+thersten its not like today when they pick a select few test pilots to be astronauts. the whole of civilisation travels space in the alien films universe. If you are going to be that picky then why not pick something more substantial like travelling x lightyears in a short time... you would have to disregard the whole film.. and Quentin with his magic tricks...... you would have to disregard all of his films too.
Most of them were also quite redundant, had no real significance and really only existed as plot mechanisms - which is what they felt like - and of course in turn a movie driven solely by plot mechanisms will have great difficulty creating any real sense of depth or theme and just generally making you care whether the protagonists live or die. It's gonna feel just like what it is - contrived, shallow and soulless. Just another piece of flaky movie-math trying to arrive at some preordained result with a bunch of set-pieces thrown in along the way for a bit of an aesthetic diversion.
+whynottalklikeapirat Yeah, sadly that seems to describe like, every Ridley Scott movie in the past, I dunno, fifteen years. Can you remember the last movie he made where he didn't do any of the above things you described? I can't. Maybe Gladiator. And that was what, 2000? Sad. He made a few good movies in the '80s but those days are long behind him.
Justin Head He is strangely inconsistent that way. I think that he is very much about the visual and the aestethic and then it sort of depends on the quality of the script and the actors how the rest turns out. Sometimes he just becomes too smooth and it's to much with the grain and too little depth.
The best part is that 5 minutes earlier the same scientist was scared shitless about the oddities they could find only to pet the first alien life form he sees.
@@SnuggsMcDuffseriously though 😂 idris was there to “fly” the ship (why you wouldnt want a literal AI to pilot it is beyond me)flirt with the blond woman, fuck her half way through the movie and then die in some one off hero way.
No I hadn't seen it fully but it seems self explanatory that David is planning to infect/drug him, and plants this in the drink right in front of Tom Hardy's clone, and doesn't notice. It's stupid.
"That's a SPACE COBRA!!!" - For all of the things Tarantino has gotten wrong over the years, the way he deals with character reactions always shines: his characters feel pain, they are frightened, they get hungry, they stumble, their guns jam. His dialogue is great, but I don't think he gets enough credit for just looking at a situation and saying "would an actual person actually goochy goo a space cobra??"
Was there a motivated reason to "fool a decapitated head into thinking it's alive"? Apart from blowing up for the camera, I mean. That's the bit that stumps me in Prometheus.
Steve Irwin would look at a cobra and say "goochy goo". And probably call it a "Sheila". That's how I rationalised it, I suppose. Those scientists are just braver than us.
Steve Irwin was a very controversial figure while alive and plenty of experts heavilycriticized his way of handling wildlife. I liked the guy, but just because he did it doesn't mean it's *the* safe and responsible way to do it. Also, there is a HUGE difference between handling a snake from earth, which is a well known creature, and going full Steve Irwin with an alien animal you have absolutely no idea how it is going to behave and react.
I also hated the moment that narrow spaceship was falling over. Instead of running sideways and easily escaping, THEY RUN IN THE DIRECTION THE SHIP IS FALLING. AND GUESS WHAT, ONE OF THEM DIES.
_The Thing_ and the original _Alien_ are his two most inspired sci fi films because they are very character oriented, claustrophobic, paranoid and terrifying.
Too many cooks in the writer's room can cause this problem. Too many conflicting ideas of what the movie should be leads to people not bothering to say anything at all. Whenever this happens, there are dozens of people in the production wondering "what the f are we doing". Basically the bureaucracy is too difficult to navigate on set for corrective ideas to get through
@@ChronoX720 I mean that’s obviously true. I just figure people wanna put in more work and effort. It’s like a journalist pushing out a story with only the first without getting the names spelled correctly
He's just saying that there were some dumb things in it. Not focusing on its flaws as he points out its epic. But in a movie that's half epic-good and half cliche-shit., its kind of due to see what drove them to making the mediocre decisions, artistically speaking. Espeically since Ridley Scott is an auteur (?) and are his days numbered? Has he entered George Lucasland of money incentives and special effects becoming primary, (to employ the field he developed) If it didnt have the budget it had it would of been better.
Well, since his characters are always amazing, is obvious that he put his eyes on that kind of beehavior. He can make an actor like the guy who play Hugo Stiglitz and make it HUGO STIGLITZ and you love it, even thou the guy is actually a bad actor in other movies.
BenRangel That's because Quentin is a fan of cinema in general. You don't get into movies if you hate them (Unless you're a producer) He is the only famous person I have seen that will talk about someone's work and say "You know, I thought that was fucking stupid." Great man.
@@kanegarvey3188 Many even Ridley are opinionated, don't know why you think it's so unique. And Tarantino loves a lot of B movies with a lot of dumb character decisions which should set an example for these haters.
@@ParkerFriedChicken well in real life people are immensely dumb in many situations, especially when `winging it` under stress. this is why space orgs like nasa have extremely handpicked individuals with years of training doing the field work for them, and they practice on every move here on earth before they do the real thing in space. the opposite is true in prometheus. its a privately funded mission full of civilians..
Vuyisile Sibeko I think it's meant to be part of the point that inside The Engineer's pyramid, the walls either constantly or occasionally move around and reconfigure themselves, like the Labyrinth of Minos, rendering their CG mapping useless and redundant - that's just the kind of level of subtle classical reference Ridley would just throw in there (without explicitly mentioning it) just for the hell of it. But you are right - they don't ever actually *SAY* that, and the characters themselves never appear to actually notice (beyond getting lost) - but there is the vague suggestion in the behaviour and programming of David that he has noticed that the walls move and just hasn't told anyone.
He got lost after his friend, the Xenobiologist, or alien life expert, got scared of an umpteen thousand year old engineer skull and ran away. Then the got lost, even though it’s straight back down the corridor, go into a room then had never entered, saw the drums of goo and the vagina snake, and that’s where the same guy loses all his fear and tries to pet it. These guys were “red shirts” right from the start. No way would you have either of them on a first contact mission.
The cgi alien's design looked weird, but the CGI work on the alien looked light years better than the prosthetic's used back from the old alien movies. And its movement and animation also looked alot better.
Popopki No joke brother, I've been doing nothing I shouldn't, no more than a malenky bit of a compliment. I hope you're all right in the Gulliver to viddy otherwise.
We need to decide who plays the lead. I'm thinking a space cop type of movie. Retrofuturistic Ai scenery. Stupendously endowed women in silver bikinis with guns. Someone pitch this to Tarentino, I'm sure he has a few ideas to add.
Not to mention the space explorers hired as the best team ever assembled that right after finding proof of alien life run off saying "you guys can stay if you want, bu t I'm going home!"
0:34 "You can't really have a science fiction movie without dumb stuff" - Comments like this are why sci-fi's rarely taken seriously and why production companies pump out the same tired tropes and cliches time and time again. No wonder this host 'liked' Prometheus. Would love to see a Tarantino sci-fi one day.
Bloody useless but sci-fi movies usually have bad decision making like the alien franchise itself started with bad decisions. Only sci-fi franchise I can think off without dumb decisions is the blade runner franchise.
If Tarantino did a sci-fi it would be shit just like everything else he's made since the 90's but if this was the 90's I'd say he do a fantastic job sadly that isn't so
I guess if Hollywood can lower the bar gradually enough, the popcorn-snuffling normy masses will change their preferences from bad to worse in order to keep with what's popular and convenient, resulting in lazily made movies and people with poor taste.
@@jerrygodeep4787 Well you can get away with the odd bad decision in a movie, if it's a good movie: Alien, Aliens. More difficult if the entire movie is full of bad decisions, audiences tend to notice things like that.
Tarantino is an asshole. He defended Roman Polanski for drugging and raping a 13 year old girl. Overall he's an edgy and degenerate scumbag. And a creepy pervert without a sense of morality.
His assessment is pretty spot on. Beautiful movie to watch if you don't dig too deep on the problems. The space cobra issue, the "running in line with the falling spaceship" problem, stuff like that.
How are they stupid exactly? I keep hearing this argument. Yes it would be stupid to try and approach a space Cobra, but some people like hedging their bets.
@@DestinyAwaits19 In Prometheus, the guy who maps the instillation gets lost? The creature dude pokes an obviously dangerous animal. They take their helmets off in an alien environment; the air being breathable is irrelevant, just one alien disease could mean death, our bodies have zero immune responses to anything outside of Earth, and an alien contagion on a spaceship like theirs would be a death sentence for the whole crew. In Covenant, they "just don't feel like going back into cryo-sleep" so they abandon the destination that they, and everyone on board, trained for, have information on, and are prepared for. They land on an unexplored planet, with no suits and protection from contamination. They split up without communication on an entirely hostile planet and trust an obviously untrustworthy individual who is the lone survivor in an alien dead city under totally shady circumstances. Ridley Scott has not had well written characters in most of his films for over a decade now, while his films have good cinematography, his characters and narratives have suffered greatly over the years. I think the best descriptions of Prometheus and Covenant are "Glass Half Empty" movies, some of it is great/good, but the parts that are bad just stand out so much that you question how they made it into the movie as compared to the good parts.
In the original script those two crew members were personally hired by Vickers. She found the most incompetent people she could as she wanted the mission to fail. Those characters are written to be incompetent. Its 'shown' in the film, but unfortunately not explained after script edits.
don't forget the guy who travelled to a distant planet in the hope of finding aliens and finds both an alien ship, alien remains and remnants of an alien civilisation... and then gets drunk because he's disappointed
He wanted to find humanities creators and talk to them. That's the soul reason why Weyland hired them for thay expedition is because they shared the same interest in locating their makers, and he got drunk and was disappointed because when they got there, they were all dead. Did you watch the movie?
@@brandonmeadows7972Yes but he is a fucking archaeologist, they have the most boring job in the fucking world, even if they don't find the makers alive they discover the remains of an intelligent civilization , any normal human would be extremely happy, they react like it's a normal tuesday to them
The "space cobra" was a worm which underwent transformation via engineer weapon. As far as the scientist's fearlessness, maybe his instincts were inclined to believe it was benign. Prometheus was GENIUSES.
Directors cut addresses all of these gaps unfortunately. Everything everyone had a problem with was solved with about 30 minutes of deleted scenes you can find on the blu ray version.
The stupid guy thought that he was Steve Irwin. “Crikey! Look at the size of that Space Cobra! Ooo, he’s a mean one! Look at his fangs! WOO, he almost bit me there! Let’s see if I can get a little closer…”
"The venom of a space cobra can kill a human in four hours if, say, bitten on the ankle or the thumb. However, a bite to the face or torso can bring death from paralysis within 20 minutes." Now, you should listen to this, 'cause this concerns you. "The amount of venom that can be delivered from a single bite can be gargantuan." You know, I've always liked that word... 'gargantuan'... so rarely have an opportunity to use it in a sentence. "If not treated quickly with antivenom, 10 to 15 milligrams can be fatal to human beings. However, the space cobra can deliver as much as 100 to 400 milligrams of venom from a single bite"
Yes! I share Quentin's sentiments exactly. The movie was a beautiful well-choreographed sci-fi epic. But there are stupid moments which are rather glaring and detract from the movie, like exactly the one he mentioned.
The amount of really good important scenes on the cutting room floor are rediculous and maddening. I wish they could have made this movie the way it was intended to be, a 4 hour epic.
whats worse is that they just found out that everyone on that planet were either killed or they evacuated the planet due to something dangerous.....then they find some creature and poke it in the face, cmon man put 2 and 2 together
21st century Tarantino expends a lot of his media time discussing trivia. Maybe all starting when he appeared, enthused, on that TV singing tournament.
Imagine all that money spent to build a space craft capable of traveling to another star system, and then crewing that space craft with possibly the stupidest people ever to have space piloting licenses. Tarantino is right, there are parts of that film, like the beginning, or any of the scenes with the Engineers, which are staggering in their beauty. And then there's the other 85% of the film.
I love how the pilot and crew just decises to sacrifice themselves based upon the words (with no explaining at all except that they have to stop that other craft) of a person they have only known for a few hours basicly and they have no clue what so ever if she is trustworthy and what she has discovered/been through except for a few of the strange, horrid things happened in or close to the ship. Not everything that happened on the ship based upon how it all was shown to us or how they behaved.
Trantino is holding back as much as he can. Anyone that loves cinema and the original Ridley Scott's Alien can't but think Prometheus is a pile of shit
Pretty much sums up my views on the movie. As a person who enjoyed it, and loves the franchise. I would of like to hear more of his thoughts on how it fit in with the franchise, because that was another big flaw, the fact that it doesn't really fit in with the "Alien" series. Also the host has Tarantino talking about movies, he shouldn't talk so much.
80's Ridley Scott should have directed Transformers, let Michael Bay stick to Miami Vice. Aliens is one of the best sci-fi movies ever, no love story side-plot, no teeny bopper pop-culture nonsense, no sunlight even.
James Welsby Really? I found his character so uninteresting, like if I wanted to see an engaging fassbender performance this wouldn't be on my list and tbh the button pressing, the ability to fluently speak an alien language was a stupid way of trying to advance the plot...David doesn't compare to Ash...heck even Bishop was better and Bishop wasn't in Aliens a lot.
good point. QT directions to actors before every take" act like its the end of the world and only you know it is and be over dramatic and hyper intense" kidding aside QT pushed film making when he broke into Hollywood. That's a fkn accomplishment!
No he doesn't that is the opposite of what Tarantino was talking about. JJ was just goofy fun relief but the Prometheus actors are taking themselves seriously while being mentally regarded to a ridiculous degree.
+Johnny Skinwalker Ridley Scott does not always make movies that are grounded in reality but that does not excuse inconsistent characters. The crew in 'Prometheus' were supposed to be top of their field scientists. Not dumb teens in a slasher film. The crew of the Nostradamus were smarter then the crew of Prometheus and the Nostadamus crew were space truckers.
Tarantino is one of those few people I'd like to just sit down and listen to. He is no doubt a genius so just listening to him describe his work, which he has great love for simply by the way he is passionately talking about his craft, would be an awesome experience.
He's probably the LAST person I'd like to sit and listen to. Yep. I'm fun at parties. But I also don't talk CONSTANTLY spouting 85% BS. Give me PTA. Any day of the week. (not coked up though).
It's a space cobra! "Ya, you don't go near them. They're renowned for their danger" I like that little bit of sarcastic irony that went completely under the radar.
Tarantino is not aware of a scene which was cut from the film. In this deleted scene, these two guys discovered the first lifeform on the planet. The lifeform was friendly and safe. And these two guys were praised by the crew for discovering the first ever alien life. History making stuff. This first discovery sets up their eagerness to make a second discovery.
Cut scenes are not exist in context of the film. And could not be qualified as explanation or anything… Tarantino had a good point - scientists in this movie are unbelievably dumb.
No, Craig, no. Dont argue with the awarded and acclaimed filmmaker and film critic. Prometheus had everything to be awesome and we all wished so hard that it was but it wasnt, it was an enormous bunch of "...ok...what...the...fuuuu...?...?"
Moral: Don't fuck with space cobras or any cobras in general.
gud advice
Quinten Tarantino is not the boss of me.
I almost stepped on a king cobra once
Dude was afraid of an alien corpse but looked a space cobra in the face lol
I mean rick said it to morty and he didn't listen
- It's ok. The air is breathable. You can take your helmets off.
- No, we can't.
The engineer from Galaxy quest does a better job than those clowns xD
Your script is less interesting but makes a whole lot more sense! 😆
@@Gfors85Lol, yeah, Galaxy Quest was surprisingly good compared to Prometheus...
THIS was the biggest flaw IMO.
@@tguf456galaxy quest is a masterpiece.
He's right, those are not the kind of astronauts anyone would choose. It seemed more like they came from a casting for a reality tv show
thersten good point. More serious/low-key characters would have worked much better.
Hahahaha oh shit! I'm with you! 👍🏿
+thersten its not like today when they pick a select few test pilots to be astronauts. the whole of civilisation travels space in the alien films universe. If you are going to be that picky then why not pick something more substantial like travelling x lightyears in a short time... you would have to disregard the whole film.. and Quentin with his magic tricks...... you would have to disregard all of his films too.
Well you had a male version of Hilary clinton running the team
***** what?
I agree with Quentin thats the flaw I found with the film that these so called proffesional scientist/astronauts made some of the dumbest decisions.
Most of them were also quite redundant, had no real significance and really only existed as plot mechanisms - which is what they felt like - and of course in turn a movie driven solely by plot mechanisms will have great difficulty creating any real sense of depth or theme and just generally making you care whether the protagonists live or die. It's gonna feel just like what it is - contrived, shallow and soulless. Just another piece of flaky movie-math trying to arrive at some preordained result with a bunch of set-pieces thrown in along the way for a bit of an aesthetic diversion.
+whynottalklikeapirat
Yeah, sadly that seems to describe like, every Ridley Scott movie in the past, I dunno, fifteen years. Can you remember the last movie he made where he didn't do any of the above things you described? I can't. Maybe Gladiator. And that was what, 2000? Sad. He made a few good movies in the '80s but those days are long behind him.
+whynottalklikeapirat
But he did do Matchstick Men. I liked that one.
Justin Head
He is strangely inconsistent that way. I think that he is very much about the visual and the aestethic and then it sort of depends on the quality of the script and the actors how the rest turns out. Sometimes he just becomes too smooth and it's to much with the grain and too little depth.
Ripleys crewmate did the same thing in _Alien_, when they first encountered the face-hugger egg... On the crashed Engineer ship.
The best part is that 5 minutes earlier the same scientist was scared shitless about the oddities they could find only to pet the first alien life form he sees.
Clearly long dead, fossilised oddities.
It was cute what can he say
Same guy peaced out after seeing long dead alien corpse. He also got lost on the way out with the guy in charge of the mapping robots
Idris Elba: Got to bang Charlize Theron and shoot a rocket ship at another space ship. Worth.
@@SnuggsMcDuffseriously though 😂 idris was there to “fly” the ship (why you wouldnt want a literal AI to pilot it is beyond me)flirt with the blond woman, fuck her half way through the movie and then die in some one off hero way.
Hes absolutely right.Everyone was an idiot in that movie
Also the guy didn't notice David putting the pill in the drink right in front of him. lol
No I hadn't seen it fully but it seems self explanatory that David is planning to infect/drug him, and plants this in the drink right in front of Tom Hardy's clone, and doesn't notice. It's stupid.
Don't watch the sequel, it's even dumber, if you can imagine that.
The writing in prometheus and covenant is....INSANELY bad. I cant understand why ridley scott of all people would decide to go along with that script
+secret guy Tom Hardy's clone hahahaha i was thinking in whole the movie is that Tom hardy??????
"That's a SPACE COBRA!!!" - For all of the things Tarantino has gotten wrong over the years, the way he deals with character reactions always shines: his characters feel pain, they are frightened, they get hungry, they stumble, their guns jam. His dialogue is great, but I don't think he gets enough credit for just looking at a situation and saying "would an actual person actually goochy goo a space cobra??"
agreed.
Jessica Breeden, yeah Tarantino is a master, but in the script there was a reason for the scientist to do that, in the movie they cut it out.
Was there a motivated reason to "fool a decapitated head into thinking it's alive"? Apart from blowing up for the camera, I mean.
That's the bit that stumps me in Prometheus.
Steve Irwin would look at a cobra and say "goochy goo". And probably call it a "Sheila". That's how I rationalised it, I suppose. Those scientists are just braver than us.
Steve Irwin was a very controversial figure while alive and plenty of experts heavilycriticized his way of handling wildlife. I liked the guy, but just because he did it doesn't mean it's *the* safe and responsible way to do it.
Also, there is a HUGE difference between handling a snake from earth, which is a well known creature, and going full Steve Irwin with an alien animal you have absolutely no idea how it is going to behave and react.
I also hated the moment that narrow spaceship was falling over. Instead of running sideways and easily escaping, THEY RUN IN THE DIRECTION THE SHIP IS FALLING. AND GUESS WHAT, ONE OF THEM DIES.
They saw it in cartoons.
Oh my Lord...exactly! A face-slap moment.
Exactly!!!!!!
To be fair the other one survived
@@pantherlloyd3795 Barely... After finally going sideways.
I would love to see QT do a sci-fi movie.
***** Sam Jackson is going to play an android.
telling ya, it would be a space trip from one planet to the other and the two protagonists just talking in the cockpit all the way through.
Digital Creative Front I'd be okay with that.
Digital Creative Front
Sounds goddamn amazing to me tbh
Jerel Damon We may be in luck as he’s written a story for a new Star Trek film and is attached to direct it also :)
Prometheus was beautifully filmed, sumptuously lit, expertly designed, well acted and UTTERLY IMPLAUSIBLE BOLLOCKS.
Still ten times better than the stink of covenant
@@chatteyjno, both movies suck
@@chatteyj No way - i'd rather suffer Covenant
@@Paul_1971 Your boyfriend Jesse Smollet's presence ruined it ☠
LOL - if you say so
Closest thing I could imagine to tarantino making a Sci - Fi movie would be starship troopers.
Until Samuel L Jackson shows up with a handgun and calls the aliens a bitch, before poppin a cap in day ass.
_The Thing_ and the original _Alien_ are his two most inspired sci fi films because they are very character oriented, claustrophobic, paranoid and terrifying.
I seriously don’t understand how some people when making scenes don’t stand back and think to themselves “does this make sense ?”
Thank you. I wonder that constantly.
Some people just wanna get paid
Too many cooks in the writer's room can cause this problem. Too many conflicting ideas of what the movie should be leads to people not bothering to say anything at all. Whenever this happens, there are dozens of people in the production wondering "what the f are we doing". Basically the bureaucracy is too difficult to navigate on set for corrective ideas to get through
@@ChronoX720 I mean that’s obviously true. I just figure people wanna put in more work and effort. It’s like a journalist pushing out a story with only the first without getting the names spelled correctly
I'm sure they do but they probably can't do anything about it
Interesting that Tarantino is annoyed by the same thing as most fans: The dumb characters.
Surprising that dumb scenes pass the test-screenings
He's just saying that there were some dumb things in it. Not focusing on its flaws as he points out its epic.
But in a movie that's half epic-good and half cliche-shit., its kind of due to see what drove them to making the mediocre decisions, artistically speaking. Espeically since Ridley Scott is an auteur (?) and are his days numbered? Has he entered George Lucasland of money incentives and special effects becoming primary, (to employ the field he developed) If it didnt have the budget it had it would of been better.
if they cut out All the stupid, the movie would have been 30 min long. and probably much better.
Well, since his characters are always amazing, is obvious that he put his eyes on that kind of beehavior. He can make an actor like the guy who play Hugo Stiglitz and make it HUGO STIGLITZ and you love it, even thou the guy is actually a bad actor in other movies.
BenRangel That's because Quentin is a fan of cinema in general. You don't get into movies if you hate them (Unless you're a producer) He is the only famous person I have seen that will talk about someone's work and say "You know, I thought that was fucking stupid." Great man.
@@kanegarvey3188 Many even Ridley are opinionated, don't know why you think it's so unique. And Tarantino loves a lot of B movies with a lot of dumb character decisions which should set an example for these haters.
The movie had strong atmosphere for a good chunk of it, that's about all I remember from it
And the stupid characters. The movie looked great and all the characters snacked on lead chips on the trip up.
@@ParkerFriedChicken well in real life people are immensely dumb in many situations, especially when `winging it` under stress. this is why space orgs like nasa have extremely handpicked individuals with years of training doing the field work for them, and they practice on every move here on earth before they do the real thing in space. the opposite is true in prometheus. its a privately funded mission full of civilians..
I love how Quentin is just a genuine movie buff
No! the worst part is the map maker GETTING LOST!!
That's the most disappointing part.
+Vuyisile Sibeko For me it happened much sooner... When they FORGET to launch any/all DRONES before landing the ship.
+Vuyisile Sibeko I wanted to strangle him.
+Vuyisile Sibeko fuckin A
Vuyisile Sibeko I think it's meant to be part of the point that inside The Engineer's pyramid, the walls either constantly or occasionally move around and reconfigure themselves, like the Labyrinth of Minos, rendering their CG mapping useless and redundant - that's just the kind of level of subtle classical reference Ridley would just throw in there (without explicitly mentioning it) just for the hell of it.
But you are right - they don't ever actually *SAY* that, and the characters themselves never appear to actually notice (beyond getting lost) - but there is the vague suggestion in the behaviour and programming of David that he has noticed that the walls move and just hasn't told anyone.
He got lost after his friend, the Xenobiologist, or alien life expert, got scared of an umpteen thousand year old engineer skull and ran away. Then the got lost, even though it’s straight back down the corridor, go into a room then had never entered, saw the drums of goo and the vagina snake, and that’s where the same guy loses all his fear and tries to pet it. These guys were “red shirts” right from the start. No way would you have either of them on a first contact mission.
Craig was such a great talk show host. Just so friendly and genuine with his guests.
You're kidding? That fake laugh over and over... yuck.
Prometheus was as stupid as it was beautiful.
+John Smith preach girlfriend
That's the best description I've ever come across! Sooo true😂
A little like Jennifer Tilly.
The cgi alien's design looked weird, but the CGI work on the alien looked light years better than the prosthetic's used back from the old alien movies. And its movement and animation also looked alot better.
John Smith well put.
I went to the *Prometheus school of running away from things*.
+Popopki Wow. That was, the funniest joke I've ever heard in my life. How did you come up with something so fresh and creative?
Popopki No joke brother, I've been doing nothing I shouldn't, no more than a malenky bit of a compliment. I hope you're all right in the Gulliver to viddy otherwise.
***** You try to frighten me, admit so, sir. This is some new form of torture! Say it, Brother Sir.
***** Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I remember seeing that seeing that scene for the first time and just... asking myself how this made it into the movie
'In the name of science, I will put my face in it!'
"Any Cobra! I'm not getting into it's face."
The space cobra scene was absolutely ridiculous but totally necessary for the plot
Came here 11 years later to learn the term "Space Cobra" sounds like a great movie franchise
We need to decide who plays the lead. I'm thinking a space cop type of movie. Retrofuturistic Ai scenery. Stupendously endowed women in silver bikinis with guns. Someone pitch this to Tarentino, I'm sure he has a few ideas to add.
@@vilefly Funnily enough, there is an old manga and anime called Space Adventurer Cobra, with pretty much your description😂
@@itswilbur3747 Well, that's surprising. Jesus, did I say that or think that? Could they hear me.....or read my mind? Where's the aluminum foil?
Not to mention the space explorers hired as the best team ever assembled that right after finding proof of alien life run off saying "you guys can stay if you want, bu t I'm going home!"
lol, he was a geologist, he did rocks.
It's always interesting to see the range of Quentin. As weird as he is in some videos he's so down to earth in others.
I love Tarantino but I think Prometheous was a masterpiece. I absolutely loved that movie. Still one of my top favorites
Wish Tarantino had a podcast just to talk about movies with different people
Lets not forgot the running in a straight line when that ship was rolling.
Let us not forget his co-worker with the mohawk was the MAP guy who MAPPED the whole area but the script is like. "They're lost"
"Any cobra!" - Fergeson getting owned.
But it's not actually a cobra....
@@bobdole7451 you're mom
@@8triagrammer you're dad
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@@8triagrammer your* mom
1:06 lmfao!!!
I love how the world's most experienced geologist got lost even thought they had a floating orb that mapped out the entire tunnel system.
Yep, with a live feed and direct communication to the pilot & crew still onboard monitoring everything that happens....
The worst part was the landing. No survey of the planet from space. No remote probe. No landing team to check it out first. Just, "Land! There!"
While having a live feed to the ship where the captain is monitoring their movements.
One thing you can say about Prometheus is you definitely won't be bored
A host has never not said, "I loved that movie."
They know not to bite the hand that feeds them.
0:34 "You can't really have a science fiction movie without dumb stuff" - Comments like this are why sci-fi's rarely taken seriously and why production companies pump out the same tired tropes and cliches time and time again. No wonder this host 'liked' Prometheus. Would love to see a Tarantino sci-fi one day.
Bloody useless but sci-fi movies usually have bad decision making like the alien franchise itself started with bad decisions. Only sci-fi franchise I can think off without dumb decisions is the blade runner franchise.
It was a joke. Laugh. Be happy.
If Tarantino did a sci-fi it would be shit just like everything else he's made since the 90's but if this was the 90's I'd say he do a fantastic job sadly that isn't so
I guess if Hollywood can lower the bar gradually enough, the popcorn-snuffling normy masses will change their preferences from bad to worse in order to keep with what's popular and convenient, resulting in lazily made movies and people with poor taste.
@@jerrygodeep4787 Well you can get away with the odd bad decision in a movie, if it's a good movie: Alien, Aliens. More difficult if the entire movie is full of bad decisions, audiences tend to notice things like that.
I view Prometheus, not as a terrible Alien franchise film, but as a fantastic sci-fi DISASTER MOVIE. Viewed through that lens, it’s great.
The engineer was no way big enough to fill the space jockey seat from aliens
Yeup.
EXACTIMUNDO!! Oh my God! I've been saying that for years!
It’s one of the longest running mysteries in a movie franchise. At this point, they’re purposefully not answering it. I say that’s bs😂
no
@@rong2912 maybe?
I love you, Quentin.
😂 you're funny. I love how outspoken he is. He does not give a fuck. I really admire that.
Cevahir Ileri jesus you're following quentin everywhere.
Tarantino is an asshole. He defended Roman Polanski for drugging and raping a 13 year old girl.
Overall he's an edgy and degenerate scumbag. And a creepy pervert without a sense of morality.
His assessment is pretty spot on. Beautiful movie to watch if you don't dig too deep on the problems. The space cobra issue, the "running in line with the falling spaceship" problem, stuff like that.
Omg the falling spaceship still remember this abomination
@@ninelaaa
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Prometheus: the characters are a bit stupid
Covenant: hold my beer, none of us passed 5th grade
How are they stupid exactly? I keep hearing this argument. Yes it would be stupid to try and approach a space Cobra, but some people like hedging their bets.
@@DestinyAwaits19 In Prometheus, the guy who maps the instillation gets lost? The creature dude pokes an obviously dangerous animal. They take their helmets off in an alien environment; the air being breathable is irrelevant, just one alien disease could mean death, our bodies have zero immune responses to anything outside of Earth, and an alien contagion on a spaceship like theirs would be a death sentence for the whole crew.
In Covenant, they "just don't feel like going back into cryo-sleep" so they abandon the destination that they, and everyone on board, trained for, have information on, and are prepared for. They land on an unexplored planet, with no suits and protection from contamination. They split up without communication on an entirely hostile planet and trust an obviously untrustworthy individual who is the lone survivor in an alien dead city under totally shady circumstances.
Ridley Scott has not had well written characters in most of his films for over a decade now, while his films have good cinematography, his characters and narratives have suffered greatly over the years. I think the best descriptions of Prometheus and Covenant are "Glass Half Empty" movies, some of it is great/good, but the parts that are bad just stand out so much that you question how they made it into the movie as compared to the good parts.
In the original script those two crew members were personally hired by Vickers. She found the most incompetent people she could as she wanted the mission to fail. Those characters are written to be incompetent. Its 'shown' in the film, but unfortunately not explained after script edits.
Why did she want them to fail?
@@Chrisratatato screw with daddy.
@@Chrisratata She's pissed off at her dad.
@@Chrisratata daddy issues
The Lieutenant in _Aliens_ was hired for his incompetence too.
the deleted scenes etc reeeeaaaally make everything make sense
Well deleted scenes dont justify the movie dumbness
The only reason why Tarantino hasn't done sci-fi is because someone has already made _Alien_ and _The Thing._
don't forget the guy who travelled to a distant planet in the hope of finding aliens and finds both an alien ship, alien remains and remnants of an alien civilisation... and then gets drunk because he's disappointed
He wanted to find humanities creators and talk to them. That's the soul reason why Weyland hired them for thay expedition is because they shared the same interest in locating their makers, and he got drunk and was disappointed because when they got there, they were all dead. Did you watch the movie?
@@brandonmeadows7972Yes but he is a fucking archaeologist, they have the most boring job in the fucking world, even if they don't find the makers alive they discover the remains of an intelligent civilization , any normal human would be extremely happy, they react like it's a normal tuesday to them
The "space cobra" was a worm which underwent transformation via engineer weapon. As far as the scientist's fearlessness, maybe his instincts were inclined to believe it was benign. Prometheus was GENIUSES.
I'v seen ALL of Tarantino films & they are all 1st class. I would love to see if a Sci-Fi flick made by him..
"my my that is ONE tasty space burger!"
Directors cut addresses all of these gaps unfortunately. Everything everyone had a problem with was solved with about 30 minutes of deleted scenes you can find on the blu ray version.
Interesting. I'll try and get a copy of the blu ray version and see of the film is any better.
Can only imagine what he thought of Covenant
Ridley's response: Tarantino just spent too much time on his phone during the "dumb stuff"
The stupid guy thought that he was Steve Irwin. “Crikey! Look at the size of that Space Cobra! Ooo, he’s a mean one! Look at his fangs! WOO, he almost bit me there! Let’s see if I can get a little closer…”
Honestly this was some good back and fourth on movies, it’s what late night is missing anymore
My god he's really cute and friendly guy! wanna give him a hug.
+오율평 But out of his mind at the same time.
wow, that was one lame comparison . Guy must come from some cringe-ass teen drama or something
I love that movie in spite of the few dumb things. Go to another planet, things go really, really wrong. AWESOME.
"The venom of a space cobra can kill a human in four hours if, say, bitten on the ankle or the thumb. However, a bite to the face or torso can bring death from paralysis within 20 minutes." Now, you should listen to this, 'cause this concerns you. "The amount of venom that can be delivered from a single bite can be gargantuan." You know, I've always liked that word... 'gargantuan'... so rarely have an opportunity to use it in a sentence. "If not treated quickly with antivenom, 10 to 15 milligrams can be fatal to human beings. However, the space cobra can deliver as much as 100 to 400 milligrams of venom from a single bite"
+Diamond Gaming Gargantuan is almost daily used in france, french people love the "rabelaisian" legacy.
California Mountain Snake
4l4k4z4m4 I know. CMS just quoted it.
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It was not a snake at all but one of the worms that were trod on whose genetics became weaponized.
a tarantino podcast ranting about movies would be fun
Yes! I share Quentin's sentiments exactly. The movie was a beautiful well-choreographed sci-fi epic. But there are stupid moments which are rather glaring and detract from the movie, like exactly the one he mentioned.
Very visually stunning film, made you want to know more of the Engineers origin
Vickers hired idiots for the Prometheus because she wanted her father's mission to fail.
that makes most sense
They deleted the scene explaining that so it's just a plot hole in the actual movie.
Comment section filling up the plot holes
I would love to meet Quentin! He seems like such an awesome guy
I just loved the tone of it so much i didn't care about charize therons running or whatever. The cold ominous quiet of it felt great.
The amount of really good important scenes on the cutting room floor are rediculous and maddening. I wish they could have made this movie the way it was intended to be, a 4 hour epic.
whats worse is that they just found out that everyone on that planet were either killed or they evacuated the planet due to something dangerous.....then they find some creature and poke it in the face,
cmon man put 2 and 2 together
21st century Tarantino expends a lot of his media time discussing trivia.
Maybe all starting when he appeared, enthused, on that TV singing tournament.
Imagine all that money spent to build a space craft capable of traveling to another star system, and then crewing that space craft with possibly the stupidest people ever to have space piloting licenses.
Tarantino is right, there are parts of that film, like the beginning, or any of the scenes with the Engineers, which are staggering in their beauty. And then there's the other 85% of the film.
Still unbelievably human looking, "oh but that's because they made us!" Which is even more implausible given... mountains of evidence?
I love how the pilot and crew just decises to sacrifice themselves based upon the words (with no explaining at all except that they have to stop that other craft) of a person they have only known for a few hours basicly and they have no clue what so ever if she is trustworthy and what she has discovered/been through except for a few of the strange, horrid things happened in or close to the ship. Not everything that happened on the ship based upon how it all was shown to us or how they behaved.
He’s a bigger cinephile than a filmmaker, and maybe that’s what I love most.
Trantino is holding back as much as he can. Anyone that loves cinema and the original Ridley Scott's Alien can't but think Prometheus is a pile of shit
The deleted scenes explain a lot that otherwise seems "stupid" in the theatrical version
"ANY cobra!"
Cobra Kai!
Pretty much sums up my views on the movie. As a person who enjoyed it, and loves the franchise. I would of like to hear more of his thoughts on how it fit in with the franchise, because that was another big flaw, the fact that it doesn't really fit in with the "Alien" series. Also the host has Tarantino talking about movies, he shouldn't talk so much.
80's Ridley Scott should have directed Transformers, let Michael Bay stick to Miami Vice.
Aliens is one of the best sci-fi movies ever, no love story side-plot, no teeny bopper pop-culture nonsense, no sunlight even.
Aliens was made by James Cameron.
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Why do I always confuse the two... Yes! James Cameron should have directed Transformers.
Running in a straight path away from a giant thing falling, I was yelling at the screen to run to the side.
no one is going to mention Craig's snake mug?
Best of all, the guy in charge of getting them out with laser balls to map the entire building gets lost...
Man if he didn’t make the scientists so stupid this movie would’ve been a 10/10 but he got lazy
Only thing in the movie I liked were scenes involving Fassbender's android character. Apart from that I was really disappointed.
James Welsby he's always engaging in his characters. I agree.
idris elba fucking killed his part tho. love that guy
+LazyBob except for his bad accent
except it was flawless?
James Welsby Really? I found his character so uninteresting, like if I wanted to see an engaging fassbender performance this wouldn't be on my list and tbh the button pressing, the ability to fluently speak an alien language was a stupid way of trying to advance the plot...David doesn't compare to Ash...heck even Bishop was better and Bishop wasn't in Aliens a lot.
good point. QT directions to actors before every take" act like its the end of the world and only you know it is and be over dramatic and hyper intense"
kidding aside QT pushed film making when he broke into Hollywood. That's a fkn accomplishment!
“For every Obiwan you need your JarJar” this guy gets it lol
No he doesn't that is the opposite of what Tarantino was talking about. JJ was just goofy fun relief but the Prometheus actors are taking themselves seriously while being mentally regarded to a ridiculous degree.
Prometheus had a great trailer.................... that's about it....
I guess you expected the movie to be realistic
@@rong2912 not realistic, just believable. Became silly as soon as the guy took his helmet off for no reason
@@MarkMash17 I equate realism with believability.
Anyone got this recommended after seeing Alien: Romulus?
deeply flawed film, and yet i really enjoyed it,. i ven bought ir and i've seen it several times
the straight line running with the giant falling ship...
It's not like QT movies are known for reality and logic.
+Johnny Skinwalker Ridley films are.
Rodolfo P. Jacinto II not really.
Johnny Skinwalker
Somewhat
+Johnny Skinwalker Ridley Scott does not always make movies that are grounded in reality but that does not excuse inconsistent characters.
The crew in 'Prometheus' were supposed to be top of their field scientists. Not dumb teens in a slasher film. The crew of the Nostradamus were smarter then the crew of Prometheus and the Nostadamus crew were space truckers.
+Crom Cthulhuson the 'Nostromo'
You'll thank me later.
Tarantino is one of those few people I'd like to just sit down and listen to. He is no doubt a genius so just listening to him describe his work, which he has great love for simply by the way he is passionately talking about his craft, would be an awesome experience.
He's probably the LAST person I'd like to sit and listen to. Yep. I'm fun at parties. But I also don't talk CONSTANTLY spouting 85% BS. Give me PTA. Any day of the week. (not coked up though).
So many dumb moments in that film. Script was terrible. So bad.
“It’s a space cobra!!” lmfao
damn i remember how hyped i was for it. taught me that hype is horrible and to not fall for it
Besides some silly bits, it’s really an awesome movie. Underrated.
Tarantino doesn't get it.
Craig Ferguson: "You can't really have a science fiction film without some dumb stuff."
Tarkovsky: "Hold my vodka."
Prometheus was the worst thing since my son.
damn...
I heard you son hanged himself in the gas station bathroom. Unfortunately Prometheus will be around forever... it will never go away.
Damn, son.
They may have gone too far in a few places
It was stylistically designed to be that way
It's a space cobra!
"Ya, you don't go near them. They're renowned for their danger"
I like that little bit of sarcastic irony that went completely under the radar.
Agreed. It was such a stupid scene and insulting to the Alien franchise.
was the original `poke my head over an opening egg` scene any better
Yeah because aliens made of cellular tissue while having no problem with acid for blood is totally acceptable
Tarantino is not aware of a scene which was cut from the film. In this deleted scene, these two guys discovered the first lifeform on the planet. The lifeform was friendly and safe. And these two guys were praised by the crew for discovering the first ever alien life. History making stuff. This first discovery sets up their eagerness to make a second discovery.
Yes exactly
It's still a stupid scene and the characters are still dumb as hell.
Cut scenes are not exist in context of the film. And could not be qualified as explanation or anything… Tarantino had a good point - scientists in this movie are unbelievably dumb.
Prometheus was an awesome continuation of an brilliant franchise !
You say this in the comments section underneath a clip lampooning one of the dumbest scenes in a sci-fi movie ever.
That was precisely MY issue with Prometheus, too!
No, Craig, no. Dont argue with the awarded and acclaimed filmmaker and film critic. Prometheus had everything to be awesome and we all wished so hard that it was but it wasnt, it was an enormous bunch of "...ok...what...the...fuuuu...?...?"
Exactly how I feel about Alien... But I guess they're technically just truckers.
Prometheus had no story.
My exact view.... Quinton makes a great point. And id like to hear a 20 minute long video how he would fix the movie.