Was Ryuzo's Betrayal JUST To Feed His Starving Men? | Ghost Of Tsushima
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2024
- Ryuzo and the straw hat ronin Ghost of tsushima. Ryuzo was tricked big time by Kotun Khan in ghost of tsushima into betraying Jin Sakai and leading the straw hat ronin down a path that made them just as big of enemies of the state as the mongol invaders.
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Should we continue with more Ghost of Tsushima videos? Maybe an in depth exploration of the Yarikawa Rebellion next?
Hell yeah we should.
Yes, more Ghost of Tsushima.
Yes!
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yes
Jin; How could you betray me Ryuzo??
Ryuzo; Man i aint ate in a week
That's the thing there too. How was Jin eating?
@@BlackMarvel25 Plot food
@airgo24dlamini37 I know he was hunting out there, so maybe that's what was happening for him to eat.
@@BlackMarvel25 In a lot of cutscenes after you clear mission or bases jin is beside his horse eating bread or drinking water or sake from i guess the villagers he saved and gited him food. During the kenji missions he eating and drinking as well.
@@BlackMarvel25 he is the ghost, ghosts doesn't eat
I think he's a coward. the second he realized Jin won he tried to crawl back to him like nothing happened
agreed. Dude had some sympathy from me up to that point. But when he tried to pull that "Just say i was your spy so i can rejoin you guys" i was locked in, ready to take his head
@@Katokhannwith that line he proved he had no loyalty, to anyone. What was to stop him from betraying us again? And again, and again
Simply an opportunist
@@the_jingolike Yabushige
What really segments that moment was thinking back to when he first turn coated....
Me: BITCH I OFFERED YOU A CHANCE TO JOIN US WHEN WE SAVED MY UNCLE!!! AND YOU DIDN'T WANNA FIGHT THEN, BUT NOW YOU WANNA FIGHT BY MY SIDE!?!?!
FUCK OUTTA HERE
I found some humor in them having Kazya Nakai, Zoro’s Japanese voice actor from the One Piece anime and Jin’s voice actor as well, fight against the Strawhats in the game
I thought it was impossible, but you just made this game even better for me.
But also zoros voice actor joined the strawman crew for a mission
@@charlesbronson2926 Sure, who wiped them out in the end though?
He also plays Mugen
Short answer, No. Ryuzo just used “feeding his men” as a scape goat but secretly resented Jin. Through out the game his men were taking part in pillaging the island of its own occupants and was really protecting his own skin from the mongols.
Exactly, he showed clear signs of resentment of Jin early on, he had a chip on his shoulder regarding him and the fact that Jin, despite being beaten, broken etc, still kept his honor clearly just infuriated Ryuzo too, because i bet he had always thought Jin was just a spoiled kid who would brake in the "real" world.
Yeah since the Mongols fed his men then the food problem shouldn’t be an issue anymore. They could have just raided where they were being held for food
Imo, ego was the main reason for Ryuzo's actions, with the circumstances being an excuse (maybe unconsciously, however) used to justify his decisions - not that he didn't care for the Straw Hats, or want to spare innocent lives, but they were at least secondary to his insecurity in regards to Jin, and this inferiority complex was likely what prevented him from acting or speaking up against the Khan's atrocities despite being genuinely horrified at them.
I was truly impressed in the way in which the game subtly told the player, long before the big twist, that Ryuzo is a horse's ass.
4:00 lmao that horse cut the tension like a hot knife through butter
Yea…just…yea. Cant do nothing but laugh about it. Just a big ass horse head right in Ryuzo’s face
Yes ghost of tsushima is a great game and I feel like there is so much more content to explore and it's surprising nobody will at least very few are covering this game so I'll be down to see more of this game cuz I love how you handle Red Dead redemption
Aye thank you. Honestly, this last run of the game has gotten me really interested in the world and how some of these stories are told. Dont mean to knock the praise the games art direction gets because its definitely deserved. But man, it really overshadows a lot of other things going on in the game
I was really understanding of Riouzo until he pleaded with Jin to take him back and say he was just a spy. After everything he did, naw man its time lol
I believe a persons true intentions dictate their character and mentality. Jin Sakai became a samurai simply because as we see in the game, he wasn’t after personal gain or fame and he understood the life risk behind the title of samurai and he was willing to sacrifice in order to protect the people of tsushima. Ryuzo on the other hand even said he wanted to prove himself and wanted people’s admiration. In essence he didn’t have a reason of his own to become a samurai except the approval of the elders and the people of tsushima. Hence why he is afraid of death even though thats the job of a samurai: to live and fight and potentially die for the the people he swore to protect. Jin understood that, Ryuzo didn’t. Hence why Ryuzo was so weak.
Exactly! That’s also why Jin went all out in the tournament while Ryuzo was looking for a handout. Jin understood that being a samurai meant devoting his life to their people. Ryuzo, when it came down to it, served himself. He was never fit to become a samurai
That is rather romantized outlook on samurai.@@mattweich5001
I started to play Ghost of Tsushima a few days ago, and i i'm in love with this game. Also, a little bit anger because... Why so few people talk about this game?
Would you believe me if I told you the last of us 2 won game of the year over this one
@@jamesbrown6994 what a waste of an award
@Hyenatempest yeah, but hey, at least it won player's choice
@@jamesbrown6994 I'll be honest, the whole "game of the year" title kinda lost its prestige for me when there have been other gaming award shows that has its own game of the year. Plus there have been games that either didn't win or was even nominated that released a "game of the year" edition.
Why so few people talk about a 4 year old game?
Maybe due to the fact that it's old and largely irrelevant at this point.
Ryuzo changes sides like I change socks.
I wish they had shown more child Ryuzo interaction with Jin during childhood to see how he was like. All we got is that Shimura called him "demon child" and that Ryuzo though that Shimura would get rid of Jin to start his own family (which in the end, he was right)
Saying that Ryuzo was right there is like saying that your highschool bully was right by calling you ugly because years later you've gotten into a car accident and got half your face torn off
Jin: Stop crying about the day you lost to me, get good. You think I was always a legend like this? I trained hard everyday. ☝️
Basically a skill issue on ryuzo's part
Lol. And the massive amount of plot armour and being mc.
I belive their situation is complex its understandable as to why Ryuzo eels this way and the bounty was just the deciding factor to betray Jin.
And he didnt want to become the Samurais slave as well. Honestly I think they did alright writing both characters. Im currently on act2 so no one spoil but there was a bit of hesitation when Ryouzo burned that person alive as a threat so naybe later on the story this will all change
@@kimurapython121oh buddy, you are going to hate him just as much as Jin by the end
I played this game twice and even on my first encounter with Ryuzo I immediately knew something was up with him. Nevertheless, I thought his story was pretty interesting and I wanted him to be on our side cause but I guess he didn't feel the same.
4:00 the horse with the mean videobomb 😂
Thank you for making this, there were very few videos around this topic when the game first came out. Also it’s just a good quality video
He’s a coward on the side of the more powerful man, as soon as he realized the Kahn wouldn’t win, he tried to win back Jin
Another Top quality video, I really enjoy the consistency of the content. Keep up the good work and thank you for the great videos
I've always thought that Jin and Ryuzo are the two sides of the same coin. Both represent self-sacrifice (Shimura represents the opposite and rather would sacrifice others). The difference between them is ego. Jin let everything he knew go, even a life of riches just to save his home while Ryuzo through his ego can't let another man save his men.
I know something was wrong with Ryuzo before he betrayed me
Like Apollyon from For honor once said: Desperation and trust are seldom allies.
Ryuzo has a very good point about the samurai, Shimura would just send them to die through front gate lol
Ryuzo reminds me a lot of my ex-best friend, a cowardly opportunist
To me it was quite evident that Ryuzo always had a chip on his shoulder regarding Jin and seeing Jin so "low", but still upholding his sense of honor probably broke him, since i feel that he most likley always thought Jin would be "just like him" if he had been in his shoes, which we evidently see is not true.
Now as to why Ryuzo would still be a Ronin when he is litterally best friends with the heir to the local Daimyo is however a bit unbelievable.
I honestly think it all comes down to Ryuzo being jealous of Jin. And deep down he is a coward and a traitor, he blames Jin for cutting down his 'family', his straw hats, but these same Straw Hats though: are found patrolling the island and will attack Jin on sight, found alongside the Mongols committing horrible crimes upon the populace and even enjoying it as well. Ryuzo did not mind turning a blind eye to his Men doing this though. So in reality the only person who got The Straw hats killed was Ryuzo, he got his men killed by letting them be used as extra muscle for the Khan's army.
I think he knew that but was just coping
@@jamesbrown6994 I find a bit odd that Jin never mentions that to him.
@@Historyfan476AD yeah, but I'm sure at the time he was more pissed about taka
I think it is a mix of all: Ryuzo resentment to Jin (a poor man who lost his only chance to progress in socity lost to a noble), the situation as a whole of Tsushima being almost lost at the start of the war, and probably he and his men were hungry.
There is also working under Shimurai, who seem to learn war strategy from a world war 1 manual aka 'Send them to the grinder, until the machine jams or breaks'. Who would want to work under a boss who have his own head so deep in his butt it returns to the top of his neck?.
Giving proper care to your enemies, civilians or POW,like Mongols did to the Strawhats, is a tactic of war that has been done, even the Mongols did it IRL. Their offer was always 'Just give up,pay taxes, join my empire and we cool', and, aside of taxes lol, that almost seen as a perk, the level of trading with other people far away inside the empire would had skyrocketed
I can relate with Ryuzo tho. I actually used to feel some level of resentment to a more successful friend of my whole live, sure it doesnt drive me to stab him, but it is there. I also have this feeling of needing to proof myself, not wanting help of someone out of pity, even when it comes out of kindness, it always is perceived as that, pity.
Theres quite a few instances of the mongols rewarding immediate submission just as they did irl. i imagine if i was some peasant or village headman in ghost of tsushima i’d probably surrender immediately ngl
oh yayy, i love this game
Not sure if Ryuzo had hopes of defeating Jin, after all in both battles when unsheathing his Sword he throws the Sheath away, which was something Samurai did when they thought they would not survive the oncoming Battle. And even after being show this mercy by Jin, that he slipped up or only made a small mistake, whatever, was not taken up by Ryuzo, showing that he did indeed not only want to feed his men...
They should of allowed ryuzo to become a samurai and then make lord shimura send him to take out Jin
to be honest, i would be very pissed off if my friend ruined my best change for a way better life and place in society just for him to show off how cool he is , even more so because he already is on the path for that said life without fucking me over
Ryuzo being sorry as hell the second time I fought him goes so well with him being a cowering bih, “all my men are dead” bih how do you think I killed them? Why do you think I killed them? No sympathy was gained
Nah he pick that side plus jealous n envy was brewing with that man but i dont blame look the outcome for jin. He is a hero but now an outlaw cuz how he defended the island as an assassin than noble warriors. Fuck that shit its war n them Mongols we're monster n they was no other way to stop them
Honestly i think most of us would do what Ryuzu did i mean he did what had to be done to save his men
He didn’t do it to save his men. He could have done the same by saving Shimura, who would have showered them with rewards for saving him. Helping his men was a scapegoat. He was a coward who couldn’t stand being inferior to Jin
@@ntfoperative9432 Shimura would have sent them to their deaths
@@sugoi9680he could have asked for food and then helped a little bit in the end he's a coward I wouldn't even stoop down to that level of trying to join back up with the person who I betrayed after I use my starving men dying as an excuse all he did was lie and create an annoying enemies you have to face in the game they could have just simply asked to stay as Defenders and get food in return and maybe help in the final battle with their own tactics since they're not Samurai.
@@Automaton2337 You're thinking with a gamified mindset. He made a judgement call and lost that's all and yes he's also a coward.
Ryuzo: "I don't like you, bruh. You came at me hard at the tourney. You could've come at me softly. That's why I didn't become a samurai. Also, I didn't want you to hire me as a samurai. 'Cause that would make me look soft. I'm going to betray you, 'cause the boys and I are hungry. Yeah, that's probably me being soft. But once , you win the war, I'm going to crawl back to you and ask for forgiveness. That's not me being soft at all."
Ryuzo is the most despicable, degenerate character in this game.
Great video. Can I just say, this thing Westerners do where they sort of attempt the inflection or accent of a foreign name. No one else does this except native English speakers. You have an accent. Everyone has an accent. Just say the names/ words as you would like all English as a 2nd language speakers do. If you saw someone with a thick Japanese or Italian or Swedish accent suddenly say a random word like they were from California you'd understand how silly it sounds. But you won't, because only the west does this.
Lol, i understand exactly what youre saying. I’m Hispanic and the amount of unnecessary effort people go through to “properly” pronounce a spanish word is funny sometimes. On the same token i think its a sign of trying to respect the culture at hand. Either way, my speech isnt that strong to begin with.
Yeah.. noone cares. Engrish is a thing too and noone except ppl like you want to bitch about it.
It is obviously not an english thing, but an american thing. And if other people and cultures had as much experience dealing and interacting with intermingling cultures and languages, it would be more common elsewhere. Melting pot, remember?
Nevermind the fact this is literally how languages evolved. English is the bastard amalgamation of norse, germanic, celtic, latin, greek, aramaic, arabic, all of them brother. All the romance languages stemmed off of latin just like that. People meeting and trying to work their languages together. American english, british english and australian english are not all the same.
Which leads to another point; english speakers dont pronounce words the same. In boston a horse is a hass. In lousiana oil is ole.
Fourth... how many languages are you fluent in that you could even make such an observation? Get real, kid lmfao.
Hey, i dont really understand your point. Im referring to putting on an accent when saying a word. You dont have to change your accent. Im not even sure your response was meant for me. @fenixchief7
@@DC_Warden His point is you are whining about something that doesn't matter.
Love your red dead videos and was happy to see this!