I don't think so. It's already perfect as it is. Any changes they'd need to make in adapting it (including and especially the Doctor and companion) would detract from it. It needs to be a Fifth Doctor story, set soon enough after Adric's death for it to still be raw. Think about it, apart from the Twelfth, which Doctor has lost more to the Cybermen than the Fifth? Part of what makes Spare Parts such a great story is that you know that loss is eating away at the Doctor and Nyssa as they stand by and let history take its course.
Imagine how creepy the Cyber Committee would look in live action. I imagine it has pods of all 20 members that make up the gestalt mind and you just see them looking like emaciated husks with metal parts all over them, their chest pieces flashing and showing their internal organs being pumped with nutrients, their brains exposed and with wires and prods being poked in and out, the tops of their heads all connecting to a structure above the pods that look like a Cyber Planner from the Troughton era. To make them extra creepy have their eyes all follow what one member sees and their mouths all speak in unison when the Committee speaks. Really play up the body horror aspect of people being merged into a computer like entity.
@@ProfStuartHalliday I love both equally. This is more like the Cyberman slasher theme; for when they're lurking and following behind in the shadows. Space Adventure is more all-out action music! For when fighting the cybermen, or watching an army form before you. Both are amazing. Love classic Who! :D
Now *this* is how to make a villain's theme! Menacing, creepy, powerful, scary, and memorable. So many little bits and sounds in it that are fantastic and appropriate for a cyber race.
New idea for a Cyberman design: Merge the two designs starting from "The Moonbase" and "Earthshock". Have elements of "The Tenth Planet" deisgn underneath the exoskeleton - especially the face mask. The voice should sound like "The Moonbase" and "Tomb of the Cybermen". The music should be a combination of this theme with elements from the current theme, and synth motifs.
Any Old Biscuit Or alternatively, have elements of the beginning of ‘Space Invasion Part 2’ aka The Moonbase etc. , followed by the ending bits of this, then fade it back to the almost jarring and wacky sections of SPp2.
I'd prefer it if they just used the Invasion/Revenge/Earthshock silhouette - even the lamentable JW era has moved in this logical and tasteful direction.
This still sends shivers up and down my spine. The tension from Earthshock ep. 1 is in small part due to this marvellous piece of work; the way the androids focus in on the Doctor to reveal the Cybermen with the music reaching that crescendo of that bell like "dee-da-dang"...Awesome
Murray’s Theme fits the new Cybermen, who are a lot louder and more robotic. This theme fits the more unsettling, slow, and unearthly nature of the 80’s Cybermen.
How I miss the old Cybermen. Neil Gaiman really didn't fill in on his promise did he? Giving the fans back "Their Cybermen" when they were nothing else but re-skinned versions of the ones from Tennant's era. I hope that the Cybermen get a slightly more decent story in Capaldi's tenor as the Doctor and maybe a "proper" redesign by 2016 to celebrate their first time on screen.
Andrew Ford Apparently a lot of stuff was cut from the episode and the writer himself has even admitted that he wasn't happy with the finished result. I think its the BBC's fault for not allowing 2 part episodes in the latest seasons.
It's funny, the Cybermen inspired the Borg but these days the Cybermen are just clunking versions of the Borg with voices that are more tedious than threatening. Everything that was frightening about the Cybermen of the Classic Series left with the arrival of the 'Robot with a Human Brain' design of the New Series.
Stefano Pavone Are you a time traveller or can you read the writers mind because were actually getting an original Tenth Planet Cyberman story for the finale of Series 10
80s Style Cybermen were the best now they just look like robots all the past ones had something good about them and this was great when I heard it on Earthshock.
Some of the best music of the entire series! This definately gives me chills, especially during the cliffhanger for Episode 1! Destroy them! Destroy them AT ONCE!
Just as the Cyber lieutenant point his weapon at the Doctor (@ 2:50 into the track), then KILLS Ringway instead for his decieval of the Cybermen, I thought that was brilliant!!!
This was my favorite track from the Doctor Who Sound Effects Picture Disc I had. Ah, colored vinyl. Remember the silent credits at the end of Earthshock?
The Classic Cybermen may have been emotional when arrogantly spouting propaganda or getting superior but you could write scenes with dialogue that included them. Two Cybermen could talk to each other as well The New Cybermen don't even need to talk at all now because of their Web so the writers have backed themselves into a corner. They remade the Cybermen as robots and then discovered robots aren't actually scary. Being a brain in a suit of armour isn't as scary as being human with robot parts
I mean classic Doctor Who actually did that problem worse than the modern series, since by the 1970s they'd forgotten what made tge Cybermen scary in the 60s and did essentially just make them robots. The Cybermen in modern Who...well, most of the time...still tap into the message of the dangers of hyperindustrialisation that the 60s Cybermen did
@@pikachucetthesecond4296 Also, we already had the Robomen and the Daleks which did deal with the whole "brain trapped in a machine" horror before the Cybermen
I love the Earthshock Cybermen, but no. They really can’t compete with the Cybus versions. But then again, better than Cyberiad and Warriors? Hell yeah.
Someone should re-score Tomb of the Cybermen with the music from Earthshock! Imagining this music go with the 'Tomb voices just sends chills down my spine!
i might make a 5th Doctor episode using Earthshock Music (as I absoloutley love it!) It will be based with the cybermen,more information coming soon...
I spent the whole track waiting for "dun, DUN, dun, dun, duuuuun, dun", only to find out that theme isn't from the original series after all, I just assumed that because this shares a title with a track from the Series 4 Specials. Shame, I always thought that was a neat connection.
Segun Akinola's Cyberman theme evokes this heavily. As much as I like Murray Gold's Cyberman theme (different approaches for different takes on the Cybermen) Akinola's music brings back the harsh mechanical nature of them. The two best Cyberscores IMO.
In their first appearance in the reboot, all they did was march around with plastic sheeting everywhere. And since then that same friggin marching sound effect and the cyber men basically march around a lot. Hope someone really uses them to their full potential before we all become transformed. And why do they now always delete ?
It's a shame that Murray Gold never tried to combine this with his new Cybermen theme. I can't say I'm a huge fan of the classic Cybermen in terms of the way they were portrayed on screen, but that's mainly due to limitations of the TV shows of the 60's, 70's and 80's. The concept is pretty terrifying. The fact that the original Cybermen still have a semblance of emotion and actually have conversations is rather cool, even though their dialogue was incredibly dumb sometimes. Overall, I'd say I prefer the look and voices of the modern Cybermen but I much prefer the writing for the original Cybermen. Same for the Daleks.
There is much of the Cybermen's origin and past that has yet to be adequately explored, with 'Big Finish' doing a sterling job of 'audio only' productions. Cybermen used to be menacing and worth watching back in the 70's and 80's but todays Doctor Who productions 'cram it all in' comic book style in either a single or sometimes a two part story in order to entertain the masses, and as a result, fail to a large extent. I am certainly not a fan of the 'new look' Cybermen that started back in 2005, (with a nod to a 'revenge Cyberman' during the episode 'Dalek',) but with the new look Cybermen closely resembling the fritz lang 'metropolis' robot lady from the 1927 film. Even with the 'evolution' pf the Cybermen design that we have see on the screen reasonably recently trying to 'look' a bit like the designs of the 70's and 80's, the overall effect still falls far short of what many of the fans would like to see back on screen. One of the biggest 'let downs' is that of the 'metropolis' Cybermen's voices, really dreadful, weak, poorly pitched and the blue led mouth light...really necessary or just 'over egging' the cake. Hopefully we will see some sense prevail at the BBC and the Cybermen (the original Mondasians) will return, with an original and menacing storyline. We can only hope...
It's annoying they had such a forced catchphrase that made little sense when you thought about it. At the very least, "Upgrade in Progress" made a small amount of sense. Though it sounded more like an attempt to give them actual dialogue since they remained rather silent throughout the majority of the story.
@Wodanaz i did not mean literally i know all those masters so look me up synopsis of me: WHOVIAN WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING!!! and there are other terms for that sir so there I said it!
@WowbaggerGriffin You are 100% right. What they should do is reuse this music but with a more modern feel to it. That way whenever The Cybermen appear, the music will make them badass as they could posibly be.
The whole 'delete' line is just an embarrassingly transparent attempt to give them the same 'badass' image as the Daleks. When I saw Doomsday I liked it but repeat viewings just make me cringe hearing the cries of 'exterminate' and 'delete' between the rage-filled Daleks and Cybermen who now sound a printer my father owned in the nineties. And in the Silver Nightmare, their 'upgrade in progress' is just them 'adapting' like the Borg. There seems to be no original ideas left in the BBC.
used to love this particular music on the Cassette version; the tud thumping 'Cyber march' itself from 3:08-3.32 was never actually used in Earthshock, sadly, which is a shame as its quite forceful but the rest of the music was.
2:36 "So... we meet again... Doctor!"
5:01, Cyber-Leader: DESTROY THEM...DESTROY THEM AT ONCE!
Anyone think they should make "Spare Parts" into a life action episode? That would be good.
NeelyFanForever Yes with Peter Davison as the Doctor
I don't think so. It's already perfect as it is. Any changes they'd need to make in adapting it (including and especially the Doctor and companion) would detract from it.
It needs to be a Fifth Doctor story, set soon enough after Adric's death for it to still be raw.
Think about it, apart from the Twelfth, which Doctor has lost more to the Cybermen than the Fifth? Part of what makes Spare Parts such a great story is that you know that loss is eating away at the Doctor and Nyssa as they stand by and let history take its course.
i feel that as fantastic as spare parts is feel its too dark for a normal dr who episode
Most definitely! 😎✌️👏
Imagine how creepy the Cyber Committee would look in live action. I imagine it has pods of all 20 members that make up the gestalt mind and you just see them looking like emaciated husks with metal parts all over them, their chest pieces flashing and showing their internal organs being pumped with nutrients, their brains exposed and with wires and prods being poked in and out, the tops of their heads all connecting to a structure above the pods that look like a Cyber Planner from the Troughton era. To make them extra creepy have their eyes all follow what one member sees and their mouths all speak in unison when the Committee speaks. Really play up the body horror aspect of people being merged into a computer like entity.
"He has been damaged by gunfire! Order the reactivation of reinforcements!"
Bricks were shat, sofas were hidden behind, and doctors were lost- The classic Cybermen.
5:00
*DESTROY THEM! DESTROY THEM AT ONCE!*
3:08 Can't get that part out of my head. They NEED to bring this theme back.
They should
Absolutely! 😎 ✌️
It is good. But my favourite Cybertheme has to be 'Space Adventure Part 1' by Martin Slavin. Total Classic.
It's from Earthshock. I thought that was a pretty good episode all in all
@@ProfStuartHalliday I love both equally. This is more like the Cyberman slasher theme; for when they're lurking and following behind in the shadows. Space Adventure is more all-out action music! For when fighting the cybermen, or watching an army form before you. Both are amazing. Love classic Who! :D
''We meet again.............Doctor''!
it takes a while to really get going but once it does it is really eerie and creepy, a perfect theme for the proper cybermen
3:06 The part everybody came for.
This is really good. Used it in Colin Baker's Attack of the Cybermen too.
"Attack of the Cybermen" hooked me into Doctor Who, became my all time favorite show.
As Cyber leader would say..'Excellent'😬
@@DBSG1976 Attack of the Cybermen was the first classic who story I ever watched!
Terrifying I remember it well it was Colin Baker as Dr Who at the time..
Ah "Earthshock", the first story I ever saw. What a beginning! The Cybermen and the death of a companion!!! A great theme for the Cybermen!!!
"When was the last time you've smelt the flowers, or enjoyed a well-prepared meal?"
"These things are...
Irrelevant."
Now *this* is how to make a villain's theme! Menacing, creepy, powerful, scary, and memorable. So many little bits and sounds in it that are fantastic and appropriate for a cyber race.
New idea for a Cyberman design:
Merge the two designs starting from "The Moonbase" and "Earthshock".
Have elements of "The Tenth Planet" deisgn underneath the exoskeleton - especially the face mask.
The voice should sound like "The Moonbase" and "Tomb of the Cybermen".
The music should be a combination of this theme with elements from the current theme, and synth motifs.
The Invasion design is my favorite, but I like the Earthshock design too. Any new version that uses the Invasion design as a basis is cool with me.
Any Old Biscuit Or alternatively, have elements of the beginning of ‘Space Invasion Part 2’ aka The Moonbase etc. , followed by the ending bits of this, then fade it back to the almost jarring and wacky sections of SPp2.
And the design should be from REVENGE OF THE CYBERMEN not these pathetic tinfoil monstrosities.
I'd prefer it if they just used the Invasion/Revenge/Earthshock silhouette - even the lamentable JW era has moved in this logical and tasteful direction.
As long as the stompy robot stuff is gone, i'll take anything.
Music gets really freaky at 3:50 when it keeps going thump thump thump thump. chilling stuff!
Cyber heartbeat!
This still sends shivers up and down my spine. The tension from Earthshock ep. 1 is in small part due to this marvellous piece of work; the way the androids focus in on the Doctor to reveal the Cybermen with the music reaching that crescendo of that bell like "dee-da-dang"...Awesome
Although the cybermen haven't always been used very well, they've always had a great theme! The 60s 80s and 00's!
This was the best theme and the new series version is inferior. Not the Cynermen I knew in 60s - 80s.
This is genuinely unsettling. Certainly fits the Cybermen better than Murray Gold's giant cacophonies.
yeah
You go Soft then raise it. You dont go loud then soften.
Murray’s Theme fits the new Cybermen, who are a lot louder and more robotic.
This theme fits the more unsettling, slow, and unearthly nature of the 80’s Cybermen.
Gojirawars 03 exactly just perfection in my opinion
@The Doctor no, it doesn't fit them either, because the Murray Gold cybermen is just generic and doesn't express anything at all.
How I miss the old Cybermen. Neil Gaiman really didn't fill in on his promise did he? Giving the fans back "Their Cybermen" when they were nothing else but re-skinned versions of the ones from Tennant's era. I hope that the Cybermen get a slightly more decent story in Capaldi's tenor as the Doctor and maybe a "proper" redesign by 2016 to celebrate their first time on screen.
Andrew Ford Apparently a lot of stuff was cut from the episode and the writer himself has even admitted that he wasn't happy with the finished result. I think its the BBC's fault for not allowing 2 part episodes in the latest seasons.
It's funny, the Cybermen inspired the Borg but these days the Cybermen are just clunking versions of the Borg with voices that are more tedious than threatening. Everything that was frightening about the Cybermen of the Classic Series left with the arrival of the 'Robot with a Human Brain' design of the New Series.
Stefano Pavone Are you a time traveller or can you read the writers mind because were actually getting an original Tenth Planet Cyberman story for the finale of Series 10
Alas they gave us a great first episode with the Tenth Planet Cybermen and reverted them back to the clunkers in the finale ep.
Diff
My army awakes, Doctor!
80s Style Cybermen were the best now they just look like robots all the past ones had something good about them and this was great when I heard it on Earthshock.
Some of the best music of the entire series! This definately gives me chills, especially during the cliffhanger for Episode 1! Destroy them! Destroy them AT ONCE!
Best soundtrack ever in Dr Who
Just as the Cyber lieutenant point his weapon at the Doctor (@ 2:50 into the track), then KILLS Ringway instead for his decieval of the Cybermen, I thought that was brilliant!!!
3:09 - Whenever I reading/watching something and an evil villian appears this part plays in my head
Thank you for posting this. I have this still on vinyl and I loved listening to this growing up.
I love how the beginning feels like some "space race" era synthwave. Fits right in, and the marching is also a nice touch.
Very good, this theme was also used in 'Attack of the Cybermen'.
This was my favorite track from the Doctor Who Sound Effects Picture Disc I had. Ah, colored vinyl. Remember the silent credits at the end of Earthshock?
Heresy on my part, I imagine, but music like this is way more frighteningly evocative than any of Murray Gold's bombastic pretentiousness . . .
wow this kicks ass.....I really need to watch Earthshock sometime soon
A lot of this music seems to evoke the fact that the mondasians were an ancient culture, something lacking in modern cyberman depictions.
Very menacing and rather atmospheric really builds up an eerie environment
The Cybermen are the most popular monsters on Doctor Who,next to the Daleks.
The Classic Cybermen may have been emotional when arrogantly spouting propaganda or getting superior but you could write scenes with dialogue that included them. Two Cybermen could talk to each other as well
The New Cybermen don't even need to talk at all now because of their Web so the writers have backed themselves into a corner. They remade the Cybermen as robots and then discovered robots aren't actually scary. Being a brain in a suit of armour isn't as scary as being human with robot parts
eh, no
I mean classic Doctor Who actually did that problem worse than the modern series, since by the 1970s they'd forgotten what made tge Cybermen scary in the 60s and did essentially just make them robots. The Cybermen in modern Who...well, most of the time...still tap into the message of the dangers of hyperindustrialisation that the 60s Cybermen did
@@pikachucetthesecond4296 Also, we already had the Robomen and the Daleks which did deal with the whole "brain trapped in a machine" horror before the Cybermen
These old cybermen are way more badass than these new cybermen.
oh hell yeah!
absolutely not.
I love the Earthshock Cybermen, but no. They really can’t compete with the Cybus versions.
But then again, better than Cyberiad and Warriors?
Hell yeah.
@@Gojirawars03 Earthshock cybermen could easily beat age of steel cybermen I think. Age of steel cybermen seem more primitive to me
2:30 "So, we meet again... Doctor."
man, I love this music ....this was the stuff that made me want to make electronic killer robot music as a kid
Excellent! (With a David Banks Cyber fist!)
BEST WHO MUSIC EVER!!!!
Someone should re-score Tomb of the Cybermen with the music from Earthshock! Imagining this music go with the 'Tomb voices just sends chills down my spine!
Ultradalek7 Oooh no - Tomb's music is absolutely perfect in my opinion! Although the music from Earthshock was also pretty damn good!
"Excellent"
Why does the cover have a Romulan wearing Patrick Troughton's clothes? :P
3:10 the moment we’re all here for
One of the great Cybertunes!
So mysterious and epic
It's like listening to a German Prog Rock album!!
i might make a 5th Doctor episode using Earthshock Music (as I absoloutley love it!) It will be based with the cybermen,more information coming soon...
This Cyber Leader (David Banks) dripped evil every bit as well as the Master
I love how 3:06 sounds like a door breach or similar, followed by marching sounds.
Congratulations, you're being boarded and overrun.
The composer is Trent Reznor. Who might be a fan of the show, as well.
This is EXCELLENT news, I can listen to the banging choon on youtube
I mostly like Murray golds stuff, but I've never been a fan of the cyberman theme. However I do think the 60's one was best.
Excellent!
Thank you so much for posting this. :)
4:38 My army awaits, Doctor!!!
One might almost say.... EXCELLENT! 😁
Oh this is amazing! I've barely watched old Who but I'm starting to like the soundtrack better than that of NuWho!
And probably also the composer of Quake (who also seems to have been inspired by some Tristram Cary music, too)
0:00 - 0:16 sounds like Space Adventure (OG Cyberman theme)
" So, we meet again,Doctor."
Is there anywhere we can download this track from?
"My army awaits! Doctor!"
I spent the whole track waiting for "dun, DUN, dun, dun, duuuuun, dun", only to find out that theme isn't from the original series after all, I just assumed that because this shares a title with a track from the Series 4 Specials. Shame, I always thought that was a neat connection.
3:08 and onwards!!!
3:16 onwards sends shivers down the spine.
"Resistance is futile."
Segun Akinola's Cyberman theme evokes this heavily. As much as I like Murray Gold's Cyberman theme (different approaches for different takes on the Cybermen) Akinola's music brings back the harsh mechanical nature of them. The two best Cyberscores IMO.
Ben W Shut the fuck up
YOU BELONG TO UZZ...YOU SHALL BE LIKE UZZ...
In their first appearance in the reboot, all they did was march around with plastic sheeting everywhere. And since then that same friggin marching sound effect and the cyber men basically march around a lot. Hope someone really uses them to their full potential before we all become transformed. And why do they now always delete ?
Because RTD stupidly thought they needed a catch phrase like the Daleks.
@Wodanaz
Hey, I think you're spot on! Gold is a complete hack.
It's a shame that Murray Gold never tried to combine this with his new Cybermen theme.
I can't say I'm a huge fan of the classic Cybermen in terms of the way they were portrayed on screen, but that's mainly due to limitations of the TV shows of the 60's, 70's and 80's. The concept is pretty terrifying.
The fact that the original Cybermen still have a semblance of emotion and actually have conversations is rather cool, even though their dialogue was incredibly dumb sometimes.
Overall, I'd say I prefer the look and voices of the modern Cybermen but I much prefer the writing for the original Cybermen. Same for the Daleks.
There is much of the Cybermen's origin and past that has yet to be adequately explored, with 'Big Finish' doing a sterling job of 'audio only' productions. Cybermen used to be menacing and worth watching back in the 70's and 80's but todays Doctor Who productions 'cram it all in' comic book style in either a single or sometimes a two part story in order to entertain the masses, and as a result, fail to a large extent. I am certainly not a fan of the 'new look' Cybermen that started back in 2005, (with a nod to a 'revenge Cyberman' during the episode 'Dalek',) but with the new look Cybermen closely resembling the fritz lang 'metropolis' robot lady from the 1927 film.
Even with the 'evolution' pf the Cybermen design that we have see on the screen reasonably recently trying to 'look' a bit like the designs of the 70's and 80's, the overall effect still falls far short of what many of the fans would like to see back on screen.
One of the biggest 'let downs' is that of the 'metropolis' Cybermen's voices, really dreadful, weak, poorly pitched and the blue led mouth light...really necessary or just 'over egging' the cake.
Hopefully we will see some sense prevail at the BBC and the Cybermen (the original Mondasians) will return, with an original and menacing storyline.
We can only hope...
It's annoying they had such a forced catchphrase that made little sense when you thought about it. At the very least, "Upgrade in Progress" made a small amount of sense. Though it sounded more like an attempt to give them actual dialogue since they remained rather silent throughout the majority of the story.
@Wodanaz i did not mean literally i know all those masters so look me up
synopsis of me: WHOVIAN WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING!!!
and there are other terms for that sir so there I said it!
@WowbaggerGriffin You are 100% right. What they should do is reuse this music but with a more modern feel to it. That way whenever The Cybermen appear, the music will make them badass as they could posibly be.
exelent
This music is really creepy!
@Wodanaz no! do not insult the master!
Easily better than Space Adventure.
3:05 what you came for
What. You don't recognize me? It's me, Poyo.
the cybermen in my series are more like the classics i will have t use this music
@Cybusmaster92
use vdownloader.
you can download it for free. just google it
"Your logic is incorrect."
The whole 'delete' line is just an embarrassingly transparent attempt to give them the same 'badass' image as the Daleks. When I saw Doomsday I liked it but repeat viewings just make me cringe hearing the cries of 'exterminate' and 'delete' between the rage-filled Daleks and Cybermen who now sound a printer my father owned in the nineties.
And in the Silver Nightmare, their 'upgrade in progress' is just them 'adapting' like the Borg.
There seems to be no original ideas left in the BBC.
the beginning part wasn't in the serial but is brilliant nonetheless.
@DoctorWhoMaster999 I got an A in Music. I'm not tone deaf, and Murray Gold is terrible!
4:40
4:52
3:33
@Wodanaz suit yourself wodanaz
used to love this particular music on the Cassette version; the tud thumping 'Cyber march' itself from 3:08-3.32 was never actually used in Earthshock, sadly, which is a shame as its quite forceful but the rest of the music was.
It was, I just watched Earthshock and it was there.
It was.
This is far better than anything Murray Gold can put together!
3:13
This is better than the entire current series of Dr who.😂..... Thanks BBC for killing this icon 👎👎
Wow...creepy O.o
Its the flatulence of the cybermen...cant touch the stock music from Moonbase and Tomb...
Martin Slavin Space Adventures is amazing.
Comment 100!
The Cybermen have been redesigned for series 7. What does everyone think of them?
@Wodanaz Murray Gold doesn't know when to end his music. Its too loud, and too long, and always the same!