The Brutal Reality of Flying the F-4 Phantom
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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This is the story of F-4 Phantom pilot Carl Parlatore, and how he was shot down over hostile territory on September 3rd of 1968. After ejecting, he had more than one problem on the ground, as a Huey helicopter tried to rescue him during his first tour of the Vietnam war. Hope you enjoy! Please like, comment, and subscribe. #WW2 #WWIIHistory #WarThunder
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Id like to tell you a story about my grandfather.. WW2 bomber pilot
How do I get in touch with you?
@@vegasclubb you can email me at tj3business@gmail.com although it's hard for me to reply to everyone!
That Warthunder sponsorship ad was honestly pretty cool.
Good graphics! But you made the Huey roll onto its LEFT side wben it got hit... and crushed Carl and his rescuer!
17-18 year old Corpsmen shielding a wounded pilot from shrapnel with their bodies?
The number of brave men in this story is incredible
Agreed!!
Dedication!
Incredible....
That was a 100% bust up moment.
You could see it is his eyes. Then hear him come apart.
No crying for safe spaces with these warriors.
@@MrAndyBearJr Nope. Men can cry from the inspiration seeing greatness even in these kids in his view, giving themselves to save his life.
The best thing a man can ever see to steel his heart. Those kids assured that he would be back, and resolve to be back.
Its always the little things.
Like Larry Liss flying 3 times into a hole in the jungle that he cut with his unarmed and unarmored Huey, with a loaded Car15 next to him. He got out with it once he remembers, but does not remember anything particular about it, or how it was empty after the event.
"If you're lucky, you might find yourself dogfighting Carl himself." I can't beat the 13 year olds, the last thing I want to do is face someone of Carl's qualifications. 😂
Lol!
Yes if you watch the training flight film.
F4 Phantom 2
If thrown forward into the seat belts, you’re in an unrecoverable spin.
You must eject (Only Option)
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
When the snail gets to you it stays with you forever
FREE THE BASEMENT GUY GAIJIN 💀
I am a teen and ofc am not stating my actual age I play war thunder and I play with the phantom 2 and in my opinion it is a good aircraft but if you want to be agile and you are carrying a gun pod and missiles, bombs drop your bombs first if you get into a dog fight the F4 is a heavy aircraft
Carl has some extreme experience and knows exactly what to do. But it may surprise you how fast reflexes 13 year olds can have and how smart they can be. Never underestimate "child soldiers". You may not get off much easier with them than with Carl. So I am not surprised you found yourself in trouble with them too. I perhaps would also.
Hey guys! This one was a doozy to make. Certainly plenty of challenges recreating these scenes, but we did our best! Historical notes - Everything should be pretty accurate here - only slight adjustment is Carl mentions Ian Dawson dragging an AK across his face later in the video, but he meant to say an M-16! Hope you guys enjoy :)
Awesome job team! Godspeed 🇺🇸
I had two good friends that flew choppers in Nam, (both returned), I roomed with one in college, and he carried an AK, said many others did too. Brave people, I was stateside my whole career. Can't say enough thanks to those guys.
I love your video and keep it up
Make actual content please :)
Incredible job 👍👍👌👌
My grandfather has 176 combat missions in the RF-4C in Vietnam. I will show him this in a few days and see if he has anything to add.
I am sure he has great stories to tell. Your grandfather is a brave man. I flew the RF-4C just as the Vietnam war was winding down and ended up in Germany as my first assignment..
Cool grandpa. 😎👍
CARL thanks for the video and thanks for your service. I was lucky enough to be stationed AT PAX RIVER NAVEL AIR CENTER MARYLAND. It was in 1960-63 and was a plane captain on the Chance vought F8U. At that time the flight crew had to pull flight time each month. We were testing a F-4 so i climbed into the back seat as many time as i could. A Test pilot named JJ OLSEN told me to hold my stomach muscles tight when doing maneuvers so i wouldn't get sick. Oh my god, i have never experienced anything ever close to having pulled positive & Negative G's, mach 2 and in-flight refueling. WHAT A RUSH!! Thanks for bringing it all back to me at 81 years young!!
I could listen to Carl's stories all day. Man, I miss listening to stories like that.
Glad the footage works out well on this video, I was concerned that I didn't get enough or didn't do it properly.
Hello sparky
Hello@@WaltherFrosch6.
assuming you did the in game footage---very very cool visual aid and absolutely does the story justice from an audience perspective. First time I've seen it done that way too which is an extra feather in your cap
You really did work wonders with this one man. I appreciate you helping bring it to life. Genuinely just reminded me of that old dogfighters show on history which to me at least is definitely a compliment.
Worked on these for 12 years, hated replacing the parachute’s or going thru two systems to get to the one your working on!! Retired crew chief
Hats off to you! my father used to tell me they were 'a pig to work on', having to take everything apart to get to something relatively minor
Almost all military aircraft are that way. At least from that era. Spent 15yrs on F-4C,D,E variants. F-15s have some difficult areas to access also. 2yrs on them. F-16s are reasonably good. 3yrs on them.
When they built those planes they figured out that the Meck "could" figure out how to fix them. I am sure there was a tool for that, but I ground a wrench thin enough to get into the space I needed to fix the plane (A-4). I took that wrench home with me and still have it. Maybe it wasn't as bad as I remember. @@patrickgriffitt6551
crew chiefs. True hero's.
Replacing bad battery right side by rudder/brake pedal had to stand on your head to pull it out that's what I hated. Crew chief
What an insane experience. Nothing but respect for guys like Carl.
About a month after this event, I lost my dad in Nam over the DMV to SAMs. Operation Rolling Thunder. Watching this brought back a lot of memories, and helped me realize what he actually went through. We didn't know if he was alive or dead. Declared KIA after 7 years. If he survived, he may have ended up in a Russian POW camp, I learned many years later. His RIO did return, thank GOD!. My dad was Col. George Edward Tyler, 38 years of age, from Detroit, MI.
I am really sorry to read this and your dad never came back. My dad was in the 433rd and he came back, I was lucky.
Thanks for your kind words@@braincraven . I became a private pilot later in life and it would have been fun to go flying with him. I also would like to have been able to ask him about UAP's that he may have investigated for the Air Force in the southwest in the late 60's and early 70's, but I'm not sure how much he would have been able to tell me.
My dad was in WW2...went through Normandy....he made it back
@@nickhalden9220 my great grandpa Warren was on Normandy, he died just before I was born. My grandpa jack, his son would have been 3 years of age during d day. Jack served in the Korean War guarding a checkpoint. Warren made it back with stories of France and having to hide in a house while Germans searched. He said they were opening the higgens boats too early. Also mentioned he had to keep moving. For a while I pondered how he could have survived, but this was the main invasion force into Europe and many many many waves of men entered through Normandy. I’m pretty sure 0 men of the first wave survived.
Bless your dad and his family Ed. His sacrifice is not forgotten or unappreciated and always honored. ❤
I have 492 hours in F-4D and F-4E…one 2 1/2 yr tour at Clark AB Philippines before transitioning to F-111F. The Rhino was a jack of all trades- master of none. We were “ok” at everything from deep interdiction, CAS, precision guided munitions, nuclear delivery and air-to-air. It was a lot to absorb as a new lieutenant, but fun as hell flying with Americas best warriors. First assignment in the Philippines was icing on the cake!
Btw, the story Carl tells of the army grunt hugging a jet after reading the pilots name on the F-4 from the ground is total BS. Not possible. Names are hard to read standing next to the jet. Impossible to read at 420kts from grunt level
Heroic story to say the least. I have three direct relatives who served during the infamous conflict: my dad, who was USAF Orthopedic Surgery, my uncle (dad's brother,) who was US Army 1st Air Cavalry, and my grandfather (my mom's father) who was USAF Red Horse.
Pretty cool . The 1st Cav was in every Corp area of RVN , and always in the shit . At Tay Ninh the 1st Cav had a wood banner over the road coming into their A.O. Said ... " Ya ain't Cav , Ya ain't shit " :D I know a guy who was Red Horse in Da Nang 69-70 who mainly ran the concrete plant or drilled water wells . I tried Med School but failed , but my son went on to become a Trauma guy here in Michigan . Tell your family some old 25th ID medic said Welcome Home .
@@indycharlie Thanks for the extra insight. My fam members that went over really didn't talk about their time there, at least not to me. Most of what I know of their experiences comes second hand (from other family members as well as a few news articles, particularly on my uncle who received two Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star, and a few other honors for his service.)
On behalf of my fam, welcome home to you as well, and congratulations to your son for his accomplishments.
These videos with the actual vets are amazing you are doing great work TJ3 History. Reminds me of Band of Brothers where the vets spoke before each episode. Sadly not many left, that's why we didn't see any in Masters of the Air miniseries.
Great story Carl I know many Soviets Vietnamese and Middle East pilots found respectful to the F-4 Phantoms during the dogfight duel over both Vietnam and Middle East.
Now that’s a story from Vietnam that I didn’t know of.
Retired Army Ranger and Infantryman here. Joined at 17 in 1984 with 27 years time in service. Father died when I was very young. He was a Vietnam era vet. I had dozens of fathers. They were all Vietnam Vets. Taught me how to be a man, a warrior and a patriot. They were hard men. Often times brutal with us. But I loved them then and I love them now. Thank you!!!
Carl, thank you for telling your story with its many moments of high emotion.
I was 10 in 1970 Boston when my uncle Jack piloted the F4 phantom in Vietnam, I was in awe, he'd come home on leave on Christmas or other holiday rarely, but it was always great to see him before he'd have to go back. God bless America.🇺🇸
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What a great story!!! Carl is a natural storyteller! He is so forthright and earnest, that you can tell every word is factual , as it happened, with no embellishment! An experience like that one, doesn’t need any embellishment to be incredibly riveting!
Carl, thank you, for your service! It’s good people like you, who make our country the greatest nation on earth!
Jason - thank you for your kind words - I was truly blessed to be able to fly the best fighters in the world at that time - F-4s and then F-16s - for 26 years.
Thank you Carl for your sacrifice! You and your brother veterans are not forgotten! I salute you all!🇺🇸
The grunt hugging the phantom is just great. Very touching. I wish i could hug a phantom with love like that. Greatful to not have under that circumstance though. Great vid.
Gotta say, it’s pretty damn cool to hear a real Phantom Phlyer is playing War Thunder.
My dad has this old brochure from the 1960s that was for the Thunderbirds when they performed at the opening for the Central Wisconsin Airport in his hometown. If I remember correctly, it was from the first year the Thunderbirds had the Phantoms, and the brochure was signed by all the pilots. The F-4 had great carrying capacity, but as far as flying it, I have nothing but respect for the pilots who did so. Just from old documentaries and interviews I've seen, the F-4 wasn't an easy aircraft to handle, especially for the guy in the rear of the diamond formation.
First off . Welcome Home brother , and thanks for that " fast mover " support . Like thousands of others , I came into country at CRB . Which on that 1st night , we got incoming ( AF side ) and I saw my 1st Puff work out . I left CRB headed to lll Corp and ended up via Long Binh to Tay Ninh . I was NOT with the 45th , but was in a smaller Med . Unit . I know that at some point the AGE to serve in RVN was changed to 18 . I was NOT in country in 68 ( 70-71 ). But I can tell you that all of us looked like H.S. kids :D After I left TN I ended up as a leg , recon and finally a Blue . We worked all over lll Corp and the S end of ll . Though I don't recall that SF camp . We did work out of many SF camps , some had been turned over to the SV Rangers , but still had American advisors . Glad you made it home , Carl ... doc 68-71 Army ( medic ) .
Doc - All I can say is the docs who took care of me (corpsmen that is) were angles sent from God - don't know if anyone ever told you thank you for what you did - but that ends NOW! THANK YOU AND YOUR FELLOW DOCS FOR KEEPING ME AND GUYS LIKE ME SAFE!
TY . Stay strong brother . There are less of us by the day . @@carlparlatore294
I remember as a little kid being able to touch them and climbed into one at an airshow and my dad said it looked so big and heavy that he couldn't believe it would fly well. Then we saw four of them flying in the show and he was really impressed by that.
Very touching story....
I worked on F4's for six years. On two separate occasions I met two Grunts who wistfully commented on they how loved to see those birds delivering their ordinance at tree-top level.
What a great storyteller. Like I was there right next to him. Also, as a young E-2 navy ATC in -72 the Phantom was in my mind the coolest aircraft I had ever seen.
Carl, bless you sir! You’re a great story teller!
My father was a camera avionics specialist on RF-4C’s and spent some time at Udorn during his 20 year career in the USAF. He was my hero.
My grandfather did the same thing Carl did in the same plane during the same time. Although he was in the backseat, my grandfather was a rated F-4 pilot. He unfortunately died with his front seater during a night bombing of trucks mission in Laos on March 21st, 1968 :(
My great great uncle was a Phantom pilot and one of the first American pilots to fly the harrier vtol jet . 2 years ago he died and got buried in Arlington national cemetery
If I never see another War thunder advertisement, it'll be too early. I'm so over it.
The game is insanely realistic and its free thats why its so popular. I didnt no how good it was till downloading it last week. It has so much shit its overwhelming i dont know where to start lol
It deserves to be pushed more then call of duty and shit. Personally im sick of raid shadow legends ads lmao
Cool stuff Carl, as my father was also at Cameron Bay working right next to, or part of the 391st.
In 1968 as you were. He interpreted the miles of film you took. Great video to come across!! Thank you sir for your Service, and making it
home as my dad did as well. I was about 5 at the time, and he and I built numerous models
of the F-4s, and the killer camo jobs they gave the planes, in the years that followed. An honor, thank you again for the memories.
Another amazing video. You’re recreating battle scenes in a way that puts big productions to shame.
Thank you :)
Great video! My late Father-In-Law served with the 541st Medical Detachment of the 187th Assault Helicopter Company at Tay Ninh. I believe he was there later though.
Carl's story totally fukked me up!! I'm a pretty hardcore guy but when he mentioned about those brave young men protecting him with their body's i burst out crying like a baby!! God bless them!!! War brings out the best in brothers in arm's! I will never forget this!! Thank you so much for sharing this sir!! MUCH RESPECT!!
Well described, and glad you made it back home after ever MORE VN tours. From another VN vet.
Love to see Carl's reaction to the upcoming F-4 Phantom DCS module!
Exactly what I was thinking.
Wow, what a tale of inspiration & raw heroism 💪🏽
Thank You Carl. You’re a good man. Glad you made it home.
Carl is going to be so happy when the new DCS F4E module gets released. So happy for him! Great doc btw!!
Carl - welcome home, glad you made it back, and thank you for helping protect our guys
Only one word in my head about this airman the hospital people "RESPECT"
You've made tremendous progress as a content creator. The level of professionalism that you've achieved is impressive and it's been exciting to watch the evolution of your videos over the past few years. Keep it up.
Very nice video, the last part in the X-ray room gave me goosebumps. I hope there will be more videos with Carl.
We lived in Scheveport La . in the late 60s , The community was near the airbase and these jets were flying off the runway none stop during the Vietnam war . We could feel these come in with less noise but on take off, they were pushing the throttle down .
Thanks for the story sir and thanks for your service
Thanks so much for sharing Carl's story. It's a shame vietnam has so often been painted as a dirty war to be forgotten about. Carl's story is Incredible. I'm in awe. If only so many more of the current generation could see and hear his story and that of other vets. Such courage, selflessness, beyond words really.
I was 8 years old at the time. Thank you sir for your sacrifice and service to our country!
I hope you don't mind me posting an upperclassman from my high school, Allan Dyer a great guy who went into Army Aviation piloting the H1, he died in combat on a mission where ground fire caught him through the windscreen, where he died. I still remember his face from time to time.
I understand what you are saying about the mind shutting down - Strange , but it happens .
Later , what happened is “ gone “ . Some type of mental block ? Weird - huh ?
My Father was on the program that used the F4s as the QF4s as unmanned target drones. I have a great picture of one of these in a left hand bank over White Sands. Great video!!! What a story!!
Det 1, 82ATRS, Holloman AFB
WELCOME HOME CARL.
I was a grunt watching F4s fly over in I Corp.
SGT DOUG, RECON, 101ST, RVN 68-69 LZ SALLY
Fantastic interview, riveting!
I can't say I "enjoyed" your story but seeing you there telling it gave me pleasure.
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26:45 this part almost made me cry
Wow incredible interview. So many moments that made my eyes get big and watered.
What a cool story of strength, bravery and blessing for life. Thanks for sharing this story. 👍
I wonder where Carl did his survival training... my father was an instructor at Warner Springs CA. survival, escape and evasion USN. 1963-1966
Did my sea survival at Homestead AFB in FL; survival training at Fairchild AFB WA; and Jungle survival at Clark AB PI. Hope that helps.
@carlparlatore294 Of course! Warner Springs was Navy, Marine, and Coast Guard training... Army and Airforce would be their own schools...
Congratulations Karl. Wonderful story. Thank you for serving!
you can see Carl is a real F-4 Pilot just by looking at his mustache...lol, much love and TX for your service Sir.
Another COUPLE of tour's. Legend!
Unreal - God Bless Mr. Carl :)
the phantom still looks to me like the ultimate fighter aircraft. I think they produced them in my home town as a youth ... Saint Louis, Mo..
Any idea what happened to his pilot?
He survived too, when Parlatore woke up in the MASH unit, his pilot was there at his bedside. He says that just before they carry him to XRay.
Was Carl a pilot or a RIO. The narrator is calling him a pilot, but typically the back seat crew position is a RIO or WSO (Radio Intercept Officer- RIO in the US Navy, or WSO - Weapon System Officer in the US Air Force) and is not a pilot. Thank you for your brave service, Carl !!!
As a long aside - in the USAF the back seaters initially were pilots straight out of Pilot Training ... it was thought that the Phantom was too much for a new pilot to handle. As a result, many pilots in the back were not getting much experience flying the plane, but became really good Weapons Systems Operators while awaiting their turn to upgrade to the front. The normal GIB route was to get a tour in SEA in the pit, come back to the US to upgrade to Aircraft Commander, and then return to SEA in the front.
"Unfortunately" for many GIB pilots awaiting their chance to upgrade, the USAF concluded that new pilots could in fact handle the airplane, and started assigning pilots to the front seat straight out of pilot training. At the same time, back seaters started coming to the Phantom from Navigator Training. All that resulted in some "mentally challenging " situations ... as when a new Lieutenant AC came into a unit and was crewed with an anguished Captain pilot who had hundreds of hours in the back seat. To further distress pilot GIBs, the USAF started sending pilots from other aircraft to the Phantom front seat based on hours of flying experience. That way a pilot who graduated Pilot Training in a class ranking below others (who chose fighters) got to the front seat ahead of pilot GIBs by "virtue" of having flown long hours in cargo or bomber aircraft. The sad part of that travesty was that some very talented pilot GIBs languished in frustration to the point that they left the Air Force.
Gene K
Not my words . Found it in a DCS forum because I was confused about the back seater status ...
I got a father in the navy and a brother in the army. They never run out of nice stories to tell. They get to live a lot of experiences that you don’t get to live as a civilian what is more like a robot life. 😮
One of my favorite stories so far! Nitty gritty realistic!
"This guy... he had no brains and a real set of nads."
My god man, I almost died laughing at that.
Look now, I was grooving with this story up to the point where Carl described the teenage corpsmen covering him with their bodies. You can't make that shit up! Man, that really hit me.
Carl is amazing. Could listen to him all day, thanks for letting him tell his story!
Why did the heli pilot put a gun in Carl’s face? Was it just from confusion having just been blown up?
The f4 phantom was a great aircraft that spent nearly the entire vietnam war not being allowed to fight in the way it was designed to fight. It's like if we had the f-35 turn on the radar visibility mode in combat because "it could get mistaken for an enemy". The whole goddamn point of the aircraft is to do a thing, and then it doesn't get to do it. And now we have idiots who think the lesson is "gun good, missile bad!"
SO THOSE ARE YOUR NEW ANIMATIONS 😮 WOW
TJ3 thanks very much for bringing this video to us, i hope to see more coverage of the vietnam war in the further.
Wow! What an amazing story!
I watched this story because my birthday is September 3, 1968. God bless Carl and all those who sacrificed their lives, health, and safety in the service of our country.
Total and complete...AWESOMENESS !!!
The F-4 was evidence that if you gave a brick enough thrust, it would fly.
Love the F4 Phantom stuff!
Thank God for brave warriors. Thanks to all of them for their service.
The weapons load out on these F-4’s in this video drives me nuts. F-4’s usually always had drops tanks. If you went only with a load of bombs you’d quickly be running low on fuel.
you should introduce carl to DCS! they're adding the F4 phantom soon so that should send him back in time a bit, especially since he was in the backseat
Thank you for your service!
I wish you could still hear this story from its source, but that’s not possible any more. My second dad served in Vietnam in the Marines as a gunner with a mortar team. They were in a big mess and needed to be evacuated. The helicopter that pulled them out only had one pilot this day and as they were climbing out the pilot got shot through the lower window and into his chest. The helicopter started to slowly spin around. John had been learning to fly by sticking his head through the tiny bulkhead door and talking with the pilots as they flew him and his crew on various missions. He was again poking his head through the little door when the pilot got shot. He immediately jumped into the second seat and pulled the harnesses from the pilot, told one of his team to grab the pilot and treat his wound. John flew the helicopter back to base, but he didn’t know how to land properly. He ended up smacking the tail on the ground, and severely damaging the bird, but he kept it upright. The medics rushed out to help, the other powers that be were surprised to see an E3 jump out of the co-pilots seat after shutting down the engines. He was immediately taken into custody and questioned as to why he was flying. The brass didn’t care that he saved everyone and that the helicopter would have been lost either way. John had a way with words, and a way that rubbed most people the wrong way. This ended him going to Mast (non judicial court for those not familiar with the military punishment system) and when in front of the admiral he was asked this. “How was it that you, an E3 with no flight training was found to be flying this helicopter?” He simply stated the pilot was shot and with no co pilot he jumped in so he could get him and his men home safe. 7 men are alive including the pilot that was sent to save us because of me, and I will line up a thousand more helicopters on that flight line if I have to so that my team comes home safe. The Admiral replied that we needed more men like him serving and to get back out there and keep up the good work. All charges were dismissed, and thankfully John never had to crash land another helicopter. After the war he saved up his money and in 1983 bought a Rotorway Scorpion 2. He actually bought the very last Scorpion 2 that Rotorway produced.
The F-4. The plane that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that with enough thrust, even a brick will fly.
My favorite fighter of all time. Despite its downfalls, it just looks so bad ass.
He should try the f4 phantom as soon as heatblur releases their full fidelity model on dcs.
This is the best POV from a USAF RIO position
This should have been on dog fights history channel version but TJ3 made it first
Mad respect for all Vietnam vets out there
I love to fly as well from ace combat franchise
The OG F4 phantom still the best CAS & Ariel dog fighter
We need more Vietnam stories like this one
And Korean war stories
Etc TJ3
🕊️ Of peace
*I still a bit confused - What happened to the Four ( ? ) crew on the Huey? What happened to his Front seater - Did he survive?*
I surely met him as we were on Cam Ranh at same time, and I worked alert pad.
Carl is an awesome guy and God Bless him and you TJ3......Thanks for this excellent F-4 2 video....
Old F-4 2 Shoe🇺🇸
Wow, Thank God We had Carl and many more like him. And Thank God for the helo fellers for their support.
Just listening to his story....my heart gripped by every moment! God bless all that served in the Vietnam War!
Loved this aircraft growing up.
The Fact is during Vietnam the phantoms had to Dogfight with Guns that would become missiles that would fail 90% of the time. To make matters worse Due to the BVR only doctrine of that time the pilots was not trained to Dogfight. However Dan Pedersen the founder of Top Gun and other Top Gun phantom pilots took the ratio from a 2:1 to 24:1 with the phantoms by the end of Vietnam !
Great interview, great story, great visuals with the game. 10/10 without a doubt.
Thank you for your service Mr Carl Parlatore!
I think Carl Parlatore said he was from Nassau County NY. I wonder if he ever crossed paths with another guy from there named Mike Machat. Machat learned to fly at Zahn's Airport in Farmingdale and was (I think) in the USAF. He has a great RUclips channel called "Celebrating Aviation with Mike Machat."
Ned learned to fly at Zahns - that was the airport my mom had to drive me to because I couldn't get a drivers license until I was 18 - got my pilot license at 17!
Good morning,
Did you by any chance know an F4 Phantom pilot Sam Samora in Vietnam? He was shot down twice by SAM missiles over the Gulf of Tonkin and survived.