Lovely and well-balanced explanation! We are a home educating family, and we follow the Charlotte Mason method of education, which works so well for our family! We follow a curriculum, and we have a structured schedule because that's what works for our family. I am a planner, and we all thrive on routine. That doesn't mean that our schedule is rigid in any way, though, but we definitely need the structure. As for it being a privilege it most definitely is, but it doesn't come without sacrifices. We downsized our home, lots of home cooked meals and less eating out, buying lots of our resources SH and basically just thinking twice before we buy something. 0 impulse buys😂 but it's so worth it!
I really appreciated tge balanced way you looked at this. I'd like to offer my experience as a mum to four, now grown up kids. All four of mine were in and out of conventional school, for various reasons and for varying lengths of time. Throughout raising them my approach was always child led, except with health and welfare stuff like bedtimes, tooth brushing, healthy eating etc.. The times they came out of school were generally as a result of sheer disenfranchisement or because of bullying. My youngest had to drop out of school, mid A levels after becoming very unwell from glandular fever. All four did attend for at least some of primary school. My approach to homeschooling was child led and I never out pressure on them to achieve academically unless they wanted to. My younger daughter left school at ten years old after coming home utterly disillusioned after she saw teachers routinely scapegoating children for things they didn't do and then not apologizing for their error. She chose to go to Summerhill School for seven years, which is a school founded by A S Neil in the 1920s. The school is run on child led, unschooling principles. Lessons are not compulsory and school rules are decided by whole school meetings with kids and adults having equal voting rights. There were things I wasn't always happy about in relation to tge school, especially their pastoral care of younger children but my daughter loved it. She left there to do a media and film making Btech, then a masters degree in media and development, followed by a PhD in education, sociology and media. Despite being fairly unwell and in an electric wheelchair she has just completed a microbiology degree and has just begun a four year biomedical research PhD. All her choice, all things she is fired up about. Her sister was in and out of school, mainly because of bullying. She left school at 13 and did five GCSEs from home. One by correspondence course (Biology), one in an evening class (art) and three with tutor help (Maths, English and French). We joined our local Education Otherwise group and she made good friends with other homeschooled teenagers and also joined the local Scout group. She also did a lot of ballet and flamenco classes and was auditioning for contemporary dance school when she injured her back. After GCSEs she chose to go to our local high school to do A levels. After that she did various jobs in hospitality and as a manager of a clothing store before teaching herself dressmaking and pattern cutting, which led to becoming the wardrobe mistress at a regional theatre. Then she met her farmer husband, and together they set up an award winning cheese, yoghurt and butter company. She now runs all the design and media aspects of their company, whilst raising their two kids. My younger son was in and out of school from a very young age, due to bullying and poor health. He made really good friends with local home ed kids. It was so interesting seeing different families approaches, some who recreated classrooms and lessons at home, some like us who followed and supported each child's individual interests and some, who yes, I viewed as somewhat neglectful... But then I also met some pretty neglectful parents of kids who were in full time schooling! When my kids were younger and out of school we seemed to do endless outdoor play, building fires, cooking outside, building dens, waterslides, zip lines etc, did a lot of nature and seasonal crafts and cooking. They learnt basketry, sewing, pottery, music, singing, swimming, read endless books from the library as well as listened to endless audiobooks from the library and watched endless wildlife programs. Maths and science came up if they realised they needed to understand something in order to carry out a project they'd dreamed up. As a mum with a fairly unsupportive husband who didn't want to be involved in housework, transport or childcare I personally found home education stretched me to my limits and I was grateful fir tge times they were in school because my physical and emotional needs dropped to the bottom of the pile during home schooling years. I am proud of what I gave my kids during homeschool times but it was really tough and often very stressful managing at times with so little money to meet all our needs. My eldest spent his time between myself and his dad (he had a different dad to my other kids). He actually loved state school up until high school and excelled and thrived there. High school was a whole different ball game. The school was repressive and petty towards all the teenage boys in tge school and he rapidly became disillusioned after speaking out about this and stopped even trying to go to school and became very rebellious and angry and moody, even at home and wouldn't get out of bed and lashed out at the whole family constantly. In the end he went to live with his dad and tried another school after refusing home ed help. He stayed rebellious but taught himself sound engineering and DJing which he did for years. Later he taught himself specialist plastering and became a master plasterer until he decided to stop in irder to protect his lungs. He now works for a leading wholefoods cooperative. Over the years he's redesigned their whole packing system, rebuilt their entire website and now manages all the massive rebuilding and eco retrofitting program for all their warehouses. Next up is designing and installing a full phototaic systen, including power walls and charging for a fleet of electric lorries. He's also a devoted, hands on dad to his ten year old son. By the time my youngest son came out of school again at 13yrs old and then 17 years old, I was running a business and later struggling with health stuff. At 13 he went to a tutor (his choice), for Maths, English and French once a week. The rest of the time he pursued his own interests in gaming, video making, carpentry, cooking and engineering. Once a week he learnt with a friend how to build and program automata. He spent a lot of time playing with homeschool friends. He chose to go back to school, but a different local state school because I had developed severe ME cfs and he had to go abd live with dad until I was well enough for him to come back and live with me. He cane back to live with me when he was 14. Then he got sick at 17 with glandular fever and had to drop out of school. Now this out of school time the priority was to help him rebuild both his physical and mental health as this illness hit him very hard on every level. Eventually he limped through a computer studies Btech at a local college, enough to get accepted onto a four year science degree at uni. From there he completed a four year Biotechnology PhD at Manchester and is now in his second year as a postdoc research scientist at the Max Planck institute in Germany! All his choice, all following his own interests at any time. Never in my dreams would I have thought any of my children would have ended up pursuing the paths they have. I've observed so many home ed families over the years, ranging fron radical unschoolers to those who set up classrooms and full school curricular and timetable at home. What I've observed is that you cannot look at a homeschooled child of ten or thirteen and say how they are going to turn out as adults. What I've seen with almost every child I've seen either go through parent assisted unschooling or child led learning, as well as those children i saw go through child led, unschooling at Summerhill, is that almost without exception they have gone on to create very interesting lives and work for themselves, pursuing the things that most fired them up at any given time. They have never seened phased by learning abd developing whatever skills they've needed at any time. They have gone on to become lawyers, company CEOs, scientists, professional musicians, organic growers, have set up and run sucessful health products companies, been professional artists, quantum physicists, charity workers, product designers etc... What matters the most I feel is the fact that they are all genuinely self led and self trusting in their ability to learn whatever skills they need to pursue their dreams and goals.... But also what I've seen is their very high emotional intelligence levels and their compassion, respect and understanding of others and their lack of false persona and 'front'.
To be honest, I'm all for it in the right environment with access to the right resources and role models. Just don't let them near the internet, or, at best, they'll spend their entire childhood watching gaming and toy unboxing videos😅😅. I run a small international child-led preschool in Japan and while we use EYFS as a framework and follow ITMP, we are not shackled to any curriculum and the children surprise me year on year by how much they do take the lead given the right environment. Literacy and maths still need a nudge, but every year we get closer to even those being fully child-led by integrating them into as much as we can in the daily life of the setting and practising good modelling. We have a maximum capacity of 22 children and max ratio of 6:1. Our school is like a school mixed with a fairground/workshop/art studio/library and we have a Forest School twice per week. We only look after children up to 6yrs but I suspect we could go up to around 12 and still have great outcomes.
Just a comment in general regarding homeschooling. I do not believe the use of the word privilege should not be applied when it comes to homeschooling. It is about deciding what you are willing to sacrifice to give your kids this type of education. Privilege has nothing to do with it. Hard work, dedication and sacrifice is the words I would attribute. Using the word "privilege" implies that you did not have to work for what you have, and it is victim mentality. But your take on unschooling for is fairly accurate. Thank you for the explanation.
So close and yet so much incorrect language and bias in there. Firstly home schooling is when a child is still being educated by the school or LA but not able to do that in a school for whatever reason. Home education is when a child's education is being provided by their parent/carer. Secondly as a part of a two parent two child family where we both work (one full time, one 20 hours per week) while home educating I can confirm that while it absolutely isn't possible for everyone there's lots of people working and home educating. That includes both parents working full time or single parents working full or part time so don't make assumptions. You just missed the mark on a lot of things too numerous to list individually but I would also like to point out that a lot of children naturally learn to do things like reading later and there are also many children leaving school after year 11 who are unable to read, it's almost like it's something that some people have difficulty with isn't it. Oh and you've stated that unschoolers don't use curriculums which is also inaccurate. If a child has a desire to gain a qualification or wishes to take part in something that means following a curriculum then that would be used but it would be the choice of the individual rather than being imposed. We are not unschoolers but we know many and some aspects of our pedagogy do align. If you've met one home educator you've met one home educator. We are by definition individuals who don't fit into boxes because we are trying to tailor our child's learning to their individual needs and each child has different needs, sometimes that even changes day to day or minute to minute.
@@Anormani I know many people who gained many levels of qualifications being unschooled. Your ignorance of them does not negate their existence fortunately. It’s a shame videos like this add to the misinformation about it.
Given your rather self confident statement about the meaning of 'home schooling' vs 'home education', I'm not sure how much credibility the rest of your comment has. Shows you are familiar with some rather local branding or marketing material, but not the wider terminology. Which tends to be a recurring problem with the movement.. insular and poor at self correcting.. but really confident about whatever facts they have heard from their friends.
@@neenekoit's actually the legal definitions not local branding. I'm happy to be corrected if that's inaccurate but language is important and it's better to be clear and use the correct labels, especially when they have such different meanings. It's different in America but that's the correct terms form the UK.
hi, i have a trouble with this can you help. explain how to teach this words correcly for kids so they can easily read and write correctly : interesting. in/ter/est/ing. there are 4 syllables if we teach in phonics way but in fact it just has only three. /ˈɪntrəstɪŋ/ ? thank you
You're describing a 'schwa' sound, and schwas can also be explicitly taught. Starting at the very beginning and focusing on a structured synthetic phonics scope and sequence of sounds will teach all children to read and spell with accuracy.
Lovely and well-balanced explanation! We are a home educating family, and we follow the Charlotte Mason method of education, which works so well for our family! We follow a curriculum, and we have a structured schedule because that's what works for our family. I am a planner, and we all thrive on routine. That doesn't mean that our schedule is rigid in any way, though, but we definitely need the structure. As for it being a privilege it most definitely is, but it doesn't come without sacrifices. We downsized our home, lots of home cooked meals and less eating out, buying lots of our resources SH and basically just thinking twice before we buy something. 0 impulse buys😂 but it's so worth it!
I really appreciated tge balanced way you looked at this. I'd like to offer my experience as a mum to four, now grown up kids.
All four of mine were in and out of conventional school, for various reasons and for varying lengths of time. Throughout raising them my approach was always child led, except with health and welfare stuff like bedtimes, tooth brushing, healthy eating etc..
The times they came out of school were generally as a result of sheer disenfranchisement or because of bullying. My youngest had to drop out of school, mid A levels after becoming very unwell from glandular fever.
All four did attend for at least some of primary school. My approach to homeschooling was child led and I never out pressure on them to achieve academically unless they wanted to.
My younger daughter left school at ten years old after coming home utterly disillusioned after she saw teachers routinely scapegoating children for things they didn't do and then not apologizing for their error. She chose to go to Summerhill School for seven years, which is a school founded by A S Neil in the 1920s. The school is run on child led, unschooling principles. Lessons are not compulsory and school rules are decided by whole school meetings with kids and adults having equal voting rights.
There were things I wasn't always happy about in relation to tge school, especially their pastoral care of younger children but my daughter loved it. She left there to do a media and film making Btech, then a masters degree in media and development, followed by a PhD in education, sociology and media. Despite being fairly unwell and in an electric wheelchair she has just completed a microbiology degree and has just begun a four year biomedical research PhD. All her choice, all things she is fired up about.
Her sister was in and out of school, mainly because of bullying. She left school at 13 and did five GCSEs from home. One by correspondence course (Biology), one in an evening class (art) and three with tutor help (Maths, English and French). We joined our local Education Otherwise group and she made good friends with other homeschooled teenagers and also joined the local Scout group. She also did a lot of ballet and flamenco classes and was auditioning for contemporary dance school when she injured her back. After GCSEs she chose to go to our local high school to do A levels. After that she did various jobs in hospitality and as a manager of a clothing store before teaching herself dressmaking and pattern cutting, which led to becoming the wardrobe mistress at a regional theatre. Then she met her farmer husband, and together they set up an award winning cheese, yoghurt and butter company. She now runs all the design and media aspects of their company, whilst raising their two kids.
My younger son was in and out of school from a very young age, due to bullying and poor health. He made really good friends with local home ed kids. It was so interesting seeing different families approaches, some who recreated classrooms and lessons at home, some like us who followed and supported each child's individual interests and some, who yes, I viewed as somewhat neglectful... But then I also met some pretty neglectful parents of kids who were in full time schooling!
When my kids were younger and out of school we seemed to do endless outdoor play, building fires, cooking outside, building dens, waterslides, zip lines etc, did a lot of nature and seasonal crafts and cooking. They learnt basketry, sewing, pottery, music, singing, swimming, read endless books from the library as well as listened to endless audiobooks from the library and watched endless wildlife programs. Maths and science came up if they realised they needed to understand something in order to carry out a project they'd dreamed up.
As a mum with a fairly unsupportive husband who didn't want to be involved in housework, transport or childcare I personally found home education stretched me to my limits and I was grateful fir tge times they were in school because my physical and emotional needs dropped to the bottom of the pile during home schooling years. I am proud of what I gave my kids during homeschool times but it was really tough and often very stressful managing at times with so little money to meet all our needs.
My eldest spent his time between myself and his dad (he had a different dad to my other kids). He actually loved state school up until high school and excelled and thrived there. High school was a whole different ball game. The school was repressive and petty towards all the teenage boys in tge school and he rapidly became disillusioned after speaking out about this and stopped even trying to go to school and became very rebellious and angry and moody, even at home and wouldn't get out of bed and lashed out at the whole family constantly. In the end he went to live with his dad and tried another school after refusing home ed help. He stayed rebellious but taught himself sound engineering and DJing which he did for years. Later he taught himself specialist plastering and became a master plasterer until he decided to stop in irder to protect his lungs. He now works for a leading wholefoods cooperative. Over the years he's redesigned their whole packing system, rebuilt their entire website and now manages all the massive rebuilding and eco retrofitting program for all their warehouses. Next up is designing and installing a full phototaic systen, including power walls and charging for a fleet of electric lorries. He's also a devoted, hands on dad to his ten year old son.
By the time my youngest son came out of school again at 13yrs old and then 17 years old, I was running a business and later struggling with health stuff. At 13 he went to a tutor (his choice), for Maths, English and French once a week. The rest of the time he pursued his own interests in gaming, video making, carpentry, cooking and engineering. Once a week he learnt with a friend how to build and program automata. He spent a lot of time playing with homeschool friends. He chose to go back to school, but a different local state school because I had developed severe ME cfs and he had to go abd live with dad until I was well enough for him to come back and live with me.
He cane back to live with me when he was 14. Then he got sick at 17 with glandular fever and had to drop out of school.
Now this out of school time the priority was to help him rebuild both his physical and mental health as this illness hit him very hard on every level. Eventually he limped through a computer studies Btech at a local college, enough to get accepted onto a four year science degree at uni. From there he completed a four year Biotechnology PhD at Manchester and is now in his second year as a postdoc research scientist at the Max Planck institute in Germany! All his choice, all following his own interests at any time.
Never in my dreams would I have thought any of my children would have ended up pursuing the paths they have.
I've observed so many home ed families over the years, ranging fron radical unschoolers to those who set up classrooms and full school curricular and timetable at home. What I've observed is that you cannot look at a homeschooled child of ten or thirteen and say how they are going to turn out as adults.
What I've seen with almost every child I've seen either go through parent assisted unschooling or child led learning, as well as those children i saw go through child led, unschooling at Summerhill, is that almost without exception they have gone on to create very interesting lives and work for themselves, pursuing the things that most fired them up at any given time. They have never seened phased by learning abd developing whatever skills they've needed at any time.
They have gone on to become lawyers, company CEOs, scientists, professional musicians, organic growers, have set up and run sucessful health products companies, been professional artists, quantum physicists, charity workers, product designers etc...
What matters the most I feel is the fact that they are all genuinely self led and self trusting in their ability to learn whatever skills they need to pursue their dreams and goals.... But also what I've seen is their very high emotional intelligence levels and their compassion, respect and understanding of others and their lack of false persona and 'front'.
To be honest, I'm all for it in the right environment with access to the right resources and role models. Just don't let them near the internet, or, at best, they'll spend their entire childhood watching gaming and toy unboxing videos😅😅.
I run a small international child-led preschool in Japan and while we use EYFS as a framework and follow ITMP, we are not shackled to any curriculum and the children surprise me year on year by how much they do take the lead given the right environment.
Literacy and maths still need a nudge, but every year we get closer to even those being fully child-led by integrating them into as much as we can in the daily life of the setting and practising good modelling.
We have a maximum capacity of 22 children and max ratio of 6:1. Our school is like a school mixed with a fairground/workshop/art studio/library and we have a Forest School twice per week.
We only look after children up to 6yrs but I suspect we could go up to around 12 and still have great outcomes.
Just a comment in general regarding homeschooling.
I do not believe the use of the word privilege should not be applied when it comes to homeschooling.
It is about deciding what you are willing to sacrifice to give your kids this type of education.
Privilege has nothing to do with it. Hard work, dedication and sacrifice is the words I would attribute.
Using the word "privilege" implies that you did not have to work for what you have, and it is victim mentality.
But your take on unschooling for is fairly accurate. Thank you for the explanation.
Excellent video
So close and yet so much incorrect language and bias in there. Firstly home schooling is when a child is still being educated by the school or LA but not able to do that in a school for whatever reason. Home education is when a child's education is being provided by their parent/carer. Secondly as a part of a two parent two child family where we both work (one full time, one 20 hours per week) while home educating I can confirm that while it absolutely isn't possible for everyone there's lots of people working and home educating. That includes both parents working full time or single parents working full or part time so don't make assumptions.
You just missed the mark on a lot of things too numerous to list individually but I would also like to point out that a lot of children naturally learn to do things like reading later and there are also many children leaving school after year 11 who are unable to read, it's almost like it's something that some people have difficulty with isn't it.
Oh and you've stated that unschoolers don't use curriculums which is also inaccurate. If a child has a desire to gain a qualification or wishes to take part in something that means following a curriculum then that would be used but it would be the choice of the individual rather than being imposed.
We are not unschoolers but we know many and some aspects of our pedagogy do align.
If you've met one home educator you've met one home educator. We are by definition individuals who don't fit into boxes because we are trying to tailor our child's learning to their individual needs and each child has different needs, sometimes that even changes day to day or minute to minute.
Too bad they won’t be able to gain that qualification since they were stuck at home being “unschooled” 😂
@@Anormani I know many people who gained many levels of qualifications being unschooled. Your ignorance of them does not negate their existence fortunately. It’s a shame videos like this add to the misinformation about it.
@@2devonpixies_home_ed159 "many levels of qualifications" 😂😂😂
Given your rather self confident statement about the meaning of 'home schooling' vs 'home education', I'm not sure how much credibility the rest of your comment has. Shows you are familiar with some rather local branding or marketing material, but not the wider terminology. Which tends to be a recurring problem with the movement.. insular and poor at self correcting.. but really confident about whatever facts they have heard from their friends.
@@neenekoit's actually the legal definitions not local branding. I'm happy to be corrected if that's inaccurate but language is important and it's better to be clear and use the correct labels, especially when they have such different meanings. It's different in America but that's the correct terms form the UK.
hi, i have a trouble with this can you help. explain how to teach this words correcly for kids so they can easily read and write correctly : interesting. in/ter/est/ing. there are 4 syllables if we teach in phonics way but in fact it just has only three. /ˈɪntrəstɪŋ/ ? thank you
You're describing a 'schwa' sound, and schwas can also be explicitly taught. Starting at the very beginning and focusing on a structured synthetic phonics scope and sequence of sounds will teach all children to read and spell with accuracy.