Go to a larger front sprocket. Get a little bigger radiator and these things are perfect for trails. I run my crf450r for trails and track and it works perfectky.
Yes, they can work, but not for tight trails where you're averaging 5-10 mph or less. First gear will be too tall with a bigger front sprocket, so you'll be slipping the clutch a lot more, creating way more heat. The bigger radiators might keep it cool a little bit longer but if they're not getting airflow, it's not going to stay cool based on my experience.
It really depends on the kind of riding you're doing, your experience level, and what your expectations/goals are. Then there are different types of the same size bike (trail/enduro/cross-county/mx/dual sport).
Horrible for low speed technical trail riding. Cross country racing the only real application. Slow speed on a 4stroke is super annoying. Plus they get WAY hotter easier while going slow (no airflow)
@@TeknaTronik maybe in your specific situation. If I’m in the market for a (mostly) trail bike with mostly woods riding planned at different locations, a 2 stroke simply performs better in all areas required of a good trail/race bike. Not saying slow speed on a 4 stroke can’t be done. Just much easier on a 2. Hence the reason 90% of enduro riding is done on them. Also, It requires substantially more compression on a 4stroke (more heat) to equate the low end torque on a 2 stroke engine with lower compression (runs cooler)
What do you think of a 450 for trail riding?
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Go to a larger front sprocket.
Get a little bigger radiator and these things are perfect for trails. I run my crf450r for trails and track and it works perfectky.
Yes, they can work, but not for tight trails where you're averaging 5-10 mph or less. First gear will be too tall with a bigger front sprocket, so you'll be slipping the clutch a lot more, creating way more heat. The bigger radiators might keep it cool a little bit longer but if they're not getting airflow, it's not going to stay cool based on my experience.
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@MotocrossHideout not true. Running a 14 up front and 51 out back it works just fine. I just completed an Enduro race with it. No issues.
I heard some friends say 450 too big,250 too small and the alternative is a 350 ?
Where does the drz400 fit ?
It really depends on the kind of riding you're doing, your experience level, and what your expectations/goals are.
Then there are different types of the same size bike (trail/enduro/cross-county/mx/dual sport).
Ill go find an xr600 i need torque and plush suspension for woods
Just a thing to remember 125 250 and 450 have the same seat height and suspension travel 👍
Yep, thanks for your clarification, Jonathan. I should've added that I was comparing to trail bikes with 34-36" seat heights. Thanks for watching!
I always trail ride my rmz450 it's really not that hard and a good feeling valve bouncing past a 17k ktm lol
Horrible for low speed technical trail riding. Cross country racing the only real application. Slow speed on a 4stroke is super annoying. Plus they get WAY hotter easier while going slow (no airflow)
Yep, about the only 4-strokes that don't overheat easily at low speeds are air-cooled. Thanks for watching!
I have had no issue lugging my 450
@@TeknaTronik maybe in your specific situation. If I’m in the market for a (mostly) trail bike with mostly woods riding planned at different locations, a 2 stroke simply performs better in all areas required of a good trail/race bike. Not saying slow speed on a 4 stroke can’t be done. Just much easier on a 2. Hence the reason 90% of enduro riding is done on them. Also, It requires substantially more compression on a 4stroke (more heat) to equate the low end torque on a 2 stroke engine with lower compression (runs cooler)
@@gumpycognac4505 everyone who rides 450s lugs them in trails.
@@TeknaTronikI think your definition of trail riding might be a bit different to mine or others