You may notice a small error involving deathtouch and trample in this episode. While technically a player mistake and not a rules mistake, we still apologize. -JLK
Jimmy: Plays a sweet Theros basic. Ashlen: Plays two sweet Theros basics. Josh: Plays an Evolving Wilds to find a sweet Theros Basic. ..... Crim: Plays a Snow-Covered Island. Sounds about right.
Maria Bovallius lol I remember an episode where someone was playing against a mill deck and then one from a single card that was like i do 100 for every card in my graveyard!
Seems to me like there was a line where Josh could've milled Jimmy out with this very Altar after finishing Crim, pumping his plant tokens with Avenger+landfall enablers. Probably should've kept these extra fetchlands, Farseek & co instead of pitching them to hand size
@@bisonsama321 didn't need to keep the extra landfall trigger enablers. The tokens plus Zendakra plus anything else would of got there. But yeah Josh could have won in the same way Jimmy did.
@@abhikan7654 he attempted to, but before he could Jimmy exiled his entire grave, and since the way Commander works, Josh placed it back in the command zone and had a Commander Tax of 9
Josh: *casts cyclonic rift* “Time to start making the moves to close out the game.” Me: *sees there are forty minutes left in the video* “so that was a lie”
@Dekatrea Had that happen to me too once, except I was the first to die after the first three. Had to sit and wait in hope that there would be another game that would never happen :D
@@anttilappalainen6636 me too I own a lot of the precons so we like to match up each years precons but since I've been playing the longest they all target me because I "know too much" I try to remind them that the decks are about equal but nope I get destroyed and get to watch and advise
Crim was secretly absolutely critical to this game. He was never really threatening, but he had a few key plays that absolutely swept the legs from under Josh. Best support build 10/10
I'm not gonna lie, about halfway through this episode I got the feeling of "Oh, not another Josh Lee Kwai roflstomp win" Thank you Jimmy. You may not have been the hero we wanted, but you were definitely the hero we needed.
Same. Was getting annoyed with the seemingly inevitable Josh steamroll (since he’d been up basically all game), but was happy with how things ended up.
I was screaming at Josh when he didn't plasm capture the Saheeli. Screaming. He also could have sacced the Xenagos in response to the Mirage Mirror (Xenagos, Henge, Avenger, and Zendikar Resurgent is 7 devotion) and avoided the whole thing
Uro/King Crimson: - draws cards: Epitaph premonitions - moves within skipped time: extra land almost like extra turn, but avoiding his fate (self sacrifice) with Crystal Shard/time skips Only one turn/one moment until victory - 1:10:45 “Yatta! I’ve won!” - Suddenly, -Goblin Engineer- Goblin Experience Requiem pulls out the piano. 1:13:20 = “This is Requiem.” He strikes Josh with Dementia, forcing him to forever relive his moment of victory 1:14:20 yet never reach it - drawing a card:)
So Josh is Diavoloand Uro is king crimson, Jimmy is Giorno, Crim is Buciaratti. Crim dies so Jimmy can use his powers to get mirage mirror (stand arrow), then uses Nahiri (golden experience) to get another one, so he can make Xenagos and altar of dementia (golden experience requiem). sounds about right.
WOW what an immensely satisfying conclusion. I often feel like 90% of episodes are "Josh Lee Kwai Shenanigans vs Everyone Panicking And Doing Inferior Shenanigans" but DAMN Jimmy! Well played!!
@@monarchgupta2712 it's honestly kind of irritating that he's such a good brewer AND without a doubt mid way through, when he's on the ropes, he manages to make some lifesaving deal that ends up winning him the game!
The quality of the editing on this video... **Chef's Kiss** Too many details to call out specifically, but I have to mention that the montage of Josh drawing and self-milling, mixed with Jimmy saying he'd never mill out, had me laughing SO HARD. The editing is always great, but somehow, your team stepped things up several notches for this one. Thanks to all involved!
@mikhar: Yeah, the Mirage Mirror stuff was also beautifully done. I've never played with the card myself and for the first few times, I had no idea what was ACTUALLY supposed to be visible in the mirror!
I remember once berely having 50+ life and trying to oneshot a friend with an aetherflux reservoir. Another friend of mine redirected the target so I ended up paying 50 to blast myself in the face. I know that feeling, RIP Ashlen 24:32
Even at the start of the ep, I was like "Uh-oh, they let Josh, God of Value Engines, play UG?" And it played out like I thought it would... ...but that ending. Easily the most epic win of this series to date.
I agree super epic, but what about jimmy playing hogaak and swinging with a full board casually saying "math is for blockers" and then dying to an onslaught of bears?
@@perrycarters3113 yeah, thought the same, I knew it was going to end like this. There was to much value in cards draw and all that mill was really usefull only twice I think. And even when escaping Uro, he draws a card and play a land, value with no real Win-Con and a big downside attached to it. My question was "Who's going to be able to use it against him?" but also "does he has Oracle of Thassa in his hand?"
45:08 Josh is completely right here. if you know someone has Cyclonic rift or a counterspell in their hand, force them to use it. this is why, I always agressively attack the person that has answers in their hand that I know about. they think that if they say "I wouldn' attack me, I have cyclonic rit in my hand", I will attack someone else, no, I will attack you and force you to use it, because every time I don't, it's like one extra use of it you get for free.
Yeah I liked that he casually dropped that little morsel of information. So many times people play too carefully around someone with big counters. Gotta start just kamikaze-ing them asap so they dont keep increasing value each turn
@@Unforgiven11 Yep, as a Talrand player that's true. If my opponents start coming at me without fear of counterspells and bounces, eventually my juice will run out and they "win by exhaustion" before I am able to really lock down the table for good. So yes, going with no fear is the best option when you know the control player has something in his hand, instead of avoiding it allowing just for the control player to keep stacking more control in his hand, while controling without doing anything just by people avoiding him.
Yup, the best strategy to adopt in these cases is "don't negotiate with terrorists." My Ur-Dragon deck is especially good at this; every creature is such a powerful threat that no amount of counterspells will ever be enough to hold it down for long.
I think it's just that Jimmy and Crim didn't really have anything at that point. So it was Ashlen trying to deal with Josh by herself and getting overwhelmed by Josh's great start (the amount of card and mana pool advantage was a bit insane).
Not only was the general narrative in this episode amazing but I love that the guy with the Icarus inspired magic card as his commander won by punishing his opponent for flying too close to the sun.
One of the best endings to a game I've ever seen. An out-of-nowhere, Yami-Yugi play that nobody sees coming, ripping the rug out from under the archenemy on the last possible turn! An underdog play for the ages! You could not fabricate a better play for television. Congrats Jimmy, you earned the win.
Add to that the fact that Jimmy used Purphoros (god he loves), Metalworker (a card he won an early episode with), Mirage Mirror (has Neheb, the cursed commander on the art), Altar of Dementia (strong contributor to his Hogaak performance) and kind of pulled off what Graham did to him, and it definitely feels like an anime ending - it all came together. That, and he never cast a blue card in that final turn; only red!
Josh with an altar of dementia on the board and 33 cards left in his library: "I can't think of an artifact that could kill me right now" Mindslaver: "Am I a joke to you?"
I’ve watched this episode somewhere in the realm of ten times since it came out. That cut when Josh realizes that Altar of Dementia will kill him is still probably the best editing masterpiece the command zone has ever done.
Such a cop out. "I'm not giving my opponent credit for beating me, I'm considering this a victory and the only reason I lost is because of what I did, nothing to do with my opponent" is the general translation of that. What a dick move.
@@mamasboii9437 actually he's right. He overmilled himself, and was drawing three for each creature cast even on a full hand. Jimmy and crim pulled a nice sequence of plays at the end, but Josh only lost because of his greed. And also because of a simple deckbuilding mistake, a single copy of og ulamog or kozilek would make his engines run forever and be inmune to mill. In a deck that actively wants to draw a ton of cards and mill itself, it seems a decent backup.
Yeah you know what- not worth it to me. I'd rather see twice as many game knights episodes with half as much work put into animations/editing. That's just me though.
@@jdubbleyou the whole game knights episodes are only running once a month regardless of their editing due to other things like getting guests on the show every episode so they wouldn't make it more than once a month anyway.
Right up there with Bearforce One winning. Overpowered deck is roflstomping against relatively fairer decks, but one rises up and crushes the tyrant. Well done, Jimmy.
@@redstonepro5412 i mean is a turn three on games nights good content. Like spike feeders are a thing. You can watch cedh but have chosen not to by clicking the video. It wouldn't be fun to watch Josh just stomp the guests on turn 4. The branding of this show doesnt really facilitate that.
@@redstonepro5412 I mean you say "less interaction spells", and looking at his decklist, I would say that it has less than normal JLK levels... but are you forgetting that he consistently interacted with the board in a 1vs3 situation?? Seems like the deck has less interaction because he can consistently draw into it AND replay it.
Mirage Mirror is my favorite card in commander hands down, versatile, can dodge removal, and can do some buuuusted stuff. I love it. My playgroups not so much.
Misplay when jimmy attacked w/ wurmcoil an embercleave. Josh shouldve taken more because trample states that the creature will deal enough to kill the blocker then the rest to defending player. However because of deathtouch 1 damage is enough to kill so therefore wurmcoil always deals 13 damage total to players if blocked by 1 creature
@@daviddeveymestdagh303 Totally agree. Other cards at least are a bit more fair. Evacuation it's all creatures. Upheaval is a sorcery, same as Washout, and mostly all the others. Cyclonic Rift is the only card with an instant one sided effect. Pretty rough.
@@timothybuehler1823 But it returns ALL lands. Also, it's a totally different effect. Just lands, even when land destruction is pretty much "banned" in most playgroups, is not totally awful. However that's a card I would never play just because it's not really fun for the board.
Shout out to the Mirage Mirror animation. Giving some well deserved love to the most dynamic artifact around. ALSO shout out to that double activation play by Josh. That was the zestiest thing that I've seen in awhile.
Having recently gotten back into MTG after about a 10 year hiatus, and watching some pro tour coverage, this was 100x more entertaining than watching pro's constantly shuffle the cards in their hands. Sub'd!
Never thought having a game knights drop at the end of what seemed like a pretty bad day for me would brighten it up so much and I haven't even watched it yet Thanks so much guys !!
Everyone else- "We're playing Gods and titans, massive threats with powerful abilities that are hard to to kill." Jimmy- "I'm gonna play the fish guy who makes neat stuff!" XD
She died bc she was the only one who could single handedly end Josh. Jimmy and Crim needed to work together to beat him, but Ashlen could have ended Josh by herself.
That is exactly why I always hated playing games with more than two players. Inevitably, if you are the best player you will be ganged up on. It pays to be middle of the road here.
"Shut the doors, close the windows, we are in a house, a cyclone came... The metaphor is just great." This gotta be one of THE best quotes from Gameknights for me this far.
38:08 Josh: "This is where we can finally start making the moves that will close out the game..." *looks at time left, another 40 minutes left in the game* Good luck Josh...
I literally had my tears when Jimmy got this, good game guys! Note to self : Always bring some eldrazi titans to shuffle the graveyard into the library
Well... Just to play devils advocate. His deck wants to mill himself, he wants things in his graveyard. If he mills an Eldrazi he loses his discard pile to his library. This is counter intuitive to what the deck is trying to do.
@@papacalypse154 Not quite. Any deck that has a bulk strategy of drawing/self milling a ton of cards should have an escape route should that plan go south. Anything from an eldrazi, to Gaea's Blessing to even a Jace, Wielder of Mysteries or Laboratory Maniac. Honestly, while Josh talked a lot about using the escape mechanic and needing to feed that, IT WAS BARELY USED. He ended up feeding a beast that cost him the win. Long story short... there is always room in your draw a bazillion plan for Kozileck.
31:40 Minor rules mistake: "If a face-down permanent moves from the battlefield to any other zone, its owner must reveal it to all players as they move it." (CR 707.9)
No judge or anything here, but i thought that rule was intended for the metamorphosis cards, in order to avoid people playing things as metamorphosis when they really are not. This case being a manifested card, and not a metamorphosis, i see no point for the rule to also be applied. Although if the wording is literally the one you said, it does apply even if it made no sense. My question is, is there a reason for manifested cards to also be revealed that i am missing? Or is it just that the wording of the rule happens to include them?
@@iTiago98 Keeping track of which face-down cards are morphs and which are manifests can get difficult on a crowded board (especially if you don't have access to the morph/manifest overlay tokens), so it's easier to just apply the same rules to all of them.
Also am I missing something here? At 1:02:53 Josh uses "one green floating" and adds 2 blue(taps one island because of zen resurgent) to cast a 3 cmc fade into antiquity... then immediately afterwards at 1:03:15 he says "i still have the one floating, so I'll add..." Did he not just use all of his floating mana? Edit: then he conveniently has 4 untapped mana for his counterspell... seems a little fishy
@@bongsesh from a quick review, it seems like he did miss misscount that floating green, but has no real impact because then he adds 6 to his manapool for a 5 mana mulldrifter. It is still kind of sketchy, because he attacked in between, but I don't think that was much of a slip, he had the mana for everything, even for the counterspell. To be fair, zen resurgence is a messy card, I always lose count when I have it on the battlefield xD
The foreshadowing in the second half is so perfect 😂😂😂 just the subtle looks at Josh’s deck, the “I don’t want to mill out sooo” it’s practically cinema
I've been spoiled by this show, it makes so easy to follow what happens in the game. Easier even than when I play commander with my friend. Great Show, great content!
Commander's Quarters treats cards over 5 bucks like they're the worst cards to ever be printed. Yes cyc rift is a problem but maybe just ban it and forget about restrictions. Why hate on cards because of price?
@@Silverhand264 he also doesn't hate on cards because of price, he's legit just a budget deck builder. I don't know about his newer decks, but I at least know he used to put more expensive upgrades in ending or in an additional video. He is honestly super respectful of every card and the format itself, and it'd be awesome to see one of his personal decks played against these guys.
kind funny josh didn't seem worried when jimmy kept asking how many cards in deck. i would of been thinking ," does jimmy have a way to mill me at some point?
firstly, have*. Secondly, I don't believe he was asking with the intent of milling him, he simply wanted to know. He didn't think to mill him until the end of it.
Y’all need Mitch from the Commander’s Quarters on here one of these days! To destroy you with the power of BUDGET WIZARDRY. Y’all are just scared of his deckbuilding prowess you know he’d win.
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You may notice a small error involving deathtouch and trample in this episode. While technically a player mistake and not a rules mistake, we still apologize. -JLK
No problem!
It's fine every player makes mistakes can't wait for the next episode 😁
Well nobody's perfect Josh. We are all human and we all make mistakes, But you still rock anyway JLK!
ive been waiting for so long for this episode! BTW don't worry about it Josh
WE STILL LOVE YOU SO DAMN MUCH!!!
HUG U ❤️
Jimmy: Plays a sweet Theros basic.
Ashlen: Plays two sweet Theros basics.
Josh: Plays an Evolving Wilds to find a sweet Theros Basic.
.....
Crim: Plays a Snow-Covered Island.
Sounds about right.
#pauperpower
MTG Muddstah I traded all my theros basic lands from two booster boxes for snow covered lands. Pokémon energy cards aren’t for me.
@@CR-kr9cs That's fair. I've heard other have similar feelings on it. I just like to poke fun at Crim though :)
Nly if crim plays a mismatched basic after this
The real question is did he also bring counterbalance?
Man, that was like a duel from Yugioh where the good guy wins on the last turn by turning the villain's own strategy against him.
EXODIA, OBLITERATE
Wasn't there an episode of Yugioh where basically this exact thing happens?
Eminem: I'll slice you like a Ginsu, Anything you say(play) can and will be used against you!
Woolytop AN episode?
Maria Bovallius lol I remember an episode where someone was playing against a mill deck and then one from a single card that was like i do 100 for every card in my graveyard!
Ashlen: plays a card,
Josh: that's a cool card let me get one of those
Narset's reversal is far too powerful.
@@joehadari7315 it does make for some pretty funny scenarios
The great thing is that Jimmy won by doing the same thing that Josh was doing, copying permanents
Josh: *nearly mills himself out*
Jimmy: "I'm about to do what's called a pro gamer move"
Seems to me like there was a line where Josh could've milled Jimmy out with this very Altar after finishing Crim, pumping his plant tokens with Avenger+landfall enablers. Probably should've kept these extra fetchlands, Farseek & co instead of pitching them to hand size
Lol😂
He's going to restart the client ?
Shawn Goswami hyhyhhbhbjbjbjbjbjbj
@@bisonsama321 didn't need to keep the extra landfall trigger enablers. The tokens plus Zendakra plus anything else would of got there. But yeah Josh could have won in the same way Jimmy did.
What made it the best, Josh was winning by stealing everyone's card effects, and he lost by Jimmy stealing his card's effects.
Poetic Justice
01:14:37
The long con
Josh was winning because he kept not exiling cards every time he used Eros' escape mechanic like he was supposed to.
@@Jaqen-HGhar he was doing funky stuff so he didn't have to... No 'supposed to' involved
@@Jaqen-HGhar I think he never actualy cast Uro for escape. He just cast it from the command zone.
@@abhikan7654 he attempted to, but before he could Jimmy exiled his entire grave, and since the way Commander works, Josh placed it back in the command zone and had a Commander Tax of 9
It's so fitting that this ended like a Greek tragedy, Josh losing to his hubris. Definitely one of the all-time best Game Knights!
Hm damn this spoilered me :(
@@MrOceansEleven basic youtube rule. never ever read the comments before watching the video.
Drew too close to the sun
One and only lie in Jimmy's life:
"No way you're dying to milling Josh"
01:14:37
The long con
It was a set up for the long con
To be honest i thought that Jimmy kills Josh with that one thopter, until he got this altar of dementia :p
The truth is, the game was rigged from the start.
@@dmgengar I really thought Jimmy was gonna win with Commander damage. Dalakos with an Embercleave is no joke.
Josh: *casts cyclonic rift* “Time to start making the moves to close out the game.”
Me: *sees there are forty minutes left in the video* “so that was a lie”
They also state it outright, einstein. What would we do without you.
@Dekatrea Had that happen to me too once, except I was the first to die after the first three. Had to sit and wait in hope that there would be another game that would never happen :D
@@anttilappalainen6636 me too I own a lot of the precons so we like to match up each years precons but since I've been playing the longest they all target me because I "know too much" I try to remind them that the decks are about equal but nope I get destroyed and get to watch and advise
Crim was secretly absolutely critical to this game. He was never really threatening, but he had a few key plays that absolutely swept the legs from under Josh. Best support build 10/10
I was really rooting for Crim to start drawing lands but he kept drawing colorless lands that was painful to watch.
@@vanthadoun1 Well, Crim got a support win by helping to divert Josh’s attention, allowing Jimmy to take down josh
Jimmy: “It’s not funny, no one is laughing.”
Josh:🤣
I paused cause I was laughing so hard and said "its just like Hermit Druid!" Then it got refrenced which made me laugh a little more
I loved that part.
He should change his name to Jimmy Whiff.
They should of done the laugh in slow motion
directive for 8 gets a 0 cmc artifact Lols poor jimmy
when jimmy hit the tormod's crypt, we all felt that
But it was useful
Why tf is new purphoros in that deck instead of another artifact?
Deathkeeper the new purphoros cheats out artifacts
“I just paid 11 mana and tapped out…for a Tormod’s Crypt” had me laughing so hard. Jimmy’s fails are always the funniest
"it's not funny. no one's laughing."
josh: "AHAHAHAHAH"
I'm not gonna lie, about halfway through this episode I got the feeling of "Oh, not another Josh Lee Kwai roflstomp win"
Thank you Jimmy. You may not have been the hero we wanted, but you were definitely the hero we needed.
What are you saying? I wish there were more wins by mill out there
Idk, I love a good underdog victory and in this game the powerhouse died first and the ultimate threat of the game was vanquished in the best of ways.
Same. Was getting annoyed with the seemingly inevitable Josh steamroll (since he’d been up basically all game), but was happy with how things ended up.
He was the Asian avenger this time!
I was screaming at Josh when he didn't plasm capture the Saheeli. Screaming.
He also could have sacced the Xenagos in response to the Mirage Mirror (Xenagos, Henge, Avenger, and Zendikar Resurgent is 7 devotion) and avoided the whole thing
Josh “flew too close to the sun”. Truly a fitting end for a theros themed game.
Icarus?
Cherry Blossom yeah. Theros is supposed to be based on Greek mythology.
I think you flew a little too close to that allegory
Wow this litterly just happened to my friend he drew much cards throughout the game got greedy and died from it classic.
Careful, Icarus
This was one of the most phenomenal comebacks I have ever seen, not just in magic but ever
I know it gives me chills just thinking about it
These are the kind of games that make people love magic even more.
Hell ya
JLK blew a 28-3 lead
Ik right. It's still not as crazy as when my so called friend Will was playing the gideon archenemy deck, and he was teaming up with nicol bolas.
Jimmy: *taps out and plays potentially threatening spell*
Lords of Chaos: can't let him have good plays.
That hurt. Lost a purphoros, dockside, and that intervention. Feels bad
@@kingmric I found it extremely entertaining
On the up side it churned through his deck
Jimmy doing Jimmy things. Whenever he taps some Mountain, hilarity ensues. I really like him for that. =)
not so much lords of chaos as he still doesn't understand how to build commander decks
Josh: *Counters Purphoros
Josh right afterwards: "Why do I hear Giorno's theme?"
I, Jimmy Wong, have a dream
Uro/King Crimson:
- draws cards: Epitaph premonitions
- moves within skipped time: extra land almost like extra turn, but avoiding his fate (self sacrifice) with Crystal Shard/time skips
Only one turn/one moment until victory - 1:10:45 “Yatta! I’ve won!”
- Suddenly, -Goblin Engineer- Goblin Experience Requiem pulls out the piano.
1:13:20 = “This is Requiem.”
He strikes Josh with Dementia, forcing him to forever relive his moment of victory 1:14:20 yet never reach it - drawing a card:)
So Josh is Diavoloand Uro is king crimson, Jimmy is Giorno, Crim is Buciaratti. Crim dies so Jimmy can use his powers to get mirage mirror (stand arrow), then uses Nahiri (golden experience) to get another one, so he can make Xenagos and altar of dementia (golden experience requiem). sounds about right.
That’s even better for requiem! Josh’s Simic-mafia empire has fallen (I’d love to see a Simic mafia, would that just be Sultai though?)
Ashlyn is definitely 100% Polpo, had her own banana (Xenegos) turn against shoot her down
"alright, let's do this."
"alright, let's play."
"lets clash"
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I hate that ad lol, the game sucks!!!
It’s so annoying
Shut up that happened to me
And it’s still happening 😡
"Time to make the moves that close out the game..."
*Sees over an hour still left in the video*
Seems legit
Press X to doubt
What a crazy ending. There's some lesson here about Theros, Greece and the concept of Hubris.
Sorry, what's that last thing? I don't speak spanish :-P
S V maybe it wasn’t supposed to be, but (at least to me) it was a reference to a LRR sketch. It was also about Theros(but original Theros)
Josh displaying hubris and arrogance, to the surprise of literally no one.
@@apple2awesome697 The Oracle of Theros. Yes. You are a man of culture.
Josh thought himself a hare away from victory
But Jimmy, though slow going, made it out from the jaws of defeat.
WOW what an immensely satisfying conclusion. I often feel like 90% of episodes are "Josh Lee Kwai Shenanigans vs Everyone Panicking And Doing Inferior Shenanigans" but DAMN Jimmy! Well played!!
I think the real moral of this episode is that tribal is really hard to pull off nowadays. At least the more obscure tribal.
Josh is too good with the value building of his decks.
@@monarchgupta2712 it's honestly kind of irritating that he's such a good brewer AND without a doubt mid way through, when he's on the ropes, he manages to make some lifesaving deal that ends up winning him the game!
More like everyone vs. Cassius Marsh and his shenanigans I feel
The quality of the editing on this video... **Chef's Kiss** Too many details to call out specifically, but I have to mention that the montage of Josh drawing and self-milling, mixed with Jimmy saying he'd never mill out, had me laughing SO HARD. The editing is always great, but somehow, your team stepped things up several notches for this one. Thanks to all involved!
That montage was truly awesome.
The editing I noticed was the Mirage Mirror activation effects. Great stuff.
like the end of Usual Suspects. so good. made it seem like Jimmy knew how he was going to win all along :D
@mikhar: Yeah, the Mirage Mirror stuff was also beautifully done. I've never played with the card myself and for the first few times, I had no idea what was ACTUALLY supposed to be visible in the mirror!
I laughed so hard!
Josh "I am inevitable."
Jimmy "and I am Iron Man" snaps fingers
Even sorta works given their commanders. Big, strong, seemingly-omnipotent alien being, vs Mr Engineer whose primary strategy is suiting up.
I remember once berely having 50+ life and trying to oneshot a friend with an aetherflux reservoir. Another friend of mine redirected the target so I ended up paying 50 to blast myself in the face.
I know that feeling, RIP Ashlen 24:32
Pablo Yepes Barrera buddy, narsets reversal doesn’t work on activated abilities
@@legoawsomeness He didn't say they used that spell. He said they redirected the damage. Narset's reversal is irrelevant to Pablo's point.
oof
It's funny that you still call him a friend
@@kingofbudokai you’re such a narsesist
Even at the start of the ep, I was like "Uh-oh, they let Josh, God of Value Engines, play UG?" And it played out like I thought it would...
...but that ending. Easily the most epic win of this series to date.
I'll be honest, once he started milling himself I was like "That's probably a mistake unless you're planning to Escape Uro several times."
I agree super epic, but what about jimmy playing hogaak and swinging with a full board casually saying "math is for blockers" and then dying to an onslaught of bears?
@@dylanjohnson6481 Yeah, couldn't stop laughing at that one. I made an Ayula deck because of the episode
Damn i gotta stop reading comments before the video. I dont even wanna watch anymore lol
@@perrycarters3113 yeah, thought the same, I knew it was going to end like this. There was to much value in cards draw and all that mill was really usefull only twice I think. And even when escaping Uro, he draws a card and play a land, value with no real Win-Con and a big downside attached to it.
My question was "Who's going to be able to use it against him?" but also "does he has Oracle of Thassa in his hand?"
45:08 Josh is completely right here. if you know someone has Cyclonic rift or a counterspell in their hand, force them to use it. this is why, I always agressively attack the person that has answers in their hand that I know about. they think that if they say "I wouldn' attack me, I have cyclonic rit in my hand", I will attack someone else, no, I will attack you and force you to use it, because every time I don't, it's like one extra use of it you get for free.
Yeah I liked that he casually dropped that little morsel of information. So many times people play too carefully around someone with big counters. Gotta start just kamikaze-ing them asap so they dont keep increasing value each turn
@@Unforgiven11 Yep, as a Talrand player that's true. If my opponents start coming at me without fear of counterspells and bounces, eventually my juice will run out and they "win by exhaustion" before I am able to really lock down the table for good. So yes, going with no fear is the best option when you know the control player has something in his hand, instead of avoiding it allowing just for the control player to keep stacking more control in his hand, while controling without doing anything just by people avoiding him.
Yup, the best strategy to adopt in these cases is "don't negotiate with terrorists." My Ur-Dragon deck is especially good at this; every creature is such a powerful threat that no amount of counterspells will ever be enough to hold it down for long.
I think it's just that Jimmy and Crim didn't really have anything at that point. So it was Ashlen trying to deal with Josh by herself and getting overwhelmed by Josh's great start (the amount of card and mana pool advantage was a bit insane).
I agree with you!
Not only was the general narrative in this episode amazing but I love that the guy with the Icarus inspired magic card as his commander won by punishing his opponent for flying too close to the sun.
One of the best endings to a game I've ever seen. An out-of-nowhere, Yami-Yugi play that nobody sees coming, ripping the rug out from under the archenemy on the last possible turn! An underdog play for the ages! You could not fabricate a better play for television. Congrats Jimmy, you earned the win.
this comeback win is second only to the bears.
Add to that the fact that Jimmy used Purphoros (god he loves), Metalworker (a card he won an early episode with), Mirage Mirror (has Neheb, the cursed commander on the art), Altar of Dementia (strong contributor to his Hogaak performance) and kind of pulled off what Graham did to him, and it definitely feels like an anime ending - it all came together. That, and he never cast a blue card in that final turn; only red!
Oh, and Purphoros helped him win the Numot/Gaby Spartz episode too
Josh with an altar of dementia on the board and 33 cards left in his library: "I can't think of an artifact that could kill me right now"
Mindslaver: "Am I a joke to you?"
thats exactly what I was thinking
😂😂
I’ve watched this episode somewhere in the realm of ten times since it came out. That cut when Josh realizes that Altar of Dementia will kill him is still probably the best editing masterpiece the command zone has ever done.
"He died the way he wanted, drawing cards" - JLK. What a quote
He went out with a smile too!
Such a cop out. "I'm not giving my opponent credit for beating me, I'm considering this a victory and the only reason I lost is because of what I did, nothing to do with my opponent" is the general translation of that. What a dick move.
@Xicor
Oooooooohhh, "kid", we got a Shakespearean poet over here!
@@mamasboii9437 actually he's right. He overmilled himself, and was drawing three for each creature cast even on a full hand. Jimmy and crim pulled a nice sequence of plays at the end, but Josh only lost because of his greed. And also because of a simple deckbuilding mistake, a single copy of og ulamog or kozilek would make his engines run forever and be inmune to mill. In a deck that actively wants to draw a ton of cards and mill itself, it seems a decent backup.
@Frank Martinez
Jesus Christ you're either an uneducated foreigner or a child with that level of vocabulary. Get schooled, kid.
can we just appreciate the animations, that happens when a commander enters the battlefield
A User agreed, the thassa animation was amazing
Just the whole production value in these videos are the best of any magic channel I've seen :)
Mirage mirror has such a great animation! All that work for about 3 seconds
Yeah you know what- not worth it to me. I'd rather see twice as many game knights episodes with half as much work put into animations/editing. That's just me though.
@@jdubbleyou the whole game knights episodes are only running once a month regardless of their editing due to other things like getting guests on the show every episode so they wouldn't make it more than once a month anyway.
The Eldrazi queen at the end with the petty "No Kozilek?" was so good 🤣🤣 Love Ashlen!
When Jimmy whiffed with the Saheeli's directive and Josh said "that was Hermit Druid-esque" I felt that
only ogs remember that lol
Mmmm Bear Force
F o r e s t
"How bad could a single Hermit Druid activation actually be?"
It felt pretty bad for Jimmy
“I block with my face.” Classic Crim.
Crim missing land drops. Classic Crim.
The missing land part is even more Crim-esque. XD
I am totally using that in my next MTG match
Dousing dagger played by Jimmy must have reminded Crim of Richard in that moment 🤣🤣 really hope Tomer and Crim or Richard and Seth come on sometime 😁
I loved Jimmy's "you know what 1+1+your life total is..." Moment
Fun tidbit: In Mirage Mirror's animation, Embercleave shows up for a split second to foreshadow it's entrance
edit: Master of Waves, too!
Doesn't it show all the cards in the field it could be? It was super amazing!!
ashlin: board wipe
josh: no you
Instead of no u, you could say uno!
Discarded evacuation early into they game.
"A second Mirage Mirror... What could he target with that? I'm looking around my board..."
That glance that Josh throws at the camera is priceless
Ashlen: is undefeated
Josh: “if you can’t beat ‘em, BE THEM”
😄
👍👍👍
Ashlen: I cast Xenagos, God of revels
Kylothis: wait that's illegal
Klothys: This pantheon ain't allowed to have us both, including this game!
Jimmy: Next you’ll say, “What artifact could he copy to win?”
Josh: What artifact could he copy to win?... NANI!?
*Overdrive blasts*
Right up there with Bearforce One winning.
Overpowered deck is roflstomping against relatively fairer decks, but one rises up and crushes the tyrant.
Well done, Jimmy.
bearforce one was epic haha!
Nice name.
Litterally only the Bear deck was fair in that one game
Me: Oh I definitely know who's going to win now.
*Sees how much time is left of the video*
Or do I...?
Effectivly he won on turn 3, the loss was just misplay amd/or bad deckbuilding
@@redstonepro5412 is it bad deckbuilding, in your opinion, if you don't always build decks to be the strongest deck possible?
@@ubermusli nope, bad deckbuilding is if you play way to less interactionspells for no reason
@@redstonepro5412 i mean is a turn three on games nights good content. Like spike feeders are a thing. You can watch cedh but have chosen not to by clicking the video. It wouldn't be fun to watch Josh just stomp the guests on turn 4. The branding of this show doesnt really facilitate that.
@@redstonepro5412 I mean you say "less interaction spells", and looking at his decklist, I would say that it has less than normal JLK levels... but are you forgetting that he consistently interacted with the board in a 1vs3 situation?? Seems like the deck has less interaction because he can consistently draw into it AND replay it.
Josh: "Now we see the power of Xenagos and Selvala"
Me: "You mean Ashlen's cards right?"
Ashlen plays Pyrohemia
Jimmy: “Beautiful.”
That final sequence - beautiful. Utterly beautiful. Out of nowhere, crazy sequence, that Mirage Mirror... oooh, that's some damn good Magic.
Draws Tormod's Crypt from eleven mana: no ones laughing
Josh: *(windows 10 noises)*
Game Knights: We're having a Theros Beyond Death epidsode!!
Also Game Knights: *discards all the god cards*
They want to make actually interesting TV
@@OhNoTheFace Only having one blue deck with any kind of stack interaction definitely detracts from the interesting factor.
That's because they suck.
Yes, I would much prefer zero blue decks with stack interaction.
@@fidly4 Okay, potato.
I watched this when Theros first launched. It hits differently after losing to Uro infinitely many times on arena
The mirage mirror was the best card played today. Hands down.
Having just learned that this card exists, I am now in love with it
Cyclonic Rift
Josh could play better and turn Mirage Mirror to Zendikar Resurgence and fload more mana in the meantime.
And I found one yesterday in an hour of devastation pack😆 it will be perfect for my upcoming Thassa's commander deck
Mirage Mirror is my favorite card in commander hands down, versatile, can dodge removal, and can do some buuuusted stuff. I love it.
My playgroups not so much.
Misplay when jimmy attacked w/ wurmcoil an embercleave. Josh shouldve taken more because trample states that the creature will deal enough to kill the blocker then the rest to defending player. However because of deathtouch 1 damage is enough to kill so therefore wurmcoil always deals 13 damage total to players if blocked by 1 creature
Is that true? :0
@@lukeskywalker4700 yep, deathtouch + trample is disgusting.
@@michaeldaigle7818 Noted
Neat, thanks!
Jimmy: "It's not funny. Nobody's laughting"
JLK: "AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
Josh: *has a big board state*
Ashlen: I'm about to end this man's whole career
Josh *plays Narset's Reversal* no u
Best line in the video: “If you to have been affected by Cyclonic Rift, be sure to call 1-800-why isn’t that card banned?” 😂I want that shirt!😂
However, double Cyclonic Rift and then lose xD
Yeah, that's a super fun card /s
@@daviddeveymestdagh303 Totally agree. Other cards at least are a bit more fair. Evacuation it's all creatures. Upheaval is a sorcery, same as Washout, and mostly all the others. Cyclonic Rift is the only card with an instant one sided effect. Pretty rough.
Sunder returns all lands at Instant speed.
@@timothybuehler1823 But it returns ALL lands. Also, it's a totally different effect. Just lands, even when land destruction is pretty much "banned" in most playgroups, is not totally awful. However that's a card I would never play just because it's not really fun for the board.
Wow, I didn't expect this show to be this rookie-friendly. Quite educative indeed, and equally entertaining.
JLK: NotLikeThis
Me screaming at the Screen: YES LIKE THIS YES DO IT JIMMY PLEASE
🤣🤣🤣
Palpatine laughing
Dew it
Kiwi whispering in Jimmy's ear: Kill him. Kill him now
@@seasnek7024 omg lol
Shout out to the Mirage Mirror animation. Giving some well deserved love to the most dynamic artifact around. ALSO shout out to that double activation play by Josh. That was the zestiest thing that I've seen in awhile.
Having recently gotten back into MTG after about a 10 year hiatus, and watching some pro tour coverage, this was 100x more entertaining than watching pro's constantly shuffle the cards in their hands. Sub'd!
"No one's laughing"
Everyone: oh nooo..
Josh: hehehehehe
Karma got him, tho. :D
I uh i was laughing i thought it was pretty funny......Sorry
Never thought having a game knights drop at the end of what seemed like a pretty bad day for me would brighten it up so much and I haven't even watched it yet
Thanks so much guys !!
Glad we could provide a little pick-me-up! Hope the rest of your day goes better.
Everyone else- "We're playing Gods and titans, massive threats with powerful abilities that are hard to to kill."
Jimmy- "I'm gonna play the fish guy who makes neat stuff!" XD
"And that's all I can do"
-JLK after doing literally everything
Except sacrificing his Xenagos :P
Josh kills Ash with her stuff...
Jimmy kills Josh with Ash's stuff
Xenegos OP
It sure would be cool if people just played their actual decks
That cocky look on ashlyn's face when Josh was counting his cards left and she said 14 before him was pure gold I love her so much
Jimmy, after hitting the Tormod's Crypt: "It's not funny. No-one's laughing."
Me: I beg to differ.
Twice he got screwed by a hermit druid like. 😂
Josh: Roflmao 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Hey it helped.
ashlin: I'm here to defend my record
*dies first*
tbf she died because she was the biggest threat to josh
She died bc she was the only one who could single handedly end Josh. Jimmy and Crim needed to work together to beat him, but Ashlen could have ended Josh by herself.
That is exactly why I always hated playing games with more than two players. Inevitably, if you are the best player you will be ganged up on. It pays to be middle of the road here.
Anything: Happens
Josh: So anyways I started responding.
Let's Play Spot the Veldaken Orrery: 35:31
This should be a game. A Where's Waldo for VO.
Dude, you just created a new mini game!
I did saw it. And I thought "OH NO THE ORRERY!"
That moment where even though Jimmy won, he looks like he lost everything.
It took every ounce of his being to get that win. It leeched his poor soul hahahaha!
literal bags under his eyes
Jimmy:”There’s no way you’re gonna mill out!”
Josh:”So that was a lie”
17:46 What? Crim missing land drops? That’s never happened before
Lol
that ain't real, he never builds a commander deck with less than 29 lands!!
"Shut the doors, close the windows, we are in a house, a cyclone came... The metaphor is just great."
This gotta be one of THE best quotes from Gameknights for me this far.
better then "such a jerk card for jerks" from episode 14?
The mill sequence editing is almost as spectacular as The comeback at the end of the video
Amazing
Jimmy definitely deserved that W. He's been getting screwed a LOT lately.
38:08 Josh: "This is where we can finally start making the moves that will close out the game..."
*looks at time left, another 40 minutes left in the game*
Good luck Josh...
27:13
That look on Ashlyns face.
Reminds me of how my parents looked at me my entire life.
ok that was one of the top wins i have seen on here! Redeems Jimmy for that " MATH IS FOR DEFENDERS" game :D
I literally had my tears when Jimmy got this, good game guys! Note to self : Always bring some eldrazi titans to shuffle the graveyard into the library
What a time to wish for a Feldon's
Cane.😂😂😂
Well... Just to play devils advocate. His deck wants to mill himself, he wants things in his graveyard. If he mills an Eldrazi he loses his discard pile to his library. This is counter intuitive to what the deck is trying to do.
Or a Gaia's Blessing (Its only useless if you draw into it)
@@papacalypse154 Not quite. Any deck that has a bulk strategy of drawing/self milling a ton of cards should have an escape route should that plan go south. Anything from an eldrazi, to Gaea's Blessing to even a Jace, Wielder of Mysteries or Laboratory Maniac.
Honestly, while Josh talked a lot about using the escape mechanic and needing to feed that, IT WAS BARELY USED. He ended up feeding a beast that cost him the win. Long story short... there is always room in your draw a bazillion plan for Kozileck.
"No way you're dying to milling, Josh."
*Proceeds to mill Josh*
16:48 I'm sensing a pattern when Jimmy is about to get insane value but ends up being unlucky just like the game nights with hermit druid XD 😂
This entire episode is basically the saying "One is not zero"
Alright imagine, josh reaches his hand out to jimmy to shake, jimmy is so excited he finally won, but inside josh's hand is a mnemonic nexus
31:40 Minor rules mistake: "If a face-down permanent moves from the battlefield to any other zone, its owner must reveal it to all players as they move it." (CR 707.9)
No judge or anything here, but i thought that rule was intended for the metamorphosis cards, in order to avoid people playing things as metamorphosis when they really are not. This case being a manifested card, and not a metamorphosis, i see no point for the rule to also be applied. Although if the wording is literally the one you said, it does apply even if it made no sense. My question is, is there a reason for manifested cards to also be revealed that i am missing? Or is it just that the wording of the rule happens to include them?
@@iTiago98 Keeping track of which face-down cards are morphs and which are manifests can get difficult on a crowded board (especially if you don't have access to the morph/manifest overlay tokens), so it's easier to just apply the same rules to all of them.
@@Snarwin yeah, that would be a fine reason to have the rule be applied to both
Also am I missing something here? At 1:02:53 Josh uses "one green floating" and adds 2 blue(taps one island because of zen resurgent) to cast a 3 cmc fade into antiquity... then immediately afterwards at 1:03:15 he says "i still have the one floating, so I'll add..."
Did he not just use all of his floating mana?
Edit: then he conveniently has 4 untapped mana for his counterspell... seems a little fishy
@@bongsesh from a quick review, it seems like he did miss misscount that floating green, but has no real impact because then he adds 6 to his manapool for a 5 mana mulldrifter. It is still kind of sketchy, because he attacked in between, but I don't think that was much of a slip, he had the mana for everything, even for the counterspell. To be fair, zen resurgence is a messy card, I always lose count when I have it on the battlefield xD
I haven’t played magic for so long. I wish I had more time to play. And also people to play with.
try to go to alocal game store, if you dont have one though luck, you will get one some day
I'd rather don't play than playing with people like Josh. And there are lots of them.
@@gysahlgemuse7208 just run more interaction and you'll be fine. Someone have pubstompy deck? There's probably cards out there that counter it.
You could also go to untap.in to play
Gysahl Gemüse bro, some ppl just spend a lot of money on their decks, there are much more casual players as well.
The foreshadowing in the second half is so perfect 😂😂😂 just the subtle looks at Josh’s deck, the “I don’t want to mill out sooo” it’s practically cinema
I've been spoiled by this show, it makes so easy to follow what happens in the game. Easier even than when I play commander with my friend. Great Show, great content!
"ill block with... my face." I think that's a quote I'll never forget, might even introduce it to my playgroup hahah
He is a funny guy 😂
Agreed. Loved him at the ppr as well
Chris Cox yeah man me too
Also note " Your sadness goes on the stack "
I also liked when he said I untap my real estate
25:10 either Ashlen is a really good actress or she was experiencing true grief. Love the take
No that is real “blues”
answer is yes. good actress. this time was just real grief.
You guys should get The Commanders Quarter's on the show and use some of his budget decks.
Then we might see a game without Cyclonic Rift.
But... you can't play original dual lands in a budget deck!
Commander's Quarters treats cards over 5 bucks like they're the worst cards to ever be printed. Yes cyc rift is a problem but maybe just ban it and forget about restrictions. Why hate on cards because of price?
@@Silverhand264 It happens to be over $5. I think it is more likely people dislike the card for its effect on the game.
@@Silverhand264 he also doesn't hate on cards because of price, he's legit just a budget deck builder. I don't know about his newer decks, but I at least know he used to put more expensive upgrades in ending or in an additional video. He is honestly super respectful of every card and the format itself, and it'd be awesome to see one of his personal decks played against these guys.
Mitch has a few $50 and $100 decks. He could still bring it around with the roflstomp
kind funny josh didn't seem worried when jimmy kept asking how many cards in deck. i would of been thinking ," does jimmy have a way to mill me at some point?
firstly, have*. Secondly, I don't believe he was asking with the intent of milling him, he simply wanted to know. He didn't think to mill him until the end of it.
I highly recommend playing magic the gathering with their friends through zoom to all those wanting to play and being unable to
Yeah, I want to play but I don’t have a camera, or a computer, or friends.
Bold of you to assume I’m not watching the episode again just because I already saw the patron version
OH MY GOD!!! That flashback sequence was beautiful
i've watched this 3 times and EVERY time i enjoy that ending. well done Jimmy.
My favorite part is when JLK realizes he's dead 1:14:17, excellent reaction
18:38 Ashley's smile as she said this made my day :)
Y’all need Mitch from the Commander’s Quarters on here one of these days! To destroy you with the power of BUDGET WIZARDRY. Y’all are just scared of his deckbuilding prowess you know he’d win.
If they had to make a deck under the same parameters mitch would win 9 out of 10 time
It broke my heart when josh milled his vedalken orrey to his altar :'(
Did you...like...headbutt your hearth or something?
Alexander Whiteclay He means heart lol
You mean heart?
My heart broke more :-( -JLK
@@commandcast We've decided there should be a Where's-Waldo-style game for your VO.