Today I filmed Aguila .380 ACP 95 gr FMJ VS Aguila Interceptor 40 gr RN. I want to also mention that I have a lot better content filmed and ready to release, but I am releasing the cheaper tests for the time being until I get remonetized. If you didn't know, that happened to me and should be fixed within the next couple of weeks.
I do like 380 for urban environments. In today’s demonstration it showed that a 380 will have about enough energy to exit the intended target. That means (2) holes of 0.355 diameter.
I never thought I'd see a .380 FMJ that I might be comfortable carrying but push-come-to-shove and shelves be empty, I gotta say, I wouldn't say no to toting the Blazer. The .22 did better than I thought, too.
Thanks for testing the 22 blazer through your mdf board. I would really like to see how the economical Aguila super extra 40 grain copper washed round nose does on your real world test also. There might not be major differences from your other rounds tested ,but any extra little bit of penetration on such a marginal round is important I believe. CCI and Aguila have been the most reliable brands overall in my pistols as far as consistent ignition and powder charge .
You got the NAA mini in that caliber too? I love mine. Only holds one and I can only fire one shot per month between recover time, but it's the perfect threat stopper.
I think 22 stopping power also has something to do with the type of ammo. I've owned and shot many pistols and I'm well aware that the larger calibers are more effective, but I think better ammo can give you marginally better results. You still should rapidly hit four or five times with a 22 just to be sure, lol.
Just purchased a new P22Q…my first semi auto 22pistol. Based on this analysis, I’ll get me some of that Blazer for initial trials. Thanks again to “Gel Sam” for providing the demo’s and info we all need 👍✌️
I love the 38s and 32s (not to mention the 44s) but my guess is that being able to put 2 or 3 40 grain Blazers into the upper torso in the time it takes to come back down out of recoil with the bigger rounds might even the score a little bit.
GS. Good video and interesting comparison. Thanks for sharing. Before the issues of the last two years Blazer .22's was one of the main .22's at the gun stores near me. I think I still have a brick or two of them left over. Take care.
Interesting statistical data you shared at the end. Could you share where that data came from? Pretty sure it wasn't the study published by Greg Ellifritz (don't remember his data including stopping the downward strike of a knife attacker). His study was based on actual analysis of reported defensive handgun use (real world). Other studies I've seen were based on supposition using power factors. I do appreciate the work you do. It's very informative.
I have never seen any Greg Ellifritz studies that were specific to the brand of ammo or bullet style other than caliber by caliber vaguely. I prefer the older Sanow and Marshall and Goats at Strasbourg to get a better overall feel for particular loads because they are listed specifically with the barrel length/gun used, which was easy to know being duty guns. If you could show me where Greg Ellifritz lists specific ammunition manufacturers, guns used in these real shootings - than I will take a look.
@@GunSamHis research was based strictly on actual reported shooting encounters where caliber used was known. Specific loads, velocities, bullet weights or types, barrel lengths, etc., are rarely if ever available in police reporting. I was mostly interested in your source for 98% one shot stops preventing personal injury, under the scenario you described, for .357 magnums and 21% for .22 rimfire. Not saying it's wrong, just curious. In my experience, for that scenario, 98% would be a stretch, even 21% for .22 rimfire would. Again, this is not criticism, just curiosity about the source of those statistics. I really appreciate what you are doing and look forward to your testing.
@@dennisbrummett3047 I can't name any source other than what I recall from memory of reading several articles in Combat Handguns Magazine years ago written by Mas Ayoob. He quoted 96.7% I think it was for .357 Mag. It may have even been as high as 97% later on. Since one shot stops were only ever the recorded result, we cannot completely rely on those stats since if another shot or multiple shots were fired and the target stopped, it was not recorded although the first shot may very well have been the fight ender. Personally I would love to see new collected data on shootings since 2015 or so. Maybe even just in the last three years.
ASP has a lot of videos (not the blah, blah and buy my merchandise) that show some criminals do not stop when a victim defends themselves. The criminals may shoot while running away or worse. I think 22lr is lethal but agree with G.S. it may not stop some violent incidents as quickly as desired. So even though a "psychological stop" with a 22lr is probable (in most incidents?), the times when the the psychological, with a 22lr, stop doesn't work I assume the pucker factor goes way up. However, the criminal John Hinckley Jr. caused two people to fall flat and President Reagan to be seriously injured, with only a cheap 22lr snubbie. That was not a defensive situation however. ASP is a great repository of videos that make me think "what would I do in this situation or how and when is the best time to get to safety. So I put up with the content I don't go there for. I'm not sure I made a argument for or against 22lr!
Probably. About a half inch barrel when already that short, isn't going to make any measurable difference with a cartridge as low down in power as .22 LR
I'm going to simplify this. I ran like 4 different FMJ's through this pistol, and ALL were 170-180 ft lbs, and every one did basically exactly like this round. All of them averaged like 23" or so. Edit; listing ammo tested (not in one video) PMC Bronze 90 gr, American Eagle 95 gr, Blazer 95 gr, Aguila 95 gr.
Hey Sam, can I ask your advice? I wanted your opinion if you think it is worth getting a 357 rifle. I understand that it creates more power and more accuracy. But from my research, it doesn't say you can take bigger game and the effective range is similar to a revolver 50 to 100 yards. Am I missing something? Or do you agree.
If you can place a 22 in the left eye socket of an assalent every time at a distance of seven paces, then a 22 is all you should ever need. If you cant garrantee that type of accuracy than you need to start carrying the largest most powerful pistol you can handle, and this is important, and AFFORD to practice with to maintain proficiency! Nuff said!...
Maybe, but when some witness lies and says "he was saying i'm shooting to kill as he point blank eye shot him"....how are you going to tell a jury you were in fear and shot only to stop a threat? Makes more sense to shoot like a normal person lol
Mostly, because after going through 19" of gel along with 1/4" MDF, at the end of that block 19" in - there's not much steam on those bullets. What that means is that bullets that would have penetrated to 19", 20", 21", 22", 23" and so on, would ALL show that they all went to 19" because at that point the MDF will just stop them all. I'd rather have more specific differences shown in gel than that. Not to mention, most ammo tests I do with hollow points never reach 19". The only time I could ever see it mattering, is if I was testing 240 gr .44 Mag and similar.
i'll also add, that the first MDF piece is not so much a simulation of a human rib barrier, as much as it is a variable to change the bullet structure the way it does in a real mammal, ie deformation etc - sort of a glorified denim barrier. At the end of the block, the bullet is already as deformed as it is going to ever be.
I feel like basic Gold Dot or Hydrashok is better. The stats on them are really old and show them to be effective no matter if expansion happens or not.
I really haven't seen much difference in velocity between my 2.75" LCP and 3.68" Shield EZ. Only when the ammo is a lot hotter like, labeled +P or something, does the extra length of the Shield EZ make a difference. Much of the better performance overall for accuracy - which the Shield EZ is better at, is probably due to the pistol being bigger and easier to shoot.
Today I filmed Aguila .380 ACP 95 gr FMJ VS Aguila Interceptor 40 gr RN. I want to also mention that I have a lot better content filmed and ready to release, but I am releasing the cheaper tests for the time being until I get remonetized. If you didn't know, that happened to me and should be fixed within the next couple of weeks.
Hope you get everything worked out with your channel. Thanks for all you do to test for us.
If I recall correctly, .380 is the most common civilian caliber in Mexico.
I do like 380 for urban environments.
In today’s demonstration it showed that a 380 will have about enough energy to exit the intended target.
That means (2) holes of 0.355 diameter.
I never thought I'd see a .380 FMJ that I might be comfortable carrying but push-come-to-shove and shelves be empty, I gotta say, I wouldn't say no to toting the Blazer.
The .22 did better than I thought, too.
Thanks for testing the 22 blazer through your mdf board. I would really like to see how the economical Aguila super extra 40 grain copper washed round nose does on your real world test also. There might not be major differences from your other rounds tested ,but any extra little bit of penetration on such a marginal round is important I believe. CCI and Aguila have been the most reliable brands overall in my pistols as far as consistent ignition and powder charge .
That 22 is impressive
Pretty good .22lr. I carry 100gr. fnfmj in a pocket .380. No worry about barrier/penatration.
380 fmj vs windshield 😍
Your point at the end about using a round that can stop an attacking motion is why I conceal carry a 50 BMG.
You got the NAA mini in that caliber too? I love mine. Only holds one and I can only fire one shot per month between recover time, but it's the perfect threat stopper.
Thanks for that test and commentary.
I think 22 stopping power also has something to do with the type of ammo. I've owned and shot many pistols and I'm well aware that the larger calibers are more effective, but I think better ammo can give you marginally better results. You still should rapidly hit four or five times with a 22 just to be sure, lol.
From France : excellent review, thanks
Just purchased a new P22Q…my first semi auto 22pistol. Based on this analysis, I’ll get me some of that Blazer for initial trials. Thanks again to “Gel Sam” for providing the demo’s and info we all need 👍✌️
Beautiful range
Love my PK380
I will have to see if i can get some CCI Blazer .22 LR, I like Flat nose Winchester metal jacket for my .380!
Thanks for another great test.
Blazer makes a fine ammo at a very reasonable price.
I agree blazer is a minimag less copper wash, very good round I own 5500
I love the 38s and 32s (not to mention the 44s) but my guess is that being able to put 2 or 3 40 grain Blazers into the upper torso in the time it takes to come back down out of recoil with the bigger rounds might even the score a little bit.
GS. Good video and interesting comparison. Thanks for sharing. Before the issues of the last two years Blazer .22's was one of the main .22's at the gun stores near me. I think I still have a brick or two of them left over. Take care.
Thank you, take care.
Interesting statistical data you shared at the end. Could you share where that data came from? Pretty sure it wasn't the study published by Greg Ellifritz (don't remember his data including stopping the downward strike of a knife attacker). His study was based on actual analysis of reported defensive handgun use (real world). Other studies I've seen were based on supposition using power factors. I do appreciate the work you do. It's very informative.
I have never seen any Greg Ellifritz studies that were specific to the brand of ammo or bullet style other than caliber by caliber vaguely. I prefer the older Sanow and Marshall and Goats at Strasbourg to get a better overall feel for particular loads because they are listed specifically with the barrel length/gun used, which was easy to know being duty guns. If you could show me where Greg Ellifritz lists specific ammunition manufacturers, guns used in these real shootings - than I will take a look.
@@GunSamHis research was based strictly on actual reported shooting encounters where caliber used was known. Specific loads, velocities, bullet weights or types, barrel lengths, etc., are rarely if ever available in police reporting. I was mostly interested in your source for 98% one shot stops preventing personal injury, under the scenario you described, for .357 magnums and 21% for .22 rimfire. Not saying it's wrong, just curious. In my experience, for that scenario, 98% would be a stretch, even 21% for .22 rimfire would.
Again, this is not criticism, just curiosity about the source of those statistics. I really appreciate what you are doing and look forward to your testing.
@@dennisbrummett3047 I can't name any source other than what I recall from memory of reading several articles in Combat Handguns Magazine years ago written by Mas Ayoob. He quoted 96.7% I think it was for .357 Mag. It may have even been as high as 97% later on. Since one shot stops were only ever the recorded result, we cannot completely rely on those stats since if another shot or multiple shots were fired and the target stopped, it was not recorded although the first shot may very well have been the fight ender. Personally I would love to see new collected data on shootings since 2015 or so. Maybe even just in the last three years.
Really love your ballistic tests. Would you say that the 380 is louder than the 22?
Yes, I have fired it before without ear protection.
ASP has a lot of videos (not the blah, blah and buy my merchandise) that show some criminals do not stop when a victim defends themselves. The criminals may shoot while running away or worse. I think 22lr is lethal but agree with G.S. it may not stop some violent incidents as quickly as desired. So even though a "psychological stop" with a 22lr is probable (in most incidents?), the times when the the psychological, with a 22lr, stop doesn't work I assume the pucker factor goes way up. However, the criminal John Hinckley Jr. caused two people to fall flat and President Reagan to be seriously injured, with only a cheap 22lr snubbie. That was not a defensive situation however. ASP is a great repository of videos that make me think "what would I do in this situation or how and when is the best time to get to safety. So I put up with the content I don't go there for. I'm not sure I made a argument for or against 22lr!
Appreciate all your videos. Do you think the TX 22 Compact with the 3 1/2" barrel would perform the same? Thank you.
Probably. About a half inch barrel when already that short, isn't going to make any measurable difference with a cartridge as low down in power as .22 LR
It would be interesting, to me, to see various FMJ's compared through that EZ. O'course I'm being selfish; I carry one of those.
I'm going to simplify this. I ran like 4 different FMJ's through this pistol, and ALL were 170-180 ft lbs, and every one did basically exactly like this round. All of them averaged like 23" or so. Edit; listing ammo tested (not in one video) PMC Bronze 90 gr, American Eagle 95 gr, Blazer 95 gr, Aguila 95 gr.
Hey Sam, can I ask your advice? I wanted your opinion if you think it is worth getting a 357 rifle. I understand that it creates more power and more accuracy. But from my research, it doesn't say you can take bigger game and the effective range is similar to a revolver 50 to 100 yards. Am I missing something? Or do you agree.
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For 380 I only carry 105 Gold Dot. I'll have to see if You've tested that.
I have only known them in a 90 gr Gold Dot. I never heard of a 105 gr Gold Dot
@@GunSam That's because my faulty memory made it up. I was referring to the 102 gr Golden Saber.
@@curtshelp6170 I did the Ultimate Defense - basically the same thing. ruclips.net/video/B1d4_mAoDd4/видео.html
Why not 32 acp ? I kinda get skipping the 25 acp but jumping straight up to a 9mm short…
If you can place a 22 in the left eye socket of an assalent every time at a distance of seven paces, then a 22 is all you should ever need. If you cant garrantee that type of accuracy than you need to start carrying the largest most powerful pistol you can handle, and this is important, and AFFORD to practice with to maintain proficiency! Nuff said!...
Maybe, but when some witness lies and says "he was saying i'm shooting to kill as he point blank eye shot him"....how are you going to tell a jury you were in fear and shot only to stop a threat? Makes more sense to shoot like a normal person lol
I got a , "Why didn't I think about that questions." Why don't you put a second MDF between the two gel blocks to simulate ribs at the back?
Mostly, because after going through 19" of gel along with 1/4" MDF, at the end of that block 19" in - there's not much steam on those bullets. What that means is that bullets that would have penetrated to 19", 20", 21", 22", 23" and so on, would ALL show that they all went to 19" because at that point the MDF will just stop them all. I'd rather have more specific differences shown in gel than that. Not to mention, most ammo tests I do with hollow points never reach 19". The only time I could ever see it mattering, is if I was testing 240 gr .44 Mag and similar.
i'll also add, that the first MDF piece is not so much a simulation of a human rib barrier, as much as it is a variable to change the bullet structure the way it does in a real mammal, ie deformation etc - sort of a glorified denim barrier. At the end of the block, the bullet is already as deformed as it is going to ever be.
Yeah, if your going to use a 380 for self defense you need to be using ARX or Underwood extreme defender. Your past tests show that.
I feel like basic Gold Dot or Hydrashok is better. The stats on them are really old and show them to be effective no matter if expansion happens or not.
I'm currently building my first .380 and wanted to know if you had barrel length preference based on overall performance?
I really haven't seen much difference in velocity between my 2.75" LCP and 3.68" Shield EZ. Only when the ammo is a lot hotter like, labeled +P or something, does the extra length of the Shield EZ make a difference. Much of the better performance overall for accuracy - which the Shield EZ is better at, is probably due to the pistol being bigger and easier to shoot.
@@GunSamThank you for answering back! How do you feel about a compensated 4" barrel for the .380?
I agree blazer is a minimag less copper wash, very good round I own 5500