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Much thanks for the video man. Stuff like this I feel like is underappreciated and unthanked. I hope you're well. somewhat confused how you're still under 1k subs.
Thanks, really appreciate it and my pleasure! I do think it's easier to get a lot of followers if you're talking about the hot issues consistently, but I'm just trying to stay true what I enjoy and sharing that with fellow fans. It'll come with time
1985? That would have been a tough one to give to him, voters back in that day would have had a hard time looking past the W-L record, but he was great. 1984 I think he had a more deserving season
Not much to add here, but commenting in the spirit of helping the algorithm, here's one. The Jays were the first team to win a World Series with an African-American manager, Cito Gaston.
It's a shame Stieb isn't in the hall and if Halladay is on record saying he wanted to wear a Jays cap in the hall then his wishes should be granted. Jays fans will never see a period as great as from 1983 to their second world series in 1993 - Amazing teams, players, and one of the best if not the best announcer duos in Tom Cheek and Jerry Howarth in baseball. Even if the Jays win another World Series someday, there is no way I can see that team being on par with the ones they had in 1992 and 1993 - Those were among the greatest world championship teams ever assembled. It would nice to see a Jays team in baseball again that was a serious threat to win it all - I always thoroughly enjoyed how it was like watching an itch they couldn't scratch when the Jays won in the post season for clowns like Pat O'Brien and Bob Costas calling the games with their clearly anti Jays bias because I guess they loathe the idea of a MLB team winning that's also north of the border. Made for good rivalries and good times.
That team really was a juggernaut, incredibly well put together with both successful picks and trades. This current team had a really great young core they were hoping would turn out the same, but it certainly hasn't and most of their trades and signings have turned out to be duds. You're right, might be hard to live up to those early 90s teams
Fred Mcgriff played better with the Jays then with any other team. His OPS+ with the Jays is 153 compared with his time in Atlanta witch it was only 128. and he played his best season with the Jays in 1989 with a OPS+ of 165 and he lead the AL in home runs with 36
So true, eh? See how I threw that in there? It makes you wonder what his career would have been like had he stayed a Blue Jay for a while longer, of if he would have blocked Delgado from arriving. Did he have his best years with the Jays because he was young, or because he liked the team and park and didn't adjust as well to other locations and moving around so much? Who knows, but it's fun to speculate!
Although it is going to be an uphill climb, I think Delgado could eventually make it. Supposed “clean” masher during the “Steroid Era”. Would have hit another 50+ Home Runs if it weren’t for a freak base running injury that ended his career in 2009. He hit over 450 Home Runs and had nearly 1,500 RBI in only essentially 13 seasons. If it wasn’t for Mike Sweeney getting the mandatory MLB spot for my Royals during the early 2000’s he would have been an All-Star another 2-3 times. There is also an argument to be made that he should be a 1x MVP (2003) and very well could be a 2x MVP (2000 and 2003). I guess that is the price you pay for playing in a faraway outpost for an overachieving, contending team both years, whose playoff chances never really materialized. Interesting to see if he is on the VC ballot in 2026.
I agree that he should be considered more, but I'm not as optimistic of his chances. Especially with how many players from this Era are seemingly in front of him for the Vet committee votes. I really enjoyed watching him play though, and agree he was better than most people remember him to be
@@brutusonbaseball Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m not optimistic at all honestly, but I do have hope that the players know who were the “bad men” when they played, and Delgado was a bad dude. A slightly lesser Jim Thome without the longevity. I agree there are a few guys ahead of him in his era: Lofton, Edmonds, Kent, etc.; and not to mention the PED guys with better resumes.
@@brutusonbaseball Pat Gillick is from California and the #1 baseball mind of the past 50 years. The people running the team since Gillick left are intellectual light weights.
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The most remarkable record set by the Jays? They once hit 10 home runs in one game, on September 14, 1987.
Very interesting tidbit, thanks for adding it to the discussion!
Much thanks for the video man. Stuff like this I feel like is underappreciated and unthanked. I hope you're well. somewhat confused how you're still under 1k subs.
Thanks, really appreciate it and my pleasure! I do think it's easier to get a lot of followers if you're talking about the hot issues consistently, but I'm just trying to stay true what I enjoy and sharing that with fellow fans. It'll come with time
Dave Steib will always have the 1985 AL Cy Young in my heart
1985? That would have been a tough one to give to him, voters back in that day would have had a hard time looking past the W-L record, but he was great. 1984 I think he had a more deserving season
Stieb was a competitor no doubt. So often I know he would glare at hitters after he walked them. It seemed he took bases on balls quite seriously.
Absolutely, it's amazing how some guys separate themselves by his intense and intimidating they are
Not much to add here, but commenting in the spirit of helping the algorithm, here's one. The Jays were the first team to win a World Series with an African-American manager, Cito Gaston.
Thanks as always for the view and support! Great point that I missed, Gaston was a pretty important manager especially for the time in the early 90s!
It's a shame Stieb isn't in the hall and if Halladay is on record saying he wanted to wear a Jays cap in the hall then his wishes should be granted. Jays fans will never see a period as great as from 1983 to their second world series in 1993 - Amazing teams, players, and one of the best if not the best announcer duos in Tom Cheek and Jerry Howarth in baseball. Even if the Jays win another World Series someday, there is no way I can see that team being on par with the ones they had in 1992 and 1993 - Those were among the greatest world championship teams ever assembled. It would nice to see a Jays team in baseball again that was a serious threat to win it all - I always thoroughly enjoyed how it was like watching an itch they couldn't scratch when the Jays won in the post season for clowns like Pat O'Brien and Bob Costas calling the games with their clearly anti Jays bias because I guess they loathe the idea of a MLB team winning that's also north of the border. Made for good rivalries and good times.
That team really was a juggernaut, incredibly well put together with both successful picks and trades. This current team had a really great young core they were hoping would turn out the same, but it certainly hasn't and most of their trades and signings have turned out to be duds. You're right, might be hard to live up to those early 90s teams
Fred Mcgriff played better with the Jays then with any other team. His OPS+ with the Jays is 153 compared with his time in Atlanta witch it was only 128. and he played his best season with the Jays in 1989 with a OPS+ of 165 and he lead the AL in home runs with 36
So true, eh? See how I threw that in there?
It makes you wonder what his career would have been like had he stayed a Blue Jay for a while longer, of if he would have blocked Delgado from arriving. Did he have his best years with the Jays because he was young, or because he liked the team and park and didn't adjust as well to other locations and moving around so much? Who knows, but it's fun to speculate!
Who won the WS MVP for both of the Blue Jays titles?
92 MVP was catcher Pat Borders, and 93 MVP was Paul Molitor
Great video but just a correction. Construction on Skydome started in 1986 not 1983.
Thanks for checking it out, and apologies if I got a detail wrong there! Hopefully it was mostly accurate beyond that 😬
Nice Video
Thank you, hope you enjoyed it!
@Brutus on Baseball Yeah I did I learned a lot about the Blue Jays and their origin story
Excellent
Although it is going to be an uphill climb, I think Delgado could eventually make it. Supposed “clean” masher during the “Steroid Era”. Would have hit another 50+ Home Runs if it weren’t for a freak base running injury that ended his career in 2009. He hit over 450 Home Runs and had nearly 1,500 RBI in only essentially 13 seasons. If it wasn’t for Mike Sweeney getting the mandatory MLB spot for my Royals during the early 2000’s he would have been an All-Star another 2-3 times. There is also an argument to be made that he should be a 1x MVP (2003) and very well could be a 2x MVP (2000 and 2003). I guess that is the price you pay for playing in a faraway outpost for an overachieving, contending team both years, whose playoff chances never really materialized. Interesting to see if he is on the VC ballot in 2026.
I agree that he should be considered more, but I'm not as optimistic of his chances. Especially with how many players from this Era are seemingly in front of him for the Vet committee votes. I really enjoyed watching him play though, and agree he was better than most people remember him to be
@@brutusonbaseball Oh don’t get me wrong, I’m not optimistic at all honestly, but I do have hope that the players know who were the “bad men” when they played, and Delgado was a bad dude. A slightly lesser Jim Thome without the longevity. I agree there are a few guys ahead of him in his era: Lofton, Edmonds, Kent, etc.; and not to mention the PED guys with better resumes.
@@MatthewTCCRS agreed 100%. Especially Edmonds!
You forgot to mention how Boutista paid for that bat flip the next season 😂
I did neglect to mention that, didn't I??? 🤣
Rogers bought the Jays for an absolute steal.
No kidding huh? Great investment no matter if the team makes money or not each year. And most teams do...
Let’s go jays
Tough division once again in that AL East!
Once Labatts sold the team to a foreign company and Pat Gillick left i stopped following them.
That was a long while ago! Just couldn't stomach any non-Canadians running the show?
@@brutusonbaseball Pat Gillick is from California and the #1 baseball mind of the past 50 years. The people running the team since Gillick left are intellectual light weights.
@905JimRaynor makes sense, who do you follow now then that carries the torch?