Calvinism almost destroyed my faith and my life. It drove me deep into despair and anxiety. It took me a year and a half to study my way out of it after being exposed to it in Bible College. Those were some of the hardest and darkest years of my life. There is no doubt in my mind that it is indeed a doctrine of demons and very destructive.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. I do these videos in hopes some people who are not yet in that same predicament but are starting down that path into Calvinism due to listening to some Calvinist pastor online or even at their local church, will hopefully see some of my videos and heed the warning and think twice about it and really test what they are hearing against Scripture. Thankfully, you were delivered out of that deception. Praise the Lord! Thanks for the comment. God bless you!
@@johnathanl8396When a smooth talking false teacher convinces you god has the character of satan! Something in you dies. Your 5-Point Calvinism is a cancer demanding that you be accepted as a Christian. I do not. I mark them, as we are told to expose false teachers preaching another gospel to what Paul preached. True full blown Calvinists are not even saved let alone Christians. Christians are Christians! Calvinists are Calvinists! Mormons are Mormons! Calvinists believe god created all things, and controls all things, predetermined all things, and made all things exactly the way they are. ... thus god also created evil. therefore since Calvinists believe god created evil. they are blaspheming against the holy spirit ... the only unforgivable sin. Calvinists also believe the only people who will be saved have been predetermined by god. and since Calvinists believe god predetermined who will be saved ... they have removed free will - the gift of god to humans, and removed Jesus from the equation. since god (according to Calvinists) has already determined who will be saved ... (and who will not be saved) ... those who will be saved do not need Christ and those who will not be saved cannot come to christ. thus Calvinists are not Christians.
@@johnathanl8396 I know what he’s talking about ….because in Calvinism you have to believe in a God that literally created only a few people to go to Heaven. And a whole lot of people who were literally created just to go to hell with no hope for redemption at all.
I go to a non-denominational church where the associate pastor was reformed in his theology. I only recently dove into the weeds of Calvinism, discovering the finer points, or should I say the 5 points and what that truly means. Needless to say, as a born-again Christian for 30+ years, i immediately saw it for the heresy that it is. It is as shocking to me that so many Christians are deceived by Calvinism as it is that so many are deceived by the word faith and nar movements! Both are outright false doctrines! Anyway, I discovered that our associate pastor was a covert calvinist. Meaning, he was planted by a reformed group in the city to slowly and methodically teach the false doctrines of Calvinism to our church so they could eventually absorb another congregation into the fold of reformed calvinists. When I realized what was happening, i began to pray him out. 3 weeks later, and he has unexpectedly and without explanation resigned his position and left the church and gone his way! Even the head pastor doesn't know why or where he has gone? I never communicated any of my findings or concerns to anyone except my wife and the Lord, as i did not want to interject myself and my personal convictions upon others without an open invitation to do so. It would seem however, that my prayers were not in vain and my concerns not without merit.
@robbyclark6915, No elect can be deceived by whatever false doctrine.. "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24)
" He decreed what He was to do, and now by His power executes what He decreed. Hence we maintain, by His providence, not Heaven and earth and inanimate creatures only but also the causels and wills of men are so governed as to move exactly in the course which He has destined" Calvin's Institutes; book 1, chptr 16, prgph 8. Calvinists conflate God's sovereignty with absolute determinism (as described above). God's foreknowledge of all events does not make Him the causal agent of all events (see Jeremiah 19:5 for one of many examples)
In order to win a debate with Pelagius, Augustine pulled from his Gnostic Manicheanism & created "Absolute Determinism/Theistic Determinism/Meticulous Determinism" (take your pick) stating God controls all events at all times, even the actions & words spoken by men (very similar to Islam). Calvin went from a lawyer to a sudo Christian theologian. Heard about Augustine's works & debates, which influenced his rewriting of the salvific work of God. This is where the West Minster & LBC get "God decrees all things, whatsoever comes to pass..." Then it immediately contradicts itself with "Buuut your sin is on you Pal, you own that" (a paraphrase non-Calvinists use to show hypocrisy & irony).
The issue is not if you were a Calvinist before the foundation of the world. The issue is were you elect unto salvation before the foundation of the world. If you were, then you are saved, yea, counted among the eternally redeemed. If you were not, then the news is not so pretty good. God does save those who believe. But the key point is that He gives them the ability to believe. Eph2:8-9. The redeemed are granted repentance. They are appointed unto salvation like it says in Acts. The Arminian says, "How dare God misbehave arbitrarily like that and choose some for salvation and not others or, better, everyone else? That's not fair! That violates the 14th Amendment Equal Protection Clause! LOL. Aside: Much of this issue of Arminians not believing in biblical salvation is an American thing. Missionaries are full of stories of how peoples in places like Asia and Africa get the doctrines of grace. Give them a Bible and they teach themselves how to be Augustinians. But all of us, Arminians included, are already living in a world where God (or some other guilty party--LOL) "arbitrarily" wills or causes a very large number of people to have a not so lovely human life on this planet. Ever watch an ad on television requesting your money to feed the starving in Africa or Asia? The ad shows images of the pitiful starving. Why are not those people sitting in their homes watching you and me starving? That's election. Not soteriological election, but election of some sort. And we could think of a gillion such instances--war casualties, 911, stage 4 pancreatic cancer patients. We glibly say, "there but for the grace of God go I". In a similar, not identical vein, all of us already, by default, deal with, and live in a world with, God's elective selective grace.
@@DanielBShaw We all have, you included Jake. But God in His infinite love and mercy regenerates the lost person. A/Ps flap around and talk about how they had faith, how they turned from sin, etc. What stumps them to no end is that they then cannot answer the question, "How did you get there?" In other words, how did a lost swine sinner like you (and me) ever know that the truth of God was the truth of God? Further, then how did a lost swine sinner like you (and me), since we were dead in trespasses and sins ever have the ability to repent of sin and throw ourselves upon the splendid mercies of Christ? A/Ps cannot answer those questions without resorting to the use of the word "I". And the instant they do use the word "I" they are telling you that they saved themselves. Whether they are honest enough to admit that or not. When A/P/Ts speak of making themselves saveable (making a choice, conjuring up faith, making a decision, etc) they are following original Roman Catholic doctrine about being "inherently righteous" in order to be saved. The hysterical part of that is that the A/P/Ts go a step further by not requiring the assistance of a priest. Thus, the A/P/T schema places the would be believer standing with both feet firmly planted in mid-air. A real hat trick. LOL.
That killed me man! That was so funny! Thanks for that, i really needed it. I enjoy your channel & yes i know calvinists & they would condemn the Vader skit. God Bless you
Went to a stealth Calvinist Church for 3 years without a clue what TULIP meant. Once I learned I QUICKLY escaped. Here's 5 things I learned looking back at this experience: 1. There was not a whole lot of joy among the people. 2. No communion for you unless you signed their man-made "covenant" membership dotted line. 3. Never once explained their most revered flower TULIP. Very stealth in this regard. 4. Lots of 50¢ words that still don't make sense. 5. Not a whole lotta emphasis on love. A perfect bible verse that sums up Calvinists would be 2 Timothy 3:7 which states "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." I put John Calvin up there with Joseph Smith.
You should collaborate with Warren Magrew Idol Killer on funny memes/videos on the Absurdity of Calvinism, I think you both can come up with a video that is Not only funny but effective In hitting home the Absurdity of Calvinism. Personally John Calvin is NOT in my opinion the driving force of Calvinism today but Reformed Apologetics that was Influenced by Cornelius Van Til and combined with the teaching of Theology Proper (Greek Philosophy, Neoplatonism, Doctrine of God, Perfect Being Theology)is the two HEADED Monster of Calvinism Today.
"The fact that charismatics have to work so hard to defend their doctrine of the spiritual gifts, is proof that they aren't in operation today." Justin Peters. " The fact that calvinists have to work so hard to convince other Christians that Calvinism is biblical, is proof that it's not. " Brian and myself, and the vast majority of Bible believing Christians.
@@johornbuckle5272 No Calvinism just portrays a picture of God as a tyrannical monster who literally went to all the trouble of creating everything and everyone just so He can cast the vast majority of His creation into a flaming pit of eternal suffering and damnation called hell because He chose them for that end. While only a small,select, chosen,few get to spend eternity in paradise with God because He decided before the foundations of the world that they would be saved and literally everyone else would be damned for eternity. Btw, there’s absolutely nothing you or I can do to alter our own nor anyone else’s eternal fate. It’s simply decided by God at His own discretion and choosing. Enjoy hell everyone! Unless you’re one of the elect few? You just never know? Yeah, nothing wrong with that huh?
@@robbyclark6915 There are videos (which you can look up) wherein Christopher Hitchens and Madalyn Murray O'Hair almost word for word agree with your rejection of the doctrines of grace.
Why don't you do a quick Google search before making statements that at best make you look ignorant or at worst imply that you're a liar.@@johnathanl8396
@@williamjarrell8475 Oh yeah Calvin wanted Servetus to die so bad that Calvin actively told Servetus to STAY AWAY FROM GENEVA with intent to stop him from being executed.
Great comment. Thanks. I sincerely appreciate when someone gets how humor can educate and reveal truth and also illustrate absurdity and dangerous thinking. God bless you!
@@faithonfireministries Brian, I have a very good question for you, and I want you to think about this. When is the believer given salvation and eternal life? Do we have it now or will it be given to us at the appearing of our Savior, Yahushua?
@@Scripturesdude6361 Brian, I will help you on this one. The answer is both and at all times in between. I will let you easily look up the Bible support.
Calvinists seem to be unconcerned about a dying world and more concerned about converting Christians. Now who would be behind that? Thank you for shining the light on this basic truth.
Not true at all. One of the greatest evangelists that the world has ever seen was Rev. George Whitefield who was a Calvinist. My Church is calvinist and is extremely evangelistic. Also its hypocritical for you to say that when you should be trying to save a dying world rather than making a stupid comment!
What an absence of knowledge of church history you nakedly demonstrate. In Calvin's times his disciples spread the gospel to Brazil no less! Yes, that Brazil. Very remarkable work since this was not long after Columbus discovered the New World. In Europe their missionary zeal left its marks all the way into the British Isles, Scandinavia, etc. And you should already know that the folks on the Mayflower and the Puritans believed in the Calvinist version of the doctrines of grace. Spoiler alert: Like this had much to do with the founding of our nation. Please learn church history. Also, learn the Great Commission. It applies to all who name the name of our dear Lord. Why? We are commanded to spread the Word. You don't have to be a Calvinist to have a burden for the lost. Remember that our Lord came to seek and to save that which was lost.
A lot of Calvinist trolls are commenting on this channel, saying they too preach the good news. But the UNIQUE CLAIMS of Calvinism are terrible and are NOT good news!
Oh yes! I get Calvinist trolls here unfortunately but mostly it is Christians who make great comments, some who agree with me and some who disagree with me on this or that. It's all good. I love the iron sharpens iron dynamic of this comments section.
Always enjoy your videos Brian and your courage to call out this "another gospel". Another thought I had this morning is that Calvinists seem to be experts in the area of gaslighting. I've noticed that whenever they are confronted with an obvious conclusion that their doctrine leads to, they ALWAYS either gaslight you or tell you that you do not understand Calvinism. A simple example: You tell a Calvinist that their doctrine makes God unfair by condemning a person as soon as he comes out of the womb and they will spin it or tell you that you don't understand Calvinism. They will NEVER ADMIT this obvious conclusion that their god is unfair and a respecter of persons, or use their favorite "get out of a dilemma card" by quoting Romans 9:20 "But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God?" In other words, we need to check out our brain anytime Calvinist cognitive dissonance comes into play.
I like what I’m hearing. I’ve committed so many sins I’ve been living in terror since reading my Bible. I believe totally in Jesus as my Lord and Saviour . God bless you ❤❤❤
Confirmed, another FOF darth Vader edition on Father’s Day haha. Looking forward to it and more videos of Brian exhorting the one and only true gospel of Christ, along the way.
Why are Calvinist so angry and arrogant? I had one say yesterday that my friend is probably not saved because he said “that goofy sinners prayer”. His words not mine. I didn’t know Calvinist were privy to the hearts of men and their relationships with the Father.
UNSAVED CALVINISTS: "Faith doesn't save because believing on Jesus is a work." Then they said to Jesus, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?" Jesus answered them, "This is the Work of God: That you believe on Him whom He has sent." (John 6:28-29)
They only need to read Romans 3: 26-28 to realize that believing in Christ is NOT a work but is faith, and faith is never a work according to God's Word.
@@faithonfireministries Now to one who works, his wages are not reckoned as of grace but as his due. But to one who DOES NOT WORK, but BELIEVES on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness. So also David describes the blessedness of the man to whom God reckons righteousness WITHOUT WORKS: "Blessed are those whose sins are forgiven [PAST sins], and whose sins are covered [PRESENT sins]; blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin. [FUTURE sins]" (Romans 4:4-8) Paul said "to one who DOES NOT WORK, but BELIEVES." That Paul is saying believing is not a work is crystal clear. (Words in brackets are my own explanations.) Jesus was being sarcastic with the Pharisees in John 6, and Calvinists are essentially modern-day Pharisees. The Lord apparently has a sense of humour.
@@reynaldodavid2913Jo The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come." And let him who hears say, "Come." And let him who is thirsty come. And whoever ➡️WILLS⬅️ let him take the water of life ➡️FREELY⬅️. (Revelation 22:17)
The debate topic was, does John 6: 44 support unconditional election. I think James White forgot that. The moment Flowers asked him about infants going to hell due to unconditional election and James White refused to answer that and got very offended he even brought it up, boom! The debate was over and Flowers won, proving that even diehard Calvinists like James White are not willing to defend the false ideology of unconditional election when the implications of it are explored. Sure, with adults Calvinists will pronounce it far and wide, but with children they shrink back and seem offended by their own doctrine.
@@faithonfireministries The debate was on John 6 and White was NOT in the wrong for not wanting to talk about the complex issue of infant salvation in the middle of a debate about that text. You're projecting a singular belief on Calvinists that doesn't exist, for example Todd Friel has a different view of Infant's salvation than James White. No Reformed confession speaks to the issue of infant salvation, so acting like us Calvinists "avoid the topic" is ridiculous.
can you please do a video on spencer smith. he says that a change life is proof that your saved, isn't this what Charles Spurgeon said? I'm confused. ty so much....
I've covered Spencer Smith before. I've joked that the Gospel according to Spencer Smith is to believes on Jesus and hate whatever Spencer hates this week, and then you will be saved, but if you don't hate what he hates then you are a heathen reprobate. Actually, I believe he is a stealth Calvinist. He has too many red flags, such as affirming Total Depravity, the T in TULIP, on his website statement of faith. He often lifts up other Calvinists as great Godly men to admire such as Spurgeon, MacArthur, and others. I'm sure I'll end up doing another video on Spencer eventually. I have thought of doing some so many times but the idea comes and goes and I don't end up doing that particular video about him simply because I don't have the time to make a lot of videos. I try to get one done each week. Thanks for the comment. God bless you!
I'm just learning and growing in Christ, but to me he idolizes Charles spurgeon he has all kinds of stuff in his shop with c .s. on them. Even coffee cups. Not very smart but i call that idolizing, love in Christ.
USMC? My brother is USMC. Thanks for serving our country. SEMPER FI! Good vid on Calvinsm. I though the DV video was cool 😊😊❤❤. God created us in his image. He gave us the ability to have a sense of humor and to be creative. Not to be political. However you forgot to mention how majority of the South were Calvinists. That was NonCalvinists such as John Wesley, Sir William Wilburforce that led the fight for Abolitionism. The Dutch Afrikaners were who initiated Apartheid.
Good eye! I was not in the USMC, but my dad was. That is his picture under his USMC Sword on the wall. He is wearing the red Marine Corps League uniform. He went on to be with the Lord in 2019. On the other matter, I'm sure there were plenty of Calvinists then and still now that stand for very good causes. However, their main distinctive doctrines do not comply with God's Word and far too often they do lead to indifference or even hatred against those who do not follow Calvinism, because it creates an arrogant attitude of religious elitism.
There is nothing in the theologies of Wesley or Calvin that predisposes people to be for or against slavery. There were plenty of non-Calvinist racists and plenty of Calvinist racists.
@@johnathanl8396 I am looking at the bigger picture, first of all. I am certain there were good Calvinists that fought against slavery. And sure, unfortunately, I am sure there were Non-Calvinist proponents of slavery. However, looking at the bigger picture, it wasn't Calvinist leaders that were leading the charge against slavery. Jonathan Edwards was a big time proponent of Slavery and he was a prominent Calvinist Minister. The idea of theological determinism (or God's Sovereignty) was used to justify slavery.
@@angeliquaserenity5009 You understand that atheist liberals say that Christianity and the Bible (in general) were used supported slavery in the 19th century? You're literally doing the exact same thing except turning it on your theological opponent.
@@johnathanl8396 Of course. I don't believe the Bible supports or justifies slavery. The Underground Railroad and the Abolitionist movement used the Bible as justification for Abolitionism. We would not need the Slaver's Bible if the Bible supported slavery. That of course is a red herring issue in light of the point(s) that I am making, however. I am trying to point out that the specific theology of Calvinism is basically a bus stop for a theological justification of predetermined slavery.
In Calvinism, salvation is exclusive, and the number fixed. Death & sin were destroyed ONLY for their pre-chosen elect. Not 1 person may be added to it. For all things are fixed & predetermined by God. Although they do celebrate his birthday every year, I'm shocked Calvinists don't label John Calvin a modern-day prophet! John Calvin: “No one can disprove the doctrine I have expounded except he who pretends to be wiser than the Spirit of God.” (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, p.161)
In this one sense at least it does not matter whether one believes in A/P or Calvinism: The same number of people and the same people by name go to Heaven, and the same number of people and the same people by name go to Hell. So what's the difference? The difference is that only Calvinism (the proper term is Augustinianism) tells us how and why that is so based on the Bible. You can squawk, flap around, and make noise all you want, but the doctrines of grace, not even thought up by Calvin in the first place (for crying out loud) are practically on every page of scripture.
@@johngraves9237 I believe in God! I am a Christian! What I was trying to say was that God is truly in control, therefore everything (even evil) happens under His sovereign will. Which is how we can trust Him - because He is indeed in control.
Well I haven't seen a Hollywood movie in decades and same for television, and I avoided looking at this video for three weeks because I thought the premise in the title somewhat absurd, but I am here laughing like mad at the excerpt you played. What a scream. But it seems not everyone found it funny. One has to ask whether it's the case that people have lost their sense of humour as well as their common sense.
God is sovereign but Calvinists distort the meaning of that word and apply it to God to mean that God meticulously determined from before time began everything that anybody thinks or does and all that happens. Calvinists forget all about Satan and his influence over the world. So, when you hear someone say "sovereign grace" or "sovereign saving grace" that sounds really Christian-like and Biblical almost, but it is not. Real Christians don't use that phrase. It is a Calvinist phrase and code language used to fool the unsuspecting Christian and draw them in further for more Calvinistic teaching and indoctrination. What they really mean by that is God already chose the ones who will be saved before time began. That is the U in TULIP, Unconditional Election. That also means by default that God chose everyone else for reprobation and damnation and all of it is set in stone. So, in a nutshell, when you hear the phrase "sovereign grace" just remember that is Calvinism you are hearing.
Darth Vader actually repents in the series!!! He actually repairs his father son relationship and ends the Evil Empire before death. It is a beautiful tool to use. Hopefully, one day, Jesus Christ can be the Center of Star Wars versus the Pantheist New Age View. But, it also shows a Creator and Evil exists, and we can do something about evil, and how temptations snares us. Seriously, Star Wars covers all of it. We gotta reach our youth now!!! Our kids!! Learn their language. A Gospel according to Darth Vader could do that.
I’ll take a joke any day over someone actually trying to teach me that the “hard truth” (that only the super rugged and tough can handle 🙄) is that God authors all evil in this world. Guess I’m not super tough to handle those clever “hard truths”. 🤷🏻♀️
Lets pause from "Calvanism Bashing" for a moment. What does 'Brian' believe? I mean, specifically because I don't know what he believes, only that he loaves Calvinism
@@Maximum-One7 I think he does not want people to one day hear "Depart from me you cursed, I never knew you." People cannot "know" Jesus based on false pretenses. (Ex: Pharisees and Sadducees).
John Calvin was alive during the Black Plague, and when he was requested to go back to Geneva, where it was safer. He refused and stayed with his church in the plague hot spot.
Calvin did in some ways deny himself and did shorten his life by his service for others,but when it came to those who disagreed with him,HE WAS ANYTHING BUT CHRISTLIKE!
@Steve-og4ii I am careful not to be critical of Christians of the past. We do not have all the details. I am black, and I constantly have to rebuke other black Christians who say white slave masters were not Christian. It is easy to talk with our modern sensibilities and safeties that our generation was blessed with.
@@rogervincent2092 thank you for your kind and thoughtful reply ,brother. It's hard to be truthful without being overly critical at times. But in the case of Jihn Calvin,there us abundant and undeniable evidence of his treatment of those who disagreed with his theology. Confiscation of property, imprisonment, fines,,banishment and even death was the experience of those under under Calvin's Geneva. This was official, documented enforcement. Calvin and other Reformers yoked with government officials in their persecution of other Christians. A very sad commentary on the condition of the official church of that time. It must be remembered that Calvin simply mirrored Augustin, who likewise persecuted his opposition when they could not be otherwise persuaded. God bless you brother 🙏
@@rogervincent2092 but,brother, is our Christian character, Christ - likeness,and obedience to the teachings of the Scriptures, to be subjected to the culture of our times?!?,. Calvin's treatment of other true Christians is absolutely inexcusable ,and seriously calls into question the reality of his conversion! In fact,his testimony is vague at best,mostly a revised version of his former Catholic beliefs.. to be honest I'm rather surprised that you would, in any way defend his conduct, especially using worldly standards and reasoning. Perhaos,Perhaps, such reasoning that could open the door to a repeat of such conduct his devoted followers of today, should lke conditions present themselves. In summary, are we as Christians, merely to be the product of our times and circumstances,?!?
As a side note, you might want to look at the Christianization of Alaska in the late 19th Century. The big push was to Christianize the Eskimo, Aleut, and other indigenous tribes. Guess what! They were already Christian, being Christianized by Russian Missionaries like St. Herman of Alaska. Of special interest are St. Peter the Aleut and St. Olga the Aleut. Alaska proves your point!!!
Perhaps we can make a video where Darth Vader preaches Calvinism and chokes those the question it. Just like Calvin himself. In fact when his helmet comes off, its a wrinkly old Calvin himself! Or better yet John MacArthur. But the idea that you can never lose your salvation comes from Calvin as well and was not taught prior to him.
Good idea. I love it. However, I will disagree with you on that last point. Perseverance of the Saints (POTS) is deceptively tight as eternal security, and the same as OSAS. It is not. 0SAS is biblical and I have videos going through the Scriptures on that. POTS offers no eternal security because it’s only valid in their doctrine for the elect which is already unbiblical but furthermore, one must live out their life in good works and faithfulness to have proven oneself was truly saved and one of the elect. That is what John Calvin taught and there isn’t any eternal security, in that.
Jesus is not referring to them as literally having Satan as their father nor that they are literally children of Satan, but because the are unbelievers who are liars like Satan who is the father of lies, and that fact is established in Genesis 3 in the garden. Those corrupt Jewish religious leaders were emulating Satan by being liars. It is like saying a biologist today is like their father Aristotle because Aristotle is known as the father of biology. Satan has no real children. People are not created in the image of Satan. All people are created in the image of God. However, an unbeliever who comes to faith in Jesus Christ becomes saved by the gift of God's grace, and at that moment they transferred from death into life or metaphorically speaking from darkness into the light, a "child of Satan" into a "child of God." Child of God or sons of God is a Biblical metaphor for believer, just as in Matthew 25 sheep vs goats in judgement are metaphors, sheep for believers and goats for unbelievers.
Is Jesus lying? That is your question to me? You are so ridiculous and can't discern between facts and metaphors. You might as well ask if Jesus is lying to us if we are not literally sheep. There is no way to have a reasonable intelligent conversation with a person like you.
@@faithonfireministries, why not prove me wrong with a scripture if I am wrong, First you concluded that children of the devil is a metaphor without evidence, 2nd it is not only in John 8:44 that Jesus speaks of children of the devil. In the parable of Wheat and Tares, Jesus even revealed that there are only two(2) kinds of people in the world. The children of God who are predestined to be saved and the children of the devil that are predestined to be burned in fire..
Scripture is very clear and explicit... Do not kill!!! It doesn't say do not kill unless he or she disagrees with you. Furthermore, Jesus said Love your enemies, something Jean calvin disagreed.
Despite what this video claims, John Calvin did NOT want Servetus to be killed in Geneva. And, even if he did, all heretics were given the death penalty back then, that's just the nature of Church and State back then (literally every group was doing it!). And if killing is wrong in itself, why is ancient Israel told to kill many groups of people and enemies?
Perhaps you are obliquely referring to the Michael Servetus case. If so, you are in way over your head. You and I had as much to do with the death of Michael Servetus as John Calvin did. Read up on it. Learn church history.
Calvinism vs Scripture is the real issue. Scripture should be our sole authority, not reformed systematic theology books and confessionals. Calvinists lie about God and God's Word to push false presuppositions into Scripture that are Satanically inspired pagan doctrines that hijacked and redefined certain Bible terms. Some Calvinists don't realize what they are doing and are sincere about their beliefs, but they are still wrong. That is how deception works. The ones being deceived often don't realize it unless they set aside their presuppositions that were taught to them and plant themselves firmly in the Word of God alone for quite some time and trust the Holy Spirit to lead them into Truth, just as Jesus Christ said He would, the Holy Spirit being called the Spirit of Truth. Sadly, most Calvinists would rather follow and trust the words of men they admire than to even believe God's Word.
@@faithonfireministries but the question is what kind of scripture? English translation or Greek derivative? That’s where the non-Calvinist gets tripped up.
@@faithonfireministries I wouldn't believe in Calvinist soteriology if it wasn't for Scripture's testimony to it. You don't have a problem with systematic theology books, you have a problem with the Bible.
My father died of brain cancer and I would never be so unbelieving in God as to blaspheme Him by saying He is not sovereign. Yes, death and cancer hurt. But a sovereign God willed a curse upon this world because of Adam's original sin. Yet at the same time He provided a way for salvation from the curse. Even Brian believes that. So should you.
@@Gablesman888 I used to be Baptist and a Calvinist, God can't do evil and giving someone cancer is evil for no reason as I believed. I now see that all people are under the judgment of the Torah for living. However, most things happen by fate as the divine left control of this world do to sin.
With all your respect, brother and sisters im a Calvinist choosing from God no because I’m better than everybody because of his mercy on me in my response to that is to preach other people to come to God I’m just a simple man just like you trying to reach other people to be safe in the no parish After all, I’m just a beggar tell hanother beggar, where I found bread
with all due respect this man is my husband up there abellopez4112 he has let this brain washing destroy our family our marriage even now to the point financially he doesn’t even fork a dime out to help his wife with any bills he has hoarded money sent it to others drinks from time to time when i knew he had a religious spirit on him he has laughed at times but we all see the change i pray for his soul i feel like i am fighting satan for his soul back he is so confused abt. christianity and he is destroying his own family with this divorce is immenent so be leary of what yall listening to on you tube
Darth Vader does not kill the unbeliever though. He just gives him a taste of death to wake him up. God does that too in many ways to us today. Your Welcome.
I wonder if the laws were different a Justin Peter's or a John MacArthur would murder pentecostals. They have such disdain for real believers. I watched JP have glee talking tongues talkers out of the gift
I answered this concept and question in detail, giving both a Biblical and historical answer to it in this recent video: ruclips.net/video/vXj15Xu2BR8/видео.html I did not mention anybody in particular in that video, but I believe it is a very insightful teaching.
That's horrendous and evil that you would put those intentions on MacArthur and Peters. What has gotten in you anti-Calvinists heads that Calvinists are just so evil? Calvin himself tried to tell Servetus to NOT GO TO GENEVA because Calvin knew the Genevan government would have executed Servetus. That doesn't sound murderous to me.
Calvinists', when quoting Romans 8:30..."and those whom he predestined he also called"...YOU need to go back to verse 29, "For those whom he FOREKNEW he also predestined to be conformed..." In other words, God called us because he already knew we would believe so he predestined us to be the image of his Son and do good works. Verse 29 seems to be left out when quoting Romans 8:30 regarding Calvinist's? God Bless
Im a Born-again Reformed Baptist church and believe in the doctrine of Calvinism hard 5 points. I don't force or try to convince anyone of this. I do believe you must be Born-again and confess with your mouth Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in this name. Please 🙏 educate yourself.
God bless you brother. And watch out for the Arminian/Provisionist arrows. LOL. It was Billy Graham who said that getting into the ring with skeptics, backslidden, and outright non-believers and attempting to answer their questions about Jesus sharpens the mind and opens the heart to the plight of sinners looking for answers.
Matthew, I'm educated and don't agree with you on Calvinism. My point would be I'm educated and choose to reject Calvinism; your point is God predetermined me to reject your Calvinism. So I couldn't change my mind unless God irresistibly causes me to. At 72 years old God is running out of time if He chooses to change me. So I couldn't change even if I wanted to.
Amen A few more funny videos, keep them coming, not that there is ever anything to run out of, talking about with these heretic Calvinist/lordshippers, but funny how a video like that brings them out to condemn you. (Critical, fruit inspectors) Maybe they see it as a sin, as they are so perfect and would never do anything like that. But scripture is clear, let them be accursed.
Calvinisim is a lie from the pits of hell. With that said, we can not take predestination out of God's word. It must be taught correctly, and Calvinisim is a dangerous lie.
@johnathanl8396 I believe in both. Both are clearly in God's word. Predestination and free-will, or humans making choices. I can give you many scriptures. I don't put God Almighty in a box.
@@ironleatherwood Why is Calvinism "a lie from the pit of hell" then"? Us Calvinists don't deny that all humans need to make a conscience choice to love and honor God (as Scripture calls us to do), but we also don't deny that God is the key actor in getting us to that point (which Scripture also affirms).
The essence of Calvinism is this.....God saves some individuals by specifically choosing them from among the rest of humanity that He has created. All of those who are not elect spend eternity in unrelenting torture and this was determined before they were ever born. This has been decreed and believed by the calvinists. The God of their creation they call a God of Love. The actions and will of God have redefined the word Love. So that the individual who loves is an ornery, cruel, nasty person who enjoys watching people and animals suffer. Compare this individual with the person of Christ. If you don't see the difference, you might be a calvinist.
My observation with the Calvinist clan is that they "intellectualize" the gospel and have books upon books backing every jot and tittle of their twisted view of scripture. Their philosophical approach complicates the simple gospel that even children should be able to understand. In order to understand their doctrine, it would take years and years of leader John Calvin study. Did God really make it that complicated??? Reminds me of Jesus' warning in Matthew 23:13 where he states "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in." I believe that if anyone is truly saved in a Calvinist church it happened prior to getting sucked into Calvinism since there is no biblical gospel in Calvinism (but only election or "lucky lottery winners"). Their high mindedness "systematic theology" and 50¢ words (use to be 25¢ words prior to the recent inflation) corrupt the simple gospel that Jesus loves you, died for your sins, and is offering you the free gift of salvation if you so choose. Just like Adam and Eve, God gave them a choice. I love Calvinist people. I just can't see God as someone who created the majority of people so he could hate them from the get-go out of the womb and throw them into hell (for his glory of course) with no choice whatsoever.
You love Calvinists so much that you project that they are Pharisees and "high minded" and actively twist Scripture. You have the same problem you say that Calvinists have - because you believe in an omnipotent God then that means you believe that God 100% KNOWS AND HAS THE ABILITY TO INTERVENE IF SOMEONE IS ON THEIR WAY TO HELL. Us Calvinists and you non-calvinists have the same problem of answering for that truth. The only difference is Calvinists can back up their interpretation with Scripture and you can not.
Great again. Calvin burnt people on the steak because they did not agree with his interpretation. I hate biblical philosophy, can't stand it. More on if there is something right about Calvinism, it is from the bible, not John Calvin. Thanks In Christ, Pastor Joel.
Many of you are in way over your head on the Michael Servetus case. Calvin complained repeatedly about Servetus' heresies. Ironically, these are heresies today proclaimed by the A/P/T crowd such as denial of original sin and various Trinity issues. Calvin did neither prosecute nor convict Servetus of heresy. That was the work of the Genevan Council which also sentenced Servetus to death. Where Calvin's name comes into the story and where the "goats" start slandering Calvin is that it was Calvin who suggested to the Council that Servetus be beheaded instead of burnt at the stake which was what the law mandated. In other words, the goats must know the history here and know that Servetus was condemned to die without Calvin's involvement at all. Now I suppose you can stay up all night musing over which one of those punishments is the lesser, but Calvin was trying to give the guy a break in a situation that Calvin had no control over. Hope you notice that heresies, like the ones that some "Christians" espouse today nakedly, were taken seriously back then. That was a different time indeed. Much like the times of Moses and the children of Israel as they wandered in the wilderness. This is a much longer story and I wish there were better RUclips videos on it. I have reached my self imposed blog limit since I neither write windy blogs nor read those of others.
@user-qs2hn1xo3l Phew back atcha. Certainly limited atonement can be biblically proven through Bible verse exegesis. But what if you could see that the Arminian/Provisionist atonement schema was impossible? I mean impossible like you cannot get there from here impossible? Let's use both Bible passages and Bible logic. First, Brian himself in this video most definitely believes in limited atonement. Otherwise, he would believe in universal atonement. And there are some Christians, however mixed up, who believe that everyone is saved. Brian is a limited man on this issue. But let's put this to the test. Pick your favorite OT lost person. Do you like Goliath? Pharoah? Ahab? Jezebel? Any will do. According to Jesus in the NT, where are these folks right now and what are they doing? They are in Hell, experiencing forever the wrath of God against them, having died in their sins, and now paying for their sinfulness throughout eternity. Now back to Jesus. If, say, Ahab is at this very moment experiencing the wrath of God forever and ever for his sins, then how could a just, righteous, and loving God force His wrath upon His Son on the cross 880 years later to pay for Ahab's sins when Ahab has been doing just that already for 880 years before Calvary? To believe that, we have the situation of Christ being crucified again, something really condemned in Hebrews 6. A/Ps love to see Jesus placed in theological double jeopardy as He suffers on the cross. Further, we also run afoul of Isaiah 53 wherein we have the depiction of the suffering servant (Jesus) seeing the travail of His soul and being satisfied. Not dissatisfied. Not worrying about Ahab still suffering for Ahab's sins despite what Jesus would attempt to do for him. And we don't have a truly angry Son of God wondering why the Father is making Him die in vain for someone in Hell forever anyway. Do you see the many problems here? In other words, Isaiah 53 is saying that Jesus is not some kind of masochist who just likes to suffer for sin; instead He suffers for the sins of a particular people, in this case, the elect. And only the elect. A limited (like Brian and Calvinists would both agree on) albeit large group of people. Jesus prays about this very thing in John 17 when he declines to pray for the world. And our Dear Lord is satisfied in His great work to save these elect people. The people given to Christ by the Father for salvation. Again, John 17. This one teaching from God's word destroys Arminian/Provisionism in one move since we see here from God's word that Christ did not die for everyone. He died for the elect. Have a problem with that? Talk to the judge. That will preach all day. Amen.
@user-qs2hn1xo3l Phew back atcha. This so called quandary is not a quandary at all. It is a God thing. The same scripture has the potential of blessing or condemning, depending on whether or not God has elected a person to salvation in the first place. Note how the Hebrews writer says that by faith Noah condemned the world as he built the ark and preached God's word to a dying world. Note also that back in Genesis you do not see a conversation between God and Noah where Noah asks God why there are not more first class passenger seats on the ark. God at first only says that Noah and his family will ride to safety. Brian and apparently you forget why the ark was built and floated in the first place. God had pronounced judgment against mankind, but would not carry it out for some one hundred years. Every day Noah was working on the ark, the under construction ark was a daily increasing pronouncement against man's wickedness. And then the defining moment. The Bible says that God commanded Noah and his family to enter the ark. That verse in Genesis to me is the most scary and stark election verse in the OT. Why? Because the moment God shut up Noah and crew inside the ark, everyone inside that ark knew they were elected unto salvation. But everyone outside that door was doomed to Hell and reside there even now as I write and you read this comment. And there is always some Arminian who gets this next point wrong. God did not create fresh evil in the hearts of the doomed. He did not need to. Why? God just took his hands off the lives of the doomed and let the default condition of man (original sin) run its course. God chose and gave grace and mercy to Noah and crew. The people on the ground got the justice, according to God's command, that they deserved. Arminians, if you have a problem with that, talk to the Judge.
Calvinists are not necessarily heretics. They seem to feel it is right to ascribe to God full sovereignty, i can see their point after all believers are predestined. Howevr calvinism opens up the conclusion of double predestination and i disagree on that but many reformed pastors are very serious students of The Word and clearly teach good orthodox theology outside of their reformed teaching. Calvinism is bizarre
Any theology where God is omnipotent "opens up the conclusion of double predestination". Is the non-Calvinist God simply unable to save those who are on their way to Hell?
@@johornbuckle5272 God, in His sovereign Will, allows for evil things to happen. Including Satan and the Fall of Man. It's exactly BECAUSE He is sovereign and in-control, is why I trust Him. He promises that evil will be punished, and that all those who believe in His Son will be saved - and I know that He WILL save people because He is Sovereign.
No, God doesn't save us because we are better than unsaved people. Calvinism teaches that we are saved by grace despite our natural condition. All arguments against it are asking why God doesn't give unsaved people a new heart, spiritual life, and ears to hear. Go listen to Vader reading Ephesians chapter 2. I frequently use the analogy that George Lucas created Vader and ordained the Empire to destroy Alderaan, but the moral of the story is to be a Jedi, not to serve the empire. Also, Geneva did not make John Calvin the legal authority. He taught scripture. Scripture is the authority. John was sorry that his state condemned Servetus, and he tried to save him. And about the ministries that take great effort to defend monergistic soteriology, Leighton Flowers regularly spends hours ranting about calvinism, while calvinists focus on many other topics.
That's not true. Calvinism focused on converting Christians as shown in this video. Scripture is the authority, and John Calvin's killing and forcing people to obey laws demonstrated that he doesn't understand it, how clear is that? By saying God randomly choosing some to be saved and some to be condemned isn't taught in the Scriptures.
Odd thing that people who believe they are elect would choose to kill someone who didnt believe like them. Shouldnt they have just assumed these people were not chosen amd therefore doomed to hell anyway? Why did they jave to kill them? Just that fact shows they do not possess the love of Yahushua
You think Calvinists want to kill people who don't think like them? Have you ever met a Christian who is a Calvinist before? That is horrible to say to someone
I'm not a calvinist, and I certainly don't believe in calvinism; nor the way calvinist explains God's sovereignty, or ideas of predestination and election. For one it's makes no since; how would a calvinist spout his beliefs about predestination and election, believing he himself is one of the predestined elected one's; sounds arrogant to me. It least the pentecostals who has another interpretation of scripture I don't agree with; says you have to have the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidents of speaking tongues; in order to know you've received Holy Spirit, and therefore have assurance of salvation and actually be saved. At least there's involves an external act of God, which it could be said, you know there one of the chosen, or predestined ones because God has gifted them his Holy Spirit and proved it by causing them to speak in tongues, that makes more since then calvinism to me, and I don't even agree with that. Plus the bible make it clear, that many people will think they have intimacy and relationship with Him; but not actually know Him, they'll only know of, or about Him, like the bible says in: Matthew 7:22-24 where he talks about many saying lord lord. Matthew 25:41 where he talks about goats and sheeps 1 Corinthians 13:1-25 where he talks about moving in all the giftings, but having no love for other's springing out of his love for you, therefore missing the point of why you're even saved. Plus the bible makes it clear knowing God through Jesus is eternal life: John 17:3 "3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know You, the only true [supreme and sovereign] God, and [in the same manner know] Jesus [as the] Christ whom You have sent." Knowing God is eternal life, not praying a prayer to go heaven; or trying to figure out who's chosen or predestined whatever that means; and we know we know Him through this simple action; the love you have for other's; like the bible says: 1st John 4:7-9 "7 Beloved, let us [unselfishly] love and seek the best for one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves [others] is born of God and knows God [through personal experience]. 8 The one who does not love has not become acquainted with God [does not and never did know Him], for God is love. [He is the originator of love, and it is an enduring attribute of His nature.] 9 By this the love of God was displayed in us, in that God has sent His [One and] only begotten Son [the One who is truly unique, the only One of His kind] into the world so that we might live through Him." Look I personally believe like the scripture state's in Matthew 24:14 "For many are called (invited, summoned), but few are chosen.” " I believe God has given me understanding on that verse, and it means, we're all called by God to believe on Christ without whom no one can be saved, God wants everyone to come unto everlasting life He wants all of us to heed the call and believe on Christ, that's why he sent Him so that the world through Him may be save. And I believe we're all chosen through Christ, meaning we're all chosen to become love, through personal and intimate relationship with God through Christ His son, not do love but become love so that it's not what we do; it becomes who we are, and out of who we are (love), we love other's So we're all chosen to walk in unselfish love toward one another; loving and seeing each other the way we see God loves and sees us. But here's where the (few) comes in, there are few that choose to become lov; or that are willing to become love, a lot of us refuse to let go of bitterness, hatred, selfishness, envy, Jealousy, ill will and so on, they close there hearts up and hold on to rights to have un-forgiveness all these thing's are contrary to love; In the Bible says if you don't love you don't know God; not you don't go to church, not you don't believe in calvinism, not you don't sing and pray to Him, it's say if you don't love you don't know Him. Look I believe God only truly choose and elected one person, that person being Jesus and through Him all of humanity was given the right to become His children, we're all chosen to believe on Jesus God's not calling all and choosing some, we're all called, we're all chosen, but the way you live your life reflects what you say you believe, if you know Him you'll love like Him. Because the fruit of your life is gonna be the expression of what you believe, you know them by there fruits not there doctrine, it's says if you love you know God, if you don't love you just don't know him, and goal of our instruction is love; anyone who loves is born of Him and knows Him, and knowing him is eternal life. The goats and the sheep parable had to do with love, one group loved and the other group didn't, one group saw the needs of others opened there heart toward them in unselfish love and made attempts to meet that need at there own expense, the other group saw the need closed there heart up in selfishness and refused, or had some excuse as to why they couldn't help when they probably really could have.
@@faithonfireministries Most of these "anti-Reformed theology" (I don't care for the label Calvinism, I prefer monergism or RT) channels like yours and Flowers and idol killer, you appeal to "fans" and followers who themselves often have very little understanding or depth of true RT and the history of the Remonstrance and Dort, confessions, etc. I would guess 99.9% of monergists don't even know of your channels so these channels just become echo chambers of emotionalism and eisegesis and screaming Jn 3:16 and 1 Jn 2:2 as if citing a verse settles it. Start actually getting into exegesis of texts, talk about Greek grammar and clauses and how the original authors used phrases like "hina pas ho pisteun" (Jn 3:16, not whosoever, but "all the believing ones"), get into substantial discussions. Have a good day, I am done. Feel free to delete my comment if you don't like it.
Calvinists constantly isolate a text out of context, sometimes even only part of one verse like pretty much whenever they cite John 15: 16 and only mention the part that suits their false view of election. I have it in comments and seen in videos from Calvinists a ton of times in which they simply say John 15: 16 proves Calvinism is true because Jesus said to the Apostles, "You didn't choose me, but I chose you" and they claim that is being chosen for salvation. But they chopped off the rest of the verse which explains what they were chosen for, which is not salvation but for service. Here is the whole verse, "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you." Preaching the Gospel to bear fruit (other Christians) is what they were chosen for and that fruit has remained 2000 years later with millions and millions of Christians all around the world that all started with Jesus and His Apostles he chose to go out and be the first to preach the Gospel. And Judas was chosen but was not saved and he failed to do the service evidenced by Acts 1: 25 when Matthias took Judas' place. It says he failed his ministry and apostleship. Here is that verse, "That he [Matthias] may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place." And though my above comment should have prompted you to respond with something relevant to my video, you still have not said one thing that is reference to my video. You just ranted about channels that call out Calvinism for what it is, a false religious system made by men. And since you brought it up, "whosoever believes" and "all the believing ones" shall not perish but have everlasting life is saying exactly the same thing and does not change the invitation to all to believe and be saved. And you can't get around the fact that the same exact sentiment is given in the prior verse, 15. "Pas" is Greek for everyone, and does not mean elect. So, everyone who believes will have eternal life. Calvinists say, not so fast! You must be elect or you can't truly believe and receive eternal life. They disregard the true Gospel and preach a false man-made gospel.
@@faithonfireministries let me recommend to you D.A. Carson, the Gospel of John, Pillar New Testament commentary series. read it and try to be humble and learn from arguably the top conservative new testament scholar in the world today. then you might understand why the best theologians in church history have been reformed since it's none other than the biblical teaching.
Why would you point me to a man, rather than to God's Word? My authority is Scripture. My teacher is the Holy Spirit. I don't rely on any man to give me their interpretation of God's Word, especially reformed theologians. Most of them don't believe in God's Word anyway and most of them spend an inordinate amount of energy trying to undermine Scripture. They usually only believe in man-made written systematic theologies and man-made written confessionals of faith and they try to make the Bible fit that. Trusting them for advice would be like a business man in America deciding to go to a university professor and ask for advice on business and economics. Sure, they have a doctorate and maybe even wrote some books and articles and are likely praised among like-minded university professors, but 9 out of 10 times they are morons living in an echo chamber. They are going to give you some garbage leftist liberal Marxist communist propaganda and say Capitalism is evil and doesn't work. They do this while enjoying living in America and the freedom it provides and enjoying the fruits and benefits of a society chock full of endless opportunities that was built upon Capitalism. They never voluntarily relocate to a communist country for some reason.
I honestly think Calvinism is going to be the reigning view soon just because of these types of Anti-Calvinist channels. Calvinist play way to much defense because the emotional responses of other Christian’s leading to constant hate on them constantly, and channels don’t seem to get past anger, hatred, strawman, silly phrases, and straying to far the opposite way. Hopefully there are more big discussions among pastors of varying denominations about this stuff though.
Calvinism is dying off again in case you haven't been paying attention. It is a very dangerous set of false doctrines. That is why they are holding so many conferences to defend Calvinism in recent years and using stealth methods of infiltrating pastor roles in Non-Calvinist churches trying to take them over and eventually weed out those who will not comply with the new direction. Calvinists leaders are struggling to keep people blind to the actual Scriptures. It is a cult that has surged and shrunk back over and over again over time, and it surged again in the early 2000's with the young restless and reformed movement but it is shrinking back again because it is not sustainable because it is not Biblical and it hits a high point and then real Christians start to raise the alarms within Christianity and teach people what Scripture actually says and how different that is from the reformed systematic theology books and confessionals.
@@faithonfireministries I hope the church continues to work through the topic, but from what I’ve seen the past couple years, it’s been on the up. Comments like “Real Christian’s” is pretty bonkers actually. (Had to edit a typo in my first comment). Ty for the reply.
I am not a Calvinist, but John Calvin is the figure head of the Huguenot Movement, Prophet Movement, etc. (Ignore his personal body count)Calvin must be judged by his followers. There have been civil wars in every Calvinist country including the US but none in Lutheran Scandinavia
That's because French Huguenot Christians who were influenced by Calvin were genocided by ROMAN CATHOLICS. How the heck can you blame those poor Huguenots who just wanted to be Protestant for being killed??
@@matthewmorrisdon5491 What about it? I didn't say one group was more violent than the other - I was just saying that it wasn't the Huguenots' fault for getting killed.
@@johnathanl8396 The only war of religion Sweden was part of was invading Germany. Huguenots were known to destroy Catholic churches. That is what Calvinism is about.
@@matthewmorrisdon5491 You sound like Turkey justifying their genocide of the Armenians - you're justifying a genocide of an entire faith-group because some within that faith group were violent. Calvin never wanted to start a violent revolution in France like the Munster rebellion was in Germany and 90% of Huguenots were only as violent as much as self defense was needed.
PLEASE READ THIS AND PLEASE BE MORE RESPECTFUL AND LOVING TO YOUR BROTHERS EVEN IF YOU THINK THEY ARE IN ERROR THIS IS NOT LOVE ITS HYPER CRITICAL AND IT SEEMS TO BE COMING FROM A PLACE OF HATRED Brother, respectfully may I ask you a few questions. Firstly, in many of your videos you call Calvinism (although Calvinism is more than the 5 points eg paedo baptism, covenant theology etc) false religion or heresy; heresy refers to beliefs that are salvific in nature. So am I correcting in saying you believe that if someone believes these doctrines truly they are unsaved. Secondly, I understand that you do not like these doctrines but I do think to set yourself up as the “bible believing” Christian and to see dissenters from your opinion as just those “calvinists” is arrogant; what you are saying is that 1/2 of the reformation whom adhered to the 5 solas were not bible believing when many of them were burned alive for doing so eg (Cranmer, Ridley, many French Huguenots, in fact that’s why the dreaded Calvin’s Institutes was written). Now I am not trying to infer simply because there was martyrs for a belief the belief was true, but these men were martyrs for believing that the bible was the final and only infallibility authority and so I think it is wrong for you to set yourself up as the bible believing Christian and dissenters are not. Because, respectfully, free grace was not a historically Christian view of sorteriology until the 20th century and so I think that you should be far more respectful as even if you were right (in which I actually think you are incredibly mistaken) you should show far more love and grace to your brothers unless your answer to the first question was yes as then you think all Calvinist’s are unsaved if they truly believe it. Thirdly, why are you misrepresenting Calvinism, to make videos on it you must be well researched; so why do you not present it faithfully?. To say that it’s just those whom God elected it doesn’t matter about belief etc and that people do not need to respond they just need to be chosen. Do you know this is a misrepresentation. Brother it’s dishonest. Calvinism affirms that one must believe in fact John Calvin called faith the foundation of true Christianity essentially. I do not want to make this any longer but from watching your videos, I am honestly trying to suggest something here not point score, I think that you should research the fall in Calvinistic soteriology because I think this may clear up your hatred for the doctrine of reprobation and election.
I am not misrepresenting Calvinism at all. I have studied it thoroughly, probably far more so than the average person attending a Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist church, and my teachings on it are based upon its doctrines and the application of said doctrines and systematic theology. I recognize that not all Calvinists fully believe everything that is Calvinism. There are 3 point and 4 point Calvinists and those who affiliate with Calvinism that don't even understand what they are following. That is why certain Calvinists speak up and say they don't believe that or I am misrepresenting them. I find that many Calvinists don't even adhere or practice all the doctrines of Calvinism, which is a good thing. They should ditch all of them. Calvinism is false and from Satan and like Satan it deceives and indoctrinates with subtly and cunning. It is very cult-like. If that bothers people to hear, then they are bothered by the truth.
1 Timothy 4:10. Apokatastasis. Calvinists: God can save all, but WONT. Arminians: God would save all, but CAN'T. Universal Restorationists: God CAN and WILL save EVERYONE.🌿🏆🌿
As a Traditional Christian, out of these 3 options? I'll take the middle with a major addition, it's up to you to decide plain and simple and that is Real Love! Thank You Jesus!
Many things we should all agree God can not do. God can not create a better God, God can not lie, God can not obey his word. Those do not make God less sovereign. God asked human to choose, that doesn't render God less sovereign. Human can do whatever they like, including rejecting the Grace, that doesn't not make God less powerful. God still in control of his final will, that is he desired all men to repent, no contradiction to his glory and scriptures.
@@swu11 This is something so simple to understand, yet it is a burden for some. At the end of the day, we need to pray that the Holy Spirit touch these lives that are badly indoctrinated.
All arguments against Calvinism lack substance, but this one especially lacks any sort of theological comprehension, and frankly a poor grasp of literature in general. The argument here can simply be dialed down to "I view this as mean, therefore it's NOT right", trying to save God from himself as if He needs saving or justification for what he does, nothing of theological substance here. This isn't a philosophy debate, our opinions have no basis to change the reasoning of God and words of the Bible.
Brian, your key issue is that you do not understand grace. A conditional or provisional gift is not a gift. God's grace. One needs to look no further than Ephesians 2: 8-9. First, what is grace? Is it a requirement from God? Is grace a debt that God somehow owes mankind? No, it is a gift as the Ephesians passage clearly says. Second, who is giving this gift? Well, the Bible clearly says grace is a gift of God. Third, when speaking of a gift, God's gift of grace, exactly who alone in the Ephesians chapter possesses the donative intent and ability to give the gift? Why God, of course. Fourth, then who alone possesses and controls all of the circumstances about how the gift, if given at all, is dispensed to whomever the gift is given? In other words, who decides whether the gift is given at all, when it is given, how it is given, etc? God is the sole controller about the gift. Fifth, is grace even a gift at all and if not, then what is it? The Bible says there is nothing we as lousy sinners can do to require God to give us this gift, nothing we can do to deserve it , work for it, wish for it, pay for it. And if we could perform any of these works, then it would not be a gift at all but a debt duly owed to us for services rendered. The understanding of grace is at the center of the biblical doctrine of God's sovereign election unto salvation. God decides who is saved and when and how they are saved. Once you understand this doctrine you will see it on practically every page of the Bible. And you will see the difference between God's grace and God's beneficence. "The rain falls on the just and the unjust". God's salvation, His grace, is not given to everyone by God's own choice. John 17: "I do not pray for the world". [Jesus praying]. God's own election. Why? We do not know, but the Bible clearly says it, although God tips His hand when the Bible speaks of God doing things based on His pleasure and His sovereign purposes. Romans 8 and 9. If a person claiming to be a Christian does not accept what the Bible says about grace, then that person must look themselves in the mirror and ask, "Just how self righteous was I before salvation"? Jonathan Edwards said that the only thing we bring to Christ in salvation is our sin which makes our salvation necessary. Was your salvation necessary? What did you bring to the table? Now do you care to boast about anything you may have brought? Quit playing the villain Brian. Get your theology straight.
If someone buys you car gift and says get your license and go and pick it up at the dealership, the car is still a gift. Grace is Jesus paying the penalty of our sin when we deserve death. But one has to believe and one may choose not to. Obviously you have to get your theology straight.
@@robertemard9452 Before you go pick up that Yugo at the dealership, let's put your fantasy to the test. The gift of salvation far surpasses that of a Lombarghini and is not inchoate. Jesus dies for those chosen by the Father. John 17. Before the foundation of the world. Eph 1:4. Rev17:8. The Holy Spirit regenerates the lost person (who has no ability to appraise spiritual things (1Cor 2:14)), changing the "want to" of the doomed sinner, giving that person through grace saving faith in Christ. The now redeemed sinner is now forever clothed in the righteousness of Christ (2Cor5:21). Once in Heaven, the saint walks the streets of gold forever. No earthly transportation needed. P.S. Note how I proved my comment using Holy Scripture rather than a lame illustration. If you have something to say about soteriology please going forward show love for your Lord's Sacred Word. Until you do so, you will have no theology at all, just the secular humanism of A/P.
@@robertemard9452 And just how, pray tell, does one believe? How righteous a Pharisee must one be to conjure up saving faith? How do you, a pig swine (just like me before salvation) all of a sudden become a man of faith when, as the Bible says, you cannot even comprehend spiritual things? An awaiting world wants to know why you persist in another gospel. Gal 1:6-10.
This is essentially a straw man argument. Calvin was a Reformer. He believed in the principles of sola Scriptura, sola gratia, sola fide, sola Christo. But in a sense, that is all irrelevant. Calvin himself has long since gone on to his eternal reward, and couldn't care less what Brian thinks about him. The real question is, what does the Bible teach about Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and Perseverance of the Saints? (Calvin, for that matter, was an expository preacher who also wrote commentaries on most of the books of the Bible. How many anti-Calvinists have done that?) A "Calvinist" could also just as easily argue that it is anti-Calvinists, like Brian, who are perverting the meaning of the Bible. They typically ignore practically everything that the Bible has to say about the sovereignty of God, His holiness, His moral law, His wrath against sin, the depravity of man, and the work of the Holy Spirit in salvation. They wrongly assume that an unregenerate sinner has a free will (nowhere in the Bible does it say any such thing), and in the process the concept of regeneration practically disappears. Evangelism becomes merely a matter of human persuasion, of salesmanship, and the life-changing work of the Holy Spirit practically disappears. I would strongly urge you to read through Romans and Ephesians, starting with the first verse in each book and read all the way through, carefully following the line of argument. I think you will see where Calvin got most of his theology.
@@ravissary79 Also, literally EVERYONE did it back then, that's just the nature of the medeival Church and State system back then. You're just like the people who said the Apostle Paul was evil because he didn't outright condemn slavery in the Epistle to Philemon
@@jordyE.. where's the lie. People are loding it over Brian over practically nothing. He hasn't hurt anyone, just jokes and honest opinions. People act DISGUSTING towards him over nothing. Look up how people who disagree with Calvin's theology were treated in Geneva. It wasn't pretty. No lies, real history. The truth is ugly on those issues.
Sounds so much like something a proud Calvinist would say. So sorry that we do not have your depth of understanding on the "deeper things of God." Pride has a way of blinding a person to the simplicity of the gospel. Unless you become like a child...
John Calvin did not want Servetus to be killed, but even if he did EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN lived under a Church+State system where breaking a Christian rule could mean your death. You're just like the people who said the Apostle Paul was evil because he didn't outright condemn slavery in the Epistle to Philemon
JohnNathan8396, I'm nothing like anybody who criticizes Apostle Paul. He is my favorite Apostle. So, your opinion is evidence of someone who doesn't know me or what I teach on this channel at all. Paul murdered Christians as a zealous Pharisee BEFORE he became a Christian and he was very hard on himself in the Scriptures about his past, calling himself the least of all the apostles because of his persecution of Christians and saying he is the chief of sinners. As far as the history books tell us, John Calvin went to his early death unapologetic and unrepentant about how he lived his life. Only God knows what is truly in the heart of a person before they die, but let me just take an educated guess here: I'm going to see Paul in heaven one day but I highly doubt I am going to see John Calvin there.
Okay, but I stand by the video and I am quite accustomed to naysaying comments. They don't bother me. No matter what position anyone takes publicly, especially with religion, there will always be those who make accusations that are designed to be more of a personal jab at them rather than any serious or substantive refutation of the arguments or facts they were discussing.
Calvinists speak like their father the adversary. What was the temptation in the wilderness but Satan trying to get the Lord to prove that he is the Son of God by his own works? Similarly, they want US to prove that we are really saved ie: (sons of God) by our own works just like the enemy tried to get the Lord to do. But like Jesus we say: IT IS WRITTEN! And we proclaim the true Gospel of Grace. We do not go out and produce Ishmaels. We are like Abraham who staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; he was fully persuaded that what God had promised, he was able also to perform.
Michael Servetus was a socinian who did not only deny Calvin's view on scripture or salvation, but the concept of the trinity itself. We know from private correspondence that Calvin advised Servetus against coming to Geneva as the standard treatment for blasphemy was execution by burning. This may mean little to you, but Calvin even advocated for execution by beheading for Servetus as it was a quicker and less painful method. In terms of those whom he was trying to convert, he was mostly dealing with Catholics and Anabaptists. Anabaptists at the time were sporadic in their doctrine due to their rejection of tradition and confessionalism so they could be marginally safe in their doctrine or wildly heretical to the point some believed they no longer required clothing. Calvin was far from perfect in his dealings, but if you were to only look for perfect men to follow or preach the gospel then the only one you have left is Christ himself and you should happily delete your channel because I'm sure that rules you out too.
I never suggested John Calvin is being called out for not being perfect? That is a gross mischaracterization of what was presented in this video. Apostle Paul wasn't perfect either, having persecuted and overseen the killing of Christians when he was a Pharisee, but he got saved and repented and never did that again, and he became a martyr himself for preaching the Gospel. John Calvin died of sickness, not as a martyr but he saw to the demise and martyrdom of others for sure, and then he died early, unrepentant and my guess is he was never saved at all, but just another typical legalistic religious elitist as delusional as one could ever be about their eternal fate.
If you think that you'll find anyone before the 16th century who did not advocate for the burning or execution of blasphemers, then you clearly know nothing of church history.
I know church history. Let me ask you a question. Which came first, "Thou shalt not murder?" or the church history you are referring to? It seems you want to give people a pass for murder and evil just because it was part of the culture and ignorance and power struggles over resources and control of people at the time. How sad.
@@faithonfireministriesLast time I checked, David, Samson, Solomon, Jacob, Moses, Joshua, and many many more all had people killed in order to purge the land of blasphemers. Furthermore, murder is totally distinct from corporal punishment. Servetus was a blasphemer against God and in his arrogance, NOT IGNORANCE, went to a place where he knew he would be put to death for blaspheming against God. Try again.
Okay, don't forget Saul the Pharisee. He was a religious zealot who murdered Christians before becoming the saved Apostle Paul. He repented and then only exhibited love towards everyone, even his persecutors unto death as a martyr. But, if you want to look at the other examples for justification of murdering people who don't share in your specific Calvinistic doctrines such as John Calvin and Servetus, you only give credibility to the warning I gave Christians in another recent video I did. I taught a message on the two religions of the world, Cain and Abel, about works religion vs grace and faith. I spoke about how Cain killed Abel and gave the reason for that, and explained how history has shown us that Cain kills Abel over and over and over again, and always will as history always repeats itself. Today, Calvinists in America are restrained by the law of our land and don't want to go to jail. Their evil rhetoric towards religious opponents shows us what is in their hearts. They emulate the god they have formed in their own minds, a god who loves some and hates all others and wants to expend his wrath on those whom he rejected. History proves that when Christians make the laws we outlaw murder and stealing and things of a sinful nature, but we don't demand submission to our faith and we lovingly preach the Gospel of Christ to the lost with patience. However, history proves that if Calvinists were somehow given control of the law and the courts, they would deem any other religious doctrines outside their own as heretical punishable by death and they would start mass round ups and systematically killing off those who refuse to submit to their authority and control because Calvinism is Cain and Bible Believing Christianity is Abel.
Calvinism almost destroyed my faith and my life. It drove me deep into despair and anxiety. It took me a year and a half to study my way out of it after being exposed to it in Bible College. Those were some of the hardest and darkest years of my life. There is no doubt in my mind that it is indeed a doctrine of demons and very destructive.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. I do these videos in hopes some people who are not yet in that same predicament but are starting down that path into Calvinism due to listening to some Calvinist pastor online or even at their local church, will hopefully see some of my videos and heed the warning and think twice about it and really test what they are hearing against Scripture. Thankfully, you were delivered out of that deception. Praise the Lord! Thanks for the comment. God bless you!
Things happen by fate
How in the world did “Calvinism” destroy your faith? Are you really blaming a doctrine for your own faithlessness and sin?
@@johnathanl8396When a smooth talking false teacher convinces you god has the character of satan! Something in you dies. Your 5-Point Calvinism is a cancer demanding that you be accepted as a Christian. I do not. I mark them, as we are told to expose false teachers preaching another gospel to what Paul preached.
True full blown Calvinists are not even saved let alone Christians.
Christians are Christians!
Calvinists are Calvinists!
Mormons are Mormons!
Calvinists believe god created all things, and controls all things, predetermined all things,
and made all things exactly the way they are.
... thus god also created evil.
therefore since Calvinists believe god created evil.
they are blaspheming against the holy spirit ... the only unforgivable sin.
Calvinists also believe the only people who will be saved have been predetermined by god.
and since Calvinists believe god predetermined who will be saved ... they have removed free will - the gift of god to humans, and removed Jesus from the equation.
since god (according to Calvinists) has already determined who will be saved ... (and who will not be saved) ... those who will be saved do not need Christ and those who will not be saved cannot come to christ.
thus Calvinists are not Christians.
@@johnathanl8396 I know what he’s talking about ….because in Calvinism you have to believe in a God that literally created only a few people to go to Heaven. And a whole lot of people who were literally created just to go to hell with no hope for redemption at all.
I go to a non-denominational church where the associate pastor was reformed in his theology. I only recently dove into the weeds of Calvinism, discovering the finer points, or should I say the 5 points and what that truly means. Needless to say, as a born-again Christian for 30+ years, i immediately saw it for the heresy that it is. It is as shocking to me that so many Christians are deceived by Calvinism as it is that so many are deceived by the word faith and nar movements! Both are outright false doctrines! Anyway, I discovered that our associate pastor was a covert calvinist. Meaning, he was planted by a reformed group in the city to slowly and methodically teach the false doctrines of Calvinism to our church so they could eventually absorb another congregation into the fold of reformed calvinists. When I realized what was happening, i began to pray him out. 3 weeks later, and he has unexpectedly and without explanation resigned his position and left the church and gone his way! Even the head pastor doesn't know why or where he has gone? I never communicated any of my findings or concerns to anyone except my wife and the Lord, as i did not want to interject myself and my personal convictions upon others without an open invitation to do so. It would seem however, that my prayers were not in vain and my concerns not without merit.
That is an amazing testimony about the power of prayer and authority in Christ. Amen
How refreshing that you took this course of action
@robbyckark6915,
Please tell me where did the children of the devil in John 8:44 came from?
@robbyclark6915, No elect can be deceived by whatever false doctrine..
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
(Matthew 24:24)
@@reynaldodavid2913Jo he was talking about the jews that didn't believe in his word and were seeking to destroy him.
John Calvin "Some are doomed from the womb"... Jesus "For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men's lives but to save them" (Luke 9:56 KJV)
...almost like he read The whole Bible or something. Strange concept in these parts.
Sovereignty= Heresy
@@matthewmorrisdon5491 Welcome to our discussion of Christianity, Mr. Open Theist. Even you are welcome.
" He decreed what He was to do, and now by His power executes what He decreed. Hence we maintain, by His providence, not Heaven and earth and inanimate creatures only but also the causels and wills of men are so governed as to move exactly in the course which He has destined" Calvin's Institutes; book 1, chptr 16, prgph 8.
Calvinists conflate God's sovereignty with absolute determinism (as described above). God's foreknowledge of all events does not make Him the causal agent of all events (see Jeremiah 19:5 for one of many examples)
In order to win a debate with Pelagius, Augustine pulled from his Gnostic Manicheanism & created "Absolute Determinism/Theistic Determinism/Meticulous Determinism" (take your pick) stating God controls all events at all times, even the actions & words spoken by men (very similar to Islam).
Calvin went from a lawyer to a sudo Christian theologian. Heard about Augustine's works & debates, which influenced his rewriting of the salvific work of God.
This is where the West Minster & LBC get "God decrees all things, whatsoever comes to pass..." Then it immediately contradicts itself with "Buuut your sin is on you Pal, you own that" (a paraphrase non-Calvinists use to show hypocrisy & irony).
I was presented before the foundation of the world not to be a Calvinist 😮
The issue is not if you were a Calvinist before the foundation of the world. The issue is were you elect unto salvation before the foundation of the world. If you were, then you are saved, yea, counted among the eternally redeemed. If you were not, then the news is not so pretty good.
God does save those who believe. But the key point is that He gives them the ability to believe. Eph2:8-9. The redeemed are granted repentance. They are appointed unto salvation like it says in Acts.
The Arminian says, "How dare God misbehave arbitrarily like that and choose some for salvation and not others or, better, everyone else? That's not fair! That violates the 14th Amendment Equal Protection Clause! LOL.
Aside: Much of this issue of Arminians not believing in biblical salvation is an American thing. Missionaries are full of stories of how peoples in places like Asia and Africa get the doctrines of grace. Give them a Bible and they teach themselves how to be Augustinians.
But all of us, Arminians included, are already living in a world where God (or some other guilty party--LOL) "arbitrarily" wills or causes a very large number of people to have a not so lovely human life on this planet. Ever watch an ad on television requesting your money to feed the starving in Africa or Asia? The ad shows images of the pitiful starving. Why are not those people sitting in their homes watching you and me starving? That's election. Not soteriological election, but election of some sort.
And we could think of a gillion such instances--war casualties, 911, stage 4 pancreatic cancer patients. We glibly say, "there but for the grace of God go I".
In a similar, not identical vein, all of us already, by default, deal with, and live in a world with, God's elective selective grace.
Have you ever resisted God's grace?
@wheeliewadethi,
Please tell me where did the children of the devil in John 8:44 came from?
@@DanielBShaw We all have, you included Jake. But God in His infinite love and mercy regenerates the lost person. A/Ps flap around and talk about how they had faith, how they turned from sin, etc. What stumps them to no end is that they then cannot answer the question, "How did you get there?" In other words, how did a lost swine sinner like you (and me) ever know that the truth of God was the truth of God?
Further, then how did a lost swine sinner like you (and me), since we were dead in trespasses and sins ever have the ability to repent of sin and throw ourselves upon the splendid mercies of Christ?
A/Ps cannot answer those questions without resorting to the use of the word "I". And the instant they do use the word "I" they are telling you that they saved themselves. Whether they are honest enough to admit that or not.
When A/P/Ts speak of making themselves saveable (making a choice, conjuring up faith, making a decision, etc) they are following original Roman Catholic doctrine about being "inherently righteous" in order to be saved. The hysterical part of that is that the A/P/Ts go a step further by not requiring the assistance of a priest. Thus, the A/P/T schema places the would be believer standing with both feet firmly planted in mid-air. A real hat trick. LOL.
This is the most best RUclips channel ever!🎉
That killed me man! That was so funny! Thanks for that, i really needed it. I enjoy your channel & yes i know calvinists & they would condemn the Vader skit. God Bless you
Went to a stealth Calvinist Church for 3 years without a clue what TULIP meant. Once I learned I QUICKLY escaped. Here's 5 things I learned looking back at this experience:
1. There was not a whole lot of joy among the people.
2. No communion for you unless you signed their man-made "covenant" membership dotted line.
3. Never once explained their most revered flower TULIP. Very stealth in this regard.
4. Lots of 50¢ words that still don't make sense.
5. Not a whole lotta emphasis on love.
A perfect bible verse that sums up Calvinists would be 2 Timothy 3:7 which states "Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." I put John Calvin up there with Joseph Smith.
Yep, that pretty much sums it up perfectly, especially that particular Bible verse. Well said. God bless you!
You should collaborate with Warren Magrew Idol Killer on funny memes/videos on the Absurdity of Calvinism, I think you both can come up with a video that is Not only funny but effective In hitting home the Absurdity of Calvinism.
Personally John Calvin is NOT in my opinion the driving force of Calvinism today but Reformed Apologetics that was Influenced by Cornelius Van Til and combined with the teaching of Theology Proper (Greek Philosophy, Neoplatonism, Doctrine of God, Perfect Being Theology)is the two HEADED Monster of Calvinism Today.
"The fact that charismatics have to work so hard to defend their doctrine of the spiritual gifts, is proof that they aren't in operation today." Justin Peters. " The fact that calvinists have to work so hard to convince other Christians that Calvinism is biblical, is proof that it's not. " Brian and myself, and the vast majority of Bible believing Christians.
Amen!
Amén!
Charismatics are far worse than calvinists. The world is not looking at calvinists thinking they are irresponsibly delusional
@@johornbuckle5272 No Calvinism just portrays a picture of God as a tyrannical monster who literally went to all the trouble of creating everything and everyone just so He can cast the vast majority of His creation into a flaming pit of eternal suffering and damnation called hell because He chose them for that end. While only a small,select, chosen,few get to spend eternity in paradise with God because He decided before the foundations of the world that they would be saved and literally everyone else would be damned for eternity. Btw, there’s absolutely nothing you or I can do to alter our own nor anyone else’s eternal fate. It’s simply decided by God at His own discretion and choosing. Enjoy hell everyone! Unless you’re one of the elect few? You just never know? Yeah, nothing wrong with that huh?
@@robbyclark6915 There are videos (which you can look up) wherein Christopher Hitchens and Madalyn Murray O'Hair almost word for word agree with your rejection of the doctrines of grace.
Surely, following a doctrine named after a murderer is a red flag
Calvin didn't murder anyone, he didn't want Servetus to be killed.
Why don't you do a quick Google search before making statements that at best make you look ignorant or at worst imply that you're a liar.@@johnathanl8396
@@johnathanl8396He did but he preferred beheading to burning as if that is supposed to absolve him.
@@williamjarrell8475 Oh yeah Calvin wanted Servetus to die so bad that Calvin actively told Servetus to STAY AWAY FROM GENEVA with intent to stop him from being executed.
@@johnathanl8396Does it occur to you that it could have been a warning not an expression of concern.
I left a Calvinistic church just recently.
What a funny way to present a serious message. Thank you! Your insights on this topic are refreshing and filled with common sense. Thank you!!
Great comment. Thanks. I sincerely appreciate when someone gets how humor can educate and reveal truth and also illustrate absurdity and dangerous thinking. God bless you!
@@faithonfireministries Brian, I have a very good question for you, and I want you to think about this. When is the believer given salvation and eternal life? Do we have it now or will it be given to us at the appearing of our Savior, Yahushua?
@@Scripturesdude6361 Brian, I will help you on this one. The answer is both and at all times in between. I will let you easily look up the Bible support.
Calvinists seem to be unconcerned about a dying world and more concerned about converting Christians. Now who would be behind that? Thank you for shining the light on this basic truth.
Not true at all. One of the greatest evangelists that the world has ever seen was Rev. George Whitefield who was a Calvinist. My Church is calvinist and is extremely evangelistic. Also its hypocritical for you to say that when you should be trying to save a dying world rather than making a stupid comment!
What an absence of knowledge of church history you nakedly demonstrate. In Calvin's times his disciples spread the gospel to Brazil no less! Yes, that Brazil. Very remarkable work since this was not long after Columbus discovered the New World.
In Europe their missionary zeal left its marks all the way into the British Isles, Scandinavia, etc. And you should already know that the folks on the Mayflower and the Puritans believed in the Calvinist version of the doctrines of grace. Spoiler alert: Like this had much to do with the founding of our nation.
Please learn church history. Also, learn the Great Commission. It applies to all who name the name of our dear Lord. Why? We are commanded to spread the Word.
You don't have to be a Calvinist to have a burden for the lost. Remember that our Lord came to seek and to save that which was lost.
@@johnathanl8396 I always hear Calvinists claim that George Whitefield was such a great evangelist. But that doesn't make it true.
A lot of Calvinist trolls are commenting on this channel, saying they too preach the good news. But the UNIQUE CLAIMS of Calvinism are terrible and are NOT good news!
Oh yes! I get Calvinist trolls here unfortunately but mostly it is Christians who make great comments, some who agree with me and some who disagree with me on this or that. It's all good. I love the iron sharpens iron dynamic of this comments section.
Always enjoy your videos Brian and your courage to call out this "another gospel". Another thought I had this morning is that Calvinists seem to be experts in the area of gaslighting. I've noticed that whenever they are confronted with an obvious conclusion that their doctrine leads to, they ALWAYS either gaslight you or tell you that you do not understand Calvinism.
A simple example: You tell a Calvinist that their doctrine makes God unfair by condemning a person as soon as he comes out of the womb and they will spin it or tell you that you don't understand Calvinism. They will NEVER ADMIT this obvious conclusion that their god is unfair and a respecter of persons, or use their favorite "get out of a dilemma card" by quoting Romans 9:20 "But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God?" In other words, we need to check out our brain anytime Calvinist cognitive dissonance comes into play.
Yes, you got that right. Very good observations. God bless you!
I like what I’m hearing. I’ve committed so many sins I’ve been living in terror since reading my Bible. I believe totally in Jesus as my Lord and Saviour . God bless you ❤❤❤
People need to understand the full story of Anakin Skywalker to Darth Vader. It is a beautiful story.
@mochamarie9741 How can it be a beautiful story, the chancellor told the story of darth Plagueis the wise and poor Anikin was hooked!
Good news for Calvinists. You are saved. Bad news for Calvinists. You weren't picked sucker.
Confirmed, another FOF darth Vader edition on Father’s Day haha. Looking forward to it and more videos of Brian exhorting the one and only true gospel of Christ, along the way.
I am glad you made a clear distinction between Christianity and Calvinism !
Are Calvinists not Christians? So you're saying they're destined for Hell?
Calvanism-"utter nonsense"❤
Truth Indeed from England ❤❤
Why are Calvinist so angry and arrogant? I had one say yesterday that my friend is probably not saved because he said “that goofy sinners prayer”. His words not mine. I didn’t know Calvinist were privy to the hearts of men and their relationships with the Father.
UNSAVED CALVINISTS: "Faith doesn't save because believing on Jesus is a work."
Then they said to Jesus, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?" Jesus answered them, "This is the Work of God: That you believe on Him whom He has sent." (John 6:28-29)
They only need to read Romans 3: 26-28 to realize that believing in Christ is NOT a work but is faith, and faith is never a work according to God's Word.
@@faithonfireministries Now to one who works, his wages are not reckoned as of grace but as his due. But to one who DOES NOT WORK, but BELIEVES on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is counted as righteousness. So also David describes the blessedness of the man to whom God reckons righteousness WITHOUT WORKS: "Blessed are those whose sins are forgiven [PAST sins], and whose sins are covered [PRESENT sins]; blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin. [FUTURE sins]" (Romans 4:4-8)
Paul said "to one who DOES NOT WORK, but BELIEVES." That Paul is saying believing is not a work is crystal clear. (Words in brackets are my own explanations.)
Jesus was being sarcastic with the Pharisees in John 6, and Calvinists are essentially modern-day Pharisees. The Lord apparently has a sense of humour.
@freakylocz14 ,
Please tell me where did the children of the devil in John 8:44 came from?
I never heard a Calvinist say: faith is work...
@@reynaldodavid2913Jo The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come." And let him who hears say, "Come." And let him who is thirsty come. And whoever ➡️WILLS⬅️ let him take the water of life ➡️FREELY⬅️. (Revelation 22:17)
It was great!
Hopefully we will see one day "The Gospel according to Darrh Vader."
I'd like your take on the Flowers White debate!
The debate topic was, does John 6: 44 support unconditional election. I think James White forgot that. The moment Flowers asked him about infants going to hell due to unconditional election and James White refused to answer that and got very offended he even brought it up, boom! The debate was over and Flowers won, proving that even diehard Calvinists like James White are not willing to defend the false ideology of unconditional election when the implications of it are explored. Sure, with adults Calvinists will pronounce it far and wide, but with children they shrink back and seem offended by their own doctrine.
@@faithonfireministries The debate was on John 6 and White was NOT in the wrong for not wanting to talk about the complex issue of infant salvation in the middle of a debate about that text.
You're projecting a singular belief on Calvinists that doesn't exist, for example Todd Friel has a different view of Infant's salvation than James White. No Reformed confession speaks to the issue of infant salvation, so acting like us Calvinists "avoid the topic" is ridiculous.
Calvanism is an anxiety filled life, and runs contrary to the gospel of grace to save sinners ❤It is indeed a doctrine of demons!
You were laughing at Darth Vader however the man (James Earl Jones) behind that voice died earlier this month most likely unsaved.
can you please do a video on spencer smith. he says that a change life is proof that your saved, isn't this what Charles Spurgeon said? I'm confused. ty so much....
I've covered Spencer Smith before. I've joked that the Gospel according to Spencer Smith is to believes on Jesus and hate whatever Spencer hates this week, and then you will be saved, but if you don't hate what he hates then you are a heathen reprobate. Actually, I believe he is a stealth Calvinist. He has too many red flags, such as affirming Total Depravity, the T in TULIP, on his website statement of faith. He often lifts up other Calvinists as great Godly men to admire such as Spurgeon, MacArthur, and others. I'm sure I'll end up doing another video on Spencer eventually. I have thought of doing some so many times but the idea comes and goes and I don't end up doing that particular video about him simply because I don't have the time to make a lot of videos. I try to get one done each week. Thanks for the comment. God bless you!
I'm just learning and growing in Christ, but to me he idolizes Charles spurgeon he has all kinds of stuff in his shop with c .s. on them. Even coffee cups. Not very smart but i call that idolizing, love in Christ.
USMC? My brother is USMC. Thanks for serving our country. SEMPER FI!
Good vid on Calvinsm. I though the DV video was cool 😊😊❤❤. God created us in his image. He gave us the ability to have a sense of humor and to be creative.
Not to be political. However you forgot to mention how majority of the South were Calvinists. That was NonCalvinists such as John Wesley, Sir William Wilburforce that led the fight for Abolitionism. The Dutch Afrikaners were who initiated Apartheid.
Good eye! I was not in the USMC, but my dad was. That is his picture under his USMC Sword on the wall. He is wearing the red Marine Corps League uniform. He went on to be with the Lord in 2019. On the other matter, I'm sure there were plenty of Calvinists then and still now that stand for very good causes. However, their main distinctive doctrines do not comply with God's Word and far too often they do lead to indifference or even hatred against those who do not follow Calvinism, because it creates an arrogant attitude of religious elitism.
There is nothing in the theologies of Wesley or Calvin that predisposes people to be for or against slavery. There were plenty of non-Calvinist racists and plenty of Calvinist racists.
@@johnathanl8396 I am looking at the bigger picture, first of all. I am certain there were good Calvinists that fought against slavery. And sure, unfortunately, I am sure there were Non-Calvinist proponents of slavery. However, looking at the bigger picture, it wasn't Calvinist leaders that were leading the charge against slavery. Jonathan Edwards was a big time proponent of Slavery and he was a prominent Calvinist Minister. The idea of theological determinism (or God's Sovereignty) was used to justify slavery.
@@angeliquaserenity5009 You understand that atheist liberals say that Christianity and the Bible (in general) were used supported slavery in the 19th century? You're literally doing the exact same thing except turning it on your theological opponent.
@@johnathanl8396 Of course. I don't believe the Bible supports or justifies slavery. The Underground Railroad and the Abolitionist movement used the Bible as justification for Abolitionism. We would not need the Slaver's Bible if the Bible supported slavery. That of course is a red herring issue in light of the point(s) that I am making, however. I am trying to point out that the specific theology of Calvinism is basically a bus stop for a theological justification of predetermined slavery.
In Calvinism, salvation is exclusive, and the number fixed.
Death & sin were destroyed ONLY for their pre-chosen elect.
Not 1 person may be added to it.
For all things are fixed & predetermined by God.
Although they do celebrate his birthday every year, I'm shocked Calvinists don't label John Calvin a modern-day prophet!
John Calvin: “No one can disprove the doctrine I have expounded except he who pretends to be wiser than the Spirit of God.” (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, p.161)
"Not 1 person may be added to it.
For all things are fixed & predetermined by God. "
does God know the future or not?
In this one sense at least it does not matter whether one believes in A/P or Calvinism: The same number of people and the same people by name go to Heaven, and the same number of people and the same people by name go to Hell.
So what's the difference? The difference is that only Calvinism (the proper term is Augustinianism) tells us how and why that is so based on the Bible. You can squawk, flap around, and make noise all you want, but the doctrines of grace, not even thought up by Calvin in the first place (for crying out loud) are practically on every page of scripture.
@@Gablesman888 shhhhh, you'll hurt their feelings and their delusion will be shattered 😂
Messianic Judaism is far more intellectual then Calvinism.
what were you smoking?
Undergirding Calvinism is St. Augustine the Roman Catholic. Some have said Calvinism is Roman Catholicism Lite for Protestants.
Many pastors believe in Calvinism and are misleading many away from Christ GOD DOES NOT predestined EVIL FOR HIS GORLY
So God isn't truly in control? Evil just happens and God is surprised by it? Then He isn't really God...
@@johnathanl8396 So as god you just judged God himself, it seems you are just as powerful as God if not more powerful to declare he is not God
@@johngraves9237 I believe in God! I am a Christian! What I was trying to say was that God is truly in control, therefore everything (even evil) happens under His sovereign will. Which is how we can trust Him - because He is indeed in control.
Spot on brother
Good job!!!****
Well I haven't seen a Hollywood movie in decades and same for television, and I avoided looking at this video for three weeks because I thought the premise in the title somewhat absurd, but I am here laughing like mad at the excerpt you played. What a scream. But it seems not everyone found it funny. One has to ask whether it's the case that people have lost their sense of humour as well as their common sense.
Can u explain differences between Sovereign grace and Calvinism i wanna kno to avoid both i dont reallky kno what neither are
God is sovereign but Calvinists distort the meaning of that word and apply it to God to mean that God meticulously determined from before time began everything that anybody thinks or does and all that happens. Calvinists forget all about Satan and his influence over the world. So, when you hear someone say "sovereign grace" or "sovereign saving grace" that sounds really Christian-like and Biblical almost, but it is not. Real Christians don't use that phrase. It is a Calvinist phrase and code language used to fool the unsuspecting Christian and draw them in further for more Calvinistic teaching and indoctrination. What they really mean by that is God already chose the ones who will be saved before time began. That is the U in TULIP, Unconditional Election. That also means by default that God chose everyone else for reprobation and damnation and all of it is set in stone. So, in a nutshell, when you hear the phrase "sovereign grace" just remember that is Calvinism you are hearing.
Lovit, thanks.
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I’ve never seen that video! I have now! It is hilarious !!
Very good video. Love this. Keep pressing forward with the simple truth of the Gospel.
Amen! Thanks brother! I'll keep on pressing on! God bless you!
Darth Vader actually repents in the series!!! He actually repairs his father son relationship and ends the Evil Empire before death. It is a beautiful tool to use. Hopefully, one day, Jesus Christ can be the Center of Star Wars versus the Pantheist New Age View. But, it also shows a Creator and Evil exists, and we can do something about evil, and how temptations snares us. Seriously, Star Wars covers all of it. We gotta reach our youth now!!! Our kids!! Learn their language. A Gospel according to Darth Vader could do that.
I’ll take a joke any day over someone actually trying to teach me that the “hard truth” (that only the super rugged and tough can handle 🙄) is that God authors all evil in this world. Guess I’m not super tough to handle those clever “hard truths”. 🤷🏻♀️
Lets pause from "Calvanism Bashing" for a moment. What does 'Brian' believe? I mean, specifically because I don't know what he believes, only that he loaves Calvinism
This was good Brian!! Keep it coming!
No it wasn't, it was embarassing
@@johnathanl8396 why are you even on here?
@@Maximum-One7 To deflate the echochamber. You can't call a huge mass of Bible-loving, conservative Christians "evil" without getting backlash
@@Maximum-One7 I think he does not want people to one day hear "Depart from me you cursed, I never knew you." People cannot "know" Jesus based on false pretenses. (Ex: Pharisees and Sadducees).
John Calvin was alive during the Black Plague, and when he was requested to go back to Geneva, where it was safer. He refused and stayed with his church in the plague hot spot.
Calvin did in some ways deny himself and did shorten his life by his service for others,but when it came to those who disagreed with him,HE WAS ANYTHING BUT CHRISTLIKE!
@Steve-og4ii I am careful not to be critical of Christians of the past. We do not have all the details. I am black, and I constantly have to rebuke other black Christians who say white slave masters were not Christian. It is easy to talk with our modern sensibilities and safeties that our generation was blessed with.
@@rogervincent2092 thank you for your kind and thoughtful reply ,brother. It's hard to be truthful without being overly critical at times. But in the case of Jihn Calvin,there us abundant and undeniable evidence of his treatment of those who disagreed with his theology. Confiscation of property, imprisonment, fines,,banishment and even death was the experience of those under under Calvin's Geneva. This was official, documented enforcement. Calvin and other Reformers yoked with government officials in their persecution of other Christians. A very sad commentary on the condition of the official church of that time. It must be remembered that Calvin simply mirrored Augustin, who likewise persecuted his opposition when they could not be otherwise persuaded. God bless you brother 🙏
@Steve-og4ii I understand, but different time different place, different culture, different rules, different sensibilities.
@@rogervincent2092 but,brother, is our Christian character, Christ - likeness,and obedience to the teachings of the Scriptures, to be subjected to the culture of our times?!?,. Calvin's treatment of other true Christians is absolutely inexcusable ,and seriously calls into question the reality of his conversion! In fact,his testimony is vague at best,mostly a revised version of his former Catholic beliefs.. to be honest I'm rather surprised that you would, in any way defend his conduct, especially using worldly standards and reasoning. Perhaos,Perhaps, such reasoning that could open the door to a repeat of such conduct his devoted followers of today, should lke conditions present themselves. In summary, are we as Christians, merely to be the product of our times and circumstances,?!?
As a side note, you might want to look at the Christianization of Alaska in the late 19th Century. The big push was to Christianize the Eskimo, Aleut, and other indigenous tribes. Guess what! They were already Christian, being Christianized by Russian Missionaries like St. Herman of Alaska. Of special interest are St. Peter the Aleut and St. Olga the Aleut. Alaska proves your point!!!
The interesting thing is that Vader in Afrikaans (exact same spelling) means Father in English. Dark Vader then translated means Dark Father...
God in his sovereignty caused them to make that Darth Vader skit.
Perhaps we can make a video where Darth Vader preaches Calvinism and chokes those the question it. Just like Calvin himself. In fact when his helmet comes off, its a wrinkly old Calvin himself! Or better yet John MacArthur.
But the idea that you can never lose your salvation comes from Calvin as well and was not taught prior to him.
Good idea. I love it. However, I will disagree with you on that last point. Perseverance of the Saints (POTS) is deceptively tight as eternal security, and the same as OSAS. It is not. 0SAS is biblical and I have videos going through the Scriptures on that. POTS offers no eternal security because it’s only valid in their doctrine for the elect which is already unbiblical but furthermore, one must live out their life in good works and faithfulness to have proven oneself was truly saved and one of the elect. That is what John Calvin taught and there isn’t any eternal security, in that.
Please tell me where did the children of the devil in John 8:44 came from?
Jesus is not referring to them as literally having Satan as their father nor that they are literally children of Satan, but because the are unbelievers who are liars like Satan who is the father of lies, and that fact is established in Genesis 3 in the garden. Those corrupt Jewish religious leaders were emulating Satan by being liars. It is like saying a biologist today is like their father Aristotle because Aristotle is known as the father of biology. Satan has no real children. People are not created in the image of Satan. All people are created in the image of God. However, an unbeliever who comes to faith in Jesus Christ becomes saved by the gift of God's grace, and at that moment they transferred from death into life or metaphorically speaking from darkness into the light, a "child of Satan" into a "child of God." Child of God or sons of God is a Biblical metaphor for believer, just as in Matthew 25 sheep vs goats in judgement are metaphors, sheep for believers and goats for unbelievers.
@@faithonfireministriesAre you implying that Jesus is lying when he told them, you are of your father the devil?
@@faithonfireministries,
After all, you are not a believer of Jesus because you do not believe what Jesus said...
Is Jesus lying? That is your question to me? You are so ridiculous and can't discern between facts and metaphors. You might as well ask if Jesus is lying to us if we are not literally sheep. There is no way to have a reasonable intelligent conversation with a person like you.
@@faithonfireministries, why not prove me wrong with a scripture if I am wrong, First you concluded that children of the devil is a metaphor without evidence, 2nd it is not only in John 8:44 that Jesus speaks of children of the devil. In the parable of Wheat and Tares, Jesus even revealed that there are only two(2) kinds of people in the world. The children of God who are predestined to be saved and the children of the devil that are predestined to be burned in fire..
Scripture is very clear and explicit... Do not kill!!! It doesn't say do not kill unless he or she disagrees with you. Furthermore, Jesus said Love your enemies, something Jean calvin disagreed.
Despite what this video claims, John Calvin did NOT want Servetus to be killed in Geneva. And, even if he did, all heretics were given the death penalty back then, that's just the nature of Church and State back then (literally every group was doing it!). And if killing is wrong in itself, why is ancient Israel told to kill many groups of people and enemies?
Perhaps you are obliquely referring to the Michael Servetus case. If so, you are in way over your head. You and I had as much to do with the death of Michael Servetus as John Calvin did. Read up on it. Learn church history.
@@Gablesman888 How so let me hear?
So you oppose capital punishment?
@@paulbarrera5026 ?
On the original movie Darth Vader is dubbed, he did not say that 😂😂😂. Christ died for All. Not for the elect
Every page of scripture demonstrate Gods sovereignty over human will.
Calvinism vs Scripture is the real issue. Scripture should be our sole authority, not reformed systematic theology books and confessionals. Calvinists lie about God and God's Word to push false presuppositions into Scripture that are Satanically inspired pagan doctrines that hijacked and redefined certain Bible terms. Some Calvinists don't realize what they are doing and are sincere about their beliefs, but they are still wrong. That is how deception works. The ones being deceived often don't realize it unless they set aside their presuppositions that were taught to them and plant themselves firmly in the Word of God alone for quite some time and trust the Holy Spirit to lead them into Truth, just as Jesus Christ said He would, the Holy Spirit being called the Spirit of Truth. Sadly, most Calvinists would rather follow and trust the words of men they admire than to even believe God's Word.
@@faithonfireministries but the question is what kind of scripture? English translation or Greek derivative? That’s where the non-Calvinist gets tripped up.
@@faithonfireministries I wouldn't believe in Calvinist soteriology if it wasn't for Scripture's testimony to it. You don't have a problem with systematic theology books, you have a problem with the Bible.
My mom died of cancer so it is heresy to say a loving God is sovereign.
My father died of brain cancer and I would never be so unbelieving in God as to blaspheme Him by saying He is not sovereign. Yes, death and cancer hurt. But a sovereign God willed a curse upon this world because of Adam's original sin. Yet at the same time He provided a way for salvation from the curse. Even Brian believes that. So should you.
@@Gablesman888 I used to be Baptist and a Calvinist, God can't do evil and giving someone cancer is evil for no reason as I believed. I now see that all people are under the judgment of the Torah for living. However, most things happen by fate as the divine left control of this world do to sin.
based video
With all your respect, brother and sisters im a Calvinist choosing from God no because I’m better than everybody because of his mercy on me in my response to that is to preach other people to come to God I’m just a simple man just like you trying to reach other people to be safe in the no parish After all, I’m just a beggar tell hanother beggar, where I found bread
with all due respect this man is my husband up there abellopez4112 he has let this brain washing destroy our family our marriage even now to the point financially he doesn’t even fork a dime out to help his wife with any bills he has hoarded money sent it to others drinks from time to time when i knew he had a religious spirit on him he has laughed at times but we all see the change i pray for his soul i feel like i am fighting satan for his soul back he is so confused abt. christianity and he is destroying his own family with this divorce is immenent so be leary of what yall listening to on you tube
C.S. Lewis coined the term 'chronological snobbery'
Satan is only the Accuser, there is no villian.
Darth Vader does not kill the unbeliever though. He just gives him a taste of death to wake him up. God does that too in many ways to us today. Your Welcome.
I wonder if the laws were different a Justin Peter's or a John MacArthur would murder pentecostals. They have such disdain for real believers. I watched JP have glee talking tongues talkers out of the gift
I answered this concept and question in detail, giving both a Biblical and historical answer to it in this recent video: ruclips.net/video/vXj15Xu2BR8/видео.html I did not mention anybody in particular in that video, but I believe it is a very insightful teaching.
That's horrendous and evil that you would put those intentions on MacArthur and Peters. What has gotten in you anti-Calvinists heads that Calvinists are just so evil?
Calvin himself tried to tell Servetus to NOT GO TO GENEVA because Calvin knew the Genevan government would have executed Servetus. That doesn't sound murderous to me.
Calvinists', when quoting Romans 8:30..."and those whom he predestined he also called"...YOU need to go back to verse 29, "For those whom he FOREKNEW he also predestined to be conformed..." In other words, God called us because he already knew we would believe so he predestined us to be the image of his Son and do good works. Verse 29 seems to be left out when quoting Romans 8:30 regarding Calvinist's? God Bless
Im a Born-again Reformed Baptist church and believe in the doctrine of Calvinism hard 5 points. I don't force or try to convince anyone of this. I do believe you must be Born-again and confess with your mouth Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in this name. Please 🙏 educate yourself.
God bless you brother. And watch out for the Arminian/Provisionist arrows. LOL.
It was Billy Graham who said that getting into the ring with skeptics, backslidden, and outright non-believers and attempting to answer their questions about Jesus sharpens the mind and opens the heart to the plight of sinners looking for answers.
I'm a born-again Christian who can't find one person who directs my church's teaching other than Jesus.
@@drjcw Same here. Welcome to the fellowship of the saints.
Love you brother-❤former Calvanist, but, we have fellowship in Christ
Matthew, I'm educated and don't agree with you on Calvinism. My point would be I'm educated and choose to reject Calvinism; your point is God predetermined me to reject your Calvinism. So I couldn't change my mind unless God irresistibly causes me to. At 72 years old God is running out of time if He chooses to change me. So I couldn't change even if I wanted to.
Amen
A few more funny videos, keep them coming, not that there is ever anything to run out of, talking about with these heretic Calvinist/lordshippers, but funny how a video like that brings them out to condemn you. (Critical, fruit inspectors)
Maybe they see it as a sin, as they are so perfect and would never do anything like that.
But scripture is clear, let them be accursed.
I wouldn't have guessed you were 50
Yep, nailed it! At least for one more month. I'm 51 in April.
Calvinisim is a lie from the pits of hell. With that said, we can not take predestination out of God's word. It must be taught correctly, and Calvinisim is a dangerous lie.
True. Christians are predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ. Non-Christians aren't.
@@drjcw Isn't that Calvinism?
What's your view on predestination?
@johnathanl8396 I believe in both. Both are clearly in God's word. Predestination and free-will, or humans making choices. I can give you many scriptures. I don't put God Almighty in a box.
@@ironleatherwood Why is Calvinism "a lie from the pit of hell" then"? Us Calvinists don't deny that all humans need to make a conscience choice to love and honor God (as Scripture calls us to do), but we also don't deny that God is the key actor in getting us to that point (which Scripture also affirms).
The essence of Calvinism is this.....God saves some individuals by specifically choosing them from among the rest of humanity that He has created. All of those who are not elect spend eternity in unrelenting torture and this was determined before they were ever born. This has been decreed and believed by the calvinists. The God of their creation they call a God of Love.
The actions and will of God have redefined the word Love. So that the individual who loves is an ornery, cruel, nasty person who enjoys watching people and animals suffer. Compare this individual with the person of Christ. If you don't see the difference, you might be a calvinist.
Well said!
My observation with the Calvinist clan is that they "intellectualize" the gospel and have books upon books backing every jot and tittle of their twisted view of scripture. Their philosophical approach complicates the simple gospel that even children should be able to understand. In order to understand their doctrine, it would take years and years of leader John Calvin study. Did God really make it that complicated???
Reminds me of Jesus' warning in Matthew 23:13 where he states "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in." I believe that if anyone is truly saved in a Calvinist church it happened prior to getting sucked into Calvinism since there is no biblical gospel in Calvinism (but only election or "lucky lottery winners").
Their high mindedness "systematic theology" and 50¢ words (use to be 25¢ words prior to the recent inflation) corrupt the simple gospel that Jesus loves you, died for your sins, and is offering you the free gift of salvation if you so choose. Just like Adam and Eve, God gave them a choice.
I love Calvinist people. I just can't see God as someone who created the majority of people so he could hate them from the get-go out of the womb and throw them into hell (for his glory of course) with no choice whatsoever.
You love Calvinists so much that you project that they are Pharisees and "high minded" and actively twist Scripture. You have the same problem you say that Calvinists have - because you believe in an omnipotent God then that means you believe that God 100% KNOWS AND HAS THE ABILITY TO INTERVENE IF SOMEONE IS ON THEIR WAY TO HELL. Us Calvinists and you non-calvinists have the same problem of answering for that truth. The only difference is Calvinists can back up their interpretation with Scripture and you can not.
Great again. Calvin burnt people on the steak because they did not agree with his interpretation. I hate biblical philosophy, can't stand it. More on if there is something right about Calvinism, it is from the bible, not John Calvin.
Thanks
In Christ, Pastor Joel.
Everyone says that their opponents pervert the Bible. I started the phase, "If you are not under the Torah, you are his Grace the pope.
John 3:16 neither prove nor disprove Calvin. "Whosoever" is equally fate as election as free will.
Many of you are in way over your head on the Michael Servetus case. Calvin complained repeatedly about Servetus' heresies. Ironically, these are heresies today proclaimed by the A/P/T crowd such as denial of original sin and various Trinity issues.
Calvin did neither prosecute nor convict Servetus of heresy. That was the work of the Genevan Council which also sentenced Servetus to death.
Where Calvin's name comes into the story and where the "goats" start slandering Calvin is that it was Calvin who suggested to the Council that Servetus be beheaded instead of burnt at the stake which was what the law mandated. In other words, the goats must know the history here and know that Servetus was condemned to die without Calvin's involvement at all. Now I suppose you can stay up all night musing over which one of those punishments is the lesser, but Calvin was trying to give the guy a break in a situation that Calvin had no control over.
Hope you notice that heresies, like the ones that some "Christians" espouse today nakedly, were taken seriously back then. That was a different time indeed. Much like the times of Moses and the children of Israel as they wandered in the wilderness.
This is a much longer story and I wish there were better RUclips videos on it. I have reached my self imposed blog limit since I neither write windy blogs nor read those of others.
Green wood was John Calvin's favorite wood to use.
@user-qs2hn1xo3l Phew back atcha. Certainly limited atonement can be biblically proven through Bible verse exegesis. But what if you could see that the Arminian/Provisionist atonement schema was impossible? I mean impossible like you cannot get there from here impossible? Let's use both Bible passages and Bible logic.
First, Brian himself in this video most definitely believes in limited atonement. Otherwise, he would believe in universal atonement. And there are some Christians, however mixed up, who believe that everyone is saved. Brian is a limited man on this issue.
But let's put this to the test. Pick your favorite OT lost person. Do you like Goliath? Pharoah? Ahab? Jezebel? Any will do.
According to Jesus in the NT, where are these folks right now and what are they doing? They are in Hell, experiencing forever the wrath of God against them, having died in their sins, and now paying for their sinfulness throughout eternity.
Now back to Jesus. If, say, Ahab is at this very moment experiencing the wrath of God forever and ever for his sins, then how could a just, righteous, and loving God force His wrath upon His Son on the cross 880 years later to pay for Ahab's sins when Ahab has been doing just that already for 880 years before Calvary? To believe that, we have the situation of Christ being crucified again, something really condemned in Hebrews 6. A/Ps love to see Jesus placed in theological double jeopardy as He suffers on the cross.
Further, we also run afoul of Isaiah 53 wherein we have the depiction of the suffering servant (Jesus) seeing the travail of His soul and being satisfied. Not dissatisfied. Not worrying about Ahab still suffering for Ahab's sins despite what Jesus would attempt to do for him. And we don't have a truly angry Son of God wondering why the Father is making Him die in vain for someone in Hell forever anyway. Do you see the many problems here?
In other words, Isaiah 53 is saying that Jesus is not some kind of masochist who just likes to suffer for sin; instead He suffers for the sins of a particular people, in this case, the elect. And only the elect. A limited (like Brian and Calvinists would both agree on) albeit large group of people. Jesus prays about this very thing in John 17 when he declines to pray for the world. And our Dear Lord is satisfied in His great work to save these elect people. The people given to Christ by the Father for salvation. Again, John 17.
This one teaching from God's word destroys Arminian/Provisionism in one move since we see here from God's word that Christ did not die for everyone. He died for the elect. Have a problem with that? Talk to the judge.
That will preach all day. Amen.
@user-qs2hn1xo3l Phew back atcha. This so called quandary is not a quandary at all. It is a God thing. The same scripture has the potential of blessing or condemning, depending on whether or not God has elected a person to salvation in the first place. Note how the Hebrews writer says that by faith Noah condemned the world as he built the ark and preached God's word to a dying world. Note also that back in Genesis you do not see a conversation between God and Noah where Noah asks God why there are not more first class passenger seats on the ark. God at first only says that Noah and his family will ride to safety. Brian and apparently you forget why the ark was built and floated in the first place. God had pronounced judgment against mankind, but would not carry it out for some one hundred years. Every day Noah was working on the ark, the under construction ark was a daily increasing pronouncement against man's wickedness.
And then the defining moment. The Bible says that God commanded Noah and his family to enter the ark. That verse in Genesis to me is the most scary and stark election verse in the OT. Why? Because the moment God shut up Noah and crew inside the ark, everyone inside that ark knew they were elected unto salvation. But everyone outside that door was doomed to Hell and reside there even now as I write and you read this comment.
And there is always some Arminian who gets this next point wrong. God did not create fresh evil in the hearts of the doomed. He did not need to. Why? God just took his hands off the lives of the doomed and let the default condition of man (original sin) run its course. God chose and gave grace and mercy to Noah and crew. The people on the ground got the justice, according to God's command, that they deserved. Arminians, if you have a problem with that, talk to the Judge.
Calvinists are not necessarily heretics. They seem to feel it is right to ascribe to God full sovereignty, i can see their point after all believers are predestined. Howevr calvinism opens up the conclusion of double predestination and i disagree on that but many reformed pastors are very serious students of The Word and clearly teach good orthodox theology outside of their reformed teaching. Calvinism is bizarre
Any theology where God is omnipotent "opens up the conclusion of double predestination". Is the non-Calvinist God simply unable to save those who are on their way to Hell?
@@johnathanl8396 was the calvinist God 'simply unable' to create a man that would obey him. Was He simply unable to keep satan out of the garden
@@johornbuckle5272 God, in His sovereign Will, allows for evil things to happen. Including Satan and the Fall of Man. It's exactly BECAUSE He is sovereign and in-control, is why I trust Him. He promises that evil will be punished, and that all those who believe in His Son will be saved - and I know that He WILL save people because He is Sovereign.
The Force in Star Wars is seen by many as "Space Kabbah" thus Judaism, Thus Torah.
Romans one also states man is given up to fate and God is not sovereign.
We may need home churches soon.
Darth Vader must be a false convert?
No, God doesn't save us because we are better than unsaved people. Calvinism teaches that we are saved by grace despite our natural condition.
All arguments against it are asking why God doesn't give unsaved people a new heart, spiritual life, and ears to hear.
Go listen to Vader reading Ephesians chapter 2.
I frequently use the analogy that George Lucas created Vader and ordained the Empire to destroy Alderaan, but the moral of the story is to be a Jedi, not to serve the empire.
Also, Geneva did not make John Calvin the legal authority. He taught scripture. Scripture is the authority. John was sorry that his state condemned Servetus, and he tried to save him.
And about the ministries that take great effort to defend monergistic soteriology, Leighton Flowers regularly spends hours ranting about calvinism, while calvinists focus on many other topics.
That's not true. Calvinism focused on converting Christians as shown in this video. Scripture is the authority, and John Calvin's killing and forcing people to obey laws demonstrated that he doesn't understand it, how clear is that? By saying God randomly choosing some to be saved and some to be condemned isn't taught in the Scriptures.
All religious ideas have to be defended.
Odd thing that people who believe they are elect would choose to kill someone who didnt believe like them. Shouldnt they have just assumed these people were not chosen amd therefore doomed to hell anyway? Why did they jave to kill them? Just that fact shows they do not possess the love of Yahushua
You think Calvinists want to kill people who don't think like them? Have you ever met a Christian who is a Calvinist before? That is horrible to say to someone
I'm not a calvinist, and I certainly don't believe in calvinism; nor the way calvinist explains God's sovereignty, or ideas of predestination and election.
For one it's makes no since; how would a calvinist spout his beliefs about predestination and election, believing he himself is one of the predestined elected one's; sounds arrogant to me.
It least the pentecostals who has another interpretation of scripture I don't agree with; says you have to have the baptism of the Holy Spirit with the evidents of speaking tongues; in order to know you've received Holy Spirit, and therefore have assurance of salvation and actually be saved. At least there's involves an external act of God, which it could be said, you know there one of the chosen, or predestined ones because God has gifted them his Holy Spirit and proved it by causing them to speak in tongues, that makes more since then calvinism to me, and I don't even agree with that.
Plus the bible make it clear, that many people will think they have intimacy and relationship with Him; but not actually know Him, they'll only know of, or about Him, like the bible says in:
Matthew 7:22-24 where he talks about many saying lord lord.
Matthew 25:41 where he talks about goats and sheeps
1 Corinthians 13:1-25 where he talks about moving in all the giftings, but having no love for other's springing out of his love for you, therefore missing the point of why you're even saved.
Plus the bible makes it clear knowing God through Jesus is eternal life: John 17:3
"3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know You, the only true [supreme and sovereign] God, and [in the same manner know] Jesus [as the] Christ whom You have sent."
Knowing God is eternal life, not praying a prayer to go heaven; or trying to figure out who's chosen or predestined whatever that means; and we know we know Him through this simple action; the love you have for other's; like the bible says: 1st John 4:7-9
"7 Beloved, let us [unselfishly] love and seek the best for one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves [others] is born of God and knows God [through personal experience]. 8 The one who does not love has not become acquainted with God [does not and never did know Him], for God is love. [He is the originator of love, and it is an enduring attribute of His nature.] 9 By this the love of God was displayed in us, in that God has sent His [One and] only begotten Son [the One who is truly unique, the only One of His kind] into the world so that we might live through Him."
Look I personally believe like the scripture state's in Matthew 24:14 "For many are called (invited, summoned), but few are chosen.” " I believe God has given me understanding on that verse, and it means, we're all called by God to believe on Christ without whom no one can be saved, God wants everyone to come unto everlasting life He wants all of us to heed the call and believe on Christ, that's why he sent Him so that the world through Him may be save.
And I believe we're all chosen through Christ, meaning we're all chosen to become love, through personal and intimate relationship with God through Christ His son, not do love but become love so that it's not what we do; it becomes who we are, and out of who we are (love), we love other's
So we're all chosen to walk in unselfish love toward one another; loving and seeing each other the way we see God loves and sees us.
But here's where the (few) comes in, there are few that choose to become lov; or that are willing to become love, a lot of us refuse to let go of bitterness, hatred, selfishness, envy, Jealousy, ill will and so on, they close there hearts up and hold on to rights to have un-forgiveness all these thing's are contrary to love; In the Bible says if you don't love you don't know God; not you don't go to church, not you don't believe in calvinism, not you don't sing and pray to Him, it's say if you don't love you don't know Him.
Look I believe God only truly choose and elected one person, that person being Jesus and through Him all of humanity was given the right to become His children, we're all chosen to believe on Jesus God's not calling all and choosing some,
we're all called, we're all chosen, but the way you live your life reflects what you say you believe, if you know Him you'll love like Him. Because the fruit of your life is gonna be the expression of what you believe, you know them by there fruits not there doctrine, it's says if you love you know God, if you don't love you just don't know him, and goal of our instruction is love; anyone who loves is born of Him and knows Him, and knowing him is eternal life.
The goats and the sheep parable had to do with love, one group loved and the other group didn't, one group saw the needs of others opened there heart toward them in unselfish love and made attempts to meet that need at there own expense, the other group saw the need closed there heart up in selfishness and refused, or had some excuse as to why they couldn't help when they probably really could have.
Misunderstandings, misrepresentations, caricatures, and straw men here...
Zero substance comment! You didn't even give one example to substantiate your accusation.
@@faithonfireministries Most of these "anti-Reformed theology" (I don't care for the label Calvinism, I prefer monergism or RT) channels like yours and Flowers and idol killer, you appeal to "fans" and followers who themselves often have very little understanding or depth of true RT and the history of the Remonstrance and Dort, confessions, etc. I would guess 99.9% of monergists don't even know of your channels so these channels just become echo chambers of emotionalism and eisegesis and screaming Jn 3:16 and 1 Jn 2:2 as if citing a verse settles it. Start actually getting into exegesis of texts, talk about Greek grammar and clauses and how the original authors used phrases like "hina pas ho pisteun" (Jn 3:16, not whosoever, but "all the believing ones"), get into substantial discussions. Have a good day, I am done. Feel free to delete my comment if you don't like it.
Calvinists constantly isolate a text out of context, sometimes even only part of one verse like pretty much whenever they cite John 15: 16 and only mention the part that suits their false view of election. I have it in comments and seen in videos from Calvinists a ton of times in which they simply say John 15: 16 proves Calvinism is true because Jesus said to the Apostles, "You didn't choose me, but I chose you" and they claim that is being chosen for salvation. But they chopped off the rest of the verse which explains what they were chosen for, which is not salvation but for service.
Here is the whole verse, "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you." Preaching the Gospel to bear fruit (other Christians) is what they were chosen for and that fruit has remained 2000 years later with millions and millions of Christians all around the world that all started with Jesus and His Apostles he chose to go out and be the first to preach the Gospel. And Judas was chosen but was not saved and he failed to do the service evidenced by Acts 1: 25 when Matthias took Judas' place. It says he failed his ministry and apostleship. Here is that verse, "That he [Matthias] may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place."
And though my above comment should have prompted you to respond with something relevant to my video, you still have not said one thing that is reference to my video. You just ranted about channels that call out Calvinism for what it is, a false religious system made by men. And since you brought it up, "whosoever believes" and "all the believing ones" shall not perish but have everlasting life is saying exactly the same thing and does not change the invitation to all to believe and be saved. And you can't get around the fact that the same exact sentiment is given in the prior verse, 15. "Pas" is Greek for everyone, and does not mean elect. So, everyone who believes will have eternal life. Calvinists say, not so fast! You must be elect or you can't truly believe and receive eternal life. They disregard the true Gospel and preach a false man-made gospel.
@@faithonfireministries let me recommend to you D.A. Carson, the Gospel of John, Pillar New Testament commentary series. read it and try to be humble and learn from arguably the top conservative new testament scholar in the world today. then you might understand why the best theologians in church history have been reformed since it's none other than the biblical teaching.
Why would you point me to a man, rather than to God's Word? My authority is Scripture. My teacher is the Holy Spirit. I don't rely on any man to give me their interpretation of God's Word, especially reformed theologians. Most of them don't believe in God's Word anyway and most of them spend an inordinate amount of energy trying to undermine Scripture. They usually only believe in man-made written systematic theologies and man-made written confessionals of faith and they try to make the Bible fit that.
Trusting them for advice would be like a business man in America deciding to go to a university professor and ask for advice on business and economics. Sure, they have a doctorate and maybe even wrote some books and articles and are likely praised among like-minded university professors, but 9 out of 10 times they are morons living in an echo chamber. They are going to give you some garbage leftist liberal Marxist communist propaganda and say Capitalism is evil and doesn't work. They do this while enjoying living in America and the freedom it provides and enjoying the fruits and benefits of a society chock full of endless opportunities that was built upon Capitalism. They never voluntarily relocate to a communist country for some reason.
I honestly think Calvinism is going to be the reigning view soon just because of these types of Anti-Calvinist channels.
Calvinist play way to much defense because the emotional responses of other Christian’s leading to constant hate on them constantly, and channels don’t seem to get past anger, hatred, strawman, silly phrases, and straying to far the opposite way.
Hopefully there are more big discussions among pastors of varying denominations about this stuff though.
Calvinism is dying off again in case you haven't been paying attention. It is a very dangerous set of false doctrines. That is why they are holding so many conferences to defend Calvinism in recent years and using stealth methods of infiltrating pastor roles in Non-Calvinist churches trying to take them over and eventually weed out those who will not comply with the new direction. Calvinists leaders are struggling to keep people blind to the actual Scriptures. It is a cult that has surged and shrunk back over and over again over time, and it surged again in the early 2000's with the young restless and reformed movement but it is shrinking back again because it is not sustainable because it is not Biblical and it hits a high point and then real Christians start to raise the alarms within Christianity and teach people what Scripture actually says and how different that is from the reformed systematic theology books and confessionals.
@@faithonfireministries I hope the church continues to work through the topic, but from what I’ve seen the past couple years, it’s been on the up.
Comments like “Real Christian’s” is pretty bonkers actually.
(Had to edit a typo in my first comment).
Ty for the reply.
I am not a Calvinist, but John Calvin is the figure head of the Huguenot Movement, Prophet Movement, etc. (Ignore his personal body count)Calvin must be judged by his followers. There have been civil wars in every Calvinist country including the US but none in Lutheran Scandinavia
That's because French Huguenot Christians who were influenced by Calvin were genocided by ROMAN CATHOLICS. How the heck can you blame those poor Huguenots who just wanted to be Protestant for being killed??
@@johnathanl8396 And the Troubles in Northern Ireland?
@@matthewmorrisdon5491 What about it? I didn't say one group was more violent than the other - I was just saying that it wasn't the Huguenots' fault for getting killed.
@@johnathanl8396 The only war of religion Sweden was part of was invading Germany. Huguenots were known to destroy Catholic churches. That is what Calvinism is about.
@@matthewmorrisdon5491 You sound like Turkey justifying their genocide of the Armenians - you're justifying a genocide of an entire faith-group because some within that faith group were violent. Calvin never wanted to start a violent revolution in France like the Munster rebellion was in Germany and 90% of Huguenots were only as violent as much as self defense was needed.
😂 first time seeing that!🤣
This is interesting
Welcome to the dark side of “Faith on fire”.
PLEASE READ THIS AND PLEASE BE MORE RESPECTFUL AND LOVING TO YOUR BROTHERS EVEN IF YOU THINK THEY ARE IN ERROR THIS IS NOT LOVE ITS HYPER CRITICAL AND IT SEEMS TO BE COMING FROM A PLACE OF HATRED
Brother, respectfully may I ask you a few questions. Firstly, in many of your videos you call Calvinism (although Calvinism is more than the 5 points eg paedo baptism, covenant theology etc) false religion or heresy; heresy refers to beliefs that are salvific in nature. So am I correcting in saying you believe that if someone believes these doctrines truly they are unsaved.
Secondly, I understand that you do not like these doctrines but I do think to set yourself up as the “bible believing” Christian and to see dissenters from your opinion as just those “calvinists” is arrogant; what you are saying is that 1/2 of the reformation whom adhered to the 5 solas were not bible believing when many of them were burned alive for doing so eg (Cranmer, Ridley, many French Huguenots, in fact that’s why the dreaded Calvin’s Institutes was written). Now I am not trying to infer simply because there was martyrs for a belief the belief was true, but these men were martyrs for believing that the bible was the final and only infallibility authority and so I think it is wrong for you to set yourself up as the bible believing Christian and dissenters are not. Because, respectfully, free grace was not a historically Christian view of sorteriology until the 20th century and so I think that you should be far more respectful as even if you were right (in which I actually think you are incredibly mistaken) you should show far more love and grace to your brothers unless your answer to the first question was yes as then you think all Calvinist’s are unsaved if they truly believe it.
Thirdly, why are you misrepresenting Calvinism, to make videos on it you must be well researched; so why do you not present it faithfully?. To say that it’s just those whom God elected it doesn’t matter about belief etc and that people do not need to respond they just need to be chosen. Do you know this is a misrepresentation. Brother it’s dishonest. Calvinism affirms that one must believe in fact John Calvin called faith the foundation of true Christianity essentially. I do not want to make this any longer but from watching your videos, I am honestly trying to suggest something here not point score, I think that you should research the fall in Calvinistic soteriology because I think this may clear up your hatred for the doctrine of reprobation and election.
I am not misrepresenting Calvinism at all. I have studied it thoroughly, probably far more so than the average person attending a Presbyterian or Reformed Baptist church, and my teachings on it are based upon its doctrines and the application of said doctrines and systematic theology. I recognize that not all Calvinists fully believe everything that is Calvinism. There are 3 point and 4 point Calvinists and those who affiliate with Calvinism that don't even understand what they are following. That is why certain Calvinists speak up and say they don't believe that or I am misrepresenting them. I find that many Calvinists don't even adhere or practice all the doctrines of Calvinism, which is a good thing. They should ditch all of them. Calvinism is false and from Satan and like Satan it deceives and indoctrinates with subtly and cunning. It is very cult-like. If that bothers people to hear, then they are bothered by the truth.
channel should be named "I hate everything calvin"
Yeah, I’m not much into idolizing unrepentant murderers and anti-semites as apparently some are. I’ll stick with Christ.
1 Timothy 4:10. Apokatastasis.
Calvinists: God can save all, but WONT.
Arminians: God would save all, but CAN'T.
Universal Restorationists: God CAN and WILL save EVERYONE.🌿🏆🌿
As a Traditional Christian, out of these 3 options? I'll take the middle with a major addition, it's up to you to decide plain and simple and that is Real Love! Thank You Jesus!
Many things we should all agree God can not do. God can not create a better God, God can not lie, God can not obey his word. Those do not make God less sovereign. God asked human to choose, that doesn't render God less sovereign. Human can do whatever they like, including rejecting the Grace, that doesn't not make God less powerful. God still in control of his final will, that is he desired all men to repent, no contradiction to his glory and scriptures.
@@swu11 This is something so simple to understand, yet it is a burden for some. At the end of the day, we need to pray that the Holy Spirit touch these lives that are badly indoctrinated.
All arguments against Calvinism lack substance, but this one especially lacks any sort of theological comprehension, and frankly a poor grasp of literature in general. The argument here can simply be dialed down to "I view this as mean, therefore it's NOT right", trying to save God from himself as if He needs saving or justification for what he does, nothing of theological substance here. This isn't a philosophy debate, our opinions have no basis to change the reasoning of God and words of the Bible.
Another term you should look up is 'historian's fallacy'
Brian, your key issue is that you do not understand grace. A conditional or provisional gift is not a gift. God's grace. One needs to look no further than Ephesians 2: 8-9.
First, what is grace? Is it a requirement from God? Is grace a debt that God somehow owes mankind? No, it is a gift as the Ephesians passage clearly says.
Second, who is giving this gift? Well, the Bible clearly says grace is a gift of God.
Third, when speaking of a gift, God's gift of grace, exactly who alone in the Ephesians chapter possesses the donative intent and ability to give the gift? Why God, of course.
Fourth, then who alone possesses and controls all of the circumstances about how the gift, if given at all, is dispensed to whomever the gift is given? In other words, who decides whether the gift is given at all, when it is given, how it is given, etc? God is the sole controller about the gift.
Fifth, is grace even a gift at all and if not, then what is it? The Bible says there is nothing we as lousy sinners can do to require God to give us this gift, nothing we can do to deserve it , work for it, wish for it, pay for it. And if we could perform any of these works, then it would not be a gift at all but a debt duly owed to us for services rendered.
The understanding of grace is at the center of the biblical doctrine of God's sovereign election unto salvation. God decides who is saved and when and how they are saved.
Once you understand this doctrine you will see it on practically every page of the Bible. And you will see the difference between God's grace and God's beneficence. "The rain falls on the just and the unjust". God's salvation, His grace, is not given to everyone by God's own choice. John 17: "I do not pray for the world". [Jesus praying]. God's own election.
Why? We do not know, but the Bible clearly says it, although God tips His hand when the Bible speaks of God doing things based on His pleasure and His sovereign purposes. Romans 8 and 9.
If a person claiming to be a Christian does not accept what the Bible says about grace, then that person must look themselves in the mirror and ask, "Just how self righteous was I before salvation"?
Jonathan Edwards said that the only thing we bring to Christ in salvation is our sin which makes our salvation necessary. Was your salvation necessary? What did you bring to the table? Now do you care to boast about anything you may have brought?
Quit playing the villain Brian. Get your theology straight.
If someone buys you car gift and says get your license and go and pick it up at the dealership, the car is still a gift.
Grace is Jesus paying the penalty of our sin when we deserve death. But one has to believe and one may choose not to.
Obviously you have to get your theology straight.
@@robertemard9452 Before you go pick up that Yugo at the dealership, let's put your fantasy to the test. The gift of salvation far surpasses that of a Lombarghini and is not inchoate. Jesus dies for those chosen by the Father. John 17. Before the foundation of the world. Eph 1:4. Rev17:8.
The Holy Spirit regenerates the lost person (who has no ability to appraise spiritual things (1Cor 2:14)), changing the "want to" of the doomed sinner, giving that person through grace saving faith in Christ.
The now redeemed sinner is now forever clothed in the righteousness of Christ (2Cor5:21). Once in Heaven, the saint walks the streets of gold forever. No earthly transportation needed.
P.S. Note how I proved my comment using Holy Scripture rather than a lame illustration. If you have something to say about soteriology please going forward show love for your Lord's Sacred Word. Until you do so, you will have no theology at all, just the secular humanism of A/P.
@@robertemard9452 And just how, pray tell, does one believe? How righteous a Pharisee must one be to conjure up saving faith? How do you, a pig swine (just like me before salvation) all of a sudden become a man of faith when, as the Bible says, you cannot even comprehend spiritual things? An awaiting world wants to know why you persist in another gospel. Gal 1:6-10.
This is essentially a straw man argument. Calvin was a Reformer. He believed in the principles of sola Scriptura, sola gratia, sola fide, sola Christo.
But in a sense, that is all irrelevant. Calvin himself has long since gone on to his eternal reward, and couldn't care less what Brian thinks about him. The real question is, what does the Bible teach about Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and Perseverance of the Saints?
(Calvin, for that matter, was an expository preacher who also wrote commentaries on most of the books of the Bible. How many anti-Calvinists have done that?)
A "Calvinist" could also just as easily argue that it is anti-Calvinists, like Brian, who are perverting the meaning of the Bible. They typically ignore practically everything that the Bible has to say about the sovereignty of God, His holiness, His moral law, His wrath against sin, the depravity of man, and the work of the Holy Spirit in salvation. They wrongly assume that an unregenerate sinner has a free will (nowhere in the Bible does it say any such thing), and in the process the concept of regeneration practically disappears. Evangelism becomes merely a matter of human persuasion, of salesmanship, and the life-changing work of the Holy Spirit practically disappears.
I would strongly urge you to read through Romans and Ephesians, starting with the first verse in each book and read all the way through, carefully following the line of argument. I think you will see where Calvin got most of his theology.
Amen, brother!
You better hope your right.
@@jordyE..calvin: had people flogged, tortured and killed over theology... 👍
Brian: says something thin skinned people think is mean... 😭
@@ravissary79 Also, literally EVERYONE did it back then, that's just the nature of the medeival Church and State system back then. You're just like the people who said the Apostle Paul was evil because he didn't outright condemn slavery in the Epistle to Philemon
@@jordyE.. where's the lie. People are loding it over Brian over practically nothing. He hasn't hurt anyone, just jokes and honest opinions. People act DISGUSTING towards him over nothing.
Look up how people who disagree with Calvin's theology were treated in Geneva.
It wasn't pretty. No lies, real history. The truth is ugly on those issues.
Christian assurance is part of Calvin.
@@matthewmorrisdon5491 you are following man, not God.
@@Here12years I am not a Calvinist. That is why I reject it.
@@Here12years My God would not have killed my mom, but she died of cancer. Therefore, God is not sovereign.
Oh brother. Darth Vader...really. This is your depth?
Sounds so much like something a proud Calvinist would say. So sorry that we do not have your depth of understanding on the "deeper things of God." Pride has a way of blinding a person to the simplicity of the gospel. Unless you become like a child...
@@Jesusisking235 Two words. Darth Vader
Love you brother keep speaking the truth I will not with the help of the Holy Spirit follow a murderer.
Amen! God bless you!
John Calvin did not want Servetus to be killed, but even if he did EVERY SINGLE CHRISTIAN lived under a Church+State system where breaking a Christian rule could mean your death. You're just like the people who said the Apostle Paul was evil because he didn't outright condemn slavery in the Epistle to Philemon
JohnNathan8396, I'm nothing like anybody who criticizes Apostle Paul. He is my favorite Apostle. So, your opinion is evidence of someone who doesn't know me or what I teach on this channel at all. Paul murdered Christians as a zealous Pharisee BEFORE he became a Christian and he was very hard on himself in the Scriptures about his past, calling himself the least of all the apostles because of his persecution of Christians and saying he is the chief of sinners.
As far as the history books tell us, John Calvin went to his early death unapologetic and unrepentant about how he lived his life. Only God knows what is truly in the heart of a person before they die, but let me just take an educated guess here: I'm going to see Paul in heaven one day but I highly doubt I am going to see John Calvin there.
You hurt your credibility in your response to the Vader clip.
Nope! Only with Calvinists with whom I don’t care what they think. Calvinism is a cancer within Christianity.
Your "nope"/tone only adds to my point.
You comr acrods a bit badly at times, and I didn't say I was gir Calvinism. I'm certainly not.
Okay, but I stand by the video and I am quite accustomed to naysaying comments. They don't bother me. No matter what position anyone takes publicly, especially with religion, there will always be those who make accusations that are designed to be more of a personal jab at them rather than any serious or substantive refutation of the arguments or facts they were discussing.
Calvinists speak like their father the adversary. What was the temptation in the wilderness but Satan trying to get the Lord to prove that he is the Son of God by his own works?
Similarly, they want US to prove that we are really saved ie: (sons of God) by our own works just like the enemy tried to get the Lord to do.
But like Jesus we say: IT IS WRITTEN!
And we proclaim the true Gospel of Grace. We do not go out and produce Ishmaels. We are like Abraham who staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; he was fully persuaded that what God had promised, he was able also to perform.
Well said brother Mike.
I sense that Calvinists are NEVER HAPPY unless a person who loves Christ is in their camp.
Michael Servetus was a socinian who did not only deny Calvin's view on scripture or salvation, but the concept of the trinity itself. We know from private correspondence that Calvin advised Servetus against coming to Geneva as the standard treatment for blasphemy was execution by burning. This may mean little to you, but Calvin even advocated for execution by beheading for Servetus as it was a quicker and less painful method.
In terms of those whom he was trying to convert, he was mostly dealing with Catholics and Anabaptists. Anabaptists at the time were sporadic in their doctrine due to their rejection of tradition and confessionalism so they could be marginally safe in their doctrine or wildly heretical to the point some believed they no longer required clothing.
Calvin was far from perfect in his dealings, but if you were to only look for perfect men to follow or preach the gospel then the only one you have left is Christ himself and you should happily delete your channel because I'm sure that rules you out too.
I never suggested John Calvin is being called out for not being perfect? That is a gross mischaracterization of what was presented in this video. Apostle Paul wasn't perfect either, having persecuted and overseen the killing of Christians when he was a Pharisee, but he got saved and repented and never did that again, and he became a martyr himself for preaching the Gospel. John Calvin died of sickness, not as a martyr but he saw to the demise and martyrdom of others for sure, and then he died early, unrepentant and my guess is he was never saved at all, but just another typical legalistic religious elitist as delusional as one could ever be about their eternal fate.
If you think that you'll find anyone before the 16th century who did not advocate for the burning or execution of blasphemers, then you clearly know nothing of church history.
I know church history. Let me ask you a question. Which came first, "Thou shalt not murder?" or the church history you are referring to? It seems you want to give people a pass for murder and evil just because it was part of the culture and ignorance and power struggles over resources and control of people at the time. How sad.
@@faithonfireministriesLast time I checked, David, Samson, Solomon, Jacob, Moses, Joshua, and many many more all had people killed in order to purge the land of blasphemers. Furthermore, murder is totally distinct from corporal punishment. Servetus was a blasphemer against God and in his arrogance, NOT IGNORANCE, went to a place where he knew he would be put to death for blaspheming against God.
Try again.
Okay, don't forget Saul the Pharisee. He was a religious zealot who murdered Christians before becoming the saved Apostle Paul. He repented and then only exhibited love towards everyone, even his persecutors unto death as a martyr. But, if you want to look at the other examples for justification of murdering people who don't share in your specific Calvinistic doctrines such as John Calvin and Servetus, you only give credibility to the warning I gave Christians in another recent video I did. I taught a message on the two religions of the world, Cain and Abel, about works religion vs grace and faith. I spoke about how Cain killed Abel and gave the reason for that, and explained how history has shown us that Cain kills Abel over and over and over again, and always will as history always repeats itself.
Today, Calvinists in America are restrained by the law of our land and don't want to go to jail. Their evil rhetoric towards religious opponents shows us what is in their hearts. They emulate the god they have formed in their own minds, a god who loves some and hates all others and wants to expend his wrath on those whom he rejected.
History proves that when Christians make the laws we outlaw murder and stealing and things of a sinful nature, but we don't demand submission to our faith and we lovingly preach the Gospel of Christ to the lost with patience. However, history proves that if Calvinists were somehow given control of the law and the courts, they would deem any other religious doctrines outside their own as heretical punishable by death and they would start mass round ups and systematically killing off those who refuse to submit to their authority and control because Calvinism is Cain and Bible Believing Christianity is Abel.