Top Aces of the Vietnam War

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Комментарии • 16

  • @hangie65
    @hangie65 Месяц назад +4

    Very good film and run-down of the aces on both sides during the Vietnam conflict. The air war in Vietnam is a complex subject, with tactics evolving and airplanes changing as the conflict progressed. Although this was covered to some extent in the film (like the use of ground control intercept by both sides) , this context is extremely important to keep in mind when discussing any aspect of the air war, including aces.

  • @SilverforceX
    @SilverforceX Месяц назад +4

    Amazing that NV flying obsolete fighters, with obsolete weapon systems and still manage to perform.

  • @royboiiiluo6178
    @royboiiiluo6178 Месяц назад +4

    4:53 Shengyang J-9 isn’t a real plane, I think you meant to refer to Shengyang J-5 or J-6 copies of MiG-17/19, J-9 was a Chengdu aircraft factory’s failed project.

  • @khaldrago911
    @khaldrago911 Месяц назад +2

    Amazing vid, bruh. Keep up the great work! 👍

  • @kevinquinn7645
    @kevinquinn7645 Месяц назад +2

    Both Feinstein and DeBellevue later re-trained as pilots flying the F-4. Their choice was to enter pilot training or discharge as the USAF, especially for Debellevue, didn't want non-pilots as their highest scoring aces.

    • @anantaprimawan2234
      @anantaprimawan2234 Месяц назад

      The USAF's decision can be understood because people see that both of them can be aces just because they are LUCKY in one plane with a great pilot. Indeed, a RIO/WSO also has a hand in aerial duels but still whether the result is won or lost is determined by the skill of the pilot while the RIO/WSO just considered a lucky passenger if the pilot wins or unlucky if the pilot loses while for Debellevue his record was 6 kills so he became the top ace of the Vietnam War for the USAF because his score was even higher than Ritchie or Cunningham (NAVY) The USAF would probably be embarrassed because of him is not a fighter pilot while the enemy not only consists of real fighter pilots but also their number is greater with a higher score than that achieved by Debellevue

    • @kevinquinn7645
      @kevinquinn7645 Месяц назад

      @@anantaprimawan2234 I am not sure they were lucky. As discussed in the video, Ritchie flew F-4Ds equipped with Combat Tree system that allowed bandits to be identified by the WSO via the MiG's IFF transponders, allowing them to be engaged BVR. This made the WSO a key part of the team in each victory and deserving being credited with the kill.

  • @bestestusername
    @bestestusername Месяц назад

    Brilliant episode

  • @haixinshang2495
    @haixinshang2495 15 дней назад

    They were Shenyang J-6s, not J-9s. At 4:51.

  • @misterbig9025
    @misterbig9025 Месяц назад +2

    Any Australian pilot scoring during Vietnam war?

    • @AlanToon-fy4hg
      @AlanToon-fy4hg Месяц назад

      No.

    • @khaldrago911
      @khaldrago911 Месяц назад

      нет товарищ

    • @raafdocumentaries
      @raafdocumentaries  Месяц назад +3

      RAAF provided transport (Caribou, UH-1 Iroquois) and bombing (English Electric Canberra). Not sure if there were any Aussies who were flying for the USAF who got any kills.

    • @kevinquinn7645
      @kevinquinn7645 Месяц назад +1

      The RAAF provided air defence of the Ubon base in Thailand that the USAF operated from as part of the Five Power Defence Agreement, with 79SQN flying the Avon Sabre but did not fly missions in Vietnam. Robin Olds referred to 79SQN as TWA (Teeny Weeny Airforce) and arranged for them to fly Dissimilar Air Combat Training (DACT) with the his squadron's F-4s as the Sabre provided a good proxy for the MIG 17s and 19s they faced.

    • @anantaprimawan2234
      @anantaprimawan2234 Месяц назад +1

      @@kevinquinn7645 If that's true, it means Robin Olds was the first person to initiate a program like TOP GUN long before the original top gun school was opened by the US NAVY.