I'm in the process of changing to a Ryzen 3950x RTX2080ti build after 2 decades+ of being a Mac user ( it won't be a hackintosh, don't need the hassle ) can't wait to finally be able to get my teeth into some high end graphic rendering. No way was I going to spend £6K on a basic Mac Pro when I can get something faster with decent graphics for half the price. No idea what Apple are even thinking with this new machine to be honest ( if it's ever released ) I mean, the base model has an AMD Radeon Pro 580X for crying out loud, it's like some kind of dumb joke for people with more money than sense.
Want to see hactintosh with Threadripper 3990x (64 cores and 128 threads) and dual Radeon 7 cards and 256gb of ecc memory. That would directly compete to Apple latest Mac Pro 2019. And it would be a beast.!! All in a DUNE case(mac pro like) with everything watercooled.
@watermelon1111111 It's announced by amd and coming in early 2020 TR 3990x with 64 cores and 128 threads and with Mac OS in it. It would be a MONSTER... 😈
I wouldn't even have bothered with the 3900x. The 3950x adds less than 10% cost for 30% more performance. But i guess the 3950x wasn't even released when they build that thing.
@@lauracollins1366 en théorie oui (en théorie) car les plus gros threadripper peuvent gerer jusqu'a 2TB de ram .. le truc c'est que aucune CM en Tr4 n'a suffisamment de slot pour accueillir autant de mémoire .. a voir si les sTR4 (ou TRX40 ) le proposeront sachant qu'il supporte la memoire ECC .. la vrai question c'est plutot qui (meme chez les "professionnels ") à besoin de 1.5TB de ram .. ? en plus le pire c'est que la version High-end du mac pro équipé d'un Xeon W-3175x ne supporte que 512go de ram .. lol
@@WouterMedia I'm still waiting for mine to arrive. Early new year hopefully as they ran out of the CPU. It's for a data science pc so I wanted the best components for number crunching. I just moved from using OSX for the last 15 years. I'm so excited. I forgot how geeky I was until I had to pick every component in this. FRACTAL MESHIFY S2 BLACKOUT TEMPERED GLASS AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16 Core CPU (3.5GHz-4.7GHz/73MB CACHE/AM4) Gigabyte X570 GAMING X: ATX (USB 3.2 Gen 1, PCIe 4.0) - RGB Ready! 64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB) 4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 SUPER - HDMI 1TB CORSAIR MP600 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 4950MB/R, 4250MB/W) CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead) Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD) WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0 MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
iMessage, FaceTime and Siri work perfectly fine, you just have to setup your SMBIOS info correctly. Now the real things that do not work is native virtualization for things like Docker for Mac and latest VMWare Fusion and Parallels. You can use an older version of them to make it work but its not ideal. My system is a Ryzen 7 3700x, MSI X570 mobo with Radeon VII.
That's why I have 0 idea what all of this Mac Pro hype is over. Who on god's green earth wants to have an Intel workstation when AMD is launching 32 and 64 core CPU's that demolish that 28 core Xeon?
@Julien Lindauer Sure, but it should be priced appropriately when you can throw together or even order a PC with like a 3950x or 3970x that costs less than even the base Mac Pro but delivers infinitely better performance than a fully spec'ed out Mac Pro with the 28 core Xeon. And if you're wanting a machine with 0 concern for price, then you even have the 64 core 3990x that makes the Mac Pro look like a punch line.
@Julien Lindauer yes, and a decent number of Mac users use them in thier home offices. I've worked with more than a few that went the hackintosh route because the iMac pro wasn't what they wanted and for the money the old garbage can wasn't worth the cost. Apple has a pro market they have been ignoring for years now.
@@nadtz The ryzenshine cost $4,375. And gives you 1331 score on Geekbench 5, while the 2019 imac 5k (not even the pro) gives you 1258 points for $2.699, so in cost/benefits you are losing a lot, sure in multicore the diference is higher but you are paying 40% more. Also, with the imac you get a 5k 27" display, one of the best displays in the world included. To you ryzeshine add the cost of one good 27" 5k monitor, you will be at more than the double of the cost of the Imac, and you wont get the double of performance in any test.
Sounds like a quote from Gman in Half Life. Rise and shine, Mister Freeman.
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@@enzorocha2977 "Rise and shine, Mister Freeman - rise and... shine. (...) So wake up, Mister Freeman... wake up and smell the ashes." This is reference to one of most famous video games ever ;)
I'm pretty sure macOS currently actually crashes if it finds more than 63 threads which means anything higher than a 32-core TR (with one core disabled) won't work, unfortunately. However the 64-core version isn't even out so far anyway.
@@CoffeeD_1 Probably only if Apple decides to use anything that actually has more than 28 cores, as that's currently the highest core count they ship with the new Mac Pro. Knowing Apple, I doubt that will happen as they barely refresh the Mac Pro to begin with and the chance of them actually switching to AMD processors is slim enough as it is, let alone the chance of them using Threadrippers.
@@luciascarlet " let alone the chance of them using Threadrippers." If Apple switches to AMD then Threadripper is only way to go because Ryzen doesn't have the features needed for the Mac Pro (mainly the massive amount of PCIe lanes).
@@antonczerwinske5910 Yeah I know, but Nike just does it better, I found that video annoying. I love how his camera was found out by 4 chan users though, even though 4 chan users are pieces of shit.
@McBossBrine if Apple were to make the move to a objectively better chip set, then the industry would be forced to move with it, ie removal of the headphone jack and the boom of Bluetooth audio devices. I Strongly believe the same can be said that if they were to move to an epyc based system/threadripper system, that either at the same time as launch or quickly following such software would be patched optimising performance. But even without software optimisation nearly all bench marks show an advantage to AMD cpu's.
@@connordarcy712 Apple does not have the same influence in the computer market as they do in the phone market. Literally no one with a PC cares what Mac is doing.
Really interested in how well an AMD Ryzen Hack performs in audio/music production, where REALTIME cpu performance (mainly single core performance) is utterly important,which is not really the case for video applications.
@Alex real time cpu performance is for recording live instruments and or vocals in studio production. The real time latency is most important for studio recording so there isn't a delay in what your recording/playing and the sound coming threw the computer monitor or headphones.
@Alex yes...the analog to digital converters in your audio interface has its own latency and then the computer has to put that information threw a DAW(digital audio workstation) and whatever effect plugins that may be used to enhance that signal, then computer sends that all back threw the audio interface to the monitors or headphones. Most audio programs for music production also rely on single core speed and are yet to spread the workload out to all cores efficiently. I use the i9-9900k for the IPC/clock speed at 5.0ghz. Hopefully with driver updates for multi core processor we can see future music production programs utilizing multiple cores efficiently. I believe 16core/32 is the limit outside of a program DAW named Reaper.
@Alex lol...sounds like latency is a pain to us both....I read that ARM based processors are not far away from giving us a new architecture to take latency and clock speed to much higher specs that with RISC base chips that are needing high power and producing alot of heat. Do you have any thoughts on that future direction?
I'm building mine right now with the 3950x, once I get it working I'll try to make a video showing how well it will perform and how is the latency when using large projects with multiple virtual instruments. I'm still a bit skeptical If's going to be just as stable as my macbook is...we'll see.
Uhhh.... Wanna try out for the new Threadrippers instead of the 3950x. Or even better, wait for the 64 core threadripper and build the ultimate 2020 hackintosh pro. I just want to see, as an AMD fan, how far can they kick Intel’s arse even with a top end Mac that may or may not cost more than a tesla cybertruck.
You can fix iMessage and facetime and icloud!!!! Just make sure your ethernet is set to en0 in system preferences! If not, delete the preferences.plist and network.plist
@@ramanmehat3971 The OP of this thread said that the issues are fixable to make them work. And yes, Apple use Intel which means they have to secure their OS too, there's too much to go into here on that, do some research if you're interested :)
@@ramanmehat3971 The application of the specific type of vulnerability that @promethbastard is addressing is being overstated. Don't worry about it. Just keep your security updates up to date, use an ad blocker of some sort, and stay away from sketchy software.
I'd love to see this with a threadripper. The other thing I'd love to see would be this thing running a super thin host OS, and running MacOS in a virtual machine (on threadripper). It would be amazing to be able to run Linux (or windows I suppose) alongside MacOS at the same time (and be able to provision each machine with as much power and ram as you need at that moment). Pretty please!
Amazing build considering that it was your first time custom liquid cooling. I also finished my first build recently and I spent almost an entire day bending tubes.
Apple customers: We want something like a PC! Apple: Here you go - ever so slightly overengineered (but yas queen so fleek). That'll be $2.5 Bajillion. Do you want some RAM as well?
@@77dris To me, an iMac is a very good monitor glued to hardware that will sooner rather than later become obsolete - with "glued" being the operative word. We'll be lucky if Apple let us keep upgrading the memory on these things. The PC I built I can modify to my heart's content. Every single component is an off the shelf part. So what does Apple do when they almost break character in order to give us a computer with internal expandability? They make the computer equivalent of a Gucci bag. Apple thinks anyone not being James Cameron only need a laptop or a Mac Mini.
Seeing this makes me want to try and do a miniaturised version of this. I’m hoping the wifi card on the ASRock itx/tb3 x570 isn’t impossible to change if it’s not MacOS compatible... because everyone knows what itx can be like LOL
Seeing ryzen support in Hackintosh's makes me happy, It was a pain getting it to work with my i7 4770 a long time ago, but hey seeing it still going, on AMD of all things, this is Just great.
Most Apple "sheep" know they pay apple a 20-30% premium for convenience and they're fine with that. Some people calls an electrician to change a lightbulb, so its fare that some "sheep" buy a computer that they're gonna use for work for 3-6 years so they don't want have to write over a bios just to save a one week worth of income.
So did you get Thunderbolt working with this Hackintosh??? Most builds I see don't have TB3 working. If you figured it out, i'm def building my own Hackintosh sooner than later.
Hey Quinn, really inspiring video, but it's important to let viewers know that in addition to the things you mentioned that don't work, there are a couple other big issues: 1) no power management with AMD CPUs. 2) though thunderbolt 3 is on the motherboard, there is no current evidence that it works under macOS. In your video, you didn't show any examples of a thunderbolt 3 device actually operating. Does thunderbolt 3 work reliably on this rig? Can you demonstrate it connected to a thunderbolt 3 device that shows it moving data at full 40GB/s bandwidth? Thanks!
40gb/s data moving? there are not such a thing... he is showing one of The fastest ssd in the world... (AMD only) PCI gen 4 NVMe M.2 SSD and u can see the result of the copy and write numbers, 4gb/s. how to test 40gb/s data moving while ur main ssd can go up to 4gb/s.
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@@flushroyal970 That SSD is doing 4 GB/second, not 4 Gb/second. Bytes vs bits. 32 Gb/second isn't shabby.
@ Exactly. Gb vs GB. They're two different measures. And there are many ways this can be demonstrated - show us a working 5K display, or two working 4K displays or a Thunderbolt 3 RAID transferring data at full bandwidth and is completely stable. If Snazzy Labs can demonstrate this then I'll believe AMD Thunderbolt 3 works but they haven't in this video. And so far there's no evidence inside the large AMD Hackintosh Reddit community of *anyone* having it working. So I'm simply asking Quinn and @Snazzy Labs to show us some proof. Just because the motherboard has the ports doesn't mean they work reliably. ;)
And be faster than the top model in CPU workloads! You could also add another graphics cards with money to spare for the price of the mac pro monitor stand.
Good luck to them. They are armed with all white "camo" uniforms, anti riot shields that break when you look at them too hard and guns that only have one "button" and it's for reloading. If you want them to actually shoot, you have to press a veeeery specific spot on the button. And of course... they have no reloading port, it needs a dongle
Here's an acid test for you: Run Logic Pro X with as many plugins as possible before it hiccups. Also, is there an AMD chip that can match or beat the Intel Xeon 28 core?
@@kahuna1247 Don't forget that he says those things to an audience that will or will not spend their money on Apple products.
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I am also an anti-apple apple fan. I used to be pro apple, but they keep making shit. I still love them, but we're divorced. I am cheating with a AMD hackintosh
U then realized it wasn't because he has no clue how to build a computer... If he did hed get the 64 core Threadripper chip for 8k or since he doesn't have connections with anyone in the industry (hes a noob) then he can just get the 32 core one. Either way the Mac Pro is using Server grade 20,000 dollar chips where as U can get a chip that costs 8k and get more then double the PHYSICAL CORES for cheaper. Yet he didn't point this out instead he wasted 4k on a machine that is made for those wanna be pro sumers that never really get anywhere with regards to the business there trying to blow life into.
@@adriancruz88 +1 I have a Ryzen system as well. But I need to run xcode AND android studio at once, my current solution is cloud/vm for xcode and its either slow or expensive. This would definitely help a lot
How does Ryzen play with Final Cut Pro vs something like a 16" MacBook Pro? One of the main reasons to make a Hackintosh is to use Final Cut Pro which you can't use on Windows.
16" macbook pro is a laptop , this is a PC ... macbook 15" could't keep the base clock of the cpu while rendering bcuz of cooling... 16" looks better than cooling but aint much... 16" can go up to* 3 ghz on all the 8 cores while rendering ... this pc can run atleast 4ghz on her 12cores like forever.... to sum up... this pc can and will double* the performance of the 16" mac
Flush Royal the key point is how does Final Cut Pro perform on an AMD part compared to windows and apple optimization. From all previous reports, Final Cut Pro actually doesn’t do too well on amd CPUs.
@@SuprUsrStan i got ut point but some video applications are core speed based(adobe pr etc) some applications are thred based(cinema 4d , blender etc)... if apple is not being apple(adding bug to amd systems) Zen 2 must work better bcuz amd system has the all the advantages, core and clock...
SuprPwrUsr final cut is moving towards gpu rendering. As more stress is placed on graphics cards, the cpu won’t matter. Also davinci resolve is just as fast if not faster than final cut in a lot of places now and it’s cross platform. Final cuts one advantage of fast renders and fast timeline scrubbing is quickly becoming a moot point.
Thanks, Quinn! This just puts the nail in the coffin on any perspective other than Apple is just there to increase it's profit margins rather than market share. I've always used AMD products over Intel in my tinkering builds, and now seeing that a Ryzen Hackentosh can crush anything currently out...makes me so happy to see. Thank you, again! This build SCREAMS! Any excuse for more AMD HACKENTOSHES is super okay by me.
xtreamchance Where is the Dell, Lenovo, Microsoft, etc. equivalent? Why single out Apple for not buying off-the-shelf components and cobble together an unreliable screamer? Build-your-own-fast PC for cheap has been a thing since PC compatibles were invented in the mid-1980s. Yes it’s fun. But comparing it to a fully supported product from a manufacturer is unfair.
@@alliejr I assure u that the Dell equivalent to this model will not be costing $8000 and should still be a lot less for more performance even if a little more. Yes, . It will be more than the completed build here though. Edit: u can build something similar for around $400 difference for Ibuypower, that's roughly the custom build cost over DIY for black friday. Good and bad though, support by PC is done with our own sweat and blood. Each part has its own manufacturers warranty. If one part busts we can get warranty replacement. The fact that i don't have to wait a 2-4 week appointment slot, then see that whiny robot Apple care's face and wait in line for hours is actually a relief.
Jyrone MAC OS runs on my HP laptop, that doesn’t have an AMD GPU, was just a challenge to get it working under Virtualbox, Mojave was easier than Catalina.
You don’t need an AMD gpu to run Mojave. That’s only if you want graphics acceleration (which you do). You can install High Sierra if you have an Nvidia gpu and have full graphics acceleration.
Well they kind of were before they started using x86 based CPU's. Just like the CPU's in the PS3 and XBOX360 were different than the ones found in ordinary desktops.
@Static Charge Red Field Is that a joke? You said there's nothing you can personalize on them. They're based on BSD unix you moron. You can literally customize EVERYTHING on them. I didn't think it was necessary to point out the obviousness of your idiocy, but apparently you're just that stupid.
If you go that route you might as well use DaVinci Resolve on Linux. It's better to just do some homework and run the OS that's best optimised for the workload.
A lot of missinformation: - you can have imessage working with ethernet too - sidecar wont work on ryzentosh builds, as its missing the chip that drives it
@@Grimir once you actually use a calculator , or even reading the minimum and maximum powers each components withdraw, 1200W is the bare minimum power supply you dont take in mind the massive power consumption on the 3900x and the not one but TWO vega 64's and one thing people miss, the water cooling KIT. yeah.
a word of warning though for people trying to run parallels on a hackintosh, there is no support for AMD-v. Vbox is fine but doesnt use the native hypervisor framework. Also there is no way to use a egpu or a 2nd gpu for that matter with a virtual machine. better to go down the qemu/libvirt route then.
I saw vanilla AMD mentioned but didn't think any of it. I was hoping you'll do a longterm Ryzen Hackintosh review too. It would be awesome for us hardcore macOS fans.
Exactly, that's still a problem on AMD Hackintoshes, together with virtualization. No mention how thunderbolt works too. So as much as I like current AMD offering, still it's not on par with Intel. Performance wise yes, but compatibility? Nope.
@@DarkPa1adin CS6 will obviously not work as it's 32 bit and Catalina runs only 64 bit apps. CS6 is pretty old if you ask me. If you don't want Adobe CC, maybe you should try Affinity Photo.
iMessage, Siri and FaceTime can actually work on Ryzen if you set the networking adapter as built-in. I used to have it on Mojave and the only reason I don't currently have it on Catalina on my own 3900X machine is because I couldn't be bothered to set it to built-in.
Oh i'm definitely gonna want to see that 3950x in there
@Michael Zavala That would be a whole new build though requiring a new motherboard, water block, and new tube runs.
@Michael Zavala wait for the 3990x
yessir
I'm in the process of changing to a Ryzen 3950x RTX2080ti build after 2 decades+ of being a Mac user ( it won't be a hackintosh, don't need the hassle ) can't wait to finally be able to get my teeth into some high end graphic rendering. No way was I going to spend £6K on a basic Mac Pro when I can get something faster with decent graphics for half the price.
No idea what Apple are even thinking with this new machine to be honest ( if it's ever released ) I mean, the base model has an AMD Radeon Pro 580X for crying out loud, it's like some kind of dumb joke for people with more money than sense.
@@billB101 lol the radeon pro 580x isn't even as powerful as an rx 580
"Oh i'm definitely gonna want to see that 3950x in there"
Same here!
... and you might as well change your WiFi card whilst your at it :p
Why settle for 4 more cores when you can have 12 more cores? or wait until January for the 64 core thread ripper.
"Ryzen Shine"
Best name I have ever heard!
How about Mac the ripper, using a thread ripper processor!
@@brandonhoffman4712 You mean Mac' N Cheese ripper?
;)
explooooosion
@@akumabear lol u watched that vid too? 😂
Should use Kylie Jenner as bootup chime :P
Want to see hactintosh with Threadripper 3990x (64 cores and 128 threads) and dual Radeon 7 cards and 256gb of ecc memory. That would directly compete to Apple latest Mac Pro 2019. And it would be a beast.!!
All in a DUNE case(mac pro like) with everything watercooled.
Me too... please make that video
Right a $10,000 thread ripper build vs a $50,000 p.o.s. mac slo
Dune ain't out yet though.
@watermelon1111111 It's announced by amd and coming in early 2020 TR 3990x with 64 cores and 128 threads and with Mac OS in it. It would be a MONSTER... 😈
@@gjdud12 It's out bro for $199..
10:48 of course everyone wanted you to do a follow up
I wouldn't even have bothered with the 3900x. The 3950x adds less than 10% cost for 30% more performance. But i guess the 3950x wasn't even released when they build that thing.
I want a follow up too
@@Psi-Storm it's also hard to get ahold of when within 10 mins of a new stock they go out of stock again.
wrg, not, doesnt matter
Apple: we have put the greatest 28 core intel Xeon.
AMD: hold my 64 core epyc
In January:
"Hold my 64-core threadripper" -AMD
@@RSBickAKaby actually ryzen trheadtripper is 32 core
But it has 64 thread
Does threadripper support 1.5TB I thought only the Epyc supported that much
@@lauracollins1366 en théorie oui (en théorie) car les plus gros threadripper peuvent gerer jusqu'a 2TB de ram .. le truc c'est que aucune CM en Tr4 n'a suffisamment de slot pour accueillir autant de mémoire .. a voir si les sTR4 (ou TRX40 ) le proposeront sachant qu'il supporte la memoire ECC .. la vrai question c'est plutot qui (meme chez les "professionnels ") à besoin de 1.5TB de ram .. ? en plus le pire c'est que la version High-end du mac pro équipé d'un Xeon W-3175x ne supporte que 512go de ram .. lol
Dangit, I went frame by frame at 7:14 hoping that white flash had something fun hidden in it.
I went at 0.25x only to find nothing!
Insert Skyrim transition here....
It's a flash embedded by the CIA to take a clear, neutral photo of the viewer using the front facing camera on your phone or webcam on your computer.
Andrew Hart lel sure
WTF that's strange
"Oh i'm definitely gonna want to see that 3950x in there"
I just bought a 3950x. So I am definitely interested in this.
Rah K Me too, with the 5700XT, excited for this to work
@@WouterMedia I'm still waiting for mine to arrive. Early new year hopefully as they ran out of the CPU. It's for a data science pc so I wanted the best components for number crunching. I just moved from using OSX for the last 15 years. I'm so excited. I forgot how geeky I was until I had to pick every component in this.
FRACTAL MESHIFY S2 BLACKOUT TEMPERED GLASS
AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 16 Core CPU (3.5GHz-4.7GHz/73MB CACHE/AM4)
Gigabyte X570 GAMING X: ATX (USB 3.2 Gen 1, PCIe 4.0) - RGB Ready!
64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 3200MHz (4 x 16GB) 4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 SUPER - HDMI
1TB CORSAIR MP600 GEN 4 PCIe NVMe (up to 4950MB/R, 4250MB/W)
CORSAIR 750W RMx SERIES™ MODULAR 80 PLUS® GOLD, ULTRA QUIET
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Corsair H115i RGB PLATINUM Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler STANDARD THERMAL PASTE FOR SUFFICIENT COOLING ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD) WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD + BT 5.0 MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
@@ArrKayLondon I think you need to upgrade to RTX 3070 series
Never came
iMessage, FaceTime and Siri work perfectly fine, you just have to setup your SMBIOS info correctly. Now the real things that do not work is native virtualization for things like Docker for Mac and latest VMWare Fusion and Parallels. You can use an older version of them to make it work but its not ideal. My system is a Ryzen 7 3700x, MSI X570 mobo with Radeon VII.
Henry Brock so how do you send the right
@@blakeok952 you take the right and send it.
@@blakeok952 I'm confused with the question. Send the right what?
@@henrybrock8787 I think they meant how to you set the SMBIOS correctly to get them to work? But that's just a guess.
no docker would be a deal-breaker for me. :/
Ryzenshine, Mister Freeman. Ryz-en-shine.
I read that in his voice...
NICE 😂
I’m here to check on the Mac Pro review. Where is it?
Wake up, and smell the aaaasssheess...
b00ndocks
Do the 3950x hackintosh!
Or better yet, a threadripper hackintosh? 🙊
agreed
Yeah, how about the Threadripper 2970X with 32 cores and 64 THREADS? xD
Agreed !! Thread ripper !!
Why stop there Intel is using their best server silicon, use a 64 core Epyc.
@@bdhale34 Um........it's not yet released to retailers ATM?
That's why I have 0 idea what all of this Mac Pro hype is over. Who on god's green earth wants to have an Intel workstation when AMD is launching 32 and 64 core CPU's that demolish that 28 core Xeon?
@Julien Lindauer Sure, but it should be priced appropriately when you can throw together or even order a PC with like a 3950x or 3970x that costs less than even the base Mac Pro but delivers infinitely better performance than a fully spec'ed out Mac Pro with the 28 core Xeon. And if you're wanting a machine with 0 concern for price, then you even have the 64 core 3990x that makes the Mac Pro look like a punch line.
Cause apple sheeple love overpaying for apple stuff.
@Julien Lindauer You say that like companies and studios aren't made up of... people...
@Julien Lindauer yes, and a decent number of Mac users use them in thier home offices. I've worked with more than a few that went the hackintosh route because the iMac pro wasn't what they wanted and for the money the old garbage can wasn't worth the cost. Apple has a pro market they have been ignoring for years now.
@@nadtz The ryzenshine cost $4,375. And gives you 1331 score on Geekbench 5, while the 2019 imac 5k (not even the pro) gives you 1258 points for $2.699, so in cost/benefits you are losing a lot, sure in multicore the diference is higher but you are paying 40% more. Also, with the imac you get a 5k 27" display, one of the best displays in the world included. To you ryzeshine add the cost of one good 27" 5k monitor, you will be at more than the double of the cost of the Imac, and you wont get the double of performance in any test.
RYZen Shine. The perfect name!!!
Rise and shine, I only just got that XD
Ugh...not for me. It's lame and corny. But you do you.
Badam tsk
Sounds like a quote from Gman in Half Life.
Rise and shine, Mister Freeman.
@@enzorocha2977 "Rise and shine, Mister Freeman - rise and... shine. (...) So wake up, Mister Freeman... wake up and smell the ashes."
This is reference to one of most famous video games ever ;)
These videos are why they didn't send you a pre-release mac pro 😂😂
he obviously doesn't need one, he can get a cheese grater at walmart
OR, they didn't get a pre-release Mac Pro and were like: "Fine, we'll do it ourselves..."
He didn’t even compare it with the Mac Pro
@@sm7085 why bother? it's guaranteed to be better
@@natalieisagirlnow i know but it's in the title so one would assume so.
How about a threadripper build with some of their insane cpus?
I'm pretty sure macOS currently actually crashes if it finds more than 63 threads which means anything higher than a 32-core TR (with one core disabled) won't work, unfortunately. However the 64-core version isn't even out so far anyway.
defi well that’s definitely interesting. Hope more threads are supported in the future
@@CoffeeD_1 Probably only if Apple decides to use anything that actually has more than 28 cores, as that's currently the highest core count they ship with the new Mac Pro. Knowing Apple, I doubt that will happen as they barely refresh the Mac Pro to begin with and the chance of them actually switching to AMD processors is slim enough as it is, let alone the chance of them using Threadrippers.
@@luciascarlet " let alone the chance of them using Threadrippers." If Apple switches to AMD then Threadripper is only way to go because Ryzen doesn't have the features needed for the Mac Pro (mainly the massive amount of PCIe lanes).
defi the 32 core one has 64 threads via hyper threading
I would love to see one with a 64 core Threadripper! It should destroy the 28 core intel Xeon in the Mac Pro.
They just did a comparison - the £4,000 3990x was 50% faster than 2 £10,000 28 core xeons!!!
@@NewLondonMarshall where can i see the comparison?
@@zack88005 If you search for 3990x vs 2x 28 core xeons there should be a few videos on it :)
@@NewLondonMarshall And the Mac pro only has one. You need something like a HP Z6 or 8 to get two.
@@Phunker1 Yeah exactly! I have a 3970x and my goodness it's fast!
In the words of Shia LaBeouf: "DO IT, JUST DO IT!"(3950x)
What i dont understand, is why 3950x and not 3970x? Or even wait for 3990x?
That was Nike who said that!
@@karserasl 3950x is the highest processor on AM4, 3970x is TRX40.
@@testthisfordecficiencies look it up, you should know it
@@antonczerwinske5910 Yeah I know, but Nike just does it better, I found that video annoying. I love how his camera was found out by 4 chan users though, even though 4 chan users are pieces of shit.
Put the highest end Thread-ripper CPU in and show Intel whose boss.
Nah. Slam in a dual socket EPYC 7742 board and DECIMATE the top spec Mac Pro at a lower price.
Than i would wait a bit. I think, they announced a 3990WX with 64 Cores for January.
@@p3chv0gel22 legit though, the configuration on the mac pro is a joke due to them ignoring just how amazing AMD chips have become.
@McBossBrine if Apple were to make the move to a objectively better chip set, then the industry would be forced to move with it, ie removal of the headphone jack and the boom of Bluetooth audio devices. I Strongly believe the same can be said that if they were to move to an epyc based system/threadripper system, that either at the same time as launch or quickly following such software would be patched optimising performance. But even without software optimisation nearly all bench marks show an advantage to AMD cpu's.
@@connordarcy712 Apple does not have the same influence in the computer market as they do in the phone market. Literally no one with a PC cares what Mac is doing.
I love how you put "0 Apple event attended" in your website.
Good catch. 😜
Really interested in how well an AMD Ryzen Hack performs in audio/music production, where REALTIME cpu performance (mainly single core performance) is utterly important,which is not really the case for video applications.
@Alex real time cpu performance is for recording live instruments and or vocals in studio production. The real time latency is most important for studio recording so there isn't a delay in what your recording/playing and the sound coming threw the computer monitor or headphones.
@Alex yes...the analog to digital converters in your audio interface has its own latency and then the computer has to put that information threw a DAW(digital audio workstation) and whatever effect plugins that may be used to enhance that signal, then computer sends that all back threw the audio interface to the monitors or headphones. Most audio programs for music production also rely on single core speed and are yet to spread the workload out to all cores efficiently. I use the i9-9900k for the IPC/clock speed at 5.0ghz. Hopefully with driver updates for multi core processor we can see future music production programs utilizing multiple cores efficiently. I believe 16core/32 is the limit outside of a program DAW named Reaper.
@Alex lol...sounds like latency is a pain to us both....I read that ARM based processors are not far away from giving us a new architecture to take latency and clock speed to much higher specs that with RISC base chips that are needing high power and producing alot of heat. Do you have any thoughts on that future direction?
I'm building mine right now with the 3950x, once I get it working I'll try to make a video showing how well it will perform and how is the latency when using large projects with multiple virtual instruments. I'm still a bit skeptical If's going to be just as stable as my macbook is...we'll see.
@@pandaghostofficial That's great, thx in advance !
Uhhh....
Wanna try out for the new Threadrippers instead of the 3950x.
Or even better, wait for the 64 core threadripper and build the ultimate 2020 hackintosh pro.
I just want to see, as an AMD fan, how far can they kick Intel’s arse even with a top end Mac that may or may not cost more than a tesla cybertruck.
YES! I want to see an Ryzenshined Threadripper 3990X Hackintosh Pro
There are a few videos on that, it does work :)
Team red for CPU and if sometime next year I can get and rx 5700 xt or something close to it all team red.
It'll cream the new Mac Pro 28 core model.
@@CheapBastard1988 considering the 32 already does it might be faster then 2 of the top end mac pros...
You can fix iMessage and facetime and icloud!!!!
Just make sure your ethernet is set to en0 in system preferences!
If not, delete the preferences.plist and network.plist
@@ramanmehat3971 Would it be better to create an intel Hacintosh? - Depends, do you like paying more and having more security vulnerabilities?
@@ramanmehat3971 The OP of this thread said that the issues are fixable to make them work. And yes, Apple use Intel which means they have to secure their OS too, there's too much to go into here on that, do some research if you're interested :)
@@ramanmehat3971 The application of the specific type of vulnerability that @promethbastard is addressing is being overstated. Don't worry about it. Just keep your security updates up to date, use an ad blocker of some sort, and stay away from sketchy software.
@@whereismylife Are updates on hackintosh as simple as leave updates in automatic or they need to be manually updated with some hacking effort?
"speaking of W A S D, you will need none of those keys to go to hoStinger..."
was just looking for this comment
Unless you count the "s", the only capitalized letter in the name...
"Ryzen Shine" , Damn the phrase
I'd love to see this with a threadripper.
The other thing I'd love to see would be this thing running a super thin host OS, and running MacOS in a virtual machine (on threadripper).
It would be amazing to be able to run Linux (or windows I suppose) alongside MacOS at the same time (and be able to provision each machine with as much power and ram as you need at that moment).
Pretty please!
Linus Tech Tips actually did exactly that!
Unraid is decent about that. It’s super nifty. :)
Stephen WIDJAJA you act like it’s all about CPU performance.
@@godofbiscuitssf in workstations it is all about cpu performance, if it wasn't why would Apple bother with Xeons?
Kyle why would you be able to outfit it with two dual GPU modules that give you 56 TFLOPS? Some A.I. work is integer but most is float or half-float.
Skip the 3950x, go directly to 3rd gen Threadripper 3970x
Geoff Seeley or the upcoming 3990x in the future😉
Skip those TR, wait for the zen 3 4990x.
Kos T. Zen 8 9990x
@@diegoamorim7924 Zen Quantum InfinityX
He's testing the 3950x on that machine, the TR 3970x does not work on that computer, he has to build a new one.
I love Spanish accent Quinn's "como..." lol
can we get an assembled one online?
It is not legal to sell pirated software
no
Check out this channel : TechNolli
@@rohanch1786 why
probably not but if it was it would not come with the macos software
Amazing build considering that it was your first time custom liquid cooling. I also finished my first build recently and I spent almost an entire day bending tubes.
Put a 3950X in it!! XD
You forgot to put the Apple logo on the case, that's why it only costs 4000$
He easily could have used some apple stickers
One TURBOWPOWER that’s sarcasm
Lol
@@nasiridrishi2956 LOL
I was thinking it would be worth it if it costs less than $2k. No iMessage or FaceTime because it's not a real Mac. Can it install updates?
Would love to see a follow up with the 3950x!!
Apple customers: We want something like a PC!
Apple: Here you go - ever so slightly overengineered (but yas queen so fleek). That'll be $2.5 Bajillion. Do you want some RAM as well?
I built PCs for 15 years, and got an iMac 4 years ago. I do NOT want something like a PC.
@@77dris To me, an iMac is a very good monitor glued to hardware that will sooner rather than later become obsolete - with "glued" being the operative word. We'll be lucky if Apple let us keep upgrading the memory on these things. The PC I built I can modify to my heart's content. Every single component is an off the shelf part. So what does Apple do when they almost break character in order to give us a computer with internal expandability? They make the computer equivalent of a Gucci bag. Apple thinks anyone not being James Cameron only need a laptop or a Mac Mini.
It’s actually a good deal tho. Outside the base model.
@@77dris You got overpriced hardware that runs OSX. A PC that runs OSX is the deal !
Everyone! You can preorder now. Please someone get that beautiful monitor and compare it to lg 5k and dell 8K
Seeing this makes me want to try and do a miniaturised version of this. I’m hoping the wifi card on the ASRock itx/tb3 x570 isn’t impossible to change if it’s not MacOS compatible... because everyone knows what itx can be like LOL
Nice work. Does Thunderbolt run reliably and full speed?
wait for 3990x then update it. also maybe do a multi os setup
Seeing ryzen support in Hackintosh's makes me happy, It was a pain getting it to work with my i7 4770 a long time ago, but hey seeing it still going, on AMD of all things, this is Just great.
Finally, a mac user that's not biased on apple products...
Most Apple "sheep" know they pay apple a 20-30% premium for convenience and they're fine with that. Some people calls an electrician to change a lightbulb, so its fare that some "sheep" buy a computer that they're gonna use for work for 3-6 years so they don't want have to write over a bios just to save a one week worth of income.
So did you get Thunderbolt working with this Hackintosh??? Most builds I see don't have TB3 working. If you figured it out, i'm def building my own Hackintosh sooner than later.
Make a 350$ - 550$ Hackintosh with 2019 specs
Find videos with any Ryzen build at that price. Done.
With ryzen specs. 2700x which is dirt cheap now, and rx590 or the new 5500xt/5700
@@Jdmonealp 2700x isn't as good as the 3000 series. Major improvements.
I would pay someone to build this for me
@@ThatDarnGenius Hit me up and I can make it happen
Hey Quinn, really inspiring video, but it's important to let viewers know that in addition to the things you mentioned that don't work, there are a couple other big issues: 1) no power management with AMD CPUs. 2) though thunderbolt 3 is on the motherboard, there is no current evidence that it works under macOS. In your video, you didn't show any examples of a thunderbolt 3 device actually operating. Does thunderbolt 3 work reliably on this rig? Can you demonstrate it connected to a thunderbolt 3 device that shows it moving data at full 40GB/s bandwidth? Thanks!
40gb/s data moving? there are not such a thing... he is showing one of The fastest ssd in the world... (AMD only) PCI gen 4 NVMe M.2 SSD and u can see the result of the copy and write numbers, 4gb/s. how to test 40gb/s data moving while ur main ssd can go up to 4gb/s.
@@flushroyal970 That SSD is doing 4 GB/second, not 4 Gb/second. Bytes vs bits. 32 Gb/second isn't shabby.
@ Exactly. Gb vs GB. They're two different measures. And there are many ways this can be demonstrated - show us a working 5K display, or two working 4K displays or a Thunderbolt 3 RAID transferring data at full bandwidth and is completely stable. If Snazzy Labs can demonstrate this then I'll believe AMD Thunderbolt 3 works but they haven't in this video. And so far there's no evidence inside the large AMD Hackintosh Reddit community of *anyone* having it working. So I'm simply asking Quinn and @Snazzy Labs to show us some proof. Just because the motherboard has the ports doesn't mean they work reliably. ;)
Would love to see the ryzen 3950x in it
Yup
Let's see that new ryzen cpu and the wireless card installed!
How about a Threadripper 3000 Hackintosh?!
Apple fans using Intel: Hey wait are CPU is much more powerful it's a Pro CPU.
So is the Threadripper and it's cheaper to get.
Delain124 what the hell you saying
Fun fact: Even with a 32 core new Threadripper and two Vega VII cards and 128 GB RAM, the PC would be cheaper as the base Mac Pro...
And be faster than the top model in CPU workloads! You could also add another graphics cards with money to spare for the price of the mac pro monitor stand.
Or a Ryzen 3950x with 4x 2080ti and 64GB RAM if you were going the Windows 10 route i.e.a killer Graphcs GPU rendering machine.
And have PCI version 4 to boot.
@@CheapBastard1988 or build a second render computer to work even faster while videos are rendering
@@billB101 I think nvidia graphics card are not supported out of the box, only time i have seen it work is through a linux virtual machine
I like anything that makes me feel like I'm at a strip club.
An RGB strip club? 😂
@@HunterGeophysicsAustralia thats gonna cost you 2k to enter sir
I like computer strip clubs 🤖
Funny how most people won’t understand why you had a Spanish accent 😂
True! haha
I thought the same thing! 😂
@@snazzy Where'd you serve? I was in Chile back around the time I'm guessing you were born. :)
why ?
I lived in Bolivia from 2012-2014 as a service missionary. :)
I would love to see this Hachintosh running the 3950x!
Hackintos? Apple dispatches death squad to your location.
Good luck to them. They are armed with all white "camo" uniforms, anti riot shields that break when you look at them too hard and guns that only have one "button" and it's for reloading. If you want them to actually shoot, you have to press a veeeery specific spot on the button. And of course... they have no reloading port, it needs a dongle
@@kiddhkane hahahahahahaaaaa. You are mean. Hehehehehe
@@truthseeker2171 Thank you!
Here's an acid test for you: Run Logic Pro X with as many plugins as possible before it hiccups. Also, is there an AMD chip that can match or beat the Intel Xeon 28 core?
Threadripper
Um 3990X 64 core...
This is making me so excited to try my own hand at this. Thank you for the quick run through and links!!!
i love how he is the most "anti-apple" apple fan
Constructive criticism
Lucas Violante he knows they can and should do better. He acknowledges with their resources they should be pushing the boundaries more.
@@RiceCubeTech Yet he still buys their products though, so it really doesn't matter. Once he hands over his money, what he says is irrelevant .
@@kahuna1247 Don't forget that he says those things to an audience that will or will not spend their money on Apple products.
I am also an anti-apple apple fan. I used to be pro apple, but they keep making shit. I still love them, but we're divorced. I am cheating with a AMD hackintosh
I thought this was a Linus Tech video when I clicked on it because of that thumbnail.
Please stop clicking Linus’ videos
same
Nah, it doesn’t have Linus with an obnoxious expression with his mouth open in it.
At least it doesn't have linuses annoying little sponsors he throws in like his stupid water bottles.
U then realized it wasn't because he has no clue how to build a computer...
If he did hed get the 64 core Threadripper chip for 8k or since he doesn't have connections with anyone in the industry (hes a noob) then he can just get the 32 core one. Either way the Mac Pro is using Server grade 20,000 dollar chips where as U can get a chip that costs 8k and get more then double the PHYSICAL CORES for cheaper.
Yet he didn't point this out instead he wasted 4k on a machine that is made for those wanna be pro sumers that never really get anywhere with regards to the business there trying to blow life into.
I love the Hackintosh videos, especially the Ryzen variants. Thanks Quinn.
Eh wait it's now possible to run mac os on ryzen?
Count me in then.
literally the only reason I was waiting to upgrade my CPU
You should join the AMD OSX discord. The people there are dedicated to AMD hackintosh
@@dwong98 what is the Discord server invite Code ?
@@adriancruz88 +1 I have a Ryzen system as well. But I need to run xcode AND android studio at once, my current solution is cloud/vm for xcode and its either slow or expensive. This would definitely help a lot
Ryuuji Takasu is there an online guide?
7:13 Wtf was that flash frame?
i want to know it too, i can't get to that frame.
It took me 10 minutes to get it, but its completely white.... what a disappointment
Thank you for your time and work
@@marcels.1713 pro tip, if you pause and tap the . and , keys it will scroll frame by frame
7:14 for me, but weird
Queue the "who says stay snazzy post". God I love AMD. That thing is a beast
How much for those Event Studio Monitors?
Where can I get the build instructions and part description for this build ?
How does Ryzen play with Final Cut Pro vs something like a 16" MacBook Pro? One of the main reasons to make a Hackintosh is to use Final Cut Pro which you can't use on Windows.
16" macbook pro is a laptop , this is a PC ... macbook 15" could't keep the base clock of the cpu while rendering bcuz of cooling... 16" looks better than cooling but aint much... 16" can go up to* 3 ghz on all the 8 cores while rendering ... this pc can run atleast 4ghz on her 12cores like forever....
to sum up... this pc can and will double* the performance of the 16" mac
Flush Royal the key point is how does Final Cut Pro perform on an AMD part compared to windows and apple optimization. From all previous reports, Final Cut Pro actually doesn’t do too well on amd CPUs.
@@SuprUsrStan i got ut point but some video applications are core speed based(adobe pr etc) some applications are thred based(cinema 4d , blender etc)... if apple is not being apple(adding bug to amd systems) Zen 2 must work better bcuz amd system has the all the advantages, core and clock...
SuprPwrUsr final cut is moving towards gpu rendering. As more stress is placed on graphics cards, the cpu won’t matter. Also davinci resolve is just as fast if not faster than final cut in a lot of places now and it’s cross platform. Final cuts one advantage of fast renders and fast timeline scrubbing is quickly becoming a moot point.
From what I’ve read on the internet it seems also that Lightroom (and maybe Photoshop?) does not work.
@GZonPC lolol. I know right?
Can you test the thunderbolt 3 ports with some audio peripherals?
I almost had a heart attack when he put in the opaque fluid. 😭
was waiting for this after that insta tease
Thanks, Quinn! This just puts the nail in the coffin on any perspective other than Apple is just there to increase it's profit margins rather than market share. I've always used AMD products over Intel in my tinkering builds, and now seeing that a Ryzen Hackentosh can crush anything currently out...makes me so happy to see. Thank you, again! This build SCREAMS! Any excuse for more AMD HACKENTOSHES is super okay by me.
xtreamchance Where is the Dell, Lenovo, Microsoft, etc. equivalent? Why single out Apple for not buying off-the-shelf components and cobble together an unreliable screamer? Build-your-own-fast PC for cheap has been a thing since PC compatibles were invented in the mid-1980s. Yes it’s fun. But comparing it to a fully supported product from a manufacturer is unfair.
@@alliejr I assure u that the Dell equivalent to this model will not be costing $8000 and should still be a lot less for more performance even if a little more. Yes, . It will be more than the completed build here though. Edit: u can build something similar for around $400 difference for Ibuypower, that's roughly the custom build cost over DIY for black friday.
Good and bad though, support by PC is done with our own sweat and blood. Each part has its own manufacturers warranty. If one part busts we can get warranty replacement. The fact that i don't have to wait a 2-4 week appointment slot, then see that whiny robot Apple care's face and wait in line for hours is actually a relief.
yeah, but does it run Adobe, Reaper, Cubase, Waves without crashing? and without needing patching?
Instead of the apple boot up sound, I want it to play Kylie Jenner saying "Rise 'n' shine"
I used to be pro-life until I read your comment.
I'd love to see an in-depth "how to install Mac on a hackintosh" video. I've tried a number of times and can't seem to ever get it to boot.
Jyrone MAC OS runs on my HP laptop, that doesn’t have an AMD GPU, was just a challenge to get it working under Virtualbox, Mojave was easier than Catalina.
You don’t need an AMD gpu to run Mojave. That’s only if you want graphics acceleration (which you do). You can install High Sierra if you have an Nvidia gpu and have full graphics acceleration.
Does Thunderbolt 3 work OOB??
why going for the 3950X, when there's the threadripper 3970X, I'm wondering how it compares to that 50K Mac pro.
1:48 Macs are PCs, personal computers. Just because they are proprietary to some degree, doesn't make it any different .
Well they kind of were before they started using x86 based CPU's. Just like the CPU's in the PS3 and XBOX360 were different than the ones found in ordinary desktops.
Static Charge Red Field smh just shut the hell up nobody cares *-*
Static Charge Red Field heh, I'm just triggered that people need to argue over a stupid operating system ._.
@Static Charge Red Field You sound very stupid.
@Static Charge Red Field Is that a joke? You said there's nothing you can personalize on them. They're based on BSD unix you moron. You can literally customize EVERYTHING on them. I didn't think it was necessary to point out the obviousness of your idiocy, but apparently you're just that stupid.
7:13 random white frame :D
the fact that you paid attention to that tells me that you must work for the CIA! good catch mate!
Excellent video- quality voice and vid! Exciting presentation= 10+
Other People : Regular Porn
Me : Hackintosh Porn
Alright im gonna do it...
"but.... can it run Crysis?"
Haha I love seeing this comment. Brings back old memories.
This guy is so proud of himself. And it SHOWS. Like someone with their pants down.
Ryzenshine support adobe suite or not for havkintosh intel or amd which one is best option
I thought we would see a comparison between this $4000 build to Mac pro 2019 base model...
That's my biggest complaint at this video.....
Why doesn’t iMessage work in your build? The Vanilla guide says that it should work?
Guess he didn't bother following the instructions for making it work.
Overflow Music well it could be related to his specific hardware. I was hoping to confirm that.
Brian Hinton the hardware shouldn’t matter, just didn’t configure his SMBIOS correctly
Seeing that large air bubble in the water block while it's running hurts my feelings
That was the distilled water, the coolant is white.
Still thinking about the 3950x? Would be great to see!
Instead of bringing Windows back to that monster, maybe just tell Derek you can get DaVinci Resolve on Mac as well! ;)
Sindri Svan and metal is more optimised than OpenCL on Windows :D
If you go that route you might as well use DaVinci Resolve on Linux. It's better to just do some homework and run the OS that's best optimised for the workload.
@@veemyu not according to bloggers' benchmarks. Only Apple seems to be the one claiming it
@@DollyRanch Links please. :)
“Speaking of W, A, S, D: you need none of those keys to go to hostinger.com” ... 🤔
''S'' Left the chat :(
well google will say "Did you mean Hostinger". So technically you don't need the s
@@fabianfeilcke7220 or description link clicking
I see him trying to compete with Linus for the best Segway. Too bad Linus is a pro.
A lot of missinformation:
- you can have imessage working with ethernet too
- sidecar wont work on ryzentosh builds, as its missing the chip that drives it
Would Duet work?
Any choice to put up a tutorial for installing the hackintosh?
please give detailed step by step installation guide and links to all the hardware. Please do this with top notch chip
why do the 3950X, when there's the threadripper 3970X, I'm wondering how it compares to that 50K Mac pro.
What was the power consumption on this beast?
I imagine the 1000W is actually a massive bottleneck
700W max.
Dariusz Sepełowski highly doubt it
@@aliawesome12fab You don't know shit
youraveragedude the 1000W is more than enough for that build
@@Grimir once you actually use a calculator , or even reading the minimum and maximum powers each components withdraw,
1200W is the bare minimum power supply
you dont take in mind the massive power consumption on the 3900x and the not one but TWO vega 64's and one thing people miss,
the water cooling KIT.
yeah.
How does the 3950X compare to the new Mac Pro in this system?
a word of warning though for people trying to run parallels on a hackintosh, there is no support for AMD-v. Vbox is fine but doesnt use the native hypervisor framework.
Also there is no way to use a egpu or a 2nd gpu for that matter with a virtual machine. better to go down the qemu/libvirt route then.
This is such a nice and clean build.
@Snazzy - love the build. Does the Thunderbolt and hot swap work?
Can you do a follow up vid about the vanilla kernel pls, we viewer need it :)
compare with 2019 mac pro
I'd like to see this build with a 3950x
I saw vanilla AMD mentioned but didn't think any of it. I was hoping you'll do a longterm Ryzen Hackintosh review too. It would be awesome for us hardcore macOS fans.
Pro Tools doesn’t work on this - I tried - and Adobe crashes
Exactly, that's still a problem on AMD Hackintoshes, together with virtualization. No mention how thunderbolt works too.
So as much as I like current AMD offering, still it's not on par with Intel. Performance wise yes, but compatibility? Nope.
AMD in general isn't that great for Pro Tools or any AAX's due to poor AVX-512 support.
is your OS catalina? my CS6 didn't work on Catalina
@Uncinematographable Screenshot Cinema Uh, it is the most important to actual professionals.
@@DarkPa1adin CS6 will obviously not work as it's 32 bit and Catalina runs only 64 bit apps. CS6 is pretty old if you ask me. If you don't want Adobe CC, maybe you should try Affinity Photo.
We are now a week later, still no real world performance test? Why is that I wonder...
Pieter Visser SERIOUSLY, he got a lot of ppls attention. Time for a lil follow up.
Love how upset you get when Apple makes dum decisions... They have lots of room for improvement...
they will piss off ... and it will be over Hackintosh (one decision).
iMessage, Siri and FaceTime can actually work on Ryzen if you set the networking adapter as built-in. I used to have it on Mojave and the only reason I don't currently have it on Catalina on my own 3900X machine is because I couldn't be bothered to set it to built-in.