@@joetrey215 Embraer has always been in the Military Market. Its first plane was a Licensed Aermacchi Military Jet Trainer, their first fully developed military plane, the Tucano, is being produced since early 80’s.
The C130 was an incredible aircraft, but its time has passed, the market demanded something modern, Embraer understood the market and brought this new product that is conquering its space.
@@neblinaspfor who? Unless the US buys it (which I won’t and if it did would put over 30,000 people out of a job) it’s not going to sell more than a couple hundred total and that’s being optimistic.
@@superskullmastera couple of hundreds is more than good for mid-tier aircraft companies such as Embraer. I mean, how many military transport aircraft sold in this millennium? Open wars are getting rarer these days, there would be hardly any huge military procurement
The interesting thing is Embraer is tiny compared to Airbus and Boeing, but all their products are excellent. They have 5 different business jets which are all very competitive in that market.
@@android584 That's right. There were other reasons too, like production capacity and maybe an entry into business jets which Embraer are very good at.
@@android584 Boeing rather wanted to react to Airbus purchase of part of Bombardier, which is where the A220 came from, Boeing wanted something to compete against the A220, which is why they wanted to buy Embraer..
I`m very happy that my government (Austria) decided to purchase 4 these planes. They will serve as an urgent replacement for our aging fleet of 4 C-130K (only 3 are operational) which were bought as already "used" stuff from the UK. In 2015 the 4th plane was bought to serve as a donor for spare parts ^^ - while the other 3 have been in service for 57 years (36 years RAF, 21 years Austrian Air Force)
If 80 million dollars is cheap to you ..hey can you send me just tiny 30 million?? Yeah I know it's nothing just a couple of pennies but I'm missing a few 😉👍😁💪👏👏😂💯🏆
@@neblinasp a country where so many many many people die of hunger every day and most are children lets also not forget about them , 80 mil buys many meals so its a lot of money!🙏
It's our way for everything! :) There's a saying here in Brazil, about our struggles in the dayli life: "Brazil it's not for amateurs." Thank you for the compliment!! Greetings from Brasil!
@@KOROSTYdear friend, I understand ur concern, but we have to delivery food, water and a whole bunch of other stuff to Brazilians in Amazon, for example. Renew the fleet it's extremely necessary. It's a continental country. I'm Brazilian, by the way.
I wish my government (Colombia) purchased a lot of these, this is just perfect for the Armed Forces, tons of operations and places in the jungle without paved ways, the engine is super common here, Brazil is near for service, the public airline and thr VIP transport jets already are E jets, and the Air Force already has counterinsurgency planes as Super Tucano. There are a lot of armored infantry vehicles and equipment that could be moved to red zones asap with this. Fingers crossed for one day we have at least 4 of them, as we already have a lot of old American transport planes to be phased out.
@@pradhyudh Maybe some systems can be designed and integrated in India, but the base aircraft I don't believe it will. Because several parts are from US manufacturers and are under US restrictions and Embraer has to comply with the US rules. There are a lot of politics involved in this. But Embraer had partened with India in some surveillance aircraft project, I think that there will be some partnership in this as well. Greetings from Brazil
Brazil will occasionally take risky but successful leaps in it's military industry. This is the case with the a-darter and mar-1 missiles. They tend to very specific needs of the military and take long to develop but since it's homegrown technology it benefits the capabilities of Brazil as whole.
totally right. The nuclear submarine for example, it's in development since 2009 and it is expected to have the first one completed by 2030. But it will also be a game changer. Long time investments pays off
Não amigo, a Embraer foi criada por dois amigos militares na época apoiados pelo então presidente militar, hoje a Embraer e uma empresa sólida e bem sucedida com produtos de qualidade, mas sem qualquer ligação com a área militar que a propósito é uma piada...
Magnificent Aircraft! Congratulations to the Brazilians for this remarkable engineering project, minimizing maintenance/production costs and making it more efficient/cheaper than its competitors. Congratulations! 👋👋👋
It was recently shown to the South African Air force as a potential replacement to the Hercs and long decommissioned Transall aircraft. It is a very good aircraft all things considered. Regards from South Africa
I got to see one of them about 5 years ago when I was in aviation mechanic school, was out on break and saw it across the airport, took me a minute to look up what it was, 2 years later I was working on embraer 145s and 175s
@DrVictorVasconcelos they weren't bad, I no longer work on them but the 175 was really nice to work on and 145 was a bit tighter and at 6'2" I had to walk through it hunched over and it was just a lot older but they were good planes to work on overall
Jets have poor taxi performance over sodden ground so its going to be problems in unprepared runways and beeches which C130 and A400M can operate on.. I will never accede to my country buying a Brazilian Military product. Brazil will never fight for freedom or help another country defend itself or stand on principle. It will just sit there with its Russian and Chinese dictatorship friends. No defense money should ever go to Brazil
That's what you get when Brazil and Argentina conduct joint ventures together! hence the Brazil flag the Argentine flag and the Chec flag on the aircraft.
I think I see what you’re getting at, and aerial fire fighting is especially important today. Not only due to changing weather patterns as a result of climate change (I’m sorry bud, but the entire world has just gone 3 summers in a row with record temperatures. It’s been over 100 degrees here nearly every day, whereas, when I was growing up, I remember getting excited when a 100+ degree day came around because it was such a rarity. Denying it was silly. Now it’s downright delusional. Come to terms with that). On top of less consistent rains and longer, hotter droughts caused by climate change, aerial firefighting fleets around the world are aging out of service. Most firefighting aircraft were surplus from WWII and The Cold War. The long period of relative peace after the fall of the Soviet Union meant the world’s militaries stopped building so many aircraft. As aircraft became more & more complex, raw numbers produced had been generally declining every decade from the end of WWII. All this combined meant less and less surplus aircraft available for fire fighting. So, right as demand for aerial firefighting aircraft is reaching new heights, supply of aircraft suitable to perform that role has never been lower. That alone is enough to mean future demand for aerial firefighting aircraft will only grow from where it is today. No matter how you cut it, you’re just wrong. Firefighting aircraft are more relevant today than in the past. Instead of acting smart while being stupid, you could try just being smart, like me. Now, I took the time to explain to you why you’re wrong, this time. Don’t expect others to be so generous with their time. Next time you’re about to say something you feel is smart, search for all the ways you might be wrong. You’re going to need to be humble enough to admit you may not have as good of a grasp on a subject as once thought, but as long as you do that you’ll slowly learn how to be less dumb. It’s a win for everybody.
It’s very simple !!! We are finishing building the ARMORED and ARMED version of the KC 390 GUNSHIP the best . The plane’s c 130 retirement has been annouced.
@@claudiorocha2973sure buddy, given the fact that Embraer has delivered 9 planes in 9 years we are all convinced that the gunship version is about to be certified.
A nice new aircraft, the large cockpit windows do indeed make it looking smaller than the actual size without a reference next to it. But the load capacity is surprisingly high for the size too. The C-160 Transall is not much smaller but has a much lower capacity, range, speed and service ceiling. it was a plane of the 60s after all. The cockpit looks very modern and clean. Good to hear that the Netherlands is replacing its aging C-130 fleet with these which will give better performance at lower exploitation costs. Army transports make probably the most flying hours of all military planes with maybe the exception of the coast guard.
Definitely. Embraer is pretty much the co-producer of SAAB J39E Gripen, arguably one of the top five fighter jets in existence, especially considering price/performance. I'm worried about the political trend in Brazil right now, tbh.
@@henrikg1388 Former government did everything they could to sell embraer to boeing for peanuts but fortunately boeing is going downhill and the whole thing didn't go through.
If you wonder why the aircraft has the Argentine, Czech and Portuguese flags besides the Brazilian one it's because Embraer offered joint collaboration on the manufacturing. In the case of Argentina FADEA Aircraft factory produces part of the ramp, the tail cone and the covers of the wheel doors.
@@mxrz yep. Part of it is in FADEA. The cargo ramp has several parts. I just check it back and they changed things..no longer part of the ramp, now the electronics racks, flap fairings.
As a brazilian, it's too good to see Embraer got this level of excellence with a cargo plane. All the word is stretching his arms out to grab a KC-399. So proud I am.
Regarding the "civilianised" versions - selling them as freighters would likely tap into a large market as they could dramatically reduce handling costs/turnaround times for palletised transport
It would take 4 trips to equal the weight of a MD 11 but in North America and Europe infrastructure is good and paved runways are many. In Africa and South America they could be useful and the DC 3 is running out of time and replacement parts,, fuel too
@genebohannon8820 MD11s can't be rapidly loaded/unloaded using ground level equipment and I'm thinking of things like Convair CV580 size (7 ton payload), which are used by a lot of regional couriers but getting extremely long in the tooth In one case I'm aware of, one of these was replaced with a A320F for capacity reasons, although the operator would have preferred an aircraft with faster turnaround which would have enabled 2 route circuits/day instead of one with bigger capacity but which could only make 1 circuit
Yes, I'm sure none of the guys who do that for a living and spend billions of dollars buying equipment have ever thought of that or considered the costs and risks involved. Good thing you are smarter then they are, you should send them an email, maybe they need to hear that. Aviation is a very complex business and there are a ton of considerations when it comes to purchasing new equipment. It's extremely expensive, you have to get it right. Initial cost will be higher for a smaller volume, maintenance costs are usually higher on military aircraft. They have they specific range and payload requirements. The cost of the aircraft is negotiated with each contract, and larger companies can afford to take a loss to gain or keep clients, the maintenance and service package is a huge part of the contract. If they aren't competitive in that aspect, being slightly easier to load cargo isn't going to outweigh the other considerations. They also rarely have any need for rough field operation or short field, so all of that capacity is just extra weight and expense as far as commercial lines are concerned. They don't need a military jet, which is designed to do things commercial jets can't. Which costs money. There is a reason cargo lines haven't been using C-5s or C-130s. Only very specialized lines which fly into rugged areas need stuff like that. And you can get a very cheap 737 that can fly into gravel airfields and take any standard pallets. How is this better? Because it is slightly easier to load it? If a plane like this made any sense it would be for carrying _non_ standard cargo thst can't fit into a normal cargo jet, or flying into really remote fields. None of that has a very big demand. Most lines are just trucking pallets between big airports, and they put a lot of thought into reducing costs as much as they can. If they are going to buy this, they would have already.
@@justforever96 Talking down to me says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about me. I suggest you pull your head in as your foreskin is showing
In the wild fires of 2024 the kc390 has dropped over 25000 gallons or 1 million liters of water with the fire fighting kit The airplane is amazing and had impressive availability. So proud of Brazilian engineering
This is an excellent video describing an excellent airplane. I am really impressed by your clear, concise, and highly informative documentary of what may become a very popular transport aircraft. Well done!
This aircraft (or at least the civil version) would find a lot of use during the summer months serving locations in Canada and Alaska which are otherwise only accessible during the winter months via trucks running on roads made of packed snow and/or frozen over lakes (made famous by the Discovery channel show "Ice Road Truckers"). Even during the winter months they would be useful in this niche, because they would allow things like evacuating injured people to areas with better medical facilities, or you could turn one into a flying hospital/operating room and do the whole "if the patient can't go to the hospital, bring the hospital to the patient" tactic. I can see a lot use in that second idea even in the US, particularly after things like tornadoes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters wreak havoc on the existing facilities even if the people that would usually staff those facilities are unharmed (a surgeon needs a hospital in order to operate, after all, and the natural disasters are very able to just wipe even a hospital off the map, especially with global warming only pumping more energy into hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, floods, and landslides, which is basically any natural disaster that's not an earthquake or volcanic eruption, so it's the majority of all of them). Not to mention that these would probably find a decently sized niche in the USA serving lower volume airports with air freight, for instance my city has an airport that can handle 737's and that sort of plane but there's not enough passenger traffic so it's instead served (not very frequently) by smaller jets instead. This C-390 (or at least the civil version) would probably be the perfect size for the air freight needs of my city, and is already well served with a sufficiently large road to handle heavy truck traffic from that airport to the city proper, so it would make sense for UPS or another cargo carrier to set up a facility at that airport.
Have you worked up in Arctic Alaska? You seem to be very knowledgeable on this subject. I’m just wondering because I worked in the Alaska oil fields and along the pipeline for 33 years and I don’t see a practical use for these. There are already established runways and helicopters available all across the North Slope. There are also established air freight services. I also spent a couple years traveling around Alaska for my job. Another thing is this is to expensive. Air freight planes are older 737s and DC-9s for flying freight to bush hubs. They could never make a profit paying for a new plane.
Well... the C-390 has already been qualified for freezing climates (certification took place in Antarctica), but I don't think they will want to invest in that, continuing to use the old planes.
@@sonnymagalhaes9203 Older planes are a thing here. There is even a DC-6 that flys over our house sometimes carrying freight to a gold mine. Most of the flights are less than 500 miles. Most villages have runways at least 5,000 feet long. I worked for a company that flew techs to these villages in a Cessna 560 with a gravel kit.
@@sonnymagalhaes9203 I am always amazed at the performance of aircraft in real cold temperatures. I used to commute to work in mostly 737s and taking off at -45 the plane jumps right off the ground in the dense air.
@@Chris_at_Home Yes it is true, this is a feeling that i still don't know. What remains now is to hope that the lobby doesn't speak louder than necessity, but... to be honest, i don't have much faith that this will happen.
What a fantastic presentation. It comes across as a mystery novel, each new page(old school term) brings in new information. I am half way through the clip and I still don't know how it will conclude.
Embraer was created as a military company, despite acting in the civilian market, they were conceived as a state company to produce planes to FAB (Brazilian air force)
Some people believe that Embraer wanted to insinuate that its C-390 aircraft is three times better than the C-130, but this is not true. Embraer has a code for its projects with 3 digits, the 1st is '1' for commercial models (examples 190 or 195) and '3' for military models (examples 314 Super Tucano and 390 Millennium), the '90' for C-390 is probably due to the fact that initially the idea was to use the wing of the EMB-190 (to reduce costs and time for launch), which was soon discarded for a wing of a completely new design, optimized for a military multi-mission aircraft.
She's just missing the wingtip extensions. She'd make a great special operations transport and "fast gunship". The armament for the gunship could include two M134 mini guns and one M61 20mm cannon along with night vision and targeting avionics.
Great video as always. Thanks! I actually think it looks great. Chunky-functional. It looks so purposeful..... this thing does what it says on the tin.
The Hercules is a great aircraft……wow. The Hercules was invented/innovated in 1955 or was that the B-52? The C-130 is such a legend it would be hard to replace it as it is a flying legend! I think our Airforce has ordered new C-130’s, Love to Brazil from the smallest most isolated most beautiful country in the World, New Zealand!
Over the years I've developed a fondness for Embraer. I never really disliked them, at most I was indifferent. Over the years, seeing more and more competent work from them... well it adds up (and I mean competent in the best way possible... if I was going for "well, it works" I would use "adequate"). These days when I hear their name my reaction is generally something positive along the lines of "oh hey, what are they up to now". edit: Yeah, it does look a little small without additional context, but I wouldn't call it unsightly. Its kind of cute tbh. edit 2: For what its worth; I'm from the US. In terms of weapons, like infantry rifles, cruisers or fighters, ideally we should be making those ourselves. But when it comes to other things, such as vehicles used for logistics, there is much to be gained by taking a good serious look at what other countries are offering. Another example to go along with this jet/company would be the South Korean shipbuilding industry. I don't want them building American destroyers, but their ability to build the more mundane ships that are essential is perhaps the best in the world.
As an American I can confidently say that Lockheed would spend millions to develop their own light jet transport rather than let the C-390 into the United States. They might try to even get laws or tariffs on foreign aircraft instated.
They’ve lost every foreign sale they’ve competed for with the C-130J against the C-390 over the last year. The C-130 is done and Lockheed has nothing new in the pipeline.
Great run down! Those Kawasakis are engineered like an American project. Very capable and impressive but overly expensive. The Embraer attitude is better for most users IMO. Plus i just want one.
Japan is extremely closed and they hide all information, so the outside world thinks they only make good stuff. But in reality, the C-2 has many problems, such as fuselage cracks.
i like your videos. You do a great job. Your voice talent is also totally awesome. Please never AI it up. Great work fam. Commenting so that “the algorithm” recommends more good stuff like yours.
I'm convinced; if I need a Military cargo aircraft or a private jet - I think C390 Embraer would be a great pick it has a fantastic ferry range. Who needs a bespoke interior when you can just use stock couches and ratchet straps!
Lockheed & Boeing would never allow it. Look at what happened when Merlin won the presidential chopper contract & Airbus the Tanker one. Both over turned despite being build in the USA by US workers.
Great video, as usual. Two notes, first, the C-17 definitely still trains and uses thrust reversers in tactical descents. Second, "suite" is pronounced like "sweet". Insignificant to the quality of the video, which I enjoyed very much. Thank you!
Very nice presentation. Govt. of India is planning to swap its LCA Tejas with Brazil for C-390s in a barter trade, although in early stages. Can you help me with the background music of the last section (orders and deliveries) please?
Unlike Airbus this plane as Active Sidesticks giving excellent tactile feedback. This means in Airbus if you shake the left sidestick the right one stays still. But in C-390 the other stick will also move. Even Airbus latest machine A350 does not have this.
Not really a surprise, North Americans tend to think of all of South America as pretty much the same, the typical "mud huts and tin horn dictators" cliche. But Brazil is actually a quite modern and economical successful nation, only small compared to the few on the very top of the list. They are more than capable of building quality aircraft and automobiles, have been for a long time.
Big punch fot C-390 program development Few days ago The American L3Harris has withdrawn from a partnership with the Brazilian Embraer to introduce the C-390 Millennium transport aircraft to the US market. The partnership, announced in 2022, initially assumed that L3Harris would equip the aircraft with American mission systems, including a refueling probe, creating the KC-390. According to Breaking Defense sources at Embraer Defense and Security, the American company decided not to continue the cooperation due to other priorities .There are many indications that L3Harris was forced to abandon its partnership with Embraer in order not to create intra-American competition. The C-390 is trying to compete with the C-130 Hercules, which has been used by the US Air Force for decades. Moreover, as a potential flying tanker, the KC-390 might not meet the USAF's requirements under the Next Generation Air Refueling System (NGAS) program. Closed dors for C-390 and kC-390 in USA
At some point, even the Herc will have to be replaced, and I don't see any American designs to fill the looming void. This would be a golden opportunity for inter-American co-operation.
This is a beautiful aircraft, maybe a bit ugly but I love the look of it looks like it has so much purpose I would love to be on one of these, I love the thrust reverse concept
I worked at an airport and the "E-Jets" are very well respected. Congrats to our Brazilian friends.
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Thank you!! 😊
They are cheap and reliable
Um abraço pra você amigo
Hopefully they can pull off another stunt, successfully introducing a 737 and 320 competitor?
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"Decides to enter the military market" - Embraer has been in the military market since it was established in 1969.
literally this,
man why would they phrase it like that?
the Sentence continues ... where it was already present, but relatively modestly...
@@joetrey215 Embraer has always been in the Military Market. Its first plane was a Licensed Aermacchi Military Jet Trainer, their first fully developed military plane, the Tucano, is being produced since early 80’s.
It's a content mill. No excuse, just the truth.
Better would been military transport market. This still is new territory and very different from producing small super light aircrafts^^
The fire fighting isn’t test anymore, it’s already in use this moment in Brazil.
Australia will no doubt be in touch by Christmas...🇦🇺
I'm brazilian and I can confirm it.
Mexicana de Aviacion just ordered 20 airplanes from EMBRAER. Fortunately, the Brasileños takes care of that company. Buen trabajo Brasileños
Mexicana de Aviación? Didn't they go bankrupt like 15 years ago?
@@yibithehispanicnew company same name
@@Joao_MPrado Oh I get it
Gracias, hermano!
Vai mais longe, leva mais carga, voa mais rápido, está melhor preparado, custa menos, menor custo de manutenção, um só faz o serviço de dois etc.
The first hungarian C-390 just arrived in Europe to enter service in their air force.
How many rubles was it?
As a former C-130 Crewchief this plane looks awesome.
Imagine having toilets!
The C130 was an incredible aircraft, but its time has passed, the market demanded something modern, Embraer understood the market and brought this new product that is conquering its space.
@@neblinaspfor who? Unless the US buys it (which I won’t and if it did would put over 30,000 people out of a job) it’s not going to sell more than a couple hundred total and that’s being optimistic.
@@superskullmastera couple of hundreds is more than good for mid-tier aircraft companies such as Embraer. I mean, how many military transport aircraft sold in this millennium? Open wars are getting rarer these days, there would be hardly any huge military procurement
The interesting thing is Embraer is tiny compared to Airbus and Boeing, but all their products are excellent. They have 5 different business jets which are all very competitive in that market.
Boeing wanted to merge with them just for their engineers if I understood correct.
@@android584 That's right. There were other reasons too, like production capacity and maybe an entry into business jets which Embraer are very good at.
@@android584 More likely to pump up share prices. Mergers and acquisition are good for showing growth
@@android584 Which they would have promptly laid off for the sake of DEI. Boeing is not the company I grew up loving.
@@android584 Boeing rather wanted to react to Airbus purchase of part of Bombardier,
which is where the A220 came from, Boeing wanted something to compete against the A220, which is why they wanted to buy Embraer..
I`m very happy that my government (Austria) decided to purchase 4 these planes. They will serve as an urgent replacement for our aging fleet of 4 C-130K (only 3 are operational) which were bought as already "used" stuff from the UK. In 2015 the 4th plane was bought to serve as a donor for spare parts ^^ - while the other 3 have been in service for 57 years (36 years RAF, 21 years Austrian Air Force)
Very soon these will be made in India The numbers should be around 45 to 60
Well damn Brazil…. there you go…. that’s a badass cargo jet you’ve got yourselves there. I like it!
Damn well..!!
Well! What the Brazil is damn for you?
@@alvorecerdourado6490 It's a figure of speech. Just like "absu-fucking-lutely"
All this time I was thinking the C-390 was a bit smaller than a C-130. Thanks for the info!
The windows really belittle the plane.
I know right? So many optical illusions on one frame😅
It looks small, but at 16:15 when I saw it in between those other passenger aircraft, it looked big.
It really appears to be so but It IS more room efficient.
Thats the brazilian way to aviation: Cheap, durable, modern and absolutely beautiful.
If 80 million dollars is cheap to you ..hey can you send me just tiny 30 million?? Yeah I know it's nothing just a couple of pennies but I'm missing a few 😉👍😁💪👏👏😂💯🏆
@@artlandmarknyc80 million dollars for a COUNTRY and not an individual person.
@@neblinasp a country where so many many many people die of hunger every day and most are children lets also not forget about them , 80 mil buys many meals so its a lot of money!🙏
It's our way for everything! :)
There's a saying here in Brazil, about our struggles in the dayli life: "Brazil it's not for amateurs."
Thank you for the compliment!!
Greetings from Brasil!
@@KOROSTYdear friend, I understand ur concern, but we have to delivery food, water and a whole bunch of other stuff to Brazilians in Amazon, for example. Renew the fleet it's extremely necessary. It's a continental country. I'm Brazilian, by the way.
The large front windows make the plane appear smaller than the c130 when in fact it is larger. Interesting optical illusion.
I wish my government (Colombia) purchased a lot of these, this is just perfect for the Armed Forces, tons of operations and places in the jungle without paved ways, the engine is super common here, Brazil is near for service, the public airline and thr VIP transport jets already are E jets, and the Air Force already has counterinsurgency planes as Super Tucano. There are a lot of armored infantry vehicles and equipment that could be moved to red zones asap with this. Fingers crossed for one day we have at least 4 of them, as we already have a lot of old American transport planes to be phased out.
Perfect.
Saludos desde Brasil hermanos colombianos! Nosotros tenemos mucho en común, una gran amazônia para cobrir!
I also wish India buys the rights and builds it in india,if tata or adani could build it, this would be a pioneer in India.
@@pradhyudh Maybe some systems can be designed and integrated in India, but the base aircraft I don't believe it will. Because several parts are from US manufacturers and are under US restrictions and Embraer has to comply with the US rules. There are a lot of politics involved in this. But Embraer had partened with India in some surveillance aircraft project, I think that there will be some partnership in this as well. Greetings from Brazil
Brazil will occasionally take risky but successful leaps in it's military industry. This is the case with the a-darter and mar-1 missiles. They tend to very specific needs of the military and take long to develop but since it's homegrown technology it benefits the capabilities of Brazil as whole.
totally right. The nuclear submarine for example, it's in development since 2009 and it is expected to have the first one completed by 2030. But it will also be a game changer. Long time investments pays off
Não amigo, a Embraer foi criada por dois amigos militares na época apoiados pelo então presidente militar, hoje a Embraer e uma empresa sólida e bem sucedida com produtos de qualidade, mas sem qualquer ligação com a área militar que a propósito é uma piada...
@@Higor... Foi a fab que financiou o kc 390
@@Higor...imagina o egoísmo e ignorância necessário para responder em português a um comentário em inglês
@@sky3_ow melhor que ser um passa fome igual você
Thank you for mentioning Collins. My dad worked at Rockwell Collins do Brasil for almost 40 years (passed away recently). Great company. 12:44
Embraer has been in the military market for decades!
Congratulations on the technical and impartial analysis of an aircraft that is the pride of my country.
Orgulho de um aviao....LOL....Voce e muito barato....lol
with the help of Argentina as well ;)
I think this aircraft has a future
Far in the future
@@Unknown_Oohhavent you heard? Sci fi has become fact, future is now
Magnificent Aircraft! Congratulations to the Brazilians for this remarkable engineering project, minimizing maintenance/production costs and making it more efficient/cheaper than its competitors. Congratulations! 👋👋👋
It was recently shown to the South African Air force as a potential replacement to the Hercs and long decommissioned Transall aircraft. It is a very good aircraft all things considered.
Regards from South Africa
Definitely SA should order this plane...from fellow country man
I got to see one of them about 5 years ago when I was in aviation mechanic school, was out on break and saw it across the airport, took me a minute to look up what it was, 2 years later I was working on embraer 145s and 175s
Do you like working on them? I've heard from other mechanics that they're very no nonsense but I have no idea what that means in practice.
@DrVictorVasconcelos they weren't bad, I no longer work on them but the 175 was really nice to work on and 145 was a bit tighter and at 6'2" I had to walk through it hunched over and it was just a lot older but they were good planes to work on overall
I’ve watched a lot of other videos about the C-390. Yours is by far, the best. Most complete, detailed, and precise. Props!
Well done Brazil the Embraer looks like a great buy.
Jets have poor taxi performance over sodden ground so its going to be problems in unprepared runways and beeches which C130 and A400M can operate on.. I will never accede to my country buying a Brazilian Military product. Brazil will never fight for freedom or help another country defend itself or stand on principle. It will just sit there with its Russian and Chinese dictatorship friends. No defense money should ever go to Brazil
We really need a new competitor to the duopoly!! Go embraer go!
That's what you get when Brazil and Argentina conduct joint ventures together!
hence the Brazil flag the Argentine flag and the Chec flag on the aircraft.
damn, such a pretty plane, inside and outside
I would say it's a very attractive aircraft. And I must say they have experience producing high quality aircraft of this size.
Fire fighting has been a relevant topic of ALL times.
I think I see what you’re getting at, and aerial fire fighting is especially important today. Not only due to changing weather patterns as a result of climate change (I’m sorry bud, but the entire world has just gone 3 summers in a row with record temperatures. It’s been over 100 degrees here nearly every day, whereas, when I was growing up, I remember getting excited when a 100+ degree day came around because it was such a rarity. Denying it was silly. Now it’s downright delusional. Come to terms with that).
On top of less consistent rains and longer, hotter droughts caused by climate change, aerial firefighting fleets around the world are aging out of service. Most firefighting aircraft were surplus from WWII and The Cold War. The long period of relative peace after the fall of the Soviet Union meant the world’s militaries stopped building so many aircraft. As aircraft became more & more complex, raw numbers produced had been generally declining every decade from the end of WWII. All this combined meant less and less surplus aircraft available for fire fighting. So, right as demand for aerial firefighting aircraft is reaching new heights, supply of aircraft suitable to perform that role has never been lower. That alone is enough to mean future demand for aerial firefighting aircraft will only grow from where it is today. No matter how you cut it, you’re just wrong. Firefighting aircraft are more relevant today than in the past.
Instead of acting smart while being stupid, you could try just being smart, like me. Now, I took the time to explain to you why you’re wrong, this time. Don’t expect others to be so generous with their time. Next time you’re about to say something you feel is smart, search for all the ways you might be wrong. You’re going to need to be humble enough to admit you may not have as good of a grasp on a subject as once thought, but as long as you do that you’ll slowly learn how to be less dumb. It’s a win for everybody.
....and even more so now.
@@williambrasky3891Imagine writing this.
EMBRAER ORGULHO BRASILEIRO...
As a Brazilian, I'm so proud of this company
15:10 actually, the brazilian air force is already using the KC390 to combat fires that have been happening since June here in Brazil :D
It’s very simple !!!
We are finishing building the ARMORED and ARMED version of the KC 390 GUNSHIP the best .
The plane’s c 130 retirement has been annouced.
@@claudiorocha2973 Surely that would be an AC390?
@@claudiorocha2973sure buddy, given the fact that Embraer has delivered 9 planes in 9 years we are all convinced that the gunship version is about to be certified.
Saw this at Singapore air show, very cool!
Honestly if i could get one and fly one, i would live in it
I could manage the c130...on the ground, living in it😎
Way to go Embraer!✈👍👍
A nice new aircraft, the large cockpit windows do indeed make it looking smaller than the actual size without a reference next to it. But the load capacity is surprisingly high for the size too.
The C-160 Transall is not much smaller but has a much lower capacity, range, speed and service ceiling. it was a plane of the 60s after all.
The cockpit looks very modern and clean. Good to hear that the Netherlands is replacing its aging C-130 fleet with these which will give better performance at lower exploitation costs.
Army transports make probably the most flying hours of all military planes with maybe the exception of the coast guard.
Although not designed by it like the KC-390, Embraer is building the Saab Grippen as well now.
Yes, they are!! When brazil bought the grippen, it was to be manufactured in Brazil after a pre series
Definitely. Embraer is pretty much the co-producer of SAAB J39E Gripen, arguably one of the top five fighter jets in existence, especially considering price/performance. I'm worried about the political trend in Brazil right now, tbh.
@@henrikg1388 Former government did everything they could to sell embraer to boeing for peanuts but fortunately boeing is going downhill and the whole thing didn't go through.
If you wonder why the aircraft has the Argentine, Czech and Portuguese flags besides the Brazilian one it's because Embraer offered joint collaboration on the manufacturing. In the case of Argentina FADEA Aircraft factory produces part of the ramp, the tail cone and the covers of the wheel doors.
The cargo ramp is made by Aero Vodochody.
@@mxrz yep. Part of it is in FADEA. The cargo ramp has several parts. I just check it back and they changed things..no longer part of the ramp, now the electronics racks, flap fairings.
Vc esqueceu de 5 parafusos na parte superior direita
Wonderful idea! It creates more jobs!
@@mig2720 kkkkkkkkkk
As a brazilian, it's too good to see Embraer got this level of excellence with a cargo plane.
All the word is stretching his arms out to grab a KC-399.
So proud I am.
Embraer's design and engineering team is top notch, every aircraft they make look so sleek!
Regarding the "civilianised" versions - selling them as freighters would likely tap into a large market as they could dramatically reduce handling costs/turnaround times for palletised transport
It would take 4 trips to equal the weight of a MD 11 but in North America and Europe infrastructure is good and paved runways are many. In Africa and South America they could be useful and the DC 3 is running out of time and replacement parts,, fuel too
@genebohannon8820 MD11s can't be rapidly loaded/unloaded using ground level equipment and I'm thinking of things like Convair CV580 size (7 ton payload), which are used by a lot of regional couriers but getting extremely long in the tooth
In one case I'm aware of, one of these was replaced with a A320F for capacity reasons, although the operator would have preferred an aircraft with faster turnaround which would have enabled 2 route circuits/day instead of one with bigger capacity but which could only make 1 circuit
@@genebohannon8820 Brazil has actually a really developed aviation industry, and is the country with the 2nd most airports.
Yes, I'm sure none of the guys who do that for a living and spend billions of dollars buying equipment have ever thought of that or considered the costs and risks involved. Good thing you are smarter then they are, you should send them an email, maybe they need to hear that.
Aviation is a very complex business and there are a ton of considerations when it comes to purchasing new equipment. It's extremely expensive, you have to get it right. Initial cost will be higher for a smaller volume, maintenance costs are usually higher on military aircraft. They have they specific range and payload requirements. The cost of the aircraft is negotiated with each contract, and larger companies can afford to take a loss to gain or keep clients, the maintenance and service package is a huge part of the contract. If they aren't competitive in that aspect, being slightly easier to load cargo isn't going to outweigh the other considerations. They also rarely have any need for rough field operation or short field, so all of that capacity is just extra weight and expense as far as commercial lines are concerned. They don't need a military jet, which is designed to do things commercial jets can't. Which costs money. There is a reason cargo lines haven't been using C-5s or C-130s. Only very specialized lines which fly into rugged areas need stuff like that. And you can get a very cheap 737 that can fly into gravel airfields and take any standard pallets. How is this better? Because it is slightly easier to load it? If a plane like this made any sense it would be for carrying _non_ standard cargo thst can't fit into a normal cargo jet, or flying into really remote fields. None of that has a very big demand. Most lines are just trucking pallets between big airports, and they put a lot of thought into reducing costs as much as they can. If they are going to buy this, they would have already.
@@justforever96 Talking down to me says a hell of a lot more about you than it does about me. I suggest you pull your head in as your foreskin is showing
In the wild fires of 2024 the kc390 has dropped over 25000 gallons or 1 million liters of water with the fire fighting kit
The airplane is amazing and had impressive availability.
So proud of Brazilian engineering
The Embraer C-390 will give all its competitors a run for their money. Very impressive aircraft.
This is an excellent video describing an excellent airplane. I am really impressed by your clear, concise, and highly informative documentary of what may become a very popular transport aircraft. Well done!
i like the c390 it can be used in sweden and i
think it`s perfect for landing on the swedish road network.
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Imagine the C-390 on the highway 😬
@@MarcosSanchess we has had the
road network landidng since the cold war days.
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Sweden signs a MOU a few days ago. Not sure how many they will buy, but they are getting closer.
Good call. Would be a good buy for Sweden.
This aircraft (or at least the civil version) would find a lot of use during the summer months serving locations in Canada and Alaska which are otherwise only accessible during the winter months via trucks running on roads made of packed snow and/or frozen over lakes (made famous by the Discovery channel show "Ice Road Truckers").
Even during the winter months they would be useful in this niche, because they would allow things like evacuating injured people to areas with better medical facilities, or you could turn one into a flying hospital/operating room and do the whole "if the patient can't go to the hospital, bring the hospital to the patient" tactic.
I can see a lot use in that second idea even in the US, particularly after things like tornadoes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters wreak havoc on the existing facilities even if the people that would usually staff those facilities are unharmed (a surgeon needs a hospital in order to operate, after all, and the natural disasters are very able to just wipe even a hospital off the map, especially with global warming only pumping more energy into hurricanes, tornadoes, wildfires, floods, and landslides, which is basically any natural disaster that's not an earthquake or volcanic eruption, so it's the majority of all of them).
Not to mention that these would probably find a decently sized niche in the USA serving lower volume airports with air freight, for instance my city has an airport that can handle 737's and that sort of plane but there's not enough passenger traffic so it's instead served (not very frequently) by smaller jets instead. This C-390 (or at least the civil version) would probably be the perfect size for the air freight needs of my city, and is already well served with a sufficiently large road to handle heavy truck traffic from that airport to the city proper, so it would make sense for UPS or another cargo carrier to set up a facility at that airport.
Have you worked up in Arctic Alaska? You seem to be very knowledgeable on this subject. I’m just wondering because I worked in the Alaska oil fields and along the pipeline for 33 years and I don’t see a practical use for these. There are already established runways and helicopters available all across the North Slope. There are also established air freight services. I also spent a couple years traveling around Alaska for my job. Another thing is this is to expensive. Air freight planes are older 737s and DC-9s for flying freight to bush hubs. They could never make a profit paying for a new plane.
Well... the C-390 has already been qualified for freezing climates (certification took place in Antarctica), but I don't think they will want to invest in that, continuing to use the old planes.
@@sonnymagalhaes9203 Older planes are a thing here. There is even a DC-6 that flys over our house sometimes carrying freight to a gold mine. Most of the flights are less than 500 miles. Most villages have runways at least 5,000 feet long. I worked for a company that flew techs to these villages in a Cessna 560 with a gravel kit.
@@sonnymagalhaes9203 I am always amazed at the performance of aircraft in real cold temperatures. I used to commute to work in mostly 737s and taking off at -45 the plane jumps right off the ground in the dense air.
@@Chris_at_Home Yes it is true, this is a feeling that i still don't know. What remains now is to hope that the lobby doesn't speak louder than necessity, but... to be honest, i don't have much faith that this will happen.
What a fantastic presentation. It comes across as a mystery novel, each new page(old school term) brings in new information. I am half way through the clip and I still don't know how it will conclude.
Great post on a tough looking and performing aircraft. It can be supplied in many configurations as well. WINNER HERE !
Embraer C-390 simply stunning plane
It is a beautiful plane with it's high shoulders and jets!
It's the best looking cargo transport, imo.
I cant say anything.
Im from Brazil.
but....
Being honest
I love C-130... but 3 times 130 is C-390
Love MATH!
Embraer was created as a military company, despite acting in the civilian market, they were conceived as a state company to produce planes to FAB (Brazilian air force)
Graças a Deus foi privatizada, se não estaria atolada em corrupção igual a Petrobras. kkkkkkkkk
Some people believe that Embraer wanted to insinuate that its C-390 aircraft is three times better than the C-130, but this is not true. Embraer has a code for its projects with 3 digits, the 1st is '1' for commercial models (examples 190 or 195) and '3' for military models (examples 314 Super Tucano and 390 Millennium), the '90' for C-390 is probably due to the fact that initially the idea was to use the wing of the EMB-190 (to reduce costs and time for launch), which was soon discarded for a wing of a completely new design, optimized for a military multi-mission aircraft.
No they think it's 22.9x better than the C-17. Arrogant bastards!
@@ninjalectualx You're wrong. Embraer don't think this way. They know what they deliver.
Google "a joke" 🤦♀️
@@ninjalectualx 😂
Looks like a baby C-17
Or the IL76 or Y20.
I literally thought it too
Not fat, just big boned.
C-17 has four engines
She's just missing the wingtip extensions. She'd make a great special operations transport and "fast gunship". The armament for the gunship could include two M134 mini guns and one M61 20mm cannon along with night vision and targeting avionics.
Used to make parts for Embraer civil jets. This new transport looks SWEET!
Without a doubt, the C-390 Millennium is an incredible aircraft and the best in its category. Congratulations on the video.
Such a gorgeous aircraft.
Great video as always. Thanks! I actually think it looks great. Chunky-functional. It looks so purposeful..... this thing does what it says on the tin.
A most impressive aircraft. The flight characteristics are amazing.
That cockpit looks amazing, I bet this thing is fun to fly.
Not so fun cause it has a flight-by-wire navigation .... Less work for the crew.
I like the look of this. Well thought out and packaged
The Hercules is a great aircraft……wow. The Hercules was invented/innovated in 1955 or was that the B-52? The C-130 is such a legend it would be hard to replace it as it is a flying legend!
I think our Airforce has ordered new C-130’s, Love to Brazil from the smallest most isolated most beautiful country in the World, New Zealand!
Best regards from Brazil to New Zealand! 👍🏻
Impressive aircraft.
When mommy and daddy love each, when daddy C 5 and mommy C 17 love each other, they have this...
saiu um bebê baixinho e musculoso
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@@ROGER79514 *voz grossa e profunda*
"Genitores, eu preciso de nutrição!"
Over the years I've developed a fondness for Embraer. I never really disliked them, at most I was indifferent. Over the years, seeing more and more competent work from them... well it adds up (and I mean competent in the best way possible... if I was going for "well, it works" I would use "adequate").
These days when I hear their name my reaction is generally something positive along the lines of "oh hey, what are they up to now".
edit: Yeah, it does look a little small without additional context, but I wouldn't call it unsightly. Its kind of cute tbh.
edit 2: For what its worth; I'm from the US. In terms of weapons, like infantry rifles, cruisers or fighters, ideally we should be making those ourselves. But when it comes to other things, such as vehicles used for logistics, there is much to be gained by taking a good serious look at what other countries are offering. Another example to go along with this jet/company would be the South Korean shipbuilding industry. I don't want them building American destroyers, but their ability to build the more mundane ships that are essential is perhaps the best in the world.
An interesting, and capable military transport aircraft.
thanks Sky! always look forward to your new releases bigly
That's a good looking bird!
I really appreciate the design of this aircraft.
Do Brasil para o mundo. 🇧🇷❤️🗺️
See you in a few years in The Netherlands!!
Both Lockheed and Airbus, to my knowledge, have nothing in this segment and Boeing…….well, let’s not go there.
Embraer has a hit on its hands.
As an American I can confidently say that Lockheed would spend millions to develop their own light jet transport rather than let the C-390 into the United States. They might try to even get laws or tariffs on foreign aircraft instated.
Lockheed Martin left the vanguard of innovation a long time ago, they no longer act, now they only react
They’ve lost every foreign sale they’ve competed for with the C-130J against the C-390 over the last year. The C-130 is done and Lockheed has nothing new in the pipeline.
Lockheed have money to do it, but the problem is bureaucracy and politic desire to do it, and of course, boing really wanna do it ?
@@pedroguilhermeleitao2299 is ANYONE mad to trust Boeing today?
And the taxpayers end up paying the price for supporting obsolete bloated parasite defense companies
Excellent presentation! It is a strikingly attractive concept aeroplane !
beautiful this aircrarft...
Great run down! Those Kawasakis are engineered like an American project. Very capable and impressive but overly expensive. The Embraer attitude is better for most users IMO. Plus i just want one.
Japan is extremely closed and they hide all information, so the outside world thinks they only make good stuff. But in reality, the C-2 has many problems, such as fuselage cracks.
Cheers from Canberra Sky, great story.
i like your videos. You do a great job. Your voice talent is also totally awesome. Please never AI it up. Great work fam.
Commenting so that “the algorithm” recommends more good stuff like yours.
I'm convinced; if I need a Military cargo aircraft or a private jet - I think C390 Embraer would be a great pick it has a fantastic ferry range. Who needs a bespoke interior when you can just use stock couches and ratchet straps!
EMBRAER is awesome!
Genius bit of work....
The US Army should buy 150 of these and the navy and Marine corps 300 the airforce 400
Oh the horror! Think of Lockmart shareholders!.
unfortunely, it would take forever to make 150 of these
Nice numbers you got there. What money? Over how long? N what variations?
Lockheed & Boeing would never allow it. Look at what happened when Merlin won the presidential chopper contract & Airbus the Tanker one. Both over turned despite being build in the USA by US workers.
As a Brazilian, all I have to say is: amen to that. Please, buy it in droves! :D
Congratulations! Great aircraft!
Great video, as usual. Two notes, first, the C-17 definitely still trains and uses thrust reversers in tactical descents. Second, "suite" is pronounced like "sweet". Insignificant to the quality of the video, which I enjoyed very much. Thank you!
Very nice presentation. Govt. of India is planning to swap its LCA Tejas with Brazil for C-390s in a barter trade, although in early stages.
Can you help me with the background music of the last section (orders and deliveries) please?
i think it actually looks like a really beautiful plane, it looks kinda mean, rugged, looks ready for a fight!
Nice-looking aircraft. Glad to see a new video from you, they are always excellent and fascinating, best wishes for many more!
Thanks for a very through breakdown
Congratulations Brazil.
It's not a Boeing.....its not falling( both out of the sky and stock markets)
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Starliner não cai. só esta presa na iss.
What a beauty, id like to live in one.
I like the aircraft it's a solid performing airframe.
Unlike Airbus this plane as Active Sidesticks giving excellent tactile feedback. This means in Airbus if you shake the left sidestick the right one stays still. But in C-390 the other stick will also move. Even Airbus latest machine A350 does not have this.
This aircraft is far smaller than the A400
Mamma mia! Que Bello ✈️.
Not really a surprise, North Americans tend to think of all of South America as pretty much the same, the typical "mud huts and tin horn dictators" cliche. But Brazil is actually a quite modern and economical successful nation, only small compared to the few on the very top of the list. They are more than capable of building quality aircraft and automobiles, have been for a long time.
Big punch fot C-390 program development Few days ago The American L3Harris has withdrawn from a partnership with the Brazilian Embraer to introduce the C-390 Millennium transport aircraft to the US market. The partnership, announced in 2022, initially assumed that L3Harris would equip the aircraft with American mission systems, including a refueling probe, creating the KC-390. According to Breaking Defense sources at Embraer Defense and Security, the American company decided not to continue the cooperation due to other priorities .There are many indications that L3Harris was forced to abandon its partnership with Embraer in order not to create intra-American competition. The C-390 is trying to compete with the C-130 Hercules, which has been used by the US Air Force for decades. Moreover, as a potential flying tanker, the KC-390 might not meet the USAF's requirements under the Next Generation Air Refueling System (NGAS) program. Closed dors for C-390 and kC-390 in USA
very well made video. Thanks for your work.
The wing box is beautiful! The whole plane is gorgeous!!
At some point, even the Herc will have to be replaced, and I don't see any American designs to fill the looming void. This would be a golden opportunity for inter-American co-operation.
They are considering a stealth cargo... I can't even wonder how expensive it may be, and ofcourse, won't be available to everyone to purchase.
@@filipep.7742 There is a (small) niche for stealth, but there is a much more pressing need for a general trash hauler. The ones we have get run hard.
"...renowned civilian aircraft manufacturer"? Embraer's roots are deeply groundet in military aviation from the earliest beginning in the 50ies.
A questão é que Embraer produziu seu primeiro avião para uso militar/civil, então, o vídeo está parcialmente correto.
This is a beautiful aircraft, maybe a bit ugly but I love the look of it looks like it has so much purpose I would love to be on one of these, I love the thrust reverse concept
A very well done overview of what definitely appears to be an outstanding effort from Embraer. Thanks!