It's amazing that they used such a big aircraft for that sort of display flying - would have been fantastic to see. Loved the recent Blue Angels documentary!
Brilliant information on very little discussed early combat of the F4 over Vietnam ... BTW ... complete nit picking but the F4 shown for Terence Murphy @5:12 showed the carrier markings as the Connie CVA-60 ... but VF-96 was apparently on the Ranger CVA-61 for that cruise. Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VF-96#Vietnam Loved the use of computer graphics brought it all to life far better than old grainy B&W video.
We actually put a link at the start of the video and in the notes for "Phantom F-4E in Australian Service" - plus we've a couple of interviews with former F-4 pilots.
I never saw F4Es in USMC markings before (~4:55). This has some interesting visuals, not all of them related directly to the topic. USS Princeton (LPH-5) is an example seen around 3:00.
I remember at the 2016 Luke Days Air Show, a pilot brought a Phantom as a static display. He and the Phantom were the big dog on campus because many F-16 and 35 pilots wanted to fly it.
One of the best fighter jet ever made by McDonnell Douglas before F-15 series. I can say that Phantom’s level was equivalent to F-22 or F-35 of nowdays back in 1960s and 1970s. The South Korean Air Force (ROKAF) retired all F-4s recently and they will be replaced with locally developed fighter jet KF-21 Boramae.
If you had ever heard an F4 Phantom flying "low and slow" over a valley (I miss that sound) you would never forget it. A fabulous fighter (even without a gun) but not worth stink for ground support except for bombs. A fighter should remain a fighter. For ground attack and infantry support the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt is the king. No doubt.
The F-4 Phantom II was good at its job early on with mid / long range engagements, however after a few friendly kill incidents the top brass decided that fighters must make visual contact or visual identification before they can shoot to kill... and so this bought the F-4 Phantom II with no internal gun into dog fight situations.... and naturally in that kind of situation, the F-4 Phantom II begun to rack up major losses in combat.... it lead to the development of the F-4E variants, but the Navy did not take on the F-4E....
It should be obvious by now that we are not a "clickbait RUclipsr" but in-game footage affords us to illustrate stories that otherwise wouldn't have the footage or we are left with photos. If it's more engaging for the viewer and we are trying our best to be true to the aircraft type/history, I don't see it as a problem. We've had a disclaimer (see any of our video descriptions) that explains our use of 'recreated scenes'.
@@raafdocumentaries My recommendation is: don't. Rather shorten the video instead of keeping it longer by inserting fake imagery into otherwise factual and real footage. Do not force the user to scrutinize the details of the displayed imagery to determine if it is fake or not. It is distracting. If you must include fake imagery, then label it clearly with a watermark. Realize that some fake imagery is quite realistic and it takes time for users to discern what they are looking at. Your argument about increased engagement is precisely what I dislike-using fake imagery, which is often hard to distinguish from genuine footage, to keep users engaged. That is shady. Disclaimers? Who reads them? Alibistic. "Being true to history" is incompatible with the use of unlabeled fakes.
The first incident on 2 August did happen when the USS Maddox intel ship was attacked by North Vietnamese torpedo boats. The second alleged incident on 4 Aug never occurred. The skipper of the Maddox, CAPT Herrick, initially reported radar and sonar contacts which the crew did actually fire on, but the same night CAPT Herrick reported that those were probably in fact weather anomolies.
I want this man to narrate everything on RUclips from now on
Awesome use of the new dcs module.
The THUNDERBIRDS & BLUE ANGELS both flew the PHANTOM at the sametime.
It's amazing that they used such a big aircraft for that sort of display flying - would have been fantastic to see. Loved the recent Blue Angels documentary!
Phantom is a legend !!
This was so cool to watch. Never knew the beginning of these aircrafts. My favorite fighter plane ever
Brilliant information on very little discussed early combat of the F4 over Vietnam ... BTW ... complete nit picking but the F4 shown for Terence Murphy @5:12 showed the carrier markings as the Connie CVA-60 ... but VF-96 was apparently on the Ranger CVA-61 for that cruise. Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VF-96#Vietnam Loved the use of computer graphics brought it all to life far better than old grainy B&W video.
Odd that this channel made no mention of F-4s in Australian service. We had our own 'first Phantom' experience. Cheers Bill H. (ex RAAF)
They have a separate video just on the F-4 in Australian service from maybe about a year or so ago
We actually put a link at the start of the video and in the notes for "Phantom F-4E in Australian Service" - plus we've a couple of interviews with former F-4 pilots.
I never saw F4Es in USMC markings before (~4:55). This has some interesting visuals, not all of them related directly to the topic. USS Princeton (LPH-5) is an example seen around 3:00.
That is because the video creator used DCS F-4E Phantom II to create footage. USMC didn't use F-4Es.
I remember at the 2016 Luke Days Air Show, a pilot brought a Phantom as a static display. He and the Phantom were the big dog on campus because many F-16 and 35 pilots wanted to fly it.
This combat jet an iconic warrior of Vietnam War for brave pilots a modern engeeniering piece.
One of the best fighter jet ever made by McDonnell Douglas before F-15 series. I can say that Phantom’s level was equivalent to F-22 or F-35 of nowdays back in 1960s and 1970s. The South Korean Air Force (ROKAF) retired all F-4s recently and they will be replaced with locally developed fighter jet KF-21 Boramae.
What's with the A/G ordy loaded in the AIM-7 wells at 2:00? I can absolutely guarantee this loadout did not exist on USN/USMC variants... : P
Phantastic plane👍✈️
If you had ever heard an F4 Phantom flying "low and slow" over a valley (I miss that sound) you would never forget it. A fabulous fighter (even without a gun) but not worth stink for ground support except for bombs. A fighter should remain a fighter. For ground attack and infantry support the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt is the king. No doubt.
The F-4 Phantom II was good at its job early on with mid / long range engagements, however after a few friendly kill incidents the top brass decided that fighters must make visual contact or visual identification before they can shoot to kill... and so this bought the F-4 Phantom II with no internal gun into dog fight situations.... and naturally in that kind of situation, the F-4 Phantom II begun to rack up major losses in combat.... it lead to the development of the F-4E variants, but the Navy did not take on the F-4E....
The F-4E was terribly unsuited to the main role of USN Phantoms, namely detecting and engaging large Soviet bombers at long range and over water.
@@Chilly_Billy That was not the role for the Phantom IIs anyway, thats why they developed the F-14 as the Fleet Defender
2:24 Mk 82 is usually pronounced as Mark 82
I'm hoping to see more Australian footage.
You've made that know a number of times and more Australian content is in the works. Hold on! It's coming.
!What misterbig9025 said!
I'll wait...
Damn that's some sweet cgi.
thats DCS
With inaccurate tail codes and paint schemes galore. The thumbnail shows F-4s in 1980s Ferris camo, so much for "first phantoms".
DCS F-4E Phantom II shoehorned into other variants.
Make a video on Japanese 6th gen aircraft and bae tempest also.
What are the differences in the Phantoms flown by the Air Force and Navy?
Two words.....
ADVERSE
YAW
Why was Oz even involved in Vietnam?
The Good old NATO Diesel!
Please, don't use in-game footage. This is a hallmark of clickbait RUclipsrs. Real-world label + videos of gameplay. Nah.
"Crystal Kingdom denies your request, proceed with hostilities"
It should be obvious by now that we are not a "clickbait RUclipsr" but in-game footage affords us to illustrate stories that otherwise wouldn't have the footage or we are left with photos. If it's more engaging for the viewer and we are trying our best to be true to the aircraft type/history, I don't see it as a problem. We've had a disclaimer (see any of our video descriptions) that explains our use of 'recreated scenes'.
@@raafdocumentaries My recommendation is: don't. Rather shorten the video instead of keeping it longer by inserting fake imagery into otherwise factual and real footage.
Do not force the user to scrutinize the details of the displayed imagery to determine if it is fake or not. It is distracting. If you must include fake imagery, then label it clearly with a watermark. Realize that some fake imagery is quite realistic and it takes time for users to discern what they are looking at.
Your argument about increased engagement is precisely what I dislike-using fake imagery, which is often hard to distinguish from genuine footage, to keep users engaged. That is shady. Disclaimers? Who reads them? Alibistic.
"Being true to history" is incompatible with the use of unlabeled fakes.
@@xuldevelopers geez man.
@@xuldevelopers BOOHOO, WOMP WOMP, WA WA WA.
Tonkin based on a lie
The first incident on 2 August did happen when the USS Maddox intel ship was attacked by North Vietnamese torpedo boats. The second alleged incident on 4 Aug never occurred. The skipper of the Maddox, CAPT Herrick, initially reported radar and sonar contacts which the crew did actually fire on, but the same night CAPT Herrick reported that those were probably in fact weather anomolies.