First Phantoms in Vietnam

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  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • On the 5th of August 1964, the US Navy begins operations of a new aircraft over Vietnam. This new multirole aircraft - the F4 Phantom - will come to define Vietnam War era jet combat, but during these early missions the aircraft was still a work in progress. Today we look at the story of the first F4s in Vietnam.
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Комментарии • 45

  • @jonathanflugge3557
    @jonathanflugge3557 3 месяца назад +12

    The THUNDERBIRDS & BLUE ANGELS both flew the PHANTOM at the sametime.

    • @raafdocumentaries
      @raafdocumentaries  3 месяца назад +8

      It's amazing that they used such a big aircraft for that sort of display flying - would have been fantastic to see. Loved the recent Blue Angels documentary!

  • @BillHalliwell
    @BillHalliwell 3 месяца назад +7

    Odd that this channel made no mention of F-4s in Australian service. We had our own 'first Phantom' experience. Cheers Bill H. (ex RAAF)

    • @550r
      @550r 3 месяца назад +4

      They have a separate video just on the F-4 in Australian service from maybe about a year or so ago

    • @raafdocumentaries
      @raafdocumentaries  3 месяца назад +7

      We actually put a link at the start of the video and in the notes for "Phantom F-4E in Australian Service" - plus we've a couple of interviews with former F-4 pilots.

  • @misterbig9025
    @misterbig9025 3 месяца назад +6

    I'm hoping to see more Australian footage.

    • @raafdocumentaries
      @raafdocumentaries  3 месяца назад +5

      You've made that know a number of times and more Australian content is in the works. Hold on! It's coming.

    • @petethebastard
      @petethebastard 3 месяца назад

      !What misterbig9025 said!
      I'll wait...

  • @xaero76
    @xaero76 3 месяца назад +12

    The F-4 Phantom II was good at its job early on with mid / long range engagements, however after a few friendly kill incidents the top brass decided that fighters must make visual contact or visual identification before they can shoot to kill... and so this bought the F-4 Phantom II with no internal gun into dog fight situations.... and naturally in that kind of situation, the F-4 Phantom II begun to rack up major losses in combat.... it lead to the development of the F-4E variants, but the Navy did not take on the F-4E....

    • @Chilly_Billy
      @Chilly_Billy 3 месяца назад

      The F-4E was terribly unsuited to the main role of USN Phantoms, namely detecting and engaging large Soviet bombers at long range and over water.

    • @xaero76
      @xaero76 3 месяца назад +4

      @@Chilly_Billy That was not the role for the Phantom IIs anyway, thats why they developed the F-14 as the Fleet Defender

  • @jernejfunkl8300
    @jernejfunkl8300 3 месяца назад +3

    Phantom is a legend !!

  • @rackbites
    @rackbites 3 месяца назад +1

    Brilliant information on very little discussed early combat of the F4 over Vietnam ... BTW ... complete nit picking but the F4 shown for Terence Murphy @5:12 showed the carrier markings as the Connie CVA-60 ... but VF-96 was apparently on the Ranger CVA-61 for that cruise. Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VF-96#Vietnam Loved the use of computer graphics brought it all to life far better than old grainy B&W video.

  • @smoh7793
    @smoh7793 3 месяца назад +4

    Awesome use of the new dcs module.

  • @freedom_seeker06
    @freedom_seeker06 Месяц назад

    One of the best fighter jet ever made by McDonnell Douglas before F-15 series. I can say that Phantom’s level was equivalent to F-22 or F-35 of nowdays back in 1960s and 1970s. The South Korean Air Force (ROKAF) retired all F-4s recently and they will be replaced with locally developed fighter jet KF-21 Boramae.

  • @ebinoregon8647
    @ebinoregon8647 3 месяца назад

    If you had ever heard an F4 Phantom flying "low and slow" over a valley (I miss that sound) you would never forget it. A fabulous fighter (even without a gun) but not worth stink for ground support except for bombs. A fighter should remain a fighter. For ground attack and infantry support the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt is the king. No doubt.

  • @DesMen-i9z
    @DesMen-i9z 3 месяца назад

    What are the differences in the Phantoms flown by the Air Force and Navy?

  • @BruceK10032
    @BruceK10032 3 месяца назад +1

    I never saw F4Es in USMC markings before (~4:55). This has some interesting visuals, not all of them related directly to the topic. USS Princeton (LPH-5) is an example seen around 3:00.

    • @FirstDagger
      @FirstDagger Месяц назад +1

      That is because the video creator used DCS F-4E Phantom II to create footage. USMC didn't use F-4Es.

  • @shailendrakumarsuman4628
    @shailendrakumarsuman4628 3 месяца назад

    Make a video on Japanese 6th gen aircraft and bae tempest also.

  • @JohnComeOnMan
    @JohnComeOnMan 3 месяца назад +4

    Damn that's some sweet cgi.

    • @dunbar555
      @dunbar555 3 месяца назад +2

      thats DCS

    • @MOTV88
      @MOTV88 3 месяца назад +1

      With inaccurate tail codes and paint schemes galore. The thumbnail shows F-4s in 1980s Ferris camo, so much for "first phantoms".

    • @FirstDagger
      @FirstDagger Месяц назад +1

      DCS F-4E Phantom II shoehorned into other variants.

  • @FirstDagger
    @FirstDagger Месяц назад

    2:24 Mk 82 is usually pronounced as Mark 82

  • @allgood6760
    @allgood6760 2 месяца назад

    Phantastic plane👍✈️

  • @Avofan
    @Avofan 3 месяца назад

    I remember at the 2016 Luke Days Air Show, a pilot brought a Phantom as a static display. He and the Phantom were the big dog on campus because many F-16 and 35 pilots wanted to fly it.

  • @armandowar88
    @armandowar88 2 месяца назад

    This was so cool to watch. Never knew the beginning of these aircrafts. My favorite fighter plane ever

  • @humbertolucianohernandezda8590
    @humbertolucianohernandezda8590 3 месяца назад

    This combat jet an iconic warrior of Vietnam War for brave pilots a modern engeeniering piece.

  • @xuldevelopers
    @xuldevelopers 3 месяца назад +2

    Please, don't use in-game footage. This is a hallmark of clickbait RUclipsrs. Real-world label + videos of gameplay. Nah.

    • @Gigachadent
      @Gigachadent 3 месяца назад

      "Crystal Kingdom denies your request, proceed with hostilities"

    • @raafdocumentaries
      @raafdocumentaries  3 месяца назад +5

      It should be obvious by now that we are not a "clickbait RUclipsr" but in-game footage affords us to illustrate stories that otherwise wouldn't have the footage or we are left with photos. If it's more engaging for the viewer and we are trying our best to be true to the aircraft type/history, I don't see it as a problem. We've had a disclaimer (see any of our video descriptions) that explains our use of 'recreated scenes'.

    • @xuldevelopers
      @xuldevelopers 3 месяца назад

      @@raafdocumentaries My recommendation is: don't. Rather shorten the video instead of keeping it longer by inserting fake imagery into otherwise factual and real footage.
      Do not force the user to scrutinize the details of the displayed imagery to determine if it is fake or not. It is distracting. If you must include fake imagery, then label it clearly with a watermark. Realize that some fake imagery is quite realistic and it takes time for users to discern what they are looking at.
      Your argument about increased engagement is precisely what I dislike-using fake imagery, which is often hard to distinguish from genuine footage, to keep users engaged. That is shady. Disclaimers? Who reads them? Alibistic.
      "Being true to history" is incompatible with the use of unlabeled fakes.

    • @vincen.3590
      @vincen.3590 3 месяца назад +1

      @@xuldevelopers geez man.

    • @smoh7793
      @smoh7793 3 месяца назад +1

      @@xuldevelopers BOOHOO, WOMP WOMP, WA WA WA.

  • @Jonsonsan
    @Jonsonsan 3 месяца назад

    The Good old NATO Diesel!

  • @godfree2canada
    @godfree2canada 3 месяца назад +1

    Tonkin based on a lie

    • @RatherCrunchyMuffin
      @RatherCrunchyMuffin 3 месяца назад +2

      The first incident on 2 August did happen when the USS Maddox intel ship was attacked by North Vietnamese torpedo boats. The second alleged incident on 4 Aug never occurred. The skipper of the Maddox, CAPT Herrick, initially reported radar and sonar contacts which the crew did actually fire on, but the same night CAPT Herrick reported that those were probably in fact weather anomolies.

  • @Jim-nt7xy
    @Jim-nt7xy 3 месяца назад

    Why was Oz even involved in Vietnam?