12 Marvel Villains Who Were Actually Right
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Yeah, heroes are great and all, but what about villains? Superhero movies are sometimes only great because the good guy has an extremely compelling bad guy to fight against. And most of the time, these bad guys have “destroy the whole world and rule over the ashes” type of energy to them, but I always like it when a bad guy has understandable motivations. When the movie can make me sympathetic toward its villain while also wondering if they were actually right, then I know I’m in for a good time.
So what are some of the biggest villains around who were actually right? Well, the most recent example has to be Gorr right? Gorr wanted to get rid of all the gods because they were lazy and selfish, and then the movie expertly laid out why all the gods seem to be lazy and selfish. He wasn’t wrong! Or what about Thanos? I think Thanos made such a great villain because he made a lot of sense at the beginning when it came to worrying about the depletion of resources. What other villains do you think were actually right? Killmonger? Baron Zemo? Ultron? I’ll be discussing all of them today!
So join me as I break down all the Marvel bad guys who were actually right. Again, I’m not saying I agree with their methods, but I think their ideas and philosophies were quite accurate. Take a look at today’s video and see if you agree with me. After you’re done, be sure to hit that big like and subscribe button for more awesome Marvel content like this. And leave a comment while you’re at it! Thanks for watching CBR! Let’s get started.
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Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:28 Gorr
02:39 Thanos
04:30 Killmonger
06:14 Baron Zemo
07:29 Vulture
08:39 Kaecilius
09:58 Sharon Carter
10:37 Ghost
11:24 Ultron
12:20 Loki
13:26 Agatha Harkness
14:10 Magneto
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They were right but as Toph told Korra, “The problem was those guys were totally out of balance, and they took their ideologies too far.”
Referring to Amon wanting Equality through persecution, Unalaq wanting Reconnection with the spirits through destruction, Zaheer wanting Freedom through chaos and Kuvira wanting Peace through submission.
Yes this is what I lot of Gillian’s do wrong they have good ideals but then they just go over the top with it
Ex: Being able to control everyone so that they don’t destroy the earth
It’s a good ideal but it’s above everyone’s free will
Wtf are you talking about 😐
Yeah while Avatar is the more beloved show, Korra had much better villains.
What about Dr.Doom? He saw the only 1 alternate future were he was the ruler. He went for global domination for the world with peace and no crime.
The MCU villains which I empathized the most where with Thanos and Gorr, but I will go specially with Gorr, since his main impulse or purpose was guided by his revengeful thoughts, and as a motivation, is flexible and vast in terms of meaning. Love and Thunder did a great job of playing with the idea of revenge from the angles of not only one person versus another, but also a person against themself, and a person against the universe. This is what Gorr was about, very much a person versus himself struggle. He wanted revenge on all the gods for what they’ve done not only to him but to all of their believers and worshipers. However his motivation was mainly guided by the Necrosword who seeks to make the emotions within Gorr turn more devastating. It wanted to drive him mad with his own desire for violence and revenge. Since the ultimate goal of the Necrosword is to see its wielder’s demise.
Sympathising with any MCU villain shows that you don’t believe in the concept of responsibility, no god came to Gorr and told him that he will have a beautiful fruitful life, it was on him, he was incapable of taking care of his daughter and like any other coward he ran away from taking the responsibility, he was angry on Thor because of him being a god but are we forgetting that same god fought for millennia in support of 9 realms and eventually lost everything and everyone in his life.
If you want to see good revenge arcs in MCU then Thor in Infinity war was best because he lost due to some other villain and then went on to thrash that villain with pure vengeance in heart.
I personally like Thanos' motive... Yeah all things in the universe should be in a balanced form but I hate the way he wanted to achieve it (by killing people)
Exactly imagine if Thanos were actually a good guy
Why did he think the universe was overpopulated? Individual planets maybe but the entire universe? Full of fuck all.
@@for111 lol
He could of made infinite food
@@whitebowgart
Apparently, MCU's infinity stones are not omnipotent. It seems that the stones can't create something out of nothing, nor produce energy out of nothing (or else we would not see all the universes ending in a black hole as seen in "LOKI" ). But I agree, with the power of the stones, there must be a way to do something like bringing ultra efficient technologies to clean wastes, recycle stuff etc.
We really need a movie about thanos. Who agrees wit me????
Gorr deserves more screen time!
My favourite villain was Mysterio and you forgot him, he was right in a way too 🥲 But nice video! I agree on Thanos, Killmonger, Ultron, Zemo, Vulture and Ghost!
All Sandman wanted to do was pay for his daughter to get well... Spiderman stopped him from doing that
Ghost is so underrated
Green Goblin was just fighting for his company, imagine having everything you worked for taken away from you
And he isn’t in the right state of mind. He’s fighting with a split personality also he was right when he told Peter eventually they will hate him. It happens to another Peter in No Way Home.
Doc Ock just wanted cheap renewable energy for everyone
According to TV Tropes this list would fall in the category of "Villain Has a Point."
Are we going to see more Marvel villains who were right in the future? Could Kang the Conqueror be like these villains in the MCU?
@ trex advent Kang be in 2025, in Avengers : the kang dystany
CBR, I have a question, u know how Doctor Strange could make everyone forget Peter Parker is Spider man, y couldn’t Doctor Strange make thanos forget about the infinity stones? Love your vids btw, keep up the good work.
Huh
i did like gorr but i think they really need to make villains bad again as having a villain who isn’t actually a villain could get boring after a while.
Al of the villains motives have great intentions, but the problem is they are radical to the extreme. My favorite motive is Dr Doom. He wanted to bring world peace by any means necessary. Villain’s motives makes the protagonist think about the decisions they make in my personal opinion.
I hope they adapt that into his MCU adaptation.
Instead of doubling the resources, Thanos could use the snap to make everyone sustainable
Tchalla could supply the entire African continent, but sit on its wealth.
All the things Thanos could’ve done instead.
-Gather a cult willing to die for his cause and butcher them with the power stone.
-Use reality stone to make more food
I really thought that Killmonger, Vulture, and Gorr really had a pure-hearted and clear-minded view on why they were being evil
Kill monger wanted to conquer the entire planet not just west but east as well, last time I checked eastern countries have nothing to do with black problems.
Just a request don’t pollute MCU with your real life politics and agendas.
He is good just because he is black and you don’t find this racist, that’s a joke
IMO Killmonger deserves the number 1 spot and then the second spot is for Zemo
"Thanos' way i agree with these ideas" this guy is being watched by the FBI
Can you do a video about which Cosmic marvel villain could be the main antagonist of the second Captain Marvel movie in the MCU? I think it should be Korvac
Can you do a video about which character who took on the mantle of the Vulture in the comics could replace Adrien Toomes Vulture in the MCU?
Most of the villains are in MCU or in anime
hey cbr you should make a avatar star wars calab like you did when you put the avengers in star wars
Earth became a dystopia when everyone came back. Earth wouldn't have returned to normal after they returned.
The best villains are the ones who have understandable motivations
I was kinda hoping in infinity war for thanks to win and he did it just adds to the fact that superheroes can also lose
I know this isn’t related to the video but can u please do episodes 8 and 9 for the new Star Wars trilogy u we’re doing before cuz i loved it please do it!
What is it
Thanos is an eternal. He was the result of an eternal going 'mad'.
He knew about the celestial in planets but not enough to tell people. He was messed up and didn't have the ability to really know and tell people.
Thanos was buying time to deal with the celestials.
... But with the infinity stones he could have gotten rid of the celestials.
Most villains are in the MCU, Zemo and Thanos are. Ultron can’t be right lol, he’d kill us all, though yes humans are the problem.
intro we tend to root for the heroes
-me who roots for the villains
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What would happen if the Marvel heroes tried to listen to these villains and tried to help them without doing anything that they might regret later?
Well done
In rebuttal of gor, you're forgetting that not all gods live in omnipotent city.
We have no idea about some gods living offscreen.
Professor X happens to be wrong in one way - lack of direct action. Sure, he gets a superhero team together, but does he actively get any of them to do things like speak to politicians and/or campaign for their (and other mutants) human rights? Does he actively try to make a point to world current governments about that?
To my knowledge, Magneto actually has more of this done by killing Nazis and getting Mystic to take over a politician's life to hopefully actually bother to improve things. I'm not saying murder is right, but I definitely see Magneto as the superior choice on actually bothering to Mutant rights throughout the X-Men series.
I’m with you 100%!!! Villains RULE! 😜🙌🏾👏🏾
also i did not forget that many supes bros were team tony, while not only Ultron he initiated, but the ENTIRE Stark legacy STARTED all of these leading to Thanos' snap. Stark's snap literally him fixing his own mess. not just that after his death even, the perfected Time Travel lead Nathaniel Richards as his descendant starting another mess not only in one universe but multiverse as well as SWORD and DODC mess.
no wonder every What If universes kill off their tony stark variants, they hate him for sure
Gor, Thanos, Ultrons Words Are Most Understandble Tbh XD
A lot of villains even real life ones have there story’s and may even be right. It’s just how we decide to look at the choices they make and think of what they are. Good or bad.
Please do a video on morbius
13:40
To be fair, agatha would definitely have misued chaos magic
Thanos was a titan of TRUE motive
Every villain is right at their place
Everyone think right for them
Great CBR VIDEO MCU VILLAINS THERE RIGHT
THANK YOU !!!.... I find myself rooting for the bad guys in most these movies now #Gorr4Prez
me too.... i rooted for Joker
Fixing Star Wars the last Jedi when?
Captain America not telling Tony Bucky was the one who killed his parents. That is kind of what lit the spark for Civil War. Though losing his family is understandable motivation for going off the rails Hawkeye did become an assassin and kill people. Yelena didn't think to do her own research and just stupidly believed what she was told about Hawkeye killing Natasha. Thor, even after learning what his father did to Loki continued to follow and believe in his father. Valkyrie deciding the best way to handle her problems was to become an alcoholic. Thor deciding the best way to handle his was to become a fat slob couch potato, and Nebula thinking for a long time the best way to handle her problems was to kill her sister. Just to name a few. Tony has too many wrong moments to count.
I love Thanos point in Infinity War I agree with it completely. Ultron was online for 10 seconds and was like yeah y’all gotta go. Killmonger is another one I definitely agree with as well. Magneto I definitely agree with always have and always will, he only retaliates if they left him alone he would act the way he does.
I was so underwhelmed with Ultron, not saying AoU is a terrible movie... However What if...? Ultimatley redeemed how boss sauce he can be with the inclusion of "Infinity Ultron". Arguably the strongest villian of the MCU so far. I mean he swamped a super saiyan Uuatu The Watcher after beating every other hero/villian in his reality and breaking through the multiverse.
...I really hope like Captain Carter, we get to see Infinity Ultron return to the MCU in live action in the future.
The Marvel Villains had good motives. But the way they proceeded to do it was bad.
That's what made the Marvel stories better... you understood why they turned evil
Thank for The Awesome Video ❤️❤️🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🏆🏆🌈🌈
thor learned somthing.... to make sure the kids are trained in combat
The first villain is an unknown.
What would happen if these villains turned to the side of good just like Loki?
7:12 YES!! Which is why I don’t like Avengers Age of Ultron & don’t think the Avengers are hero’s for stopping Ultron. You MADE the problem, when no one asked you to & all because you think you know what’s best for everyone on earth, it backfired spectacularly, people died, life’s were shattered, dude was about to use an entire nation as a meteor to wipe us out & you fixed it. I’m supposed to cheer you on for that because you learned the value of teamwork or whatever?
With all them droids Ultron would have created, just the smog alone would have been enough to destroy the earth. Then again if it's like Futurama, and all they have to do is meet up on a tiny island and fart to cool the earth; maybe Ultron would be right?
Which one of these villains do you think is the best as well as the most powerful and would win against each other?
Doctor Strange lied and that’s pretty wrong I mean he said there’s only one way he could’ve literally put a portal underneath their thanos and put the other side into space and Thanos would’ve been frozen and then Thanos is dead
Thor actually saw they are bad, and stabbed Zeus
Uh, excuse me...? Thanos was NOT right!!!
He was right... The only thing that seems "wrong" is his method. Let me explain further. Firstly, there was a problem with overpopulation, and that meant that resources would be less, that's to be known through the movie (IW). His planet went through the same problem and most went extinct. After that, he ended up going on a journey to prevent other planets from facing the same problem. Secondly, if you watched Eternals, you'll know that if the population passes a certain amount of number, a celestial egg will start hatching and the Earth would be doomed (there's a theory as well that Titan might have had a celestial destroy it, but I'm not too sure about that). So, long story short, he saved the Earth some time and saved the universe.
Now, before you start arguing, I just want to point this out that, of course killing (more like snapping life away) doesn't seem right but hey, he basically cut us some slack, saved us from a celestial egg etc. Now, I do disagree with the "doubling the resources" solution. Nah, that's not how it works lol. Greed will increase, and that'll lead to more wars. In the end, nothing will ever help since there are always dumbfk people out there.
@@aflower5768 ok ok, point taken, but I still don't like his ideology either way
And yeah, those Celestials were pretty much jackasses too
Marvel Gods (Thor, Khonsu, Storm, Zeus) should thank Gorr for being their enemy,
had it been Chaos King, they would've been extinct !! 🤣
Or Kratos.
Great
Interesting
My man turning Thor into Kratos
A good ultron would be relly cool and i don't mean vision.
Just a good guy super AI with a sh*t ton of drones to act as earth's army.
My favourite villan so far is gonna be ULTRON
If Thor learnt something, do you expect him to go killing other Gods
Ultron is just upset of bringing peace and quiet like everything Humanity first 💪👨👩👧👧
thanos thought he had a glorious purpose. i wonder who else thought that...if you know what i mean
If professor X can move things with his mind, why can’t he make his legs move?
can thanos not wiping out half the universe
Me: what if episode 2
If thanos is an eternal an eternals are placed on planets to grow celestials, what celestial was placed on titan
Magneto is the best. His magnetic persistent wins.
If Loki really died in the hands of Thanos how come after he was killed he never turned back blue into a frost giant which means Loki faked another death and he is still alive in the main universe and marvel is making us think Loki is dead but he is hiding and might be pulling a Classic Loki move and will eventually reunite with Thor.
What about Kro in Eternals
Well if everyone is first then I guess I'm second xP
I have seen dr Strange and the first movie of Black Panter
Gors views sound like a modern day politician 🙄
11:26 I am no human
lol, its never about who is right and who is wrong, Its the guy with the biggest fist thats right.
The gods will punish him if they heard what he said about Gorr was correct
Gorr is only right about zeus thor actually wanted to save the world thor wasnt selfish and he doesnt sit in a throne no he saves people zeus he doesnt deserve it my point is gorr shouldnt have gone for thor only for the gods in that god city
Was saying thanos was justified since I first seen the movie
Sharon Carter isn't a villain anymore than black widow.
Thanos was always right and also Ultron is right humans are the biggest threat
Love and Thunder was more than a step down from Ragnarok. It was a whole damn flight of stairs down from Ragnarok. It sucked!
Thanos actually destroyed half of all animals, plants and alien versions of life so it stayed somewhat the same
When he said half the universe that meant plants and animals to.
after watching this, I think Ultron is right 😅
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a broken clock is right twice per day
what determine right from wrong is the destruction of innocent human beings
Wut and first =)
I like Loki
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Wow. The one villain that's not part of the MCU is the greatest of them all. Everyone saying that Kilmonger is a compelling villain clearly doesn't know who Magneto is. Kilmonger only cares about people who are like him on the outside whereas Magneto cares about people who are like him on the inside. #fukthemcu
Magneto is coming.
Magneto was right
Where scarlet witch???
She did not have selfless and understandable motives.
Apocalypse is right, survival of the fittest
thanos was so right，if he does that for us and half and his daughtrr dies，i guess i am fine to be gone or aiv e
Scarlet witch and the Hypocrisy of Doctor Strange
Ultra asswell
Ultron