Wanted to switch things up a bit and do a video about these two units as I haven’t seen a video on RUclips comparing PVS-15’s directly to DTNVG’s. At the end of the day, choosing one or the other depends on what features you like the most for your application. With that said, encourage you guys to check out Sam Houston’s channel called Silent Solutions here on RUclips if you’re wanting to learn the complete ins-and-outs night vision and technical information. Some other great channels I recommend would definitely be Kinetic Consulting, Nitewalker, and J.W. Ramp. Tons of awesome vids and really good dudes.
NITEWALKER Thanks homie. I really like the 15’s DEP glass. It’s awesome, which is why the L3 white phosphor tubes in the DTNVG’s are being transplanted into the PVS-15’s. If you ever get a chance to mess with 15’s with DEP glass and quality of tubes, do it. I would say it’s even better than ANVIS, imo.
Amazing video as always g! I especially appreciate the comparison of the difference in weight, especially as any amount of weight-savings drastically matters when donning the device on a helmet setup; since, most dudes just fire static on a flat range. The practicality of having something weigh less avoids you spending $200-300 vworth of helmet upgrades like the suspension and padding, to keep the device from shifting during high intensity or excessive movement (even like shoulder transition or rifle-to-pistol). Badass vid
MythicUSA Thank you for the kind words, man. I can’t really talk about weight savings too much, my Airframe has a handful of stuff on it currently, but that’s also why I use the 4D Tactical Deluxe Pads and Team Wendy CamFit and understand that there are people out there who are very conscious about helmet/nods weight. Speaking of, I’m really hoping to secure an AOR2 LBH soon, though. Keep your eyes peeled for me. Specifically size XL.
For the pvs15s, is there anyway to mess with it to make it articulate more or have a lower profile? I dismount from vehicles all the time and worry about them catching on the door frame or a wire all the time.
So, that is definitely one of the drawbacks to the PVS-15; their short range of articulation. I have liked to call them “partially articulating” because of it. It’s definitely enough to keep them flipped down and swiveled away from your eyes, but doesn’t do all that much when in the stowed position. Still a great goggle, and one of my all time favorites, though.
You’re not wrong. This vid was made a few years back when 31A’s were restricted and a lot sketchier of a process to get ahold of. Might do a video comparing 1531’s to 31A’s, though.
The Savage It’s impossible to know which I go exactly unless you have the info on the tube. Easiest way to do it is unscrew the rear eyepiece and get the SN and NSN number off the tubes, screw said eyepieces back on and your goggles will be good to go.
Definitely PVS-31A. They’ve got some really, really solid “minimum specs” that they have to achieve factory from L3, they have adjustable/manual gain for different lighting environments, interpupillary distance stops, battery pack, super lightweight, dive rated, etc., etc. Now that you can purchase them with a warranty up to 10 years, they’d definitely be my first pick.
Awesome video!!!! I’m looking at both and really stuck between which one to buy. If u cld only own one which one wld you have? I kno it’s probably a hard question to answer. Thanks.
Jim brown That’s like trying to make me pick my favorite between two kids! Haha. I love them both. If you would’ve asked me a year ago, I might have said DTNVG, now, I might say PVS-15C even though 15’s are now considered a “dated” platform.
Wheelchair Operator well looking at stores inventory my selections are limited. I was thinking a mono and then using a bridge down the road to have the set up
Gucci Tacticool Not a bad idea. That’s what I did. I started off with a 14, got another 14 + bridge, later had the optics and tubes put into an RNVG housing, then upgraded to articulating binos. At least getting a 14 will get your foot in the door.
There are DEP Ether objectives for pvs15/18 as well. The 15 lenses are truly the best tho. And FWIW my ab mod3 binos feel significantly heavier in mine and others hands... than my pvs15. I dont have a scale, but specs say the mod3 weights less, however I feel like its at least a couple oz's heavier than my 15s. (Hmmm) It's not the upgraded beta bridge either, which is even heavier... however I can wear my xl ops core carbon no strap no weight no oc dial just lux liner with pvs15 walking around no troubles. Can not do this with mod3 binos standing still. They drop on the face (pull back of helmet up) almost immediately.
e30ordie Yep. PVS-18 uses the same glass as PVS-15. They’re pretty rad. If I were running a single monocular, that would likely be my first choice. If you ever get around to weighing your Mod3’s, let me know. Do they still make the non-bravos anymore?
@@WheelchairOperator No I highly doubt it. I've had my mod3s for about 5 years now. But between my anvis glass, pvs14, and lastly acquiredly 15s the 15/18 definitely have the best glass with all closely rated tubes. I see the best up close with them, and also at infinity. Even when adjusted to infinity, things that are half way near to you, look considerably more in focus than the pvs14 glass... 😎 Set both to star gaze and then look at a building idk maybe roughly 20ft~ away.. and I think that you'll find that the pvs15 are gonna look more in focus than the pvs14 lens on the dtnvgs.. actual distance could be a little off, I didn't take note, but definitely something I noticed immediately out on the farm😎
Back then these were both roughly 10k each with the L3 white phosphor tubes. Both housings have since been discontinued by their respective manufacturers.
A friend of mine is building PVS15s with omni VIs, single screw shoes. He's going to sell them for $3400-3600. Im thinking that's an offer I can't refuse.
@@WheelchairOperator I have a sneaking suspicion he got the parts so cheap because they may have originated from a certain stan country--but what do I know
@@autisticANDarmed I mean, if they’re Omni VI tubes, they likelihood of them being from sketchy origin is high already anyway. I say do it. Especially at that price point.
Wanted to switch things up a bit and do a video about these two units as I haven’t seen a video on RUclips comparing PVS-15’s directly to DTNVG’s. At the end of the day, choosing one or the other depends on what features you like the most for your application. With that said, encourage you guys to check out Sam Houston’s channel called Silent Solutions here on RUclips if you’re wanting to learn the complete ins-and-outs night vision and technical information. Some other great channels I recommend would definitely be Kinetic Consulting, Nitewalker, and J.W. Ramp. Tons of awesome vids and really good dudes.
Great video 👍👍 I’ve always heard good things about -15 glass but never had the chance to look through one yet.
NITEWALKER Thanks homie. I really like the 15’s DEP glass. It’s awesome, which is why the L3 white phosphor tubes in the DTNVG’s are being transplanted into the PVS-15’s. If you ever get a chance to mess with 15’s with DEP glass and quality of tubes, do it. I would say it’s even better than ANVIS, imo.
You can make a slipknot out of shock cord and slip it around the dovetail of the DTNVGs to tie them down.
Very true.
Amazing video as always g! I especially appreciate the comparison of the difference in weight, especially as any amount of weight-savings drastically matters when donning the device on a helmet setup; since, most dudes just fire static on a flat range. The practicality of having something weigh less avoids you spending $200-300 vworth of helmet upgrades like the suspension and padding, to keep the device from shifting during high intensity or excessive movement (even like shoulder transition or rifle-to-pistol). Badass vid
MythicUSA Thank you for the kind words, man. I can’t really talk about weight savings too much, my Airframe has a handful of stuff on it currently, but that’s also why I use the 4D Tactical Deluxe Pads and Team Wendy CamFit and understand that there are people out there who are very conscious about helmet/nods weight. Speaking of, I’m really hoping to secure an AOR2 LBH soon, though. Keep your eyes peeled for me. Specifically size XL.
pvs 15s are a classic i love it
Schrodingers_Gat I’m starting to really like the 15’s.
I agree... there’s just something about the 15s
Memories
Great video brother! I’ll get up to the night vision level one day very informational comparison keep the videos coming!
Thanks homie! Let’s go shoot soon!
Sounds like each has its merits. Thank you for the information!
Thanks for watching! 🙌🏼
For the pvs15s, is there anyway to mess with it to make it articulate more or have a lower profile? I dismount from vehicles all the time and worry about them catching on the door frame or a wire all the time.
So, that is definitely one of the drawbacks to the PVS-15; their short range of articulation. I have liked to call them “partially articulating” because of it. It’s definitely enough to keep them flipped down and swiveled away from your eyes, but doesn’t do all that much when in the stowed position. Still a great goggle, and one of my all time favorites, though.
I wish I could afford a set great job Explaining the differences between the two models great job
Willie Bulletman Thanks man.
Great video man. Info I was looking for
Thanks dude. I’m glad I could help out.
Merry Christmas to you🎄🎁 🤙🏼
I think a fairer comparison would be the 31a’s to the dtnvg’s instead of the pvs15’s
You’re not wrong. This vid was made a few years back when 31A’s were restricted and a lot sketchier of a process to get ahold of. Might do a video comparing 1531’s to 31A’s, though.
Are gen 3 pvs-15s w/ omni 7 or 8 tubes for 5-6k a good deal?
ZzBiohazzardzZ seems to be about the average price right now for green Omni 7’s and 8’s. Do you have the spec sheet?
Great contrast and comparison!
Rick Tenter Thanks man!
Great Video, lots of good information for helping me decide what I might want.
MaximusPrime131 Glad you enjoyed it
My pvs15s have MX10160/UV tubes. Do you know what Omni that is? And I don’t wanna open them up to find out haha
The Savage It’s impossible to know which I go exactly unless you have the info on the tube. Easiest way to do it is unscrew the rear eyepiece and get the SN and NSN number off the tubes, screw said eyepieces back on and your goggles will be good to go.
Wheelchair Operator o ok sounds good haha
DTNVS vs PVS31A vs Eotech BNVD (all white phosphor) which do I pick?
Definitely PVS-31A. They’ve got some really, really solid “minimum specs” that they have to achieve factory from L3, they have adjustable/manual gain for different lighting environments, interpupillary distance stops, battery pack, super lightweight, dive rated, etc., etc. Now that you can purchase them with a warranty up to 10 years, they’d definitely be my first pick.
Awesome video!!!!
I’m looking at both and really stuck between which one to buy. If u cld only own one which one wld you have? I kno it’s probably a hard question to answer. Thanks.
Jim brown That’s like trying to make me pick my favorite between two kids! Haha. I love them both. If you would’ve asked me a year ago, I might have said DTNVG, now, I might say PVS-15C even though 15’s are now considered a “dated” platform.
Jim brown At the end of the day, it comes down to user preferences and which features you like more than others when choosing between these two.
Thanks for the upload, informative I am currently shopping for myself
Gucci Tacticool Glad you liked it dude. Thank you for watching. What set of nods are you thinking about getting?
Wheelchair Operator well looking at stores inventory my selections are limited. I was thinking a mono and then using a bridge down the road to have the set up
Gucci Tacticool Not a bad idea. That’s what I did. I started off with a 14, got another 14 + bridge, later had the optics and tubes put into an RNVG housing, then upgraded to articulating binos. At least getting a 14 will get your foot in the door.
There are DEP Ether objectives for pvs15/18 as well. The 15 lenses are truly the best tho. And FWIW my ab mod3 binos feel significantly heavier in mine and others hands... than my pvs15. I dont have a scale, but specs say the mod3 weights less, however I feel like its at least a couple oz's heavier than my 15s. (Hmmm) It's not the upgraded beta bridge either, which is even heavier... however I can wear my xl ops core carbon no strap no weight no oc dial just lux liner with pvs15 walking around no troubles. Can not do this with mod3 binos standing still. They drop on the face (pull back of helmet up) almost immediately.
e30ordie Yep. PVS-18 uses the same glass as PVS-15. They’re pretty rad. If I were running a single monocular, that would likely be my first choice. If you ever get around to weighing your Mod3’s, let me know. Do they still make the non-bravos anymore?
@@WheelchairOperator No I highly doubt it. I've had my mod3s for about 5 years now. But between my anvis glass, pvs14, and lastly acquiredly 15s the 15/18 definitely have the best glass with all closely rated tubes. I see the best up close with them, and also at infinity. Even when adjusted to infinity, things that are half way near to you, look considerably more in focus than the pvs14 glass... 😎 Set both to star gaze and then look at a building idk maybe roughly 20ft~ away.. and I think that you'll find that the pvs15 are gonna look more in focus than the pvs14 lens on the dtnvgs.. actual distance could be a little off, I didn't take note, but definitely something I noticed immediately out on the farm😎
How much are they bro
Back then these were both roughly 10k each with the L3 white phosphor tubes. Both housings have since been discontinued by their respective manufacturers.
Nice review, but a tube comparison would’ve been extremely useful. 👍
There’s a tube comparison on my channel 🤘🏼
A friend of mine is building PVS15s with omni VIs, single screw shoes. He's going to sell them for $3400-3600. Im thinking that's an offer I can't refuse.
Absolutely buy those. That’s a crazy good deal.
@@WheelchairOperator I have a sneaking suspicion he got the parts so cheap because they may have originated from a certain stan country--but what do I know
@@autisticANDarmed I mean, if they’re Omni VI tubes, they likelihood of them being from sketchy origin is high already anyway. I say do it. Especially at that price point.
Watch before you buy? I’ll take it up a notch “I will watch and not buy”
Hahaha!! I totally forgot I made this video until just now! 💀