Hi nik. Garden looking good mate and that new bed awesome! My advice is to wait until autumn October November before transplanting them roses. Unpotting roses from pots that size is not easy. No matter what method you use. Chances are the soil and rootball will split in half etc. when planting. And with lovely growth already shining you know the rest of the story. So my advice is to wait until they are asleep. But that new bed is looking great. Just try and grab an xtra 12” of grass. You won’t regret it :)
I think you're right about leaving the potted roses as they are until the autumn - it's the safest thing to do. Do you mean taking the bed another foot wider away from the path - it's about 4 ft 6 inches now? It's difficult guessing how wide to make it when you haven't got roses in growth. I was thinking myself that maybe an extra bit of depth might let me put in a zig-zag planting of smaller roses - or give larger bushes elbow room. It still needs more compost and work to try to break up the lumpy, heavy clay here. I was gutted about that Abraham Darby bud - as you know, it's one of my very favourites and it's been hanging there for weeks full of tantalising promise waiting to explode into colour - and now it's not. I keep noticing a squirrel chomping away at the base of camelllia buds that have fallen or that he has pulled off, so maybe he tried the rose but discarded it as less tasty halfway through? Anyway, it's getting exciting for us all now with all those buds coming out - and for me, with so many new roses (which may or may not be as labelled and which may delight or disappoint) I'll find out how lucky I have been with my guesses about which roses I'll like.
@@nikkonch hi nik yes I have been in a similar position to you in the past, if you recall I left my new bed empty for last summer for that reason. The matter I have in my pots is also pretty heavy, JI3 and top soil etc so difficult to extract in one piece. Not impossible, but risky. Once the new growth starts the roses are awake and disturbing the rootball in my experience puts the clock back. But I know some experts will disagree with me here. My sweet honey I moved too late, growth had already started I think it was January when moved. But it was too late. The growth this year whilst not going into shock as dramatically as yours, the growth is sluggish. I should have dug up and moved prior to that new growth starting. Yes your new bed, I meant just try and make as big as possible less grass and more soil. :) regarding clay, personally I’m within the camp that says roses love clay. So long as you have drainage going on via the bottom. Best of luck with how you go about it but I’m sure it will look fab. ;)
That Montana is stunning and your Blush Noisette is going to have so many blooms. I can understand your dilemma regarding your potted roses for the new bed. Us gardeners are always wanting to get things planted but sometimes it's best to wait for a bit.
Hi Wendy, it's difficult being patient when - just maybe - you could go ahead planting and it might turn out OK (and make your garden tidier). But I will wait. I have mowed the lawn for the first time this year - that must be the latest ever, but it's been so soggy and muddy that this was my first chance. Now, is it warm enough to make my wife happy by planting the 26 tomato plants on the kitchen floor into their big final pots outside? Yes, the Blush Noisette is good value - she keeps on producing tons of flowers during the season - and looks great. A few good days of gardening weather now, so a chance to catch up on neglected jobs.
@@nikkonch So pleased to hear that you've been able to get your grass cut. I did mine a couple of weeks ago and it was hard work. Still looks awful and I think I'm going to have to re-sow some areas. I know I've not helped things by walking on it. Been the worst start to the year rain wise that I can ever remember. Hope we're not going to be moaning in a couple of months when it gets too hot! I can imagine your wife being pleased to have her kitchen floor back. I've got plants in my lounge of all places. It's the only room that gets enough light and if I can see them, it reminds me to water them. Have a great week Nik.
Hi Nik, a stunning Montana ! Yes I think that rose is Eyes For You, looks exactly the same as mine, the leaves too. It does have a great perfume and it's very healthy for me here, the blooms last a long time and it repeats well. I bought mine in a sale at the garden centre, one of those 'can't not buy that for that price' haha it was about £5 I think but I'm so glad I got it as it's a beautiful rose. Shame about Abraham Darby bud that is very frustrating. The new bed will be great. I think you are wise to wait a while now they are all actively growing in their pots, just in case they have an issue with it and they all look so happy and healthy. Your garden is looking really good, the roses will be blooming soon, take care 🌹
Thanks for the confirmation of my guess, Soulgirl. Although I didn't ask for Eyes For You it has been far in advance of the other roses in terms of production, even than the other roses which were snugly protected along with it in the greenhouse over the winter. It is not my favourite sort of rose, but it does brighten the garden up, and if it's early to flower and prolific with long-lasting fragrant blooms it will earn its place in the garden. Working on that new bed a bit today it seems |I will need another 6 months to get it fit for planting anyway! It looks smooth in the video but the turf was just turned over in heavy sodden clay slabs and then covered lightly, and the slabs are still solid, wet and full of roots a month later - maybe the dry weather will help me. Yes, I will wait until next autumn before planting those roses, and there are other climbing roses I was planning to put in the bed along the fence, but that bed will also need digging out, so I have well over a dozen roses in pots which I was hoping to have in the ground by now. At least I will be able to judge better which roses should go where when I have seen them flower. I am getting excited, as no doubt are you, with buds forming on roses left, right and centre, as well as other flowers appearing. I was pleasantly surprised today to discover a Golden Celebration bloom which had sneakily opened up under the cover of some of its foliage - it's nice to have some positive surprises to counterbalance the negative surprises! I'm pretty sure I saw some swallows flying around today as well! It looks like we will have a few days of really good weather this week, so we can get out there and sort our gardens out.
@@nikkonch Hi Nik, sounds like you have a bit of work to do but I'm sure it will be worth it. The positives are coming now and hopefully the weather is brightening up for us. Yes I spotted swallows at the weekend, always a good sign ! You can really plan your new bed now, take your time and watch your roses develop, it will be lovely. We have cows in the field at the back to the right of us again so I think summer is coming at last :) Enjoy your garden, take care.
Hi nik. Garden looking good mate and that new bed awesome!
My advice is to wait until autumn October November before transplanting them roses. Unpotting roses from pots that size is not easy. No matter what method you use. Chances are the soil and rootball will split in half etc. when planting. And with lovely growth already shining you know the rest of the story. So my advice is to wait until they are asleep. But that new bed is looking great. Just try and grab an xtra 12” of grass. You won’t regret it :)
I think you're right about leaving the potted roses as they are until the autumn - it's the safest thing to do. Do you mean taking the bed another foot wider away from the path - it's about 4 ft 6 inches now? It's difficult guessing how wide to make it when you haven't got roses in growth. I was thinking myself that maybe an extra bit of depth might let me put in a zig-zag planting of smaller roses - or give larger bushes elbow room. It still needs more compost and work to try to break up the lumpy, heavy clay here. I was gutted about that Abraham Darby bud - as you know, it's one of my very favourites and it's been hanging there for weeks full of tantalising promise waiting to explode into colour - and now it's not. I keep noticing a squirrel chomping away at the base of camelllia buds that have fallen or that he has pulled off, so maybe he tried the rose but discarded it as less tasty halfway through? Anyway, it's getting exciting for us all now with all those buds coming out - and for me, with so many new roses (which may or may not be as labelled and which may delight or disappoint) I'll find out how lucky I have been with my guesses about which roses I'll like.
@@nikkonch hi nik yes I have been in a similar position to you in the past, if you recall I left my new bed empty for last summer for that reason. The matter I have in my pots is also pretty heavy, JI3 and top soil etc so difficult to extract in one piece. Not impossible, but risky. Once the new growth starts the roses are awake and disturbing the rootball in my experience puts the clock back. But I know some experts will disagree with me here. My sweet honey I moved too late, growth had already started I think it was January when moved. But it was too late. The growth this year whilst not going into shock as dramatically as yours, the growth is sluggish. I should have dug up and moved prior to that new growth starting.
Yes your new bed, I meant just try and make as big as possible less grass and more soil. :) regarding clay, personally I’m within the camp that says roses love clay. So long as you have drainage going on via the bottom. Best of luck with how you go about it but I’m sure it will look fab. ;)
That Montana is stunning and your Blush Noisette is going to have so many blooms. I can understand your dilemma regarding your potted roses for the new bed. Us gardeners are always wanting to get things planted but sometimes it's best to wait for a bit.
Hi Wendy, it's difficult being patient when - just maybe - you could go ahead planting and it might turn out OK (and make your garden tidier). But I will wait. I have mowed the lawn for the first time this year - that must be the latest ever, but it's been so soggy and muddy that this was my first chance. Now, is it warm enough to make my wife happy by planting the 26 tomato plants on the kitchen floor into their big final pots outside? Yes, the Blush Noisette is good value - she keeps on producing tons of flowers during the season - and looks great. A few good days of gardening weather now, so a chance to catch up on neglected jobs.
@@nikkonch So pleased to hear that you've been able to get your grass cut. I did mine a couple of weeks ago and it was hard work. Still looks awful and I think I'm going to have to re-sow some areas. I know I've not helped things by walking on it. Been the worst start to the year rain wise that I can ever remember. Hope we're not going to be moaning in a couple of months when it gets too hot! I can imagine your wife being pleased to have her kitchen floor back. I've got plants in my lounge of all places. It's the only room that gets enough light and if I can see them, it reminds me to water them. Have a great week Nik.
Hi Nik, a stunning Montana ! Yes I think that rose is Eyes For You, looks exactly the same as mine, the leaves too. It does have a great perfume and it's very healthy for me here, the blooms last a long time and it repeats well. I bought mine in a sale at the garden centre, one of those 'can't not buy that for that price' haha it was about £5 I think but I'm so glad I got it as it's a beautiful rose. Shame about Abraham Darby bud that is very frustrating. The new bed will be great. I think you are wise to wait a while now they are all actively growing in their pots, just in case they have an issue with it and they all look so happy and healthy. Your garden is looking really good, the roses will be blooming soon, take care 🌹
Thanks for the confirmation of my guess, Soulgirl. Although I didn't ask for Eyes For You it has been far in advance of the other roses in terms of production, even than the other roses which were snugly protected along with it in the greenhouse over the winter. It is not my favourite sort of rose, but it does brighten the garden up, and if it's early to flower and prolific with long-lasting fragrant blooms it will earn its place in the garden. Working on that new bed a bit today it seems |I will need another 6 months to get it fit for planting anyway! It looks smooth in the video but the turf was just turned over in heavy sodden clay slabs and then covered lightly, and the slabs are still solid, wet and full of roots a month later - maybe the dry weather will help me. Yes, I will wait until next autumn before planting those roses, and there are other climbing roses I was planning to put in the bed along the fence, but that bed will also need digging out, so I have well over a dozen roses in pots which I was hoping to have in the ground by now. At least I will be able to judge better which roses should go where when I have seen them flower. I am getting excited, as no doubt are you, with buds forming on roses left, right and centre, as well as other flowers appearing. I was pleasantly surprised today to discover a Golden Celebration bloom which had sneakily opened up under the cover of some of its foliage - it's nice to have some positive surprises to counterbalance the negative surprises! I'm pretty sure I saw some swallows flying around today as well! It looks like we will have a few days of really good weather this week, so we can get out there and sort our gardens out.
@@nikkonch Hi Nik, sounds like you have a bit of work to do but I'm sure it will be worth it. The positives are coming now and hopefully the weather is brightening up for us. Yes I spotted swallows at the weekend, always a good sign ! You can really plan your new bed now, take your time and watch your roses develop, it will be lovely. We have cows in the field at the back to the right of us again so I think summer is coming at last :) Enjoy your garden, take care.
Sorry - it's early May, not March.