It just so happens that warlocks have pretty good class specific options. But some for hunter and titan aren't as good as the neutral ones. Like for arc hunter you could have chosen liars or lucky raspberry. But those aren't as good in high level content. So my guess would be that they wanted to give everyone exotics that could compete in harder stuff.
I get where you're coming from tho since the quests are literally subclass specific. But once again I'd guess they first had in mind what exotics are good.
But lucky raspberry and Liar’s handshake are much more viable in high in PvE than sixth coyote, Sixth Coyote is just bland and useless, ESPECIALLY on arcstrider who can already dodge for days. Lucky allows for pretty great grenade spam and liars doubles the damage of the melees.
@@nickr8662 I'd push back on that and say the sixth coyote is more viable for high end content than both liars and raspberry. (Also I should be clear that I mean like GMs, master raids, and master dungeons. In any other place you can get away with any loadout if you're skilled).
Liars - The big disadvantage of liars is just that it's a melee exotic. So you have to put yourself in a compromising position for it to work. And on top of that, you get the benefit after being meleed or after meleeing once already so you have a period where you're close to the enemy with no buffed melee. And that will often end with you getting killed. I also don't think the buff it gives is enough in most cases. Like you aren't 1 shotting champions without a dedicated 1-2 punch build and a whole lot of setup. (Even then I don't even know if that's possible right now since they just took away those well mods that empowered melees). And I'm not sure if that setup is worth the payoff, when you could kill champions with less effort with other builds from a safer distance.
Raspberry - This one's a bit more simple. It's really just that the raspberry empowers arcbolts and those aren't super duper strong. Other than that though I also think grenade regen is already pretty easy if you're building things well. With blorbs being so plentiful these days you can build nades pretty quickly. Also with subclass perks like devour. So raspberry provides an effect for a not so potent grenade which you could get pretty easily by other means.
Whereas with the sixth coyote you can pair it very nicely with void for an extra dodge to go invis. I think it's far from the best exotic for void (I love omni dearly), but it'll do just swell. And every subclass can benefit from having another melee or an extra reload. And on top of all that, I think there's something to be said about the ease of use of these exotics compared to the benefit you'll see. Keep in mind these exotics are tailored toward new players. The effects of the sixth coyote are pretty great for a really easy to use thing :)
Totally get where you're coming from though about it not being an arc focused exotic. But once again I think they're just going for ones that are good and easy. The sixth coyote is both. Just like ahamkara's and graviton. (Though the latter two do fit their respective subclasses better).
It feels like salt in the wound for them to nerf starfire then make that the solar exotic
On top of the new ornament lmao
Bruh, are you really that bummed out cause of this nerf?
@@Loderyod it was hit far too hard, people are comparing it to the hoil nerf but starfire was hit harder than that. "It's still good for natural game" yea, so is sunbracers. It's just trash now, near unusable.
@@axt_4254 It deserved it.
Source: I used it for the latter half of contest Root and for the entirety of contest King's Fall up until Oryx. It was beyond stupid.
Last season I got a friend into destiny who had never played before. He went in Completely blind and new to everything. I never realized how much information is thrown to us, and they new light tutorials really don’t scratch the surface. I can see an exotic, like liars handshake, seem underwhelming at first until you truly understand buildcrafting and synergy. I believe the exotics chosen as an grade to an existing subclass without having to build around it. Warlocks just have the most simple “subclass ability buff” exotics without a lot of building into it. I kinda see why they picked what they did, and they tried to balance the utility of the exotics rather than the best option you can craft into
I mean, starfire is very restrictive when it comes to your solar abilities. Your grenade, well, and an aspects are lock in by it being on. And probably about haft your fragments as well, along with your super and second aspect slot.
Though I guess that true for most solar warlock exotics.
My idea is that Bungie is giving these exotics out for free so new players will help up their useage. I know that doesn’t make sense for all of them, but I am looking at specific Synthoceps and Young Ahamkara’s Spine. Maybe a few others too could make sense.
don't forget the newly turned dogwater starfire protocol. They will use newbs using one of the 3 exotics they have as "proof" they didn't nerf it to hard while also reminding the plebs that it finally has an ornament for sale now.
@@harveyhouk775 yeah
@@harveyhouk775 you sound so jaded maybe take a break bud.
@@Darkrocmon I am not jaded if it's the truth lol. Besides starfire was like HOIL for me I knew it was to strong so i only used it when i really needed to carry.
Uh synthos and spine are both really good and definitely get used quite a but.
It's about making sure you get exotics in a variety of slots, instead of 2 gloves that fit subclass identity, you get a chest, helmet and boots for the exotic slot
Brotha I’m a Titan and I got no clue what Bungies ideal thought for optimal subclass buildcrafting
Dude that’s the point they don’t care about us lol. But we always find a way to survive and push back. Honestly though… being a Titan requires you to use your intellect to come up with viable builds, whereas Hunters and especially Warlocks get their builds hand-delivered to them with just equipping an Exotic armor piece. Crayons forever my Brother in Light ❤
Titan arc: the dunemarchers charge arc energy when running
Titan Solar: 90% of titans will use sythoceps for the solar throwing hammer melee
Titan void: the heart of imost light would work throughout all of the class but personally I think it works best with void
Bungie gave each class the best red war exotics they could think of
They can’t think of much cause Contraverse/ Heart of Inmost Light/Sixth Coyote are Forsaken lol
I ran the 6th Coyote chest piece for a LONG time. I think it's still my goto for Hunter. But it worked for my playstyle. That 2nd evade was a lifesaver with a scout at close range.
I don’t know about the Titan exotics, but the reason they didn’t give Hunter Liar’s Handshake is because it doesn’t work properly, and I think they know it, and just can’t be bothered to fix it.
I knew it, I knew i wasn't the only one
@@crossyfirezx9659 Oh no, it’s not just you, it’s everyone. Liar’s Handshake doesn’t work when you have Lethal Current equipped. Most of the community knows about the bug. It’s why Assassin’s Cowl has become more popular.
@Ranger 74352 And Titan friend thought it was a skill issue. Rotten punk..
@@Ranger74352 it half works, you just need to get the kill, once you hit combo X3 it happens much more often.
The real reason it doesn't matter is they ruined the synergy with 1-2 punch, you are better off just using assassin's cowl because you can make up most of the damage deficit, AND get the invis (and not care about the jolt)
@@meateaw I just miss my fun one-shot punch exotic working like it‘s supposed to 😔. Even with the nerfed damage bonus from 1-2 punch, it would still be pretty strong, if they’d just fix it so it worked properly. Justice for Liar’s Handshake ✊!
Bungie did that on purpose. They want a Titan to use that stuff just to have a reason to nerf it. They nerf damn near everything a Titan touches.
Side note. I’m not a Warlock main. It’s actually my least favorite class, but they had no business doing the well the way they did it with the launch or Final Shape. They already nerfed the well and removed the over shield. They didn’t have to destroy the well just to shine light on the new Radiance super. As a Titan main, I’ll be the first to admit that they did the Warlocks wrong with that one. Even I’m pissed about it.
Heart is great for void. Synthos are great for both solar supers. Dune is great when paired with arc shoulder charge due to its blinding and the chain from dunes.
While that’s true, they’re all still neutral and heart was my go-to for arc and I swapped to CotFH whenever I needed to super
I always thought of Titans as the “straight forward and efficient” class, so for me it makes sense that they got all neutral exotics - not need to worry about what exotic you need for a build of it works for all subclasses/neutral gameplay.
Hunters are the utilitarian class, with more combos and setups than the others. Sixth Coyote kind of makes sense for Arc, since that extra dodge can be used as a fail safe in case you didn’t get a kill or something, but also builds into the other subclasses.
Warlocks have the most unique and strange interactions and abilities, so it make sense for each of their exotics to reflect that and bolster even more uniqueness in their respective subclasses.
The titan one is easy, nobody at Bungie HQ plays titan so they just had to go with their gut
Generally speaking I play my titan fairly subclass neutrally, using almost exclusively exotics that are also neutral so I can switch to whichever element is most beneficial to the activity without needing to worry about changing the whole build
I kind of like that Ikora just hands out the titan starter kit for free. Makes my mission of indoctrinating my friends into the creed of crayons that much easier.
THE CREED OF CRAYONS LMAO
The "Coyote of Sith" is for bolas and dive suspend builds. It also allows for for spiderman movements which is what everyone else pretends to be with half truth sword skating.
you're right. nerf synthoceps. got it.
As a Titan, I choose to wear Lion Rampant as my exotic boots. My main reason was for the fact they offered better jump, as vanilla D2 didn't bode well for the jump ability for Titans. However, now I have a new reason. The last thing Lance Reddick was doing before his passing was playing Destiny. He was using his Titan account and had the Lion Rampant equipped. Now, in honor of Lance, I'll never take them off
I thought the same, and concluded that they are so used to merging warlock that of course they know which exotics to pick per class, and that they also don’t play their game enough to know the rest
As a hunter I only like using Jesters pants, dropping a blinding explosion is so freaking nice and helpful. Titansbane imo.
Young Ahamkara is for the new solar hunters to eventually grow up and learn how to spam mines and knives.
I can’t speak for titans, but as a hunter, the Six coyote was probably aimed to be used for its roll = another punch. When rolling near enemies, it instantly recharges a melee attack, and arc specifically on hunters focuses a great deal on close quarters melee.
Travelers Chosen and Heart of Inmost Light are still a sick combo of abilities for days
Young Ahamkara is great, but I feel like it’d be a terrible first exotic for a new player. It’s centered around spamming trip mines and the throwing knife loop, which limits a lot of possible play styles.
I feel like a more basic one that’s also versatile in regard to builds would be Athrys’s Embrace or Celestial Nighthawk.
The decisionmaking is also based around giving each class a different SLOT of armor. I assume if hunters got something like Liar's Handshake, they'd be expected to get a solar leg item instead of Young Ahamkara Spine.
The titan ones, though, I have no answer for.
Could have gone with Raiden Flux.
i’m super late but just started the game recently and 6th coyote is for arc because it’s the only class that can recharge its dodge on melee and recharge its melee with a dodge so it helps build for a arc melee charecter which is what i’m building as especially considering the arc upercut works in pvp and pve
How’s this idea: class specific emblems. For next year’s guardian games, create a class specific exotic emblem for each class. Hunters get an edgy all black emblem, warlocks get a nerdy one with books, and of course, titans get a crayon themed emblem. This doesn’t seem too far fetched because they have indulged community members before with the telesto event, so this feels possible
Titan made perfect sense to me, syntho for bonk, heart for soloing as void, dune for pvp as arc. Those 3 are very commonly used in those roles.
Hunter Coyote is for a Combo Blow Gamblers Dodge melee build, utilizing Arcs amplified and jolting effects with refreshing dodged through damage and melee, using it to create a never ending melee combat loop of punching and dodging.
Titan Dunemarchers are for the chain lightning effect which pairs well with Arc Fragment for creating a bolt of lightning that strikes random targets when killing targets with Arc damage. Chain exotic effect proca this, as well as initial charged melee kill.
Dunemarchers is the odd one out in that mix. If a new Titan gets Synthoceps and HOIL, they can build virtually any of the top tier PVE builds we've seen since Witch Queen for the Titan subclasses
The Sixth Coyote pick for arc is extra bizarre because that's the subclass that doesn't need the extra dodge at all with the melee > dodge > melee loop it's got
Six coyote makes perfect sense as an arc hunter when you wanna keep your dodge/combo blow up. Helps new players to the subclass from making a 'mistake' dodge and losing their combo. If I had anything less than idk, 1000+ hours on Destiny I could def do it
Hallowfire heart mentioned 🔥🔥🔥🔥 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
But fr, best titan exotic for solar ever, nothin beats that in end game activities and anything else where kills arent easy
I am going back to college post-military, and the number of students that are not paying attention, barely meeting criteria, and generally suck at everything while still passing is exactly the reason why stuff like this happens, imo.
I think there should be a questline for the Helm of Saint-14 it would be awesome if Bungie made a whole backstory about gaining the Saint’s trust enough so he gives you his helmet.
I think the titan armour makes sense: dune marchers are basically a good pick for neutral game in pvp (which titans usually use arc for). Syntho for the hamme build and heart is good for ability spam on void.
I've used heart of Inmost light with my void titan and it does work, just making sure the aspects match the way I play.
My take is they want to give you a good kick off with some pretty easy tasks that teach you how to navigate the game a little bit. The better exotics are saved for those that play to earn them. Because even for Warlock other than controverse hold they could have used other exotics that are better too. They also nerfed Starfire right before releasing it in this quest.
These are guesses for Bungie's titan picks:
Dunemarchers: More ad clear with shoulder charge/DFA
Synthos: Bonk
Hoil: Void overshield cycle
All are good picks imo
While you’re right, Bungie has been loudly proclaiming how they think we should play the game since Champions came out.
To be fair, Sixth Coyote allows an arcstrider to get unlimited melee since the basic melee refills your dodge and Gamblers refills melee
Making dunemarchers inflict jolt would be pretty cool and would finally make the damn things consistent.
Sixth coyote is actually perfect for hunters new to the game. It makes arc combo blow entirely forgiving.
I think it has something to do with warlocks being more built around abilities while titans focus more on tanking and their weapon combos. And then hunters is somewhere in the middle
1) They choose three different armor pieces to make sure you dont the same armor slot twice.
2) They dont want to give you the best of the best exotics just like that
3) They want you to try out a different playstyle without you having to gather the items for it
Sixth Coyote makes perfect sense, the arc subclass is all about melee, and your dodge resets melee if you're specced in a way that actually makes sense for the subclass.
As a titan main, my best guess is because these three are barely used. And although I use Dunemarchers for pvp and Schynto-... (I ain't typing all of that) with strand, they are easier to understand and use as a new light. Not talking about Heart of Inmost Light. That thing can be a beast.
I think they did it based on how I think so many people will have gotten the subclass specific stuff compared to specifically Contraverse Hold, which I didn't have access to until now
Sixth coyote double dodge was arc probably to be paired with lethal current, graviton forfeit was void for obvious extended invis, and I forgot what the gloves do
Ac/dc feedback would have been another great option for arc titan's, Ashen wake would have been a great option for solar titans if you couldn't get hallowfire. And for Void?, there's near endless options for that. Helm of saint 14, no backup plans, doom fang as mentioned in the video and more.
maybe they selected those based on what a new player might need? extra ability regen, duration for invis, extra ability slots and improved versions of stuff like sprinting and melee? i think it's more due to ease of use and variety that they did this, each class gets 3 different exotic armors, with different equip slots, and Hoil gives better regen overall compared to the flaming chestplate i feel.
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Each class has a difficulty starter base, titans being the easiest class to master due to its flexibility in both pvp and pve. As the Hunter class is tilted towards pvp, the Warlock class is tilted towards pve. Titans are players looking for balance; it is only necessary to give them subclass exotics to enhance the playstyle of their choice.
Running Lion Rampant with FINAL WARNING exotic sidearm on strand subclass
They wanted to give each class a choice between 3 very powerful exotics, the only reason the Warlock and 2 Hunter exotics fall in line with elemental synergy is because those are just the best exotics, the Titan is what makes this clear by having Dunemarchers, Synthoceps and Heart of Inmost Light, those are not only incredibly powerful, but also easy exotics to use, like Phoenix Cradle would’ve made more sense for solar but a new player will not as easily make use of that exotic, whereas Starfire Protocol is always working and literally just requires you to do any source of damage and it also just so happens to be for the solar subclass.
as someone whos using dunemarchers from the collections, I appreciate it....
Because titan doesn't have actual *GOOD* subclass specific exotics, every good exotic on titan is basically "punch harder" or "don't die".
Honestly for titans I think it's because those are actually really good exotics but are also a little on the niche side.
Take hallowfire, the main use of that exotic is to keep your super and do damage with your other abilities instead. Idk about most people but I always tried to use my super asap when I was a new player (back in destiny 1)
For Titans, although they’re all class-neutral exotics, they are some of the best exotics to make builds for those specific elements. However, they were probably chosen for lore implications more than builds. Heart of Inmost Light doesn’t say who the subject of the lore entry is, but with context clues it’s most likely Rezyl Azzir just before he became Dredgen Yor; and although Rezyl was a Striker, Thorn has been heavily tied to the Void since all the way back in D1 with the Thorn exotic bounty requiring you to get Void kills in the Crucible. Synthoceps for Solar makes sense because of the Bonk Hammer build, but it does have a SIVA ornament so it’s probably drawing some connection to Rasputin and how a lot of his tech was powered by Solar energy. I have no idea what the connection is with Dunemarchers and Arc other than the chain lightning from Linear Actuators and something about the Cabal… like the Colossus uses Arc shields. There’s probably something more substantial in the lore entry that I’m missing. There is an ornament for Dunemarchers called Meyrin’s Odyssey so maybe there’s a connection to the Black Armory? And there’s another ornament that makes it look like Ahamkara bones… There’s also a Titan who wears Dunemarchers in the lore named Siegfried, who is the first Titan in the Praxic Order which is typically made of Warlocks such as Aunor. It mentioned in the Wild Hunt Gauntlets that Siegfried is a Striker Titan. Siegfried does not like Eris Mourn and believes she’s a traitor.
The sixth coyote is for the melee build combination blows and lethal current
Heart of Inmost light is like my favorite titan exotic rn, just Arc grenade spam left and right
I thought about Hallowfire when doing the quest and I THINK they mostly just didn't want to tell new players to not use their super
Well as I see it warlock are indeed the in game medic. My arclock is constantly dropping rifts for others to rush through(sorry if arc buddy takes your kills) my arc hunter is the solo man with liars handshake. Never dying punching everything and rushing to downed players. I pair this with distance weapons and I cover every corner. Titan same as hunter with skullfort. Punch everything heal constantly and punch some more.
Hallowfire Heart is actually so underrated too, should def be the titan solar reward
I think the reason they didn't go with liar's for hunters is that eas part of the lightning gods package during plunder.
I’m not going to complain. I finally got Heart of Inmost Light. I’ve been trying to get that and now I do. I’m happy.
Makes perfect sense. Subclass Ability identity not subclass identity. Sytho-hammers, downward slam dunemarchers, controlled demo inmost light, void lock super nades (come on that one was easy), infinite tickle fingers, etc etc. teaches new players how to be creative with build crafting while touching every aspect of the subclass from fragments to passive effects syntho even works with supers. It’s just the elementary school of build craft gimmicks.
The sixth coyote can be combined with the new strand ability. You can leave two Threaded Specters instead of one.
At the same time, though, for the Titan class, those 3 exotics are the most used and are the most versatile, plus they have very simple exotic Traits for new players to understand and experiment with.
The synthoceps are actually really good for the solor bonk titan. That's actually what I have been running for a year now.
dunemarchers and synthoceps are two of the best exotics for titans period and they probably just wanted to give players good options that they can work towards
Sixth coyote gives two dodges, highly useful in a strand build for suspending dive
The choices seem to be exotics that are easy to grasp how to use them effectively, which would be best for players new to the game