How to Record a Drum Cover (3 Levels)
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Drum covers: it's hard to overstate the importance of our newfound ability to "simulate" a band, and share your drumming online or on social media. 15 years ago, it didn't exist. You had to record a gig, or get a band into the studio with you. Or, if you were lucky enough to have the software, mics, and equipment to remove the drums from a track, then record yourself over it, where would you share it?
But now that practically any drummer with a smart phone and Garage Band can record themselves along with literally any track in the universe, if you're not challenging yourself to record drum covers, and sharing them online, you're missing out on a big part of the learning experience.
But how to begin still isn't obvious to all drummers, especially those who didn't learn any engineering, or who don't have any expensive mics, cameras, or software. Well, fear not. In this video, I'll show you how to make great drum covers even if all you have is an iphone and a zoom mic.
The part noone talks about tho: Making a mistake halfway through the song and having to press all the record buttons again and again.
It's rare/easy to avoid if you're not a perfectionist about any one take. But you can also keep the cameras rolling and just restart the track in garage band or whatever DAW you're using, and trust final cut to sync it.
True. I guess there is a solution to that too however, if you use multicam and record several takes. If you make a mistake in bar 44 in take 1 say, but that bar was ok in take 2, you could probably stitch those takes together in a good spot in the audio file, but that needs to be accompanied by another video angle from that same take. Else I have the same issue as you. Usually end up with 10 takes and pick the best one.
I just get a large memory and keep on going then just trim it when im satisfied.. but then if youre good at improvising and you forgot the part you can just make your own part and get away with it..
Wait why bother setting up your 20 mics if you don't even mix them?! Sounded worse than the EAD mic, at least that was in proper stereo.
🤷♂️🤷♂️ fun? I guess?
Dear 80/20 drummer. I'm a 70 YO, resurrected Non Gig player (play for pleasure in retirement to My Music). recentky i went to function with a small live band. The drummer was pretty dynamic - close knit band at a bar / grill. I couldn't get over how great he sounded. Lush & Loud Cymbal crashes . using a Tama Kit. I understand the drums were Miked up , but i didn't see any mics on or near the cymbals. Am i missing something as to the outstanding sound of the Cymbals - I think they were Zildians. I never did any recording, and don't have any recording abilities or know-how other than using a mic on cassette recorder or my phone. I will study this video i have a lot to learn if only for general interest. Who knows, maybe a Geriatric band nearby me could materialize for extra fun!! Nothing like Live music.
You want to hit the cymbals with a glancing blow rather than straight on. Not only does it keep the volume down but it makes it sound way better. A nice, loud kick drum hit with the cymbal helps too. For some reason the two together with a proper blend make each other sound better.
ZILDJIANS!!! That would be why!
probably just really good cymbals and room
Flip the camera on a phone/iThing/etc to the selfie cam, put the thing in the place where you can a.) hear your drums the best, and b.) they sound fairly crappy. There's a reason for this -- when I record like that and I'm off/make a mistake/etc it really stands out. I know that I can't "hide" behind the mic or editing or anything else. It also means there's zero to almost zero editing (just cutting of stuff at the start and end that isn't part of the song). Very much IMHO I think it's best to approach it as doing it for yourself, to improve your playing, rather than making things nice for presentation purposes. In my experience if I'm "on" then the sound quality doesn't really matter, plus I know that I got there the old-fashioned way, by actually playing the part right. Anyways, I'm an old-school sort of person so it's o.k. to disregard all of what I just wrote.
I just want to avoid copyright
I like the idea of the EAD10, but it's just pricey enough ($600 now) that I'd rather save up and get an interface + 2-4 mics, stands, and cables. Better audio quality, expandable, can be used to record other instruments, and no extraneous features. (And it doesn't prevent me from mounting percussion to my bass drum hoop.) If you have extra cymbal stands, you can get an adapter and use them as mic stands to save money as well. Maybe if there were a version of the EAD10 that's just for recording, without the effects and triggers, for ~$350 or so, I'd consider it.
BTW, stereo mini jack = 3.5mm = 1/8", not 1/16".
I don’t record super hi quality stuff for my RUclips channel, but something Iydo is mic the drums with 3 mics, a kick an overhead and maybe a snare. But I record sound and video at the same time, take an out from the mixer and plug it in the camera. save me a lot of editing, which is something I don’t like to do anyway. And I don’t use special lighting or anything, just try to get everything done in one take. I guess I do it more for my own enjoyment than anything else. Anyway, good video.
I have a solution for you to be able to hit record from behind the drums. A Bluetooth keyboard for your laptop. In Logic Pro, I just hit R to record, spacebar to stop etc. Hope that helps. Thanks for the tips.
okay. I've been playing for 13 years and have never seen a square or rectangular cymbal! what the heck? what is it called?? Also, thank you for this video! very useful.
Can you use the EAD10 with a separate interface?
Say, I wanted to have the drums mainly from the EAD10 + 2 overhead mics for cymbals?
And on the EAD10, does it just clean up your existing drum sounds according to whatever preset you use or does it more or less sample replace the pieces(drum shells primarily)??
UNIQUE
"official" covers. I like it 🤣
@@8020drummer MUCH LOVE
Awesome video!
Where is that song at :21 from? I remember watching David Garibaldi play it but I can’t remember the song
I think it's "Escape from Oakland"!! I recognized it too!
I saw that Gibraltar just released at NAMM a 3-mic pack for drums-I think bass, snare/hat, and overhead. It’d be cool if you could get one for review, and let us know your thoughts.
Nice. The only thing I might implement in the future is the multi-cam angle, but apparently I am already on the so called "pro" level, recording Weckl, Porcaro, Garibaldi and Portnoy with a DSLR overhead, teamed with a bunch of mics. Then post prod in Premiere or Vegas. The only vid that was frowned upon by YT so far was Erotomania since Petrucci apparently guards his playing immensely:(. Worked fine with just the bass and Moore though.
As for your monitoring/playback dilemma: I listen back to the drumless track (fixed in iZotope RX) on my Iphone - not in the DAW. Still need to go and hit Record a few feet/meters away, but no rush, since I line the drumless track up with my final multi take afterwards. Remote control on the camera though.
Na no thanks need something easy a easy setup
are those not 8th in jacks, not 16th?
Love it! Thank you for sharing. Do you ever run into issues with copyright and videos being blocked when doing a cover?
yes! always. The video I link to on the card explores that more.
would love a rundown of your cymbals
unique
Seems very confusing.
I have a laptop, but I don’t have WiFi, I have a old iPhone 6 , don’t have iMovie, I only have one microphone.
The fact that I can’t afford wifi is the worst part , so am I out of luck for doing a drum cover.?
Outstanding. Thanks!
Check my channel for some bare bones drum covers LOL. I had a supposed drum teacher comment on my drum cover shitting all over me because I jokingly called my noob self Vinnie Coliauta Jr. 😂
Nice video, can u upload the full cover?
two full versions on my instagram
What’s the haitus kaiyote song at the start?
What is the name of the app in the mobile phone?
You have a square cymbal??!! Sick!
And what a great idea to show how to record a drum cover that making a cover of The Grid by Tigran Hamasyan 👌🏻
My question is how do you get the music in the video?
Thanks. I realized the EAD was not needed since I have an electronic drum set and can use the Roland module. I do love your playing and other tips. Thanks again.
And: here’s one more (in between) step/option. The EAD10 with 5 extra triggers. Some more money, but then you can really even out the sound and control the EAD10 in a better way.
Sound sample here ✌🏻🤩
ruclips.net/user/shorts4QYisw0hWN8?feature=share
I thought the EAD10 only had 3 extra inputs for triggers? Are you using splitters or something to get more?
@@drummerdan95 Yes, splitters is the answer. I made a tutorial some time ago, here you go 👍🏻🤩
ruclips.net/video/B737ieTS_x0/видео.html
Very helpful information! Thank you kindly good sir.
what is the original track for ?
Crazy setup in the drum studio 👌🏽
Love the no nonsense!
Way to go.
Hold on, for the EAD10 ‘follow the same procedure’?? Don’t do that! The whole point of the EAD is it means you don’t have to do any of those things.
You import the track into your iPhone (drumless via Moises if you like), record your cover using your phone (the EAD pairs with a free app) then that’s it. Done.
The video, drum audio and original track are all ready to export (adjusting your drum versus track level beforehand in the app if required) and upload to RUclips, Insta, etc. You don’t need a laptop or video editing software.
[the more you know soundtrack]
I use the EAD10 frequently and I agree it's quite straight forward both with and without video. It can even be used with mesh heads and triggers if you live, as I do, in a condo.
@@carlupthegrove262 that’s a god tier tip holy shit
@Ned Potter Yeah but if you do that then you have to play along to a drumless track which for me ain’t as nice as hearing the original drums and just overlaying that on top of the drumless track in post.
@@julesdrums6167 yeah I do the same thing usually - play along with the original track, then export the video with the drum audio only from the EAD’s app, then add the drumless audio afterwards.
Gracias