Agreed. Bought a prebuilt from Corsair with the I9 14900KF and an Asus Prime Z790-P mobo and I'm RMAing it now. Worked great for a month and now can't even get it to post.
I just flashed my Gigabyte MB and it loads straight through Unreal game video codex for the first time. The MB now defaults to the correct Intel CPU settings instead of automatically overclocking even though you didn't ask it to. Check to see if you Motheboard has a new Bios.
It will always be skimp how i gratefully thank you. I had no idea about these problems. I just set a new 14900ks system for interior design rendering but after hundreds of try any of them ended with crashing and freezing just because the cpu tempreture was about 101 degrees. Then i disabled Intel Turbo Boost but cpu usage went down to %87 and cinebench(2024) score became 1291. I watched this video and followed the steps carefully. I enabled turbo boost again now CPU goes to %100, tempreture is about 60 degrees, stability is awesome, system works incredible fast. Cinebench 2024 score exploded like 1827. Thank you. You made it simple and clear. Really thank you.
For people with MSI motherboard, I found the setting by going to Advanced (F7), went to Overclock Settings, then clicked Advanced PCU Configuration, and PL1 is "Long Duration Power Limit(W)," and PL2 is "Short Duration Power Limit(W)"
my god do you know how irritating it is, ive looked at so many videos to try and fix this to the base spec to secure my chip. You are the only channel that went step by step no bullsht and just showed how to do the damn thing. every other big channel just went on rambles and talked about updating your bios which is risky to me and skipped through stuff or didnt show anything at all. For gods sake I thank you.
You sir, are a lifesaver! Games have been crashing on my new rig for 2 months and the CPU usage went nuts (110%). I can totally see an improvement in stability now thanks to you
I just bought and installed a 13900k and playing a game it's already crashed 3 times. Watched your video and it was a massive help cause I'm not tech savvy when it comes to messing around in the bios. Thank you so much
I just did this on my computer i-914900KF, the upper limit was set to 4k. It's insane these were shipped with these settings. I'll return to edit this message if the problem persists. Thank you for making this video! Huge! EDIT: Just came back to say i liked and subbed, everything still fine.
I just wanted to come by and say thank you very much for this video. I built my own PC, one of several I have built and had not had an issue with it until recently when I started doing some graphics work with upscaling large images and doing a lot of editing etc. My GPU would start running fans like crazy, screen went blank and I had to restart. I thought maybe was the vid card - a MSI 2060 I have had for 3+ yrs so I grabbed a ASUS 4060 TI and figured I could move the other to another machine with an older card if it were not its fault. I figured I would start with the easiest before starting to check paste, looking at coolers and PSUs. My CPU is a 13900K I have a ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420, a 1000Watt PSU. Z690 GAMING X DDR4. New GPU seemed better but then it started again tonight. This time I got critical CORE warnings and a shutdown warning commenced. I then vaguely recalled techies like you running cinebench etc and talking power limits when this CPU was new. I had not ever had issues, I am not a gamer and so I did not have a need to change settings. Well I made the changes you suggested, ran a ridiculously gigantic image as a 4x upscale and no issues. Core temp flashed yellow for hot once ever so briefly but no red, no warnings and I am hoping this is it. Thank you!
I was one of the first to build a 13900K system in 2022. Since then, I've had nothing but problems - tried multiple motherboards, power supplies, RAM, BIOS upgrades, ME updates - still had crashes, BSOD's and random USB disconnect issues. I finally RMA'd the CPU under warranty and now the replacement CPU is starting to have random USB issues. I can undervolt the CPU and basically turn it into a Core i7 (25%+ performance loss) with the recommended BIOS settings, which fixed the stability and temperature issues, but I STILL have random USB disconnects. Meanwhile, my second system, a Core i7 12700k has been rock solid, not a single issue. I'm 100% done with Intel - switching to AMD Zen 5 when they're released.
I set all my limits to slightly over the Intel limits and have never had another issue. No crashes, no overheating. It really does make it hard to build a PC though when you can't trust the default settings on your motherboard. My Cinebench score is still 36616 with the 253W limit on 14900k. Peak core temp is 77C. Cooling is an NZXT Kraken 360 Elite.
There's been much talk about undervolting, you can actually keep all the settings stock and undervolt, depending on your setup, anywhere from point .010 volts up to 1.0v and it will prevent the processor from overheating and also limit the wattage when you adjust the undervolt offsets. Worked on mine
Undervolting helps with thermals but will reduce stability if you didn’t strike it lucky with the silicon lottery. For some, higher voltages are still necessary. But RMA if it is still not stable with the new Intel recommended settings.
Right when i built my computer i was lucky to meet a MSI fourm IT specialist who made me aware of this issue he talked me through going into the bios and setting the long and short power limits to 220 watts
Hey just thought I’d report back for anyone else on MSI mobos PL1 = Long Duration Power Limit (125) PL2 = Short Duration Power Limit (253) I found out using Hwinfo64, if you hover over the respective lines it mentions it
Man I knew something had to be off, any game I played I had temp crashes or instability issues. I swear I was going insane. I play a lot of Cod and its been crashing non stop. I enabled hyperthreading and tweaked this to spek and no crashes whatsoever! Thanks man!
I'm from Korea. Thank you so much for this video. It took me such a long time and work until I found your video. I built my PC with i9 13900k back in December 2022. I started having this problem in May this year. I've been using my PC without tweaking PL1 & PL2 for over a year. With you help, I don't have the same problem any more. Thank you again so much for your help.
Holy Shit! It worked! I thought I was making a great jump from my 12900K to the new 14900KF. Speeds were definitely noticeable, games were better and smoother, but I had to keep running all fans at higher speeds to compensate for the freaking heat the CPU was emitting. I was ready to retun the chip and go back to my 12900K. I was stumped. Now I leave all fans on automatic and no more crashes! no more excessive heat! Dude you rock! i9 14900KF, Zotac 4080RTX, 64GB DDR5 6000 XMP1, dual 1TB m.2 NVME 980PRO Raid 0 Passmark score18176 99% percentile!!! Loving it!
Wow. I dont know your channel but for helping all of us with this you definitely get my insta-sub. Im now deciding to buy a new pc setup. So when not overheating and not throttling can you state that 14900K is noticably more performant than 12900K ? I will need best performance for some heavy compiliation tasks, but I dont want to waste a lot of money on an overpriced cpu if its not really better than the cpu two generations before which costs a third of the price. Would you mind letting me know about it ? Thank you
was having this same problem on my 13,700k returned it to Intel for a $419.00 cash refund via Western Union re-purchased a new 13,700k hoping that running this on Intel's limited power (default power profile) BIOS settings means I won't run into the same crashes with this new cpu, because my old cpu had been run from february 2023 to june 2024 (1.5 years almost) on the unlimited 4,000+ watts profile, and I think my old CPU cooked itself /pray this works. thanks for the video, big help man!!
Still not enough. This video doesnt tackle the real problem. Put your cpu to max stock all core and you'll have 0 degrigation. The REAL problem is your cpu is trying to boost 2x cores to 6ghz with insane voltages. In real time and life / gaming / heavy work load use, your cpu will utilize ALL CORE. If you are chasing that high advertised "6ghz single core boost" for a cinebench run in single core, where it will ONLY make a small difference in a single score on your pc, with no realtime impact, you are buying high end cpu's for the wrong reason. Thank me when you upgrade your cpu without issues in a few years.
Holy, you're a champ dude! I used to do "sync all cores" and manually set lower frequencies. Still can't run at turbo speeds but at least it's stable at 5.2 on P-core and 4.0 on E-core.
Thank you so much brother, i was trying to run d5 after the update and it wouldn’t start. I thought the problem was in my gpu. Turns out my cpu was the problem. Thank you for solving it. It’s running perfectly now.
holy crap, this worked. I can't belive it. Had issues with this for 6 months, consistently blue screening, unable to build nanite in unreal engine, constant crashes with C4D simulations. The pc is supposed to be a beast build, but cant even handle building 1GB nanite meshes. Now finally no crashes anymore, but like u said, runs a little slower than before. Altho that doesnt really matter, because rather a little slower than not working at all all the whilst distroying my cpu slowly.
Thanks for the video man. You probably saved me a bunch of time trying to figure out what was going on. I just installed a I9-14700k liquid cooled in my PC and I play Star citizen at the same time as streaming and using a vtuber. so very very CPU demanding setup and I crashed multiple times. I'm going to try this tomorrow and see if this fixes my issue.
One thing we need to add to this is the iccmax. By default motherboards will try to crank out 500 to 400 amps this is not Intel specification it should be no higher than 307 doing so will lower your temps even more
This video addresses that via the power limit. If PL1 = 125w and the vcore stays in the normal range the current is reduced significantly because of the math.
Thanks, this video is helpful and a universal for different systems. Another way is to updating BIOS. On most motherboards this will fix overheating issue.
I have the exact same problem with the Intel Core i9 14900KF. I bought a new rig, (RTX 4090, ASUS Prime B760M-A AX6 motherboard, etc.) And I have never wanted to throw my computer out the window so fast. Playing Blade & Sorcery, crashes. Boneworks, crashes. American Truck Simulator, crashes. Even RUclips would crash. Even on idle, it would crash. Thank god I will be getting an Intel Core i7 12th gen soon. Hopefully it works like a charm. Thank you for this btw, it will fix my splitting headaches during the process of me buying a newer and "downgraded" processor. 😮💨 Intel, ffs, FIX IT!
Didn’t Intel come out and say that PL1/2 should now both be set to 253W and 400A? That’s their “extreme” setting. 125/253w with 307A is their power saving mode
If you put limit on watts cpu want take more amps then watt limit let it. If you set 307 amps cpu want get 253 watts even on turbo. Number of amps cpu is taking depends from watts. With watts as limiter yo don't have to worry about amps.
Voltage is what causes more heat, but also gives you stability. The new Intel default boosts voltage substantially. Best to stick with AUTO settings and reduce max current and power to Intel spec. Then reduce voltage until cinebench fails. Then raise voltage slightly until stable. This will then reduce thermal throttling. Every chip is different so everyone needs to find the sweet spot
How joyful... We pay so much money for a processor that we then have to undervolt Some people blame only Intel, I think both sides are to blame. Intel that they allowed voltages way above theirs Motherboard manufacturers have approved of this and pushed these limits even further in the name of performance and benchmarks.
Nope, undervolting is not the answer. It only helps reduce thermalling. Stability is why the new Intel default has raised voltages. Power limits prevent excessive temps. But make sure you have a 340mm water cooler minimum.
@@andrev5207 I have no problem with temperatures, even without undervolt But shortening the life of my CPU is somehow not joyful My liquid cooling was Artic 420, now I use EK 360 LUX on 13900K
@@andrev5207 I don't know what happened to my previous comment, it was from a phone and it doesn't matter. I actually have no problems with temps even without undervolt. I used to use Artic 420 liquid cooling, now I use EK 360 lux The worrying thing is that I don't want to shorten the life of my CPU, but I also lose performance if I follow the Intel limits On the other hand, there is a 7800X processor that costs $370 and is almost equivalent to a 14900K that costs $730
Asus MBs just released BIOS updates because all of their boards are running out of spec. The other board co's are bound to do the same. Here is one, my mouse just got an update because the last version caused random lock ups and crashes. The next day my Asus Formula bios had an update. Now I don't know what was causing odd crashes but my money is on the BIOS.
The AMD CPUs are definitely much lower maintenance. No need for water cooling, no need for exotic VRMs, easy memory ratios either 6000MT/s gear 1 or 8000MT/s gear 2.
@@GameTechReviewshi i wanted to ask you about your 192 gb ram video on ryzen 9 7950x3d. is the ASUS ROG Strix X670E F Gaming WiFi a good motherboard for this? Please let me know i need guidance.
@@GameTechReviews Got AMD builds myself. Yet recommended intel + Nvidia for others that use popular software for production, that often work better with intel.
I still don't understand why board manufacturers put unlimited power in, no wonder it freezes. Before I had a gigabyte z790, with an i9 13900k, I left the CPU completely fried, there were no 3 slots of ram, the CPU got very hot, I asked for a return of the CPU and motherboard, in the end they gave me a new CPU, and I bought one MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI, the first thing I ask myself in the BIOS is what power I want to use, a ten for MSI, I gave it 253w, and it has never given me any problems.
Thanks for this! Could these steps be also applied to the laptop version processor, i9-14900HX? Got it in a Lenovo Legion 7i, +-2 weeks ago. I am having many problems, for example when loading any installation file (sometimes can take up to 10 minutes to open one). And many unpredictable behaviours, where processes are run very slowly or downright freezing. Thanks :)
So great! No more problem with crash CPU I Wondering if I can tweak PL1 and PL2 watts till the point of crashing? To get more performance and still stable CPU.
My Asrock z790 lightning ddr4 puts the 13700k at 265w with arctic liquid freezer 360mm AIO, has been running stable since release, 2 years ago or so. I think the whole thing is way overblown.
I have an i9 13900KF, z790 MB. I get the out of video memory. In the BIOS, I have to select "Sync all cores" for both E and P cores. Any other setting and I get a hard freeze when idle at the desktop. This makes the CPU run about 10 deg hotter, at 46deg cel. For some games like Hogwarts, I have to quickly set the affinity to run on 4 cores only. If I dont then Hogwarts crashes when it begins to download the shaders. Everything is stable now, just have the slightly hotter idle temps and having to set affinity when launching some games.
I've had my i9-13900k in a Asus Rog Strix Z790-A ddr5 for a little over a year and I use a NZXT 240 aio and it runs around the same temps yours are showing but if I use those Intel specs my Cinebench R23 score drops to around 29000 because the p cores are now only averaging 4100 mhz. Should I be worried that my cpu has degraded and ask for a replacement even though it's not crashing or anything so far?
Rip my i9-14900ks still crashes i get clock watchdog timeout, it definetly made my pc more stable but still unstable. Man it performs so fast but man random bluescreens SUCKS
so this hopefully eliminates the heat spikes, but reduces overall performance - is that the main take away (tech idiot here, hi!) I've got an alienware r16 with 14900 and been getting random crashes in DCS and Assetto Corsa Comp (ACC). I just went into Alienware command center and I can see a graph with recent game performance (after a crash). As I scroll along I see where the crash happened and looks like I hit a max of 96c. Do you think I'm interpreting this correctly and is this the like cause of game crashes? thx
This worked really well for me! BSOD in after effects always, now there is no blue screen, but before it was running at 4.20-5ghz, now it is stuck at 3-3.20.. is this normal? lose all this performance after this configuration?
I still have gamecrashes with every Unreal Engine 5 game. When i play EA FC 25 it crash always, sometime after 2min, sometimes after 30.. idk what do to
Yo I just tried this and now my pc just won’t turn on anymore, it powers up and everything and I see my mouse and keyboard lights turn on but it is just stuck on a black screen and no matter how long I leave it or how many times I try to turn it back on or enter bios it does not work. Anyone have an idea of how to fix this issue
Reset the CMOS (basically resetting the BIOS to factory settings). Google how to do that. You can do that by either jumping the Reset CMOS pins or removing the CMOS battery and putting it back after 5 mins. Good luck.
I am disappointed. I have seen the news headlines last week, even game devs of the game "Outpost Infinity Siege" openly recommended under clocking for the 13900K & 14900K. Funny enough many others report that intel has not found the core of the issue yet, you can find hundreds of reports on reddit in the last couple months. Intel is just hiding with the tail between their legs... Yes, we know it's not intel causing this issue, but the motherboard makers that have overclock settings on without the users permission to do so. It is clear that Intel should send out a strong message to all the motherboards makers to undo these overclock settings and more importantly let the consumers know about it. But hey, they maybe scared giving us the we sue you free card. Also how come we didn't see a multi million subscribers RUclips tech channel make a hit piece video yet? Are they all too busy with other things?
I have a gigabyte b760m, i selected Intel PoR and it followed the intel default specs. I matched the values in intel website using hwinfo. I am using an i5 13500. Pl1 is 65w and pl2 is 154. Previously on auto it was pl1 125w and pl2 241w. Now In a stress test it goes to 137w max. In intel pow i have lower temps but my cpu doesn't reach 4.8ghz ( max turbo boost) in benchmark test. It only goes upto 4.09ghz. Base clock speed in idle also increased to 1.45ghz which used to remain 0.75ghz. With the intel cpu failing scare i decided to stick to default values unless this thing blows over. Do i revert back to auto or stick to the Intel POW? will it hinder gaming performance drastically?? Day to day work seems unchanged. Edit: after running numerous benchmark and stress tests even in Auto settings the total power draw never exceeded 137w ( with PL 2 at 243w) with temps staying at 77-78°c. It never went near 150wats. Normal situation cpu package power draw remains at 5-6 watts. So i dont see the point in selecting intel por. I am using a cooler master hyper 212.
@@matthew0124 then look at hwinfo p cores are at 1100 mhz. and pc freezes at moments ,İt doesn't go up from 48-60 Celsius but it's like CPU of 10 years back.
Without going through all of the power limits manually, I'm justing going for Asus Multicore Enhancement to Limit CPU Temp at 90°, it automatically limits watts to something like 240, 230, depending by the temp, so... profit?
For the I9 14900ks it's 150/253 with icc=307. For the 14900K it's 125/253. I have my I9 14900KS set to 253/253/307 and it runs very cool. 71c during benchmark testing. I'm running MW3 at full extreme settings and getting 270-315 FPS. Watch the few videos I uploaded on my channel.
I have this very same problem with my setup. I've installed a I9-14900K and suddenly ( could be playing or not ) the same goes "off" and fans go at 100% ... I can see that Asus is publishing a new version of BIOS "Version 1666", but said that is "Beta version"... I'm not sure if should go with the instalation of the same as the issue they said it fix seems to be my problem xD!! ... I think I'm going to try first what you recomend on video and wait for oficial release of BIOS.
Do you have any suggestions with the 14900HX? I have this on my laptop and my laptop is constantly crashing and BSODing when I play games. Intel denies laptop processors being affected. I need some help.
thanks for the guide but does it worth to buy 14th i9 now ? and after this power limit will i able get solid performence in 4k video editing with i9 ? pls rply sir
Whats odd is that the CPU still gets hot when PL1 and PL2 are set to 253 Watt because in other Videos you can see that if both are set @253 Watt the temps are not going over 71° according to HWInfo. So whats the issiue here bad cooling ? Because i have the same Mainboard and Problem that the CPU only runs cool when PL1 is set to 125 Watt. Im 100% sure that this is not normal behavior especially when you have a 360mm AIO like me.
@@davidsmith4186I have set the Amps @360 and PL1 and PL2 @253 Watt but when i set Amps @307 then the CPU will not use its full potential because it will throttle like @210 - 220 Watt. So my thinking is if you want to run a 13900k or 14900k at maximum speed you need a fucking good AIO otherwise you must throttle it a bit down or use a Contact Frame to bring the temps down.
I have an Asus Z790 Hero motherboard with an Intel 13900K processor. After applying Intel's recommended BIOS updates, virtual machines on VMware became almost unusable. Everything moves extremely jerkily. Also in multithreading, performance dropped by 11%. Intel no longer exists for me.
Yes, but not advised as anything over 253W is "out of spec" for Intel. Well, technically even having 150W for PL1 is out of spec for intel, since PL1 is 125W.
I just bought a brand new i9 14900ks with an aero g motherboard and Im having random restarts. Before calling the shop I bought from I came across your video. Both L1 and L2 are on 320w even though in the spec's it shows that its supposed to be 150w for L1 and 253w for L2. I have made chnages in the bios, hopefully it will do the trick. Will i suffer a big loss in performance?
Intel screwed up with 13900k and 14900k. Amd zen4 7950x3x and 7950x are faster. When they release PROPER CPUS that beat amd withing running proper intel spec watts we will reconsider buying again a intel cpu. For now is only AMD.!!!! AMD IS THE NEW KING!!!!
@@JynxedKoma Time will tell... but from some gossips here and there, Intel seems to have issues with getting things right now in mobile space (they've lost ground in mobile for AMD and AMD cannot keep up with demand from OEMs)... if Ryzen 9 9800 on Zen 5 will stay at 140W and be +20% IPC ... Intel will have a really big problem!
I've undervolt my 13900kf and get reasonable temps and a score of 42.5k cinebench R23 with maxed out power limit using a 360 AIO there's no way I'd lose 10k points and set the intel specs. Just undervolt and keep the best performance. If the temps are too high your cooling solution isn't good enough.
I just have the rule as have boost go up to 90°C and have sustain temps of full load be 85°C for winter. Finding the right settings can be a little game in it self, after about 30 reboots I am perfect there where I want it to be.
What cooler do you have? I have the Deepcool LT720P AIO and if my P1 snd P2 sre set to 253W my temps dosent exceed 80 Celsius degrees in Cinebench, i can even let it for half an hour. In torture tests like Prime95 do i dont exceed 90 and that at start but afterward CPU stays the same at 80. I also have a Thermalright frame and use the MX6 thermal paste.
i'm a normal consumer and purchased my high end computer like 3 months ago and just keeps crashing for every game I play it makes no sense why did I pay a premium for this? I shouldn't have to tweak my bios in order to get my computer to function probably I blame intel and msi for not checking these problems out. Went back to my 3 year old rig with my 3080 and i9 12900k just to play my games stable,this is dumb sending my computer back to ibuypower today.
Hello my good sir you earned a sub. Can i ask your honest opinion? I wanna move to amd but im afraid to regret it. Since i won't be able to return it due to living in south America. I want a 7800X3D my main concern is stuttering. I currently own a 12700F cpu. And ocassionaloy here and there i get micro stutters. Nothung too awful or unbearable but i see it. I was wondering if 7800x3D with 6000 Cl30 ram will give me a better computing experience and gaming. Im a streamer and my OCD is driving crazy with micro stutters and stuff. I do not uso turbo, i have all my cores at same frequency fixed mode. No CE1, Intel specs. I would run the ryzen without PBO at fixed 4.950 all cores and -30 offset. Can you give me advice since you have exoerience with ryzen? Thank you kindly
It depends on the type of games you play but in general, the 7800X3D is better than the 12700F across the board. Especially if you stream games that are CPU heavy such as multiplayer FPS games or MMOs. If you look at my livestreams, all of those are done using the Ryzen CPU and have always had high image quality and no stutters or dropped frames.
@@GameTechReviews Thank you for your fast reply. Where do you do Livestreams, here on RUclips or twitch? I'll be taking a look! And thank you. I'm excited to see amd launching Ryzen 9000, that will translate in current gen price drop. Then I wanna Jump in there
Right on point thanks,but i have a problem when i use motherboard default my cpu is crashing,when i use intel baseline profile my 13900k is way worse then my 5800x3d which i threw away for this scrap. From now on im team AMD
also disable MCE-CEP and use 253-253-307 then use a loadline calibration of 5 on power saving mode the other 2 modes set to auto in the same section i have on normal right below power saving mode. it does more than using an offset uv. I'm doing this on an air cooled-Noctua NH-U12A-14700K and i get over 35K on CBr23 with 73C the highest temp on the 30-minute test. my mb is a gigabyte aorus elite x wi-fi7.
You guys are waaay to technical for no reason at all. If your cpu is new, all core it with 0 degrigation going forward. If you are already 6 months in eg with degrigation, you can eaven leave the LLC, just All Core, and offset the VID in positive increments of 0.0500 from around 1.0000 until your crashes/stress tests/stock idle blue screens etc are fixed, with 0 degrigation from there. The problem is people are chasing that 6ghz boost for a cinebench run, the ONLY place it will stroke people's ego to get that one high run. Stock max All core is where your pc works under any proper workload, there is where it matters, there is where people's aim is supposed to be. If anything else than that, they are uneducatedly buying high spec cpu's for all the wrong reasons.
@@MrKirlen Well - no - this is just in the deeps of Intel specs sheets, that I've seen during multiple YT views and also checking PDFs. It just is... 56s.
I really wish this had worked for me. I've been regretting upgrading things for 2 weeks now, and it's not like a i7-10700kf will pair well with a 4090 😕
Yay maybe now my room will be less hot because I had it running at 4096w his whole time... 😓 Couldn't you be able to do something a little more and be stable? like 150w or 200w?
I'm so sick about my 14900k. I had a 11900k with zero issues, upgrade and now I completely regret it.
Same here , literally built the best pc I could to get crash in games that i was playing greatly on my 2070 super
Agreed. Bought a prebuilt from Corsair with the I9 14900KF and an Asus Prime Z790-P mobo and I'm RMAing it now. Worked great for a month and now can't even get it to post.
Same my 10-900k was amazing
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I just flashed my Gigabyte MB and it loads straight through Unreal game video codex for the first time. The MB now defaults to the correct Intel CPU settings instead of automatically overclocking even though you didn't ask it to. Check to see if you Motheboard has a new Bios.
It will always be skimp how i gratefully thank you. I had no idea about these problems. I just set a new 14900ks system for interior design rendering but after hundreds of try any of them ended with crashing and freezing just because the cpu tempreture was about 101 degrees. Then i disabled Intel Turbo Boost but cpu usage went down to %87 and cinebench(2024) score became 1291. I watched this video and followed the steps carefully. I enabled turbo boost again now CPU goes to %100, tempreture is about 60 degrees, stability is awesome, system works incredible fast. Cinebench 2024 score exploded like 1827. Thank you. You made it simple and clear. Really thank you.
For people with MSI motherboard, I found the setting by going to Advanced (F7), went to Overclock Settings, then clicked Advanced PCU Configuration, and PL1 is "Long Duration Power Limit(W)," and PL2 is "Short Duration Power Limit(W)"
Did you also click “Enhanced turbo” from auto to enabled?
@@blakebowen5170did you try this out?
Thank you this helped me find it but it was under advance cpu configuration for me in settings
my god do you know how irritating it is, ive looked at so many videos to try and fix this to the base spec to secure my chip. You are the only channel that went step by step no bullsht and just showed how to do the damn thing. every other big channel just went on rambles and talked about updating your bios which is risky to me and skipped through stuff or didnt show anything at all. For gods sake I thank you.
You sir, are a lifesaver!
Games have been crashing on my new rig for 2 months and the CPU usage went nuts (110%).
I can totally see an improvement in stability now thanks to you
Ive been trying to figure out why my new expensive pc was crashing all the time. Thank you so much for this
You literally just saved my day. I couldn’t run a single game but after I did this everything worked. Thank you
I just bought and installed a 13900k and playing a game it's already crashed 3 times. Watched your video and it was a massive help cause I'm not tech savvy when it comes to messing around in the bios. Thank you so much
I just did this on my computer i-914900KF, the upper limit was set to 4k. It's insane these were shipped with these settings. I'll return to edit this message if the problem persists. Thank you for making this video! Huge!
EDIT: Just came back to say i liked and subbed, everything still fine.
I just wanted to come by and say thank you very much for this video. I built my own PC, one of several I have built and had not had an issue with it until recently when I started doing some graphics work with upscaling large images and doing a lot of editing etc. My GPU would start running fans like crazy, screen went blank and I had to restart. I thought maybe was the vid card - a MSI 2060 I have had for 3+ yrs so I grabbed a ASUS 4060 TI and figured I could move the other to another machine with an older card if it were not its fault.
I figured I would start with the easiest before starting to check paste, looking at coolers and PSUs. My CPU is a 13900K I have a ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 420, a 1000Watt PSU. Z690 GAMING X DDR4. New GPU seemed better but then it started again tonight. This time I got critical CORE warnings and a shutdown warning commenced.
I then vaguely recalled techies like you running cinebench etc and talking power limits when this CPU was new. I had not ever had issues, I am not a gamer and so I did not have a need to change settings.
Well I made the changes you suggested, ran a ridiculously gigantic image as a 4x upscale and no issues. Core temp flashed yellow for hot once ever so briefly but no red, no warnings and I am hoping this is it. Thank you!
I was one of the first to build a 13900K system in 2022. Since then, I've had nothing but problems - tried multiple motherboards, power supplies, RAM, BIOS upgrades, ME updates - still had crashes, BSOD's and random USB disconnect issues. I finally RMA'd the CPU under warranty and now the replacement CPU is starting to have random USB issues. I can undervolt the CPU and basically turn it into a Core i7 (25%+ performance loss) with the recommended BIOS settings, which fixed the stability and temperature issues, but I STILL have random USB disconnects. Meanwhile, my second system, a Core i7 12700k has been rock solid, not a single issue. I'm 100% done with Intel - switching to AMD Zen 5 when they're released.
Im having the same problem abiyt usb disconnect did you solve it?
I set all my limits to slightly over the Intel limits and have never had another issue. No crashes, no overheating. It really does make it hard to build a PC though when you can't trust the default settings on your motherboard. My Cinebench score is still 36616 with the 253W limit on 14900k. Peak core temp is 77C. Cooling is an NZXT Kraken 360 Elite.
There's been much talk about undervolting, you can actually keep all the settings stock and undervolt, depending on your setup, anywhere from point .010 volts up to 1.0v and it will prevent the processor from overheating and also limit the wattage when you adjust the undervolt offsets. Worked on mine
Undervolting helps with thermals but will reduce stability if you didn’t strike it lucky with the silicon lottery. For some, higher voltages are still necessary. But RMA if it is still not stable with the new Intel recommended settings.
Right when i built my computer i was lucky to meet a MSI fourm IT specialist who made me aware of this issue he talked me through going into the bios and setting the long and short power limits to 220 watts
what settings did you turn off. In this boat right now and can't find a guide for msi click 5
Has this fixed your issues and no more crashes?
Hey just thought I’d report back for anyone else on MSI mobos
PL1 = Long Duration Power Limit (125)
PL2 = Short Duration Power Limit (253)
I found out using Hwinfo64, if you hover over the respective lines it mentions it
Man I knew something had to be off, any game I played I had temp crashes or instability issues. I swear I was going insane. I play a lot of Cod and its been crashing non stop. I enabled hyperthreading and tweaked this to spek and no crashes whatsoever! Thanks man!
I'm from Korea. Thank you so much for this video. It took me such a long time and work until I found your video.
I built my PC with i9 13900k back in December 2022. I started having this problem in May this year. I've been using my PC without tweaking PL1 & PL2 for over a year. With you help, I don't have the same problem any more.
Thank you again so much for your help.
exactly same happened in mine. Last Year there was no issues, What happened now now it spikes 110 Celsius?
@@sahinerdem5496 It comes with 3 year warranty. I was able to replace it with new one. They said "HOPEFULLY" it won't happen again.
Holy Shit! It worked! I thought I was making a great jump from my 12900K to the new 14900KF. Speeds were definitely noticeable, games were better and smoother, but I had to keep running all fans at higher speeds to compensate for the freaking heat the CPU was emitting. I was ready to retun the chip and go back to my 12900K. I was stumped. Now I leave all fans on automatic and no more crashes! no more excessive heat! Dude you rock! i9 14900KF, Zotac 4080RTX, 64GB DDR5 6000 XMP1, dual 1TB m.2 NVME 980PRO Raid 0 Passmark score18176 99% percentile!!! Loving it!
Wow. I dont know your channel but for helping all of us with this you definitely get my insta-sub. Im now deciding to buy a new pc setup. So when not overheating and not throttling can you state that 14900K is noticably more performant than 12900K ? I will need best performance for some heavy compiliation tasks, but I dont want to waste a lot of money on an overpriced cpu if its not really better than the cpu two generations before which costs a third of the price. Would you mind letting me know about it ? Thank you
was having this same problem on my 13,700k
returned it to Intel for a $419.00 cash refund via Western Union
re-purchased a new 13,700k
hoping that running this on Intel's limited power (default power profile) BIOS settings means I won't run into the same crashes with this new cpu, because my old cpu had been run from february 2023 to june 2024 (1.5 years almost) on the unlimited 4,000+ watts profile, and I think my old CPU cooked itself
/pray this works. thanks for the video, big help man!!
Still not enough. This video doesnt tackle the real problem. Put your cpu to max stock all core and you'll have 0 degrigation.
The REAL problem is your cpu is trying to boost 2x cores to 6ghz with insane voltages.
In real time and life / gaming / heavy work load use, your cpu will utilize ALL CORE.
If you are chasing that high advertised "6ghz single core boost" for a cinebench run in single core, where it will ONLY make a small difference in a single score on your pc, with no realtime impact, you are buying high end cpu's for the wrong reason.
Thank me when you upgrade your cpu without issues in a few years.
Well even after changing pl1 and pl2 games are still crashing on i9 14900kf 😢
Pertinent Power Limit points! Well covered and explained!
Holy, you're a champ dude! I used to do "sync all cores" and manually set lower frequencies. Still can't run at turbo speeds but at least it's stable at 5.2 on P-core and 4.0 on E-core.
Thanks for the solution.
My pc was crashing and cycling for days now. This was the fix.
Thank you so much brother, i was trying to run d5 after the update and it wouldn’t start. I thought the problem was in my gpu. Turns out my cpu was the problem. Thank you for solving it. It’s running perfectly now.
holy crap, this worked. I can't belive it. Had issues with this for 6 months, consistently blue screening, unable to build nanite in unreal engine, constant crashes with C4D simulations. The pc is supposed to be a beast build, but cant even handle building 1GB nanite meshes. Now finally no crashes anymore, but like u said, runs a little slower than before. Altho that doesnt really matter, because rather a little slower than not working at all all the whilst distroying my cpu slowly.
Thanks for the video man. You probably saved me a bunch of time trying to figure out what was going on. I just installed a I9-14700k liquid cooled in my PC and I play Star citizen at the same time as streaming and using a vtuber. so very very CPU demanding setup and I crashed multiple times. I'm going to try this tomorrow and see if this fixes my issue.
One thing we need to add to this is the iccmax. By default motherboards will try to crank out 500 to 400 amps this is not Intel specification it should be no higher than 307 doing so will lower your temps even more
This video addresses that via the power limit. If PL1 = 125w and the vcore stays in the normal range the current is reduced significantly because of the math.
Mine won’t let me get it lower than 500A and I made the changes….
Thirteenth gen has been out since October 2022 and 14th gen since October 2023. Why do you think these issues are just coming out?
Goat video thanks you so much, i have the probleme since 1 year and ur video help me to resolve my many crash, you are the goat
Yeah this fixed it for me. Insane. Thank you.
Thank you so much!! It works for me. Finally can run Cyberpunk on my pc😭
Thanks, this video is helpful and a universal for different systems. Another way is to updating BIOS. On most motherboards this will fix overheating issue.
I have the exact same problem with the Intel Core i9 14900KF. I bought a new rig, (RTX 4090, ASUS Prime B760M-A AX6 motherboard, etc.) And I have never wanted to throw my computer out the window so fast. Playing Blade & Sorcery, crashes. Boneworks, crashes. American Truck Simulator, crashes. Even RUclips would crash. Even on idle, it would crash. Thank god I will be getting an Intel Core i7 12th gen soon. Hopefully it works like a charm. Thank you for this btw, it will fix my splitting headaches during the process of me buying a newer and "downgraded" processor. 😮💨 Intel, ffs, FIX IT!
OMG I can start games in dx12 now THANKS
Didn’t Intel come out and say that PL1/2 should now both be set to 253W and 400A? That’s their “extreme” setting. 125/253w with 307A is their power saving mode
The amps are meant to be 307A regardless.
This is coming from Intel. 307A is the baseline. Not the max recommended
If you put limit on watts cpu want take more amps then watt limit let it. If you set 307 amps cpu want get 253 watts even on turbo. Number of amps cpu is taking depends from watts. With watts as limiter yo don't have to worry about amps.
Hey brothers i will get gaming pc can you give me advice what to buy? I dont want those crashing
I was also stuck with the same issue
Thanks for the solution
Thanks for the fix buddy I can now finally run call of duty
Nice video. What else can be done to elevate the performance a little bit but not thermal throttle? Play with the pl2 power?
Possibly but what's shown in the video ensures it follows the official spec which means running it at PL1 125w and PL2 253w maintains the warranty.
Voltage is what causes more heat, but also gives you stability. The new Intel default boosts voltage substantially. Best to stick with AUTO settings and reduce max current and power to Intel spec. Then reduce voltage until cinebench fails. Then raise voltage slightly until stable. This will then reduce thermal throttling. Every chip is different so everyone needs to find the sweet spot
Thank you so much this fix my issues !
Thank you, thank you, thank you! You are awesome!
How joyful...
We pay so much money for a processor that we then have to undervolt
Some people blame only Intel, I think both sides are to blame.
Intel that they allowed voltages way above theirs
Motherboard manufacturers have approved of this and pushed these limits even further in the name of performance and benchmarks.
Nope, undervolting is not the answer. It only helps reduce thermalling. Stability is why the new Intel default has raised voltages. Power limits prevent excessive temps. But make sure you have a 340mm water cooler minimum.
@@andrev5207 I have no problem with temperatures, even without undervolt
But shortening the life of my CPU is somehow not joyful
My liquid cooling was Artic 420, now I use EK 360 LUX on 13900K
@@andrev5207 I don't know what happened to my previous comment, it was from a phone and it doesn't matter.
I actually have no problems with temps even without undervolt.
I used to use Artic 420 liquid cooling, now I use EK 360 lux
The worrying thing is that I don't want to shorten the life of my CPU, but I also lose performance if I follow the Intel limits
On the other hand, there is a 7800X processor that costs $370 and is almost equivalent to a 14900K that costs $730
Asus MBs just released BIOS updates because all of their boards are running out of spec. The other board co's are bound to do the same. Here is one, my mouse just got an update because the last version caused random lock ups and crashes. The next day my Asus Formula bios had an update. Now I don't know what was causing odd crashes but my money is on the BIOS.
We will discuss this topic in the next episode of the livestream. Tune in Thursday if you have any questions, I'll be answering them live.
thanks!! i had to re-install windows and did all sht to get my game stop crashing on 14900 and this helped .. shame on you intel
INTEL POR is the "Extreme spec"
Manually applied PL1 125/253 PL2 is Intel baseline spec
That is also debatable: PL1 for KS's is 180W , and here Gigabyte left both at 253W :).
This is why i went amd 7950x3D, great performance and needs no more than 140W, so it can be air cooled! Team RED is killin’ intel.
The AMD CPUs are definitely much lower maintenance. No need for water cooling, no need for exotic VRMs, easy memory ratios either 6000MT/s gear 1 or 8000MT/s gear 2.
Yep I also went with the 7800X3D, it beats the 14900k and only uses 50watts 😂😂
@@GameTechReviewshi i wanted to ask you about your 192 gb ram video on ryzen 9 7950x3d. is the ASUS ROG Strix X670E F Gaming WiFi a good motherboard for this? Please let me know i need guidance.
yeah... you're gonna find out eventually.
@@GameTechReviews Got AMD builds myself. Yet recommended intel + Nvidia for others that use popular software for production, that often work better with intel.
Thank you so much it fixed it new sub
I hope this fix won't decrease the processor's performance?
Can you explain cpu package power alone?
This CPU made me hate my life.
Did you know it costs over 3 minimun wages in Brazil?
I still don't understand why board manufacturers put unlimited power in, no wonder it freezes. Before I had a gigabyte z790, with an i9 13900k, I left the CPU completely fried, there were no 3 slots of ram, the CPU got very hot, I asked for a return of the CPU and motherboard, in the end they gave me a new CPU, and I bought one MSI MAG Z790 TOMAHAWK WIFI, the first thing I ask myself in the BIOS is what power I want to use, a ten for MSI, I gave it 253w, and it has never given me any problems.
Thank you so much
You explained it so good and help me with my issue 🙏
Thanks for this!
Could these steps be also applied to the laptop version processor, i9-14900HX? Got it in a Lenovo Legion 7i, +-2 weeks ago. I am having many problems, for example when loading any installation file (sometimes can take up to 10 minutes to open one). And many unpredictable behaviours, where processes are run very slowly or downright freezing.
Thanks :)
So great! No more problem with crash CPU
I Wondering if I can tweak PL1 and PL2 watts till the point of crashing? To get more performance and still stable CPU.
My Asrock z790 lightning ddr4 puts the 13700k at 265w with arctic liquid freezer 360mm AIO, has been running stable since release, 2 years ago or so. I think the whole thing is way overblown.
no it is not over blown it is just that cooler is a very good one and your 13700k isn't the one with the problem its 13900k and 14900k
In benchmarking, this should be the default performance profile (intel baseline profile). Mobos should default this profile in auto.
Would it be safe to double to total watts in P1 and P2 for a little more performance?
I have an i9 13900KF, z790 MB. I get the out of video memory. In the BIOS, I have to select "Sync all cores" for both E and P cores. Any other setting and I get a hard freeze when idle at the desktop. This makes the CPU run about 10 deg hotter, at 46deg cel. For some games like Hogwarts, I have to quickly set the affinity to run on 4 cores only. If I dont then Hogwarts crashes when it begins to download the shaders. Everything is stable now, just have the slightly hotter idle temps and having to set affinity when launching some games.
I've had my i9-13900k in a Asus Rog Strix Z790-A ddr5 for a little over a year and I use a NZXT 240 aio and it runs around the same temps yours are showing but if I use those Intel specs my Cinebench R23 score drops to around 29000 because the p cores are now only averaging 4100 mhz.
Should I be worried that my cpu has degraded and ask for a replacement even though it's not crashing or anything so far?
Where to find this bios settings in nzxt z790 mobo?
Rip my i9-14900ks still crashes i get clock watchdog timeout, it definetly made my pc more stable but still unstable. Man it performs so fast but man random bluescreens SUCKS
Me too.
@@PatrickWoodi got it stable at all core 5.9 ghz. I would love to get it stable at 6 but its impossible with my brain at least
@@L3THALXFOXwhat you change
so this hopefully eliminates the heat spikes, but reduces overall performance - is that the main take away (tech idiot here, hi!)
I've got an alienware r16 with 14900 and been getting random crashes in DCS and Assetto Corsa Comp (ACC). I just went into Alienware command center and I can see a graph with recent game performance (after a crash). As I scroll along I see where the crash happened and looks like I hit a max of 96c. Do you think I'm interpreting this correctly and is this the like cause of game crashes?
thx
This worked really well for me! BSOD in after effects always, now there is no blue screen, but before it was running at 4.20-5ghz, now it is stuck at 3-3.20.. is this normal? lose all this performance after this configuration?
Yes you will lose performance from doing this.
I still have gamecrashes with every Unreal Engine 5 game. When i play EA FC 25 it crash always, sometime after 2min, sometimes after 30.. idk what do to
If we set back PL1 and PL2 as stated spec, but we increase its multiflier, is that still safe? I have 14700K so far, with no issue. Just curious
Nice explanation... Very good video
Yo I just tried this and now my pc just won’t turn on anymore, it powers up and everything and I see my mouse and keyboard lights turn on but it is just stuck on a black screen and no matter how long I leave it or how many times I try to turn it back on or enter bios it does not work. Anyone have an idea of how to fix this issue
Reset the CMOS (basically resetting the BIOS to factory settings). Google how to do that. You can do that by either jumping the Reset CMOS pins or removing the CMOS battery and putting it back after 5 mins. Good luck.
Wipe the cmos and restore the bios
I am disappointed.
I have seen the news headlines last week, even game devs of the game "Outpost Infinity Siege" openly recommended under clocking for the 13900K & 14900K.
Funny enough many others report that intel has not found the core of the issue yet, you can find hundreds of reports on reddit in the last couple months.
Intel is just hiding with the tail between their legs...
Yes, we know it's not intel causing this issue, but the motherboard makers that have overclock settings on without the users permission to do so.
It is clear that Intel should send out a strong message to all the motherboards makers to undo these overclock settings and more importantly let the consumers know about it.
But hey, they maybe scared giving us the we sue you free card.
Also how come we didn't see a multi million subscribers RUclips tech channel make a hit piece video yet? Are they all too busy with other things?
Ok but why AMD has no issues tho? Because motherboard for Intel & Amd are made by the same manufacturers..
@@JS_Leger Why don't you remember when the 7000 series launched motherboard brands were cracking CPU dies because of super high SoC voltages!
Thank u, i have 13900K but i regret it, i think i ll buy 9950x
I have a gigabyte b760m, i selected Intel PoR and it followed the intel default specs. I matched the values in intel website using hwinfo. I am using an i5 13500. Pl1 is 65w and pl2 is 154.
Previously on auto it was pl1 125w and pl2 241w.
Now In a stress test it goes to 137w max.
In intel pow i have lower temps but my cpu doesn't reach 4.8ghz ( max turbo boost) in benchmark test. It only goes upto 4.09ghz.
Base clock speed in idle also increased to 1.45ghz which used to remain 0.75ghz.
With the intel cpu failing scare i decided to stick to default values unless this thing blows over.
Do i revert back to auto or stick to the Intel POW? will it hinder gaming performance drastically?? Day to day work seems unchanged.
Edit: after running numerous benchmark and stress tests even in Auto settings the total power draw never exceeded 137w ( with PL 2 at 243w) with temps staying at 77-78°c. It never went near 150wats. Normal situation cpu package power draw remains at 5-6 watts.
So i dont see the point in selecting intel por. I am using a cooler master hyper 212.
You can also take one more step is to under volt the cpu
Yep a -50 mv offset to S/A.
I’ve been struggling for like a year I just don’t understand it. Imma try this tho ty
howd it go? and was your game or pc crashing beforehand?
@@sashatulkoff9772 I fixed it, can’t remember if it was this vid but I had to put my computer into power saving mode
@@matthew0124 then look at hwinfo p cores are at 1100 mhz. and pc freezes at moments ,İt doesn't go up from 48-60 Celsius but it's like CPU of 10 years back.
ReaL video time starts @ 4:03 - bios tweaking
Thank you
Without going through all of the power limits manually, I'm justing going for Asus Multicore Enhancement to Limit CPU Temp at 90°, it automatically limits watts to something like 240, 230, depending by the temp, so... profit?
For the I9 14900ks it's 150/253 with icc=307. For the 14900K it's 125/253. I have my I9 14900KS set to 253/253/307 and it runs very cool. 71c during benchmark testing. I'm running MW3 at full extreme settings and getting 270-315 FPS. Watch the few videos I uploaded on my channel.
I have this very same problem with my setup. I've installed a I9-14900K and suddenly ( could be playing or not ) the same goes "off" and fans go at 100% ... I can see that Asus is publishing a new version of BIOS "Version 1666", but said that is "Beta version"... I'm not sure if should go with the instalation of the same as the issue they said it fix seems to be my problem xD!! ... I think I'm going to try first what you recomend on video and wait for oficial release of BIOS.
Do you have any suggestions with the 14900HX? I have this on my laptop and my laptop is constantly crashing and BSODing when I play games. Intel denies laptop processors being affected. I need some help.
thanks for the guide but does it worth to buy 14th i9 now ? and after this power limit will i able get solid performence in 4k video editing with i9 ? pls rply sir
Wait untill after August. They're supposedly rolling out a bios fix to correct their f-up.
Whats odd is that the CPU still gets hot when PL1 and PL2 are set to 253 Watt because in other Videos you can see that if both are set @253 Watt the temps are not going over 71° according to HWInfo. So whats the issiue here bad cooling ? Because i have the same Mainboard and Problem that the CPU only runs cool when PL1 is set to 125 Watt. Im 100% sure that this is not normal behavior especially when you have a 360mm AIO like me.
307A
PL1-253 WATT
PL2-253 WATT
Check to see it's not 511.75A
@@davidsmith4186I have set the Amps @360 and PL1 and PL2 @253 Watt but when i set Amps @307 then the CPU will not use its full potential because it will throttle like @210 - 220 Watt. So my thinking is if you want to run a 13900k or 14900k at maximum speed you need a fucking good AIO otherwise you must throttle it a bit down or use a Contact Frame to bring the temps down.
i wonder if 200W long-term (tdp1) is ok?
After pl1 and pl2 limits like showed. Do I need to set an amp limit (307A) or not ?It’s not clear Some say yes Some say no….
I have an Asus Z790 Hero motherboard with an Intel 13900K processor. After applying Intel's recommended BIOS updates, virtual machines on VMware became almost unusable. Everything moves extremely jerkily. Also in multithreading, performance dropped by 11%. Intel no longer exists for me.
I just went back to Windows 10 and now it's working fine. I have 13900KS
it safe to do 150w P1 and 285 P2 for little boost and it will not crash :) but rec AIO or water custom loop
Yes, but not advised as anything over 253W is "out of spec" for Intel. Well, technically even having 150W for PL1 is out of spec for intel, since PL1 is 125W.
Depends how lucky you were in the silicon lottery. Some people may get more.
I just bought a brand new i9 14900ks with an aero g motherboard and Im having random restarts. Before calling the shop I bought from I came across your video. Both L1 and L2 are on 320w even though in the spec's it shows that its supposed to be 150w for L1 and 253w for L2. I have made chnages in the bios, hopefully it will do the trick.
Will i suffer a big loss in performance?
Yes, it will reduce the performance.
@@GameTechReviews hey buddy, now the pc passes the AVX2 stress test, but i still got random resets. Im afraid my CPU or motherboard might be faulty
What is the icc max for you? (cpu core cache current limit max. I will send this to my friend that has arous board
PL1 = 125 watt PL2 = 253 iccmax= 307A, than gaves extreme stock settings PL1=PL2= 253 watt ICCmax = 400A --> This is for 14900k and maybe 13900k
@@DieChaosBoys1 okidoki.
@@CarlosDeBernardMrAgapi and the best is when you make on this 2 cpus, a undervolt with 50mv
Mine won’t let me go below 500A
@@dylancrutchfield2082 with mobo did you have?
How to open the stats on the side of cenebench
Intel screwed up with 13900k and 14900k. Amd zen4 7950x3x and 7950x are faster. When they release PROPER CPUS that beat amd withing running proper intel spec watts we will reconsider buying again a intel cpu.
For now is only AMD.!!!! AMD IS THE NEW KING!!!!
This whole fiasco won't be an issue at all with 15th gen, due to the chiplets design.
@@JynxedKoma Time will tell... but from some gossips here and there, Intel seems to have issues with getting things right now in mobile space (they've lost ground in mobile for AMD and AMD cannot keep up with demand from OEMs)... if Ryzen 9 9800 on Zen 5 will stay at 140W and be +20% IPC ... Intel will have a really big problem!
I've undervolt my 13900kf and get reasonable temps and a score of 42.5k cinebench R23 with maxed out power limit using a 360 AIO there's no way I'd lose 10k points and set the intel specs. Just undervolt and keep the best performance. If the temps are too high your cooling solution isn't good enough.
I just have the rule as have boost go up to 90°C and have sustain temps of full load be 85°C for winter.
Finding the right settings can be a little game in it self, after about 30 reboots I am perfect there where I want it to be.
Can share your uv settings 😊
@kanipaa just look on my channel I've uploaded loads of bios videos
Share ur settings, plz.😊
@@kanipaa I already have
What cooler do you have? I have the Deepcool LT720P AIO and if my P1 snd P2 sre set to 253W my temps dosent exceed 80 Celsius degrees in Cinebench, i can even let it for half an hour. In torture tests like Prime95 do i dont exceed 90 and that at start but afterward CPU stays the same at 80. I also have a Thermalright frame and use the MX6 thermal paste.
Is ot safe to leave max turbo boost (3.0) on ?
i'm a normal consumer and purchased my high end computer like 3 months ago and just keeps crashing for every game I play it makes no sense why did I pay a premium for this? I shouldn't have to tweak my bios in order to get my computer to function probably I blame intel and msi for not checking these problems out. Went back to my 3 year old rig with my 3080 and i9 12900k just to play my games stable,this is dumb sending my computer back to ibuypower today.
I get same score with 89 C degrees. With my 13900kf. With some modifications. :) 38000+
Hello my good sir you earned a sub. Can i ask your honest opinion? I wanna move to amd but im afraid to regret it. Since i won't be able to return it due to living in south America.
I want a 7800X3D my main concern is stuttering. I currently own a 12700F cpu. And ocassionaloy here and there i get micro stutters. Nothung too awful or unbearable but i see it.
I was wondering if 7800x3D with 6000 Cl30 ram will give me a better computing experience and gaming. Im a streamer and my OCD is driving crazy with micro stutters and stuff.
I do not uso turbo, i have all my cores at same frequency fixed mode. No CE1, Intel specs.
I would run the ryzen without PBO at fixed 4.950 all cores and -30 offset. Can you give me advice since you have exoerience with ryzen? Thank you kindly
It depends on the type of games you play but in general, the 7800X3D is better than the 12700F across the board. Especially if you stream games that are CPU heavy such as multiplayer FPS games or MMOs. If you look at my livestreams, all of those are done using the Ryzen CPU and have always had high image quality and no stutters or dropped frames.
@@GameTechReviews Thank you for your fast reply. Where do you do Livestreams, here on RUclips or twitch? I'll be taking a look! And thank you.
I'm excited to see amd launching Ryzen 9000, that will translate in current gen price drop. Then I wanna Jump in there
@@MaxySnake I stream on RUclips. You will find lots of recent livestreams talking about DDR5. Live show is every Thursday.
Right on point thanks,but i have a problem when i use motherboard default my cpu is crashing,when i use intel baseline profile my 13900k is way worse then my 5800x3d which i threw away for this scrap.
From now on im team AMD
also disable MCE-CEP and use 253-253-307 then use a loadline calibration of 5 on power saving mode the other 2 modes set to auto in the same section i have on normal right below power saving mode. it does more than using an offset uv. I'm doing this on an air cooled-Noctua NH-U12A-14700K and i get over 35K on CBr23 with 73C the highest temp on the 30-minute test. my mb is a gigabyte aorus elite x wi-fi7.
You guys are waaay to technical for no reason at all. If your cpu is new, all core it with 0 degrigation going forward.
If you are already 6 months in eg with degrigation, you can eaven leave the LLC, just All Core, and offset the VID in positive increments of 0.0500 from around 1.0000 until your crashes/stress tests/stock idle blue screens etc are fixed, with 0 degrigation from there.
The problem is people are chasing that 6ghz boost for a cinebench run, the ONLY place it will stroke people's ego to get that one high run. Stock max All core is where your pc works under any proper workload, there is where it matters, there is where people's aim is supposed to be. If anything else than that, they are uneducatedly buying high spec cpu's for all the wrong reasons.
can someone explain to me how I do this in the MSI bios interface?
@Game Tech Reviews - one more little thing - Intel states PL2 (253W limit) time to be 56 seconds. You did not set this afaik.
can u explain why 56?
@@MrKirlen Well - no - this is just in the deeps of Intel specs sheets, that I've seen during multiple YT views and also checking PDFs. It just is... 56s.
I really wish this had worked for me. I've been regretting upgrading things for 2 weeks now, and it's not like a i7-10700kf will pair well with a 4090 😕
Yay maybe now my room will be less hot because I had it running at 4096w his whole time... 😓 Couldn't you be able to do something a little more and be stable? like 150w or 200w?
Is it normal that I don't have this problem with my cpu??
lucky bro
you are fucking like that’s what it is
lucky*
This video kept me from smashing my skull against the wall and into oblivion so thank you sir for your service