RTX 4090 | Microsoft Flight Simulator - 4K, 8K, 16K - Ultra, Native, DLSS & Frame Generation
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- Testing the Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 24GB GPU in MSFS 2020 at 3 resolutions, using the ultra settings, with and without DLSS and FG.
⏱ Timestamps ⏱
Intro, Specs, Stuff - 0:00
4K Ultra - 1:00
4K Ultra / DLSS Quality - 4:36
4K Ultra / DLSS Quality / Frame Generation - 6:44
4K Ultra / TAA / FG- 10:52
8K Ultra - 12:21
8K Ultra / FXAA - 14:03
8K Ultra / TAA - 14:11
8K Ultra / TAA / FG - 15:45
8K Ultra / DLSS Performance - 16:16
8K Ultra / DLSS Performance / FG - 18:14
8K Ultra / DLSS Quality - 20:09
16K Ultra - 21:14
16K Low - 21:53
🔧 SPECS 🔧
◾️ AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
◾️ Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 24GB - Founders Edition
◾️ RAM - 32GB DDR4 3200MHz (4x8GB CL14)
◽️ OS - Windows 11 Pro
◽️ SSD 1 - WD Blue SN550 1TB
◽️ SSD 2 - WD Blue 1TB 3D NAND SATA
◽️ SSD 3 - Kingston A400 480GB
◽️ HDD 1 - WD Red 2TB 7200rpm
◽️ HDD 2 - Seagate Exos 12TB 7200rpm
◾️ Motherboard - MSI MAG X570 TOMAHAWK WIFI
◾️ PSU - Corsair HX1200 80+ Platinum
◾️ Case - Phanteks ECLIPSE P500A
🎥 Recorded with a capture card for no FPS loss.
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It's gonna be so painful for you to return to older lower end cards, after experiencing 60+ fps at 4k 😅
Try 120+ fps at 4k.
@@LSK2K he can't his capture card can't handle tht
You have to send back review sample?
@@thesos0 Best of luck to Nvidia in getting back their 4090 once I get my hands on it.
@Joseph Maher to test other GPUs ofc
When you turned on frame generation at native 8K, it looks like your VRAM was maxed out. I wonder if that feature uses more VRAM to store the AI generated frames. Not a scenario you'll run into a lot on a 24GB card, but in crazy zWORMz tests...
It also did that in his spiderman video
Yes it went from 10.7gb to 12.6 when he enabled frame generation at 4k as well
I saw another test on YT, where 8k FS2020 at 4090 was using 19.3 GB vram, so it must be something special that uses those last 5GB or it could be when its heavy hand-crafted stuff in FS2020 only or so?
Yes it's using vRAM to generate those frames not even RAM RAM is fast enough. This is why the 4090 uses a good 30% extra watts too to generate those frames.
@@arnav77framegen is pixel sensitive, quadruple the resolution, quadruple the load on the ofas and quadruple the memory load. Unlike most features, framegen's resolution vs load graph is linear. So if you were getting 6gb+500mb extra (for framegen on 1080p), it will use 4x the vram(500×4=2gb more) at 4k and similarly 8gb more at 8k
Another great video the only RUclipsr I'll watch when it comes to gpu testing been watching for ages now and it's good to see how far you've come 👍🏻
The 4090 is an absolute beast! What game can it not run with max graphics with over 60fps. I am truly amazed
Max graphics with 60fps has been possible for a while this isn’t surprising
@@emma6648 in 4k?
@@emma6648 now it's 120+
@@emma6648 I've never seen a 3090 get 60fps in cyberpunk in 4k with max graphics. Have you?
@@bubba5403 These negative people are the ones who don't own a 4090
The 16K test was interesting. One way of removing the CPU bottleneck in this game! Interestingly though if you could have reduced the VRAM further you might have had smoother frames. So serious GPU cards running 16K might actually be ok with double the RAM say 48GB. The 8K tests are really good. This is a bonafide 8K card for sure and that also bodes well for true 4K per eye displays in VR as well when they arrive.
If you're playing cartoon graphics, 2x 4k is probably fine on a headset, but I don't think you'd want that on something like Flight Sim. 4k was only getting like 80 fps, with 8k at 30 fps, and you really want something like 90 fps minimum for stereo and/or head-mounted displays. Unless they get frame interpolation working better, or you turn the settings way down, you're probably not hitting a solid 90+ fps at 2x 4k on nicer-looking titles.
Anything with strobing backlight starts giving me a headache under 80-90 hz, made worse with side panels or a dark room, and anything without strobing backlight has much worse motion blur when tracking an object across the screen. These problems exist on standard, monoscopic displays, but because it's not so in-your-face, it's less jarring on the brain. Once you get screens that start filling up most of your vision, it becomes more important to get fluid motion.
What really makes it bad is when you start twisting your head and the in-game visuals lag behind. It might not be a problem for some people, but other people get really motion sick when their brain can't interpret the latency issues with what it thinks should be happening the instant their head starts moving.
Also, be aware that frame interpolation increases latency in its current implementation, so you actually get more latency with it on than off, despite the apparent framerate increase. Extra frames might help if the issue is flickering from low refresh or issues with duplicated frames with a forced higher refresh. But they might make it worse if the issue is motion sickness from latency.
@@GeekOfAllness For better or worse, VR headsets still seem mostly like early adopter products, so maybe they'll hit their stride around the same time computers have the processing power to run fully fledged VR in like 4-6 years.
Great videos bro love from sri lanka❤️
Great videos bro love u man
11:55 even here on the building to your right u can see some weird artifacts or 'misguessed' frames but it's manageable, tbh it was able to keep up this whole time really good
And i think FG only works in cpu bottleneck scenarios since u were in 8K and almost pegged at 100% GPU usage so the FG didn't do anything
glad you got a 4090. Best reviewer there is by far. Nobody else does what you do keep it up and heres hope that AMD send you their new cards to test.
Esta graficamente é "assustadora" tanto em termos de performance como em termos de preço! 😂 Excelente vídeo como sempre!
Crazy to see really good real-time ai interpolation used in games. The only time I've messed around with this type of technology is when adding more frames to videos with ffmpeg's minterpolate on some old phones and spacewarp on quest
Thank you for flying me home. I haven't been there in a while.
great video luv ur vids
Thank you!
when u use frame generation at 8K, you were limited by the vram, thats why it was stuttering and had high latency
Thank you for this ❤
MS Flight Simulator always manages to look amazing, even though it can be quite intensive. The 4090 seems to make it look easy
You must be having an awesome time with this big boi😂, btw I noticed that the VRAM usage was doubled from 4K Ultra (no TAA, DLSS, or FG) to 8K Ultra (no TAA, DLSS, or FG), so we would need a 48GB card to run 16K Ultra! Not that it really matters though, but knowing a time might come when 4K or even 8K is the standard for low-end is just crazy.
I believe some of Nvidia's professional level cards have 48GB frame buffers. But they cost 1000's of dollars and the drivers aren't optimized/designed for gaming.
@@DrearierSpider1 and also the cars they have as of now would be unlikely to get the fps equal to an RTX 3090, let alone a 4090.
Who remembers to run Microsoft Flight Simulator 40 years ago on a 8086 CPU, 640Kb RAM, single 360K floppy and monochrome display? These images would be sci-fy back then.
Great video! Was wondering if you could make an updated "GTX TITAN | Nvidia's 2013 Beast in 2022!" Seems like it would be interesting to see an (almost) 10 year old card's benchmarks. Thanks!
Thanks!
I've been meaning to do that actually ^^
@@zWORMzGaming thanks dude, especially as a GTX Titan owner lol. Your videos are awesome as usual!
Loving the benchmarks, hopefully getting a Asus tuf 4090 soon.
I would love to see steam deck videos aswell :)
bro's living my dream
the 4090 saga continues
I don't know if for you its worth investing in this, however there is an addon called the Fenix A320. That addon is probably the most intensive addon in the game and can take away about 20 fps. The only thing is it costs £50. If you don't want to pay that much there is a free but less intensive addon called the fly by wire airbus A320nx. I certainly think you should at least get the a32nx.
Awesome channel. Can you test scorn plz
I’ve noticed with 2 side 1440p monitors and a middle 4k monitor, windows will use 3 GB of VRAM of my 3070 💀 but I planned on playing mostly older games so it hasn’t been too big of an issue except cyberpunk and spider man
Kryzzp are you spying on me every time i think of a game suggestion you do it lol kryzzp is the best greetings from Egypt
It seems to me that instead of testing the RTX 4090, everyone was looking at the city and comparing it to Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered game..
Just got my Zotac 4090 this morning and installed it along with the Nvidia driver and man am I impressed! At KLAX inibuilds airport with FSTL traffic at 4K at almost all settings on ultra paired to a Ryzen 7900X…..60-62 fps using DLSS 3.0….very impressive. The exact same scenario two days ago with my 3090 I was getting 28-34 choppy fps…..(while in the Fenix A320)
what do you do for living?
@@OzbRk I am an engineer
@@patches8291 oh cool
CPU is chilling there :DDDDDDDDDD
Yeeeaaaah thanks mate
This is awsome. And really hope 4060 comes out very soon for like 330. But it will prob be 500 knowing Nvidia. So ima get 3060ti anyways for my new pc. But great vid!
These 4090 videos are blinding me.
Now please do a video on something like the intel xe GPU for a change
Great video btw
I had to undervolt my 12900k because it was running hot with decent liquid cooling.
Now, it peaks at 82 only for a second on initial loading and sits in the 55 to 75 range the rest of the time. Stable with only 2-3% loss of performance.
Great vids watching from 2022 February
you got very close to those buildings 😳😳
Great video, thanks. Can you limit with DLSS 3 the settings in Nvidia Control panel and DLSS 3 to e.g. 144 Hz without any side effects e.g. additional tearing etc.?
This is what i was waiting for. Legend always!!
Hi divyu, hru
@@bubba5403I’m good hru?
@@goodboydivyu7295 im fine, thx for asking
@@bubba5403Nice to hear. You’re welcome!
What monitor are you using? If I'm gaming on 4k LG C2 with 120hz, won't I start getting screen tearing past 120 fps? Thanks
I'm a console gamer but i don't know why I'm addicted to your videos❤️
Holy damn, Frame Generation really chugs the VRAM down. I am scared of lower tier RTX 4000 series GPUs not being able to use FG because of not enough VRAM lol
Atleast you are unlikely to need it unless you have serious cpu bottleneck
16k low that might be around 40GB of VRAM usage 24GB on the gpu + like 16GB shared from the system memory
16k is 132MP...
his computer was about to blow up 💀💀☠️☠️☠️
In 2032: "Is still possible play new titles with RTX 4090?"
Result: playing CoD MW5 at 16k @ 8fps
GPU VRAM is effectively maxxed out at 8K and above over Manhatten. Frame interpolation works great at 4K though 🙂
I'm checking your channel every hour! 😉 According to your comment, it supposed to be yesterday. Or am I wrong🤨
I'd like to see this test again except with a more complex plane like the A320. that'd be the real test or what a lot of us play with
good video Kryzzp❤
Thank you 😃
Considering most people played the early flight simulators games for DOS in the 20 to 30 fps range back in the 1990's, you could call the 8K native results playable for this genre. No way that's how I'd choose to play it over 4K or 8K with DLSS, but certainly "playable" if you want to go that route.
These days I don't feel ok
But you're videos are just awesome and i finish my day with them
Keep it up bro
8K60fps is mind-fucking-boggling. I'm still in shock how fast we got to playing games at 8K in only 4 years.
Good informative video! What app are you using to display all the performace information?
Thanks!
I use MSI afterburner and RTSS :)
the first graphics accelerator for 4k (in existing games), then only with the tricky DLSS algorithm, otherwise nothing in future game projects
We are definitely a simulation
2:30 - what the hell are those textures? Is this like a post apocalypse USA city?
The game looks bad up close 😅
interesting, but with a light aircraft (small) and with the detail levels at 100 or 200, it is much easier for the hardware, but with these details at 400 (maximum) and with a heavier aircraft, like a PMDG or fenix , it would be more complicated for the PC to support.
4090 go BRRRRRRRR!!!!!!
Cheap Dani
Please enable subtitles on your video. I'm Brazilian but I don't have advanced knowledge in English but I like to watch your benchmarks.
Auto-generated subtitles will be ava........
Espera, porque é que estou a responder em inglês? 🤣
As legendas automáticas devem estar disponíveis em algumas horas :)
@@zWORMzGaming vc é de portugal?
@@kape871 sim
you should learn English for god sake ! It is INTERNATIONAL LANGUAGE, everybody on this earh must learn it.
@@tannguyenphoto not everybody has the chance to study other languages in our poor country. Don’t judge because of this. The CC is a feature RUclips has to offer… an streamer should use it to catch more viewers.
I was only happy when I saw that someone tested the 4090 with MSFS. But the settings of the weather are totally boring. Clouds, wind and rain would be a real challenge and really interesting to show what's inside the GPU.
great content love from bangladesh
Man you should try some popular aircraft addon like PMDG, my pc barely run msfs 2020 with PMDG 737-800 on high setting had to balance the setting and get stable 45-60 fps
Awesome video mate, but can it run Crysis.....
Great videos bro love from Pakistan❤️😊
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21:05 That's also like running 64 1080p monitors
i like how you have every ssd and HDD in description but you didn't include the CPU cooler
Impressive
well now i think for some days kryyzp only benchmark RTX 4090 he is too excited to bench this beast on different game well we are also too excited
19:22 reference 🔥😈
Hey WORMZ, try that same video all over again or at least 1080p, 2k, 4k but use an airline jet, fly low and put the view in cockpit all time then test. Only then we can know how much CPU/GPU it will perform, trust me, there's seriously something about cockpit views using airliners that will crush your performance. And add some clouds, they have big impact on performance as well.
Hey I am getting 130+ FPS in MSFS in 4K with my RTX 4090 and using DLSS. It is amazing.
What cpu? Thanks
I can only imagine how the Rtx 5090 will be in 2024 😬
Can you do your 5900x with the 4090?
MSFS is huge on cpu too. Actually I would argue you mainly need CPU power for MSFS
8K generated frames use more than 4gb of VRAM so you can't use FG at this case scenario.
And, as I can see, if you use FG than your GPU is already at 100% it does nothing because GPU works at it's maximum and have no other resources for processing FG.
You should test some gpus with a game called pc building simulator 2 is really intensive for a simulator game and a really recent game it's been out for about a week
GPU usage less than 90% (you were in the 70s) means your CPU is the bottleneck and the GPU is waiting, turning on frame generation would have helped in your case if it was available
That cpu is running hot
Did you see any noticeable difference between 8k and 16k though in terms of sharpness? I am guessing not since the only thing you talked about was how low the frames dropped
16:00 the reason for this frametime was because the whole 24gb of vram was being used lmao
8k it's looks like real life movie set
I'm wondering how do Afterburner counts the fake frames into the total FPS. I thought it would only count the actual rendered frames. Or it counts later in the pipeline? OR only some output given by the driver?
I do enjoy my 3060ti oced to half gigabit bandwidth 576 gb/s so far. I bought rig 8 months ago and thinking about changing it in 2024 when 50xx series will come out and 8k gaming will be less expensive . Because 8k displays are still pricing a lot. above 8k AA will be pointless I think anyways
Love from Bangladesh
Amazing video but consider going to the 7800x3d beats the 14900k and its best budget cpu
Next time while testing the game, fly to Manhattan and you know the rest 😏
a suggestion about the 4090 benchmarks, can you pls add a 1080p high and 1080p low even if its just a minute or less each, I would love to see how the 4090 performs on an average mid range player's settings. thank you
Not sure 'mid range player' will buy 4090 tho
@@mustdy7177 I know 1080p is an insult to 4090 I get it but people wanna see how drastic the difference of a 4090 between an average consumer. And 500hz monitors are coming soon sooo
@@ryanoops123 from what I've learned there is nearly 0 difference for 1080p if one will compare 4090 and 3090 ti
What kind of frames do you get when flying low over New York with the f18 with frame generation?
5:09 man did the funny a lot of times in a row
Talvez a próxima RTX 5090 suporte 16k a 30 FPS.
what software are you using for statistics (top left)?
Nice video, how did you get 16K resolution? Do you have a 16K monitor or is it upscaled (What do you use for that)?
Its downscaling/downsampling
My old laptop going to 15-30fps 720p in league of legends, and the RTX 4090 8k Ultra 30fps on flight simulator.
Its a well optimized game, I play it on a 1080TI 32Gigs of ram and a 3800x at ~60fps with the same settings. In 1920x1080
I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not, but this game is not optimized well. The fact that with a 1080ti you can only run it at 1080p max settings 60 fps says enough. A 1080ti should be enough for 1440p ultra 60 fps in any game. A 3090 for example can't get 60 fps at 4k ultra.
@@luukherfst1209 Did it ever occur to you that one may not have a 1440p monitor? My monitor is 1080p if it would be higher, I would run it at a higher resolution. It may indeed be able to run at that resolution and framerate.
What’s your favourite dinosaur, Kryzzp?
you should use diffirent planes if you benchmark this games, different planes are more or less demanding to render.
what program do you use to see FPS VRAM and other info?
RTX 5090, 2024!
Ok that's it, I think this sim needs the least 4070 to cap 60 fps at ultra 1080p or 2k along with 5800X3D or better. Just the temp on the CPU is worrying me. But 4070 is the performance of 3080-90 ti?
What ap are you using to display GPU and CPU and FPS ?
which sw do you use to measure fps, cpu and gpu performance?
8K is the new 4K