Maybe something will happen in Daima with Vegeta and Goku where Vegeta gest pi$$ed and wants to surpass Goku again, which is what some people complained about Super Vegeta wanting a rivalry with Goku when he admitted that Goku was superior in the Buu Saga.
Oh i havent seen anyone mention this: great apes have pointy ears, maybe the oozaru transformation is rooted in the demon realm and the super saiyan like yamoshi’s god power are divine in origin
I like the idea that the people of Yardrat are also from the Demon Realm. This would actually make sense why the pink Yardrat aliens also appear in Universe 2 in the Tournament of Power and aren't exclusive to Universe 7. I always thought it was weird how no one ever really talked about how this race apparently lived in multiple universes that were NOT twin universes (like U6 and U7). It could have been a subtle hint even back then that they weren't originally from the mortal realm.
I just hope that since he has complete control of the manga and has a history of implementing characters from all walks of dragonball (he used Z broly in dragonball AF) that toyotaro does use some characters and open plots from daima in future arcs of super
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i hope not tho...cuz it will be wasted. since this is before BOG and super. also leaves the question why goku and vegge never talk about that form ever again. especially meeting broly or jiren the lame.
@ssppeeaarr well what's the point of talking about a power you can't use. That's a very Vegeta thing to do. Like how he achieved SSG. id have to watch battle of the gods again but didn't that also start at trunks birthday party? Like I feel we're going to do a big adventure with a reset to before it all started and then BOG starts.
There are lot of fan theories but let's us always remember even Toriyama never really think a lot of different things in Dragon Ball universe and even forgets things...he was just there enjoying putting things whatever he likes according to his pleasures..and the fans enjoys it too
My theory: after Daima ends, they'll remake the entirety of Dragon Ball Super with good visuals and a storyline that's closer to that of the manga to give the manga plenty of time to make new arcs and chapters when they finally continue again. Because how long is Daima going to be again? 20 episodes? Considering the manga is still on halt, this is not enough episodes to keep the manga ahead if after Daima we go straight into the Moro arc, or even a Broly arc.
Main villains of Daima, my thoughts are: 1. ... The Makaioshin with Gomah, I believe his name is... "Desagu" or something, if someone knows his name please tell me, but he wants a wish and Gomah didn't really want to give him a wish, that seems like it will come back and maybe change him, and he is a cool and layed back and respectful and all of that, but he just seems too nice in my opinion. 2. Neva the Namekian, if he does wish for his youth back and becomes powerful. 3. If it is another enemy, like if Neva or someone else uses Dragon Balls, whether the ones on Earth or in the Demon Realm to wish back Namekains in the Demon Realm and then that introduces Lord Slug as a villain. I don't know. Tell me what you all think.
When you watch the first episode its shows the sister demon Kai with a lit and dark side unlike the others that are in full light. This is a symbol that she has a dark side and will be our main protagonist. Guaranteed.
Most likely it’s going over the creation of the dragon balls. Noticing that the demon realm has a set of 3. Back to super, doesn’t cereal have a set of 2? And then we finally get back story to the namekians. It’s an all-around bridging of gaps. And the throwback to dragon ball. (Like a successful throwback) it’s db with vegeta and the rest of the dream team. It’s got a good vibe to it
I don't know if Daima really matters or not to what I'm about to say, but the rest of the theories here are of interest, especially the Namekians and Yardrats having ties to the demons and the kais. For the most part, I want to focus on the Namekians, since we don't really know much about the Yardrats. The first interesting note is that it is entirely possible that Namekians are some sort of hybrid race between the demons and the kais, with great potential both for good and evil, and that would explain so many different things about them. We know that when Piccolo and Kami split, one of them took up the title of Demon King while the other became Kami (or else God). We also know that Namekians don't need to eat, though if memory serves I know that in the games they had farms, I can't recall if they did in the show or not, nor if it was ever shown what they were farming and why. More importantly we know that Namekians also have their own version of permanent fusion, something that otherwise only happens when two kais use their potaras. Now this also brings up the possibility that the Metamorans, the ones who taught Goku the fusion dance, might also have some sort of relationship to the divine, since apparently when mortals use the potaras they basically get a free and perfect fusion dance but otherwise it seems to have a lot of the same drawbacks considering things like timelimits and fusion breackdown if too much power is used. So it seems to me that potara fusion is just the perfect outcome of fusion while the dance depends on the perfection of the dancers (and logically mortals cannot achieve true perfection).
Couple things about this video. 1. It's been stated that namekians are from the demon realm directly by degesu the demon supreme Kai. 2. The way they travel between the demon realm and what they call "the outside" makes it seem like that there is only one demon realm, mainly because king gomah and degesu are asked which universe do you want to go to.
That was because the inside of the big fish they went to its a realm between realms so its not connected to one macrocosm. Each macrocosm have their own demon realms. U would know this if u seen the db macrocosm diagram. The demon realm is the opposite of the living universe. Think of the macrocosm as a coin with the tail side being the living universe and the head side the demon realm
@@fatdurk7934 I know about the whole demon realm is at the bottom of the universe's macrocosm thing, but like everything it can change. We probably won't know for sure for a while but just the way that they're asked it just makes it seem like that there's only one demon realm. Not to mention the whole fact that the demon realm itself is inconsistent across different forms of media, so only time will tell if there's confirmation that there's multiple demon realms or just one.
@@d4c1vtn98 um bro the demon realm being the opposite side of the living universe has been a known thing for 30 years and no nothing has changed idk why ur confused. There isn’t one demon realm. Every macrocosm has their own demon realm like how every human or mortal has their own hell and each planet has their own heaven aka when king yemma is stated to inly be the judge for earths heaven.
I watched the first 4 episodes of daima thinking it would be gt all over again, but I kinda like it? I just hope they wont be kids for long and we get moro and granola
Not sure you can give credit for chapter 103 to Toriyama, unless he's come back as a manga creating ghost (RIP). You probably meant Toyotarou, who took over the manga for most of super.
1 arc short from the common 4 arcs of the dragon ball animes (In classic theres the dragonballs hunt, red ribbon, king piccolo, and 23 budokai sagas, In z its the saiyans, namek, cell, and boo, sagas, Gt the hunt for the dragonballs, baby, super 17, and black star dragons, saga, And super with bog, ressurection f, goku black, and tournament of power,)
Why do people want so much out of the shows? They don’t need to tie into each other. Just enjoy the shows. They’re all enjoyable in their own right. Dragon ball, Dragon ball z, dragon ball gt, dragon ball super, and dragon ball Diama.
Goku and vegeta can't possibly meet the u6 saiyans because they are met for the first time in Super. So there is zero chance of them making an appearance.
I don't understand why everyone keeps bringing up End of Z. Can't anybody think that just for once MAYBE they're going to skip past End of Z or bypass it entirely and make it non-canon? End of Z was made before BoG. Before Super was even a concept. End of Z was an end cap for the END of all Dragon Ball series. And then they made BoG and decided to make Super, continuing on with the series and more than likely past the end cap.
I loved DBZ as a kid. But as an adult... man DB is just the same old story again and again. It's so lame and boring to me now. Literally the same story retold. I just can't get back into it. I watched Super through the mulitverse battle and thought it was stupid how they randomly buff Roshi to be as powerful as he was. It was so lame, they should have put Buu in instead of Roshi. And the Gohan Beast movie was so mid, giving away free buffs again. The same can be said about One Piece, but there's so much backstory and plots happening elsewhere and being set up in the future, that it's enough to keep my attention week to week. Even with how horrible each episode is filled in with junk, I still come back for more. The story is so much deeper even though it's the same 'Side characters fight battles and power up to fight the side villains until the final showdown with Luffy and the big boss, for Luffy's big powerup'.
I think it has already been said that daima is gonna be set after the buu saga and before super, which also happens after the buu saga and nowadays is about to tie in with the end of Z, and probably go a little bit beyond that and then end, right? So why is everyone throwing theories when we already have a timeline? Theories about the plot and how it will end and tie with super? Okay maybe, but just because super is in a hiatusafter toriyama's death and this came out, it doesn't mean that the canon will change even more and get worse and confusing, this is just an add-on,we already had enough changes when super came out and then gave us a different story and a new broly and bardock and went back in time compared to what we saw in the end of Z. The manga will continue and HOPEFULLY end soon and stop the story right there after its original author's death, this is just something in between to do some sort of GT shit, hopefully it won't add plot holes to super and will end fast and without a new transformation, if that happens it has to be in super with whatever happens now that we're gonna go past the end of Z. Otherwise it will be a mess and like i said, the manga should end now that toriyama is gone, everything has an end, it can't go on forever, if they want that they're gonna have to do something like db gt or heroes canon to add alternate stories, or they should just make daima and whatever they do after super non canon (i think it was said that daima is canon although it won't come out in manga form(?) to add to the franchise and make money with non canon stuff because dragon ball will end up being way too long otherwise if they continue it without an end on sight, just like one piece, naruto continueing with boruto and 2 blue vortex.. etc. It has to end on a high note,yes, but it should end
@@carlosarizcun_97 nah its gonna carry on. toriyama even wanted it that way. he told gokus jap voice actress to take care of him... and toyo will keep it going as well. he already said super manga will go on. after super hero movie its basically a few months away from EOZ time. so its coming and will eventually go beyond. oh and also cant leave a epic cliff hanger like black freeza lurking out there... something big is gonna happen with that at some point too. theres stuff thats still not finished in the lore. as well like oob and goku reunite again now after dbs events and all the god ki stuff. broly too with his training. good things end but it aint dragonballs time yet. even with toriyama gone. rip. and goku hasnt even mastered all the levels of UI yet either. basically until goku reaches the level of angels and has no reason to keep fighting. lol. so until that happens and it being the last canon most powerful form from toriyama it cant end.
@thebatman9628 What are you talking about? The manga for super has been ongoing since the ToP ended. There’s 3/4 entire arcs that haven’t been animated so I’m not sure if hat you’re talking about.
@@oldmanjesus9855 that's stupid...if u want to say beast gohan is an asspull that's fine but every other form was earned... you must have been watching a different show
@@oldmanjesus9855ultimate was foreshadowed from gohans introduction with his potential and atleast we saw it happen on screen ssj3 and ss blue were achieved offscreen and we were only told about them and I'm not downplaying goku ...what I'm saying is saying gohan is studying again is just keeps destroying his character
@@SceraseeMorow off screen doesn't mean azzpull. Sitting around, doing nothing and getting power because "potential" it's quite literally the definition of azzpull... Gohan is the king of azzpulls in dragon ball, that's how his entire character works: minimum effort then suddenly gets enough marie sue powers to overpower anybody around. Azzpull unlocked! And this guy tried to mention off screen transformation when talking about azzpulls... This is what is wrong with dragon ball fans, big comprehension issues, because half the information is unknown to them at all times.
I'm calling it now, Super will go past the end of Z, and they're going to do it via "alternate time line". We already know every time Trunks comes back to interact with the past it creates an alternate time line that starts from that point. It would be insanely easy to set up a new time line that Super can continue into OR set it up so that the end of Z was an alternate time line all along. There's just too much story left to tell before we get to the end of Z.
@@anubisgravatate7544 oh it connects to super, in the granolah arc it's hinted at that the namekians aren't from universe 7 but a different realm entirely, and daima answered this hint with namekians are from the demon realm. And the whole supreme Kai thing isn't a retcon they could always just fuse again at the end which is likely going to happen.
@@d4c1vtn98 Well, I think the Shin and Kibito split is more important in getting Daima apart from Super than you think. If this was indeed connecting to Super and goes before the events of Battle of Gods, and they fuse again, then it doesn't make sense that Shin and Kibito use the Namek Dragon Balls to defuse before the Champa tournament when they already know a simpler way to do that by getting inside of Buu, as stated on Daima chapter 1.
@@cloud_strife8 toriyama wrote this and I don't think there's much of a reason for him to just make Daima to be a separate continuity, nor try to reboot super in a way. There's always a couple of reasons to pull from to explain why they wouldn't have Buu separate them again. 1. Buu doesn't like how they taste (stupid reason really but when it comes to Buu, it's likely to happen) or 2. At the time of when they wanted to separate Buu was in one of his long sleep cycles. (Also stupid but also very likely) But we'll just have to wait and see.
dragon ball gt isn't canon because Toriyama had nothing to do with it .. and this is his version of GT..which was never confirmed .. but we know he didn't like that GT shit and said let me do a better version lol
Bro, the manga has NOTHING to do with the anime. This isn't the 90s. They are two different continuities with two different rights owners, which is why you won't be seeing manga exclusive content in Sparking Zero for the foreseeable future.
That's pretty laughable that at the beginning of the moro. Ark, everybody was condemning the hell out of it Saying how terrible arc it was. It was such a copy of the cell games when it wasn't and that moro looked like cell. when he doesn't. In fact, hit in universe 6 has more resemblance and looks to cell than even moro does. I mean, I personally agree. Moro ark was one of the best ark in dragon ball super and i'm not the biggest fan of dragon ball super
I thought it was a good arc, but then it was followed by my least favorite arc in all of dragonball, the granola arc. Never seen so many random arse pulls in one arc in my life that didn't make sense. Felt so weird going from the banger that was Moro, imo, to granola shenanigans.
@oldmanjesus9855 hey at least he's the true, first villain in dragon ball super. That aint either a God of destruction or A. Reappearance villain, that trash talk everybody too early. Then wines and throws a fit when after he loses and gets his @$$ handed to him. Uhhhhhhh Cough freiza. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 The only villain that was in the termanent of power was goku himself Because he appointed himself as a villain. I disagree you . I think they took a lot of the aspects of dragon ball z. And made a true villain and boy after the dragon ball fans seen it for what it was. Moro was truly a favorite villain because they taking concepts and characteristics that made dragon ball z villains so good . And tested goku's mantle and potential but most of all test the limits of utra instinct of all it's glory. And brought so much tension, so much fear. So much adrinalyn anticipation of what will happen in the next. It was just such a breath of fresh Air, they finally see a villain as brutal as the z. Villains, and let's be serious. Dragon ball super, their villains are subpar comparison to their z counterparts. Except Goku black maybe cause he really was pretty good. But mostly because of these so called censorship..
@@2musicSoundtrackfandom579 I'm not disagreeing that Moro was a great villain and that overall the arc was great, that is absolutely true. I was just pointing out that the moro arc in fact takes a lot of ideas from the cell saga, and the buu saga too, although the buu saga is understandable since they are correlated in some aspects.
Super is non canon fanfiction garbage. Daima is the true continuation of DBZ!!! No bs gods and angels, no goofy super saiyan god forms, just pure OG Super Saiyan.
This is so true, in dragon ball super literally all power ceiling is thrown into the trash, like how does CABBA destroy buu???? Also the forms are literally just trash and we deserve to see the core super saiyan forms more used
Why do you care? At least we get new content, I can tell you’re at least 25 or younger because there’s no way an actual adult can be that immature about a cartoon.
Just because the characters are small again? DBGT was more of a DB Classic 2.0 in the Black Star Saga. For me, DB Daima is DB Classic 3.0. I like DBGT and also DB Daima because it's another classic Dragon Ball that's not just about new forms and showdowns.
@@Kamboragetsu On what authority does the manga have on rewriting the English language? People from Texas are called Texans. People from Florida, Floridians. Mexico, Mexicans. Canada, Canadians. Mars, Martians. Etc Calling someone from a planet called Namek, Nameks is not proper English. They are Namekians regardless of the translators bad knowledge of the English language. Nameks would be referring to multiple planets because it’s the plural form of the planet. Namekians is referring to the people of the singular planet namek.
Maybe something will happen in Daima with Vegeta and Goku where Vegeta gest pi$$ed and wants to surpass Goku again, which is what some people complained about Super Vegeta wanting a rivalry with Goku when he admitted that Goku was superior in the Buu Saga.
If you actually still think Daima is related to DBS you are delusional
Makes sense
can't wait for episode 2 and the Dubbed 🎉
Oh i havent seen anyone mention this: great apes have pointy ears, maybe the oozaru transformation is rooted in the demon realm and the super saiyan like yamoshi’s god power are divine in origin
Krillin also called vegeta/ vegetas energy demonic while he was transforming
Pretty sure he said it because he was horrified at how high it was? @@RandomName-xx9ls
I like the idea that the people of Yardrat are also from the Demon Realm. This would actually make sense why the pink Yardrat aliens also appear in Universe 2 in the Tournament of Power and aren't exclusive to Universe 7.
I always thought it was weird how no one ever really talked about how this race apparently lived in multiple universes that were NOT twin universes (like U6 and U7). It could have been a subtle hint even back then that they weren't originally from the mortal realm.
I just hope that since he has complete control of the manga and has a history of implementing characters from all walks of dragonball (he used Z broly in dragonball AF) that toyotaro does use some characters and open plots from daima in future arcs of super
The animation was so good I just hope it marks a turning point for DB as a whole regarding visual fidelity.
Thank you for this! I’m so hyped to watch Daima now 🐉
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Theory :we will see SSJ4 which is only accessible to goku in the demon realm which is the pure demonic rage of the sayains great ape transformation.
i hope not tho...cuz it will be wasted. since this is before BOG and super.
also leaves the question why goku and vegge never talk about that form ever again.
especially meeting broly or jiren the lame.
@ssppeeaarr well what's the point of talking about a power you can't use. That's a very Vegeta thing to do. Like how he achieved SSG. id have to watch battle of the gods again but didn't that also start at trunks birthday party? Like I feel we're going to do a big adventure with a reset to before it all started and then BOG starts.
I already like Daima more than most of Super.
Already cuz ep1 was kinda mid
There are lot of fan theories but let's us always remember even Toriyama never really think a lot of different things in Dragon Ball universe and even forgets things...he was just there enjoying putting things whatever he likes according to his pleasures..and the fans enjoys it too
true he never brings them up unless necessary or he liked the idea
Going from super to daima is like going from yugioh to rush duels
My theory: after Daima ends, they'll remake the entirety of Dragon Ball Super with good visuals and a storyline that's closer to that of the manga to give the manga plenty of time to make new arcs and chapters when they finally continue again.
Because how long is Daima going to be again? 20 episodes?
Considering the manga is still on halt, this is not enough episodes to keep the manga ahead if after Daima we go straight into the Moro arc, or even a Broly arc.
bro i think dragon ball diama is those three years after the buu saga to Super battle of the gods
2:11 bro you were spot on good shit
Main villains of Daima, my thoughts are:
1. ... The Makaioshin with Gomah, I believe his name is... "Desagu" or something, if someone knows his name please tell me, but he wants a wish and Gomah didn't really want to give him a wish, that seems like it will come back and maybe change him, and he is a cool and layed back and respectful and all of that, but he just seems too nice in my opinion.
2. Neva the Namekian, if he does wish for his youth back and becomes powerful.
3. If it is another enemy, like if Neva or someone else uses Dragon Balls, whether the ones on Earth or in the Demon Realm to wish back Namekains in the Demon Realm and then that introduces Lord Slug as a villain.
I don't know. Tell me what you all think.
Dr Arinsu might end up being a villain as well
When you watch the first episode its shows the sister demon Kai with a lit and dark side unlike the others that are in full light. This is a symbol that she has a dark side and will be our main protagonist. Guaranteed.
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Daima is amazing, for the record. Also, to compare it to super isn’t fair, daima takes place before super anyway
Most likely it’s going over the creation of the dragon balls. Noticing that the demon realm has a set of 3. Back to super, doesn’t cereal have a set of 2? And then we finally get back story to the namekians. It’s an all-around bridging of gaps. And the throwback to dragon ball. (Like a successful throwback) it’s db with vegeta and the rest of the dream team. It’s got a good vibe to it
No matter what the theory it is daima is definitely about giving us lore
I don't know if Daima really matters or not to what I'm about to say, but the rest of the theories here are of interest, especially the Namekians and Yardrats having ties to the demons and the kais. For the most part, I want to focus on the Namekians, since we don't really know much about the Yardrats.
The first interesting note is that it is entirely possible that Namekians are some sort of hybrid race between the demons and the kais, with great potential both for good and evil, and that would explain so many different things about them. We know that when Piccolo and Kami split, one of them took up the title of Demon King while the other became Kami (or else God). We also know that Namekians don't need to eat, though if memory serves I know that in the games they had farms, I can't recall if they did in the show or not, nor if it was ever shown what they were farming and why. More importantly we know that Namekians also have their own version of permanent fusion, something that otherwise only happens when two kais use their potaras. Now this also brings up the possibility that the Metamorans, the ones who taught Goku the fusion dance, might also have some sort of relationship to the divine, since apparently when mortals use the potaras they basically get a free and perfect fusion dance but otherwise it seems to have a lot of the same drawbacks considering things like timelimits and fusion breackdown if too much power is used. So it seems to me that potara fusion is just the perfect outcome of fusion while the dance depends on the perfection of the dancers (and logically mortals cannot achieve true perfection).
I think an obvious tie in is that Goku is more childlike in Super because of this arc in between.
Saiyan great apes have pointed ears too 🤔
Couple things about this video. 1. It's been stated that namekians are from the demon realm directly by degesu the demon supreme Kai.
2. The way they travel between the demon realm and what they call "the outside" makes it seem like that there is only one demon realm, mainly because king gomah and degesu are asked which universe do you want to go to.
That was because the inside of the big fish they went to its a realm between realms so its not connected to one macrocosm. Each macrocosm have their own demon realms. U would know this if u seen the db macrocosm diagram. The demon realm is the opposite of the living universe. Think of the macrocosm as a coin with the tail side being the living universe and the head side the demon realm
It could be getting retconned though.i see what you're saying but nothing is set in stone anymore I'm afraid.
@@fatdurk7934 I know about the whole demon realm is at the bottom of the universe's macrocosm thing, but like everything it can change. We probably won't know for sure for a while but just the way that they're asked it just makes it seem like that there's only one demon realm. Not to mention the whole fact that the demon realm itself is inconsistent across different forms of media, so only time will tell if there's confirmation that there's multiple demon realms or just one.
@@d4c1vtn98 um bro the demon realm being the opposite side of the living universe has been a known thing for 30 years and no nothing has changed idk why ur confused. There isn’t one demon realm. Every macrocosm has their own demon realm like how every human or mortal has their own hell and each planet has their own heaven aka when king yemma is stated to inly be the judge for earths heaven.
I watched the first 4 episodes of daima thinking it would be gt all over again, but I kinda like it? I just hope they wont be kids for long and we get moro and granola
Not sure you can give credit for chapter 103 to Toriyama, unless he's come back as a manga creating ghost (RIP). You probably meant Toyotarou, who took over the manga for most of super.
toriyama did the story for super, it is highly likely toyotaro is still going off of his ideas like berserk's new author follows miura
some people are already saying daima is non cannon because of kibitoshin defusing early lol
DBS does have enought manga? Moro arc, Granola arc, apparently the new Cell arc.
Cell max?
1 arc short from the common 4 arcs of the dragon ball animes
(In classic theres the dragonballs hunt, red ribbon, king piccolo, and 23 budokai sagas,
In z its the saiyans, namek, cell, and boo, sagas,
Gt the hunt for the dragonballs, baby, super 17, and black star dragons, saga,
And super with bog, ressurection f, goku black, and tournament of power,)
Diama was already more interesting than super. Although I really want to see Moro arc and granola arc.
Why do people want so much out of the shows? They don’t need to tie into each other. Just enjoy the shows. They’re all enjoyable in their own right. Dragon ball, Dragon ball z, dragon ball gt, dragon ball super, and dragon ball Diama.
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Goku and vegeta can't possibly meet the u6 saiyans because they are met for the first time in Super. So there is zero chance of them making an appearance.
@@ion_force I didn’t say that they would meet them in daima
Didn't they already say that daimainis a spinoff that is set after Z? If its a spinoff why would it need to connect to super?
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Where did you get this info?
Is this an assumption?
We dont need a 2 year anime, 12 episodes are fine 😮💨
The demon realm has been mostly non-canon up until now
Daima just feels like a waste of time mostly i get its like a place holder but still just feels pointless
It's not a place holder idiot. It's the first true effort for DB since the DBS Broly movie.
I don't understand why everyone keeps bringing up End of Z. Can't anybody think that just for once MAYBE they're going to skip past End of Z or bypass it entirely and make it non-canon? End of Z was made before BoG. Before Super was even a concept. End of Z was an end cap for the END of all Dragon Ball series. And then they made BoG and decided to make Super, continuing on with the series and more than likely past the end cap.
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I loved DBZ as a kid. But as an adult... man DB is just the same old story again and again. It's so lame and boring to me now. Literally the same story retold. I just can't get back into it. I watched Super through the mulitverse battle and thought it was stupid how they randomly buff Roshi to be as powerful as he was. It was so lame, they should have put Buu in instead of Roshi. And the Gohan Beast movie was so mid, giving away free buffs again.
The same can be said about One Piece, but there's so much backstory and plots happening elsewhere and being set up in the future, that it's enough to keep my attention week to week. Even with how horrible each episode is filled in with junk, I still come back for more. The story is so much deeper even though it's the same 'Side characters fight battles and power up to fight the side villains until the final showdown with Luffy and the big boss, for Luffy's big powerup'.
Dude, you're still have an obsession with Dragon Ball Super.
Uh o great ape form has pointy ears
Super is going to run through and after Z, something is going to happen where Goku and Vegeta lose all memory of Gods and all that power
How does them knowing the Gods and having that power conflict with the End of Z?
@@Rain593because you can then tie in GT to end the whole series
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Or... Super goes past the End of Z and we get something brand new.
I think it has already been said that daima is gonna be set after the buu saga and before super, which also happens after the buu saga and nowadays is about to tie in with the end of Z, and probably go a little bit beyond that and then end, right? So why is everyone throwing theories when we already have a timeline? Theories about the plot and how it will end and tie with super? Okay maybe, but just because super is in a hiatusafter toriyama's death and this came out, it doesn't mean that the canon will change even more and get worse and confusing, this is just an add-on,we already had enough changes when super came out and then gave us a different story and a new broly and bardock and went back in time compared to what we saw in the end of Z. The manga will continue and HOPEFULLY end soon and stop the story right there after its original author's death, this is just something in between to do some sort of GT shit, hopefully it won't add plot holes to super and will end fast and without a new transformation, if that happens it has to be in super with whatever happens now that we're gonna go past the end of Z. Otherwise it will be a mess and like i said, the manga should end now that toriyama is gone, everything has an end, it can't go on forever, if they want that they're gonna have to do something like db gt or heroes canon to add alternate stories, or they should just make daima and whatever they do after super non canon (i think it was said that daima is canon although it won't come out in manga form(?) to add to the franchise and make money with non canon stuff because dragon ball will end up being way too long otherwise if they continue it without an end on sight, just like one piece, naruto continueing with boruto and 2 blue vortex.. etc. It has to end on a high note,yes, but it should end
@@carlosarizcun_97 nah its gonna carry on. toriyama even wanted it that way. he told gokus jap voice actress to take care of him... and toyo will keep it going as well. he already said super manga will go on. after super hero movie its basically a few months away from EOZ time. so its coming and will eventually go beyond.
oh and also cant leave a epic cliff hanger like black freeza lurking out there...
something big is gonna happen with that at some point too. theres stuff thats still not finished in the lore.
as well like oob and goku reunite again now after dbs events and all the god ki stuff. broly too with his training.
good things end but it aint dragonballs time yet. even with toriyama gone. rip. and goku hasnt even mastered all the levels of UI yet either. basically until goku reaches the level of angels and has no reason to keep fighting. lol. so until that happens and it being the last canon most powerful form from toriyama it cant end.
I'm sorry until i see otherwise, super is over.
I can see Diama being that catalyst to trump the title “super” and continue with the manga after establishing lore.
@thebatman9628 What are you talking about? The manga for super has been ongoing since the ToP ended. There’s 3/4 entire arcs that haven’t been animated so I’m not sure if hat you’re talking about.
Some people are just not capable of being optimistic.
Why the hell do they always do stupid shit like this to gohans character...like its directly after buu so he should be peak
Because Gohan is only good for azzpulls. If there's any real effort to be put on, then Gohan can't be present or it will ruin his character.
@@oldmanjesus9855 that's stupid...if u want to say beast gohan is an asspull that's fine but every other form was earned... you must have been watching a different show
@@SceraseeMorow mystic gohan was achieved quite literally by Gohan sitting down while old kai was reading p0®n... Earned asl
@@oldmanjesus9855ultimate was foreshadowed from gohans introduction with his potential and atleast we saw it happen on screen ssj3 and ss blue were achieved offscreen and we were only told about them and I'm not downplaying goku ...what I'm saying is saying gohan is studying again is just keeps destroying his character
@@SceraseeMorow off screen doesn't mean azzpull. Sitting around, doing nothing and getting power because "potential" it's quite literally the definition of azzpull... Gohan is the king of azzpulls in dragon ball, that's how his entire character works: minimum effort then suddenly gets enough marie sue powers to overpower anybody around. Azzpull unlocked!
And this guy tried to mention off screen transformation when talking about azzpulls... This is what is wrong with dragon ball fans, big comprehension issues, because half the information is unknown to them at all times.
I’m giving daima a chance
I'm calling it now, Super will go past the end of Z, and they're going to do it via "alternate time line". We already know every time Trunks comes back to interact with the past it creates an alternate time line that starts from that point. It would be insanely easy to set up a new time line that Super can continue into OR set it up so that the end of Z was an alternate time line all along.
There's just too much story left to tell before we get to the end of Z.
maybe because Akira Toriyama died ?
Raise your voice and lower the music
@@ThatFunnyPlace will do thanks for the advice
It dont connect too super..hello already the damia suprem kai situation is different to super the orignal cuntinudity
Learn English
If you read the manga for Moro and Gas, Diama sets up both of those stories
@@anubisgravatate7544 oh it connects to super, in the granolah arc it's hinted at that the namekians aren't from universe 7 but a different realm entirely, and daima answered this hint with namekians are from the demon realm. And the whole supreme Kai thing isn't a retcon they could always just fuse again at the end which is likely going to happen.
@@d4c1vtn98 Well, I think the Shin and Kibito split is more important in getting Daima apart from Super than you think. If this was indeed connecting to Super and goes before the events of Battle of Gods, and they fuse again, then it doesn't make sense that Shin and Kibito use the Namek Dragon Balls to defuse before the Champa tournament when they already know a simpler way to do that by getting inside of Buu, as stated on Daima chapter 1.
@@cloud_strife8 toriyama wrote this and I don't think there's much of a reason for him to just make Daima to be a separate continuity, nor try to reboot super in a way. There's always a couple of reasons to pull from to explain why they wouldn't have Buu separate them again. 1. Buu doesn't like how they taste (stupid reason really but when it comes to Buu, it's likely to happen) or 2. At the time of when they wanted to separate Buu was in one of his long sleep cycles. (Also stupid but also very likely) But we'll just have to wait and see.
dragon ball gt isn't canon because Toriyama had nothing to do with it .. and this is his version of GT..which was never confirmed .. but we know he didn't like that GT shit and said let me do a better version lol
Bro, the manga has NOTHING to do with the anime. This isn't the 90s. They are two different continuities with two different rights owners, which is why you won't be seeing manga exclusive content in
Sparking Zero for the foreseeable future.
They actually had a huge plothole for super about Kaioshin unfusing.
That's pretty laughable that at the beginning of the moro. Ark, everybody was condemning the hell out of it
Saying how terrible arc it was. It was such a copy of the cell games when it wasn't and that moro looked like cell. when he doesn't. In fact, hit in universe 6 has more resemblance and looks to cell than even moro does.
I mean, I personally agree. Moro ark was one of the best ark in dragon ball super and i'm not the biggest fan of dragon ball super
The moro arc is indeed a copy of the cell arc with a little bit of Buu arc thrown in for good measure.
I thought it was a good arc, but then it was followed by my least favorite arc in all of dragonball, the granola arc. Never seen so many random arse pulls in one arc in my life that didn't make sense. Felt so weird going from the banger that was Moro, imo, to granola shenanigans.
@oldmanjesus9855 hey at least he's the true, first villain in dragon ball super. That aint either a God of destruction or A. Reappearance villain, that trash talk everybody too early. Then wines and throws a fit when after he loses and gets his @$$ handed to him.
Uhhhhhhh Cough freiza. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The only villain that was in the termanent of power was goku himself
Because he appointed himself as a villain.
I disagree you . I think they took a lot of the aspects of dragon ball z. And made a true villain and boy after the dragon ball fans seen it for what it was. Moro was truly a favorite villain because they taking concepts and characteristics that made dragon ball z villains so good .
And tested goku's mantle and potential but most of all test the limits of utra instinct of all it's glory.
And brought so much tension, so much fear. So much adrinalyn anticipation of what will happen in the next. It was just such a breath of fresh Air, they finally see a villain as brutal as the z. Villains, and let's be serious. Dragon ball super, their villains are subpar comparison to their z counterparts.
Except Goku black maybe cause he really was pretty good.
But mostly because of these so called censorship..
@@2musicSoundtrackfandom579 I'm not disagreeing that Moro was a great villain and that overall the arc was great, that is absolutely true. I was just pointing out that the moro arc in fact takes a lot of ideas from the cell saga, and the buu saga too, although the buu saga is understandable since they are correlated in some aspects.
Super is non canon fanfiction garbage. Daima is the true continuation of DBZ!!! No bs gods and angels, no goofy super saiyan god forms, just pure OG Super Saiyan.
Eh that's what u think but I gotta agree with u with ssh god stuff cause when u look at it was ssjb really that necessary
I realy wish that was the case
This is so true, in dragon ball super literally all power ceiling is thrown into the trash, like how does CABBA destroy buu???? Also the forms are literally just trash and we deserve to see the core super saiyan forms more used
Why do you care? At least we get new content, I can tell you’re at least 25 or younger because there’s no way an actual adult can be that immature about a cartoon.
@@gamingvirus2488almost as bad as a lonely old fool having a go trying to be edgy on RUclips.
Not another GT 🤦🏻♂️
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@@youessmati3806 lol hate GT
Just because the characters are small again? DBGT was more of a DB Classic 2.0 in the Black Star Saga. For me, DB Daima is DB Classic 3.0. I like DBGT and also DB Daima because it's another classic Dragon Ball that's not just about new forms and showdowns.
@@prinzludwig8052 makes it feel more looney tunes 🤷🏻♂️
They aren’t ‘Nameks.’ They are Nemekians.
I hope you know nameks are another name they call them nameks in the manga I think or sub
@@Kamboragetsu that’s like calling earthlings ‘Earths.’ Still wrong.
@@fritospie7982 it’s not wrong the manga is the original source material so it’s right
@@Kamboragetsu On what authority does the manga have on rewriting the English language? People from Texas are called Texans. People from Florida, Floridians. Mexico, Mexicans. Canada, Canadians. Mars, Martians. Etc Calling someone from a planet called Namek, Nameks is not proper English. They are Namekians regardless of the translators bad knowledge of the English language. Nameks would be referring to multiple planets because it’s the plural form of the planet. Namekians is referring to the people of the singular planet namek.
@@fritospie7982maybe the planet is named after their race
Super is getting the GT treatment and off to non canon
No it’s not lol
I hope so. Have Daima lead into Battle of gods and then make super but actually good
You wish 😂
All I have to say.. 🗑️
Bring in the Sandland crew?
@@CrookedShoeTales it would be cool to see them or a cameo at least