Again, the similarities of our builds is eerie. I too have a Borgeson box and it feels so nice compared to the overboosted trash Ford made for these cars. It does improve the ratio. 20:1 is the stock, 14:1 on the Borgeson. I'm sure you are loving that much more responsive feel and yes, all of those hoses and brackets and unnecessary junk is gone. Congrats man, go enjoy it.
That’s funny, great minds really do think alike! Yeah it wasn’t until I looked back at the two videos side by side that the quick ratio became obvious. I think the fact that the stock was overboosted gave it a quick feel, but man I was turning the wheel about halfway around before I saw the car move. Anyway, good riddance and I’ll definitely be putting some miles on this bad boy.
Definitely worth it in my opinion. I was looking into rebuilding or replacing the stock stuff, it gets very expensive real quick. And I’m all about simplifying things wherever I can.
Congratulations pal, that was a pretty big engineering crap burger to down, in one sitting!! I've had my Dad's 65 coupe, since 1987, and have been working on it, and this PS system, since I was 12 yrs old.. I've resealed my old system three times, In 37 years ! A decent, rebuild-able PS control core, is essential to getting the old system, to be reliable.. Though they are all used up, for the most part now. It makes no sense, to pay $300 bucks for a new PS control valve, and all of replacement hoses and then the Ram, when the Borgeson box is available.. I'm doing a 65 FB, and just installed the new Borgeson box. Engine is ordered. Just loved video here, you threw everything you had at it. So happy 😁 to see you get a "win" on this task . Keep at it brother...
Thank you sir! I’m happy to hear all the good feedback about the Borgeson box. I’m all about fixing things once and forgetting about them, it would have driven me crazy if it started leaking again eventually. Good luck on your fastback project!
I just got some of the bits to do the borgeson in my 67. I decided to change out the drag / center link, idler, and pitman arm to the manual type. I bought my bits alacart and it was cheaper than buying the kit. Looking for to getting it installed.
Well done. As a past owner of a 1968 straight six like yours (other than mine was red with a black vinyl roof) I'm following your progress with interest. Swapping the motor to a V8 was beyond my capabilities back in 1975, and still is now I'm 71. I live in the UK where US car parts availability and prices and lack of a garage to work in were also deterring factors. What are your next steps, do you intend any underbody de rusting and preservation and restoring the interior ?
Thanks! That’s a pretty cool car to have in the UK, must not be too many of the over there. I think for now I’m gonna put some miles on it, no real rust issues down here in southern California and interior is good enough for cruising. I’ll probably do a repaint and restoration eventually, for now I’ll just enjoy it 👍
@@noboltsleftbehind The car certainly turned heads at the time when the Bullitt movie was still fresh in people's minds. I loved the car despite being left hand drive on our narrow country roads gave a few buttock clenching moments. 😂. Please keep posting progress, I can't wait to see the final result.
Thanks man! I considered something aftermarket especially after installing the stamped steel stock types. I'll probably get something more serious when I start phase 2 of the build 👍
I truly enjoyed watching your build of this car and I have two questions on Supply. What headers are you using on the car? I missed it if you told about it and with the AOD transmission did you have any work done to the transmission itself thanks for your good work and will look forward to more videos from you.
Thanks! The headers are Holley part number 6901HKR . I didn't have anything done to the transmission, just dropped it straight into the Mustang. So far so good!
Did you have any issues adapting the 5.0's Power Steering pump to your Borgeson box? I'm getting close to dropping mine in and wanted to know ahead of time if I needed to switch pumps or have any special adapters or lines made.
The OEM Explorer pump seems to work great with the Borgeson box, no modifications needed. I got some adapters to turn the pump high pressure port and both of the the Borgeson box's ports to 6AN. I had a hydraulic shop make me a custom high pressure AN hose (or JIC as they call it) to the right length and clocking.
There may be some extra wires but it isn’t really more cluttered than what an original small block would have been. And you don’t have to work in the modern stuff nearly as much 😉
Gone through the same with my 69 this winter. So happy with the Borgeson setup. Great video!
Great install video! I like how you took the time to let everyone see the frustration and complication of all the leak points in the factory system.
Again, the similarities of our builds is eerie. I too have a Borgeson box and it feels so nice compared to the overboosted trash Ford made for these cars. It does improve the ratio. 20:1 is the stock, 14:1 on the Borgeson. I'm sure you are loving that much more responsive feel and yes, all of those hoses and brackets and unnecessary junk is gone. Congrats man, go enjoy it.
That’s funny, great minds really do think alike! Yeah it wasn’t until I looked back at the two videos side by side that the quick ratio became obvious. I think the fact that the stock was overboosted gave it a quick feel, but man I was turning the wheel about halfway around before I saw the car move. Anyway, good riddance and I’ll definitely be putting some miles on this bad boy.
I've been wanting to do this conversion on my 70 Cougar for years. Looks soo worth it!
Definitely worth it in my opinion. I was looking into rebuilding or replacing the stock stuff, it gets very expensive real quick. And I’m all about simplifying things wherever I can.
Excellent
One more thing off the list!
Yes sir! And the last big thing off the list.
Oh man that looked fun 😅. Awesome to see this thing is almost done after a long drive shake down. Looking forward to seeing it on a dyno
Congratulations pal, that was a pretty big engineering crap burger to down, in one sitting!!
I've had my Dad's 65 coupe, since 1987, and have been working on it, and this PS system, since I was 12 yrs old.. I've resealed my old system three times, In 37 years ! A decent, rebuild-able PS control core, is essential to getting the old system, to be reliable.. Though they are all used up, for the most part now. It makes no sense, to pay $300 bucks for a new PS control valve, and all of replacement hoses and then the Ram, when the Borgeson box is available.. I'm doing a 65 FB, and just installed the new Borgeson box. Engine is ordered. Just loved video here, you threw everything you had at it.
So happy 😁 to see you get a "win" on this task . Keep at it brother...
Thank you sir! I’m happy to hear all the good feedback about the Borgeson box. I’m all about fixing things once and forgetting about them, it would have driven me crazy if it started leaking again eventually. Good luck on your fastback project!
Cool video! Thanks!
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I just got some of the bits to do the borgeson in my 67. I decided to change out the drag / center link, idler, and pitman arm to the manual type. I bought my bits alacart and it was cheaper than buying the kit. Looking for to getting it installed.
Nice! Good luck on the project 👍
Now I know why it’s taken you a few weeks to post something! A for effort on trying to solve this the old fashion way first though.
Man every build, without fail the power steering is the one thing that always kicks my butt. Took me a while but figured it out eventually 🤘
@@noboltsleftbehind Yeah, weird to think you put a Toyota part in a Challenger to make it work!
Well done. As a past owner of a 1968 straight six like yours (other than mine was red with a black vinyl roof) I'm following your progress with interest. Swapping the motor to a V8 was beyond my capabilities back in 1975, and still is now I'm 71. I live in the UK where US car parts availability and prices and lack of a garage to work in were also deterring factors. What are your next steps, do you intend any underbody de rusting and preservation and restoring the interior ?
Thanks! That’s a pretty cool car to have in the UK, must not be too many of the over there. I think for now I’m gonna put some miles on it, no real rust issues down here in southern California and interior is good enough for cruising. I’ll probably do a repaint and restoration eventually, for now I’ll just enjoy it 👍
@@noboltsleftbehind The car certainly turned heads at the time when the Bullitt movie was still fresh in people's minds. I loved the car despite being left hand drive on our narrow country roads gave a few buttock clenching moments. 😂. Please keep posting progress, I can't wait to see the final result.
Awesome video as always!! Have you thought about upgrading the upper control arms to global west or another style??
Thanks man! I considered something aftermarket especially after installing the stamped steel stock types. I'll probably get something more serious when I start phase 2 of the build 👍
I truly enjoyed watching your build of this car and I have two questions on Supply. What headers are you using on the car? I missed it if you told about it and with the AOD transmission did you have any work done to the transmission itself thanks for your good work and will look forward to more videos from you.
Thanks! The headers are Holley part number 6901HKR . I didn't have anything done to the transmission, just dropped it straight into the Mustang. So far so good!
If you go to a smaller steering wheel it will feel more like a modern sports car
Very good call
Did you have any issues adapting the 5.0's Power Steering pump to your Borgeson box? I'm getting close to dropping mine in and wanted to know ahead of time if I needed to switch pumps or have any special adapters or lines made.
The OEM Explorer pump seems to work great with the Borgeson box, no modifications needed. I got some adapters to turn the pump high pressure port and both of the the Borgeson box's ports to 6AN. I had a hydraulic shop make me a custom high pressure AN hose (or JIC as they call it) to the right length and clocking.
This is dope, I need some jackstands like that. What's that drill adapter called that you used in the beginning?
It’s a Dewalt right angle drill adapter, gotta be one of the most useful things I’ve ever bought.
@@noboltsleftbehind nice, what are the rear jack stands called?
@@infamousnova Race Ramps, they’re awesome
You got lucky your steering wasn't off center
Do you mean the pitman arm being out of alignment? It’s keyed, so it only fits one way.
I understand the benefits of the newer parts and systems, but your engine bay is so cluttered now, doesn’t that affect your ability to work on it?
There may be some extra wires but it isn’t really more cluttered than what an original small block would have been. And you don’t have to work in the modern stuff nearly as much 😉