Automobilista 2 (Quest 3) vs. GT7 (PSVR2) - Is there a Clear Winner? My Results Shocked Me
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2023
- Automobilista 2 (Quest 3) vs. GT7 (PSVR2) - Is there a Clear Winner? My Results Shocked Me - We are playing Automobilista 2 on the Quest 3 and comparing it to Gran Turismo 7 on PSVR2. AMS2 is available on PC only while GT7 is available on PS5 only. AMS2 is one of the best looking VR sim racing games out there so I wanted to see how GT7 on PSVR2 could stack up against it on the Quest 3. Two different headsets, both with their own strong points but will there be a clear winner here?
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Thank you for a concise analysis, and not an hour long video.
I hated racing games, but i bought gt7 because i have a psvr2 now i have a complete sim setup and its the only game I play anymore..
Its that good😅
😀
As always: GREAT VIDEO! :) Really looking forward to Quest 3. Still racing with Quest 2.
I moved form Q2 to Q3 with AMS2 - Its an amazing step up even better than the Reverb G2 imo
Thanks!
The weird situation: Dynamic Foveated Rendering would be best with pancakelenses. On PSVR2 you cannot look to the edges and see much difference when static foveation is enabled - because the sweetspot is so small and outside areas are veryblurry.
So Quest 3 has the lenses, but PSVR2 the eyetracking.............
Also weird: Since Fresnell lenses on PSVR2 blur a lot the more you get closer to the edges, you could simply use static foveation to save up performance and many people wont even notice it - but no: Many developers simply use nothing of that at all and therefore often deliver resolution ingame, that is just average or even below.
PSVR2 has everything else, Q3 has the lenses. But since you look through the lenses every time you use the device that's the most important part of the headset and Sony really does not deliver. I hope that Q3 delivers, because I'm replacing my PSVR2 with it because auf the tiny sweet spot and mura effect.
@@taptoplayde it is annoying for sure from time to time....the pancakelenses improves the experience a lot...still there is this weird stretch. If you are not PCVR you still have to going to live with the mobile VR visuals.
@@derschnuff8819 Yeah, I know, but for rhythm games, puzzle games, Pistol Whip and Red Matter 2 this seems to be fine. It still feels to me like I will upgrade to Pico 5 Pro, then Quest 4, then PSVR3 and PSVR3 will be what I expected PSVR2 would be 🙂.
@@taptoplayde as PSVR2 is more like PSVR1 should have been....Vr still feels a bit off...it is what it is^^.
On point.
And adding some info to the comment, OLED and pancake lenses together are difficult cause these lenses need a lot of brightness.
I feel bad for the two VR headset solutions, but I had to make a decision, I went with quest3, and I will get it tomorrow.
hi, great review, but I would like to know how Quest 3 behaves in iRacing and if you play it via wifi or cable? Thanks
Quest 3 is great for iRacing, and I play it with a cable.
I like your comparison style. Great job Cas hoping you will compare rFactor and Assetto Corsa eventually as well as far as the physics graphics and easy vs hard to play. It sounds like ams2 may be a little like ACC? As in kinda hard to drive. ?
Yes, I find other Racing Sims like AMS2 and iRacing harder to drive vs something like GT7.
If the mura/dirty screen effect bothers you, use a pair of polarised sunglasses with PSVR2.
Gt7 VR2 is the Game Changer! Luv it 🤩
Yo, yeah it is,im on it since psvr2 release day...but assetto, Dirt, f1, many other games need tha fkin psvr2 support...last weeks i spent on Dirt rally vr on psvr and it still awsome...where the fuck is Dirt 2.0 VR????? bro, psvr2 users r fucked up by devs...
What are you comparing to? Rig, game, vr headset?
Greetings
not really I'll still stick with the many good racing games on pc with 170° fov on pimax. But aslong as your having fun who really cares lol
@@g-rock9263 They are all supported on pc. maybe it's time,,
Assetto Corsa Competizione+vr2 ♥️♥️♥️
I just got my quest 3, man its been a pain getting it set up to where its usable. im new to PC VR and I apparantly I took for granted how plug and play the PSVR2 was.
question for you cas. is it normal that the quest 3 loses charge even when plugged into the USB port? I was hoping it would keep charge as that's something I never had to worry about with the playstationVR
so you run oculusVR instead of steamVR? since the settings you changed (700mbps). only affect oculusVR right? im using the virtual desktop streamer and that only allows up to 400mbps and I don't know how to push it higher with steamVR. its all very confusing haha.
thanks
Yes, the charge will slowly deplete when being used with a link cable. The debug tool bitrate setting, I don't believe it has an effect in virtual desktop. If you use AirLink, you must set that number back to zero, or it won't work. I am not sure if you can push anything higher than virtual desktop already offers if you are using that.
You are not alone. This pcvr setup absolute pain lol
If your using virtual desktop dont use oculus app as it uses resources,better of just using steam for games and activate the game within virtual desktop.dont use oculus tool either just set options from within virtual desktop or in game
Went through that pain myself looking for solutions, i went for d-link wireless solution and returning link cable which actually cost more. Then i can charge at the same time. There are special charging linc cables but it looks like 50% chance it will work perfectly, other times not at all, hah.
Just use opencomposite and virtual desktop VDXR runtime. Set foveated rendering with openXR toolkit. Profit. If using the Oculus Link with cable.. set 700mbps bitrate. Cut fov with fov tangent multiplier and push render res as much as possible.
I've been wondering whether to go with a premium PC + Quest 3 vs PS5 + PSVR2 so this helps a lot. Thanks!
You really can't go wrong with either one and each have their weaknesses and strengths depending on what you are looking for.
Definitely Q3 + PCVR first if you can afford it. I play 90% on PCVR and 10% on PSVR2. There just isn’t enough quality games on PlayStation yet and for what I paid I’m getting better value on PCVR plus I can refund games if not satisfied and have no monthly subscription if wanting to play online unlike Sony.
It also depends on ease of use,pcvr can be a real hassle where as psvr2 is just plug and play.theres pro's and con's to both
How do you deal with menu lag or mouse cursor slowness while in VR. Maybe in iRacing? Do your quest 3 also get disconnected and you have to restart them in order to get cable link working again?
I do not have any disconnecting issues or mouse lag. Maybe something is up with your connection or settings. What is PC setup?
@@thecasualracinggamer RTX 3070 with Ryzen 7 5800X
Do you get fps issues when playing simlab?? Maybe too many cars have to be loaded by the server? This week for example i cant play simlab in virginia with the mx5
thank you for sharing these informations
🙏
What kind of budget is required for a reasonable pc for pcvr gaming with quest 3 ?I've never owned one but would love to try it out
Definitely can not have enough power when it comes to VR. I would say RTX3080 or higher. Probably looking at around $1,700 to start for a setup. An RTX 3070 or 3070TI would probably be okay too.
Iv got a 2080ti and ryzen7 5700x and 16gb ddr4 3600mhz ram,not top end by any means but if you streamline your pc it works great,i can run most games at descent resolution and level of detail and be smooth and it wont cost you an arm and a leg
Like a lot of you, I’ve had the psvr 2 since launch. Absolutely put a ton of hours into GT7 VR.
I have recently got a quest 3 with the link cable.
Fired up Automobolista 2 in VR, OMG it pisses all over GT7.
Don’t get me wrong, GT7 in VR is fantastic! But AMS 2 is just a huge step up.
I even tested it with my wife. She had a go of gt7. Then straight on to the quest 3 with AMS2.
Her words here… wow that is miles better! Definitely prefer this one 😂
Will be interesting to see how good AMS2 will look on PSVR2. I do appreciate the sharpness, clarity, and lenses of the Quest 3.
Thanks for your video on the comparisons of VR headsets and games. I only have a PC and use my Quest 3 with AMS 2. I agree the clarity and resolution is very good with my Quest 3 on all my racing games. The sweet spot is very large with the headset compared to previous VR headsets I have tried. I connect my Quest 3 via a USB link Cable since I am sitting down all the time.
The only one I got good results from was and still have is the Oculus Rift S. Only CON with the Rift S is the lower resolution. This VR headset connected directly to the Graphics card through the Display Port.
it is too bad the GT7 is not available to run on a PC. i am not going to buy a PS 5 system just to run one game. I have many STEAM racing games on my Windows 10 PC, so I stay with that system and games.
I know AMS 2 and GT7 are both great games and really like your opinions on what you see for both games and with using VR.
Thanks again and take care.
I actually have a Rift S still. It was a great headset and always ran nice and smooth.
I don't think I've experienced anything in VR as good as automobilista 2. The visual quality and performance are excellent, and the sounds are also jaw dropping
Totally and yes, the sounds are great!
Iracing is probably marginally better in VR, as good as Ams2 is
I currently have a Quest 2 running AMS 2 a low spec system that does surprisingly well.
If I were to upgrade to the Quest 3 keeping the same AMS 2 in game setting, would the image quality be much clearer on the Quest 3.
The Quest 3 lenses offer edge to edge clarity over the Quest 2. It also offers a better FOV. On a lower end PC, you probably won't be able to take advantage of what the Quest 3 has to offer, but the lenses should look better.
@@thecasualracinggamer Thanks for the reply, much appreciated.
I do need a higher spec pc even for the quest 2. If the lenses on the Q3 improve the clarity, that in itself could be worthwhile upgrading.
I also have a dozen quest games installed on the headset, some of these are expecting a refresh for the quest 3.
If you use your Quest headset for stand-alone games too, it is way better than the Quest 2 in this regard, and I think for that alone, it's worth it. The clarity gain for stand-alone stuff is big. Also, mixed reality games on the Quest 3 is great, too.
what are those low specs, if I may ask? I am struggling to make it run decently in mine (rtx 2060)
@@elguitarrista1 Intel i7 5820K / GTX 980 / 16GB ram.
Can't tell you what the in game settings are but they are turned down to give me a reasonable frame rate.
I had the Quest 3 but because of GT7 I switched to the PSVR2. I also tried ACC, AM2, RFactor 2, IRacing, etc. on the PC. With the exception of IRacing, all of them fail in the single player and especially in the multiplayer mode. For me, GT7 is by far the best overall package you can get as a racing game fan. And yes, GT7 is not a hardcore sim, but it is definitely not an arcade racer. For me that's exactly the right middle ground. GT7 got me hooked too.
Fail? No.
I was hoping for more than a whole video of "this looks good"....i was hoping for actual game mode comparisons. Can u mod street cars... is there a career mode... is car leveling the same.... etc etc
AWESOME SETUP AMS2: Quest3, 4090, i9, Router wi-fi 6, VD_Streamer + AV-1 10 bit + turn off Autom. adjust bitrate, VD + Godlike + 72/80/90fps + Bitrate=200 + Disable Spacewarp + disable Color Vibrance, OpenXR Toolkit + CAS=70% + Saturation=55%, Opencomposite
If I ever get divorced I will look into playing these games. Look like a blast
Um, what? LOL
How do you feel about the comfort of the two headset?
Quest 3 feels fine. Just need to make sure you know how so set the strap correctly to be comfortable. PSVR2, I need to wear a bandana under it to be comfortable. Otherwise the nose peace starts to hurt and it was also leaving a mark on my forehead for hours after using it. The bandana has helped a ton with both things.
@@thecasualracinggamer THank you!
I also play both games in VR in my Simrings and on PC with a HP Reverb G2. I think really both games have their place and both games are fantastic. For me Automobilista 2 is the best racing game on the PC which such a huge variaty of cars and tracks. Also GT7 is an absolute beast of a racing game with even more cars and in general is an awesome racing experience.
Had PSVR2 but sent it back (MURA was too bad for me) I did love GT7 and RE:Village, but went to quest PRO (my 6th PC HMD) for wireless PCVR and the racing games there, while not always as detailed car wise as GT7, can run in much higher quality on my PC (RTX3080), higher res, smoother frames AND with Quest Pro there are none of the PSVR2 downsides... zero mura, decent blacks still (local dimming on), and decent colours (Pro has wider colour gamut than Quest 2 or 3). I think Quest Pro on PCVR wireless is the best all rounder for VR right now. PSVR2 is cool if you don't have a fast PC.
I think for $500, Quest 3 is the way to go. I don't see the value for 2x the price with the pro.
Quest pro only cost me £700 (new) and the controllers/charging dock are worth that extra alone. @@thecasualracinggamer QPro is now around £800 or less most places new. I can't do LCD without at least Local Dimming.
I have both and I agree that both headsets are good what one lacks one makes up in another department. And really I never say this one sucks compared to the other. I know what you mean when you say PSVR 2 makes you feel different it just doesn’t have that Meta stink on it like the Quest 3 for me feels almost identical to the Quest2. The PSVR2 has the PS5 and games like GT7 wich Meta doesn’t offer a car game like that. Overall both headsets are good but have some things that make them shine more. Like for you I can see you love GT7 and that alone makes you prefer the PSVR2 it is whatever makes you happy and you identify with. I feel like the PSVR2 is more of a gamer headset than the Quest but Sony just needs more games and they are coming about 19 games are coming in the coming months so that’s great.
Sony definitely needs to show more support for their headset, and racing games were made for VR but just having GT7 makes the headset worth it someone like me. For other VR style games where you walk around and move, wireless is an unbeatable experience.
I bought the PSVR2 exclusively for GT7 but I was really the new WRC would support it as well 😢. Sony needs a AAA release on it or it will remain a third class citizen in their portfolio.
You should give us your specs on the your PC that you used the Quest 3 on.
I thought I did. I know I did on my previous Quest 3 vids. It's an RTX 3080, i7 10th gen ans 32GB of RAM.
@@thecasualracinggamercant remember what video graphics you used for acc. And the hz?
Who cares which is better?! Both will blow your mind !!!
True, but a lot of people do care, but I think my end result was in line with what you said.
There is a difference, and there should be a comparison for the sake of company competition. Otherwise, they wouldn't try to improve. The opinion of trying to keep everything pc is Bull-krap
I have the original Quest with a Frankenquest setup as well as the PSVR2. I never had an issue with the quests resolution but the comfort is just terrible. The beauty of the PSVR2 is the comfort and the ability to just plug it in and it works perfectly. The sweet spot is narrow for sure but once you are actually racing it all goes away.
We need a PS5 Pro to truly take advantage of the PSVR2 hardware and or native PC support.
PS5 pro will only be better for VR if devs actually update their game to take advantage of it. I feel like we should have at least seen an update for VR in GT7 but there has been nothing since release months ago.
They have been too busy adding tracks... ;)
@@thecasualracinggamer
What pushes me away from psvr2 (in GT7)is the world scale. No one mention this but you just need to try Automobilista, iRacing.. even ACC with shitty vr graphics, and you’re blown away by the size of a real super car overtaking you. It’s not easy to explain if people haven’t try both, but after playing on the Pc, the cars in GT7 don’t impress me.
I guess that’s why people say that if you want to get competitive times, you need to stay away from VR. The VR usually makes you faster cause you have a better sense of distance and can attack the apex more accurately. But in GT7 VR, due to this slightly smaller world scale, it’s not an advantage.
the ps5vr is the only headset i ever tried. its not that i didnt like it but.. i heard alot about blurryness, sweetspot problems and screendoor effect over the years with vr, which always kept me from buying one and well, i get told this is third gen, try it, itsss soo much better and i did. saw screendoor effect on bright textures, sweetspot was narrow and 40% of the time, everything felt out of focus that not dead center of my vision. its not that i was disappointed, more that i thought, all of those things were a thing of the past nowadays.. no iam hasitant, because vr atm seem to be only in 2 camps: enthusiast or standalone. so eighter pay 500 bucks or pay 1500, nothing in between and the quest 3... some people say: no screendoor effect, others say, its still there but you have to expect that with every headset, thats not pimax, big screen or aero
I think to many people overhyped PSVR2. It definitely has it's faults and it was not the greatest new headset to release like many reviewers would have had you believing. If you have your expectations in check, you can enjoy it. As for Quest 3. If you have a high end PC, it will be sharp from edge to edge. On PSVR2, it's the OLED screen and the filter they use that gives it a dirty look in the lenses. The Quest 3 with its LCD panel does not have that. Any screen door effect you migh see is so minor its practically not there.
thx for the response. would you say the screendoor effect is less visible on the quest 3 compared to the ps5vr? because if read people say, that due to the extremly good lenses on the quest, you notice SDE more then on older headsets, because the screen is so sharp. well, pc is a 13600k with a 4080, so i guess that shoul work, tho foveated rendering is always the better option. i just wanna buy a headset, that i can treat like a moitor: buy a good one and keep it for several years, since theres no real jump made thats worth the extra money. also a thing about FOV, my gut says: a smaler fov only becomes a problem, if youre used to wider one. like having used the index for years. but if you have nothing to compared it against, it will never looked tight/bad/narrow.@@thecasualracinggamer
There is practically no noticeable screen door effect on the Quest 3 would be any where near distracting. PSVR2 has that dirty screen look trying to combat the screen door of OLED. You don't have any of that on the Quest 3.
i ask because ive read many people say: quest 3 has more visable SDE then the quest 2 because the lenses are so clean so that if SDE on quest 2 is already too much for you, then q3 will be worse. Tyriel Wood - VR Tech said the same, but i have no clue on how much eye vs camera makes a difference in that case@@thecasualracinggamer
I saw his video. The clarity on the Quest 3 is incredible and will emerse you in more than any SDE will distract you from it. No matter how you slice it, it looks better than the Quest 2. I would take clarity over blurriness any day and we are not talking SDE like we saw on the Quest 1. To me, it's a non-issue on the Quest 3, but everyone is different.
Will you be picking up Forza Motorsport on PC? I couldn’t get Gran Turismo because I don’t have a PS5 but I did get Motorsport partly because of this channel lol you make racing sim games look fun and interesting
I have thought about it, but not having VR support is such a hard sell for me.
As soon as there are games like GT7 that have a ton of car mods and a good career mode, I'll buy a PC and Quest 3...
Do you need a PC to play Automobilista 2 on the Quest 3?
Yes. The only full racing game on the Quest 3 standalone is GRID LEGENDS.
How much the quest 3 cost??
$500 USD for 128GB version.
when will GT7 come to PC?
If it's more than just rumors, it will be amazing if it comes to PC, but no one really knows for sure right now. If it comes with VR support, it will be incredible. If not, I won't be playing on PC if it were to come.
The McLeran mp4 in automobilista 2 I strongly recommend giving it a go if you have the content. Heel and toe that 5 speed through corners in vr will put a smile on you’re face for sure
I can't heel and toe. I'm just a casual racer. 🤣
@@thecasualracinggamer 😂😂 casual racer here as well. Picked it up from dr 2.0
@@thecasualracinggamerlol
I’m just curious why people even talk about Sonys product when the only driving game it works with is gt7. And it’s a simcade… I’m going pc soon, just so I can use a vr system that allows me to actually use it on countless games as to just gt7…
Call it what you want, but it's still a great racing game. For PC, I basically bought my VR headset for one game (iRacing) even though there were more to choose from.
The let down on GT7 for me is the really bad AI. Went back to PC VR and AMS2 because AMS2 is written for VR. Already was in Pcars2. So PSVR2 was great, but GT7’s AI is not. I buy the Quest 3 only for AMS2 in VR. Yeah €3500 or €1000 is a big difference. But I’m a SP guy and not a MP. So I need a good AI.
Yes, AI is bad in GT7. Even their better Sophy AI isn't great.
خير الكلام ما قل ودل :)
This guy works for meta
That would be weird considering 99% of my videos for the past 6 months have been on PSVR2. 🤷♂️
Quest 3 looks sharper because you have a high end gaming pc driving it instead of a $500 console. But if Sony doesn't get their shit together and start taking vr serious I'll be looking at pc vr and Quest 3 or more likely Pimax Crystal. I hope Jim Ryan leaving will be a change for the better.
PS5 is way more powerful then the price suggests. PSVR2 also has an advantage of eye tracking and foveated rendering. I actually think PD can do better with the game and improve the clarity by trying to reach 90Hz natively and get rid of the 60Hz reprojection.
lol pcvr on no man sky runs like garbage lol 😂
@@kingscorpion26m that's really too bad. I stopped playing it because it is so menu intensive which just does not work for me in vr, great game though.
@@kingscorpion26myep,i was surprised how good it looks and runs on psvr2 though
Bro with respect no hate slow down your talking so fast and I'm English but the issue is the inconsistencies I'm guessing your trying to slow down maybe? Because one moment you speak normal speed then it's like my connection cuts then catches up and you speak really really fast so much so I tried restarting the TV lol. Just constructive criticism ❤
Psvr2 ghosting simulator, also you can record video only using Q3
You can record stand alone VR through the headset, not sure if that works for PCVR?
@@thecasualracinggamer works on Virtual desktop
I use a link cable for my sim racing.
$3K PC vs ps5 not really fair, amazing that GT7 just as good
Well, my PC was almost half that price but yeah, PS5 with PSVR2 gives a lot for $1,000 total cost.
Awesome video mate 👍 I don't think eye tracking is in GT7, example when you're in menu looking for a car you need to turn your head and look straight to make it clear but when I play horizon call of the mountain or pavlov every where you look is clear and you cant trick it because it's that fast yes it's a bit blurry in your peripheral vision but not that bad.I hope Polyphony enable eye tracking at some time.
Eye tracking only works in VR
@rugga oh yeah that's right it won't work on the menu anyway 😂silly me.
You can definitely see it working when in race. If you move your head quickly, you will sometimes see the blur and then it clears up.
@thecasualracinggamer foveated rendering works faster than your eyes and brain can perceive, you can't trick it.
@rugga depending where your eyes are looking and your peripheral vision, you can definitely make it out at times, especially on text while in race.
Try changing the sharpening in AMS 2 . Is game changer for VR . The setting is in Documents->Automobilista2-> graphicsconfigoculusdx1 1 file
At the bottom of that file you will see the following settings.
prop name="SharpeningStrength"
v
sharpeningstrength="0.000000" />
< prop name="SharpeningClamp"
sharpeningclamp="0.090000" />
< prop name="OffsetBias" offsetbias="1.000000" />
Change the sharpeningstrength="0.000000" to 1.000000 .
I can't imaging the game looking sharper then it already does! Do you also have link sharpening set to Quality in the debug tool?
Yes he is right. Hard to believe but it goes sharper with these Setting. Alot! Maybe a little bit to much....😅
@@thecasualracinggamerI agree. Used quality in the Oculus debug tool. It’s already pin sharp. It couldn’t go any sharper. I think it would look a bit over sharp lol
Does this affect performance if you change this?
@@richwatson1985 I doesn't.
It sounds like you have a bias in this video. You really wanna like GT7 so it seems that's getting in your way.
No bias. Everyone's wants will be different. When it comes to PC Sim Racing though, iRacing is really the game I love.
It's the fresnel lenses on psvr2 causing that lack of "crispness". Not the oleds
You can get a sharp picture with fresnel lenses.
And the winner is : Assetto corsa with a HP reverb G2 !
by far...
Lots of people are saying Quest 3 is replacing their G2. I don't have a G2 so can't speak to it.
As for AC, only if you want to spend the time modding it to get the full advantage of the game. For anyone who just wants to pick something up and race, it's definitely not the best choice.
@@thecasualracinggamer It takes me ONE second to select from my dozens of preset race/trackday the one I want to use.
Modding AC (with content manager of course) is so easy I don't understand where is the problem, because, the more important, ALWAYS the more important, it's how much pleasure and fun you've got from your sim session.
Installing a car or a car pack and a track takes you a bunch of seconds.
But the more important is what you are going to do with this : to be able to set up the combo exactly as you want.
Not only you do this to the perfection with AC (including weather events, night and day etc etc etc) but also, once you are happy with it, you just have to save it to call it back later in ONE clic, and modify it in some seconds.
I'm NOT a modder, I'm a big fan of vintages race cars.
And modders makes THOUSANDS of cars and tracks for me (and everyone, of course) to install in some seconds.
To makes me just "pick something and race" (or practice, hotlap etc etc etc) closer to the real things as you can't get in any other racing game in the world.
You can't talk about "simracing" about GranTurismo, I'm sorry, it's a (good) game (but) quite far from a driving simulator like Assetto Corsa...
But I can say remplacing a G2 by a Q3 is quite strange, as you downgrade your hardware and the quality of your experience... not onlyG2 have more pixels (few, but more, just check it...), but also much better colors and brightness, for the same price than the Q3.
@@cladecqdisagree I’m afraid. When ac works fine it’s great with a cool modded car/track however it is defo not what I’d call easy or fast. I’ve wasted too much of my life installing stuff to make it better and then something doesn’t work with that version of Sol. Or I’ll come back to it a week later and something doesn’t work quite right. PC2 and AMS2 just work right out of the box and visually look the best in vr. Ac is a love hate relationship for me.
Also a quest 3 is not a downgrade from a g2. It might have ever so slightly more resolution but the sweet spot compared to the new pancake lenses and wider fov makes the experience far better
Assetto Corsa is terrible in VR.
I will wait for the pimax 12k and a 5090 for new gpu
Gt7 hands down!
Probably requires 3000$ pc to play that. Gt7 ftw
About $1,000 or a little more to high.
True but you fail to realize a ps5 is barely an rtx 2070/2070. proper assetto corsa mods on rtx 2070 can keep up with gt7.
$1000 for 1 racing game isn't worth it not even tho Gran Turismo is my 1st game as a child.
GT3 cars should feel different than driving a road vehicle. Let's not fool ourselves. GT7 has around 700 cars and physics where more or less the cars feel very similar. Quite normal for this quantity. Who should have the time to translate all of this exactly? You need specialists for this. Money is less important here than personal dedication and perfection. One patch after another for AMS2 has been released every month for 3 years. Sony couldn't do that with its customers who want a final product on the day it goes on sale. But that's not how simulations work. Be it IRacing, Assetto Corsa, Lfs, Ectect....all patching and patching and patching. With giants like Gt7 and Forza there are at best 3-5 patches in the entire life phase. And most of these paths have nothing to do with force feedback or physics... A small, tight-knit team with around 50 cars and continuous monthly patches achieves significantly more than a heavy giant with 700 cars. Yes, AMS2 is a simulation at least twice as good as GT7. But if you want to own “all” the cars in the world and have a lot of playful freedom and game modes, then Gt7 clearly wins. Here you simply have to admit in a direct comparison. Quantity versus quality.
Good points.
Gt7 Arcade game😂
Unless you re having a 4090, you can't get that clarity you claimed through all the video with the q3, just because it s not native resolution.
Um, I see it with my own 2 eyes. The clarity is crazy good.
Well, the new pancake lenses improve the field of view clarity considerably VS the Quest 2 without having to increase the resolution.
@@JBBost i have been searching and testing for years now, it s obvious you have never tested the g2 or even the pico neo 3 link with displayport, these are crisp clear especially at the distance for far object . The quest two or even the quest suffer from the same problem, the compression that makes everything at the distance blurry , However if you want to stick to pancake lenses than the pico 4 is better than the quest 3 for pcvr, with better binocular overlap . Anyway i am pretty sur you re a meta fanboy and i don't,t want to deal with this kind of person anymore .
Iv got g2 and quest 3 and use the quest 3 only now as its just as sharp as g2 but with better edge to edge clarity.there can be compression problems over cable but i play wireless and its perfect
Can't compare consoles to PCs
Sure you can. Next Gen Consoles have legit power for true sim games.
Yo, so im have psvr2 ps5, and im bout to get high end pc, cos psvr2 support is a fkin crap, where r the assetto? F1? Dirt? VR...whats the price of pc to play vr big games on ultra settings? Cos sony lossing my respect, they dont give a fak bout psvr2 users...n colored bullshitty games, or port from years ago r not what im looking for
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So, thats the cost of pc without headset(?)...if I would sell ps5 n psvr2 that money would be nearly enough to get it, Ive got wheel so dont need buy another one
You are probably looking at around $1,700 to $2,000 for a full RTX3080 setup. Plus $500 for the headset.
@JBBost The price I am stating is for a completely new desktop setup that includes an RTX3080 GPU and i7 CPU, not just a GPU by itself. Of course new and not someone building something with all used parts.
PSVR2 hasn't even been out for 8 months yet and we already have 4 major exclusives. Your expectations are completely unrealistic. Have some patience and more big hitters will come.
No psvr2 looks bad looks like a trauma team helmet from cyberpunk. psvr2 is the one that looks like a prototype not the quest.
$1000 for 1 racing game isn't worth it . Even though Gran Turismo is my 1st game as a child.
$1,000 for a sim racing game that has a replay value more than most other games. Makes you feel like you are in the actual car and race and allows you to use a wheel and pedals. It sounds worth it to me!
@@thecasualracinggamer For 1 game? really? I'm looking at my gt sport and psvr1 now and not only is it old it's also obsolete servers are closing. since you also need *sub to play online* my hundreds of dollars paid to play online and sony couldn't even keep the servers online for atleast 8-10yrs. Not worth it.
@subjewgater4276 GT Sport was more like a demo of a VR game where GT7 is the entire game in VR. Hard to compare the two and the VR quality between them aren't even close.
@@thecasualracinggamer That example was not comparing the vr quality.
I'm simply anticipating the support for servers since it is *subscription* based.
doesn't negate my point that this set up isn't "future proof".
gt sport is newer than ac/etc but it's obsolete now because ps is a closed ecosystem reliant on subscription and sony servers. the same will happen to gt7. not worth the obfuscated cost.