Snowbird is a bit more appropriate to the Elvis/Lucy story than you covered. It is not a happy song at all. It is about someone who has been cheated on (if Elvis was emoting, might he think about Priscilla cheating on him, since it affected him so much?) and wishes for better, asking to fly away with the snowbird (thinking of Lucy who was never a problem to him?), presumably to escape the pain of a lover who betrayed him....and wondering if he should go back to that person (which he likely had to consider a time or two, before coming to some conclusion) realizing he might experience heartache again...... Some key phrases..."The one I love forever is untrue. And if I could you know that I would fly away with you....He'll only break my heart again should I decide to stay. So, little snowbird, take me with you when you go, to that land of gentle breezes where the peaceful waters flow." And, yes, she almost died in snow...So, little snowbird! How appropriate a term for her, really. But -- Elvis was good at telling women he was sending messages through songs. He said that to everybody. I believe Priscilla said in "Elvis and Me" that he would send her records from stateside that indicated his feelings to her ..... romantic Elvis. And big fibber!
Never get tired of listening to you guys< great show. Truly believe the mother lie came from crazy Prissy .She had to make up a lie because she was the one being unfaithful. Awesome video,time flies listening to you both.
Only the really gullible ever bought that nonsense. As if Elvis queried every woman brought to him, then humiliated them by sending them packing if they dared bring another life into the world. Total BS.
This info is so interesting, Elvis Presley, is and always will be the most influential and Loved entertainer in the World, I believe because he Loved God and did so much for People in his giving! Thank You So much.
Love, love, love this story and conversation between you two. I’ve seen the “are you lonesome tonight”, where he’s crying. Boy, Elvis had a lot of great songs and nobody can sing them like Elvis.
@@hawaiiusa6147 Elvis was absolutely tearing up.. Tears rolling now his famous and still handsome cheek. You must be referring to the wrong performance. It was one of his last ever when he was extremely overweight along with being an emotional wreck. Wearing a white Vegas glittery jumpsuit. I'm sure it's on You Tube somewhere. Singing Are You Lonesome Tonight.
it was soooo wonderful the conversation steering from one topic to another of course in tandem 😊👍👍 very informative clarity on a lot of things as usual Dary is very attentive & informative on a lot of topics as for me i learn when he speaks defntly much younger to u both i hang on to every word as i am an Elvis fan & from India yes i cant contribute much so i learn in the process but i thoroughly enjoy thank u Joe oh yeah ur younger son looks sweet & adorable ❤❤ i luv all ur notes ur posts the conversation tooooo good thank u 👏💟🙏🥳 truly appreciate 😊
Dary, I'm leaving this message on a couple of videos, hoping you all will read it. Get DNA on all the kids saying that Elvis is their daddy. If just one half siblings match, you have something! But hurry, you want to get DNA before they all pass. I have little understanding, but to get a male DNA, it shows more. There was a kid on The Voice from Australia, says he is Elvis' grandson and you have Elvis, Junior and, the Brando girl, etc. It would be fun!
Beloved ELVIS being in my life and my heart since 1956 (I was 9 years old) I don't have the heart to listen to all these stories anymore ,,,,,,,, , so keep it up with each other! Bye bye! TLC / God bless you all! Lucette from France /Ps : What is to be regretted , is that , we talk more about his private life than about his masterful work ;;;;;; too bad /
Pues lárguese. Aquí no se trata de cuánto tiempo eres fan o no. Y no somos nosotros los que hemos escrito libros, Prissy pantalones, la mafia de Memphis, las ex novias etc. Para defender a Elvis ❤️ tenemos que saber la verdad y para eso estamos aquí porque él no está aquí para defenderse de nada. Yo tengo 27 años y también lo amo, soy de España. Hasta luego Lucy 😅
@@Winter-bluestengo más educación que otras personas que os creéis superiores en el mundo de Elvis ❤️ sólo porque erais de la edad de Pocahontas, "fans" que os pensáis que sabéis cada paso que él daba o a quién frecuentaba sólo porque habéis leído libros de sus supuestos amigos que lo traicionarían por dinero y envidia, porque no soportaban que Elvis ❤️ fuera guapo y talentoso. Mi boca está muy bien cuidada, yo no llevo atacando a las hijas de Lisa Marie ❤️ durante casi dos años, sobre todo a Riley porque supuestamente no hace lo que vosotros queréis que haga cuando ella lo ha hecho de maravilla, cuando le hace guiños a su abuelo Elvis ❤️ cuando le hace tributo en su serie, cuando ahora está llevando su legado, cuando ha sacado el audiolibro de su madre, ha dejado las cosas malas sobre todo las malas acciones de Prissy pantalones, pero aún así no estáis conformes,. Que más tiene que hacer Riley escupír a Prissy en la cara en público para que os de gusto y veáis que no la soporta? Gritar a los cuatro vientos su amor por Elvis ❤️ para que veáis que lo quiere? Que sabéis lo que ella siente por él o no? Que sabéis si ella lo llama abuelo en privado? Dejadla en paz. No me hable usted de educación.
@@Winter-bluesmi boca está muy bien cuidada, mejor que los mayores que dais miedo. Me habla usted a mí de educación? No se ha fijado en OTRAS personas como usted que lleváis atacando a Riley durante Casi dos años por ejemplo.
I believe this is where the John Wayne theory comes into play...if Lucy told John Wayne she had a daughter with Elvis..which would be a little odd that she would tell John Wayne but not Elvis...but I believe that is the theory anyways.
@@KatMandew0 Not odd at all. Such a historic secret would be hard to keep for so long. Lucy had to tell someone. She obviously thought Wayne, being a mega star himself, would understand.
@@DaryMatera Obviously is far too strong a word and assumption..especially when you're only speculating and there is no evidence that she even met John Wayne. Knowing that he stayed in a motel/hotel outside of town isn't proof. I know where a number of big celebrities stay because a close friend and ex-teammate of one of my best friends' rents them his place in Malibu. Bono, Dicaprio etc..Doesn't mean I went there and met them.
In the book, I believe that he wanted to, but she was married with two children, and I guess if you can take a look at it from a woman’s perspective she probably had a lot of shame. In fact I think she mentioned that.
You know, even June Juanico's husband understood. After all those years. She stated, after learning of his death, she was crying and her husband came over, embraced her and just let her cry and grieve. Sweet and touching. ❤
Long one but made it to the end . Very enjoyable. In my opinion, Elvis didn’t tell Priscilla he couldn’t be intimate with a woman after she became a mother. I think that was a way of Priscilla’s way of exonerating herself and blaming Elvis. She knew this would make him seem weird. He didn’t want her because she had been with another man.
@@edie1011ésa es una ridícula teoría inventada por la mente enferma por Prissy pantalones, ella se lo invento, porque fue infiel a las 6 semanas de dar a luz a Lisa Marie ❤️ ya vale con la tontería. Acaso usted era una de esas mujeres que tenían hijos y Elvis ❤️ rechazo o que? Elvis ❤️ se acostó con tres mujeres al menos que eran madres y están demostradas, Susan Henneng, Bárbara Leigh y Anna Peggmenton, eso sí está confirmado, y ahora Lucy. Sepa usted que Prissy después cambio de parecer y dijo que si tenían sexo después del nacimiento de Lisa Marie ❤️ que fue sacado de contexto.
She was covering her tracks! Even after they were divorced,Billy Smith asked him if he thought he'd ever get back with Pricilla.He said no because too much waters run over that bridge.shes been with other people and so have I.@@edie1011
That vibrato is impossible for anybody to truly match when it came to the period of it. Especially the beautiful high vibrato and sounds like are you lonesome tonight or surrender
@@retrobilly1719 Never give up the dream! I was just an intern at The Miami News once. Now my books are read all over the world. Gotta stick to it. Good luck!
Hi thank you for everything you do Joe, really enjoying the Lucy book. I personally think Elvis never wanted to make love to Pricilla because she cheated on him 5 week's after giving birth to Lisa. Have you ever thought of that maybe that was it for him. He was done with her mowing she wasn't who she thought she was.
I believe the reason Elvis wasn’t intimate with PP Pardon me, PB,was because he found out she wasn’t faithful being with the dance instructor shortly after Lisa was born. What man would want to knowing his wife was unfaithful to him? Imo
Would like to see that little black book just to check if my numbers in it 😊😅 excellent interview ❤ fascinating research by Mr Dary Matera ...i keep dipping into my copy of the book ...thankyou both for this talk
I agree with you Joe... I think Priscilla made that up because she didnt want everyone to know that he just didnt want anything to do with her probably because she was messing around on him....I think she always resented Elvis for not wanting her anymore
Billy Stanley says if he and Elvis would go out for a ride , Elvis told Billy go get my wallet. Says he kept so much cash in it that it wouldn’t fold flat. One day out driving Elvis turned car around to talk to a homeless man. Billy Stanley said Elvis gave man all cash he had which was about $2k.
@@zucan100 Joseph Esposito told me he knew about Lucy, but didn't want to go against the Presley Estate because they feared Desiree' might make a claim against it. Some for others.
Elvis had work done on his nose soon after his film career began in the 1950s. He wanted it to look more streamlined for the camera. He also had some work done on his eyes in the 1970s. This is typical for anyone in show business, especially someone known for their looks, as well as talent. Look at a photo of Elvis in 1954, then in 1958. The change is pretty obvious. Billy Smith admits it is true, as well as other members of the MM.
@@stephaniefoley6834Love to see a side by side photo of both. Honestly I don't recall many pictures of Vernon, I see Elvis took after his Mom most, I thought.
When Lucy was asked by an audience member on Donahue’s show why she ripped up Desiree’s birth certificate, her answer was rather bizarre. She was practically speaking in 3rd person like she was referring to a created character. She replied, “ Oh because I would have an emotional state at that time because I thought he had met someone else and fell in love with someone else. It’s just a woman’s heart..and I just thought I’ll never tell him now that he’s found someone else.” ...Just odd phrasing..and it's not like Elvis was coming over to her house and would have found the birth certificate. Also, if all these people saw Elvis and "Little Lucy" together, how many of them came out publicly as witnesses when the book came out? Dary says many of them spoke to him about it but they're not around anymore. Will have to ask him if he took note of any of them..Video cameras existed in 1987..If I was the co-author of this book and "multiple people" came forward to me as witnesses after, I would definitely be asking to film them talking about it, and at the very least ask for a witness testimonial when Lucy and Desiree were being questioned so much and accused of lying.
@@zucan100 I agree with you as well..for the the most part at least. I don't find the story of Desiree running into Lisa Marie at Target too hard to believe. It's possible. I ran into Milla Jovovich at the pharmacy years ago...Patrick Stewart in the park, Hank Azaria on the street, the late Bob Saget at a restaurant..the list goes on and long..just to say it's A LOT more believable than Lucy renting a horse in Memphis and running into Elvis while he was on a horse and them riding up a hill and spending the night together with their horses tied to a tree. LOL (is that the story?) I too have questions about the authentication of the poem and Charles Hamilton. He appraised it for 100K (about a million in today's bucks) and he was known to sell autographs. As for the color of Elvis' suit when he visited the WH, you could be right. It was reported as purple for some reason. I have not analyzed the photos against the black cossack suit Elvis wore at the 68 Comeback Special. Thank you for letting me know of this so I can compare them. And as for the publisher not requiring to see Lucy's diary, this isn't a big surprise. You could write a book tomorrow saying your Grandma was Elvis' secret Yoga instructor that he snuck away to stretch with in the middle of the nights for years. Even with zero evidence, some publisher would possibly print and promote it..and many would believe the story if you included a bunch of names and places that are fact checkable to have been true in that era. That's where a lot of people latch onto fiction as fact. Tell them that Sam Donaldson owned the fried chicken joint down the street back in 1967 and they fact check and see he really did...so of course your Grammy taught Elvis Yoga and used to give him a big wink and chuckle as she walked past the window of the restaurant and wagged her finger at him for eating that greasy fried chicken after a good Yoga session with her. Just make sure it was a 24hr chicken joint if you're claiming these were secret 4am yoga sessions! LOL
Thank you Joe and Dary for doing this for us, your conversations are very interesting. I've never invested so much of my time in a book. The beginning of the book had me hooked. Your interviews could go on for 3 hrs. and I'd be good with that. lol I just can't get enough of this story.
I didn't know you hot a Baptismal certificate when you're baptized Catholic.I was Baptized at a few months old, but my mom and dad divorced when I was 6 months old.Ive never seen a certificate, of course I haven't seen moms divorce papers either.My srepfather when drunk was crazy and would tear up the house snd pictures etc. So it probably was part of the destruction during those years. They divorced when I was 11 thank God! He terrorized us for years.😢
I agree with Dary in regards to the use of the word ignorant. By definition it means without knowledge. In popular use it has been construed to mean idiot!😂.
WoW - Love feelin the joys in this interview ! U each are such rightful positive gems & i pray there are many more interviews to come (even if the subject doesnt change) THIS is such a BLAST to watch & listen !😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 THANK U ❤!❤!❤!❤!❤❤!❤!❤!❤!!
I just heard your comment about Elvis not wanting to be with a woman who had given birth. You didn't mention the fact that Billy and Jo Smith BOTH said it's true.
Yes that’s what has been said by many people. And when she says in the book he would call for her ti meet him she was never pregnant at the time? Even though she has 6 children! Elvis never even knew. Doesn’t sound right to me.
@@sarahbennett4653 That's far too logical thinking. Maybe Elvis just happened to meet up with her when she was in her first trimesters and right after she gave birth when her husbands were so supportive to let her leave town to go tour and perform.
I so enjoy your interviews. I have the book and loaned it to my neighbor. Like me she loves the book. She asked me if I could order the book for her friend for Christmas 🎄. I have & it will be here in time for Christmas 👏👏I feel more Elvis fans need to read this fantastic book. Thanks Joe & Dary ...
Is there a record of Elvis saying he didn’t want to have sex with women who had children or did Priscilla just say he said it as an excuse for having affairs? I think I read somewhere that Priscilla has recently backtracked saying yes she and Elvis continued to have sex after Lisa was born just like any other married couple.
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The book is certainly a well-written enjoyable book, but I view it as two separate stories--the "love story" and the "love child." If you believe in the "love story," that's fine, but it does NOT, in and of itself, PROVE the story of the "love child." It simply does not. The information in the book is "circumstantial" evidence, including the poem. Even if the handwriting experts authenticated the poem to be in Elvis' handwriting, that still does NOT prove that Desiree is (allegedly) Elvis' child. As I've said before, I do NOT view this book as a "love story," but rather, IF true, a "SELF-INFLICTED TRAGEDY," as perpetrated by Lucy. There would be no need to debate this issue back and forth, if Lucy simply would have been FORTHRIGHT and told Elvis of their (alleged) child, but to everyone's detriment, she did not. Then, when she finally got onboard about writing the book to prove that Desiree was Elvis' daughter, she half-stepped it by not seeking out "hard" evidence. Just because she claimed not to want any money from the estate, that still does not make her case any more credible, imo, and it is NOT EPE's responsibility to prove Lucy's and Desiree's case. As in any other lawsuit, it is not the opposing party's responsibility to prove your case. Unfortunately, Lucy failed to petition the COURT's help in establishing paternity, which, as you know, is a "legal acknowledgement of the relationship between a father and his child," and thus failed in proving her case. All the best!
Interesting take. Problem is like so many, you are projecting what you would have done if you were in Lucy's heels. Not what Lucy actually did from her own perspective, life situation, and decision making. It often frustrated me, but I also respected Lucy for sticking to her guns, however maddening.. The purpose of Are You Lonesome Tonight was not to prove that Desiree' was Elvis daughter to a legion of faceless strangers. It was to allow her daughter to know the full story of her existence. A decades long saga that Lucy could never bring herself to tell Desiree' directly - and be judged by Desiree' - since it was so deeply layered. The best way to accomplish that was via a book. That fact that Lucy eventually, after two years of nagging, agreed to allow the world to share her sweeping tale was all my doing. I can be rather persistent, and charming.
Billy Smith, Elvis' cousin recently talked about Elvis not wanting to be w/a mother- Billy said Elvis did feel that way when he was younger, but he got over it....so- I dont know if he meant younger as in 15, or younger as in 25....
I heard Billy say that in one of his and Jo’s videos l would believe him and Jo before anyone else they where there billy and his family all moved with Elvis family and his family moved into a house that Elvis and billy knocked down on Graceland before Elvis and his family moved in Billy’s dad was overseeing all the work that was being done before they moved in Billy’s channel is very good if he doesn’t know the answer to something he says so he was with Elvis from start to finish right to his last few hrs
@@Daffy-w8isi estaba allí tanto con Elvis ❤️ que por eso ha repetido durante mucho tiempo palabra por palabra el libro de Prissy pantalones. Incluso hay una entrevista de santo Billy Smith, hablando pestes de Elvis ❤️ con Red West y más personas donde lo dejó y permitió que lo dejarán cómo un drogadicto y pedófilo. Estaba allí tanto que habla de las infidelidades de Elvis ❤️ a Prissy pero las de Prissy que se saben no las dice en su programa o canal. Lo he visto y nunca habla de eso. Billy Smith era 8 años menor que Elvis ❤️ y cuando Elvis ❤️ conoció a Lucy él era un mocoso, por lo tanto no lo sabe, pero si niega a Dixy Locky de no conocerla cuando sabemos que Elvis ❤️ tuvo algo con ella. Pero eso es porque sabe todo 😅.
@@hawaiiusa6147quién dice eso? Lo dice usted? Está investigado todo. Difamar sin pruebas al autor del libro no es bueno. O saca las pruebas y demuéstralo.
I don’t understand how anyone, at this point, has any doubts about Lucy’s story being true. Dary went out of his way to fact-check Lucy’s story & include it in the book. I’ve never seen an Elvis book with that before. Dary has brought out so many true facts that should convince most anyone that Lucy told him the truth. I totally believe & respect you Dary. God bless you 🙏
Love the Dary Matera talks! Too bad he only ever did one Elvis book, would like him to keep coming back. Maybe he should do another Elvis theme for his next book! One on LMP maybe?
Regarding half siblings not looking alike. It's different with half siblings, some of them can look a lot alike and others can look very different depending on who the other parents are. For instance, when i was matched by DNA to an unknown half uncle, the dna could only say how much DNA we shared but not what side of my family until he was matched with another relative. It was very confusing because this guy shared features that looked like my dad's side (German) but he turned out to be on my mom's side (British). Turns out his mother was German so thats why he looked like my German side to me! Yet my mother and aunt could tell straight away he was their father's son by odd little things like eyebrows. But all the offspring of my grandfather and grandmother all have the exact same chin, whereas this guy had a square cleft chin like my dad's german side! So it just depends on how the genes fall. Desiree looks a lot like her mother so that would skew how Elvis' features would appear compared to his child (LMP) who looked exactly like him. Happens all th time where one full sibling could look like one parent and another sibling like the other (or other relatives even). And if a half sibling takes strong traits from the non-shared parent, you wouldn't see as strong of a resemblance. I recently had puppies from dogs same breed but different features, its amazing how some look identical to one or other parent, some look like both, huge variation in appearance! Ive seen siblings who are not twins but look like twins vs full siblings who look nothing alike. My mother was 5'11 and her full sister was only 5'5. So even full siblings can differ a lot. But especially so half siblings.
Exactly, my father had Swedish heritage, my mother had French, my siblings and I all look different. And each one of was told we looked like a great, great uncle or aunt from different sides of the family
@@epfanforever yes! Growing up it was always remarked how my sister and I looked like our dad's sisters more than my mom and our brother looked more like my mom's brother than our dad! I hate the Prince Harry paternity rumors because Harry gets his looks from the Spencer side. Two of Diana's siblings were gingers! But Charles has an unusual trumpet shaped nose and after Harry grew up you can see he has Charlie's exact nose. His resemblance to the other guy they rumor him about was an ETHNIC resemblance not a family resemblance. European stock is losing our understanding of ethnic resemblances due to the current ethnocide we are experiencing.
@sdrounder9863 I was closed minded to Lucy & Desiree when this book first came out and saw them on Donahue. Completely shut them out as being another fraud trying to get fame and money. So very happy Joe started reading this book and I have to give Joe the credit for his great reading voice and Dary for writing this Beautiful story that keeps me so enthralled that it opened up my mind to reasoning. I really dread the end.
@@sdrounder9863 Many have sadly lamented over the years that Billy Joel's poor daughter took after him, dark and kind of froggy looking, and not her gorgeous blonde super modal mother Christie Brinkley. Such are the variances of genetics.
No, I want to look at the video that he sang all your lunch up tonight. The last time he was on stage 1977 he was not crying. He had sweat coming down. He couldn’t remember the song he was laughing so I think he misunderstood that he’ll have to watch it again. lol it had another show. It wasn’t that show. He’s not crying.
Yeah, I watched it again lol he forgot the lines. Je was laughing. He did have like tears coming, but that was sweat that wasn’t tears and I looked everywhere that on stage that maybe it was a different concert. I can’t find it anywhere. He’s laughing when he’s singing a song and making fun of the song, I don’t know what you’re send lol but I’m not seeing him crying
@@RareElvisPhotos now the song that really gets to me when I think of them if you listen to the words, it’s just pretend because I swear when they was on the phone, she said close your eyes and just pretend or he said that one of them said that on the phone just pretend I’m with you just think that I’m with you and your mind and that’s the song I can’t get out of my mind. That’s the song I break down when I think of them too.
@@RareElvisPhotos I like the song are you lonesome tonight but when you see him on stage singing just pretend 1970 I can’t get it out of my head of them too. I just can’t and he’s singing. It was so much passion that’s a song that really really gets to me because everything he saying it’s them too and I know they said that on the phone just picture me there with you or pretend I’m with you. I know that’s in the book.
Yes 100% watching those paternity court shows sometimes the kid doesn’t look like his dad at all which made the boyfriend/husband doubt in the first place but then it turns out the kid is his child. Dna is a funny thing, you can’t determine anything by just looks.
I would like to see pictures of Lucy. I don’t know when she was a teenager, maybe 20 and her 20s but I don’t really know if she had a lot of pictures taken over herself because of that guy so I don’t know if they have any.
I think the whole Joyce Bova abortion wasn't E not wanting to be with a mother. I think she made that decision because she didn't completely trust E and was concerned about her career.
Re darys comment about losing a woman, Joe has said he lost his son. I've seen the video of Elvis crying during the song Are you lonesome tonight? Elvis was very emotional and cried very easily.
I’m not a Priscilla fan after watching your videos! I think Elvis may have said that he would never make love to a woman who was a mother because he didn’t love Priscilla anymore and just didn’t want to make love to her anymore.
Would Linda Thompson or David Foster know more? I do love that Tarzan movie! After listening to a Charlie Hodge interview, he mentioned that Elvis had bought a black Transam for Wendy Miller because she didn't want a big car! As I mentioned before he said Elvis would go off on his his own and drive around Memphis. He also said that Elvis never wore a disguise in his life, why would he say that! There was a movie made about Elvis and Nixon, I'll try and watch that.
Ahora no se está hablando de Prissy pantalones, es la historia de amor de Elvis ❤️ y Lucy. Pero en eso tienes razón nadie sabe nada de Elvis ❤️ realmente, sólo él pero algunas personas se creen que si lo saben todo sobre Elvis ❤️ 😅
Joe pertaining to Priscilla having an affair with Mike Stone..I saw an interview with Red West ralking about this..Red said when Elvis found out about he went mad. Elvis told Red "He wanted Mike killed and asked Red if he would do"? Of course Red told him no,but when Elvis calmed down,Red asked him if he was serious about Mike Stone? Elvis told him "Just forget about it." Elvis didn't understand why Priscilla would leave him, especially for someone that didn't have any money. This was all said by Red in this interview..So i dont think Elvis took it so lightly that Priscilla was with another man..To bring up another point.. Talking about Elvis wouldn't have anything to do with a woman that had children and what a woman's body could look like .If it was possible that Priscillas body changed and that was a turn off for Elvis.When Lucy met him she already had two children,then four then six..I am almost positive her body had to change..Fact is Elvis told Priscilla when she was seven months pregnant,they should seperate..I think for Elvis it was to much for him looking at her being pregnant..Some men get a little turned off...Did Elvis love Lucy,i think he did because Lucy saw the man not the entertainer.. That's what he always wanted..Did he love Priscilla? I think he loved her but didn't respect her...I am definitely not a Priscilla fan, She brought to much grief and harm to him..Thank you and God Bless .MITTE always..
Elvis did have romances which are not as well known or discussed. For example, Betty Goodwin or Goodman. An early year girlfriend in 55'. He gave her a Triumph car, ring, fur coat. She was in a car crash. She was buried in the fur coat. Tommy Van Sandt introduced them. They met in Alabama and she actually moved to Memphis.
What name did Lucy lable her fashions? Maybe people have some of her clothing! There are so many second hand stores all over the country. I do believe this and want to help prove it to the Elvis world to go on record as truth.
I agree with Dary - people are being ignorant. I had the guy who runs the British podcast "Elvis Ultimate Fan Channel" tell me that Desiree is not Elvis' daughter after I suggested he talk to her. Then when I asked him for proof that he was so sure, he started being condescending. I told him that Desiree is Elvis' daughter. After reading Lucy's book I have no doubt. Also, Joyce does say in her book that he was in DC then went to LA and came back.
I don’t think they’re gonna let anything come out about Lucy. You got to remember that people are living in a fantasy world. I guess I was one of them about Elvis and Priscilla and that’s how they make their money so anything about Lucy this Elvis states going to deny to this day And nothing will become of it. It would be nice if this was made into a movie now I don’t know if they’re allowed to. It’s kind of weird I mean it’s like did they own Elvis forever?
@DaryMatera I really enjoyed the video and I can definitely tell you are a country boy. I died laughing when you said sloppy seconds. We used to say that when I was a teenager. 😂
@@jillkolbe You can take the boy out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the boy. Same with Elvis. My mom was from a tiny town in North Carolina. Tobacco farmers. (Aka nicotine drug dealers. ) My dad was from an Italian Immigrant family in New York. Major contrast. And I grew up in Thailand and the Philippines. How's that for some crazy nurturing? Where are you from? Live now? Are you a Crazy B....like Buckcherry sings? Have you ever destroyed a cheating boyfriend's fancy four wheel drive?
@ Thank you sir. I’m just now watching the rest of this video and I’m very intrigued with the information about Lucy and I believe Desiree is Elvis’ child. When I first heard it, I admit I was an unbeliever. Now with all the evidence and listening to you read Lucy’s book I’m believing her story. I live in Texas and I’ve always loved Elvis Presley! 🤣🌹❤️🌹❤️
I believe PP made up the story of Elvis not wanting her anymore because she was a mother was to exonerate herself from her cheating. Good excuse and it makes him look unreasonable and weird. She was trying to look like a martyr and victimlike. Unbelievable that she was so manipulative even back then.
@ Very plausible explanation too. We know whatever her reasons were it was to make her look good and Elvis seem like the bad person. Narcissistic personality with no sympathy or compassion as we’ve witnessed with the suits against poor Lisa Maria and her children. Very sad 😢
It's interesting how Elvis embraced his 3 little brothers living with him after the army. If he had married Lucy after the army he would have been a father to 3 little girls at similar ages to his brothers. He woyld have been great with them too!
A lot of young girls kept diaries l myself when young always had one but some wrote there fantasy’s in them believing them to be true it was what they wanted to be true
Some of the comments in Elvis groups are unbelievable, they have closed minds and are obsessed, I mean they don't believe Elvis loved Lucy because of a colour of his suit! So, there's a recent frenzy about the old claim that Lucy De Barbin had a 24 year affair with Elvis, resulting in a love child known as Desiree Presley. This is because Rare Elvis Photo's (REP's) dredged up the old book, Are You Lonesome Tonight and had the author (Dary Matera) on his channel, defending Lucy's claims and going so far as to state that Lucy knew information only someone in the position that Lucy claims to have been in, would know. REP's seems to have fallen hook line and sinker for Lucy's story and is defending the book from any criticism. One of the claims made by Lucy in the book, is that she met Elvis in Washington, just prior to him meeting Nixon and that Elvis was wearing a purple velvet suit with a reversable cape for the occasion. Matera claims to have told Lucy that the suit was black as far as he knew and that if she were wrong about this aspect, they would be in trouble and basically, the book may not stand up to scrutiny (paraphrasing). Matera claims that after research, he found that Lucy was correct and that the suit was purple - some books do claim the suit was purple, including Goldman's Elvis. However, we know that people like to make Elvis seem much large than life and often in ways that try him embarrass him or make him look weird. Well, Elvis's outfit wasn't a suit, he wore his black Cossack two piece, from his early Vegas residency and the jacket was the BLACK velvet jacket from the 68 Special. I have had this confirmed via email from BK enterprises, who own Bill Belew designs and of course Bill designed Elvis's costumes for the 68 special - INCLUDING the black velvet jacket he wore for the Guitar Man/Trouble medley. I doubt Matera or REP's will accept the FACTS but see below. Interesting to not that Matera stated that if Lucy's claim about the 'suit' were found to be incorrect - he would have 'fluffed it' or 'not included it in the book'? He wouldn't have questioned her? Well, no one can now, but, not purple, not a suit, no cape - just the 68 Special Black Velvet jacket designed by Bill Belew, draped over his shoulders! De Barbin's claim of 'seeing' Elvis, just before he met Nixon is..............
Can no one answer this question: why did the people who saw Elvis in the White House that day say Elvis had on purple? Why would they say he did if he didn't? What would be their motive? The White House Historical Association says Elvis had on purple. Jack Anderson, who broke the story, said he had on purple. Again, someone please tell me why the aides in the White House and those who saw Elvis eating in the White House mess are lying?
You are totally incorrect about the outfit Elvis wore. The issue and color was settled long ago by those who saw Elvis at the White House - including government officials in the Nixon administration. No part of it was black. Sorry. Different outfit.
@@DaryMatera Thank you for clearing that up. But if you read it again, I was quoting from a facebook post. I believe Lucy, I read her book in 1989. Elvis deserves better. These groups don't believe Lucy, who came across as a sincere and truthful lady, but they rally around Mindi Miller who does not. Says it all, don't you think.
@@jackdoe4632 Some Elvis fans tend to be a quizzical group. Cult like following. They think they are protecting his legacy, but from what? Are You Lonesome Tonight was a glowing and tender portrayal of the troubled King. It came out on the heeds of Albert Goldman's massive hit piece that tore Elvis to shreds unlike anything ever written before. Even the Presley Estate, after fighting me tooth and nail, changed their tune after Are You Lonesome Tonight came out, and Desiree' never filed a legal claim.
@@DaryMatera Priscilla, they are protecting Elvis from Priscilla's machinations and lies. But as you say, it has become a cult and extends way beyond that, idol worship! Many of them need to get a life.
I don't think Elvis compared Lucy to anyone, period! She was in a seperate category all of her own. So I don't think it matters what Elvis thought of this girl, or that girl. Or didn't want a woman who had kids, Lucy wasn't in any of those equations. Lucy was not Priscilla or anyone else. Lucy couldn't do anything wrong in Elvis's eyes. She was his one true love. Lucy could have had 20 kids and Elvis would have still wanted her!! This is the sweetest love affair that ever existed. I feel so sad for Lucy and Elvis. Desiree too.
@@tammylynne4 What's even sadder is watching The King cry on stage while singing Are You Lonesome Tonight in one of his last ever concerts. I'm sure it's on You Tube somewhere.
@@ccat148 Apparently Lucy, aka Desiree', was the only name Elvis dropped when wired up on the lie detector. Apparently he felt if he didn't mention his big lifetime secret love the needle would jump off the page, indicating that he wasn't being truthful.
It is wild that Lucy knew his outfit when Elvis saw President Nixon was purple- she was spot on. Also, Elvis went to his mothers grave alone- he did go places alone at times.
Elvis wearing the purple suit was public knowledge and written and printed in the Washington Post newspaper on Thursday, Jan. 27, 1972. This article was written by Jack Anderson 15 years before the book was released. The newspaper had over 1/2 a million daily readers at that time and would have been printed by other papers following that article. Not wild at all that Lucy and millions of others knew that Elvis' suit he wore to meet President Nixon was purple.
@@zucan100 Read the Washington Post article. It clearly states it was purple. Dark purple would look black in the black and white photos we see. From the 1972 article: "Resplendent in purple suit and cloak, with a gold belt buckle and amber sunglasses, he sashayed through the door."
@@zucan100 I believe the "official" photos are all black and white like the ones you can order from the national archives. The color ones appear to be colorized/ enhanced and vary greatly between Nixon's necktie being a purple-blue to avocado green. The national news reports stated it was purple,15 years before the book came out.
@@zucan100 I'm not defending Lucy's story and I'm aware the news story of Elvis meeting Nixon came out 13 months after they met. As I mentioned, the color photos have been altered/colorized. What is the argument here and why? You believe the suit was black and that's it? Where is the color photo available in the national archives? Please feel free to share the link to the "official" color photo from the "official" credible source if you have it and can prove it, and if this detail is important enough to keep discussing. Sorry if I'm missing the point and how any of it is relevant to the story...other than the timeline being off..with so many other things.
@@KatMandew0 So many subsequent books mentioned that the outfit was black. I showed them to Lucy and she was unbending that it was purple. If she didn't see it, how would she know which reports were the truth? People like Zucan100 in this thread insist to this day it was black, and rip on the book based upon their own ignorance. Lucy never read Jack Anderson's column in Texas. Washington Post has never been popular in Texas.
Yes if you don't have a birth certificate you can still use a certificate from your Catholic I'm not Catholic but I googled it and that's what it says You can still use the Catholic thing no disrespect to the Catholics please don't take this the wrong way
My mother in law wasn't Catholic,she was Baptist and came from a very poor background, was born at home. When she was in her 80's something happened, I don't remember what but she needed a birth certificate, my sister in law was beside herself trying to get one. Finally she went to the church where she was Baptised when she was 11yrs and it was accepted and she was able to obtain her certificate.
@@epfanforever Churches of many denominations had legal power in this regard because so many births weren't officially filed. Carried out by midwives in the birthing mother's home. You see this a lot in old cowboys movies.
@DaryMatera So true, TN. was a very poor state before TVA came into existence and brought power & water to outlying areas, so many births were at home.
Well I want to hear what Lisa Maries husband has to say about that meeting. Maybe the look Lisa gave her was a look of disgust. How are you to know what she was thinking. Did she say when she saw her “ there’s the girl who says she’s Elvis‘s other daughter. She looks just like him or just like me.” no I don’t think so. We don’t know she was . There’s so many stories out there, but none of us are ever gonna know the truth about. I just want to enjoy Elvis, his music and movies without all these stories that will never know our true or not
Sandy, let's cherish the memory of beloved ELVIS and RESPECT the Man and his work, which some people who express themselves do less and less! ELVIS = LOVE and ABNEGATION / Best regards / TLC/ Lucette!
señora Lucy, en memoria de Elvis ❤️ respete a sus nietas primero porque no lo habéis hecho. Respete a la madre de su primera hija, Lucy y el verdadero amor de su vida, aunque le ponga a usted celosa más que otra cosa. Usted deja a Elvis ❤️ por los comentarios que veo suyos como que estaba enamorado de su propia madre y que lo único que no podía hacer con ella era acostarse con ella. Eso es asqueroso señora Lucy.
I havent dipped into it enough but i have talked to her. I am of the opinion that it truly doesnt matter who your folks are- its what you do or did with your life and if you were kind and loving. I do think anyone who is a child out of marriage and isnt recognized truly suffers and the estate has not made it easy to verify
I've always thought it was just an excuse, "not sleeping with Prissy due to having a baby" that Elvis came up with without putting much thought to it knowing Prissy couldn't change the situation, she was a mom. He just didn't want Prissy. Elvis could have all the company he wanted away from home. BUT when he was at home for weeks due to not working and wanted "company" and she was there WILLING for the taking, he would have had her. Normal human thing. Prissy will never admit it but she knows humans at her age, he just didn't want HER. He just had NO idea the world would be dissecting his life for 50 or more years. He never could have imagined today's flat world due to the internet. I don't think it crossed his mind we'd all hear about the flimsy excuse he came up with. And WHY would Prissy repeat that to the world. She's an idiot.
Billy Smith insists that the only plastic surgery Elvis had was his nostrils narrowed earlier in his career and his eyes done later in his career. But just changing a nose can change the way the rest of the face looks. But also children only get half their looks from the father. Priscilla and Lucy don’t look anything alike to me.
I need to double-check, but through the years, he had more than his nose done. Elvis didn't like the way his nostrils flared out is why is why he had the nose done❤
No, Billy commented on the face lift in one video. E was asking if noticed anything different? No. 🤣 E got mad. Told Billy not to tell anyone, but then Elvis goes around telling everyone 😂😂
Thank you Dary. It is a beautifully written book.
Enjoyed the conversation with Dary as always.
Have a weekend Joe & your family
Excellent video fellas.
Darry Is Great! What a Story ! Fantastic
Snowbird is a bit more appropriate to the Elvis/Lucy story than you covered. It is not a happy song at all. It is about someone who has been cheated on (if Elvis was emoting, might he think about Priscilla cheating on him, since it affected him so much?) and wishes for better, asking to fly away with the snowbird (thinking of Lucy who was never a problem to him?), presumably to escape the pain of a lover who betrayed him....and wondering if he should go back to that person (which he likely had to consider a time or two, before coming to some conclusion) realizing he might experience heartache again......
Some key phrases..."The one I love forever is untrue. And if I could you know that I would fly away with you....He'll only break my heart again should I decide to stay. So, little snowbird, take me with you when you go, to that land of gentle breezes where the peaceful waters flow."
And, yes, she almost died in snow...So, little snowbird! How appropriate a term for her, really.
But -- Elvis was good at telling women he was sending messages through songs. He said that to everybody. I believe Priscilla said in "Elvis and Me" that he would send her records from stateside that indicated his feelings to her ..... romantic Elvis. And big fibber!
MITTE, Thanks Dary and Joe for such a great conversation.
Never get tired of listening to you guys< great show. Truly believe the mother lie came from crazy Prissy .She had to make up a lie because she was the one being unfaithful. Awesome video,time flies listening to you both.
Only the really gullible ever bought that nonsense. As if Elvis queried every woman brought to him, then humiliated them by sending them packing if they dared bring another life into the world. Total BS.
This info is so interesting, Elvis Presley, is and always will be the most influential and Loved entertainer in the World, I believe because he Loved God and did so much for People in his giving! Thank You So much.
Love, love, love this story and conversation between you two.
I’ve seen the “are you lonesome tonight”, where he’s crying. Boy, Elvis had a lot of great songs and nobody can sing them like Elvis.
Mitre. Great video
It's heartbreaking, especially for those who have read the book by that name.
@@hawaiiusa6147 Elvis was absolutely tearing up.. Tears rolling now his famous and still handsome cheek. You must be referring to the wrong performance. It was one of his last ever when he was extremely overweight along with being an emotional wreck. Wearing a white Vegas glittery jumpsuit. I'm sure it's on You Tube somewhere. Singing Are You Lonesome Tonight.
@@DaryMaterasi lo está, lo he visto cantar ésa canción. Creo qué en su último concierto también la canta.
Thank you ! Loved the interview ! MITTE! XX
I live in central KENTUCKY and I love the song.
Thank you Dary and Joe!! I love 💕 Love these talks!! And I can’t wait to hear more about this book bcz I’m a believer in this story!! ❤️ ♥️ 💜
Thank you Joe and Dary,, loved this conversation
This live was so entertaining! Thank you both 🌹❤️🙏
it was soooo wonderful the conversation steering from one topic to another of course in tandem 😊👍👍 very informative clarity on a lot of things as usual Dary is very attentive & informative on a lot of topics as for me i learn when he speaks defntly much younger to u both i hang on to every word as i am an Elvis fan & from India yes i cant contribute much so i learn in the process but i thoroughly enjoy thank u Joe oh yeah ur younger son looks sweet & adorable ❤❤ i luv all ur notes ur posts the conversation tooooo good thank u 👏💟🙏🥳 truly appreciate 😊
Dary, I'm leaving this message on a couple of videos, hoping you all will read it. Get DNA on all the kids saying that Elvis is their daddy. If just one half siblings match, you have something! But hurry, you want to get DNA before they all pass. I have little understanding, but to get a male DNA, it shows more. There was a kid on The Voice from Australia, says he is Elvis' grandson and you have Elvis, Junior and, the Brando girl, etc. It would be fun!
If you all need funding, take it to a talk show host. That would be a big deal!
Beloved ELVIS being in my life and my heart since 1956 (I was 9 years old) I don't have the heart to listen to all these stories anymore ,,,,,,,, , so keep it up with each other! Bye bye! TLC / God bless you all! Lucette from France /Ps : What is to be regretted , is that , we talk more about his private life than about his masterful work ;;;;;; too bad /
Pues lárguese. Aquí no se trata de cuánto tiempo eres fan o no. Y no somos nosotros los que hemos escrito libros, Prissy pantalones, la mafia de Memphis, las ex novias etc.
Para defender a Elvis ❤️ tenemos que saber la verdad y para eso estamos aquí porque él no está aquí para defenderse de nada.
Yo tengo 27 años y también lo amo, soy de España.
Hasta luego Lucy 😅
@@MartaArroyoHerrero You are too young to talk to your elders like that. Watch your mouth.
@@Winter-bluestengo más educación que otras personas que os creéis superiores en el mundo de Elvis ❤️ sólo porque erais de la edad de Pocahontas, "fans" que os pensáis que sabéis cada paso que él daba o a quién frecuentaba sólo porque habéis leído libros de sus supuestos amigos que lo traicionarían por dinero y envidia, porque no soportaban que Elvis ❤️ fuera guapo y talentoso.
Mi boca está muy bien cuidada, yo no llevo atacando a las hijas de Lisa Marie ❤️ durante casi dos años, sobre todo a Riley porque supuestamente no hace lo que vosotros queréis que haga cuando ella lo ha hecho de maravilla, cuando le hace guiños a su abuelo Elvis ❤️ cuando le hace tributo en su serie, cuando ahora está llevando su legado, cuando ha sacado el audiolibro de su madre, ha dejado las cosas malas sobre todo las malas acciones de Prissy pantalones, pero aún así no estáis conformes,. Que más tiene que hacer Riley escupír a Prissy en la cara en público para que os de gusto y veáis que no la soporta?
Gritar a los cuatro vientos su amor por Elvis ❤️ para que veáis que lo quiere?
Que sabéis lo que ella siente por él o no?
Que sabéis si ella lo llama abuelo en privado?
Dejadla en paz.
No me hable usted de educación.
Most of her responses are rude and disrespectful. She should be blocked if it continues!
@@Winter-bluesmi boca está muy bien cuidada, mejor que los mayores que dais miedo.
Me habla usted a mí de educación? No se ha fijado en OTRAS personas como usted que lleváis atacando a Riley durante Casi dos años por ejemplo.
if Elvis didnt know- how would he tell anyone about a child...
Exactly. 😂👍👍
They are talking about his relationship with Lucy. Not Desiree. @@mikem957
I believe this is where the John Wayne theory comes into play...if Lucy told John Wayne she had a daughter with Elvis..which would be a little odd that she would tell John Wayne but not Elvis...but I believe that is the theory anyways.
@@KatMandew0 Not odd at all. Such a historic secret would be hard to keep for so long. Lucy had to tell someone. She obviously thought Wayne, being a mega star himself, would understand.
@@DaryMatera Obviously is far too strong a word and assumption..especially when you're only speculating and there is no evidence that she even met John Wayne. Knowing that he stayed in a motel/hotel outside of town isn't proof. I know where a number of big celebrities stay because a close friend and ex-teammate of one of my best friends' rents them his place in Malibu. Bono, Dicaprio etc..Doesn't mean I went there and met them.
If elvis thought so much of lucy, why didnt he take her to meet gladys???? He took everyone else
In the book, I believe that he wanted to, but she was married with two children, and I guess if you can take a look at it from a woman’s perspective she probably had a lot of shame. In fact I think she mentioned that.
You know, even June Juanico's husband understood. After all those years. She stated, after learning of his death, she was crying and her husband came over, embraced her and just let her cry and grieve. Sweet and touching. ❤
Lots of similarities with Are You Lonesome Tonight in scores of Elvis books.
Long one but made it to the end . Very enjoyable. In my opinion, Elvis didn’t tell Priscilla he couldn’t be intimate with a woman after she became a mother. I think that was a way of Priscilla’s way of exonerating herself and blaming Elvis. She knew this would make him seem weird. He didn’t want her because she had been with another man.
@@edie1011ésa es una ridícula teoría inventada por la mente enferma por Prissy pantalones, ella se lo invento, porque fue infiel a las 6 semanas de dar a luz a Lisa Marie ❤️ ya vale con la tontería.
Acaso usted era una de esas mujeres que tenían hijos y Elvis ❤️ rechazo o que?
Elvis ❤️ se acostó con tres mujeres al menos que eran madres y están demostradas, Susan Henneng, Bárbara Leigh y Anna Peggmenton, eso sí está confirmado, y ahora Lucy.
Sepa usted que Prissy después cambio de parecer y dijo que si tenían sexo después del nacimiento de Lisa Marie ❤️ que fue sacado de contexto.
She was covering her tracks! Even after they were divorced,Billy Smith asked him if he thought he'd ever get back with Pricilla.He said no because too much waters run over that bridge.shes been with other people and so have I.@@edie1011
Thank you Dary and Joe. We learn so much from your conversations.
You are correct Joe. You know more about music and voice. But, his natural vibrato! It is so distinctive!
That vibrato is impossible for anybody to truly match when it came to the period of it. Especially the beautiful high vibrato and sounds like are you lonesome tonight or surrender
You are Awesome Professional Joe!
I am just a Local Singer Songwriter But admire your Talent
@@retrobilly1719 Never give up the dream! I was just an intern at The Miami News once. Now my books are read all over the world. Gotta stick to it. Good luck!
Awesome interview. Love listening to you read Joe and your Elvis voice. Your songs are beautiful. Thank you!!
Hi thank you for everything you do Joe, really enjoying the Lucy book.
I personally think Elvis never wanted to make love to Pricilla because she cheated on him 5 week's after giving birth to Lisa. Have you ever thought of that maybe that was it for him. He was done with her mowing she wasn't who she thought she was.
He was 2 years old when he was wearing that hat at least that's what I was told
Mr. Matera you are a great man and fabulous writer. Thank you for writing Lucy’s book. 🌹❤️🙏
Thanks! It was a battle with the agent and publisher not to tone it down and let Lucy be Lucy.
@ Your way of writing Sir was the best way. 🌹🌹🌹❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏
@ Mr. Matera, I just subscribed to your channel, I hope that’s ok.
@@rosasp.2936 I agree! But tell that to my dearly departed crusty New York agent!
@ You’re wonderful book being a success, that told everyone dear! 🌹🌹❤️❤️🙏🙏
I believe the reason Elvis wasn’t intimate with PP Pardon me, PB,was because he found out she wasn’t faithful being with the dance instructor shortly after Lisa was born. What man would want to knowing his wife was unfaithful to him? Imo
No PP , but PB !
@ Pardon me.. PB 🌹
spa guy goes to all elvis places proves a lot in his videos
WOW in a Target! This makes me cry
For These Sisters! Now we have lost Lisa Marie!
Would like to see that little black book just to check if my numbers in it 😊😅 excellent interview ❤ fascinating research by Mr Dary Matera ...i keep dipping into my copy of the book ...thankyou both for this talk
Appreciate at the interview. A little long for me though. Happy Thanksgiving, Dary and Joe!
I love Vern Gosdin The Voice,, specially his song,, Chiseled in Stone,, Joe could you please sing that song one day :D
He Josie! I’ll load something over on my Elvis and the legends.
I agree with you Joe... I think Priscilla made that up because she didnt want everyone to know that he just didnt want anything to do with her probably because she was messing around on him....I think she always resented Elvis for not wanting her anymore
As Always Joe... it's a treat when you converse with dary...he's so natural.. I don't want the book to ever end...
Billy Stanley says if he and Elvis would go out for a ride , Elvis told Billy go get my wallet. Says he kept so much cash in it that it wouldn’t fold flat. One day out driving Elvis turned car around to talk to a homeless man. Billy Stanley said Elvis gave man all cash he had which was about $2k.
@@zucan100 Joseph Esposito told me he knew about Lucy, but didn't want to go against the Presley Estate because they feared Desiree' might make a claim against it. Some for others.
@@zucan100 I AGREE. Kathy lied. Don't want to hear her lies
Mr Joe great interview 🌹
Elvis had work done on his nose soon after his film career began in the 1950s. He wanted it to look more streamlined for the camera. He also had some work done on his eyes in the 1970s. This is typical for anyone in show business, especially someone known for their looks, as well as talent. Look at a photo of Elvis in 1954, then in 1958. The change is pretty obvious. Billy Smith admits it is true, as well as other members of the MM.
I believe he had a facelift in the 70s also.
He didn't need any of it.
@@youtubeuserthinker Absolutely not!
@@youtubeuserthinkerno es verdad no lo necesitaba, él siempre fue bello.
Eso no cambia el hecho de que Desirée si es su hija 😅.
The dimple, in Desiree's chin, is just like Vernon's. Best interview yet!❤ Thank you!
Yes I saw that immediately. Her face structure and chin 100% Vernon
@@stephaniefoley6834Love to see a side by side photo of both. Honestly I don't recall many pictures of Vernon, I see Elvis took after his Mom most, I thought.
I immediately thought Desiree looked like Vernon.
When Lucy was asked by an audience member on Donahue’s show why she ripped up Desiree’s birth certificate, her answer was rather bizarre. She was practically speaking in 3rd person like she was referring to a created character. She replied, “ Oh because I would have an emotional state at that time because I thought he had met someone else and fell in love with someone else. It’s just a woman’s heart..and I just thought I’ll never tell him now that he’s found someone else.” ...Just odd phrasing..and it's not like Elvis was coming over to her house and would have found the birth certificate.
Also, if all these people saw Elvis and "Little Lucy" together, how many of them came out publicly as witnesses when the book came out? Dary says many of them spoke to him about it but they're not around anymore. Will have to ask him if he took note of any of them..Video cameras existed in 1987..If I was the co-author of this book and "multiple people" came forward to me as witnesses after, I would definitely be asking to film them talking about it, and at the very least ask for a witness testimonial when Lucy and Desiree were being questioned so much and accused of lying.
I unfortunately do not believe this story. I have so many questions
I agree 100% with what you have just said to me there’s no real proof to any of this no pictures nothing just words
@@zucan100 I agree with you. I think it’s a love story of fascination.
@@zucan100 I agree with you as well..for the the most part at least. I don't find the story of Desiree running into Lisa Marie at Target too hard to believe. It's possible. I ran into Milla Jovovich at the pharmacy years ago...Patrick Stewart in the park, Hank Azaria on the street, the late Bob Saget at a restaurant..the list goes on and long..just to say it's A LOT more believable than Lucy renting a horse in Memphis and running into Elvis while he was on a horse and them riding up a hill and spending the night together with their horses tied to a tree. LOL (is that the story?)
I too have questions about the authentication of the poem and Charles Hamilton. He appraised it for 100K (about a million in today's bucks) and he was known to sell autographs.
As for the color of Elvis' suit when he visited the WH, you could be right. It was reported as purple for some reason. I have not analyzed the photos against the black cossack suit Elvis wore at the 68 Comeback Special. Thank you for letting me know of this so I can compare them.
And as for the publisher not requiring to see Lucy's diary, this isn't a big surprise. You could write a book tomorrow saying your Grandma was Elvis' secret Yoga instructor that he snuck away to stretch with in the middle of the nights for years. Even with zero evidence, some publisher would possibly print and promote it..and many would believe the story if you included a bunch of names and places that are fact checkable to have been true in that era. That's where a lot of people latch onto fiction as fact. Tell them that Sam Donaldson owned the fried chicken joint down the street back in 1967 and they fact check and see he really did...so of course your Grammy taught Elvis Yoga and used to give him a big wink and chuckle as she walked past the window of the restaurant and wagged her finger at him for eating that greasy fried chicken after a good Yoga session with her. Just make sure it was a 24hr chicken joint if you're claiming these were secret 4am yoga sessions! LOL
@@sarahbennett4653 I have all the answers.
Thank you Joe and Dary for doing this for us, your conversations are very interesting. I've never invested so much of my time in a book. The beginning of the book had me hooked. Your interviews could go on for 3 hrs. and I'd be good with that. lol I just can't get enough of this story.
I didn't know you hot a Baptismal certificate when you're baptized Catholic.I was Baptized at a few months old, but my mom and dad divorced when I was 6 months old.Ive never seen a certificate, of course I haven't seen moms divorce papers either.My srepfather when drunk was crazy and would tear up the house snd pictures etc. So it probably was part of the destruction during those years. They divorced when I was 11 thank God! He terrorized us for years.😢
I agree with Dary in regards to the use of the word ignorant. By definition it means without knowledge. In popular use it has been construed to mean idiot!😂.
thank u very interesting
This was so interesting listening to you talk to Mr Dary Matera. Thank you for this video. 🌹❤️
WoW - Love feelin the joys in this interview ! U each are such rightful positive gems & i pray there are many more interviews to come (even if the subject doesnt change) THIS is such a BLAST to watch & listen !😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊 THANK U ❤!❤!❤!❤!❤❤!❤!❤!❤!!
I agree!
Interesting
I just heard your comment about Elvis not wanting to be with a woman who had given birth. You didn't mention the fact that Billy and Jo Smith BOTH said it's true.
Yet, Elvis had been with women who had children, so...
Yes that’s what has been said by many people. And when she says in the book he would call for her ti meet him she was never pregnant at the time? Even though she has 6 children! Elvis never even knew. Doesn’t sound right to me.
I don’t think they like anyone’s opinions that don’t agree with this story
@@sarahbennett4653 That's far too logical thinking. Maybe Elvis just happened to meet up with her when she was in her first trimesters and right after she gave birth when her husbands were so supportive to let her leave town to go tour and perform.
@@sarahbennett4653si lo supo, Lucy le dijo que tenía dos hijas cuando se conocieron. Tenía a Melody y a Denise 😊.
Lo siento.
I so enjoy your interviews. I have the book and loaned it to my neighbor. Like me she loves the book. She asked me if I could order the book for her friend for Christmas 🎄. I have & it will be here in time for Christmas 👏👏I feel more Elvis fans need to read this fantastic book. Thanks Joe & Dary ...
Is there a record of Elvis saying he didn’t want to have sex with women who had children or did Priscilla just say he said it as an excuse for having affairs? I think I read somewhere that Priscilla has recently backtracked saying yes she and Elvis continued to have sex after Lisa was born just like any other married couple.
Hi joe, i'm watching this know, can you please place the link from your other page?i would love to listen to your music.
Almost done watching.. thank you Dary for this lovely conversation and for this lovely book.
Joe let Dary write that book of yours😊
Hi Gaby! Here is a link to my other channel, where i just Listed i can't help believing. ruclips.net/video/Qv5cN2sZ7nA/видео.html Welcome to the channel!
The book is certainly a well-written enjoyable book, but I view it as two separate stories--the "love story" and the "love child." If you believe in the "love story," that's fine, but it does NOT, in and of itself, PROVE the story of the "love child." It simply does not. The information in the book is "circumstantial" evidence, including the poem. Even if the handwriting experts authenticated the poem to be in Elvis' handwriting, that still does NOT prove that Desiree is (allegedly) Elvis' child.
As I've said before, I do NOT view this book as a "love story," but rather, IF true, a "SELF-INFLICTED TRAGEDY," as perpetrated by Lucy. There would be no need to debate this issue back and forth, if Lucy simply would have been FORTHRIGHT and told Elvis of their (alleged) child, but to everyone's detriment, she did not.
Then, when she finally got onboard about writing the book to prove that Desiree was Elvis' daughter, she half-stepped it by not seeking out "hard" evidence. Just because she claimed not to want any money from the estate, that still does not make her case any more credible, imo, and it is NOT EPE's responsibility to prove Lucy's and Desiree's case. As in any other lawsuit, it is not the opposing party's responsibility to prove your case. Unfortunately, Lucy failed to petition the COURT's help in establishing paternity, which, as you know, is a "legal acknowledgement of the relationship between a father and his child," and thus failed in proving her case. All the best!
Interesting take. Problem is like so many, you are projecting what you would have done if you were in Lucy's heels. Not what Lucy actually did from her own perspective, life situation, and decision making. It often frustrated me, but I also respected Lucy for sticking to her guns, however maddening..
The purpose of Are You Lonesome Tonight was not to prove that Desiree' was Elvis daughter to a legion of faceless strangers. It was to allow her daughter to know the full story of her existence. A decades long saga that Lucy could never bring herself to tell Desiree' directly - and be judged by Desiree' - since it was so deeply layered. The best way to accomplish that was via a book. That fact that Lucy eventually, after two years of nagging, agreed to allow the world to share her sweeping tale was all my doing. I can be rather persistent, and charming.
@@DaryMatera I noticed that about you Dary. Your charm does start to ooze right on out.🙂
@@vicki6070 Gruff charm. If I was your Knight in Shining Armor you'd want me to be tough on your haters.
Billy Smith, Elvis' cousin recently talked about Elvis not wanting to be w/a mother- Billy said Elvis did feel that way when he was younger, but he got over it....so- I dont know if he meant younger as in 15, or younger as in 25....
I heard Billy say that in one of his and Jo’s videos l would believe him and Jo before anyone else they where there billy and his family all moved with Elvis family and his family moved into a house that Elvis and billy knocked down on Graceland before Elvis and his family moved in Billy’s dad was overseeing all the work that was being done before they moved in Billy’s channel is very good if he doesn’t know the answer to something he says so he was with Elvis from start to finish right to his last few hrs
@@Daffy-w8isi estaba allí tanto con Elvis ❤️ que por eso ha repetido durante mucho tiempo palabra por palabra el libro de Prissy pantalones.
Incluso hay una entrevista de santo Billy Smith, hablando pestes de Elvis ❤️ con Red West y más personas donde lo dejó y permitió que lo dejarán cómo un drogadicto y pedófilo.
Estaba allí tanto que habla de las infidelidades de Elvis ❤️ a Prissy pero las de Prissy que se saben no las dice en su programa o canal.
Lo he visto y nunca habla de eso.
Billy Smith era 8 años menor que Elvis ❤️ y cuando Elvis ❤️ conoció a Lucy él era un mocoso, por lo tanto no lo sabe, pero si niega a Dixy Locky de no conocerla cuando sabemos que Elvis ❤️ tuvo algo con ella.
Pero eso es porque sabe todo 😅.
Lucy was a remarkable woman can see why Elvis loved her
@@hawaiiusa6147quién dice eso? Lo dice usted? Está investigado todo. Difamar sin pruebas al autor del libro no es bueno. O saca las pruebas y demuéstralo.
I don’t understand how anyone, at this point, has any doubts about Lucy’s story being true. Dary went out of his way to fact-check Lucy’s story & include it in the book. I’ve never seen an Elvis book with that before. Dary has brought out so many true facts that should convince most anyone that Lucy told him the truth. I totally believe & respect you Dary. God bless you 🙏
Thanks! Much appreciated.
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Really enjoyed this. Thank you both.
When did Lucy pass and what caused her death
Joe said complications from dementia. She had dementia the last couple years of her life.
2021. She had dementia. 😢❤
Love the Dary Matera talks! Too bad he only ever did one Elvis book, would like him to keep coming back. Maybe he should do another Elvis theme for his next book! One on LMP maybe?
Regarding half siblings not looking alike. It's different with half siblings, some of them can look a lot alike and others can look very different depending on who the other parents are. For instance, when i was matched by DNA to an unknown half uncle, the dna could only say how much DNA we shared but not what side of my family until he was matched with another relative. It was very confusing because this guy shared features that looked like my dad's side (German) but he turned out to be on my mom's side (British). Turns out his mother was German so thats why he looked like my German side to me! Yet my mother and aunt could tell straight away he was their father's son by odd little things like eyebrows. But all the offspring of my grandfather and grandmother all have the exact same chin, whereas this guy had a square cleft chin like my dad's german side! So it just depends on how the genes fall. Desiree looks a lot like her mother so that would skew how Elvis' features would appear compared to his child (LMP) who looked exactly like him. Happens all th time where one full sibling could look like one parent and another sibling like the other (or other relatives even). And if a half sibling takes strong traits from the non-shared parent, you wouldn't see as strong of a resemblance.
I recently had puppies from dogs same breed but different features, its amazing how some look identical to one or other parent, some look like both, huge variation in appearance! Ive seen siblings who are not twins but look like twins vs full siblings who look nothing alike. My mother was 5'11 and her full sister was only 5'5. So even full siblings can differ a lot. But especially so half siblings.
Exactly, my father had Swedish heritage, my mother had French, my siblings and I all look different. And each one of was told we looked like a great, great uncle or aunt from different sides of the family
@@epfanforever yes! Growing up it was always remarked how my sister and I looked like our dad's sisters more than my mom and our brother looked more like my mom's brother than our dad! I hate the Prince Harry paternity rumors because Harry gets his looks from the Spencer side. Two of Diana's siblings were gingers! But Charles has an unusual trumpet shaped nose and after Harry grew up you can see he has Charlie's exact nose. His resemblance to the other guy they rumor him about was an ETHNIC resemblance not a family resemblance. European stock is losing our understanding of ethnic resemblances due to the current ethnocide we are experiencing.
@sdrounder9863 I was closed minded to Lucy & Desiree when this book first came out and saw them on Donahue. Completely shut them out as being another fraud trying to get fame and money. So very happy Joe started reading this book and I have to give Joe the credit for his great reading voice and Dary for writing this Beautiful story that keeps me so enthralled that it opened up my mind to reasoning. I really dread the end.
Thus the classic humorous old saying that such a different looking child was the offspring of the milkman.
@@sdrounder9863 Many have sadly lamented over the years that Billy Joel's poor daughter took after him, dark and kind of froggy looking, and not her gorgeous blonde super modal mother Christie Brinkley. Such are the variances of genetics.
No, I want to look at the video that he sang all your lunch up tonight. The last time he was on stage 1977 he was not crying. He had sweat coming down. He couldn’t remember the song he was laughing so I think he misunderstood that he’ll have to watch it again. lol it had another show. It wasn’t that show. He’s not crying.
ruclips.net/video/imLTtAp_vOg/видео.html maybe this one?
Yeah, I watched it again lol he forgot the lines. Je was laughing. He did have like tears coming, but that was sweat that wasn’t tears and I looked everywhere that on stage that maybe it was a different concert. I can’t find it anywhere. He’s laughing when he’s singing a song and making fun of the song, I don’t know what you’re send lol but I’m not seeing him crying
@ yeah he started all very seriously and then of course he messed up and made it funny. I think he sang it and 72 as well.
@@RareElvisPhotos now the song that really gets to me when I think of them if you listen to the words, it’s just pretend because I swear when they was on the phone, she said close your eyes and just pretend or he said that one of them said that on the phone just pretend I’m with you just think that I’m with you and your mind and that’s the song I can’t get out of my mind. That’s the song I break down when I think of them too.
@@RareElvisPhotos I like the song are you lonesome tonight but when you see him on stage singing just pretend 1970 I can’t get it out of my head of them too. I just can’t and he’s singing. It was so much passion that’s a song that really really gets to me because everything he saying it’s them too and I know they said that on the phone just picture me there with you or pretend I’m with you. I know that’s in the book.
1:46:45 Can you post that pic of young desiree and elvis? MITTE TLC TCB ❤
2 children from the same family don’t necessarily have to look a like
My sisters always kidded me that I didn’t look like anyone in the family.
Yes 100% watching those paternity court shows sometimes the kid doesn’t look like his dad at all which made the boyfriend/husband doubt in the first place but then it turns out the kid is his child. Dna is a funny thing, you can’t determine anything by just looks.
I would like to see pictures of Lucy. I don’t know when she was a teenager, maybe 20 and her 20s but I don’t really know if she had a lot of pictures taken over herself because of that guy so I don’t know if they have any.
Joyce Bova was also in DC.
Enjoyed this interview very much, so interesting.
I think the whole Joyce Bova abortion wasn't E not wanting to be with a mother. I think she made that decision because she didn't completely trust E and was concerned about her career.
Could be. I’m gonna read her book pretty soon. I have it waiting in line.
Re darys comment about losing a woman, Joe has said he lost his son.
I've seen the video of Elvis crying during the song Are you lonesome tonight? Elvis was very emotional and cried very easily.
I’m not a Priscilla fan after watching your videos! I think Elvis may have said that he would never make love to a woman who was a mother because he didn’t love Priscilla anymore and just didn’t want to make love to her anymore.
When Elvis came home to Tupelo to visit the old home place, he would wear a disguise and had an old beat up van he drove into town.
That’s pretty amazing. Where did you hear this from?
Would Linda Thompson or David Foster know more? I do love that Tarzan movie! After listening to a Charlie Hodge interview, he mentioned that Elvis had bought a black Transam for Wendy Miller because she didn't want a big car! As I mentioned before he said Elvis would go off on his his own and drive around Memphis. He also said that Elvis never wore a disguise in his life, why would he say that! There was a movie made about Elvis and Nixon, I'll try and watch that.
You're right it was to cover up her running around with Elvis
I believe you are referring to Mindi Miller (not Wendy) and it was a white TransAm, not black.
Сколько написано книг об Элвисе , у каждого своё мнение . Ни кто не знал Элвиса из всех приближённых внутри себя Элвис был одинок.
Ahora no se está hablando de Prissy pantalones, es la historia de amor de Elvis ❤️ y Lucy. Pero en eso tienes razón nadie sabe nada de Elvis ❤️ realmente, sólo él pero algunas personas se creen que si lo saben todo sobre Elvis ❤️ 😅
Joe pertaining to Priscilla having an affair with Mike Stone..I saw an interview with Red West ralking about this..Red said when Elvis found out about he went mad. Elvis told Red "He wanted Mike killed and asked Red if he would do"? Of course Red told him no,but when Elvis calmed down,Red asked him if he was serious about Mike Stone? Elvis told him "Just forget about it." Elvis didn't understand why Priscilla would leave him, especially for someone that didn't have any money. This was all said by Red in this interview..So i dont think Elvis took it so lightly that Priscilla was with another man..To bring up another point.. Talking about Elvis wouldn't have anything to do with a woman that had children and what a woman's body could look like .If it was possible that Priscillas body changed and that was a turn off for Elvis.When Lucy met him she already had two children,then four then six..I am almost positive her body had to change..Fact is Elvis told Priscilla when she was seven months pregnant,they should seperate..I think for Elvis it was to much for him looking at her being pregnant..Some men get a little turned off...Did Elvis love Lucy,i think he did because Lucy saw the man not the entertainer.. That's what he always wanted..Did he love Priscilla? I think he loved her but didn't respect her...I am definitely not a Priscilla fan, She brought to much grief and harm to him..Thank you and God Bless .MITTE always..
I would like to see a few good photos of "the man."
Elvis did have romances which are not as well known or discussed. For example, Betty Goodwin or Goodman. An early year girlfriend in 55'. He gave her a Triumph car, ring, fur coat. She was in a car crash. She was buried in the fur coat. Tommy Van Sandt introduced them. They met in Alabama and she actually moved to Memphis.
A Triumph? Little British two seater sports car that leaked oil. Death trap. Probably a convertible. I had one. Poor Betty.
@@DaryMateraIkr. It was a TR3. She hit the pilar of a bridge in Memphis
Don’t know if I believe everything this man says .?…..
What name did Lucy lable her fashions? Maybe people have some of her clothing! There are so many second hand stores all over the country. I do believe this and want to help prove it to the Elvis world to go on record as truth.
I agree with Dary - people are being ignorant. I had the guy who runs the British podcast "Elvis Ultimate Fan Channel" tell me that Desiree is not Elvis' daughter after I suggested he talk to her. Then when I asked him for proof that he was so sure, he started being condescending. I told him that Desiree is Elvis' daughter. After reading Lucy's book I have no doubt. Also, Joyce does say in her book that he was in DC then went to LA and came back.
Enjoyed this so much today. Great conversation back and forth. Thank you both.. ❤Joe I always watch to the end❤
Young Desiree looks like Doll Mansell.
Wasn’t Priscilla dating Julio Iglesias? …. One of many!!!
Yes. In the summer of 1981, I believe.
The MM was paid by Mr Vernon by check every week. I read that.
Yes I’m catholic that’s true
I don’t think they’re gonna let anything come out about Lucy. You got to remember that people are living in a fantasy world. I guess I was one of them about Elvis and Priscilla and that’s how they make their money so anything about Lucy this Elvis states going to deny to this day And nothing will become of it. It would be nice if this was made into a movie now I don’t know if they’re allowed to. It’s kind of weird I mean it’s like did they own Elvis forever?
I love Dary!! He's so cool. Are you sure hes not from Tennesse?? Lol With his country slang
Close. North Carolina. I'm a country boy at heart.
@DaryMatera I really enjoyed the video and I can definitely tell you are a country boy. I died laughing when you said sloppy seconds. We used to say that when I was a teenager. 😂
@@jillkolbe You can take the boy out of the country, but you can't take the country out of the boy. Same with Elvis. My mom was from a tiny town in North Carolina. Tobacco farmers. (Aka nicotine drug dealers. ) My dad was from an Italian Immigrant family in New York. Major contrast. And I grew up in Thailand and the Philippines. How's that for some crazy nurturing? Where are you from? Live now? Are you a Crazy B....like Buckcherry sings? Have you ever destroyed a cheating boyfriend's fancy four wheel drive?
Sir, how old is Desiree Presley now? Thank you
Well, she was born in 58 so that would make her 66?
@ Thank you sir. I’m just now watching the rest of this video and I’m very intrigued with the information about Lucy and I believe Desiree is Elvis’ child. When I first heard it, I admit I was an unbeliever. Now with all the evidence and listening to you read Lucy’s book I’m believing her story. I live in Texas and I’ve always loved Elvis Presley! 🤣🌹❤️🌹❤️
I believe PP made up the story of Elvis not wanting her anymore because she was a mother was to exonerate herself from her cheating. Good excuse and it makes him look unreasonable and weird. She was trying to look like a martyr and victimlike. Unbelievable that she was so manipulative even back then.
@ Very plausible explanation too. We know whatever her reasons were it was to make her look good and Elvis seem like the bad person. Narcissistic personality with no sympathy or compassion as we’ve witnessed with the suits against poor Lisa Maria and her children. Very sad 😢
How tall was Elvis and what size were his shoes? I’ve always wanted to know for sure. Curious !!
It's interesting how Elvis embraced his 3 little brothers living with him after the army.
If he had married Lucy after the army he would have been a father to 3 little girls at similar ages to his brothers. He woyld have been great with them too!
@@lovenothate111 i feel the same way!
Great point. Elvis might still be alive if that had happened.
I have seen pics of the black book that Dary is talking about. He's telling the truth.
It was in an official Elvis Presley touring museum.
@@DaryMatera Is Lucy's number in it?
@@supowell1 Not under the name Lucy.
A lot of young girls kept diaries l myself when young always had one but some wrote there fantasy’s in them believing them to be true it was what they wanted to be true
@@Daffy-w8i Rare when one keeps it going into their teenage and adult years.
Anche Linda Thompson ha scritto questa cosa delle donne mamme nel suo libro!!
Some of the comments in Elvis groups are unbelievable, they have closed minds and are obsessed, I mean they don't believe Elvis loved Lucy because of a colour of his suit!
So, there's a recent frenzy about the old claim that Lucy De Barbin had a 24 year affair with Elvis, resulting in a love child known as Desiree Presley. This is because Rare Elvis Photo's (REP's) dredged up the old book, Are You Lonesome Tonight and had the author (Dary Matera) on his channel, defending Lucy's claims and going so far as to state that Lucy knew information only someone in the position that Lucy claims to have been in, would know. REP's seems to have fallen hook line and sinker for Lucy's story and is defending the book from any criticism. One of the claims made by Lucy in the book, is that she met Elvis in Washington, just prior to him meeting Nixon and that Elvis was wearing a purple velvet suit with a reversable cape for the occasion. Matera claims to have told Lucy that the suit was black as far as he knew and that if she were wrong about this aspect, they would be in trouble and basically, the book may not stand up to scrutiny (paraphrasing). Matera claims that after research, he found that Lucy was correct and that the suit was purple - some books do claim the suit was purple, including Goldman's Elvis. However, we know that people like to make Elvis seem much large than life and often in ways that try him embarrass him or make him look weird. Well, Elvis's outfit wasn't a suit, he wore his black Cossack two piece, from his early Vegas residency and the jacket was the BLACK velvet jacket from the 68 Special. I have had this confirmed via email from BK enterprises, who own Bill Belew designs and of course Bill designed Elvis's costumes for the 68 special - INCLUDING the black velvet jacket he wore for the Guitar Man/Trouble medley. I doubt Matera or REP's will accept the FACTS but see below. Interesting to not that Matera stated that if Lucy's claim about the 'suit' were found to be incorrect - he would have 'fluffed it' or 'not included it in the book'? He wouldn't have questioned her? Well, no one can now, but, not purple, not a suit, no cape - just the 68 Special Black Velvet jacket designed by Bill Belew, draped over his shoulders!
De Barbin's claim of 'seeing' Elvis, just before he met Nixon is..............
Can no one answer this question: why did the people who saw Elvis in the White House that day say Elvis had on purple? Why would they say he did if he didn't? What would be their motive? The White House Historical Association says Elvis had on purple. Jack Anderson, who broke the story, said he had on purple. Again, someone please tell me why the aides in the White House and those who saw Elvis eating in the White House mess are lying?
You are totally incorrect about the outfit Elvis wore. The issue and color was settled long ago by those who saw Elvis at the White House - including government officials in the Nixon administration. No part of it was black. Sorry. Different outfit.
@@DaryMatera Thank you for clearing that up. But if you read it again, I was quoting from a facebook post. I believe Lucy, I read her book in 1989. Elvis deserves better. These groups don't believe Lucy, who came across as a sincere and truthful lady, but they rally around Mindi Miller who does not. Says it all, don't you think.
@@jackdoe4632 Some Elvis fans tend to be a quizzical group. Cult like following. They think they are protecting his legacy, but from what? Are You Lonesome Tonight was a glowing and tender portrayal of the troubled King. It came out on the heeds of Albert Goldman's massive hit piece that tore Elvis to shreds unlike anything ever written before. Even the Presley Estate, after fighting me tooth and nail, changed their tune after Are You Lonesome Tonight came out, and Desiree' never filed a legal claim.
@@DaryMatera Priscilla, they are protecting Elvis from Priscilla's machinations and lies. But as you say, it has become a cult and extends way beyond that, idol worship! Many of them need to get a life.
I don't think Elvis compared Lucy to anyone, period! She was in a seperate category all of her own. So I don't think it matters what Elvis thought of this girl, or that girl. Or didn't want a woman who had kids, Lucy wasn't in any of those equations. Lucy was not Priscilla or anyone else. Lucy couldn't do anything wrong in Elvis's eyes. She was his one true love. Lucy could have had 20 kids and Elvis would have still wanted her!! This is the sweetest love affair that ever existed. I feel so sad for Lucy and Elvis. Desiree too.
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Totally agree 💯
Excellent take.
@DaryMatera Thank you! It's so sad
@@tammylynne4 What's even sadder is watching The King cry on stage while singing Are You Lonesome Tonight in one of his last ever concerts. I'm sure it's on You Tube somewhere.
Ask him if Elvis told John o.grady if someone named Desiree called to put the call through...
She was on the list O'Grady created after the incident.
@@ccat148 Apparently Lucy, aka Desiree', was the only name Elvis dropped when wired up on the lie detector. Apparently he felt if he didn't mention his big lifetime secret love the needle would jump off the page, indicating that he wasn't being truthful.
Was there even a lie detector? Well, they did things in a big way! Lol ! Poor ELVIS who is no longer there to defend himself / TLC /
@@poussin4665 Defend himself from what?
Of all these incredible stories that are told about him /TLC / Best regards /
Love This and Dary! Very good conversation❤️
Once again a fantastic interview !! I always enjoy this ! I believe in Lucy's story 100 %.Thank you Dary and Joe !! ❤
Sorry i forgot to thank Dary.. Thank you very much. Loved the conversation.
It is wild that Lucy knew his outfit when Elvis saw President Nixon was purple- she was spot on. Also, Elvis went to his mothers grave alone- he did go places alone at times.
Elvis wearing the purple suit was public knowledge and written and printed in the Washington Post newspaper on Thursday, Jan. 27, 1972. This article was written by Jack Anderson 15 years before the book was released. The newspaper had over 1/2 a million daily readers at that time and would have been printed by other papers following that article. Not wild at all that Lucy and millions of others knew that Elvis' suit he wore to meet President Nixon was purple.
@@zucan100 Read the Washington Post article. It clearly states it was purple. Dark purple would look black in the black and white photos we see. From the 1972 article: "Resplendent in purple suit and cloak, with a gold belt buckle and amber sunglasses, he sashayed through the door."
@@zucan100 I believe the "official" photos are all black and white like the ones you can order from the national archives. The color ones appear to be colorized/ enhanced and vary greatly between Nixon's necktie being a purple-blue to avocado green. The national news reports stated it was purple,15 years before the book came out.
@@zucan100 I'm not defending Lucy's story and I'm aware the news story of Elvis meeting Nixon came out 13 months after they met. As I mentioned, the color photos have been altered/colorized. What is the argument here and why? You believe the suit was black and that's it? Where is the color photo available in the national archives? Please feel free to share the link to the "official" color photo from the "official" credible source if you have it and can prove it, and if this detail is important enough to keep discussing. Sorry if I'm missing the point and how any of it is relevant to the story...other than the timeline being off..with so many other things.
@@KatMandew0 So many subsequent books mentioned that the outfit was black. I showed them to Lucy and she was unbending that it was purple. If she didn't see it, how would she know which reports were the truth? People like Zucan100 in this thread insist to this day it was black, and rip on the book based upon their own ignorance. Lucy never read Jack Anderson's column in Texas. Washington Post has never been popular in Texas.
Yes if you don't have a birth certificate you can still use a certificate from your Catholic I'm not Catholic but I googled it and that's what it says You can still use the Catholic thing no disrespect to the Catholics please don't take this the wrong way
Called a Baptismal Certificate, and it's an accepted legal document.
My mother in law wasn't Catholic,she was Baptist and came from a very poor background, was born at home. When she was in her 80's something happened, I don't remember what but she needed a birth certificate, my sister in law was beside herself trying to get one. Finally she went to the church where she was Baptised when she was 11yrs and it was accepted and she was able to obtain her certificate.
@@epfanforever Churches of many denominations had legal power in this regard because so many births weren't officially filed. Carried out by midwives in the birthing mother's home. You see this a lot in old cowboys movies.
@DaryMatera So true, TN. was a very poor state before TVA came into existence and brought power & water to outlying areas, so many births were at home.
@@epfanforever Same for Louisiana and much of the south.
Well I want to hear what Lisa Maries husband has to say about that meeting. Maybe the look Lisa gave her was a look of disgust. How are you to know what she was thinking. Did she say when she saw her “ there’s the girl who says she’s Elvis‘s other daughter. She looks just like him or just like me.” no I don’t think so. We don’t know she was . There’s so many stories out there, but none of us are ever gonna know the truth about. I just want to enjoy Elvis, his music and movies without all these stories that will never know our true or not
Sandy, let's cherish the memory of beloved ELVIS and RESPECT the Man and his work, which some people who express themselves do less and less! ELVIS = LOVE and ABNEGATION / Best regards / TLC/ Lucette!
@@poussin4665señora Lucy, mucho amor por Elvis ❤ pero no ridículez. Los bebés no nacen sólo en el matrimonio.
señora Lucy, en memoria de Elvis ❤️ respete a sus nietas primero porque no lo habéis hecho. Respete a la madre de su primera hija, Lucy y el verdadero amor de su vida, aunque le ponga a usted celosa más que otra cosa.
Usted deja a Elvis ❤️ por los comentarios que veo suyos como que estaba enamorado de su propia madre y que lo único que no podía hacer con ella era acostarse con ella.
Eso es asqueroso señora Lucy.
I would like to know if the both of you think Deborah is also Elvis’s daughter?
I havent dipped into it enough but i have talked to her. I am of the opinion that it truly doesnt matter who your folks are- its what you do or did with your life and if you were kind and loving. I do think anyone who is a child out of marriage and isnt recognized truly suffers and the estate has not made it easy to verify
I've always thought it was just an excuse, "not sleeping with Prissy due to having a baby" that Elvis came up with without putting much thought to it knowing Prissy couldn't change the situation, she was a mom. He just didn't want Prissy. Elvis could have all the company he wanted away from home. BUT when he was at home for weeks due to not working and wanted "company" and she was there WILLING for the taking, he would have had her. Normal human thing. Prissy will never admit it but she knows humans at her age, he just didn't want HER. He just had NO idea the world would be dissecting his life for 50 or more years. He never could have imagined today's flat world due to the internet. I don't think it crossed his mind we'd all hear about the flimsy excuse he came up with. And WHY would Prissy repeat that to the world. She's an idiot.
Billy Smith insists that the only plastic surgery Elvis had was his nostrils narrowed earlier in his career and his eyes done later in his career. But just changing a nose can change the way the rest of the face looks. But also children only get half their looks from the father. Priscilla and Lucy don’t look anything alike to me.
I agreed. It’s really hard to know what Elvis had done here and there.
I need to double-check, but through the years, he had more than his nose done. Elvis didn't like the way his nostrils flared out is why is why he had the nose done❤
No, Billy commented on the face lift in one video. E was asking if noticed anything different? No. 🤣 E got mad. Told Billy not to tell anyone, but then Elvis goes around telling everyone 😂😂
@ccat148 I have been looking for the video where Billy said that. 😊 ty wasn't around the time E started wearing thicker side burns to hide the scars?
@@ccat148Billy told that story not too long ago😂😂😂