In this talk from the 2018 Grace Agenda 2018 Men's Seminar, pastor Doug Wilson discusses how Jesus picked fights. This video is presented by Canon Press.
Yep we must admit and seek the real Jesus no matter the cost. The cost can be high. My biggest struggle is the mother of my child. She seeks an easy Jesus. Was a hard lesson for me to learn
As a people pleasing person who claims to follow Christ I need this message. It’s time to stand firmly on the rock of truth and kick other’s balsa wood foundations out! 🙏🏽👊🏽
I can relate. I started standing my ground along with cleaning up my act on any backsliding and praying on the subject. All the people making me miserable at work for following Jesus either quit, got let go, or sent to other jobs.🙂
That people pleasing nature is not of you. You repent from it by apologizing for resenting your mother for planting it in you and, if necessary, your father for not protecting you from that.
Yep & Voodie Baucham speak to US on the 11th Commandment. Thou Shalt BE NICE. too many of US FALL INTO THAT TRAP. Lambs before the Slaughter. Is only correct at Rare & Certain Times. God Bless You. Time to Play The Man !!!
Good luck! Being a Christian is the Hardest thing I have ever done because it's all invasive but it's the only truth. Being refined isn't fun but it IS rewarding. God is the perfect father :)
This is so powerful for me. I am new to Christianity. Doug Wilson’s speaking struck home to me regarding, “What is a story without an antagonist?" From early childhood onward, I have feared and even hated struggle, conflict and difficult challenges. I think that is why Captain Jame Tiberius Kirk of Star Trek, had been such a father figure for me. He embraced struggle and striving, while I feared and wished to avoid it at all costs; wishing only for resolution. I knew that there was some precious pearl in Kirk's attitude that I wished I could take in and live. Much to chew on and digest here. I am very appreciative for this video. Thank you for posting this.
Thank you for all that you do Doug! “Kill the dragon, get the girl” really resonated with me the first time I listened to this and have maybe said it once for every 100 times I’ve thought it. I came back to review this again as part of my test to if I’ve allowed ‘stinkin thinkin’ or wrong attitudes to enter into the fights I pick. Again thank you. BTW, its was then Colonel ‘Chesty’ Puller at the battle for the Chosin Reservoir in Korea ~Nov 1950 who said “We're surrounded. That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them." The phrase ‘We're surrounded. That simplifies matters.’ Is often considered to be a faithful paraphrase in Marine Corps history/lore. Semper Christus my brother.
Considering NT Wright’s comment... “The second concern is for the Christian discipleship that professes to follow the true Jesus. The disciplines of prayer and Bible study need to be rooted again and again in Jesus himself if they are not to become idolatrous or self-serving. We have often muted Jesus’ stark challenge, remaking him in our own image and then wondering why our personal spiritualities have become less than exciting and life-changing”
That's why the catholic cult shows the baby Jesus and not the adult man and son of God - it made me sick as a child and does now. He who does not fears the divine will not be blessed by the divine. Johann Sebastian Bach signed all his compositions: All glory to God. When our father sees we seek his wisdom and judge ourselves - there is Grace 🤗
I am still amazed that idols continue to spring up, even though you just got done toppling the latest one(that's visible to you)..."what?? how long has this been here?" Thank you for yet another readjustment of the lens to see our Lord, how He really was and is.
The first minute really hit home to me. I thought it was just me that said that in my head. When I first became a "Christian" there were definitely some people that purposely kept pushing me trying to get a certain reaction specifically so they could tell me how a "Real Christian" should react. Thankfully, when I do my best to live according to His word, and pray, God seems to remove these people from my life. 🙏
Just going through your video this is the first one I hearing.. I am excited about the topics you cover they are on point with what things I think about myself . God bless you sir love from Arkansas NWA
Creativity, complexity, comprehensiveness, completeness - these are all things that can involve 'conflict' to achieve - without implying an inherent evil needing to be overcome. Worship itself implies the lack predicated by it's non-existence. Into nothing, something... and heaven and God allow for that newness on into eternity. If we're like Him, and he's a creator (the creator), we can theorize that we will continue to make things that reflect God's image and truth, nothing new (outside of God) but new recombinations of Him in ways we've yet to discover and understand.
Thank you for putting these out there Doug - very very challenging, heartening and informative - for me anyway from the notebook at the top of the Brandberg in Namibia: "Clays lie still but blood's a rover Breath's a ware that doesn't keep Up lad When this journey's over There'll be time enough for sleep"
Wonderful teaching. Thank you. And that quote from “some General” about the act of planning before a battle being absolutely essential, and the plans being fairly useless once the battle has begun, is simply priceless to me as a homeschooling mother. I experience this every Summer and Fall. Amen!
What a fantastic message. His statement about there being 30 acres of grounds that Christ chased the money changers out of with His whip is something I have not heard before. This is the real Jesus, the One who fights to defend Truth and calls evil, evil and good, good. This is not the Jesus many are hearing about in their 'churches.'
Clearing the temple was a modern day equivalent of going into your local city hall and chasing everybody out ,or your local police departments, your local courthouse, wherever wherever business is done
Yashua said “ I go to prepare a place for you in my Fathers house are many mansions.” The universe is vast. Every galaxy is a grain of sand to Yahweh or a mansion. Prepare your hearts sons of Adam and daughters of Eve and stand faithful to the King of kings and Lord of lords.
"I am willing to fight fellow Christians when the analogy of scripture demands it. I'm unwilling to fight faithful Baptists, Methodists, Charismatics, and so on, even though we have marked differences: David and Jonathan. I'm more than willing to fight with Bishop Spong, with Bishop Robinson at al, like Elisha fights with Ahab. I don't fight with them fight with them because they are not in the covenant, I fight with them because they are: you can't represent Christ that way, you're you're representing Christ and no, you can't do that. Lastly, I am reluctantly willing to fight defensively with conservative believers who've taken it into their heads to launch an unnecessary attack on us eg David and Saul: David didn't want to be fighting with Saul but Saul was chasing David."
I love you Doug, and I really liked a lot of the things you said here, (not that you will ever read this necessarily.) But some of this I just can't put my finger on. You are right that every story has an antagonist and that there is a lot of conflict, heaven most likely will have work, but I think the story of redemption isn't great because it has an antagonist or because there is conflict it always comes back to Christ's love. So when we tell stories in heaven (of we hypothetically do that) I would think that the stories would possibly bore our earthly human minds because it would be repeatedly simply giving God glory. Doesn't Isaiah talk about the seraphim with 6 wings saying Holy Holy Holy. Essentially forever? I would think in heaven our stories will be antagonist free and still be amazing to our glorified ears. Also as a logical side I thought that part was simply presupposing that life or heaven was about stories. I understand that the Bible is a story but it isn't great because it's a story it's great because it is reality and not just a story. Maybe I'm putting too much thought into it. I have enjoyed all of your talks, keep up the good work!
"Kill the dragon, get the girl." Love it. I would add a key piece of context in the story is that the girl ran to the arms of the dragon and does not consent to be rescued!
That's funny... I didn't even considered judging them because of the Bible he read... I judge by what he teaches... And I don't cut preachers any slack at all... Long as he keeps saying Bible truth, he can get it by osmosis for all I care
Sadly, most people don't want to hear anything that challenges their thinking or requires them to think 🙄 This type of teaching is too radical in comparison to contemporary Christianity
Correction, he actually did. His gave each animal for Adam to name, the serpent included. The serpent did not dare to tempt Adam because he knew that Adam was his superior and would not be deceived. It was through Eve, his help mate, that Adam was deceived.
Jesus did not pick fights, He told the Truth because He is The Truth, see John chapter 1v14, and John chapter `14v6, He was rejected because He was The Light of the world where the ruler of darkness, the Devil, reigns, and in the context of John chapter 6, the people followed Him because He gave them temporal life, and turned from Him, because He is Eternal Life, and Eternal Life is by eating Him, so that He might be in them. Eternal Salvation and Eternal Life is a person is not an intellectual doctrine, but an internal eternal reality
@@renasmith4332 oh he attacked them. Called them sons of the devil. That’s pretty tough stuff. No one says that it wasn’t righteous or correct though. The truth can be offensive.
I like the way Doug instructs people who think they know Jesus... But don't know scripture.... Personally I've read the whole Bible... And the God of all war was picking fights with ignorant humans all the way through it... Jesus could have just stayed at the house, and there would be no conflict... And no education for the masses of ignorant humans.... The tiger in the cage doesn't get mad at the stick unless you're poking him with it... I don't really see how this can be a point of contention, since it is recorded history and the Bible 🥰 have a blessed day!
Pray dangerously in Jesus name! I used to pray safely 02-19 I repented and I know that I am saved because to this day I am constantly repeating and repent for taking so long to Repent. It took so long to find the truth people who I trusted because they were saying you can trust me?? Their own words convict them. Check it out. Roman's 13:1 NIV Now brothers and sisters who have been Washed in the blood of Christ! My Father has forgiven me! Now my Father uses me as his few polished swords his forgiveness endures forever! He forgave me for believing the lie. Gold nugget. Roman's 13:1 KJV AND COMPARE They live! They live! M Jesus bless you! in all your times of character building!
''When every tear will have been dried''... is Doug Wilson aware his buddy the pied piper once said in one of his hedonism sessions that God may ordain tears in heaven for some...contrary to the clear teaching of scripture. I hope he picks his fights more in accordance with scripture than he picks his friends.
My version: "Beware when even a few men speak well of you." Especially when those men believe and teach Calvinistm, which is the true "besetting sin of the Evangelicals" at least here in North America, where the roots of Evangelicalism are Puritan, by and large. Bibliolatry/Cessationism is the besetting sin, for without the guidance of the Holy Spirit, there is no word of God, and without the Church there is no New Testament.
@@toddcote4904 Yes, brother Todd, things to think on. Let me clarify some of the terms: Calvinism: both the tradition and doctrine of the followers of Jean Calvin, emphasizing double predestination, that the elect are saved through no effort of their own and the damned are also predetermined by God and are hopelessly lost, lacking the ability from God to respond to the Gospel. Puritanism: Separatists from the Church of England who were influenced by Calvinism and who came to America on the Mayflower and later. Back in England there was a bloody Civil War, largely to religious differences, and the Puritans under Cromwell won. This was seen as evidence of God's approval. In America, the idea of being chosen factors into the whole culture and makes initial efforts to Christianize the Indians fail miserably. See: King Philip's War: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Philip%27s_War Later, with the rise of the Baptists, who spread southward, Calvinist theology alternates with its half-brother "Arminianism" creating what we know today in American Evangelicalism. (All this is a gross oversimplification, but I hope you get the idea: Calvinism plays a huge role in things that we take for granted.) Cessationism: The belief that when the canonical New Testament was compiled, the powerful works of the Holy Spirit and the nine "gifts" of the Holy Spirit were "ceased." These miraculous things were needed by the Apostles to promulgate the Gospel, but once we had the Bible, they were no longer needed and God took them away. This is the traditional Calvinist position, but there are many exceptions and a variety of opinions. In my opinion, Cessationism leads to "bibliolatry" as it replaces the resident Holy Spirit with the Bible. Not that the Bible is wrong in any way, but that without the Holy Spirit we can't really understand the Bible. Placing the Bible FIRST has the paradoxical result of creating countless heresies, most of them petty, but some quite serious. I hope this helps. Please comment.
@@duncescotus2342 I don't fit into any of the molds that are usually used (at the 10,000ft level) to disprove or discredit "Calvinism", better known as the Doctrines of Grace. For eg, "If someone just read the Bible alone, they would never come up with the Doctrines of Grace" Well, I did read it alone and came up with those doctrines, though never hearing about it for 30 years being in the church. I actually was a bit nervous because I thought I was the only one that believed it. I've learned much over the last 6 years of intense study and can thoroughly defend my positions from scripture alone. I don't need to cite John Calvin or any other man. I've listened to every debate that I could find, 100's of hours worth. I've tested it from every angle and against every counter argument. It's only confirmed what I've read from the scripture all along, that the Doctrines of Grace are true. However, I've engaged in 100's of YT conversations over the years and they seem pointless from the perspective of the 2 dialoguers. I do it generally for those that may read the comments in the future. If you'd like to ask a specific question, I'm happy to share my argument to defend it, but I'm not interested in "trying to prove you wrong" or any of the hostile attitude that usually goes along with the "comment section". I'm not going to be able to change your mind. So, God bless you on your journey with Jesus and may you be found faithful 'till the end. - Your brother in Christ.
@@toddcote4904 Well then forgive me for assuming your innocence (emoji?), but allow me to say this one thing: Grace is not the same as "the doctrines of grace." And also this: If I'm wrong, you have the obligation to prove me wrong, patiently, as the scripture says. And also this: Don't be so haughty about not fitting the molds. You likely fit well. My question? Have you ever asked to be filled with the Holy Spirit? Answer that, and then give me your best: tickle the TULIP for me. And my attitude? Somewhat hostile as is appropriate toward a stinking 500 year old heretical tradition. I curse any "journey" that doesn't go straight, my brother in Christ, for we do not serve a crooked God. "Faithful are the wounds of a friend."
@@duncescotus2342 What do you mean "asked to be filled with the Holy Spirit"? What verse are you using so I can better understand your context? I suspect "tickle the TULIP" is pretty cynical, so I don't think dwelling here is going to benefit either of us. If there's a specific question you'd like to ask.... Are you in the Roman Catholic tradition? You seem pretty hostile to the Protestant Reformation.
I believe he misspoke about the the sabbath. He said sat evening to sun evening. Replacement theology. That’s actually no where in the Bible. Um great teaching though.
I'm with you over here... Is teaching is so clear and concise I had already convinced myself he must be a Sabbath keeper... Nope... But I shared him with my family cuz they need to know all this stuff he's preaching
Protests etc don't accomplish anything. All those rallies mean nothing, they do not change minds. Redirect your focus more effectively. Focus on the future, and the long game: have lots of kids, train them carefully and in a Godly way, keep them out of the government schools, and teach them to do the same.
Jesus is Lucifer as he should have been. Jesus rebelled without letting himself be corrupted. This is a hopeful thought in current days where evil has been very visible. For those who do not believe. Here is a film reference: Gandalf to Aragorn: "Indeed I am Saruman, one might almost say, Saruman as he should have been. "
*Jesus did Not “pick fights” with people. He Rebuked the religious leaders and the rich, but hewas gentle with the poor and weak. Modern preachers have flipped this around and turned Christ’s ministry into an instruction manual on how to bully and oppress the marginalized and defend the powerful.* 🤬😡🤮😓
Evident by what you posted that you have eyes but don’t see and ears but cannot hear. You don’t get it. If you choose to, I can help break it down to you. Are forest fires really that bad? Google up and see what Mt St Hellens looks like today
@@Serif96 *NO You are blind & deaf to the Hebrew scriptures and to the Jewish Jesus. It’s ironic that I have to rebuke Christians here in these comments; they need to repent of cursing God’s people.*
Evident by your boldening your post there that I will pray for you as well with yoir hard heart. Jesus said there is no more Jew. You are either for him or against him. There is no reason to be Jewish or Christian. Just your personal relationship with Christ if you choose to have one. I am middle eastern by heritage and believe that Jesus died not just for me but for you too So with that grace........ Given to you....... You cannot earn your way into heaven by being a good Jewish or a good Christian person who is obedient with their religious practices. God and Jesus don't care They want your heart not your sacrifice. You should know this being who you said you are. Me? Im not a Christian. I am a Christ follower. Big difference. Gor fave Moses 10 laws By the Jesus came your forfathers turned those 10 laws into 613 Without The Lord's blessing That is why Jesus rebuked your forefathers. You will remember this conversation when its your time to stand before our father. Hopefully we will be able reminisce over this in His Kingdom when its our time to go home. If not...... We'll know why It's cool - you still got time May peace be with you brother
I'm pretty sure that is all incorrect... I have rebuked several in various contexts and multiple times... 80% of the time it results in a fight of at least heated words.... The other 20% involved actual Christians who actually believed the Bible... The last half of your post is probably semantically correct... The people actually categorize themselves... And we are supposed to call them out... So don't be too sad
Finding a robust antagonistic is not hard. He's in the mirror. Doug is all law and no gospel, all condemnation of the culture, no condemnation of himself.
Doug I don't like your style and point of view on how to criticize the words of Jesus. I suggest that you find another topic to talk about Doug ! You speak with no authority and talk total rubbish and you claim to be a Christian.
@@CanonPress i agree when we are attacked we should roll on our back and expose our bellies and Hope the enemy is not too hungry. I think that is what the original poster is alluding to. It has been working well for us we get to keep our stuff a little longer. Very Christian like.
I know good and well I've seen at least 15 of his videos... And I've read the Bible I have no idea how many times..,. I haven't heard him speak any rubbish at all... So.... Not sure about what study program you're following... Maybe a quick review and reevaluation is in order 🥰🥰 also I don't recall him criticizing Jesus in any way... Perhaps you misconstrued some of his satire
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"An idea of Jesus is not Jesus. It is an idol." Convicting.
Yep we must admit and seek the real Jesus no matter the cost. The cost can be high. My biggest struggle is the mother of my child. She seeks an easy Jesus. Was a hard lesson for me to learn
"There are people killing babies? Momma, i need to find my sword." 20:00 brought me to tears. Thank you for sharing.
Yeah that was pretty rough.
Same
Me too.
Me too.
Love it!!!
As a people pleasing person who claims to follow Christ I need this message. It’s time to stand firmly on the rock of truth and kick other’s balsa wood foundations out! 🙏🏽👊🏽
Same here.
I can relate. I started standing my ground along with cleaning up my act on any backsliding and praying on the subject. All the people making me miserable at work for following Jesus either quit, got let go, or sent to other jobs.🙂
That people pleasing nature is not of you. You repent from it by apologizing for resenting your mother for planting it in you and, if necessary, your father for not protecting you from that.
Yep & Voodie Baucham speak to US on the 11th Commandment. Thou Shalt BE NICE. too many of US FALL INTO THAT TRAP. Lambs before the Slaughter. Is only correct at Rare & Certain Times. God Bless You. Time to Play The Man !!!
Good luck! Being a Christian is the Hardest thing I have ever done because it's all invasive but it's the only truth. Being refined isn't fun but it IS rewarding. God is the perfect father :)
This is so powerful for me. I am new to Christianity. Doug Wilson’s speaking struck home to me regarding, “What is a story without an antagonist?" From early childhood onward, I have feared and even hated struggle, conflict and difficult challenges. I think that is why Captain Jame Tiberius Kirk of Star Trek, had been such a father figure for me. He embraced struggle and striving, while I feared and wished to avoid it at all costs; wishing only for resolution. I knew that there was some precious pearl in Kirk's attitude that I wished I could take in and live. Much to chew on and digest here. I am very appreciative for this video. Thank you for posting this.
Norm Babbitt welcome, brother
Awwww, kinda late welcome but..... welcome my new brotha !
Bless u brother keep the faith! I consider myself a kirk, for Jesus.
Instead of Captain Kirk, you now have Christ Kirk!
Norm I am greatly appreciative of your comment! God bless you!
I periodically listen to this sermon/talk because it's one of my favorites, Pastor Doug. God bless.
“You don’t establish truth by counting noses.”
I always said that Jesus regularly pared down his following with the truth.
Thank you for all that you do Doug! “Kill the dragon, get the girl” really resonated with me the first time I listened to this and have maybe said it once for every 100 times I’ve thought it. I came back to review this again as part of my test to if I’ve allowed ‘stinkin thinkin’ or wrong attitudes to enter into the fights I pick. Again thank you.
BTW, its was then Colonel ‘Chesty’ Puller at the battle for the Chosin Reservoir in Korea ~Nov 1950 who said “We're surrounded. That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them." The phrase ‘We're surrounded. That simplifies matters.’ Is often considered to be a faithful paraphrase in Marine Corps history/lore.
Semper Christus my brother.
Kill the Dragon. Get the Girl. Awesome summation!!!
🕊🙇🏽🧎🏼🥷🏼
This needs far more views. Lord have mercy
Considering NT Wright’s comment...
“The second concern is for the Christian discipleship that professes to follow the true Jesus. The disciplines of prayer and Bible study need to be rooted again and again in Jesus himself if they are not to become idolatrous or self-serving. We have often muted Jesus’ stark challenge, remaking him in our own image and then wondering why our personal spiritualities have become less than exciting and life-changing”
I'll amen to that!
That's why the catholic cult shows the baby Jesus and not the adult man and son of God - it made me sick as a child and does now. He who does not fears the divine will not be blessed by the divine. Johann Sebastian Bach signed all his compositions: All glory to God. When our father sees we seek his wisdom and judge ourselves - there is Grace 🤗
I am still amazed that idols continue to spring up, even though you just got done toppling the latest one(that's visible to you)..."what?? how long has this been here?" Thank you for yet another readjustment of the lens to see our Lord, how He really was and is.
“The besetting sin of the evangelical = being nice .”😳🤦♀️
Never are we TOLD TO BE Nice!
It is an expectation that non believing people set
The first minute really hit home to me. I thought it was just me that said that in my head.
When I first became a "Christian" there were definitely some people that purposely kept pushing me trying to get a certain reaction specifically so they could tell me how a "Real Christian" should react. Thankfully, when I do my best to live according to His word, and pray, God seems to remove these people from my life. 🙏
I think I just found a Doug Wilson video with which I can totally agree from start to finish!
Faaaaaaantastic!!!
Just going through your video this is the first one I hearing.. I am excited about the topics you cover they are on point with what things I think about myself . God bless you sir love from Arkansas NWA
This was solid.
Man!!! This is great teaching! Thank you.
I love this MAN! God bless Doug Wilson and his family.
Love the sound of appreciative male laughter.
The expiry date for therapeutic deism is fast approaching.
Shadrach's sweet story. 😭 What a mighty, little hero. Praise God!
His bravery puts me to shame.
God bless you guys.
Rightly dividing the Holy Word of Truth, certainly Approved; Glory †o YHWH!
Giant turnips on Jupiter! Love it!
John Warren i’ll take 3 please
20:19 the line from her child “I need to find my sword” cut me to my soul.
Creativity, complexity, comprehensiveness, completeness - these are all things that can involve 'conflict' to achieve - without implying an inherent evil needing to be overcome.
Worship itself implies the lack predicated by it's non-existence. Into nothing, something... and heaven and God allow for that newness on into eternity.
If we're like Him, and he's a creator (the creator), we can theorize that we will continue to make things that reflect God's image and truth, nothing new (outside of God) but new recombinations of Him in ways we've yet to discover and understand.
God bless you sir
Excellent.
Great message! Thank you, Pastor Doug.
Incredible message, mind and ministry. Thank you
Thank you for putting these out there Doug - very very challenging, heartening and informative - for me anyway
from the notebook at the top of the Brandberg in Namibia:
"Clays lie still but blood's a rover
Breath's a ware that doesn't keep
Up lad
When this journey's over
There'll be time enough for sleep"
Thank you. Thank you King Jesus.
Great illustrations, powerful truths, and spiritual insights that everyone needs to hear. Well done, good and faithful servant.
Praise God I came across this!
I'm in stitches five minutes in lolololol.
This sounds about right! And I find it joyous and refreshing!
Wonderful teaching. Thank you.
And that quote from “some General” about the act of planning before a battle being absolutely essential, and the plans being fairly useless once the battle has begun, is simply priceless to me as a homeschooling mother. I experience this every Summer and Fall.
Amen!
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Amen
Maranatha
So funny to hear him w/o hearing, “Teach me how to Dougie!” interjected when he makes a good point.
sad or nah???
What a fantastic message. His statement about there being 30 acres of grounds that Christ chased the money changers out of with His whip is something I have not heard before. This is the real Jesus, the One who fights to defend Truth and calls evil, evil and good, good. This is not the Jesus many are hearing about in their 'churches.'
Clearing the temple was a modern day equivalent of going into your local city hall and chasing everybody out ,or your local police departments, your local courthouse, wherever wherever business is done
3:45
HAHA amen.
Luke 6 26, amen.
15:32
Amen.
17:57
Glory to God.
Yashua said “ I go to prepare a place for you in my Fathers house are many mansions.” The universe is vast. Every galaxy is a grain of sand to Yahweh or a mansion. Prepare your hearts sons of Adam and daughters of Eve and stand faithful to the King of kings and Lord of lords.
"I am willing to fight fellow Christians when the analogy of scripture
demands it. I'm unwilling to fight faithful Baptists, Methodists, Charismatics, and so on, even though we have marked differences: David and Jonathan. I'm more than willing to fight with Bishop Spong, with Bishop Robinson at al, like Elisha fights with Ahab. I don't fight with them fight with them because they are not in the covenant, I fight with them because they are: you can't represent Christ that way, you're you're representing Christ and no, you can't do that. Lastly, I am reluctantly willing to fight defensively with conservative believers who've taken it into their heads to launch an unnecessary attack on us eg David and Saul: David didn't want to be fighting with Saul but Saul was chasing David."
Thank you for transcribing. It's so worth a re-read.
The unfortunate truth is, this video will be viewed more when it's too late.
I do not agree with Doug Wilson on the Federal Vision. But the last two sermons on RUclips were very good.
Sooo... are you an abolitionist? Or incrementalist? It seems like your an abolitionist Pastor Doug! Thank you
The wisdom of babes. 3 year old knows heads should be rolling if babies is being killed. Namby pamby evanjellyfish think the death penalty is cruel
I unfortunately think the kid was afraid for his own life and felt he needed his sword to protect himself.
@@skubz81 why do you think that?
@@jpfiero Because I think at that age the sense of self preservation is stronger than the knowledge right and wrong.
@@skubz81 depends how they are raised, I had almost no fear at that age.
Preach!
Spong in the covenant? sounds plausible, cherub!
Thank. You paster
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"Beware when all men speak well of you, that's the treatment false prophets get." Killer!
I love you Doug, and I really liked a lot of the things you said here, (not that you will ever read this necessarily.) But some of this I just can't put my finger on. You are right that every story has an antagonist and that there is a lot of conflict, heaven most likely will have work, but I think the story of redemption isn't great because it has an antagonist or because there is conflict it always comes back to Christ's love. So when we tell stories in heaven (of we hypothetically do that) I would think that the stories would possibly bore our earthly human minds because it would be repeatedly simply giving God glory. Doesn't Isaiah talk about the seraphim with 6 wings saying Holy Holy Holy. Essentially forever? I would think in heaven our stories will be antagonist free and still be amazing to our glorified ears. Also as a logical side I thought that part was simply presupposing that life or heaven was about stories. I understand that the Bible is a story but it isn't great because it's a story it's great because it is reality and not just a story. Maybe I'm putting too much thought into it. I have enjoyed all of your talks, keep up the good work!
Reality is a story though, no?
Remember that Adam&Eve were given a job before the Fall. The challenge of that Creation Mandate remains.
' Kill the Dragon ... Get the Girl.'
Dragonslayer.
Mike tyson: it’s good to have a plan till you get punched in the face!!!!!
"Kill the dragon, get the girl." Love it. I would add a key piece of context in the story is that the girl ran to the arms of the dragon and does not consent to be rescued!
You and Jordan Peterson needa have a serious talk soon!!!!
I am looking for my sword...i was okay until then.
Sad, Doug Wilson gave up the King James Version for copyright perversion.
That's funny... I didn't even considered judging them because of the Bible he read... I judge by what he teaches... And I don't cut preachers any slack at all... Long as he keeps saying Bible truth, he can get it by osmosis for all I care
his voice is like an octave lower then normal in this lecture. Why lmao
Clearly upper and lower respiratory distress..
Wish these events looked a little more like the gatherings of Jesus.
We talking wilderness and everyone very hungry?
I was there at the event. It was pretty sloppy and slushy outside, notbsure how well we would've sat on a hillside
28k views and under 1k thumbs up ?? What’s that Is this more Google suppression
Ok
Keep a Sunday Sabbath....that's weird
Sadly, most people don't want to hear anything that challenges their thinking or requires them to think 🙄
This type of teaching is too radical in comparison to contemporary Christianity
Like John Lewis…Good Trouble
Poor Doug sounds congested.
Just a funny thought, Adam may have slain the dragon if he hadn’t got the girl in advance.
Correction, he actually did. His gave each animal for Adam to name, the serpent included. The serpent did not dare to tempt Adam because he knew that Adam was his superior and would not be deceived. It was through Eve, his help mate, that Adam was deceived.
Pretty sure it's heresy to suggest there'd be turnips in the New Creation.
Wat wat wat?
Says somebody who doesn't like turnip greens 🤣🤣🤣
Jesus did not pick fights, He told the Truth because He is The Truth, see John chapter 1v14, and John chapter `14v6, He was rejected because He was The Light of the world where the ruler of darkness, the Devil, reigns, and in the context of John chapter 6, the people followed Him because He gave them temporal life, and turned from Him, because He is Eternal Life, and Eternal Life is by eating Him, so that He might be in them.
Eternal Salvation and Eternal Life is a person is not an intellectual doctrine, but an internal eternal reality
Exactly!
And I must say this message of Wilson sends the wrong signal or message to a baby sheep who isn't mature in Christ
I agree. The Gospel creates division but it’s a natural division. It’s not Jesus attacking evil. It’s Truth showing itself in the midst of lies.
@@renasmith4332 oh he attacked them. Called them sons of the devil. That’s pretty tough stuff. No one says that it wasn’t righteous or correct though. The truth can be offensive.
I like the way Doug instructs people who think they know Jesus... But don't know scripture.... Personally I've read the whole Bible... And the God of all war was picking fights with ignorant humans all the way through it... Jesus could have just stayed at the house, and there would be no conflict... And no education for the masses of ignorant humans.... The tiger in the cage doesn't get mad at the stick unless you're poking him with it... I don't really see how this can be a point of contention, since it is recorded history and the Bible 🥰 have a blessed day!
Who is taking the time to listen to this just to dislike the vid lol
There's a dedicated brood of crazy people that hate watch.
Non-christians who don't believe in the Bible... Sorry I guess that's the standard answer LOL LOL
Pray dangerously in Jesus name!
I used to pray safely
02-19
I repented and I know that I am saved because to this day I am constantly repeating and repent for taking so long to Repent.
It took so long to find the truth people who I trusted because they were saying you can trust me??
Their own words convict them.
Check it out.
Roman's 13:1 NIV
Now brothers and sisters who have been Washed in the blood of Christ! My Father has forgiven me!
Now my Father uses me as his few polished swords his forgiveness endures forever! He forgave me for believing the lie.
Gold nugget.
Roman's 13:1 KJV AND COMPARE
They live!
They live!
M Jesus bless you! in all your times of character building!
''When every tear will have been dried''... is Doug Wilson aware his buddy the pied piper once said in one of his hedonism sessions that God may ordain tears in heaven for some...contrary to the clear teaching of scripture. I hope he picks his fights more in accordance with scripture than he picks his friends.
My version: "Beware when even a few men speak well of you." Especially when those men believe and teach Calvinistm, which is the true "besetting sin of the Evangelicals" at least here in North America, where the roots of Evangelicalism are Puritan, by and large. Bibliolatry/Cessationism is the besetting sin, for without the guidance of the Holy Spirit, there is no word of God, and without the Church there is no New Testament.
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@@toddcote4904 Yes, brother Todd, things to think on.
Let me clarify some of the terms:
Calvinism: both the tradition and doctrine of the followers of Jean Calvin, emphasizing double predestination, that the elect are saved through no effort of their own and the damned are also predetermined by God and are hopelessly lost, lacking the ability from God to respond to the Gospel.
Puritanism: Separatists from the Church of England who were influenced by Calvinism and who came to America on the Mayflower and later. Back in England there was a bloody Civil War, largely to religious differences, and the Puritans under Cromwell won. This was seen as evidence of God's approval. In America, the idea of being chosen factors into the whole culture and makes initial efforts to Christianize the Indians fail miserably. See: King Philip's War:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Philip%27s_War
Later, with the rise of the Baptists, who spread southward, Calvinist theology alternates with its half-brother "Arminianism" creating what we know today in American Evangelicalism.
(All this is a gross oversimplification, but I hope you get the idea: Calvinism plays a huge role in things that we take for granted.)
Cessationism: The belief that when the canonical New Testament was compiled, the powerful works of the Holy Spirit and the nine "gifts" of the Holy Spirit were "ceased." These miraculous things were needed by the Apostles to promulgate the Gospel, but once we had the Bible, they were no longer needed and God took them away. This is the traditional Calvinist position, but there are many exceptions and a variety of opinions.
In my opinion, Cessationism leads to "bibliolatry" as it replaces the resident Holy Spirit with the Bible. Not that the Bible is wrong in any way, but that without the Holy Spirit we can't really understand the Bible. Placing the Bible FIRST has the paradoxical result of creating countless heresies, most of them petty, but some quite serious.
I hope this helps. Please comment.
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I don't fit into any of the molds that are usually used (at the 10,000ft level) to disprove or discredit "Calvinism", better known as the Doctrines of Grace. For eg, "If someone just read the Bible alone, they would never come up with the Doctrines of Grace" Well, I did read it alone and came up with those doctrines, though never hearing about it for 30 years being in the church. I actually was a bit nervous because I thought I was the only one that believed it.
I've learned much over the last 6 years of intense study and can thoroughly defend my positions from scripture alone. I don't need to cite John Calvin or any other man. I've listened to every debate that I could find, 100's of hours worth. I've tested it from every angle and against every counter argument. It's only confirmed what I've read from the scripture all along, that the Doctrines of Grace are true.
However, I've engaged in 100's of YT conversations over the years and they seem pointless from the perspective of the 2 dialoguers. I do it generally for those that may read the comments in the future.
If you'd like to ask a specific question, I'm happy to share my argument to defend it, but I'm not interested in "trying to prove you wrong" or any of the hostile attitude that usually goes along with the "comment section".
I'm not going to be able to change your mind. So, God bless you on your journey with Jesus and may you be found faithful 'till the end.
- Your brother in Christ.
@@toddcote4904 Well then forgive me for assuming your innocence (emoji?), but allow me to say this one thing: Grace is not the same as "the doctrines of grace."
And also this: If I'm wrong, you have the obligation to prove me wrong, patiently, as the scripture says.
And also this: Don't be so haughty about not fitting the molds. You likely fit well.
My question? Have you ever asked to be filled with the Holy Spirit?
Answer that, and then give me your best: tickle the TULIP for me.
And my attitude? Somewhat hostile as is appropriate toward a stinking 500 year old heretical tradition. I curse any "journey" that doesn't go straight, my brother in Christ, for we do not serve a crooked God.
"Faithful are the wounds of a friend."
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What do you mean "asked to be filled with the Holy Spirit"?
What verse are you using so I can better understand your context?
I suspect "tickle the TULIP" is pretty cynical, so I don't think dwelling here is going to benefit either of us. If there's a specific question you'd like to ask....
Are you in the Roman Catholic tradition? You seem pretty hostile to the Protestant Reformation.
I believe he misspoke about the the sabbath. He said sat evening to sun evening. Replacement theology. That’s actually no where in the Bible. Um great teaching though.
I'm with you over here... Is teaching is so clear and concise I had already convinced myself he must be a Sabbath keeper... Nope... But I shared him with my family cuz they need to know all this stuff he's preaching
Repentance is from dead works, not sin.
Do not dead works originate from a heart of sin?
Dead works is what sin is.. once you've read the entire Bible you will see that clear day no problem 🥰
Protests etc don't accomplish anything. All those rallies mean nothing, they do not change minds. Redirect your focus more effectively. Focus on the future, and the long game: have lots of kids, train them carefully and in a Godly way, keep them out of the government schools, and teach them to do the same.
he is a chess player ALRIGHT
Jesus is Lucifer as he should have been. Jesus rebelled without letting himself be corrupted. This is a hopeful thought in current days where evil has been very visible.
For those who do not believe. Here is a film reference: Gandalf to Aragorn:
"Indeed I am Saruman, one might almost say, Saruman as he should have been. "
*Jesus did Not “pick fights” with people. He Rebuked the religious leaders and the rich, but hewas gentle with the poor and weak. Modern preachers have flipped this around and turned Christ’s ministry into an instruction manual on how to bully and oppress the marginalized and defend the powerful.* 🤬😡🤮😓
Evident by what you posted that you have eyes but don’t see and ears but cannot hear. You don’t get it. If you choose to, I can help break it down to you.
Are forest fires really that bad?
Google up and see what Mt St Hellens looks like today
@Casus Belli rebuke is Not “picking fights” and a call to repentance is an invitation not a rebuke
@@Serif96 *NO You are blind & deaf to the Hebrew scriptures and to the Jewish Jesus. It’s ironic that I have to rebuke Christians here in these comments; they need to repent of cursing God’s people.*
Evident by your boldening your post there that I will pray for you as well with yoir hard heart.
Jesus said there is no more Jew. You are either for him or against him.
There is no reason to be Jewish or Christian.
Just your personal relationship with Christ if you choose to have one.
I am middle eastern by heritage and believe that Jesus died not just for me but for you too
So with that grace........ Given to you....... You cannot earn your way into heaven by being a good Jewish or a good Christian person who is obedient with their religious practices. God and Jesus don't care
They want your heart not your sacrifice. You should know this being who you said you are.
Me? Im not a Christian. I am a Christ follower. Big difference.
Gor fave Moses 10 laws
By the Jesus came your forfathers turned those 10 laws into 613
Without The Lord's blessing
That is why Jesus rebuked your forefathers.
You will remember this conversation when its your time to stand before our father. Hopefully we will be able reminisce over this in His Kingdom when its our time to go home.
If not...... We'll know why
It's cool - you still got time
May peace be with you brother
I'm pretty sure that is all incorrect... I have rebuked several in various contexts and multiple times... 80% of the time it results in a fight of at least heated words.... The other 20% involved actual Christians who actually believed the Bible... The last half of your post is probably semantically correct... The people actually categorize themselves... And we are supposed to call them out... So don't be too sad
I love this guy. Todd Friel sucks though
All this and no torah. so sad.
You're picking the wrong fight...
Finding a robust antagonistic is not hard. He's in the mirror. Doug is all law and no gospel, all condemnation of the culture, no condemnation of himself.
I think girls are sweet...
I think girls are girls..... woooah slow down there apologist
Awesome!
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Doug I don't like your style and point of view on how to criticize the words of Jesus. I suggest that you find another topic to talk about Doug ! You speak with no authority and talk total rubbish and you claim to be a Christian.
We expected a better job of picking a fight after watching the video . . .
@@CanonPress i agree when we are attacked we should roll on our back and expose our bellies and Hope the enemy is not too hungry. I think that is what the original poster is alluding to. It has been working well for us we get to keep our stuff a little longer. Very Christian like.
I know good and well I've seen at least 15 of his videos... And I've read the Bible I have no idea how many times..,. I haven't heard him speak any rubbish at all... So.... Not sure about what study program you're following... Maybe a quick review and reevaluation is in order 🥰🥰 also I don't recall him criticizing Jesus in any way... Perhaps you misconstrued some of his satire
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Excellent.