Olimar and Moss do technically count as the third and fourth story mode playable characters, so they do sorta continue that trend. But yea… wish you or player 2 could use them elsewhere. Or any of the other Rescue Team members just doing next to nothing all day
It's funny how with buffs the captain is one of the fastest item carriers, but with no other upgrades they're slower than a purple, as well as somehow not being able to carry at least 10 since they can carry purples.
Ive started an "extinction" run which ive seen other people do before for the previous games. killing every pikmin before the end of every day and starting only with the single pikmin of every type
if youd like another challenge like this one maybe you can try and beat the game with the least % possible? it might be a little too grindy tho (as the main way of getting sparklium would prob be cave enemies)
The water wraith in the secret cave can be frozen with ice pikmin because he's water. Don't know if ice blasts work but using one ice pikmin and oatchis rush could work as well?
The heaviest treasure needs one thousand pikmin to carry it so you'll need to use one hundred purple pikmin to carry the heaviest treasure in this game so technically you can't get one hundred percent without using pikmin
2:25 dude use 100 glow pikmin trust me i did it bcs i was afraid of hes possible power but... with 100pikmin you literaly ONE SHOT each phase and cant take elemental dmg so you can attack him when you want
What I did was no grow run. I didn't grow any pikmin (outside the first 7 reds) and never collected any beasts in the overworld as well so the only pikmin i ever got were wild pikmin. I Also enetered every single cave with 0 pikmin to see if i could beat it using only the wild pikmin that showed up in the cave. Came close! There were a few cave areas that were impossible to do because they didn't give you any wild pikmin at all or not enough so whenever that happened i just used glow pikmin but never turned them into any other color and left them behind. Was Fun! Gonna now try to bum rush white and purple onion then use only whites and purples for as much of the game as i can (Along with oatchi)
I wish the Extra Hand was earlier in the game, I’m one of those people that 100%d the ENTIRE GAME before I did the final boss, because it’s, y’know, the *final* boss, but even if you speedrun there there’s nowhere near enough stuff to make it feel worthwhile imo :(
Same with the pluckophone and purple/white onions. You get them way too late to make any use of them. It’s like they want me to only do the minimum amount of work required for each area even though I can complete them with the Pikmin types recommended, which is unlike the past 3 games where you could return to an area with a new type and get new things
@@DylBro101 Purple and White Onions can be obtained as soon as you rescue Olimar, the only requirement is finishing Shipwreck Tale, so you can actually get them before the Rock and Wing onions and use them in the final two areas.
I recommend copying files during Pikmin 4 challenge playthroughs to avoid irreversible mistakes. When I did a 30-day 100% run, I backed up my file after each area. The main story lacking a rewind feature is annoying-especially because the game constantly encourages Dandori.
One thing that could be really helpful about the extra hand (haven't tested it but I believe this is how it works) is that if the player grabs on first and then oatchi does, you can let go and oatchi will not swallow it, which is helpful in situations where you want to speed up carrying
@@itsyaboi5713 so if you could prevent oatchi from swallowing... for example by doing what the original comment describes, assuming it works... everything would be okay, right?
I've found that you need at most 15 Pikmin in Olimar's shipwreck tale, because one of the gears is in an area that Moss can't reach(the top of the sand castle where a blue onion is in the main game)
Is there any tactical or strategic reason you would want to remove the gear for yourself or oatchi? I can't think of any scenario in normal story or a challenge where you wouldn't want to have as many as you can. Just seems like one of those fluff options they added because they could, but not because they should.
Personally I turned off the treasure detector sometimes because the noise it makes is annoying when you're right next to a treasure. But yeah every other gear idk why you'd turn them off except to add challenge for yourself.
As soon as I got the louder whistle I unequipped it. It's hard enough to select the pikmin you want with the regular whistle, no need to make it bigger.
Found out if you delete certain files in the save, you can make a pseudo ng+. Adding a copy of 4 to my hacked switch soon to mod it and may see if true pikmanless could be done. :)
You could use the Pikmin duplication glitch using the Candypopbuds to get all your needed Purple Pikmin and possibly other ones. Speaking of glitches, maybe new ones could ve found that would make this possibke using 0 Pikmin ever?
You can actually get the golden vaulting table with only 1 trip to the cavern for a king. If you throw a pikmin into a candy pop bud that is the same color, the pikmin gets sprouted, but the bud doesn’t despawn. You can just throw all 100 purples into a purple candy pop bud and leave
I did a 7 Pikmin challenge of this game myself. Take the 7 Pikmin needed to carry the Stone of Advancement and only use those for the entire game. (Like the 50 Pikmin Challenge of Pikmin 1, 37/101 Pikmin Challenge of Pikmin 2, and 42 Pikmin Challenge of 3.) Here are my notes: Unique Treasure Collected 233/239 Total Treasure Collected 400/410 Castaways Collected 41/43 1: Scaly Custard (Engulfed Castle Sublevel 3, Web, 10 weight) 2: Glinty Circular Disc (Engulfed Castle bag) 3: Noble Goo (Engulfed Castle bag) 4: Juicy Gaggle (Engulfed Castle bag) 5: Amiguous Hostel (Engulfed Castle bag) 6: Heroine's Tear (Engulfed Castle bag) 7: Lesser Mock Bottom (Engulfed Castle bag) 8: Telekenesis Detector (Need 10 Winged Pikmin) 9: King of Meats (300 weight) 10: Golden Vaulting Table (1000 weight) Six of these treasures and both missing castaways are unavailable because of the bag on Sublevel 5 of Engulfed Castle needing 100 weight to squash. (10 Purple Pikmin.) Big sad. Thank you for the tips from the last video. That helped me get the Mysterious Carraige in the Sun-Speckled Terrace by using the glowmob to get Glow Pikmin to lower the clipboard shown at 3:05 in this video during night mode. If anyone has ideas to get these last 10 treasures with 7 Pikmin or less let me know!
Currently We Can 100% The Game While Only Unlocking Red, Purple, Winged And Glow Pikmin (Excluding Onions Of Course). Wings Are Only Needed For The Telekinesis Detector, Purples Are Necessary For 2 Treasures And Waterwraiths, And Red/Glow Pikmin Are Forced Upon You. I Only See Potential To Avoid Winged Pikmin, But Haven't Found A Way Yet.
oatchi does NOT need swallow to accres olimar mode...oatchi ONLY gets swallow if he has the 100 carry upgrate, other wise olimar wont give oatchi swallow, HOWEVER you can still accress olimar mode without swallow
I did a no upgrades challenge where I couldn’t get any farlic, captain upgrades, and no oatchi upgrades. Items and Russ items were allowed. I managed to finish it but I’m not sure if you can 100% it or not. Also onions count as upgrades.
I hope you aren't completely done with this series yet, because I'm curious what treasures require what. Could you please make a third video explaining what treasures require no Pikmin, what treasures require glow Pikmin, and what treasures require specific Pikmin?
I tried doing this but without Oatchi and only pikmin and I was unable to get past the first area there is so many places where it has treasure needing a rush and jumps
You might be interested in this weird glitch posted here that seems to allow purple pikmin spawn that are not counted for some reason : ruclips.net/video/WetvlHDaTjc/видео.html
Idk if this will ever be seen, but I challenge someone to do a challenge that I call the permanent switch challenge. What I have in mind for this challenge is you can only use one pikmin color at a time, and once you switch a color, you can’t switch back. So you use red pikmin for as long as you want, but once you switch from red pikmin to let’s say yellow pikmin, you can’t use reds for the rest of the run.
Insane difficult (non possible to 100% with) you can only use 2 Pikmin maximum and no upgrades and no oatchi, also no using items on enemy's plus the obvious thing no second player. Currently I'm doing 2 difficultlys before that witch is just no oatchi and no upgrades + no second player,
2:45 that’s so funny, I’ve heard the exact opposite from another Pikmin RUclipsr! The dog being the best final boss and the golden blob being the worst. I kind of agree with the blob being the worst. My favorite final boss is spider louie.
If he's just talking about the arena plasm wraith fight then I respect his opinion, but if you include all of formidable oak as the fight then calling it the worst one is insane imo
Considering Louie described the giant bread bug as "a mountain of flavorless meat only suitable for buffets." it makes you wonder why he'd ask you to collect one for his feast
what I did for the finale boss bring 100 purples when he is about to flip over I use spicy spray then Oatchi rush after about 2 seconds of attacking use lighting for longer stun and be able to one cycle each phase. even with this method the boss took 6 minutes.
Y'know I bet the Primordial Thicket could be done if u have the auto pluck, but ofc that takes an insane amount of Raw Material so that's not exactly possible in this run
Im very happy im not the only one who thinks this games final boss is kindaaaaa bad, great video again btw it was amazing to see a second part to this.
You know the channel is good when they measure views in farlic
I saw this comment as it happened
*flarlic
America:
@@ShatitoLlegando lol
Hes not a nerd. Hes a GAMER
Part of me wants P2 to get a full captain and rescue pup just so that there can be 4 captains to complete the trend.
Olimar and Moss do technically count as the third and fourth story mode playable characters, so they do sorta continue that trend. But yea… wish you or player 2 could use them elsewhere. Or any of the other Rescue Team members just doing next to nothing all day
@@chuchuraichu3329if you count Olimar and Moss then you have to count both Louie and the Director in 2, breaking the tradition at 2 rather than at 4
Oatchi and Broatchi
I was so hoping when you get into the main game olimar would join you
@@OscatJ Good point- I did not consider that
In theory you can complete Shipwreck tail without unlocking swallow... as long as you never got lv 3 super buff...
It's funny how with buffs the captain is one of the fastest item carriers, but with no other upgrades they're slower than a purple, as well as somehow not being able to carry at least 10 since they can carry purples.
Ive started an "extinction" run which ive seen other people do before for the previous games.
killing every pikmin before the end of every day and starting only with the single pikmin of every type
if youd like another challenge like this one maybe you can try and beat the game with the least % possible? it might be a little too grindy tho (as the main way of getting sparklium would prob be cave enemies)
Man I'm glad the first video got a sequel.
The water wraith in the secret cave can be frozen with ice pikmin because he's water. Don't know if ice blasts work but using one ice pikmin and oatchis rush could work as well?
oatchi oh my god youre adopted dude LMAO???????? UNCALLED FOR????????????????
What if i don't have 2p mode?
Also good work!💙
The heaviest treasure needs one thousand pikmin to carry it so you'll need to use one hundred purple pikmin to carry the heaviest treasure in this game so technically you can't get one hundred percent without using pikmin
cool run my dude.
Imagine if 2p mode had you as oachi and wen you rescued olimar then 2p will be olimar and have moss
I was just thinking of wanting another video with this. (^^♪
2:25 dude use 100 glow pikmin trust me i did it bcs i was afraid of hes possible power but... with 100pikmin you literaly ONE SHOT each phase and cant take elemental dmg so you can attack him when you want
Oatchi more like Slowchi, am I right?
Your playing oatchi 4
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I’m blue pikmin
first
10:13
What I did was no grow run. I didn't grow any pikmin (outside the first 7 reds) and never collected any beasts in the overworld as well so the only pikmin i ever got were wild pikmin. I Also enetered every single cave with 0 pikmin to see if i could beat it using only the wild pikmin that showed up in the cave. Came close! There were a few cave areas that were impossible to do because they didn't give you any wild pikmin at all or not enough so whenever that happened i just used glow pikmin but never turned them into any other color and left them behind. Was Fun! Gonna now try to bum rush white and purple onion then use only whites and purples for as much of the game as i can (Along with oatchi)
Bros never got breasts
@@cezken5what?
I wish the Extra Hand was earlier in the game, I’m one of those people that 100%d the ENTIRE GAME before I did the final boss, because it’s, y’know, the *final* boss, but even if you speedrun there there’s nowhere near enough stuff to make it feel worthwhile imo :(
I suspect the extra hand is mostly for dandori challenges.
Same with the pluckophone and purple/white onions. You get them way too late to make any use of them. It’s like they want me to only do the minimum amount of work required for each area even though I can complete them with the Pikmin types recommended, which is unlike the past 3 games where you could return to an area with a new type and get new things
@@DylBro101 Purple and White Onions can be obtained as soon as you rescue Olimar, the only requirement is finishing Shipwreck Tale, so you can actually get them before the Rock and Wing onions and use them in the final two areas.
I recommend copying files during Pikmin 4 challenge playthroughs to avoid irreversible mistakes. When I did a 30-day 100% run, I backed up my file after each area. The main story lacking a rewind feature is annoying-especially because the game constantly encourages Dandori.
i couldn't cause the other file slots are being used
One thing that could be really helpful about the extra hand (haven't tested it but I believe this is how it works) is that if the player grabs on first and then oatchi does, you can let go and oatchi will not swallow it, which is helpful in situations where you want to speed up carrying
This does not work, as a leader carrying with Extra Hand does not speed up Oatchi's or any Pikmin's carrying.
@@lazdahuman ah, unfortunate
@@lazdahuman what about the pebble launch? that is the primary reason to avoid swallow
@@samuelfaille-denis8098the reason to avoid swallow is because you won’t be able to speed up oatchi by hitting him with the pebble pitcher
@@itsyaboi5713 so if you could prevent oatchi from swallowing... for example by doing what the original comment describes, assuming it works... everything would be okay, right?
I've found that you need at most 15 Pikmin in Olimar's shipwreck tale, because one of the gears is in an area that Moss can't reach(the top of the sand castle where a blue onion is in the main game)
Finally, the part 2 we didn’t know would happen. 😎
Is there any tactical or strategic reason you would want to remove the gear for yourself or oatchi? I can't think of any scenario in normal story or a challenge where you wouldn't want to have as many as you can. Just seems like one of those fluff options they added because they could, but not because they should.
Personally I turned off the treasure detector sometimes because the noise it makes is annoying when you're right next to a treasure. But yeah every other gear idk why you'd turn them off except to add challenge for yourself.
As soon as I got the louder whistle I unequipped it. It's hard enough to select the pikmin you want with the regular whistle, no need to make it bigger.
The linup trumpet while having joy-cons horizontal. Everytime you want to swap pikmin, you stop with it.
Found out if you delete certain files in the save, you can make a pseudo ng+. Adding a copy of 4 to my hacked switch soon to mod it and may see if true pikmanless could be done. :)
You could use the Pikmin duplication glitch using the Candypopbuds to get all your needed Purple Pikmin and possibly other ones.
Speaking of glitches, maybe new ones could ve found that would make this possibke using 0 Pikmin ever?
fun fact, throwing a pikmin of the same time into the candy pop bud of that color, the candy pop bud won't count it as a pikmin.
You can actually get the golden vaulting table with only 1 trip to the cavern for a king. If you throw a pikmin into a candy pop bud that is the same color, the pikmin gets sprouted, but the bud doesn’t despawn. You can just throw all 100 purples into a purple candy pop bud and leave
Every RUclipsr when they have a challenge run video do well:
Wow I have so many views and in celebration imma make another one
Good video tho
For the primordial thicket challenge you can use 10 less purples of you have max strength on oatchi
You can't normally. Since it's behind Oatchi proof barriers.
I had no idea Louie had a series of side quests for you wtf I thought I was finally done with this massive game
I did a 7 Pikmin challenge of this game myself. Take the 7 Pikmin needed to carry the Stone of Advancement and only use those for the entire game. (Like the 50 Pikmin Challenge of Pikmin 1, 37/101 Pikmin Challenge of Pikmin 2, and 42 Pikmin Challenge of 3.) Here are my notes:
Unique Treasure Collected 233/239
Total Treasure Collected 400/410
Castaways Collected 41/43
1: Scaly Custard (Engulfed Castle Sublevel 3, Web, 10 weight)
2: Glinty Circular Disc (Engulfed Castle bag)
3: Noble Goo (Engulfed Castle bag)
4: Juicy Gaggle (Engulfed Castle bag)
5: Amiguous Hostel (Engulfed Castle bag)
6: Heroine's Tear (Engulfed Castle bag)
7: Lesser Mock Bottom (Engulfed Castle bag)
8: Telekenesis Detector (Need 10 Winged Pikmin)
9: King of Meats (300 weight)
10: Golden Vaulting Table (1000 weight)
Six of these treasures and both missing castaways are unavailable because of the bag on Sublevel 5 of Engulfed Castle needing 100 weight to squash. (10 Purple Pikmin.) Big sad. Thank you for the tips from the last video. That helped me get the Mysterious Carraige in the Sun-Speckled Terrace by using the glowmob to get Glow Pikmin to lower the clipboard shown at 3:05 in this video during night mode. If anyone has ideas to get these last 10 treasures with 7 Pikmin or less let me know!
Can you 100% PIKMIN 4 with NO Pikmin?!
Answer: No.
Yeah but it's fun to see if you can lol
Currently We Can 100% The Game While Only Unlocking Red, Purple, Winged And Glow Pikmin (Excluding Onions Of Course). Wings Are Only Needed For The Telekinesis Detector, Purples Are Necessary For 2 Treasures And Waterwraiths, And Red/Glow Pikmin Are Forced Upon You. I Only See Potential To Avoid Winged Pikmin, But Haven't Found A Way Yet.
You need to do one where u can only played as oachie
First is the worst second is the best
How is this even possible?
true
riggy
@@luke-e-o
oatchi does NOT need swallow to accres olimar mode...oatchi ONLY gets swallow if he has the 100 carry upgrate, other wise olimar wont give oatchi swallow, HOWEVER you can still accress olimar mode without swallow
I did a no upgrades challenge where I couldn’t get any farlic, captain upgrades, and no oatchi upgrades. Items and Russ items were allowed. I managed to finish it but I’m not sure if you can 100% it or not. Also onions count as upgrades.
I take it you haven't heard, but you can unequip swallow from the menu. I haven't tried it with learned abilities specifically, but it will work.
I hope you aren't completely done with this series yet, because I'm curious what treasures require what. Could you please make a third video explaining what treasures require no Pikmin, what treasures require glow Pikmin, and what treasures require specific Pikmin?
I could make a list but idk if that would be enough for a 3rd video. Maybe I'll make it as a community post or RUclips short instead
@@SonicAdventure2 that'd work. I'm just curious the numbers on something like this, since it's such a neat premise
It’s nice getting to see more of your personality. You usually have to be so formal for subjects
I didn’t think Bowblax would like pikmin but I’m so glad he does! Wonder if he also likes kingdom hearts
Has any else got the fierybulblax in engulfed castle
I tried doing this but without Oatchi and only pikmin and I was unable to get past the first area there is so many places where it has treasure needing a rush and jumps
You might be interested in this weird glitch posted here that seems to allow purple pikmin spawn that are not counted for some reason :
ruclips.net/video/WetvlHDaTjc/видео.html
I didn’t get swallow until after beating shipwreck tale
I’m doing this my self I dont know about me 100% it
is the orbital drone glitch patched?
Nope
I'm just glad you learned how to pronounce Flarlic
Alternative title: no, you cannot beat pikmin 4 without pikmin
Idk if this will ever be seen, but I challenge someone to do a challenge that I call the permanent switch challenge.
What I have in mind for this challenge is you can only use one pikmin color at a time, and once you switch a color, you can’t switch back.
So you use red pikmin for as long as you want, but once you switch from red pikmin to let’s say yellow pikmin, you can’t use reds for the rest of the run.
Idk how interesting that run would be considering you'd want to hold onto reds until Gaints Hearth for the pinecones
thats like over 10 000 flarlics worth of vieuws.....
hey don't do my boy purple like that he did nothing wrong
Making it more fun, nope I hate myself
Whoever looses get to spend the night with Louie 😐😐😭
Average Dingo from the Rescue Corps
Insane difficult (non possible to 100% with) you can only use 2 Pikmin maximum and no upgrades and no oatchi, also no using items on enemy's plus the obvious thing no second player. Currently I'm doing 2 difficultlys before that witch is just no oatchi and no upgrades + no second player,
And another difficultly above that is no oatchi, no upgrades, no second player and the Pikmin cap is the max of 20.
Of course beside the required parts for oatchi to do/ get stuff. While making sure oatchi never helps besides the required stuff
Certified doge approved RUclipsr 👍
2:45 that’s so funny, I’ve heard the exact opposite from another Pikmin RUclipsr! The dog being the best final boss and the golden blob being the worst. I kind of agree with the blob being the worst. My favorite final boss is spider louie.
If he's just talking about the arena plasm wraith fight then I respect his opinion, but if you include all of formidable oak as the fight then calling it the worst one is insane imo
@@SonicAdventure2 I found it a bit gimmicky. But to each their own
This man has some great pickmin skills
i am 1/10 of a farlic, my life is complete
Only 90 pikmin are required
Considering Louie described the giant bread bug as "a mountain of flavorless meat only suitable for buffets." it makes you wonder why he'd ask you to collect one for his feast
He wanted a buffet?
Bro Said otcahi is adopted
YEAH BABY IVE BEEN WAITING FOE THIS
Love ❤ the pikmin games
what I did for the finale boss bring 100 purples when he is about to flip over I use spicy spray then Oatchi rush after about 2 seconds of attacking use lighting for longer stun and be able to one cycle each phase. even with this method the boss took 6 minutes.
again, i love 4, its a good game
Y'know I bet the Primordial Thicket could be done if u have the auto pluck, but ofc that takes an insane amount of Raw Material so that's not exactly possible in this run
jin；'/。“？
Are you Bowblax?
W bowborb
Thinking the final boss wasn’t that good is an insane take
The final boss is ASS
Bowborb ❤️
Make the purple pikmin swim (there just like ice pikmin) ( real )
Glow Pikmin annihilate the final boss, making it the easiest in the series… kind of like this entire game.
YESSS love it
gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood
Haven't seen the whole vid, I'm Curious on how to get the Gold bar
79
Wow not even subscribedbyet but this channel came back
darn. i don't have pikmin 4. ill be back in a month or two.
No
That is so important to use oatchi oatchi more like strong oatchi
me just trying to 100% it normally
WowZa!
Ok
Idk
Don't you only need 90 purples to get the item since you can have otachi grab it (and he's worth 100)?
Yeah. I just forgot while playing cause I'm used to grinding 100 purples for the dumbbell in Pikmin 2 lol
Actually no, it's placed past a rock wall that oatchi can't climb, so to my knowledge you really need 100
we got roasted by bowborb badly bro
The gold bar breaks this challenge
Oh and the ham
Ok…
Sorry I called you dumb at the end of the vid lol
@@SonicAdventure2 nah it’s fine i didn’t even check myself 😅
Im very happy im not the only one who thinks this games final boss is kindaaaaa bad, great video again btw it was amazing to see a second part to this.