Man i was just saying yesterday how I couldn't find much about IP stops and here you are with a great demo and explanation. Thanks for the informative videos keep up the great work!
Yet another fantastic video, it’s uncanny how you always do a great job covering the equipment or subject matters I’m most interested in...Can’t wait to see your next one. Thanks for staying on top of things!
I think these are the best looking goggles. The housing is simple and sleek. I'd personally just prefer Manual Gain and have the option to run a battery pack.
Have enjoyed your videos for the last year or so it seems. Very good information. Thank you for touching on all of the crucial points. I was concerned initially upon hearing there was no manual gain. Feeling much better after hearing your opinion about it in regards to binocular systems. Great stuff man! I can see why TNVC wanted ya.
@@Ammonymity1776 Still cheaper than a DTNVS and it comes with IPD stops. Also lighter at 17.76 oz with Carson glass. I just got one built with filmless 24ua tubes for $11k by Alex Max on the facebook Night Vision Groups. I have two videos of my nods on my channel, super crispy handpicked 24ua filmless tubes.
That’s an Ops-Core FAST mesh cover but they are discontinued and wouldn’t fit right since it’s for a high cut helmet. We have Ops-Core covers for the FAST SFC and also Agilite Gen 4 covers at www.TNVC.com Make sure to select the super high cut option
On TNVC website, they offer the L3Harris PVS14 and the TNVC PVS14. I am considering the WH PHOS. What are the differences between the two PVS14s. Could you do a video describing the differences or distinctions. Thks
Well rounded video. I just ordered as set of the DTNVS and can't wait for them to arrive! I'm just contemplating whether or not the IPD stops are worth spending $599 CAD on or not. Likely going to run the goggles without the stops for a bit and see if I find it problematic at all.
I have the IPD stops on mine, and to be quite honest, I don't use them anymore. Unless you put on your helmet in the exact same spot every time, you're going to have to either shift your helmet slightly to get that 'perfect' eye box, or adjust the pods ever so slightly. After playing with mines for almost a year now, it's actually just easier and faster to use it w/o the IPDs.
We do have the MG up on the TNVC website. I’ll do a video whenever I get a chance to spend some time with one. I’ve used it a little. I’m not a big fan of the knob as it doesn’t have much tension but once you get used it it vs say how an L3 31A knob works it’s no big deal
If you got data records with it, it’ll say what format it is the “type” line at the top of the sheet. If they are 11769, as long as they were done correctly, which is pretty easy with L3H tubes, they will work fine. The ports where the EGAC was pulled out should get plugs put into them so they’re not wide open for debris to possibly get inside.
mines had that too. From what I've read, it's very common in the DTNVS. However, there is a 'fix'. I sent it back to TNVC and they shaved/trimmed down the light pipes and all is good now.
My buddy is selling an old Litton m942 for $400, do you think that is a good purchase for me? I was thinking about using the tube out of it to build a pvs14 but I’m not sure about the tube compatibility though. Thank you
I think that’s a fair price if it’s a clean tube with no blems. It should drop right in but the gain control on the -14 won’t work since the tube doesn’t have gain control
@@thesavage6484 Even with an A zone blemish that's an absolute steal. Definitely buy it. No wait, don't buy it and send me your buddy's contact and I'LL buy it. lol
Just ordered the dtnvs with photonis echo tubes. Not sure if people are modifying the pigtails for those to get them to work with dtnvs, or does that only apply to L3/Harris/Elbit tubes?
Thank you for pointing out 10160 vs 11769 Tubes. Just one question: Why does the connector to be modified: I imagene a simplier solution like an adapter, or a socket that just has 2 out of the 3 connector pinned. By this, a 10160 housing could use 11769 Tubes, rendering the owner of the tube more versatile: If he can from than on put 11769 into every device. As this "idea" is not hard to think about, I guess there will be an answer as why this isnt offered on a regular basis already? I would appreciate your comment. As always: Great content TNVC and its Staff is producing! Thanks again
The goggle itself needs to have the electronics to support gain control. Adding gain control functionality adds complexity and cost. It’s much easier to make autogain housings that uses 10160 tubes.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION Nevermind: I didnt know L3 Tubes from 2012 on have a removable pigtail, so the 10160 and 11769 are pratictly the same, one is shipped with the pigtail installed and the other not. Both can be modified with adding a pigtail or removing it, as far as I understood your and Kinetic Consultings content regarding this topic. Thanks again!
@@sauerkraud You bet. Just keep in mind that removing the pig tails voids the factory warranty (2 years) and will void any additional warranty offered by dealers.
I’m sure it’s possible for Act in Black to do, however, I doubt they would offer it as an option because the overwhelming majority want the auto off feature.
Mine finally arrived! White Phos from TNVG. They say some "peppering" is acceptable, and common, but dang it really does bug me. I got a set in zone 2 on the right, and three smaller dots in zone 2 and zone 3 on the left. They said I could have specified cleaner tubes, but I thought hat went without being said. Do you have any "peppering" on yours? thank you
Thanks for the information! One additional thing I can add for people looking at the DTNVS in regards to the unit "turning off/on" when it rotates up... If you have them up and turned off (knob off) and then turn them on (knob on) the tubes will turn on for a half second, be careful. :) Can you make a video on the 1531 now that they are avail?
I was going to ask you a question on previous video,but you might not have seen it so I ask it here. Does AB Night vision battery pack work on GPNVG-18?
Basically yes, however actual 10160 tubes will generally have a lower maximum gain. The term auto gain is kind of misleading in terms of what it does. It’s just the ABC (automatic brightness control) that all tubes have. With your -14s on a bright moon night if you’ve ever noticed them dim when going from dark to bright, that’s the ABC, so that’s how the DTNVS will perform. 👍
Why? The night is 12 hours. The goggles power on by a single cr123 battery. The batt pack is how long and how much weight + cables that will snag. Just put on a extra 2 pounds and say you did
It was mentioned on a video by Kinetic Consulting on RUclips, military grade night vision, you'll be inline with the military & other govt agencies, if/when you need service/repairs accomplished.
Hi Nitewalker, quick question. I'm new to the night vision arena and I watched a shit ton of your vids and other channels before finally making a purchase. I ended up getting the PVS 14 Photonis Echo white phosphor. Very pleased with it's performance. Here's my question. Upon using them for only the fourth time, the tube burned out on me. I stored them in a hard shell case with the battery out and only used them at night and never pointed them at any bright lights. The dealer I purchased from was super quick in trading me out for a new monocular, but now I'm super nervous about using them. How fragile are these night vision devices? Can far away street lamps cause a tube to burn out? The night it actually burned out was pitch dark, not even a street lamp, but the other nights there were far away lights and an occasional vehicle passing by in the distance. The dealer had to take my word for it that I wasn't a dumbass using it in daylight, but still, I can't help but wonder if I did something wrong? Anyway, I really appreciate all your videos. I know it's a lot of work editing and uploading them for us to watch. You the man.
It’s very rare for tubes to just die. What might have happened and I’m curious if they actually swapped out the tube, is that tube lock ring inside the housing pops loose, and the tube looses contact with the electrical connections from the battery compartment. That can happen by dropping it or if whoever assembled it threaded it incorrectly. In either case, they got you squared away which is the important thing. Don’t worry about hurting it from regular use. Modern tubes are pretty tough. Don’t shine lasers into them, stare at bright lights for too long, don’t leave it turned on if you’re not using it, don’t use alkaline batteries or leave the battery inside when storing it. 👍
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION I really appreciate your reply. I never dropped it and when it burned out I literally watched a burn hole appear top right, fairly large, subtle popping sound, and then within few seconds the glowing screen faded to black and that was a wrap. I was using the AA alkaline battery that shipped with it, but I'll pick up some AA lithiums and use them from now on. Yeah, the company was super awesome and quick about sending me a new tube, which made the whole experience less stressful. Keep rocking the awesome vids man! Thanks again.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION I know right? I had my phone out and was planning on filming through it right when it occurred. I managed to take three still pics of what the burn looked like before it went black, but not enough time to video record it.
Quad tubes in terms of total performance & ability to see the best/most at night. However, for the money the GPNVG costs, you can buy L3Harris BNVD (aka PVS-31A) with high spec 2376+ minimum FOM and a whole bunch more toys for the cost of one GPNVG. IMO, the GPNVG is for the high end buyer who likely already has a ton of night vision gear and the GPNVG adds to the collection.
@@operatorstryker9865 Are Harder tubes available in the us? We can't get the american stuff in europe due to export restrictions but it would be nice to see a comparison between top end Harder tubes and the americans.
Speaking about tube selection. I wanted to get a pair of DTNVS but couldn’t decide between (Photonis Echo+ white phosphorus) or (Photonis 4G white Phosphorus) I need someone’s opinion PLEASE
@@justincasey Same here I put tubes before housing. Where I’m buying at for the same tube you buy for a DTNVG cost 2000$ more in a DTNVS. I had to get DTNVS cause they have no other night vision in stock. RNVG might have good quality tubes but I’m a sucker for articulating nods🤤
@@djeemetryphebe4303 Completely agree about articulating nods. nightgoggles.com has DTNVS's for $7k. Just orderered a pair today, you need to be on their emailing list. They sell out b4 getting posted online.
Definitely. Tubes are the most important thing. But if you want an articulating goggle this is the way to go. Otherwise the RNVG is a lower cost bomb proof goggle
@Wayward Airsoft TNVC state's the new drop test for the DTNVS's is 2 meters, instead of 1 meter like for the DTNVG's. Not saying the DTNVG's couldn't pass as well, but dropping from 6 feet & they still work fine? That's gotta be built like a tank.
Man i was just saying yesterday how I couldn't find much about IP stops and here you are with a great demo and explanation. Thanks for the informative videos keep up the great work!
Right on and thanks 🤙
Yet another fantastic video, it’s uncanny how you always do a great job covering the equipment or subject matters I’m most interested in...Can’t wait to see your next one. Thanks for staying on top of things!
Nice units! Good to know TNVC offers such an extended warranty.
Love the videos man hope you’re doing good at the new job
Thanks brother sincerely appreciate it. It’s going great. 👍
I think these are the best looking goggles. The housing is simple and sleek. I'd personally just prefer Manual Gain and have the option to run a battery pack.
Have enjoyed your videos for the last year or so it seems. Very good information. Thank you for touching on all of the crucial points. I was concerned initially upon hearing there was no manual gain. Feeling much better after hearing your opinion about it in regards to binocular systems. Great stuff man! I can see why TNVC wanted ya.
You keep pumping out all the good stuff!
Thanks brother 🤙
I just saw how much these cost, after waking up from passing out I realized I also shit myself
😂
Check out the UANVB Katana from Nocturn Industries, similar to DTNVS but lighter with built-in IPD stops for $1700.
@@LoopyChef95 lol. Yeah, for the housing. Not for the optics.
@@Ammonymity1776 Still cheaper than a DTNVS and it comes with IPD stops. Also lighter at 17.76 oz with Carson glass. I just got one built with filmless 24ua tubes for $11k by Alex Max on the facebook Night Vision Groups.
I have two videos of my nods on my channel, super crispy handpicked 24ua filmless tubes.
🤣🤣🤣 now I’ve just pissed myself laughing
*Works great, comfortable too*
I like how they look.
I agree. I think it’s a great looking goggle 👍
Awesome video!!! Thanks for taking the time to put it up.
Best video about this out there. Thank you very much.
🤙
Best close up video yet most complete too
Are these compatible with the E-coti?
I had PVS-31's issued with the E-coti, and loved the set up, but the bridge on these just looks way more durable
Yes, and it requires the ECOTI PVS-14 bracket
Great video! Can’t wait to get mine in hand!
What helmet cover was that. I need a cover for my opscore fast sf carbon bump
That’s an Ops-Core FAST mesh cover but they are discontinued and wouldn’t fit right since it’s for a high cut helmet. We have Ops-Core covers for the FAST SFC and also Agilite Gen 4 covers at www.TNVC.com
Make sure to select the super high cut option
Thanks for another great video!
On TNVC website, they offer the L3Harris PVS14 and the TNVC PVS14. I am considering the WH PHOS. What are the differences between the two PVS14s. Could you do a video describing the differences or distinctions. Thks
Well rounded video. I just ordered as set of the DTNVS and can't wait for them to arrive! I'm just contemplating whether or not the IPD stops are worth spending $599 CAD on or not. Likely going to run the goggles without the stops for a bit and see if I find it problematic at all.
I’d just run it without for that price to be honest
I have the IPD stops on mine, and to be quite honest, I don't use them anymore. Unless you put on your helmet in the exact same spot every time, you're going to have to either shift your helmet slightly to get that 'perfect' eye box, or adjust the pods ever so slightly. After playing with mines for almost a year now, it's actually just easier and faster to use it w/o the IPDs.
Nice upgrade over the dtnvg
It's nice that you explain stuff, but when you gesture with the thing I try to look at, it becomes hard to see the thing.
Lol, I’m a hand talker. I’ll remember for the next one
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION You can just mount the camera on the device ;P
Are you going to have the manual gain Dtnvs on or would that be redundant?
We do have the MG up on the TNVC website. I’ll do a video whenever I get a chance to spend some time with one. I’ve used it a little. I’m not a big fan of the knob as it doesn’t have much tension but once you get used it it vs say how an L3 31A knob works it’s no big deal
Going to take a look at 1531s anytime soon?
Nothing anytime soon
I have DTNVS with 20um tubes so 11769. Sounds like I have no warranty. Will I see any performance issues? Will my automatic gain control work?
If you got data records with it, it’ll say what format it is the “type” line at the top of the sheet. If they are 11769, as long as they were done correctly, which is pretty easy with L3H tubes, they will work fine. The ports where the EGAC was pulled out should get plugs put into them so they’re not wide open for debris to possibly get inside.
Great video! I just received my DTNVS. Have you heard or seen the issue where the lightpipe protrudes down into the field of view?
Yes, this is becoming more common as is easier to see the indicator when it lights up.
mines had that too. From what I've read, it's very common in the DTNVS. However, there is a 'fix'. I sent it back to TNVC and they shaved/trimmed down the light pipes and all is good now.
My buddy is selling an old Litton m942 for $400, do you think that is a good purchase for me? I was thinking about using the tube out of it to build a pvs14 but I’m not sure about the tube compatibility though. Thank you
I think that’s a fair price if it’s a clean tube with no blems. It should drop right in but the gain control on the -14 won’t work since the tube doesn’t have gain control
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION o ok cool thank you man!
@@thesavage6484 Even with an A zone blemish that's an absolute steal. Definitely buy it.
No wait, don't buy it and send me your buddy's contact and I'LL buy it. lol
Just ordered the dtnvs with photonis echo tubes. Not sure if people are modifying the pigtails for those to get them to work with dtnvs, or does that only apply to L3/Harris/Elbit tubes?
Same deal on those.
Thank you for pointing out 10160 vs 11769 Tubes. Just one question: Why does the connector to be modified: I imagene a simplier solution like an adapter, or a socket that just has 2 out of the 3 connector pinned. By this, a 10160 housing could use 11769 Tubes, rendering the owner of the tube more versatile: If he can from than on put 11769 into every device. As this "idea" is not hard to think about, I guess there will be an answer as why this isnt offered on a regular basis already? I would appreciate your comment. As always: Great content TNVC and its Staff is producing! Thanks again
The goggle itself needs to have the electronics to support gain control. Adding gain control functionality adds complexity and cost. It’s much easier to make autogain housings that uses 10160 tubes.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION Nevermind: I didnt know L3 Tubes from 2012 on have a removable pigtail, so the 10160 and 11769 are pratictly the same, one is shipped with the pigtail installed and the other not. Both can be modified with adding a pigtail or removing it, as far as I understood your and Kinetic Consultings content regarding this topic. Thanks again!
@@sauerkraud You bet. Just keep in mind that removing the pig tails voids the factory warranty (2 years) and will void any additional warranty offered by dealers.
Can you order them without the auto-off when you flip them up vertically?
I’m sure it’s possible for Act in Black to do, however, I doubt they would offer it as an option because the overwhelming majority want the auto off feature.
Mine finally arrived! White Phos from TNVG. They say some "peppering" is acceptable, and common, but dang it really does bug me. I got a set in zone 2 on the right, and three smaller dots in zone 2 and zone 3 on the left. They said I could have specified cleaner tubes, but I thought hat went without being said. Do you have any "peppering" on yours? thank you
Thanks for the information!
One additional thing I can add for people looking at the DTNVS in regards to the unit "turning off/on" when it rotates up... If you have them up and turned off (knob off) and then turn them on (knob on) the tubes will turn on for a half second, be careful. :)
Can you make a video on the 1531 now that they are avail?
Thats true they do that. Good point I should have showed that 🤦♂️
If I get a set I’ll for sure do a video 🤙
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION thanks for what you do man!
@@justincasey no, thank you. I sincerely appreciate it
I was going to ask you a question on previous video,but you might not have seen it so I ask it here. Does AB Night vision battery pack work on GPNVG-18?
The connectors will attach to each other but it’s best to use the correct Fisher connector
I have two 14s with manual gain and use them with the gain maxed out. Do systems like these run at max gain until auto dimming?
Basically yes, however actual 10160 tubes will generally have a lower maximum gain. The term auto gain is kind of misleading in terms of what it does. It’s just the ABC (automatic brightness control) that all tubes have. With your -14s on a bright moon night if you’ve ever noticed them dim when going from dark to bright, that’s the ABC, so that’s how the DTNVS will perform. 👍
Wish it took a battery pack without having to spend another $400
Agreed. A LEMO port would’ve been a welcome feature.
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION Do you know if we can use rechargeable cr123 batteries on this unit?
@@redcell9744 I've been debating this too. The voltage is different. Not sure how the unit will handle that.
$400? Is that for an adapter or something?
Why? The night is 12 hours. The goggles power on by a single cr123 battery. The batt pack is how long and how much weight + cables that will snag.
Just put on a extra 2 pounds and say you did
Do you have any info on the purging of these units? I didn't notice a purge port...
Nice video!!!!
Where is the best place/dealer to buy these from? I'm new to the nvg game
I am biased because I work there, however, I'd tell you the same regardless - TNVC
I love my DTNVS'
It’s a great goggle 👍
Do you know what brand dovetail it uses?
What kind of material is the housing unit made out of?
per the ActinBlack website: Corrosion Resistant
Fibre re-enforces polycarbonate body
Thanks for the video one day i will stop being poor, but that day is not today lol
What do you think about Elbit XLSH green phos in these since they’re autogain?
Depends on the specs and how much they cost. The XLSH tubes can be some really good tubes but they can also have pretty low specs by today’s standards
What is the Fom rating on these?
Waiting for my first green 14 to come in, why am I already drooling over binos I know I can't afford?
Someday Cody, someday. I saved for 2 years for my 1st pair of NV Bino's I just ordered today.
What’s the price tag for them?
Did you need my address to send the IPD stops? . . . I've decided I want them after a couple of days with my DTNVS. Thanks for the video :)
Shoot us an email sales at tnvc dot com is the best bet.
In terms of durability, which is better the DTNVS or the PVS-15?
DTNVS
It was mentioned on a video by Kinetic Consulting on RUclips, military grade night vision, you'll be inline with the military & other govt agencies, if/when you need service/repairs accomplished.
I really want a set of dtnvs but I really hate the 6 month lead time for l3 unfilmed wp
@John Smith If you bought them when you posted your comment, you would have had them a month ago, lol.
6 months is nothing. Ever had to wait for a suppressor?
You guys assenble per customers request and sell ?
Yes. The way it works is you order the goggle you want based on the housing and select the tubes you want installed
How can I get it
I want one...
Hi Nitewalker, quick question. I'm new to the night vision arena and I watched a shit ton of your vids and other channels before finally making a purchase. I ended up getting the PVS 14 Photonis Echo white phosphor. Very pleased with it's performance. Here's my question. Upon using them for only the fourth time, the tube burned out on me. I stored them in a hard shell case with the battery out and only used them at night and never pointed them at any bright lights. The dealer I purchased from was super quick in trading me out for a new monocular, but now I'm super nervous about using them. How fragile are these night vision devices? Can far away street lamps cause a tube to burn out? The night it actually burned out was pitch dark, not even a street lamp, but the other nights there were far away lights and an occasional vehicle passing by in the distance. The dealer had to take my word for it that I wasn't a dumbass using it in daylight, but still, I can't help but wonder if I did something wrong? Anyway, I really appreciate all your videos. I know it's a lot of work editing and uploading them for us to watch. You the man.
It’s very rare for tubes to just die. What might have happened and I’m curious if they actually swapped out the tube, is that tube lock ring inside the housing pops loose, and the tube looses contact with the electrical connections from the battery compartment. That can happen by dropping it or if whoever assembled it threaded it incorrectly.
In either case, they got you squared away which is the important thing. Don’t worry about hurting it from regular use. Modern tubes are pretty tough. Don’t shine lasers into them, stare at bright lights for too long, don’t leave it turned on if you’re not using it, don’t use alkaline batteries or leave the battery inside when storing it. 👍
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION I really appreciate your reply. I never dropped it and when it burned out I literally watched a burn hole appear top right, fairly large, subtle popping sound, and then within few seconds the glowing screen faded to black and that was a wrap. I was using the AA alkaline battery that shipped with it, but I'll pick up some AA lithiums and use them from now on. Yeah, the company was super awesome and quick about sending me a new tube, which made the whole experience less stressful. Keep rocking the awesome vids man! Thanks again.
@@solarjinx wow 😳 too bad you didn’t get that on video that would’ve been pretty crazy lol
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION I know right? I had my phone out and was planning on filming through it right when it occurred. I managed to take three still pics of what the burn looked like before it went black, but not enough time to video record it.
@@solarjinx Out of curiosity, who did you buy from?
My DTNVS I just bought has new 11769 tubes am i fucked?
What do you prefer? Dual tube or quad tube?
Quad tubes in terms of total performance & ability to see the best/most at night. However, for the money the GPNVG costs, you can buy L3Harris BNVD (aka PVS-31A) with high spec 2376+ minimum FOM and a whole bunch more toys for the cost of one GPNVG.
IMO, the GPNVG is for the high end buyer who likely already has a ton of night vision gear and the GPNVG adds to the collection.
How much is the housing?
We don’t sell them separately at this time. Too many full builds. At some point we may
SteelIndustries.com is one place to look.
Good video.
Link?
I really wanted something like this but I can not justify 9 grand. I got a pvs14 3P.
Thank you for this. Sub'd.
🤙
@@NITEWALKER-NIGHTVISION Sucks being a Canadian and wanting to own cool stuff. :P
OMG !!! it's about 10.000 USD !!!
In europe with Harder FOM 2600 gallium arsenide intensifiers they are about 35 grand.
@@blegi1245 That version is nearly 17.000 usd.
@@operatorstryker9865 Are Harder tubes available in the us? We can't get the american stuff in europe due to export restrictions but it would be nice to see a comparison between top end Harder tubes and the americans.
@@blegi1245 wow !!!
cool man !!! we can't buy that version in US.
Speaking about tube selection. I wanted to get a pair of DTNVS but couldn’t decide between (Photonis Echo+ white phosphorus) or (Photonis 4G white Phosphorus) I need someone’s opinion PLEASE
It really depends on the spec sheet. I have a set of echos with 2600 fom.
@@cdhouk with 2600 FOM I bet there’s little to no blemishes and no black spots
I'd put your money into tubes vs the housing. Go RNVG if you're trying to save some bucks and get the best tubes your budget will allow.
@@justincasey Same here I put tubes before housing. Where I’m buying at for the same tube you buy for a DTNVG cost 2000$ more in a DTNVS. I had to get DTNVS cause they have no other night vision in stock. RNVG might have good quality tubes but I’m a sucker for articulating nods🤤
@@djeemetryphebe4303 Completely agree about articulating nods. nightgoggles.com has DTNVS's for $7k. Just orderered a pair today, you need to be on their emailing list. They sell out b4 getting posted online.
After having a Thin-Filmed WP PVS-14.... the DTNVS with Unfilmed WP are next on my list. Just waiting for my crypto to moon lol
RIP to the GPU era miners who spent their coins on friggin pizza.
Oh ok
😬😬😬😬😬😬
bitch'n cool ;)
Itar, why are you like this
PS: The FOM is 2613.6
Im a fuction guy care less about looks so you pick tubes and pay for other parts
Definitely. Tubes are the most important thing. But if you want an articulating goggle this is the way to go. Otherwise the RNVG is a lower cost bomb proof goggle
@Wayward Airsoft 100% My pair are solid as a rock. I wouldn't even worry.
@Wayward Airsoft TNVC state's the new drop test for the DTNVS's is 2 meters, instead of 1 meter like for the DTNVG's. Not saying the DTNVG's couldn't pass as well, but dropping from 6 feet & they still work fine? That's gotta be built like a tank.