I was born into a mormon family in the heart of mormonism, I learned from birth to participate in the teaching and believe my worldview as the standard of truth going eventually to everyone, I genuinely felt I had been born into something special. my world crashed down when I found the primary sources and reality of how my church began along with many date setter belief systems based on denying the reliability of the scriptures. True things need to be valued more than our presuppositions and tradition, I'm so glad I started learning the bible and branching out to what is true rather than what is taught and repeated. Thank you for this content, it's well thought out and engaging, I feel like a terrorist still living in the middle of utah completely surrounded, but not unarmed, my heart and the truth of the identity of jesus is threatening to mormons that believe in their own divinity and deny jesus of his unique attributes, please pray for me and them, and Thank you so much for valuing truth.
I was LDS for 34 yrs till I found truth in Christ. It was the most transforming experience of my life when my eyes were opened and all that Mormon pride was reduced to the sinner I actually was.
He is neither a theologian, nor intelligent. He is a salesman. He is marketing and selling his book(s). He is using the Gospel and the Bible as a tool to market and sell his book(s). If you want intelligent Christian thinkers, try Francis Collins and Alvin Plantinga.
Stupid compliment. Is this sarcasm? Complimenting someones mannerisms? Why say something like that. Its like saying, nice picture man growing the beard a little, huh? Really nice beard man.
This changed not just how I will share my faith, but also how I live my Christian life! Magnifying the glory of God and responding in thankfulness for EVERYTHING - life changing perspective! Praise Jesus Christ! I love you, Doug Wilson!
brilliant; so much to take on board here. I`d never heard anyone emphasize gratitude in the messenger like this. Kind of logical when you think about it.
Doug, this has been the most helpful instruction I have ever gotten in my Christian Life as to what our approach should be when engaging unbelieving friends. I want to have this Sermon in writing so I can refer to it and meditate on how I might better represent the Truth in my life. Please pray for me! I want to be this representative to the walking dead in my life. I thank God for you!
Very, very good talk here. This brought so many colors to the perspective of "sharing" the gospel or trying to intellectualize it to others. First, it begins with our walk and our demeanor.
This is one of the best, biblical presentations of God-centered evangelism I've ever heard! Should be listened to and re-listened to until we recover our faithful witness! Thank you, Pastor Wilson! Is there a written version of this message?
Wilson is a Calvinist and a presuppositional apologist. Calvinism is a shallow minded, bankrupt, and low rent theology. Presuppositional apologetics is a bankrupt and collapsed apologetic.
“Why should we turn to someone other than historians or scientists, the experts in their related fields of research, for answers related to history or science? Apologists are just there to take advantage of you, telling you what you want to hear when the evidence tells you otherwise. The sheer existence of apologists is reason alone to raise suspicion. Their dishonesty is blatant when you simply double check what they say. In the end, historians and scientists are not just one big conspiracy against Jesus, the Bible is simply wrong about most things.” -Joseph R. Hanson
Duggie seems to forget a very serious problem with Calvinism. According to Calvinism, God has chosen His "elect" to be saved from the foundation of the world, the number of the "elect" is fixed, cannot be added to nor diminished. And of course, the rest are condemned. If this is true, it is a NECESASRY (deductive) CONCLUSION that ALL Christian activity is meaningless and valueless. This includes his theonomy and "Christian nationalism". Since it has no bearing upon who gets saved, and who does not. We can do good Christian works 24/7 or do nothing at all, and the result is the same. No amount if Christian activity (nor inactivity) will change the outcome. The "elect" will be saved, everyone else is condemned.
Your point about personal morality having a relation to their argument doesn’t hold water when you consider all of the Protestant theologians that were scum in their personal life. Rushdoony, Barth, etc Compare this with Eastern Orthodox theologians. You’re not considered a theologian unless you’re living a holy life in communion with God.
There is a fairly obvious formal distinction between affirming something and not doing it, and affirming something and then doing it. Rushdoony and Barth were hypocrites; Sartre lived what he taught, more or less. The problem Wilson points to is that what this demonstrates is that Sartre has a vested interest in denying a God who would damn Sartre's teaching and life.
@@owenedwards3626 Right. And Sartre and others are interested in not affirming something because they don't want to do it. Also, to the original poster - I'm not sure it's at all clear that Rushdoony was scum. The record there is very confused as to whether or not he was a negligent husband or his wife was markedly erratic.
None taken. If you prefer apologetics videos with sparks, Doug's lectures at Indiana have much more conflict (including the Q&A afterwards responding to all the questions). They're free to watch as well. Here's the trailer: ruclips.net/video/LhB44UUrNvg/видео.html
I was born into a mormon family in the heart of mormonism, I learned from birth to participate in the teaching and believe my worldview as the standard of truth going eventually to everyone, I genuinely felt I had been born into something special. my world crashed down when I found the primary sources and reality of how my church began along with many date setter belief systems based on denying the reliability of the scriptures.
True things need to be valued more than our presuppositions and tradition, I'm so glad I started learning the bible and branching out to what is true rather than what is taught and repeated.
Thank you for this content, it's well thought out and engaging, I feel like a terrorist still living in the middle of utah completely surrounded, but not unarmed, my heart and the truth of the identity of jesus is threatening to mormons that believe in their own divinity and deny jesus of his unique attributes, please pray for me and them, and Thank you so much for valuing truth.
@@sojourner2013 thank you!
I was LDS for 34 yrs till I found truth in Christ.
It was the most transforming experience of my life when my eyes were opened and all that Mormon pride was reduced to the sinner I actually was.
@@savedbygrace745 are you me?
One of the greatest theological intellectuals of our time.
True!
Agreed much respect for him when he went against Christopher hitches it's how I found him.
@@triplea6174 lmbkl
He is neither a theologian, nor intelligent. He is a salesman. He is marketing and selling his book(s). He is using the Gospel and the Bible as a tool to market and sell his book(s). If you want intelligent Christian thinkers, try Francis Collins and Alvin Plantinga.
@@manager0175 don’t care what you just said. You just wasted your time.
Thanks be to God for the word that was shared on this video
I appreciate Doug, mannerisms and all
Stupid compliment. Is this sarcasm? Complimenting someones mannerisms? Why say something like that. Its like saying, nice picture man growing the beard a little, huh? Really nice beard man.
@@simontherockpeter2134 relax, man
@@simontherockpeter2134 How is a compliment stupid? What are you trying to say?
This changed not just how I will share my faith, but also how I live my Christian life! Magnifying the glory of God and responding in thankfulness for EVERYTHING - life changing perspective! Praise Jesus Christ! I love you, Doug Wilson!
brilliant; so much to take on board here. I`d never heard anyone emphasize gratitude in the messenger like this. Kind of logical when you think about it.
God bless you man great work
Very good. Convicted on the magnitude of my ungratefulness. Thank you greatly for this!
Wow- saving this sermon.
THANK YOU BROTHER
God bless you Doug Wilson. I love your work and your style please keep the videos coming. Merry Christmas to you, may you have a blessed holiday.
I'm so glad I found this, praise God
6:43 Absconder - a person who will leave secretly and suddenly, especially to avoid being caught, punished, or put on trial.
Thank you, Bubba of Alabama.
I am focusing on a rhetorical stance that move closer to your vision and temperament.
This is amazing, great job Doug!
Doug, this has been the most helpful instruction I have ever gotten in my Christian Life as to what our approach should be when engaging unbelieving friends. I want to have this Sermon in writing so I can refer to it and meditate on how I might better represent the Truth in my life. Please pray for me! I want to be this representative to the walking dead in my life. I thank God for you!
This is amazing thanks Phil and ultimately thank you God.
Thank you, kind sir!
Very, very good talk here. This brought so many colors to the perspective of "sharing" the gospel or trying to intellectualize it to others. First, it begins with our walk and our demeanor.
This is one of the best, biblical presentations of God-centered evangelism I've ever heard! Should be listened to and re-listened to until we recover our faithful witness! Thank you, Pastor Wilson! Is there a written version of this message?
Thank God for truth!!
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His intellect is as deep as his voice.
Wilson is a Calvinist and a presuppositional apologist. Calvinism is a shallow minded, bankrupt, and low rent theology. Presuppositional apologetics is a bankrupt and collapsed apologetic.
this is great :O
As in any superficial assessment of a single sentence a logical fallacy is created Doug!
Did his vouce get lower.
I think he was fighting a cold when this was recorded. That's not his normal voice.
Was listening to this with my phone in my pocket, I thought, this guy kinda sounds like Doug Wilson lol.
Must have a cold
“Why should we turn to someone other than historians or scientists, the experts in their related fields of research, for answers related to history or science? Apologists are just there to take advantage of you, telling you what you want to hear when the evidence tells you otherwise. The sheer existence of apologists is reason alone to raise suspicion. Their dishonesty is blatant when you simply double check what they say. In the end, historians and scientists are not just one big conspiracy against Jesus, the Bible is simply wrong about most things.”
-Joseph R. Hanson
Duggie seems to forget a very serious problem with Calvinism. According to Calvinism, God has chosen His "elect" to be saved from the foundation of the world, the number of the "elect" is fixed, cannot be added to nor diminished. And of course, the rest are condemned. If this is true, it is a NECESASRY (deductive) CONCLUSION that ALL Christian activity is meaningless and valueless. This includes his theonomy and "Christian nationalism". Since it has no bearing upon who gets saved, and who does not. We can do good Christian works 24/7 or do nothing at all, and the result is the same. No amount if Christian activity (nor inactivity) will change the outcome. The "elect" will be saved, everyone else is condemned.
We are living in the flat earth that God made. It’s hard to wrap your head around but it is the truth, just as the word of God is true.
Calvinist/Reformed. ☹
Your point about personal morality having a relation to their argument doesn’t hold water when you consider all of the Protestant theologians that were scum in their personal life.
Rushdoony, Barth, etc
Compare this with Eastern Orthodox theologians. You’re not considered a theologian unless you’re living a holy life in communion with God.
There is a fairly obvious formal distinction between affirming something and not doing it, and affirming something and then doing it. Rushdoony and Barth were hypocrites; Sartre lived what he taught, more or less. The problem Wilson points to is that what this demonstrates is that Sartre has a vested interest in denying a God who would damn Sartre's teaching and life.
@@owenedwards3626 Right. And Sartre and others are interested in not affirming something because they don't want to do it. Also, to the original poster - I'm not sure it's at all clear that Rushdoony was scum. The record there is very confused as to whether or not he was a negligent husband or his wife was markedly erratic.
I know about Barth's grievous failings but nothing about Rushdoony. What is the issue with his personal life?
David Brown has the best biblical view of the postmil position... Have you read his book, Doug?
Boring
fake news
That's been overplayed. No offense but I did find it boring. I'll listen again. Maybe I was distracted.
None taken. If you prefer apologetics videos with sparks, Doug's lectures at Indiana have much more conflict (including the Q&A afterwards responding to all the questions). They're free to watch as well. Here's the trailer: ruclips.net/video/LhB44UUrNvg/видео.html
@@CanonPress The link within the above link no longer works, (the one that ends in /bloomington)
@@brokenstring21 vimeo.com/43882858
God bless you man great work