I do think it’s a life style choice having a Z4 I’m 54 kids gone live on my own so I’m at the stage where I need a bit of fun and a car that puts a big fat smile on my face every time I drive it, or get one before kids come along if you can afford running cost ect you can get a decent one for really not a lot of money and they are fun to drive 🤩🤩🤩👍 hope your ok Joel great vid mate 👍
Absolutely love Z4’s, I’ve been lucky to have 3 over the years (2.2auto, 2.2 manual and 3.0 manual) great cars to buy total bargain which in my opinion makes it ok when it comes to running costs. As for the tech, if you enjoy driving the tech doesn’t matter at all, personally I prefer simple tech on a car. Great vids Joel 👍
P J Love mine and how simple it is but the only thing I wish it had is a backup camera. Wife’s Merc has one it’s made me lazy and awful at backing up 😂
Just recently purchased my 06 Z4 3.0si, and it was in large part due to your videos like this one. Thanks for all the genuine, in-depth content Joel! Keep it up!
The parts are a moot point. The Z4's parts are not any more expensive than other BMWs and the Z4 is very reliable since it shares most parts with the E46 3 series - for example the DISA valve. Parts are like fuel, you have to put them in regardless of how long you keep your car. You only consider the cost of the parts to the value of the car if you intend to replace it in the near future. The run-flats are terrible so they need to be changed. The small steering and busy tires and suspension mean it is more tiring to commute in. The ground clearance is very low so you'll be scraping stuff more often. The cabin is small so it will quickly get stuffy, especially with two bodies, if the circulation is not turned up. And yes, the equivalent 3-series got way more gadgets such as folding mirrors on reverse. Hope you develop more patience with age. That old man will one day be you.
@stubbk3 Not big deals if you are on top of your maintenance. If you think you are going to find more reliable BMWs out there, good luck! The newer N52 engine is rock solid.
Maintenance has to be put in perspective, either buy new at 40grand or buy old at 5grand and spend 10grand in maintenence...youre still ahead buying used.
I was originally looking at Audi TT mk2 videos when your video popped up in my suggestions box. I’m so glad I went with the Z4! I love how low you sit in it but I would agree that the ride is very stiff. I only have the 2.5 engine and I still find it stiff. I test drove a 2.0 and they are somewhat softer but I wanted an inline 6 engine as opposed to the 4 pot 2.0l so I wasn’t bothered about the compromised ride quality. If anyone is thinking of getting a Z4 I would say to Factor in the cost of replacing the run flat tyres. A lot of people comment on how the run flats tramline and follow any imperfections in the road and that is so true!
@@itsjoel Owning an E92 325i myself (that also comes standard with run flats) I would recommend; don't fit runflats at all, ever. Just take an AA subscription or something. Wait half an hour for them to come and help you in the unlikely event of a flat tyre. For the once every 5 to 10 years (on average, I guess) that you encounter a flat, I would gladly wait a bit. Deffo not worth enduring the behaviour of the stiff runflats all the time. I bought my car a few months ago and I couldn't wait until I was able to remove the runflats. Even now on winter tyres the car drives a whole lot better. And safer, I dare to say. In the odd occasion someone else drives my car, you always got to warn them to keep both hands on the wheel in corners and stuff, because potholes and stuff will cause it to bite you unexpectedly. Don't get me started about the premiums you must pay to have the 'pleasure' of run flat tyres on your car. Trust me; binning them is the cheapest and best mod you can do to any BMW. - Lars from the Netherlands
@@quattrorsq8558 I disagree, having gone for the TT myself. Now i'm looking at changing it for a Z4.. But it depends on what you're looking for I think. The TT isn't a bad car at all, it's just not a drivers car.
Just grabbed a 2003 2.5i last year with 41k miles on it and love it BUT I just put in $2500 into oil gaskets drying out in 3 places, new battery, replacement mirror (flew off). So yeah its not cheap to own this car but man does it draw attention to it! Fun to drive for sure!
Bought a 2.5 two months ago after watching your videos. Still think e85 is pretty cool and less technology is OK cause im not really good at it. Thanks joel
I have a '08 Z4M coupe and my dad has an '08 cayman, we both paid pretty much the same amount for them (mine was £500 more) and for what he got in comparison to what i got is shocking really. I have 6 gears he only has 5, his is running with roughly 240 BHP, im pushing 350 and the interior is so incredibly cheap feeling its not what i imagined from a porsche. When looking for a 2 seat, affordable sports car the only real option in my mind is the Z4 and Z4M.
Ross Miller I have driven many, many crazy cars. My cousin boguht z4m with kw v3 suspension. After I drove it I consider that is the best car in the world (drivingwise). Something to consider, z4m has a csl rack and brakes, add some intake and exhaust mods and there you have it. CSL :)
When I was looking at cars in early Nov, my old man was trying to push me in the direction of a Boxster or Cayman, as he was not a fan of the Z4. He generally does not like the Bangle designed cars, but once I told him there was an M version of the E85/86 with the S54 like his E46 M3 cab had, he suddenly became more supportive of my choice of the Z4M. He's now become just as smitten with the car as I have and has even complimented it's styling cues, but is adamant that he will never like how the front end looks with the headlight design. We've both been amazed at just how well together my E85 M feels. Bar the typical rattles from the roofs frame, it's not got any annoying noises, rattles or squeeks. I have always loved the E86, as an old friend of mine got a brand new E86 3.0 and it was this that made me lust for the E85 and E86. To me, the E86 M, really reminds me of what a Rocket Bunny body kit looks like. The boot lid and spoiler just look amazing and the E85/86 from the rear quarter view is design perfection. The only negative I have to say about my own E85 M (which I think they all have) is it's tricky to get it to go into 2nd when it's still cold, but once it's all up to operating temp, it suddenly becomes a nice smooth shift. From 2008 until I stopped driving in 2016 for two years, I only averaged 3000 miles a year, yet since late Nov, I have managed to do 1000 miles already! A few of my non petrolhead buddies thought they were being funny when they said I had a woman's/hair dressers car, when I uploaded some pics I had taken of my E85 M. I pointed out that a car weighing about 1400KG's with 343BHP and six speed manual, was the furthest thing you could get from being a car like an SLK. Oddly enough, the mk1, MX-5 (Eunos) was/is also called the same thing, yet they are some of the best handling cars you could get and allows the driver to really push the car, as it's so well balanced. When I saw on a Z4 forum, a post where they called the E85 M a more "grown up" version of the MX-5, I had to agree. I use to own a JDM MK1 MX-5 V-Special and my E85 M really reminds me of just how dialed in that car use to be. I really can see me not wanting to ever get rid of this car and it's possibly the first car I've owned that my dad is constantly asking me if he could take it out for a bit of a hoon, or how he finds some odd reason he quickly needs to borrow my car, like it needs putting away in the garage, but he takes a 40 mile detour to do so lol
Tyre pressure warning system will work on any tyres :) All it does is warns you if any wheel's average rotational speed increases by a certain amount. This indicates that the rolling circumference has reduced, which will generally be because the tyre pressure has dropped.
I have a daily 2.5 Z4 2005 and a Volvo XC70 2002 foor the family weekend trips. The Volvo is very very very much mor expensive in maintenance and fuel. I use the Z4 10000km and the Volvo (incl vacations) 4000km a year.
With the non Z4M's, the runflats can really effect the ride and road noise. Going over to a normal tyre like the M, will improve things all round. BMW's luckily have a strong specialist market, so you don't need to lose quality by not going to the dealers. My family have had BMW's since the 90's and when I owned an E30 Alpina, trying to get work done by a dealer was a royal pain for me in Oxford.
Love the video mate, and the way you break it all down! I'm thinking of getting a Z4 as a weekend / holiday / non commuting car, and these videos are helpful in the decision making! Hope yours is still going strong
Liked you critical assessment of to buy or not to buy. I have 2005 Z4 and drive it every day. Have had the roof motor die and replaced it. Also there are very few after market parts and it has cost me about half what I have paid for the car.
I own 2003 3.0i SMG, there are many alternates in terms of parts. The parts catalogue is online, maintenance instructions are online, non oem disa valve is around 60 usd on AliExpress. There are also repair kits for the disa valve, which are around 15 usd. For tyres, I have recently switched to non-runflats, much much better. The remarks on my side would be check if the water drains are clear, check if wheel arches and headlight covers and their seals are intact, do a waterproofness test with top up. Check carpets if they are wet. Check coolant level. Check the leaks under body. (SMG hydraulics may have leaks, not expensive to repair again). I have also wired a bluetooth receiver to the AUX on the original BMW business radio, enjoying the original sound system which is very satisfying. I have many small replacements on the car and up to now it is pretty much reliable.
Hello I purchased a Z4 2,5i 192hp .. and would also like to hear music over bluetooth. Can you explain me what exactly you did to hear music over bluetooth? Maybe you could send a link of the gear you bought? Greets
If you can do repairs and maintenance yourself an E85 is unbelievable cheap. Good quality non OEM Parts are also cheap. There are only a few parts, like the DISA valve which are expensive.
Agreed. In the first 5 months of owning mine I replaced the rear springs, front wishbone bushes, front and rear discs and pads amongst other things and all of those listed parts cost me under £250 for parts of OEM+ quality. I don't get any kind of trade discounts either. It's been a bargain to maintain so far!
@@surgeknight5725 it's taken from the German name for the variable inlet our engines have. It's quite a noticeable change in engine tone when it switches open.
😆nice informative video and insights Joel, as I'm one of those old people who is also an advanced driver it made me smile and laugh. I've had convertible sports cars the only issues I have are the getting in and out, It's a younger persons car, but a lot of fun if you can manage the ride and lack of comfort. Thank you Joel, bice video.
I am about to buy a Z4 about the same model engine size and age up to 6k 2021, but I think of it this way, I have a 16 Reg Peugeot (PUG) 208 1.2l to sell worth about 6K (8k when I brought it 1 year old) and to be honest it is a fantastic little car and performs well in any conditions and can overtake with plenty of power when needed. I can upgrade to a newer version or similar car and spend a few thousand more or I can have more fun for less money and spend what I save on refurbishment of the Z4 :) I am an old person ( Don't slag off old people who are driving, they are still alive, unlike younger drivers embedded into trees ;) Lol). Joking aside the savings over purchasing a newer car can keep an older more fun car on the road if you plan to keep it or even if you do not the modern upgrade will still lose thousand in resale value every year. It is all a matter of perspective and is all dead money unless older Z4's gain in price if they are looked after? My first car that actually worked was a rear-wheel-drive Vauxhall Chevette and the most fun I have ever had in 35 years of driving :) Modern cars just seem too safe until it goes wrong and I want that rear-wheel-drive feeling back in my life :) Hope you have been enjoying your Z4 :)
Love the video, I can’t take my eyes off the Z4 and would love to have one if I could persuade the wife that buying a car with high mileage would be a good move.
Hey Joel, I've got a E89 z4 , have you ever considered one ? I think they are the best bang for your buck these days for a sports car especially a convertible. The added bonus that the E89 looks the biz with the hardtop up too. Looking into a 2019 roadtrip . I thinks it's something your followers would like and good vlog opportunity. Take it easy . Dave
had a few cars, they ranged from '82 to the newest being an '01, to me, this Z4 has plenty of tech, lol. and i reckon most petrolheads on a budget will appreciate more the dynamics, rather than electronic gimmicks.
I had a new one in 07 lease ran out in 10 thinking about getting another one now, not a cheap maintained car to have, run flats not cheap at all. Then again I used mine as a daily driver and put 42k on it in 2 years haha.
I wish the car market here in South Africa was as reasonable as the UK. One can't get a good Z4 for +/- £3500. Mine cost roughly £6500 for an '08 2.0 convertible and that was one of the best deals I could find. Still, absolutely loving my bat-mobile, whatever the cost!
It all depends Joel. I ended up paying $495 for the starter in my Echo, because I was too lazy to do it myself. Which is very near 50% of the value of a 2004 Toyota Echo. However, I have to have it on the road. My Z4 I bought sight unseen from a dealer in Arizona. My #1 priority was no rust. I’m still finding sand in crevices in the car. P.S. I drove it home to Canada.
It's Joel I needed to be at the border by Friday at 4 pm as the import office closes. Took 36 hours of straight driving to make it. I slept a bit in a lay-by with a bunch of Lorrys near Amarillo then for an hour in Indiana. Made it by noon on Friday. The last 50 miles was in a snow storm with bald summer tyres. White knuckle all the way.
SLK350 r171 chassis with 6 speed manual are probably better with road noise and comfort due to the hard top and softer ride. Put a new head unit in there and you should be ok with tech. They are great sports cars too.
There's another option if you are DIY mech items like dissa valve easy to fix I did mine £50 second hand in 1 hour these cars are then certainly good value 😀
Before I bought my current 1 Series this time last year, I had a 2008 318d. It has 300,000km on it. The DPF went on it and it cost me €1,500 to replace with a used one. A new one would have been €2,800. When I traded in the car, I got about 3 grand for it. It was a bit of a bitter pill to swallow to replace one part that cost half the price of the car.
If you get a 2007 with a premium package you’ll be covered in the tech department you get a nav system that comes out of the dash Bluetooth and plenty more. If you get a car older than 2005 you have to remember a lot of the gadgets we have in cars now weren’t really around in cars back then. So stick with 2007 and up to be on the safe side.
We had an X3 BMW with that same navigation system…it sucked! Cumbersome to imput and annoying to use. Glad my Z4 came without it. Besides If you don’t know where you’re going you shouldn’t be driving. Learn to read a map!
Thanks for the insight, I'm looking to buy a 2.0 next year - will be my first sports car :) my biggest concern will be maintenance costs but I'm saving hard haha! Just wondering - why do you think the run-flats should be ditched? I'm aware they are very expensive, and that the grip isn't too good. Just wondering what other issues there are.
steering issues are a real problem with these cars, electric steering will fail on all 2004-2008 cars sometime in their life ,mine failed and cost 3000 quid to fix! complete new steering coulum needed.
Nice vid Joel. Know the route, as I'm an ex Liphook resident, now living France. And as the prices are stupid here, I'm currently considering importing a RHD UK Z4 2.5/3.0 Vs MX5 NC 2ltr sport. How do you find the lack of an LSD in the Z ??. And what are the must have options in your opinion, 6 speed box being top of the list ?
Like you did, I creently own an nb mx5 and now thinking of upgrading to a 3.0 z4. One thing I love about the mazda is its size - you can fling it in to parking spaces easy peasy. What is the size comparison like especially the longer bonnet?
Not sure if it’s how the camera was mounted but if not the camera and that knocking noise is coming from your suspension....you really need to get it sorted 😳
Joel, you mentioned in an earlier video getting upwards of 40mpg. I’ve been driving like the granniest grandma and only ever topped it at 34mpg on a tank. Is it something to do with being at sea level or the AKI of the petrol up there? Tyre pressure? I also noticed the onboard computer reads about 2 points higher than the actual tank fill results. Thanks mate. Keep up the content! You’re growing!
Hey David! If you’re driving around at a high elevation ASL then it would definitely spoil your fuel economy to an extent. What sort of elevation are you at?
Son, adding parts will not add any significant value to a regular car unless its a collectors or very special edition car.. Cars are depreciating every day so a 300 part will do nothing to the value
Hey :) looking to buy a Z4 in the next few months. Is there really a difference in the suspension between the 2,5 and 3,0 versions? I am thinking about maybe getting the 2,5 one for a more comfortable ride, however I do not feel comfortable about loosing those 0,5 litres of precious engine space. I want to daily the car :) what would you recommend? Could you help me with this decision? 😁 thanks, love your content 👌
Hey, thanks for watching Adam! I’d definitely recommend going for the 3.0l if you can! Not to sure exactly what the difference is between the suspensions, but it can’t be significant
£300 for some maintenance is hardly anything compared to what the depreciation would have been when the car was new. It might have been a better cost ratio back then but I'd rather not be the one losing thousands maybe even 10s of thousands a year on depreciation
Excellent review. I brought a new car recently and I purchased an extended warranty, not for mechanical issues, but electronic ones. Consider the cost of troubleshooting a short in an array of wires hidden under the dash that monitor everything in your vehicle. True, our Z's have electronic issues as well, but they pale in comparison. Lastly, analog electrical meters are death to BMW electronics. If needed only use digital electronic meters.
$3.5k or $4k for a Z4? high mileage or not, it's still a gooddeal. In germany, it costs between $8-10k and more. I've just checked the DISA valve you're talking about, the repair kit is only $30 or buy a new aftermarket one for $150 ot 350 as you claimed.
I bought my DISA valve directly from BMW, as they were the only people that I could get one from on a Sunday. I urgently needed to use the car. That’s why it cost what it cost
So, you couldn’t wait a day or 2 to get an aftermarket one or a repair kit? That RUclips money is a beast! Just kidding but, to me riding quality thing at the cheapest possible cost is what’s fun in all these. Soon as it’s expensive then, we’re just feeding the already over-saturated consumerism world. By the way, ciuod you give me a link to where you can get this same 3.0 for 3.5k dollars or pounds. I simply don’t believe it. This car goes for at least 10k euros in Germany, and that’s an high mileage one and to make matters worse, a 2.5.
I'm planning on getting a z4 probably a 6 cylinder engine because straight 6 engines are quite solid. I wanted 2.0 litre to save on fuel but just heard that the 2.0 litre is a 4 pot. Which straight 6 with less fuel consumption can you recommend?
Go for it, and definitely play around with the insurance quotes as well. When I bought mine, I ended up getting the 3.0 because the insurance was cheaper on a 3.0 than a 2.5 or 2.2!
It would update the look but it WILL blind other drivers like no tomorrow, even if it has projectors-the headlamps were designed around a halogen h7 filament, so no other “kits” would work correctly. HID kits nor LED bulbs, no matter what the aftermarket manufacturer says it does. Sure, they’d look bright looking at the car but behind the wheel you’d lose too much night vision due to tons of foreground light making it SEEM brighter but in reality you can see LESS. Sorry, I’m a big headlamp geek and I always advise against installing aftermarket HID/Xenon kits and LED bulbs since the glare willl suck for oncoming drivers. :) Stick to OEM quality bulbs like Osram/Philips or update to performance bulbs like Philips Xtremevision or Osram Nightbreakers. You won’t get that blue look in the headlights but you’ll see very nicely with an even sharper beam pattern. ;)
Hey no prob! Also, since everyone seems to have Xenons and LEDs these days, in a funny way-having halogen headlights makes you stand out and it looks cool 😂
I'm looking at an 04 2.5 at the moment. Would love a 3.0 version but they appear to be more expensive 😞 I'm quite a big guy 6" 2 130kg what's the seats like and general space on the inside? Need to make sure I can actually fit in one 😂🙈
Azzy. I am about the same size as you. You're going to have to find the right seating position, as the dash can be a bit limiting for my knees, but if i sit in the right position its perfect. I've had 2 Miatas and its WAY bigger than them for sure.
New fan and subscriber here! ive never purchased a bmw, and I just checked out some bmw convertibles online, for a similar price range, with slightly more kms, theres a bmw 6 series, what are your thoughts on getting the slightly older bmw e64 series cabrio v bmw z4s? Maybe a potential video in the future! CHEERS!
changw bruh GAS MILEAGE. But if thats not a problem then consider the crazy high costs of maintaining a 6 series, never buy a what used to be a luxury car in the past
@@mrlebanon6055 Thanks for your advice. What are your thoughts on naturally aspirated engines in the e85 era vs the spending a bit more for the newer bmws with the turbo? Will the older naturally aspirated e85s have less headaches v the newer turbo engines down the track? I was thinking of a bmw e89 2016, but i read on reddit that turbo may not have the same longevity v naturally aspirated.
changw ofcouse turbos are gonna need to be replaced at some point after a few years and it should cost alot, but I’ll be honest, I’m not that knowledgeable in what you’re asking to have the right to answer it, but if I wanna give you an advice, ask the bmw owners forums. Probably your best bet. And goodluck bruh Bmws are fun af, whichever choice u make, just make sure it wouldn’t drain your wallet.
Hi don't get me wrong I do like your your RUclips channel but you can be a little bit on the arrogant side when you are talking about an old person you said he had the right away now that was his choice I have to say you said about old people shouldn't be driving because they're not doing what I think you should look at your own kind of driving because you have not look in your left hand side door mirror you have not looked in your right hand side door mirror and you have not looked in your rear mirror since you are doing your videos you do more turning your head on the left-hand side talking to the camera I think you need to think what you say about old people and then comment about your own driving
That’s such a basic comment, there’s way more to it then that! I think they all have there own strong points, and I agree that you should definitely consider them all before making a decision. Personally disagree that the S2000 and MX-5 or better choices, based on the fact that the Z4 is my only car.
Thanks buddy! With that budget, you could easily get a used E89 35is - they’re super fast, super comfy and would make a much better option for you if you’re planning on using the car daily
I have a 2006 2.5 si the steering problems are very expensive to fix and its dangerous to drive. I would not buy another one. Iv owned a porsche boxter and audi tt both are better cars
I’d love to try both of those cars. I’ve had the sticky steering issue with the Z4 too, but it’s only ever an issue on a super hot day (which is rare) so I’ve just cracked on with it
This BMW Z4 E85 looks amazing, and at least here in Spain isn't very expenssive... But the maintenance is other thing very different, besides they're drawnings (or at least I been heard about it... You should try buying a Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 Kompressor
I’m currently running a mk2 mx5 but looking into a Z4. Think I need to get myself behind the wheel of one first. Main,y wanting a change because of rust. Is rust an issue in this car? It’d be a third car as I have a van and a mondeo as my work/daily. I work on my own cars but can’t keep up with the mx5 tinworm!
I’ve never had any issues with rust personally, I previously had an NB MX-5 too and the rust was an issue. All in all, the build quality on the Z4 is a huge step up from the MX-5
I would never daily a Z4. Why not buy a cheap honda for those days you dont want to add wear and tear to the Z4? Literally, buy a used Civic for less than $1k that will do the job.
@@itsjoel Yea, no worries. It's the same in the US and varies state by state. Quick question on your clutch, have you had to replace it and if so at what mileage? I'm looking at buying an 07' with 83k miles. When I owned my 350z, the clutch needed to be replaced around 98k.
I do think it’s a life style choice having a Z4 I’m 54 kids gone live on my own so I’m at the stage where I need a bit of fun and a car that puts a big fat smile on my face every time I drive it, or get one before kids come along if you can afford running cost ect you can get a decent one for really not a lot of money and they are fun to drive 🤩🤩🤩👍 hope your ok Joel great vid mate 👍
Absolutely love Z4’s, I’ve been lucky to have 3 over the years (2.2auto, 2.2 manual and 3.0 manual) great cars to buy total bargain which in my opinion makes it ok when it comes to running costs. As for the tech, if you enjoy driving the tech doesn’t matter at all, personally I prefer simple tech on a car. Great vids Joel 👍
P J Love mine and how simple it is but the only thing I wish it had is a backup camera. Wife’s Merc has one it’s made me lazy and awful at backing up 😂
Is the 3.0 more fun that the 2.2? (I dont care about the speed, just which is most fun!)
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Yes! I have had my Z4 ew since 2005! No regrets ,yes it’s a rougher ride but that’s the fun ! @@jackp-j1932
Just recently purchased my 06 Z4 3.0si, and it was in large part due to your videos like this one. Thanks for all the genuine, in-depth content Joel! Keep it up!
Thanks Jacob - I hope you’re enjoying your new car!
The parts are a moot point. The Z4's parts are not any more expensive than other BMWs and the Z4 is very reliable since it shares most parts with the E46 3 series - for example the DISA valve. Parts are like fuel, you have to put them in regardless of how long you keep your car. You only consider the cost of the parts to the value of the car if you intend to replace it in the near future.
The run-flats are terrible so they need to be changed. The small steering and busy tires and suspension mean it is more tiring to commute in. The ground clearance is very low so you'll be scraping stuff more often. The cabin is small so it will quickly get stuffy, especially with two bodies, if the circulation is not turned up. And yes, the equivalent 3-series got way more gadgets such as folding mirrors on reverse.
Hope you develop more patience with age. That old man will one day be you.
@stubbk3 Not big deals if you are on top of your maintenance. If you think you are going to find more reliable BMWs out there, good luck! The newer N52 engine is rock solid.
Maintenance has to be put in perspective, either buy new at 40grand or buy old at 5grand and spend 10grand in maintenence...youre still ahead buying used.
I was originally looking at Audi TT mk2 videos when your video popped up in my suggestions box. I’m so glad I went with the Z4! I love how low you sit in it but I would agree that the ride is very stiff. I only have the 2.5 engine and I still find it stiff. I test drove a 2.0 and they are somewhat softer but I wanted an inline 6 engine as opposed to the 4 pot 2.0l so I wasn’t bothered about the compromised ride quality. If anyone is thinking of getting a Z4 I would say to Factor in the cost of replacing the run flat tyres. A lot of people comment on how the run flats tramline and follow any imperfections in the road and that is so true!
Glad you’re enjoying your Z4. Great point about the runflats, I’d recommend any buyer factors that cost in if it hasn’t been done already 👍🏻
@@itsjoel Owning an E92 325i myself (that also comes standard with run flats) I would recommend; don't fit runflats at all, ever. Just take an AA subscription or something. Wait half an hour for them to come and help you in the unlikely event of a flat tyre.
For the once every 5 to 10 years (on average, I guess) that you encounter a flat, I would gladly wait a bit. Deffo not worth enduring the behaviour of the stiff runflats all the time. I bought my car a few months ago and I couldn't wait until I was able to remove the runflats. Even now on winter tyres the car drives a whole lot better. And safer, I dare to say. In the odd occasion someone else drives my car, you always got to warn them to keep both hands on the wheel in corners and stuff, because potholes and stuff will cause it to bite you unexpectedly.
Don't get me started about the premiums you must pay to have the 'pleasure' of run flat tyres on your car. Trust me; binning them is the cheapest and best mod you can do to any BMW.
- Lars from the Netherlands
@Literally Tom You sould have went with the TT 😂
@@quattrorsq8558 I disagree, having gone for the TT myself. Now i'm looking at changing it for a Z4..
But it depends on what you're looking for I think. The TT isn't a bad car at all, it's just not a drivers car.
Thanks for your insight Das Stig
Just grabbed a 2003 2.5i last year with 41k miles on it and love it BUT I just put in $2500 into oil gaskets drying out in 3 places, new battery, replacement mirror (flew off). So yeah its not cheap to own this car but man does it draw attention to it! Fun to drive for sure!
Bought a 2.5 two months ago after watching your videos. Still think e85 is pretty cool and less technology is OK cause im not really good at it.
Thanks joel
Thanks Kurt for watching the videos, I’m glad you’re enjoying your Z4!
I have a '08 Z4M coupe and my dad has an '08 cayman, we both paid pretty much the same amount for them (mine was £500 more) and for what he got in comparison to what i got is shocking really. I have 6 gears he only has 5, his is running with roughly 240 BHP, im pushing 350 and the interior is so incredibly cheap feeling its not what i imagined from a porsche. When looking for a 2 seat, affordable sports car the only real option in my mind is the Z4 and Z4M.
Ross Miller I have driven many, many crazy cars. My cousin boguht z4m with kw v3 suspension. After I drove it I consider that is the best car in the world (drivingwise).
Something to consider, z4m has a csl rack and brakes, add some intake and exhaust mods and there you have it. CSL :)
When I was looking at cars in early Nov, my old man was trying to push me in the direction of a Boxster or Cayman, as he was not a fan of the Z4. He generally does not like the Bangle designed cars, but once I told him there was an M version of the E85/86 with the S54 like his E46 M3 cab had, he suddenly became more supportive of my choice of the Z4M. He's now become just as smitten with the car as I have and has even complimented it's styling cues, but is adamant that he will never like how the front end looks with the headlight design.
We've both been amazed at just how well together my E85 M feels. Bar the typical rattles from the roofs frame, it's not got any annoying noises, rattles or squeeks. I have always loved the E86, as an old friend of mine got a brand new E86 3.0 and it was this that made me lust for the E85 and E86. To me, the E86 M, really reminds me of what a Rocket Bunny body kit looks like. The boot lid and spoiler just look amazing and the E85/86 from the rear quarter view is design perfection.
The only negative I have to say about my own E85 M (which I think they all have) is it's tricky to get it to go into 2nd when it's still cold, but once it's all up to operating temp, it suddenly becomes a nice smooth shift. From 2008 until I stopped driving in 2016 for two years, I only averaged 3000 miles a year, yet since late Nov, I have managed to do 1000 miles already!
A few of my non petrolhead buddies thought they were being funny when they said I had a woman's/hair dressers car, when I uploaded some pics I had taken of my E85 M. I pointed out that a car weighing about 1400KG's with 343BHP and six speed manual, was the furthest thing you could get from being a car like an SLK. Oddly enough, the mk1, MX-5 (Eunos) was/is also called the same thing, yet they are some of the best handling cars you could get and allows the driver to really push the car, as it's so well balanced. When I saw on a Z4 forum, a post where they called the E85 M a more "grown up" version of the MX-5, I had to agree. I use to own a JDM MK1 MX-5 V-Special and my E85 M really reminds me of just how dialed in that car use to be.
I really can see me not wanting to ever get rid of this car and it's possibly the first car I've owned that my dad is constantly asking me if he could take it out for a bit of a hoon, or how he finds some odd reason he quickly needs to borrow my car, like it needs putting away in the garage, but he takes a 40 mile detour to do so lol
You buy the base Cayman only if you want the looks and not the performance. If it were the Cayman S you'd be singing a different tune.
Yea shocking really, the z4 is an old bmw and the cayman is a good looking porsche.. I would take the cayman for 3x of what a z4 costs
@@nman2563 would u get the Cayman S or OG M2? thanks
Tyre pressure warning system will work on any tyres :) All it does is warns you if any wheel's average rotational speed increases by a certain amount. This indicates that the rolling circumference has reduced, which will generally be because the tyre pressure has dropped.
I have a daily 2.5 Z4 2005 and a Volvo XC70 2002 foor the family weekend trips.
The Volvo is very very very much mor expensive in maintenance and fuel.
I use the Z4 10000km and the Volvo (incl vacations) 4000km a year.
Hi there, like the video's, very helpful, and love your enthusiasm for this car. I am sold on it.
Awesome! Thanks for the kind feedback :)
Been a fan of your channel for a while now. I'm considering getting a Z4 so this was a great guide. Cheers man!
Thanks for watching Daniel! You should go for it! Let me know if you have any other questions
It's Joel definitely was a big part of why I bought by Z4 2 weeks ago. I'm loving it.
Excellent to hear Austin thank you
And Joel was a big help for me also when I bought mine a month ago!
With the non Z4M's, the runflats can really effect the ride and road noise. Going over to a normal tyre like the M, will improve things all round.
BMW's luckily have a strong specialist market, so you don't need to lose quality by not going to the dealers. My family have had BMW's since the 90's and when I owned an E30 Alpina, trying to get work done by a dealer was a royal pain for me in Oxford.
Absolutely right!
Have the coupe version with most of the options ticked and love it... wouldn't sell it ever 😁
Solid bit of road rage at 6:40 hahaha!! Another quality video mate, hopefully you don't get as much hate as I did!
How hard are roundabouts to understand tho? Haha. Thanks 😂
I am Joel's long-lost brother....the roundabout issue proves it. Please people, learn how to drive.
Love the video mate, and the way you break it all down! I'm thinking of getting a Z4 as a weekend / holiday / non commuting car, and these videos are helpful in the decision making! Hope yours is still going strong
Thanks for watching, I’m glad you find the videos helpful, they’re great cars. Will be an update video on my Z4 coming soon!
I started with a roadster and now have the Coupe. Although parts are expensive I would 100% buy another E85/E86. They are just awesome 👍
Would definitely like to try a coupe at some point!
Liked you critical assessment of to buy or not to buy. I have 2005 Z4 and drive it every day. Have had the roof motor die and replaced it. Also there are very few after market parts and it has cost me about half what I have paid for the car.
Thank you for watching Peter
As a new owner of a 3L coupe, im quite enjoyign this channel and your latest ring videos.
I’m glad! Good to have you here
@@itsjoel Hear hear! More ring videos!
About to buy my first Z4 tomorrow 😅 You’re really good to watch, eye articulate and informative, just like Clarkson. Cheers!
I own 2003 3.0i SMG, there are many alternates in terms of parts. The parts catalogue is online, maintenance instructions are online, non oem disa valve is around 60 usd on AliExpress. There are also repair kits for the disa valve, which are around 15 usd. For tyres, I have recently switched to non-runflats, much much better. The remarks on my side would be check if the water drains are clear, check if wheel arches and headlight covers and their seals are intact, do a waterproofness test with top up. Check carpets if they are wet. Check coolant level. Check the leaks under body. (SMG hydraulics may have leaks, not expensive to repair again). I have also wired a bluetooth receiver to the AUX on the original BMW business radio, enjoying the original sound system which is very satisfying. I have many small replacements on the car and up to now it is pretty much reliable.
Thank you so much for all the tips mate. This is really helpful for me, and other viewers!
Hello I purchased a Z4 2,5i 192hp .. and would also like to hear music over bluetooth. Can you explain me what exactly you did to hear music over bluetooth? Maybe you could send a link of the gear you bought?
Greets
If you can do repairs and maintenance yourself an E85 is unbelievable cheap. Good quality non OEM Parts are also cheap. There are only a few parts, like the DISA valve which are expensive.
Yeah, I was just unlucky! Haha
Agreed. In the first 5 months of owning mine I replaced the rear springs, front wishbone bushes, front and rear discs and pads amongst other things and all of those listed parts cost me under £250 for parts of OEM+ quality. I don't get any kind of trade discounts either. It's been a bargain to maintain so far!
What does DISA stand for?
@@surgeknight5725 it's taken from the German name for the variable inlet our engines have. It's quite a noticeable change in engine tone when it switches open.
@@jamesf8864 alright
😆nice informative video and insights Joel, as I'm one of those old people who is also an advanced driver it made me smile and laugh. I've had convertible sports cars the only issues I have are the getting in and out, It's a younger persons car, but a lot of fun if you can manage the ride and lack of comfort. Thank you Joel, bice video.
I am about to buy a Z4 about the same model engine size and age up to 6k 2021, but I think of it this way, I have a 16 Reg Peugeot (PUG) 208 1.2l to sell worth about 6K (8k when I brought it 1 year old) and to be honest it is a fantastic little car and performs well in any conditions and can overtake with plenty of power when needed. I can upgrade to a newer version or similar car and spend a few thousand more or I can have more fun for less money and spend what I save on refurbishment of the Z4 :) I am an old person ( Don't slag off old people who are driving, they are still alive, unlike younger drivers embedded into trees ;) Lol). Joking aside the savings over purchasing a newer car can keep an older more fun car on the road if you plan to keep it or even if you do not the modern upgrade will still lose thousand in resale value every year. It is all a matter of perspective and is all dead money unless older Z4's gain in price if they are looked after? My first car that actually worked was a rear-wheel-drive Vauxhall Chevette and the most fun I have ever had in 35 years of driving :) Modern cars just seem too safe until it goes wrong and I want that rear-wheel-drive feeling back in my life :) Hope you have been enjoying your Z4 :)
Love the video, I can’t take my eyes off the Z4 and would love to have one if I could persuade the wife that buying a car with high mileage would be a good move.
Hey Joel, I've got a E89 z4 , have you ever considered one ? I think they are the best bang for your buck these days for a sports car especially a convertible. The added bonus that the E89 looks the biz with the hardtop up too. Looking into a 2019 roadtrip . I thinks it's something your followers would like and good vlog opportunity. Take it easy .
Dave
Funny you mention it. Should be doing a roadtrip in an E89 Z4 in 2019! Stay tuned
had a few cars, they ranged from '82 to the newest being an '01, to me, this Z4 has plenty of tech, lol. and i reckon most petrolheads on a budget will appreciate more the dynamics, rather than electronic gimmicks.
I'm stationed in the UK and a guy who is also an American from another base is selling his Z4.. thinking of getting it.
That’s awesome, should go for it
I had a new one in 07 lease ran out in 10 thinking about getting another one now, not a cheap maintained car to have, run flats not cheap at all. Then again I used mine as a daily driver and put 42k on it in 2 years haha.
I wish the car market here in South Africa was as reasonable as the UK. One can't get a good Z4 for +/- £3500. Mine cost roughly £6500 for an '08 2.0 convertible and that was one of the best deals I could find. Still, absolutely loving my bat-mobile, whatever the cost!
It’s crazy how the markets differ in different countries! I’m glad you’re enjoying it :)
Same here from South Africa. 2.5l. price is so high here
South Africa too, looking at getting a Z4 within the next 2 years.
You find a private dealer? Most I've seen on Cars.co. za have been upwards of 100K?
It all depends Joel. I ended up paying $495 for the starter in my Echo, because I was too lazy to do it myself. Which is very near 50% of the value of a 2004 Toyota Echo. However, I have to have it on the road. My Z4 I bought sight unseen from a dealer in Arizona. My #1 priority was no rust. I’m still finding sand in crevices in the car. P.S. I drove it home to Canada.
That must have been quite the roadtrip when you drove it home!
It's Joel I needed to be at the border by Friday at 4 pm as the import office closes. Took 36 hours of straight driving to make it. I slept a bit in a lay-by with a bunch of Lorrys near Amarillo then for an hour in Indiana. Made it by noon on Friday. The last 50 miles was in a snow storm with bald summer tyres. White knuckle all the way.
That’s awesome! Glad you made it.
SLK350 r171 chassis with 6 speed manual are probably better with road noise and comfort due to the hard top and softer ride. Put a new head unit in there and you should be ok with tech. They are great sports cars too.
There's another option if you are DIY mech items like dissa valve easy to fix I did mine £50 second hand in 1 hour these cars are then certainly good value 😀
i own a 3.0 z3 awesome car very cheap in parts and so easy to work on ! to me its the better example!
Where are you? America o Europe?
Before I bought my current 1 Series this time last year, I had a 2008 318d. It has 300,000km on it. The DPF went on it and it cost me €1,500 to replace with a used one. A new one would have been €2,800. When I traded in the car, I got about 3 grand for it. It was a bit of a bitter pill to swallow to replace one part that cost half the price of the car.
Ahh man that sucks
awesome, these videos are pretty helpful as im looking to buy a Z4.
Glad you’re finding the videos helpful buddy
@@itsjoel well, I decided on a 2005 Z4 in Maldives blue.
jason craft fantastic! I think you’re going to love it
If you get a 2007 with a premium package you’ll be covered in the tech department you get a nav system that comes out of the dash Bluetooth and plenty more. If you get a car older than 2005 you have to remember a lot of the gadgets we have in cars now weren’t really around in cars back then. So stick with 2007 and up to be on the safe side.
We had an X3 BMW with that same navigation system…it sucked! Cumbersome to imput and annoying to use. Glad my Z4 came without it. Besides If you don’t know where you’re going you shouldn’t be driving.
Learn to read a map!
Thanks for the insight, I'm looking to buy a 2.0 next year - will be my first sports car :) my biggest concern will be maintenance costs but I'm saving hard haha! Just wondering - why do you think the run-flats should be ditched? I'm aware they are very expensive, and that the grip isn't too good. Just wondering what other issues there are.
Driving a Z4 and enjoying it is a lifestyle choice……
I’ve had brand new Jags and company cars…….nothing is as much fun as the Z4……low tech is good🤗
I have an 03 3.0 6 speed .......love that car.Love the noise love the power..Just me.
Love my BMER
Mine. ruclips.net/video/TGJAdokdsmM/видео.html
Love that car.
Thinking about getting this beauty. I was looking at 2004-2006 models. What would you say is an acceptable mileage for a car like this?
steering issues are a real problem with these cars, electric steering will fail on all 2004-2008 cars sometime in their life ,mine failed and cost 3000 quid to fix! complete new steering coulum needed.
Nice vid Joel. Know the route, as I'm an ex Liphook resident, now living France. And as the prices are stupid here, I'm currently considering importing a RHD UK Z4 2.5/3.0 Vs MX5 NC 2ltr sport. How do you find the lack of an LSD in the Z ??. And what are the must have options in your opinion, 6 speed box being top of the list ?
Like you did, I creently own an nb mx5 and now thinking of upgrading to a 3.0 z4. One thing I love about the mazda is its size - you can fling it in to parking spaces easy peasy. What is the size comparison like especially the longer bonnet?
Not sure if it’s how the camera was mounted but if not the camera and that knocking noise is coming from your suspension....you really need to get it sorted 😳
Yeah mate, that was my suspension ... it’s next on my list to get fixed. My bank balance has been emptied by this car the past few months 😢
Joel, you mentioned in an earlier video getting upwards of 40mpg. I’ve been driving like the granniest grandma and only ever topped it at 34mpg on a tank. Is it something to do with being at sea level or the AKI of the petrol up there? Tyre pressure? I also noticed the onboard computer reads about 2 points higher than the actual tank fill results. Thanks mate. Keep up the content! You’re growing!
Hey David! If you’re driving around at a high elevation ASL then it would definitely spoil your fuel economy to an extent. What sort of elevation are you at?
It's Joel a whole mile. I’ll compare next time I get the car to California.
Interesting, 4,500ft or so above sea level would definitely reduce fuel efficiency!
i wonder where he got a z4 for 3 grand. they dont sell under 10 in austria
Another one is viewing angles there's so many places to pull out in Halsemere you can't see out the left well
Yes true!
E85 it’s sample car you can fixed on driveway.
1:02 how did you manage to fit an object in that compartment? I still struggle
Haha! It’s my wallet, just about slides in when I have no money in it.. which is pretty much all the time.... haha!
Instantly subscribed after he said bloohhdy hellll
Haha
Son, adding parts will not add any significant value to a regular car unless its a collectors or very special edition car.. Cars are depreciating every day so a 300 part will do nothing to the value
The best z4 with year is 2003-2008?? Please i want buy one
Hey :) looking to buy a Z4 in the next few months. Is there really a difference in the suspension between the 2,5 and 3,0 versions? I am thinking about maybe getting the 2,5 one for a more comfortable ride, however I do not feel comfortable about loosing those 0,5 litres of precious engine space. I want to daily the car :) what would you recommend? Could you help me with this decision? 😁 thanks, love your content 👌
Hey, thanks for watching Adam! I’d definitely recommend going for the 3.0l if you can! Not to sure exactly what the difference is between the suspensions, but it can’t be significant
Thanks for an advice 😁
My pleasure buddy!
ah yes something to aspire to i'm in in high school and i'm trying to save up to buy one of these roadsters
They’re such good value for what they are!
£300 for some maintenance is hardly anything compared to what the depreciation would have been when the car was new. It might have been a better cost ratio back then but I'd rather not be the one losing thousands maybe even 10s of thousands a year on depreciation
Gorgeous car! Love the channel!
Is your t-shirt on the wrong way though? 🤔
how noisy it is inside comparing to saloon BMW?
When are we going to see you Top Gear...the show definitely needs someone like you...👍
Haha appreciate that! Would be a dream job!
Excellent review. I brought a new car recently and I purchased an extended warranty, not for mechanical issues, but electronic ones. Consider the cost of troubleshooting a short in an array of wires hidden under the dash that monitor everything in your vehicle. True, our Z's have electronic issues as well, but they pale in comparison. Lastly, analog electrical meters are death to BMW electronics. If needed only use digital electronic meters.
Thank you mate!
how much money do i need per month to maintain a z4 e85 20i ?
$3.5k or $4k for a Z4? high mileage or not, it's still a gooddeal. In germany, it costs between $8-10k and more.
I've just checked the DISA valve you're talking about, the repair kit is only $30 or buy a new aftermarket one for $150 ot 350 as you claimed.
I bought my DISA valve directly from BMW, as they were the only people that I could get one from on a Sunday. I urgently needed to use the car. That’s why it cost what it cost
So, you couldn’t wait a day or 2 to get an aftermarket one or a repair kit? That RUclips money is a beast! Just kidding but, to me riding quality thing at the cheapest possible cost is what’s fun in all these. Soon as it’s expensive then, we’re just feeding the already over-saturated consumerism world.
By the way, ciuod you give me a link to where you can get this same 3.0 for 3.5k dollars or pounds. I simply don’t believe it. This car goes for at least 10k euros in Germany, and that’s an high mileage one and to make matters worse, a 2.5.
kay poly it’s actually selling for 1,500$ used in the middle east lol, these cars are nightmares for their old owners
You by new and you loose mega money straight away.if you buy older in good nick and fork out now and again it's still good value
I'm planning on getting a z4 probably a 6 cylinder engine because straight 6 engines are quite solid. I wanted 2.0 litre to save on fuel but just heard that the 2.0 litre is a 4 pot. Which straight 6 with less fuel consumption can you recommend?
Honestly, my dad has the 2.5 and I have the 3 - but I get better fuel consumption. There is also the 2.2 which is 6 cylinders
@@itsjoel thanx mate, I'll probably go for the 2.2
where is comprasion with slk r171? :)
Would love to film this video, just need to find someone who will lend me their SLK!
The headlights in the Z4 really are a joke.
Luv and Peace.
I want to ditch my e46 3 Series and get a Z4
Which engine have you got? Obviously the E46 share engines with the E85 Z4s - you’ll just lose two seats and gain a bit of performance!
@@itsjoel it's only a 2.2 but I think the suspension is shot,
If you went for the 3.0 Z4 - you’d love it!
@@itsjoel think I'm gonna take the plunge either a 2.5 or a 3.0 insurance is the limiting factor, but by the summer I should have one
Go for it, and definitely play around with the insurance quotes as well. When I bought mine, I ended up getting the 3.0 because the insurance was cheaper on a 3.0 than a 2.5 or 2.2!
Good video dude. Just a suggestion try led bulbs will update the headlights no end. And possible collaboration with the zed shed a z4 specialist.
Thanks Jacob, Maybe I’ll try LEDs next - aren’t they crazy expensive though?
It would update the look but it WILL blind other drivers like no tomorrow, even if it has projectors-the headlamps were designed around a halogen h7 filament, so no other “kits” would work correctly. HID kits nor LED bulbs, no matter what the aftermarket manufacturer says it does. Sure, they’d look bright looking at the car but behind the wheel you’d lose too much night vision due to tons of foreground light making it SEEM brighter but in reality you can see LESS.
Sorry, I’m a big headlamp geek and I always advise against installing aftermarket HID/Xenon kits and LED bulbs since the glare willl suck for oncoming drivers. :) Stick to OEM quality bulbs like Osram/Philips or update to performance bulbs like Philips Xtremevision or Osram Nightbreakers. You won’t get that blue look in the headlights but you’ll see very nicely with an even sharper beam pattern. ;)
Thanks for the advice buddy
Hey no prob! Also, since everyone seems to have Xenons and LEDs these days, in a funny way-having halogen headlights makes you stand out and it looks cool 😂
True, although it would be nice to be able to see where I’m going sometimes haha 😂
I'm looking at an 04 2.5 at the moment.
Would love a 3.0 version but they appear to be more expensive 😞
I'm quite a big guy 6" 2 130kg what's the seats like and general space on the inside? Need to make sure I can actually fit in one 😂🙈
Best to just try one for yourself, but I think you should be ok! Any taller you might struggle, unless the roofs down!
I’m 6”4 and 100kg. I’ve got a z4m roadster. I fit very snugly into it. The couples tend to have a little more head room than the roadsters.
Azzy. I am about the same size as you. You're going to have to find the right seating position, as the dash can be a bit limiting for my knees, but if i sit in the right position its perfect. I've had 2 Miatas and its WAY bigger than them for sure.
New fan and subscriber here! ive never purchased a bmw, and I just checked out some bmw convertibles online, for a similar price range, with slightly more kms, theres a bmw 6 series, what are your thoughts on getting the slightly older bmw e64 series cabrio v bmw z4s? Maybe a potential video in the future! CHEERS!
changw bruh GAS MILEAGE. But if thats not a problem then consider the crazy high costs of maintaining a 6 series, never buy a what used to be a luxury car in the past
changw look into e92 and e93, much better costs overall
@@mrlebanon6055 Thanks for your advice. What are your thoughts on naturally aspirated engines in the e85 era vs the spending a bit more for the newer bmws with the turbo? Will the older naturally aspirated e85s have less headaches v the newer turbo engines down the track? I was thinking of a bmw e89 2016, but i read on reddit that turbo may not have the same longevity v naturally aspirated.
changw ofcouse turbos are gonna need to be replaced at some point after a few years and it should cost alot, but I’ll be honest, I’m not that knowledgeable in what you’re asking to have the right to answer it, but if I wanna give you an advice, ask the bmw owners forums. Probably your best bet. And goodluck bruh Bmws are fun af, whichever choice u make, just make sure it wouldn’t drain your wallet.
@@mrlebanon6055 THANK YOU:)
Hi don't get me wrong I do like your your RUclips channel but you can be a little bit on the arrogant side when you are talking about an old person you said he had the right away now that was his choice I have to say you said about old people shouldn't be driving because they're not doing what I think you should look at your own kind of driving because you have not look in your left hand side door mirror you have not looked in your right hand side door mirror and you have not looked in your rear mirror since you are doing your videos you do more turning your head on the left-hand side talking to the camera I think you need to think what you say about old people and then comment about your own driving
Three things to consider before buying a Z4: MX-5; S2000; Boxster/Cayman. All are better choices.
That’s such a basic comment, there’s way more to it then that! I think they all have there own strong points, and I agree that you should definitely consider them all before making a decision. Personally disagree that the S2000 and MX-5 or better choices, based on the fact that the Z4 is my only car.
Mx5 is for dwarfs.... #6ft4in
Do you think it s bad buying an 04-07 z4 in 2018?
Well obviously I’ll say no to that, as that’s what I’ve done
Great stuff. Just found your channel. Considering a Z3 initially but your feedback on the Z4 may sway me.
Thanks Craig! Both cars are great, the Z4 offers a much more refined experience however
Any car that you don’t repair yourself will eat you alive with repair costs if you send it out.
I cant want to get me Z4M 03-09
nice vido man, im in the market for a bmw z4. do you recommend e89 or e85 my budget is 30,000 us dollars.
Thanks buddy! With that budget, you could easily get a used E89 35is - they’re super fast, super comfy and would make a much better option for you if you’re planning on using the car daily
It's Joel yea im looking to daily drive the car. How do the z4's perform in the snow with snow tires?
Not sure, I’ve driven mine in the snow on normal tyres and it was ok I guess haha
@@itsjoel Great to hear, this has been super helpful Joel. Thank you so much.
No worries man, anytime
Still no compration video with slk bro?
I’m trying to get hold of an SLK!
I have z4 e85 but only with 2.0 150hp :(
Get yourself a 3.0 my lad!
Im 14 and i consider buying it tomorrow
I have a 2006 2.5 si the steering problems are very expensive to fix and its dangerous to drive. I would not buy another one. Iv owned a porsche boxter and audi tt both are better cars
I’d love to try both of those cars. I’ve had the sticky steering issue with the Z4 too, but it’s only ever an issue on a super hot day (which is rare) so I’ve just cracked on with it
Excellent
Make sure the drain plugs are cleaned! You don't want your soft top mechanism breaking on you because the owner never cleaned it.
Good shout
I checked my plugs and nothing is coming out?!
Move the roof motor to the boot - £150 well spent.
@@jack4553 Did you pull out the plastic plug
@@timbushby I have this planned next year spring
This BMW Z4 E85 looks amazing, and at least here in Spain isn't very expenssive... But the maintenance is other thing very different, besides they're drawnings (or at least I been heard about it... You should try buying a Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 Kompressor
I’m currently running a mk2 mx5 but looking into a Z4. Think I need to get myself behind the wheel of one first. Main,y wanting a change because of rust. Is rust an issue in this car? It’d be a third car as I have a van and a mondeo as my work/daily. I work on my own cars but can’t keep up with the mx5 tinworm!
I’ve never had any issues with rust personally, I previously had an NB MX-5 too and the rust was an issue. All in all, the build quality on the Z4 is a huge step up from the MX-5
Great insight, you made me laugh when you went through the tunnel.
Thanks for watching Michael. Always puts a smile on my face going through the tunnel in the Z4!
3000? Man where I'm at a 2006 hardtop are 13,000 USD
Hard tops are expensive in the uk too
Don’t fill it up to the brim mate, the tank will have 10% of the value of the car ;) But who cares, cheap thrills and cool looks
😂😂👍🏻 brilliant
Throughout all these videos I got the impression that it was Obtainable in cost and maintenance...not Exactly 👀
It definitely is affordable! I’ve barely had to fork out for any repairs over the last 3 years
Was looking for a 2004 "Vette , now I have more homework to do ..... nice post - exploring my options ...WHO don't love a low mile , 1 owner BMW ?
First thing to consider: get a Coupé.
I would never daily a Z4. Why not buy a cheap honda for those days you dont want to add wear and tear to the Z4? Literally, buy a used Civic for less than $1k that will do the job.
Ryan Solomon understand your point, but in the UK have to tax, insure and MOT that car plus I have no space to store a second currently
@@itsjoel Yea, no worries. It's the same in the US and varies state by state. Quick question on your clutch, have you had to replace it and if so at what mileage? I'm looking at buying an 07' with 83k miles. When I owned my 350z, the clutch needed to be replaced around 98k.
I haven’t replaced the clutch myself, car is now on 152k and bought it on 100k. I fear it’s on the way out, although not slipping
Less things to go wrong
Complains about maintenance costs and then giddys like a schoolgirl when he floors it through the tunnel. 🙄🤣
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@@itsjoel LEET
Lost me with the "old people should..." no longer watching you, Joel. Really...
you have told me three things about the car you have continually repeated yourself and VIRTUALLY waffled your way from start to finnish
And the title says that I’ve talked about 3 things?