Nice video. I have found in my time in Austria (negative 10 down to negative 20 Celcius, 14F to -4F, many months of week-long trips) that a bivi can be used however you may want to consider either a raised bivi (hoop at head and foot) or a few strips of foam to use on top of your sleeping bag to keep the cold bivi off your sleeping bag - basically in very cold temperatures as described you will want to break the conductive connection between your sleeping bag and the bivi bag, especially if there is any wind - there is always wind. You will also want at minimum a (lightweight) tarp overhead to break the vertical cold wind which occurs because the air immediately around your body becomes relatively warmer and less dense than the surrounding air and therefore floats away, leaving a low pressure area around you which is constantly filled by fresh cold air. Another option for similar pack size and perhaps less weight might be a Dyneema tent like from ZPacks - more room and not cold wind but higher profile.
@@zufuss yess loved it! ..in combination with a basha was also super....we still had the Carinthia sleeping bag system and their bivi...but now they get issued with the Fecsa clones..lookalikes...
A light tarp over the bivi gives better weather protection and storage space bud, nothing worse than climbing out your maggot and bivi in rain without overhead cover, my double hooped GoreTex bivi is my favourite bedroom in the outdoors but always used under a tarp.
I have pretty similar sleeping gear and try to take the jaakari M whenever I can get away with it. Your setup doesn't leave a lot of space for very much of anything else though, does it? But I guess that doesn't matter if you just need your sleeping stuff and none of the rest. In order to have capacity for food, water, cooking utensils, extra layers and other bits, I tend to use the Defence 1 and make up for it's lack of insulation with extra layers. Why 2 mats? I tend to leave my klymits at home these days, instead taking the savotta's rollmat for the sake of simplicity. It is bulkier than what you use, but it acts as both a groundsheet and footprint for the biwi, and is surprisingly comfortable to sleep on. Of course, that being attached to the underside of the backpack rather than being carried inside it. If you find that biwi bit tight try the Observer Plus model, the increased headspace makes a LOT of difference when it comes to comfort. From size it also easily fits the larger L backpack and rest of the gear with you inside. Personally I prefer the M though, even overstuffed and heavily loaded. Such a great and comfortable pack!
Hi Jura Thank you for your comment and sharing your thoughts 👍🏻. For the video I have just stuffed the items into the pack… I love the jaakari M it’s one of my favourite backpacks. I have used it for many trips and I have additional pouches for extra items also I do take my time to pack it properly for a trip and not like on the video 😊. I recently bought the savotta rollmat but haven’t had the time to test it out yet.. by the way savotta is IMO one of the best manufacturers of gear 🤘🏻 I just love my savott gear along with my carinthia sleeping bags. Merry Christmas Lars
And yes I also do prefer the M pack, I also have the L version but for some reason it is for me not as comfortable as the M.. I like the less padded straps on the M better than the padded ones on the L… it doesn’t make sense but the M is just more comfortable for some reason
It really is! Even with 12kg on your back you hardly know it's there. 15 is a limit for me, but i seldom manage to squeeze that much stuff into its 20something liters. Super low profile and it feels like part of your body. Perfect for rough terrain. I have the L as well, but unless I really need the extra volume it stays at home. Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the Savotta mat when you put it through it's paces! It definitely isn't small or light, but it is so versatile, and as I said, surprisingly comfortable
@@zufuss I find the same. Even with the same weights, on the upper limit for M, I still find it more comfortable and stable. It just does not move when you adjust it properly. For rapid descents it doesn't throw you from side to side with inertia. My pet peeve with the L is that finding anything in the bottom of of it with its rolltop is like going on a caving adventure. Good luck without a headlamp, even during an overcast day sometimes.
Hi Carlos Thank you for your comment and question 👍🏻😊 I use a pair of Danish boots. Brand is LeBock. Light combat boots… nice everyday boots but not the strongest soles. lebock.dk/militaer/fodtoj/bg/militaer/1012#p=2&ps=20&s=Default&pg=1012&c=IntcIiR0eXBlXCI6XCJMZUJvY2suUHJvZHVjdHMuRFRPLkN1c3RvbUxvb2t1cFZhbHVlcywgTGVCT0NLXCIsXCJCdXNpbmVzc0FsaWFzXCI6XCJtaWxpdGFlclwiLFwiQnJhbmRBbGlhc1wiOlwiXCIsXCJJc05ld1wiOm51bGwsXCJJc0Jlc3RTZWxsZXJcIjpudWxsLFwiSXNEaXNjb3VudFwiOm51bGwsXCJJc091dGxldFwiOm51bGx9Ig== here is a link to lebock but It looks like they don’t make the model I’m wearing anymore. Best Lars
And what do you think about a bivy roll? Means le the hole set up as is (of course metal parts out) and roll it as smal as possible to a roll. And compress it with a back, to put it all outside on the backpack. Did you tried it? How big is it? Find only one video in RUclips about it. Cheers
It is possible, and if you roll it up with sleeping pad and sleeping bag inside you don’t need a bag for it.. the bivy will protect the sleeping bag from getting wet.. I will make a short video… give me some time and I will upload it in the future. By the way if you need a bit more space for gear or your dog please check out the snugpak ionosphere… best Lars
@@danmanlivingthedream7069 I have the snug pak and have had no issues with it so far. I have had it for a little over a year. I have also seen mixed reviews about the company but as far as I know they have improved again after a few years with manufacture issues. Best Lars
Thank you for the review. This is the kit, I’m looking at. For fall, and winter camping. Will a larger pack, a full kit, fit in the head end? Did you compare the Corinthian 4, with the British bag?
Hi Bill Thank you for your question… I’m not sure a larger pack will fit in the headend of the bivy.. A medium size bag around 40 litter will b possible, but it also depends on how tall you are. I would suggest you to bring a tarp to put over the head end of the bivy if possible and to store your larger items under the tarp as well. I hope my answer makes sense. Best Lars
Hi Bill ..in the Dutch army we had 2 sizes of hoped bivybags..Large and extra large..I'm only 165 meter so I had plenty of room for my lowe alpine bergen...and its always better to use it in conjunction with a poncho or basha...greetings from the Netherlands
It’s actually from iMovie the app I use to edit my videos. It has some music free to use 👍🏻 I can’t remember what the title of the tune. Have a great weekend I’m off to the woods today 😊👍🏻 Best Lars
Hi Jason, thank you for your question 👍🏻 there are still room enough for a person to move and turn inside the bivy bag. Personally I tend to get a little claustrophobic when things get to tight around me, but as long as I don’t close the bivy entirely so I get some fresh air to my face I feel completely fine inside the bivy. Merry Christmas. Lars
@@multiactivejussivaarala ah OK. Yes a lot of things to consider before you pick an item. Personal I preferred things dos not get to cramp and tight. I'm only 177cm tall. And also I hate to feel inclosed so I don't close my bivy bag fully. Anyway I hope you will find something that will work for you 🙂 All the best Lars
Do you think i can fit a sea to summit ether light xt extreme large (198 x 64 x 10 cm) sleepingpad inside plus a Carinthia Defence 6? Im a small guy that is only 172cm and 70kg.
Thank you for your question. If you use a groundsheet you can place it underneath. I think inside will most likely also work, but the hight of the mattress will limit your space inside the bivy. Let me know if you want me to measure the width of the bivy.. length vise there will be no issues. Best Lars
@@zufuss why? Better let sleep him with me then outside alone. Question is how much space is at the head part. When its enough room for a backup, it should be enough space for my little Englishstaffy .🤔
@@danmanlivingthedream7069 hmm 🤔 hard to say for sure… it might work 🤷♂️ personally I would go for something a bit larger, but it all depends on how you feel inside a confined space with an animal also. You will have to try it out 👍🏻 best Lars
Nice video. I have found in my time in Austria (negative 10 down to negative 20 Celcius, 14F to -4F, many months of week-long trips) that a bivi can be used however you may want to consider either a raised bivi (hoop at head and foot) or a few strips of foam to use on top of your sleeping bag to keep the cold bivi off your sleeping bag - basically in very cold temperatures as described you will want to break the conductive connection between your sleeping bag and the bivi bag, especially if there is any wind - there is always wind. You will also want at minimum a (lightweight) tarp overhead to break the vertical cold wind which occurs because the air immediately around your body becomes relatively warmer and less dense than the surrounding air and therefore floats away, leaving a low pressure area around you which is constantly filled by fresh cold air. Another option for similar pack size and perhaps less weight might be a Dyneema tent like from ZPacks - more room and not cold wind but higher profile.
Thank you for your comment and advise on the use of the bivy 👍🏻👌🏻 best Lars
Nice stuff we got it ssued in the Dutch army ...as a infantry man loved it
Thank you for your comment James👍🏻 its a great piece of gear and I’m sure you have had great use of it 👍🏻👍🏻
@@zufuss yess loved it! ..in combination with a basha was also super....we still had the Carinthia sleeping bag system and their bivi...but now they get issued with the Fecsa clones..lookalikes...
You’re an absolute star pal. Cheers.
Thanks 😂 have a good day mate 👍🏻
My best friend, Enjoyed watching this video my friend Really awesome views Thank you Stay connected
I love mine, wouldn't swap it out for any other bivy
I agree with you, it’s a great piece of gear 👍🏻
A light tarp over the bivi gives better weather protection and storage space bud, nothing worse than climbing out your maggot and bivi in rain without overhead cover, my double hooped GoreTex bivi is my favourite bedroom in the outdoors but always used under a tarp.
Indeed I always use a tarp in conjunction with the bivy 👌🏻 thank you for your comment 😊 happy new year 😊👍🏻
@@zufuss Ah good man and a happy new year to you also 👍🏻
@@neanderthaloutdoors9202 thanks mate 😊👍🏻
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As im getting older i definitely fined it important for sleeping pad
It makes a huge difference 👍🏻 I do also prefer a sleeping pad 😊
Thanks
My pleasure 👍🏻
Does exactly what it says on the tin!
I have pretty similar sleeping gear and try to take the jaakari M whenever I can get away with it.
Your setup doesn't leave a lot of space for very much of anything else though, does it? But I guess that doesn't matter if you just need your sleeping stuff and none of the rest.
In order to have capacity for food, water, cooking utensils, extra layers and other bits, I tend to use the Defence 1 and make up for it's lack of insulation with extra layers. Why 2 mats? I tend to leave my klymits at home these days, instead taking the savotta's rollmat for the sake of simplicity. It is bulkier than what you use, but it acts as both a groundsheet and footprint for the biwi, and is surprisingly comfortable to sleep on. Of course, that being attached to the underside of the backpack rather than being carried inside it.
If you find that biwi bit tight try the Observer Plus model, the increased headspace makes a LOT of difference when it comes to comfort.
From size it also easily fits the larger L backpack and rest of the gear with you inside.
Personally I prefer the M though, even overstuffed and heavily loaded. Such a great and comfortable pack!
Hi Jura
Thank you for your comment and sharing your thoughts 👍🏻. For the video I have just stuffed the items into the pack… I love the jaakari M it’s one of my favourite backpacks. I have used it for many trips and I have additional pouches for extra items also I do take my time to pack it properly for a trip and not like on the video 😊.
I recently bought the savotta rollmat but haven’t had the time to test it out yet.. by the way savotta is IMO one of the best manufacturers of gear 🤘🏻 I just love my savott gear along with my carinthia sleeping bags. Merry Christmas
Lars
And yes I also do prefer the M pack, I also have the L version but for some reason it is for me not as comfortable as the M.. I like the less padded straps on the M better than the padded ones on the L… it doesn’t make sense but the M is just more comfortable for some reason
It really is! Even with 12kg on your back you hardly know it's there. 15 is a limit for me, but i seldom manage to squeeze that much stuff into its 20something liters. Super low profile and it feels like part of your body. Perfect for rough terrain. I have the L as well, but unless I really need the extra volume it stays at home.
Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on the Savotta mat when you put it through it's paces! It definitely isn't small or light, but it is so versatile, and as I said, surprisingly comfortable
@@zufuss I find the same. Even with the same weights, on the upper limit for M, I still find it more comfortable and stable. It just does not move when you adjust it properly. For rapid descents it doesn't throw you from side to side with inertia.
My pet peeve with the L is that finding anything in the bottom of of it with its rolltop is like going on a caving adventure. Good luck without a headlamp, even during an overcast day sometimes.
@@apsynto I sure will 👍🏻 I’m looking forward to test it out 😊.
Hello, good video. I got a question for you, what boots do you use?
Hi Carlos
Thank you for your comment and question 👍🏻😊
I use a pair of Danish boots. Brand is LeBock. Light combat boots… nice everyday boots but not the strongest soles. lebock.dk/militaer/fodtoj/bg/militaer/1012#p=2&ps=20&s=Default&pg=1012&c=IntcIiR0eXBlXCI6XCJMZUJvY2suUHJvZHVjdHMuRFRPLkN1c3RvbUxvb2t1cFZhbHVlcywgTGVCT0NLXCIsXCJCdXNpbmVzc0FsaWFzXCI6XCJtaWxpdGFlclwiLFwiQnJhbmRBbGlhc1wiOlwiXCIsXCJJc05ld1wiOm51bGwsXCJJc0Jlc3RTZWxsZXJcIjpudWxsLFwiSXNEaXNjb3VudFwiOm51bGwsXCJJc091dGxldFwiOm51bGx9Ig== here is a link to lebock but It looks like they don’t make the model I’m wearing anymore. Best Lars
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And what do you think about a bivy roll? Means le the hole set up as is (of course metal parts out) and roll it as smal as possible to a roll. And compress it with a back, to put it all outside on the backpack. Did you tried it? How big is it? Find only one video in RUclips about it. Cheers
It is possible, and if you roll it up with sleeping pad and sleeping bag inside you don’t need a bag for it.. the bivy will protect the sleeping bag from getting wet.. I will make a short video… give me some time and I will upload it in the future. By the way if you need a bit more space for gear or your dog please check out the snugpak ionosphere… best Lars
@@zufuss yeah looked for the snukbag, but its smaller then the xl version. Also seen viedeos here with some critical points by water resistance.
@@danmanlivingthedream7069 I have the snug pak and have had no issues with it so far. I have had it for a little over a year. I have also seen mixed reviews about the company but as far as I know they have improved again after a few years with manufacture issues.
Best Lars
Thank you for the review.
This is the kit, I’m looking at. For fall, and winter camping.
Will a larger pack, a full kit, fit in the head end? Did you compare the Corinthian 4, with the British bag?
Hi Bill
Thank you for your question… I’m not sure a larger pack will fit in the headend of the bivy.. A medium size bag around 40 litter will b possible, but it also depends on how tall you are. I would suggest you to bring a tarp to put over the head end of the bivy if possible and to store your larger items under the tarp as well. I hope my answer makes sense. Best Lars
Hi Bill ..in the Dutch army we had 2 sizes of hoped bivybags..Large and extra large..I'm only 165 meter so I had plenty of room for my lowe alpine bergen...and its always better to use it in conjunction with a poncho or basha...greetings from the Netherlands
What is the music it is stunning?
It’s actually from iMovie the app I use to edit my videos. It has some music free to use 👍🏻 I can’t remember what the title of the tune. Have a great weekend I’m off to the woods today 😊👍🏻
Best Lars
Hi there, is this the L or XL size? (L is 230 the XL 270cm long)
How much room is left in the pack after the sleeping bag is in. Thanks
Hi Jason, thank you for your question 👍🏻 there are still room enough for a person to move and turn inside the bivy bag. Personally I tend to get a little claustrophobic when things get to tight around me, but as long as I don’t close the bivy entirely so I get some fresh air to my face I feel completely fine inside the bivy.
Merry Christmas. Lars
Bivy for big men theme, where it id
Thank you for your comment, sorry but I don't understand what you meant? Best Lars
@@zufuss nobody talks about problem that there is in shops bivybags for men over 195'cm, and all others are too.small and tight
@@multiactivejussivaarala ah OK. Yes a lot of things to consider before you pick an item. Personal I preferred things dos not get to cramp and tight. I'm only 177cm tall. And also I hate to feel inclosed so I don't close my bivy bag fully. Anyway I hope you will find something that will work for you 🙂
All the best
Lars
what dimensions LxW is your foldable mat you put underneath? @metal detecting and outdoor primitive camping
Hi Bastiaan I will measure the mat tomorrow and return 👍🏻😊 best Lars
Hi again the dimensions are: 190 x 60 x 0,5 cm (74,8 inch X 23,6 inch and 1,96 in thickness) best Lars
Thanks for the effort! :)
@@bastiaans8663 no problem mate 😊👍🏻
Do you think i can fit a sea to summit ether light xt extreme large (198 x 64 x 10 cm) sleepingpad inside plus a Carinthia Defence 6? Im a small guy that is only 172cm and 70kg.
Thank you for your question. If you use a groundsheet you can place it underneath. I think inside will most likely also work, but the hight of the mattress will limit your space inside the bivy.
Let me know if you want me to measure the width of the bivy.. length vise there will be no issues.
Best Lars
@@zufuss Yeah please measure the bag please.
@@Jakelol1980 length approximately 235 cm. Approximately 90 cm wide at entrance and Approximately 60 at the bottom.
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Lars
@@zufuss thanks for the quick answer ❤️
@@Jakelol1980 no problem mate 🙂👍🏻
How tall are you?
Thank you for your question. I’m 177 centimetres. Approximately 5,8 foot
What do you think about the xl size and a small dog ansted the backpack inside? Possible?
You can fit a medium backpack at the foot end but I would not recommend you to have an animal inside the bivy bag… best Lars
@@zufuss why? Better let sleep him with me then outside alone. Question is how much space is at the head part. When its enough room for a backup, it should be enough space for my little Englishstaffy .🤔
@@danmanlivingthedream7069 hmm 🤔 hard to say for sure… it might work 🤷♂️ personally I would go for something a bit larger, but it all depends on how you feel inside a confined space with an animal also. You will have to try it out 👍🏻 best
Lars
what are your pants in this video ?
Fjällräven, if you like I can do a video on my favourite pants 😊
Best
Lars
@@zufuss oh yeah it could be really interesting :D
put bag and boots @ foot end
Definitely a good idea 👍🏻 thank you for your comment 👍🏻
I wouldn t fit in it i am 190cm