7.3 Powerstroke MASSIVE oil consumption repair
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- The truck started using massive amounts of oil, up to 3 gallon in 120 miles. In this video we replace the o-rings on the injectors and replace the turbo.
#SakimasRidgeHomestead
I have the exact same thing going on with my 99 plow truck , I have 3-7.3 trucks and this is the first time this has happened to me wow that's a lot of oil disappering Thanks for the video.
I had the same problem on my ‘95. I paid the ford dealership $90 to diagnose the problem. They suspected injector rings and quoted me. $1700 to replace the rings. I did research and found your video. I paid $80 for oem rings and my sons and I, with no experience, went to work. In the process, we found one burned pin on one plug into the driver’s side valve cover gasket and one burned pin on the under cover plug on the passenger side. We replaced both gaskets and a pigtail. While we we in there and had to pull glow plugs to “bump the motor”, I decided to replace all 8 glow plugs. ($85 oem). In the end, I spent about $200 and 8 hours to save $1500 and learn a lot. We have driven the truck 418 miles since the repair and haven’t lost an ounce of oil!. Incidentally, in doing mine, I found that there was not a single pink o-ring on any injector. It was a set of 2 rings to fill that space and the smaller of them was failed in all 8 injectors. Your video walked us through the whole process and saved me $$$$$$$. Thank you very much for your help
Glad it helped! And thanks for watching.
After a week of scratching my head testing and just everything....
this video put me on the right path.
Checked my oil level
Topped it off and she fired up
My brand new orings failed.
Thank you!
Nice to see walking the o-rings as you should
I have learned with the 7.3 USE OEM Everything.
You ain't shittin don't ever go cheap on a 7.3 dorman sucks
Thank you for explaining everything that led up to your diagnosis.
Buddy I liked your video,. My 7.3 power stroke. Has the same systems as yours did,. You saying the oil rings on the injections was causing it to use all that oil and loose power,. Because that's exactly what mine is doing,. All of a sudden it started using a lot of oil,. I've already put a new turbo an glow plugs,. an wiring harness,. I'm thinking you have solved my problem,.
Thanks again,. and
GodBless,
The very same exact thing happen to my T444e. Pulled out injectors and noticed about 4 really bad O-Rings.
• Took me a while to figure it out.
By far the best explanation and visual aid yet. I'm just a novice however, would it be a good idea to put anti seize on the glow plugs for future extraction? I hope not to step on any toes.
I'll save this one for when I get my 7.3l👍
I hope you never have to use it!
@@SakimasRidgeHomestead me too. Lol
Best video ever thank goodness my friend keep the good work be safe out there
I think this is happening to my truck. Mine smokes a little greyish smoke but not really any blue smoke and not an excessive amount like you think there would be with a loss of 4 gallons. The minimal amount of smoke is really deceptive when you're losing 4 gallons over a 200 mile period.
It's best to push the o rings on to the injectors with a tube of some sort. Stretching them, even with the thin pick, makes installing injectors more prone to cutting nicking the o-ring when installing. Pushing them evenly with a tube (PVC pipe, rolled up flexible plastic, etc) will allow them to stretch only as much as needed until slipping into their groove. Do not stretch the new o-ring it may work just fine if you do but prematurely you may start loosing oil into the fuel/burning oil and find that your middle o-ring (pink) was nicked during install and has finally met its demise 40k miles later.
Great video! This is going to be a good project. Thank you
Just so you all know if you do take your injectors out and the oil drains in, throw a dirty towel over your engine with all the injectors and glow plugs out and crank it 5 to 15 seconds you'll have the oil out.
just put valve covers back on with 1 or 2 bolts. no mess.
Or just use a brake fluid vacuum and check with a scope camera to make sure it’s empty 🥱
That's how I do it. With glow plugs out..with a broken injector tip and a flooded engine, makes a nice fountain of diesel against the hood 😆 without towel
The exact same thing happened to me. Massive oil lose through exhaust. So changed the turbo. Didn’t help so I’m about to change the o rings on the injectors. Hopefully that is my problem too
Nice video helped me alot have a blessed one sir thanks for your help
The long crank after removing injectors, it air in the high pressure engine oil. it should level out after 5-10 miles.
Oh, one other question, is it okay to start and test the engine with out the internet cooler pipes on? I’d rather not put them on to test, and then remove to put the covers back on.
Very good tip to prevent engine damage due to hydraulic ing.
What a fantastic video. Nice job.
Excellent and extremely informative video!!
Thank you for posting!!!
I only have one real question.
I was just wondering if you knew how many miles were on the Truck when the previous owner changed injectors?
I found this video incredibly helpful 🚀🚀🚀🚀
I think I have exact issue
Trucks been sitting 5 years because nobody diagnosed it correctly and I spent so much on oil pan and misdiagnose
And I
No mechanic and just read forums and thought it was o rings
Guess it’s time to find out
Who the hell is hacking their lungs out in the background?
It’s a piss cock.
Peacock
Great video my friend and heve7.3
I didn't know the 7.3 has a high pressure oil sensor. My Edge computer has no record of it and I was thinking about adding my own sensor.
I had my injectors replaced as maintenance. Now my truck drinks oil. Mechanic went back in and found a bad injector. Still drinks oil. Should I replace turbo or would you say the injectors are the problem?? Great video. Thanks
thank you so much for this video i purchased a 1999 and had same issues just replaced turbo still burning oil bad like you and my first start in the morning it cranks and cranks for about 60 seconds or longer and with this video you've made me more confident thats its my o rings and or injectors ..... by the way did it solve your oil issue
Yes, the massive oil loss issue is gone. I still use some oil, but from what I've heard, that is normal for diesels. Thanks for watching, and good luck with your repairs.
Excessive oil consumption combined with long cranking time to start is almost certainly injector o-ring related.
You will always have oil in the intercooler, until you add a filter a catch can or delete the ccv.
Love your videos friend. When you removed the brass plugs to let the oil drain prior to removing the injectors, how long did you let the oil drain? Did you notice any issues? The oil draining into the cylinder has me worried I will hydro lock my motor. Should letting all the oil drain prior to removing injectors make sure that doesn't happen? Thanks again.
I still had oil in a couple cylinders. I left the glow plugs out and bumped the engine over a few times to clear it out.
@@SakimasRidgeHomestead did you have the valve covers on when you bumped it over?
I did not, and it was a little messy.
I put an all new engine harness, new valve cover gaskets woth the proper connectors.
Thanks for the video!! I have same oil problem!!! Will you be doin an update on results?
I did have continuing turbo issues do to poor rebuild quality which I will post a video about at some point which will cover the update. But at this point I have close to 8000 miles on the truck and the oil hasn't gone down at all. Pretty sure the o-rings were the problem.
Great video! Thanks for the helpful advice!
@@SakimasRidgeHomestead its normal on the fords to get some oil in the Turbo pipes becasuse of the CCV.. esp if you over-fill the oil at all.. the internationals ran draft tubes and didnt have the issue.. you just blew oil on the ground..
Honest question - why not replace your injector cups while you are in there? Cups are cheap but having to tear back into the vlv cover to replace them later is expensive (in terms of down time). Thank you for making this video. The previous owner of my 7.3 said he too experienced MASSIVE oil consumption but could never find out its final destination as there were no external leaks. He re-ringed his injectors, probably with offshore parts like most people are apt to do. Thus, I plan on replacing my injectors outright, doing a fuel bowl delete, installing fuel rail return fittings in the head (to make priming the new injectors easier) as well as replacing the stock 80mm turbo with an 88mm turbo. I will be doing other things too, but I just wanted to ask the question regarding the cups.
My 7.3 does the exact same thing. We just filled the oil today 3 gallons after 100 miles truck stalled limped home & watched your video. I went & chk my its bone dry. It doesn't leak oil I welded a new dipstick on the pan
Did that O-ring repair fix the massive oil consumption & poor fuel economy? I literally lost ¼ tank of fuel while power loss & limping home less than 1 mile lost ¼ tank of fuel
Thought i would add i have 424k miles on my 7.2. Changed my HPOP & injectors @ 415k full exhaust delete, cold air box, 6 gun tuner
Uaed to get 400 to a full tank now lucky if i get 200 miles.
How doni diagnose which side it is or should i just re ring them all? Also dont buy Amazon glow plugs they work 1x then they're done. Made that mistake already.
Orings fixed the oil consumption issue. Don’t think I had a poor fuel economy issue with this. If anything it should have been better since it was forcing the oil into the fuel tank through the filter. Check your fuel filter, if it’s black, oil is getting past the orings. Good luck!
in defense of dorman. the gasket connectors are designed to fix an oem problem. instead of putting a quarter in the connector to lock it in tighter.
But their own connectors don’t fit in their own gaskets………..
Very good video nice 👍🏽 I’ll do that to my injector. Question where can get one a those little torque
I just bought a new truck and I hop I don’t mess my engine up all in a 300 mile drive I lost 4 gallons
Did that fix your oil consumption problem when you are done
I pry injectors off with a lady foot off the head bolt
I’m assuming you mean fuel filter and not “oil filter” when you reference it being black due to the o-rings failing.
DID YOU DRAIN THE TANK OR JUST RAN THE OIL OUT BY DRIVING THE TRUCK
Just drove the truck. It runs fine on the oil, just a little blue smoke.
Did you crank it with key or starter?
Mine is pumping diesel.fuel out the exhaust and into the engine oil. ALOT OF FUEL. I've changed orings and rebuilt 2 injectors. Any ideas?
Nice video. Possibly dumb question: Why didn’t the motor turn over when u cranked it to clear out the cylinders?
No compression, it’s all leaking out through the glow plug holes along with the oil/fuel that was in cylinder .
All the colored orings are black under the red and pink, factory or not.
My truck is going through oil like crazy. May I ask was your truck smoking? My truck isn't smoking. If it's getting into the fuel system wouldn't the truck smoke like crazy?
I would notice a little bit of smoke once i a while, but not like you'd think. Most of the oil pushes back the fuel line through the filter and into the tank. That's what causes the fuel filter to be black. Once it mixes with the fuel, it doesn't smoke much when it burns.
I cannot get my 73 started turns over but no start can I get an idea of what to do please
First check or change camshaft sensor (cheap and easy )
2nd check ipr valve
3rd check icp (you can actually disconnect the icp and it will default the computer to 750 psi )
4rd make sure you high pressure pump it’s working
Just Subscribed Great Video !
Thank you, and thanks for watching.
Question? I have the same problem right now and i am about to tackle it tomorrow by myself. With no experience at all. Only watching your video will help me. But since there is oil in the fuel bowl, I know there will be oil in the tank. How in the blue hell do I get the oil out? will it burn off or do I have to drop the tank or do a fuel system clean? And how do you do a fuel system clean?
Just drive it. The oil will burn out after a couple tank fulls.
I'm going threw same issues. Did the o ring deal fix it and the starts get better?
Did you continue to have oil in your intercooler pipes after changing the o rings?
A little oil in the tubes is normal. The excessive oil I had was coming from the turbo. Bad o-rings will push the oil into the fuel system and cause the oil filter to be black. I was “lucky” enough to have both issues. Thanks for watching.
Any reason you took the belt off?
Did you torque down both bolts on the injector or just the one?
Is it normal for there to be oil in the inter cooler return pipe? Not much in mine, but a bit drained out once it sat after taking it off. If it is normal where does it come from and how to check that it is not excessive, or that a seal is going?
Other than hard start in cold weather mine is fine, but a bit of oil in the engine valley that keeps leaking down the back of the engine. I am in the process of replacing glow plugs, and after watching your video again, I am going to do the o rings since I have them. Replacing valve cover gaskets and wiring as well. I am hoping that will solve the hard, no start in cold weather when not plugged in. Anything below 40F or 8C and it is problematic. Anything else on top of the engine that I should check for oil leaks? I know HPOP is up there. Could be the IP sensor as well I imagine. Replaced turbo a few years ago, when seals and bushing went.
Great video! Very informative! Like the torque specs being included. Early 2000 F250 7.3L
Did you every check the fuel tank filters, or remove and replace with in line filter?
Oilin the intercooler piping comes from crank case ventilation and or turbo seals failing
how would you diagnose if the turbo is bad? i knew that if the fuel filter is black its most likely O-ring issue
Would you say the o rings solved the problem or both orings and turbo
Hard to tell for sure, but I think most of the issue was caused by the o-rings.
Did your startup issue resolve? Air i
n the oil passageways? Don't forget to check the HPOP res. people!
Yes, the starting issue/ oil loss was resolved with the o-rings. I wouldn't necessarily say air in the oil passages. Once the engine oil gets too low, the oil pump will not keep the HPOP reservoir full and the HPOP cannot generate pressure to operate the injectors.
Changed my oil 1200 miles ago and today found out I was 3 gallons low.
Check it about a week ago it was full. Sound like o ring problems?
Is it safe to drive as long as i keep an eye on the level till I can get new o rings put on?
Oh yeah great video new sub
Keep a close eye on the oil level. Mine quit running at about three gallons low. I did an oil change and in less than 1500 miles it was down the three gallons. I was then adding about a gallon every 200 miles, which for me is two days.
@@SakimasRidgeHomestead Did you ever find out where the oil was going. You mentioned that the truck was running poorly at times. This could indicate faulty injector seals, and resulting HPOP faulty pressure. This would NOT create loss of oil. Oil loss is created by leaks, burning in combustion or oil cooler failures.
@@stevecarlisle3323
The oil will return to the fuel system or in the the coolant depending on which o ring fails and or cracked or damaged brass injector cups
So 10 ft lbs of torque? That seems really low.
Coolant has no oil in it. No coolant in oil either. O tend to thinking may have a hung Injector or a split tip
Where did you get the oring kit?
I think these were the ones I used. www.riffraffdiesel.com/alliant-injector-o-rings/
Question when you did your Turbo and your injectors and your injectors did that solve the problem for the massive oil consumption
After I changed the injector o-rings, the oil consumption issue was solved.
I did the o rings this weekend and my problem was also fixed thanks for your videos
My 7.3l is drinking oil like it drinks diesel so I am hoping it is the same problem.
It’s a good possibility, especially if your fuel filter is black. Good luck! And thanks for watching.
@@SakimasRidgeHomestead Yeah, my main problem is I need to use everyday this week/weekend into next week so I am gonna end up buying a shit ton of oil. I am hoping as long as I keep it topped off with oil it doesn't cause any damage.
I will let you know what happens.
@@whoopiiiiie Best of luck. Mine lost 3 gallon before I realized there was an issue. When the oil is that low, the HPOP cannot generate enough pressure and the truck will loose power and eventually stall. Somewhat of a safety net to never run completely out.
Hello guys , i have 2003 7.3l powerstroke , i have changed head gaskets o rings and everything ,after that the truck Excessive oil of 3 gallons with just a almost 100 miles with white gray smoke nun stop , please guys I don't know what i do with this problem can any one help , thanks
So was the oil leaking into the fuel return and going into your fuel tank?
The oil pressure is much higher than the fuel pressure. The oil pushes back into the fuel filter housing and then back into the tank. A nasty black fuel filter is an indicator that this is happening.
I have no oil pressure and long crank 1st thing in mor I g after that most the day it fires up but I'm but I g oil and I just replaced the turbo HELPPPPPP
I have a 95 Ford f350 7.3 powerstorke with a lot of blowbye any suggestions on how I can find out why if it's the injected o ring or motor is bad
While it's running. take off the oil cap. You will see some air/smoke coming out and that is normal, if it is blowing out of there like crazy, you have bad rings. Diesels will have some blow by.
@@markusgarvey thank you it has a miss in it also and has white smoke smells like fuel out of the exhaust
Like Mark said, take the oil cap off. Place it back on upside down, if it stays there, it's ok. Of it blows off, you have a bad blow by, possible cracked rings.
@@johnniewashington9207 Oil smoke is black, white is unburnt fuel so you probably have bad or no compression in 1 or more cylinders. People say that if you have injector seals leaking, you won't see any smoke, but it's gonna be gray unless it's a very-very small leak. It sounds like you need to do a compression check and cylinder leakdown test. IDK where you live, but California is making fleets sell diesels that are older than 2010, so you can get good engines cheap. Those engines will usually go over half a million miles easy if you service them regular and use good oil. Lots of Tow Trucks have them.
IM HAVING AN ISSUE WITH MY 2000 f350 OIL IS DRAINING INTO MY DEASEL TANK AND LEAKING OUT MY OIL IS GONE FROM THE MOTOR SO JUST REPLACE INJECTOR RINGS AND THAT WILL DO IT
ALL THE OIL SEEMS TO BE GOING INTO MY ACTUAL DEASEL TANK AND HAVE NO OIL IN LESS THAN 30 MINUTS IN MY MOTOR IF ITS ON IS THAT INJECTOR RING PROBLEMS OR COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE
It is a good possibility. I was loosing about a gallon every 100 miles. It could always be something more severe, but the o-rings is a good starting point. You should be able to see the bad o-ring when you take the injectors out.
Cracked injector can cause the issue as well.
Was there any smoke?
Very little. Small amount on startup was about it.
@@SakimasRidgeHomestead a customer of mine is going through a gal every two days so I guess I’ll have to look into this when I got the covers off
hey I have a 7.3 Blows smoke and some oil out of exauhst put new used Injectors,turbo and pedastol in it still does same thing its 2002 135,000 miles what could be the problem
Hey Carlos did you find out the problem with your truck because I got the same problem?thanks
@@alextowingandautoservices5325 did you figure out your issue?
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Y would u not just buy new injectors cause they go bad and worn out after 200k any way not knocking what ya did I just go safer route 100 mile round trip is so small trip
Waiting for you to get to the point is frustrating when we're here looking for answers to why our truck is not operating properly. Just sayin
That's why you have a scroll button , just saying