Nadal aged much worse than Federer, as it was expected. If Roger changed the racket by 2008-10, he would be up in the H2H. In their worst years they played 8 matches in 2008/13 but only 1 between 2015-16.
@@masters.1000The small frame racquet was an issue against Nadal, but it was better against Djokovic. Since his racket change, his rivalry against both of those players shifted.
@@nicolaswhitehouse3894 Totally. But still was much more competitive against Novak than Nadal previously. Much more of his losses against Novak were only because he ran out of patience and played rushed.
@@masters.1000He played rush because Federer could no longer trade baseline rallies against Djokovic, due to his decline in mouvement but also and especially because he couldn’t finish points as easily with his forehand as he was used to.
Yesterday I was thinking about this match. Rafael had no answer whatsoever since Roger erased his advantadge by switching the racket. I would dare to say he would have beaten him at least one of their finals in RG if he had done that earlier.
The difference was not the racket, but Nadal physical condition since 2015, when he began to shorten the points because his body didn’t allow him to be the monster he had been years before. And if Nadal had to shorten the points, Federer was his worst rival for that… That’s why the score was favorable to Roger since 2015
He made the switch at the end of the ‘13 season. It was the 6 month break at the end of the ‘16 season that his coach said Federer needed to be more aggressive with the backhand that changed. From that point till the end of his career his backhand was one of the 4 or 5 best on tour
It is really amazing to watch the toilsome clashes of Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal. The last official showdown was utterly extraordinary. It was just like yesterday. All matches which were plainly competed between Federer and Nadal will always be in our mind. This rivalry was entirely path-breaking in the tennis history. These competitors have played the considerable roles in the expansion and evolution of the men's tennis, lucidly making the transition to another era.
The greatest rivalry of the sport is not to be repeated. Roger and Rafael had opposing games,match demeanor, and mindsets. Both electrified the sport like no other players could. I shall miss both champions😮
A shame this was the semi and not the final. I love the contrast between Roger and Rafa. Roger is like a purring Bentley. Rafa is like an over-tuned snorting Aston Martin. I’ll miss them both, but the game is in good hands with the likes of Sinner and Alcaraz. 👍🎾
@@laurentdu78 nah.......history say.............ROGER IS THE KING.....AND RAFA THE CLAY GOAT........AND NOLE THE RECORD HOLDER DUE TO WEAK ERA NEW GENERATION IN LAST DECADE WHICH ALLOWED NOLE TO BREAK FED'S TITLES RECORD AND ALSO CAUSE HE IS 6 YEARS.....YOUNGER THAN THE TRUE GOAT.....SO MATE THINGS ARE NOT SO....SIMPLE AS U THINK.
Great players. I doubt there will ever be time as it was during the BIG3. It's always sad to see a great player playing his last match, but it can serve as reminder on their amazing achievements.
It's so fascinating to see how Roger completely transforms his point construction when facing the master lefty. His signature inside out forehand is really well muted here, going mostly for cross court forehand instead to Rafa's backhand time and time again. Can't imagine how disciplined he would have needed to be to beat the urge to shoot one down the line. Really patient and persistent play won him the match.
The fact that Federer managed to play at an even higher level in the final at almost 38 years old against Djokovic was remarkable…and heartbreaking to lose💔
@@vichy97th Novak and Rafa matches are like boxing matches. The intensity and fighting spirit is off the charts. But the quality of rallies/array of beautiful shots and angles, isn't there the way you'd see in, say, the 2019 Wimb final (still can't watch that match beyond the 4th set knowing how it ended)
too much and long rallies at least for me with rafa vs novak, while with federer vs nadal/novak he is more offensive player and after 3-5 shot he start to attack with every shot and long rallies are less but more intense and with high level
@@tmst2199 i don't think so, they respect each other but nothing more......nadal has a friendship with federer and has always considered him as his rival
@@AlanRR121 IMO the Fedal rivalry was greatest & most beloved in tennis! So it’s refreshing and I’m thankful to exchange with a Nadal fan! Lately most seem to be Nole-only fans who drop their limited view after enjoying watching the sea of Fed or Fedal highlight videos ironically or on tennis forums with a recency bias. I really am thankful for all Nadal has done for tennis. If there were more than only about 30% of clay tournaments, surely he’d spent more weeks No. 1 than No. 2/3!! He has the record of weeks No. 2, if I’m not mistaken?! He was leading Federer H2H even in hard courts, but in the last 5 years of their glorious 15-year rivalry RF with his Neo backhand overcame and won 5/5 on hard court (6/7 all-court!! -why he’s included on Fed’s 5 great rivalries lost more earlier but won more towards end) to flip to a positive H2H 11-9, pulled ahead further in grass to 3-1. Yes Rafa is clay king, no disputes there!! However Roger did win 2 clay titles beating Nadal (Hamburg ‘07 & Madrid ‘09?, one of which ended Rafa’s incredible clay winning streak), and won 13 clay titles including 1 FO in 5 finals.
@@bensportraitpainter6742 Yeah but don’t forget Nadal” body broke down, much slower movement after getting injured in 2014. It played a big part in Federer’ 6/7 and not winning a set against Djokovic on hard. There’s a reason why Fed’ ‘neo backhand’ didn’t work against Djokovic and he stayed old despite magically got younger against Nadal.
@@AlanRR121 “Yeah (accept Fed won more v. Nadal and had respectable clay results, though not as successful as he was on grass and hard becoming king of Wimbledon and king of US Open and 2nd all-time at AO) but don't forget Nadal(‘s)body broke(n) down, much slower movement after getting injured in 2014. It played a big part in Federer' 6/7” Is that so? Then with “a broken down, much slower body” how did Nadal win several more slams (2 USO, 1 AO, a few FO) from the time Fed won the 6/7 last of their matches, as Fed increasingly had to be absent and retire over 2 years before Rafa? Okay, now you reveal you’re actually trying to promote Djokovic’s case? Were you pretending to promote Nadal as a buffer before Nole?? It would’ve been wonderful if Nole wasn’t elbow-hurt in 2017, Federer’s 4th season with 90%+ won.. 👏 to ND earning most total wins playing +10 than the Fedal 40 matches-chasing titles by any legal means in rivalry to tie H2H after 10 years, even edged RF at 1 slam F & 2 slam SFs overcoming match points-if RF won any 2 of these 3 matches, the 15-year H2H ties. Especially 👏 winning the ‘19 slam marathon final of 5 hours edging RF in the 5th set tiebreaker 13-12 (3), when 6 years younger than his 37.9 years-old opponent outperforming + points & + games. And even though Novak barely edged Fed on H2H and overcame match points to win 2 US O & 1 Wimbledon, and had easier competition finally taking advantage of being 6 years youth to Federer chasing all titles he chased, still he couldn’t touch many Fed’s GOAT statistic records as follow: 1. 👑 of Wimbledon -Most prestigious 🎾 🏆 (5 consecutive and 8 total) 2. 👑of US Open -Biggest 🎾 stage (23k+) 5 Consecutive …That’s 5-8 in 3 slams, unlike other 2 who have only 1 slam 5+… 3. Consecutive 237 weeks No. 1 (4.5 years) 4. 90%+ won 4 seasons, x2 of Djoker (Big 3 high 95.3%) 5. Re cord of 14 slams in 6 years (18/19 consecutive slam finals) 6. Most matches and tournaments in Big three 7. Greatest positive impact on 🎾 8. Bageled all of fellow Big 3 (& Murray), was only bageled x1 by Nadal in clay, once near very early and by very end of 25 year career and an odd time-RF & ND each were bageled x10+ and bageled opponents a few less than RF’s Big 3 record of 15x. 9. Won Wimbledon & AO without dropping a set, what Nadal only did at FO and Novak never. 10. Only player ever to win 24 consecutive ATP finals.
Pour ce match je trouve qu'ils etaient de niveaux egaux, mais de style differents bien sûr. Les forces sont différentes, Nadal est lourd et puissant, il se déplace lourdement. Fédérer est une gazelle dans ces déplacements et prend souvent très vite la balle au rebond. Ils ont chacun leurs tactiques, leurs techniques. Et franchement ca n'avait plus d'importance qui gagnait. Un coup l'un un coup l'autre...tout simplement le bonheur de voir du si beau tennis et 2 excellents joueurs ! Le FEDAL a été de grands moments de plaisir !😊🎉
Djokovic and Nadal surpassed Federer in numbers but it is undeniable that no player played such plastic and showy tennis. In terms of technique and genius to improvise Federer was unbeatable
After this match Roger lost 4 consecutive points being 40-15 for winning his last and dreamt wimbledon. Its woukd have been q marvelous way to say good bye. I still cant believe how he choked in that match agasinst Novak.
Ever since Roger got rid off that ''piece of wood'' he was playing with up until 2014, he beated Nadal almost everytime they met. The raquet he was using was such a big disadvantage against that 100 inch Babolat of Nadal.... Only god could've knew what Roger might have achieved if he was using a competitive racket.... Maybe 3-4 more Roland Garroses
@@idrisahmed2659 wrong Nadal won 3 matches on 4 against Federer in Australia. Federer unable to beat Nadal in 11 attemps in monte Carlo, Roma, Roland Garros
Numbers are showing differently, so you can hate as much as like. Novak Đoković, aka NOLE, is the GOAT no matter how you try to insult or call him; it just proves with what amount of hate and disrespectful fanobis of others He had to deal with. That just makes it superior. Plus, he didn't play on GS due to discrimination; otherwise, he would have had more than 24 GS. Keep up the hate, though; it will serve as a great source of fuel for Him and other South Slavs, who knows, maybe for 25 GS.
@@Luchon20082010Thats exactly the point, a C level Novak still can beat Fed. People like to say how Federer was better, which is certainly true during the match. But beating your rivals while not being your best is a sign that you are the superior player.
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That sunlight and no commentary makes it seem like an Elysian field outside of time where perfect tennis played forever
There's no sunlight dude, that match was played in a cloudy day.
I love how the last game they ever played encapsulated everything that made the rivalry so special.
I could watch this every day.
2015-2019 Federer is a better much up against Nadal due to his improved backhand but worst match up against Djokovic due to his worsened forehand.
Nadal aged much worse than Federer, as it was expected. If Roger changed the racket by 2008-10, he would be up in the H2H.
In their worst years they played 8 matches in 2008/13 but only 1 between 2015-16.
@@masters.1000The small frame racquet was an issue against Nadal, but it was better against Djokovic. Since his racket change, his rivalry against both of those players shifted.
@@nicolaswhitehouse3894 Totally. But still was much more competitive against Novak than Nadal previously.
Much more of his losses against Novak were only because he ran out of patience and played rushed.
@@masters.1000He played rush because Federer could no longer trade baseline rallies against Djokovic, due to his decline in mouvement but also and especially because he couldn’t finish points as easily with his forehand as he was used to.
@@nicolaswhitehouse3894 Agreed.
Feels like yesterday !
Yesterday I was thinking about this match. Rafael had no answer whatsoever since Roger erased his advantadge by switching the racket.
I would dare to say he would have beaten him at least one of their finals in RG if he had done that earlier.
The one from 2011 was clearly there for the taking even with the racket he used back then
Very true. And the difference is evident from the start of a return game. The BH return is so much deeper and consistent with the larger racquet.
The difference was not the racket, but Nadal physical condition since 2015, when he began to shorten the points because his body didn’t allow him to be the monster he had been years before. And if Nadal had to shorten the points, Federer was his worst rival for that… That’s why the score was favorable to Roger since 2015
He made the switch at the end of the ‘13 season. It was the 6 month break at the end of the ‘16 season that his coach said Federer needed to be more aggressive with the backhand that changed. From that point till the end of his career his backhand was one of the 4 or 5 best on tour
I agree
It is really amazing to watch the toilsome clashes of Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal. The last official showdown was utterly extraordinary. It was just like yesterday. All matches which were plainly competed between Federer and Nadal will always be in our mind. This rivalry was entirely path-breaking in the tennis history. These competitors have played the considerable roles in the expansion and evolution of the men's tennis, lucidly making the transition to another era.
Not so rival because Nadal was too good for federer.
Watched it live, the ending of this match was so crazy, finally Roger sealed the match on 5th match point
The greatest rivalry of the sport is not to be repeated. Roger and Rafael had opposing games,match demeanor, and mindsets. Both electrified the sport like no other players could. I shall miss both champions😮
Federer too weak against Nadal. Greatest rivalry is DJOKOVIC NADAL, by far
@@laurentdu78 wishing much?
It’s amazing they only played each other 4 times on grass but 16 on clay. Just think what the head to head would be if it was the opposite way around?
It's hard to watch this and not think about what happened two days later.
Djokovic just the greatest of them all 🎉
A shame this was the semi and not the final. I love the contrast between Roger and Rafa. Roger is like a purring Bentley. Rafa is like an over-tuned snorting Aston Martin.
I’ll miss them both, but the game is in good hands with the likes of Sinner and Alcaraz. 👍🎾
And Djokovic Greatest of them all 😎🇷🇸
@@laurentdu78 nah.......history say.............ROGER IS THE KING.....AND RAFA THE CLAY GOAT........AND NOLE THE RECORD HOLDER DUE TO WEAK ERA NEW GENERATION IN LAST DECADE WHICH ALLOWED NOLE TO BREAK FED'S TITLES RECORD AND ALSO CAUSE HE IS 6 YEARS.....YOUNGER THAN THE TRUE GOAT.....SO MATE THINGS ARE NOT SO....SIMPLE AS U THINK.
historic video
Incredible match. I don't if it was better than 2008 in terms of drama, but it's up there.
Not remotely close. But it had some resembling moments
Great players. I doubt there will ever be time as it was during the BIG3. It's always sad to see a great player playing his last match, but it can serve as reminder on their amazing achievements.
I would have killed to be at this match. Perfection!!
Wonderful highlights
It's so fascinating to see how Roger completely transforms his point construction when facing the master lefty. His signature inside out forehand is really well muted here, going mostly for cross court forehand instead to Rafa's backhand time and time again. Can't imagine how disciplined he would have needed to be to beat the urge to shoot one down the line. Really patient and persistent play won him the match.
As much as i love this tournament, it brings back more nightmares than good memories
So glad for Djokovic ❤
The fact that Federer managed to play at an even higher level in the final at almost 38 years old against Djokovic was remarkable…and heartbreaking to lose💔
Sir Roger federer golden legend in universal love you so much miss you so much teniss history best player ❤❤❤
11:40 Nadal felt the weight of that moment
I know they played more finals, but Rafa-Novak matches aren't nearly as aesthetically pleasing as Rafa-Roger+Roger-Novak
Rafa-Roger the best but Rafa-Novak better than Roger-Novak
@@vichy97th Novak and Rafa matches are like boxing matches. The intensity and fighting spirit is off the charts. But the quality of rallies/array of beautiful shots and angles, isn't there the way you'd see in, say, the 2019 Wimb final (still can't watch that match beyond the 4th set knowing how it ended)
too much and long rallies at least for me with rafa vs novak, while with federer vs nadal/novak he is more offensive player and after 3-5 shot he start to attack with every shot and long rallies are less but more intense and with high level
Is there bad blood between Novak and Nadal?
@@tmst2199 i don't think so, they respect each other but nothing more......nadal has a friendship with federer and has always considered him as his rival
Both are absolute legend
Last 8 matches: 7-1 for Roger
Grands slams ? Nadal destroyed swiss diva 10-4
@@laurentdu78Et ?
@@marie-claudelouis-mariecol6407 Federer n'a pas eu le niveau contre Nadal
This is the real art of Tennis
Goat of grass vs Goat of clay
At least Roger got the win on their last match !
And last 5/5 matches on hard court winning 6/7 their last encounters flipping the non-hard court H2H to Fed, 15-10 (3-1 grass, 11-9 hard, 2-14 clay).
@@bensportraitpainter6742Federer barely leads Nadal outside clay and got completely whipped on it.
@@AlanRR121 IMO the Fedal rivalry was greatest & most beloved in tennis! So it’s refreshing and I’m thankful to exchange with a Nadal fan! Lately most seem to be Nole-only fans who drop their limited view after enjoying watching the sea of Fed or Fedal highlight videos ironically or on tennis forums with a recency bias.
I really am thankful for all Nadal has done for tennis. If there were more than only about 30% of clay tournaments, surely he’d spent more weeks No. 1 than No. 2/3!! He has the record of weeks No. 2, if I’m not mistaken?!
He was leading Federer H2H even in hard courts, but in the last 5 years of their glorious 15-year rivalry RF with his Neo backhand overcame and won 5/5 on hard court (6/7 all-court!! -why he’s included on Fed’s 5 great rivalries lost more earlier but won more towards end) to flip to a positive H2H 11-9, pulled ahead further in grass to 3-1. Yes Rafa is clay king, no disputes there!!
However Roger did win 2 clay titles beating Nadal (Hamburg ‘07 & Madrid ‘09?, one of which ended Rafa’s incredible clay winning streak), and won 13 clay titles including 1 FO in 5 finals.
@@bensportraitpainter6742 Yeah but don’t forget Nadal” body broke down, much slower movement after getting injured in 2014. It played a big part in Federer’ 6/7 and not winning a set against Djokovic on hard. There’s a reason why Fed’ ‘neo backhand’ didn’t work against Djokovic and he stayed old despite magically got younger against Nadal.
@@AlanRR121 “Yeah (accept Fed won more v. Nadal and had respectable clay results, though not as successful as he was on grass and hard becoming king of Wimbledon and king of US Open and 2nd all-time at AO) but
don't forget Nadal(‘s)body broke(n) down,
much slower movement after getting
injured in 2014. It played a big part in
Federer' 6/7”
Is that so? Then with “a broken down, much slower body” how did Nadal win several more slams (2 USO, 1 AO, a few FO) from the time Fed won the 6/7 last of their matches, as Fed increasingly had to be absent and retire over 2 years before Rafa?
Okay, now you reveal you’re actually trying to promote Djokovic’s case? Were you pretending to promote Nadal as a buffer before Nole?? It would’ve been wonderful if Nole wasn’t elbow-hurt in 2017, Federer’s 4th season with 90%+ won..
👏 to ND earning most total wins playing +10 than the Fedal 40 matches-chasing titles by any legal means in rivalry to tie H2H after 10 years, even edged RF at 1 slam F & 2 slam SFs overcoming match points-if RF won any 2 of these 3 matches, the 15-year H2H ties. Especially 👏 winning the ‘19 slam marathon final of 5 hours edging RF in the 5th set tiebreaker 13-12 (3), when 6 years younger than his 37.9 years-old opponent outperforming + points & + games.
And even though Novak barely edged Fed on H2H and overcame match points to win 2 US O & 1 Wimbledon, and had easier competition finally taking advantage of being 6 years youth to Federer chasing all titles he chased, still he couldn’t touch many Fed’s GOAT statistic records as follow:
1. 👑 of Wimbledon -Most prestigious 🎾 🏆 (5 consecutive and 8 total)
2. 👑of US Open -Biggest 🎾 stage (23k+) 5 Consecutive …That’s 5-8 in 3 slams, unlike other 2 who have only 1 slam 5+…
3. Consecutive 237 weeks No. 1 (4.5 years)
4. 90%+ won 4 seasons, x2 of Djoker (Big 3 high 95.3%)
5. Re cord of 14 slams in 6 years (18/19 consecutive slam finals)
6. Most matches and tournaments in Big three
7. Greatest positive impact on 🎾
8. Bageled all of fellow Big 3 (& Murray), was only bageled x1 by Nadal in clay, once near very early and by very end of 25 year career and an odd time-RF & ND each were bageled x10+ and bageled opponents a few less than RF’s Big 3 record of 15x.
9. Won Wimbledon & AO without dropping a set, what Nadal only did at FO and Novak never.
10. Only player ever to win 24 consecutive ATP finals.
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Pour ce match je trouve qu'ils etaient de niveaux egaux, mais de style differents bien sûr. Les forces sont différentes, Nadal est lourd et puissant, il se déplace lourdement. Fédérer est une gazelle dans ces déplacements et prend souvent très vite la balle au rebond. Ils ont chacun leurs tactiques, leurs techniques. Et franchement ca n'avait plus d'importance qui gagnait. Un coup l'un un coup l'autre...tout simplement le bonheur de voir du si beau tennis et 2 excellents joueurs ! Le FEDAL a été de grands moments de plaisir !😊🎉
38 years old and still winning, amazing. But Nadal fought great as well, great match!
Djokovic and Nadal surpassed Federer in numbers but it is undeniable that no player played such plastic and showy tennis. In terms of technique and genius to improvise Federer was unbeatable
Nadal got the first laugh, and Federer got the last..
RF - king of tennis
Only 3rd and last of Big 3
Bjorn Borg. Always the great.
@@laurentdu78 YES IDIOT....NOLE IS ONLY THIRD.....FED IS THE NO 1.....GO BURRY YOURSELF
Aside from the 2nd set where Federer fell asleep at the wheel, both played at a very high level.
I just see GOATs
Only 2nd and 3rd, Djokovic above both
After this match Roger lost 4 consecutive points being 40-15 for winning his last and dreamt wimbledon. Its woukd have been q marvelous way to say good bye. I still cant believe how he choked in that match agasinst Novak.
Federer didn't go for the lines, but he was aiming more inside the court, that give him the result.
Partidazo! irrepetibles
Also 9:46, shot of the match for me. How he made that shot insultingly easy, like a bitch slap.
Ever since Roger got rid off that ''piece of wood'' he was playing with up until 2014, he beated Nadal almost everytime they met. The raquet he was using was such a big disadvantage against that 100 inch Babolat of Nadal.... Only god could've knew what Roger might have achieved if he was using a competitive racket.... Maybe 3-4 more Roland Garroses
If if if doesn’t exist. Mistake from Roger and his team.
Most lkely 2019 Wimbledon semi-final.
This was Federer at 38, and he almost won Wimbledon. Look today at Nadal at 38...
But Nadal at 32-35 kept winning a lot. Roger won nothing at that time… Roger’s peak was at his 20s, Rafa was more consistent
Nadal 22 GS above federer forever
@@laurentdu78 apart from roger has nadal beat on all other surfaces
@@idrisahmed2659 wrong Nadal won 3 matches on 4 against Federer in Australia. Federer unable to beat Nadal in 11 attemps in monte Carlo, Roma, Roland Garros
@@laurentdu78 FED IS THE KING OF TENNIS......GO CRY HATER
Nadal's grunting is so F'in annoying
And the Goat 🐐 won the final in the end.
Only HD? Nadal grunting is just terible.
Fitting that the GOAT won in their last encounter! It's too bad Fakesurgeryovic won the final though despite being the inferior player
Numbers are showing differently, so you can hate as much as like. Novak Đoković, aka NOLE, is the GOAT no matter how you try to insult or call him; it just proves with what amount of hate and disrespectful fanobis of others He had to deal with. That just makes it superior. Plus, he didn't play on GS due to discrimination; otherwise, he would have had more than 24 GS. Keep up the hate, though; it will serve as a great source of fuel for Him and other South Slavs, who knows, maybe for 25 GS.
Djokovic played incredibly bad but played the crucial points better
@@Luchon20082010Thats exactly the point, a C level Novak still can beat Fed. People like to say how Federer was better, which is certainly true during the match. But beating your rivals while not being your best is a sign that you are the superior player.
Novak Djokovic is the Goat, far more humility than showing off Rolex diva
Novak was very lucky that federer was 6 years older than him
Or federer was lucky that he won most of the gs before novak and nadal came off age.
@@suchitapage4725 They are both lucky that the ATP and major tournaments have changed the speed of surfaces and balls
Excuse of Age, Federer not good enough against Nadal and Djokovic
@@Chris-gz2yzFederer always knew low grass
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Nadal grunts are just horrible to listen to be honest....
Bromance
Grunting like Sabalenka 😂
Ueehhh… 😂😂😂