People who never knew Tupac always have the most opinion of Pac😂 They just want to put the entire life and personality of Pac in one box but fail to realize that what makes Pac so fascinating to many till this day is that he is all of those contradictions in one😂 Pac can be very loving and sensitive but can also be very explosive, feisty, militant and aggressive. Pac can act and sound very smart, intelligent and cerebral at times but can be super hard core and youthfully ignorant the next minute 😂 He represented so many facets the human nature especially at such a young age and that is why he's so dynamic, fascinating and talked about with reverence till today but a lot of these guys like Vlad and co with their limited mindsets and lack of intellectually prowess just can't seem to comprehend the versatility of Pac's mind, character and abilities will tend to or try to put Pac's entire life in a single box to make themselves feel better about never being able to measure up to a dead genius😂
Vlad please make it make sense. OK let's see here....Pac released his first album in November 1991 around the time the shooting of Juice rounded up, with the movie being released in 1992, within those times he was friends with Treach (and they were always know for getting into trouble with numerous fights, I think they were accused of even beating up a New York Cab driver during the filming of Juice) as they were both "Roadies" with their individual initial crews who toured together. His 1st album (which he had started recording before he got the role in Juice by happenstance) had "Brenda", "Trapped", "When my Homies call" on it and was flagged by Dan Qualye as a violent album, yet we are meant to believe that PAC changed after Juice!? Changed to what? (Add the fact that he was also already friends with Big Stretch and knew people like E Money Bags who were already Street Dudes way before he got the Juice role) From "Strictly" to Thug Life's album, to "MATW" Pac never really claimed a "Gangsta lifestyle in his music, he was more Militant inclined (especially with the THUGLIFE) Now you could say it was really after "Above the Rim" (and his role as Birdie) and his associations with people like Haitian Jack and other Gang related individuals and his friendships with some real hustlers in the Bay Area like E40 and then after his stint in Prison and his association with Death Row that he went full on "Gangsta mode!" In the music (Showcased in the double AEOM CD) because of the folks he was surrounded by. But to say he changed after Juice is just a blatant lie if you actually followed his life story....even the interview being referred to while 17 showed him being rebellious even at that early age (I believe he even talked about quitting his job on the interview). At this point VLAD is just using Pac's name for clickbait and becoming more disrespectful in the discussions about him....fact is you don't and never knew him, so everything you say is just hearsay (because of the various interviews on this man you have conducted) and just lazy commentary.
@@antneedahitta3027 that makes all of us...we all lived through that period and witnessd the evolutions and stories live....the music of that era was part of my teenage years (I can remember what I was doing and where I was when the news came that PAC had been shot a 2nd time and died, also when Biggie also got shot and killed because it was also the same year that Lady/Princess Diana also lost her life so we are honestly looking at a 1 year gap of shocking news between 1996 - 1997). Pac is no where a Saint, but was a complex and unique character/genius who didn't get to grow amd fulfil his potential (hence 40% of VLAD videos still has something to do with Dude 20 plus years after he is gone)
@Bunmi Fingesi yeah i agree, these guys dont know him. But they all know that his name will get clicks. But dam the disrespect for Pac name is just insane now. Been dead for over 20 yeas now and Vlad still uses his name for clickbait. He let guys come and lie on Tupac. They cant kill this Hip Hop legend no matter how hard they try.
“Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. I’m not the thief who grabs your purse. I’m not the guy who jacks your car. I’m not down with the people who steal and hurt others. I’m just a brother who fight back.” - Tupac Shakur
@Bobby Flynn are you a real black panther! I ask you what you did at 18 or 19? He died at 25! He was a kid but idiots like to make him out like he's god! He wasn't allowed to grow up but you wouldn't know about that you were born grown my bad!
How could Vlad think that about 2pac after the actors on Juice told him 2pac was already like that? They said he was always in trouble, getting into fights and stuff while filming the movie. The notoriety came a year after. Shock G said the same thing. While pac was a backup dancer, he was the same. They trynna make it seem like the guy was some gullible kid playing out the life of a movie character.
Doesn't make a person weak if they aren't from the streets. Acting like a g when you aren't, is weak to me. . Pac wasn't the hard g you try to make him out to be. He came from performance arts background. Its' show business bro.
I'm so glad that as young as 13, in the 90s, I was able to say to myself "nah. If these rappers are really out there killing people like that, they wouldn't be millionaires, living the good like". Ice Cube is one of the greats but I read somewhere that if that NWA thing didn't worked out, he was going to school to become an architect.
A lot or people who have not been in the street life believe any thing rappers say and idolize them. I was abused by my mother grew up rough in the 90s. Came from a broken and abused home, most of the kids in junior high that was in the streets selling drugs dudnt make it to 19. I didn't let my environment change me dude that's selling drugs and killing don't last long in the streets. They get killed or go to prison, I never saw a successful thug. That thug life led to 2 Pac death after jumping the crips in the casino in Vegas he was killed. Pac wanted to be gangsta so bad. When he was killer he was way older than me now I just hit 40 and have out lived him.
That's the difference. Back then it was artsy kids who became rappers then became gangsters. Or gangsters by association. The kids today are gangsters that start rapping. That's why the rap/drill world is so much more violent then ever before.
Tupac didn't stay 17. Within a few years he had to make big boy decisions to people that probably didn't respect his youth. I was a different person that came out of the military than went in
I hate when people act like they know someone because they knew them when they were young... as if people dont change, as is WE DONT EXPECT PEOPLE to change. In most cases people are expected to grow and be different then who they were as children
PAC also suffered from being set up by a female, and who he thought were his close friends. He was shot and robbed. I’m sure he had a form of “PTSD”. He didn’t trust anyone but his mother. He disbanded Thug Life to throw the middle finger at who he thought fucked him up.
@@themack74 And he was still the 1st to stomp out Orlando for stealing his boys death row chain, out of 10+ bangers. He still made it jump off 1st. Niggas raised by they momma is harder than any nigga raised by a father. Shows that for feminine nigga you can still see he was a REAL THUG later. 25 YEARS later and niggas still talking about him ... Almost nobody talks about big... When snoop dies 25 years later no one will be talking about him same with diddy and ALL the fed niggas that set up PAC. REMEMBER that mf!!
This is a lot deeper than any of you realise all I will say is an actor will always be a actor don't believe all you are presented with look behind the veil
@@SFNDMK No you must judge everyone by their content and facts that can be verified and proven, that means all presenters But more important is that you do your own research and investigation to come to the world truth
2pac wasnt just 1 of them things , he was ALL OF THEM THINGS. i just watched that dear mama series on hulu.. by far the best doc on his life and i learned the most about him and his family in that doc then all of the rest and ive literally seen em all, 2pac was mf soldier for his people , a leader, a poet, a ACTOR, AND A THUG
no he wasnt sir. in his older teenage years he was very soft spoken and moved around with his mother and he had a more playful energy, so that other image came after he became popular especially after the movie. People want to say he was always like that? hmm the 1st time we saw him like that really was on juice just so people understand . that thug behavior is something that happens to u when u are very young, its ingrained , its not something that gets developed when u are past your teenage years
Yeah, that doc is phenomenal. I'm a fan from the start and didn't quite realize how serious the panther thing was, or how deep his mother was in it. I also didn't know he was cool with The X Clan, whom I also liked. And I was especially shocked when he got up in front of a Panther meeting and went off on them for not doing enough, fighting back, or most importantly to him, protecting the children and families of the fallen soldiers.
@@mrlij6534 you’re another person who didn’t know him, that will say what pac wasn’t, but the damn people who knew him during juice, & before juice all says the same thing!🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😂
Pac said in the interview that MJW is referring to that, females don't react to nice guys. He got his heart broke and it changed him(it did the same to me). Poverty will change you. Racism will change you. The world will change you! My favorite songs of his wasn't remotely gangster at all. White man's world, Better days, Letter to my unborn child, etc. Pac didn't switch up, his character, identity, persona just amplified.
@@romesantana8960 lol no she didn’t . Jada wasn’t even allowed to be around Tupac in October and November of 1995 because will didn’t want her around him and death row . Will was intimidated by Tupac he said Tupac made him feel less of A man . Because will was A kid from Philly and ‘ pac was pac ‘ in wills words . Will is jealous of Tupac and Jada to dis day ! No denying ! Theirs video footage . Jada is madly in love with Tupac she said he proposed to her while Tupac was in rikers island in 1995 but she couldn’t accept it because she knew he was vulnerable at the time and really needed somebody . But people claim she lied about dat because Tupac was engaged before he even went to prison and him and Keisha were literally planning A wedding which they got but it wasn’t bora bora honeymoon it was in Clinton witnessed by like 1 of Tupac family member and some lady . The pictures are alll over the internet lmao
Michael jai white is telling the truth.. Tupac fans just don't wanna hear it because they put their idol on a pedestal. There's so many things that he preached that he didn't even follow himself..
2pac admitted himself on the MTV interview with Tabitha when he was young, he was withdrawn and different, writing poetry, calmer, etc. But think of it when you go through experience, hardships, moving different areas living in poverty, and his mother being addicted to crack. House full of drug addicts, alcoholics, murderers and even locked up family members. Then shit like that changes a person. Around the age of 19-20 is when Pac started being in the streets and realising he was a born thug and also died a thug. Every man from the age of 17-25 changes when you're going through a lot of shit you don't stay that same person. Pac said it himself, "My history, a man of many acts." Pac was just someone who changed constantly. Who knows what he would have been like if he lived longer.
Used to hangout with Michael Jai back in the day. He would start doing karate moves & speaking Cantonese whenever an Asian person would walk in the room.
People are more than one thing. How I am around my mom isn't how I am around my friends, my coworkers, my boss, my pastor, the police etc. 2pac was just like everyone else it's just once people get angry they tend to turn up their hostility more than they would if they weren't angry. It's common sense. Yall making pac out to look soft.
Facts bro .. the shit I’ve done in my life my parents would be shocked but I’ve always been respectful around them because everything I chose to do was exactly that .. I chose to do it
I'm saying, people are so narrow minded when they see you being funny and chill they see it as an opportunity to treat you like a pushover. Then when you flip the tables on them and start having to put people in their place the get shook and call you crazy. I approach every relationship, friendly and positive. But once you try to take advantage of that, I'm gonna meet or outmatch whatever evil manipulative level your on. I'm surprised this guy doesn't get that about others.
The reason why ppl brand it off as being corny is because while he did go through a bunch of shit in those 5 years, he also got rich af famous af with all the money and power to not have to be thuggin but he purposely went out of his way because he wanted to be a g when he never had to do and that’s why he got killed early
his life was for the most part BETTER as he got older. He talked about growing up poor, but by 18 or 19 he was hanging with Digital underground and got his foot in the music industry.The shooting and rape charge may not have been his fault. But he did choose to act the way he did in late 95-96
@@habjeetumso6844he wasn’t filthy rich. If you follow his life which was very public, he was never a millionaire. He bought his mom and himself a house and took care of his family. By 94 he had hella cases and people suing him and he was fighting all of em and settling some. He talks about this. His thug image wasn’t just for shits and giggles. Thug life was created and also developed with mutulu to bring peace to gangs. It’s documented and talked about. Gangs were coming together and the latin kings even stopped selling drugs because of the thug life code which was told thru prisons too. 2pac speaks of gang leaders from prison speaking to him and appreciating what he’s doing and he admits he’s gonna have problems when dealing with that kind of world. Not just from the gangs but from law enforcement. Most of his cases aren’t coincidences and accidents they were deliberately planned against him. The only reason he was shot the first time was because he needed the money to do the song at the studio where they set him up. When he got to deathrow he wasn’t a millionaire and he said that all thru his music while on DR. He only had like 100k in his account when he died and no property in his name. He was actually owed around 18+ million from All eyez on me and then makaveli. His contract had the points and money he would be owed upon completion of albums and albums sold. He accomplished that by Sept. 7 and he shoulda been paid. Notice Suge always says how much 2pac spent but never how much he would’ve been owed from the contract they both signed. Kenner never drafted a formal contract and that was part of the reason 2pac fired him.
Ppl are confusing who pac actually was vs how ppl viewed him. He grew up poor his whole life until he got his deal. He was still poor with the underground no car no house and little money
@@jordannixon5287 it's often assumed that people who grow up poor are automatically gangster. I don't know if that's the case here, I'm just guessing. I'm happy to be proven wrong
The thing is Tupac himself always said when he was younger he was quiet, withdrawn, and wrote poetry, Then even on the set of Gridlocked I think he said that he was a true Gemini. Somedays he is calm, quiet and actually pretty boring and other days he can be fun and dangerous (to himself and others). Why is it so hard for people to understand that people are not the same way all the time?
Pac tried his best not to come across as ignorant he left his baggage at home but even if he did come across effeminate he was raised by women and because of that PAC had a nurturing spirit
The narrative is what needs to change (not just for the sake of Pac's image but for men in general) and Tupac once again is one of the greatest examples. The idea that he was "effeminate" because he was more in touch with his gentler, compassionate and expressive side literally represents where toxic masculinity in society is rooted from. That you can only gain the masses attention/respect through the forced lense/perspective of bravado, aggressiveness and macho posturing says more about what most wrongly view as being "masculine" than about Tupac's character.....
@@AprilBanks-ry4pl It's literally impossible to not have one if you were raised by a woman. Believing to have one makes you soft or gay is the truest form of insecurity. Women obviously have to utilize their masculine energy at times in society, why would anyone assume men aren't even supposed to possess a feminine side?
Pac simply believed he could flip into what he might of seen as survival mode by playing a thug, a gangsta. My interactions with Pac when he was around my brother, my close friend Gregory AKA Shock G may you Rest In Paradise 🙏🏽 was definitely an effeminate individual. A soft hearted individual. After affiliating himself with Suge King is when he started to personify as a Gangsta and that's because he felt it was Survival Mode Time being around Suge Knight.. Pac was Millitant not Gangsta, Never That.
@@rebelzoriginal5763 As I always saw it from the man's own words, he wrote about certain narratives not to just come off as more "gangsta" but because it was the experience he saw many of the people who raised him and his peers going through and which effected him as well. In this world, there's not even masculine/feminine energies running things in the greater sense. Simple minds see it from that perspective. Getting down to the root of things, it's really straight up either higher/lower conscious, creative/destructive personalities making their marks in society today. It says a lot that Young Thug could hop on an album cover with a dress on but still be considered "a real one" by these kids now because he was once a for real killer while a fun loving, positive individual that isn't constantly thinking about murder/violence simply for the fuck of it comes off to people as being "effeminate." Someone please actually define to me what "effeminate" actually is because it's starting to seem like one of those things where you ask ten people and you get ten different responses....
I listen to Pac everyday. "Temptations" is my favorite track from him. Look, can we just please enjoy the music and memories Tupac Shakur left us with. Let the name and the man himself rest in peace.
I dont even listen to the albums. Pac has so much great unreleased material online, like: "Cant turn back, Biological, Dont go to sleep". I listen to those songs all day.
The only problem with this is MJW didn’t know Tupac well enough for me to take what he’s saying for more than a grain of salt. If people that actually knew him past a few pool games said the same thing, then F it, it is what it is.
Dozens of people have said that about Pac throughout the years. Hell, there’s an article from 96’ (the one where says something like “I would fight someone in a courtroom if I felt disrespected”) where the journalist noted how Pac would drastically change his personality according to the various environments they were in that day. She said when he got around the Death Row crew, he switched into street mode.
Lmao.. Didn’t you just hear the man say they were friends and hung out together? This is not the first time he’s made that statement and btw everyone in that era including myself felt the same way during that time. You probably wasn’t even born in the early 90’s. Smh lol!
@@shermricks7340 Yep, we all knew he was acting and many times overacting. Yet a lot of ppl continue making excuses for his foolishness, especially these younger folks who only know of Tupac via the internet.
@@datniggaeazye.5968 I’m not going off what dude said I was responding to the comment. I was saying Pac took on that character as Bishop myself back in the 90’s.
go ahead and watch his earliest interview. Before death row, early Digital Underground times. This man had the mannerisms of a feminine black female. From the way he said his words to the way he moved his hands and head when he talked. He was sweet fs bro. Nobody on earth can give you proof of who he slept with but he was definitely giving off the classic signs of homosexuality. Starts with the voice. Again… if PAC was gay.. who cares? Nothing wrong with him being gay. Why are y’all so defensive over it. Why is it so important that he’s straight? Lol .
Everyone close to Pac all said that was always him, even before Juice. A lot of us have a duality. Pac was young and impressionable yes, but not one person close to him have ever said he was fake.
Other ppl who knew Pac also said the opposite and he changed. Even dudes who love Pac have said he wasn’t the guy in the gang he came to be. He shouldn’t have been involved in that.
Tupac was young and evolving at a speed he needed to overcome his odds. Y’all don’t understand When your wise beyond your years you grow faster you move faster you do things ahead of your time. That’s why he’s a legend
wise beyond your years?? 2pac was being a fake thug, till he came across a real G and ended up getting dealt with that same night. Doesn't sound so wise to me, I mean driving around in the same town you just did some dirt in shows he wasn't a real thug. Because a real thug would of laid low after jumping Orlando. A real wise thug would of gotten the fuck out of dodge so ad to not get caught slipping. No real thug would of been driving around all out and about after jumping and jacking some hood n-gga.
it's funny to because even throughout all of his hardships in his life (mostly home related things) he stayed positive & wanted to be a positive role model... but once he got disrespected on the streets, he threw most of his morals away & lead the life of "only the strong survive".. though the motivation to inspire the future to positivity was always imbedded into his soul & you can see that from the music he made after became an artist..
go ahead and watch his earliest interview. Before death row, early Digital Underground times. This man had the mannerisms of a feminine black female. From the way he said his words to the way he moved his hands and head when he talked. He was sweet fs bro. Nobody on earth can give you proof of who he slept with but he was definitely giving off the classic signs of homosexuality. Starts with the voice. Again… if PAC was gay.. who cares? Nothing wrong with him being gay. Why are y’all so defensive over it. Why is it so important that he’s straight? Lol .
Yep, Pac even talked about being in touch with his softer side bc raised by his mama. He even talked about girls saying he was TOO nice, dumping him,rejecting him, couldn't get a dance at clubs,etc. Then he got wise to FEMALE nature and how the world worked... THIS molded him into the Pac everybody was obsessed with.
@@jackiechun5817 even then a man can be more than one thing at a time. During that time he was trying to sell drug and living on the streets. People watch that interview like he gets up and goes back to a mansion or something. He was just well spoken. He was even like that as an adult.
U got issues - but who the fk is u for anyone to care about ur hate, keep hardening your heart in this manner - which other "rapper" has classes on their impact? But you wouldn't know that he does - Google u fk
The end of the vid is so real. People always try to undermine the negative effects of gangster music and entertainment, just because it’s not always the sole influence for bad behavior.
This kind of reminds me of how Vlad puts on a "blaccent" when he interviews some black guests, but when he interviews Steve Rifkind he's reverts to being a regular white guy 🤣🤣🤣
What got “gangsters” fucking with Pac was when he shot those two cops in the ass and strutted out of the courtroom. He was protecting a Black man. That’s who he was, has nothing to do with Bishop. If we’re being real, Bishop was a nut in the movie, he just so happen to have e a gun. Tired of these dudes running with this narrative about Pac like he was a fake dude.
he was fake as they come, he did go from that little effeminate nice kid who spoke highly of woman and loved poetry to the most gangsta guy who called woman bitches and talked about killing people within a few years . He was all over the place, some days he decided to go full sensitive poet, the next day he was talking about crime and murder. Very lost soul actually
Vlads entire RUclips come up was based on getting guests to hate on pacs credibility or comment on his own role in his demise. This is so oversimplified it’s basically just hate. We all grow and emulate things and wear many masks. Pac was one of the goats and vlad ain’t shit. Jai White says treach and fat Joe the only rappers about that life and both respected pac immensely. White been low key hating on pac a long time too.
Pac was fake asf. Only wannabe thugs or wannabe gangsters actually believe Pac was who he portrayed to be. Pac was a art school kid that did poetry and ballet. Pac didnt have a thug bone in his body
This is gonna be real unpopular, but for decades i said this about tupac. I always said that one minute that guy acts all super tough, but if you watch him close he's real effeminate. Literally been saying that my whole life. You look at him that way, then you make the Jada/will smith connection, especially after that slap. Paints a different picture of tupac. And that character he played? The so called bishop character. Literally influenced generations of black men. Sad when you really think of it.
Actually it was Tupac's time in northern california being homeless, hanging around pimps, street dudes, and drug dealers that gave him his rougher persona. The reason why he was even welcomed into Digital Underground is because Shock G wanted Tupac to keep the group in touch with the streets side of things. 2pac had also hooked up with many of the Bay area rappers like e-40, and the late mc breed r.i.p. this happened way before the movie "Juice", he was involved in. It was how he knew what energy to approach the character with. so the transition from tupac's more effeminate side to his more macho persona was really born on the streets of northern california, and put on steroids when he hit Los Angeles, and Death Row Records. He was actually in a gang in L.A., and it's really tatted on his stomach. I was a c/o in a california prison, and one inmate showed me a polaroid of 2pac in a house party over in the area of LA that I grew up in, and he was wearing the california love in the desert outfit. That thug life with the bullet symbol for the letter "I", is really a gang in L.A. A guy in the prison pointed it out to me the symbol on his own stomach. I get this information from the many 2pac documentaries that I currently have. It's the same with Kemt, now called Egypt. The knowledge didn't start in Kemet, the nile flows to Kemet, and not the other way around. So all the information came to Kemet, just like everything ends up in New York.
@@lord_cobi we don't know the majority of the people we talk about on the internet. we can only gather as much information as we can before we make an assessment. so it's all evaluation based on what information we've been privy to. You don't know anything you learned in history, but I bet you still talk about it, and the people who told you about history are lying for real for real, but I bet you believe what they wrote. probably believe in allah, or jesus, or christianity, or islam, but where's the proof?
they only do it with black stars, but this what happen when white people are in your culture they make something sus about one of ours to fit there twisted agenda.
Thank you! This is what it was, period. We didn't have cellphones and internet back in the 90s, so it was easier for rappers to get away with all their lies, pushing a false narrative.
2pac said after going to prison, it made him worse. You knew me at 17, doesn't mean you could understand me at 23. Growth is the natural order of things, whether the growth is bad or to a detriment. 2pac said, this the way y'all made me.
Yeah, society made him portray this fake gangster super thug because people thought he wws soft. The women who like bad boys made him adopt this bad boy image because they said he was too nice. I see young Black males do this all the time, this hyper masculinity and it gets them killed everyday like Tupac. Fame is a motherfucka
I've always hated the narrative that 2pac was a soft kid then pretended to be tough. You're telling me when a person gets shot, sent to prison, accused of rape, set up to be robbed and killed, a victim of police brutality he's suppose to be the exact same person when he was a 17 year old kid. So expirence, getting older, hard times, never effects how a person is.
Hard times and getting over the hard times make the man or anyone picking one year out of someone’s life and talking about it it when they are another age in life is slow asf
@@djstewart5409 because real thugs arent performers, they arent on tv rapping and singing, they arent into the "arts". Real thugs are professional criminals, something tupac wasnt. Tupac found out the hard way.
😂😂y'all have to listen to the real people who knew 2Pac. Even Marlon Wayans said he wasn't protraying anybody, that was apart of him, naturally. Research some of the old interviews/documentaries with people who grew up with 2Pac, they'll tell you Pac wasn't acting, that was apart of him period.
the thing is he interviewed money b, vlad has something about him where he when he believes something it does not matter rather its true or not he's going run with it.
All young people transition. Is when they're trying to figure out who they are themselves. Doesn't make you your true self when you were a freaking teenager, so you're 100% correct. It works the opposite for some other people they grew up really thugged out and then mature it want to be viewed as educated business people as adults. Teenage years are metamorphosis years. He wasn't raised around men and he learned to move like a man later.
MJW didnt know Pac before or during Juice. And didnt barely know him afterward. Everyone who know Pac before and during the Juice filiming. Including the director. Said Pac brought HIMSELF to that role. NOT the other way around.
Yeah alot of people just being biased and coping. It literally makes sense like how most todays rappers are told to play gangster by managers to sell records
@@NeilSteel They hate MJW because deep down his truth telling exposes the Tupac Cultists for who they actually are. They would have NEVER held the same love and respect for the real Tupac. The person who they worship is "Bishop". A ridiculous, psychopath who ironically foretold the ultimate fate of the actor who couldn't stop portraying him.
When Tupac lived in Marin, he stayed in the projects an was a member of the local crew. He might not of been super gangster but he didn’t just wake up an decide to be that person like y’all assume.
The irony of it all is that the 17 year old Pac we see in that video was a Pac who was out in the streets living in the projects of Marin city and sold drugs for a week or so and hanging out with the local crew who were street dudes.
@@Asvpsupreme again, i've seen everything there is to see about his life no where did anyone ever mention him being soft no one the most i heard about pac is that he had a big heart i heard he tried to sell drugs at one point but could'nt do it, thats probably the closet.
"I want to clarify the statement Michael Jai said on Vlad TV regarding Pac acting one way toward black people and another toward white people," he said on the Art of Dialogue. "The week before Pac died he was in New York and he was pissed. And I remember Michael Jai, he was a doorman at a hotel Pac was staying in, and he was like 'Yo, Pac what's up, where's the party at' ... and I remember Pac just turns around and snaps on him, 'Don't be asking me about no party, are you trying to set me up' ... that's the only time I can recall Pac being around the Michael Jai dude." Napoleon
I don’t know why these people keep skipping over the fact that Pac was hanging out every day with real thugs from Richmond and Oakland for like 3 years straight before he ever played bishop. Vlad it’s a must you get Joseph Flowers on your show when he comes home
These is SUCKAS. But Vlad should know about this if he really know about the bay.he should have knew how RICHMOND was rolling in the late 80s early 90s he should know how Oakland was getting down. Vlad a sucka
He used the character as a vessel to become a badass out for revenge. It was marketable, highly successful and most importantly the way he always wished he could see himself. He was soft deep down, but he was a living Oscar performance in the flesh. One of a kind! But there have been others like him in human history. Read about William H. Bonney Alias: Billy the kid…
@@juhgfdsapiyhhnnxc3517 Tupac made dat interview before he went to Oakland . Tupac had never been with real men or consistently with men so he quickly adapted Tupac was smart he could go anywhere the suburbs , the hood , and can get along with everyone
I honestly think Chris Brown goes through the same thing in 05-08 he was a smiley face r&b singer then around 2011 to now he became somewhat of a gangsta r&b singer
2pac wasn’t effeminate, he was an actor at heart. That means he could embrace different identities to play a character. That interview showed him trying to portray himself as a nice kid so that he could blend in with his peers at that Arts school. Michael Jai White knows this! By the way, Michael’s movie list history lists that he was cast in a movie named Chocolate City and he’s calling Pac effeminate? 😂
The excuses yall 2Pac fanboys are hilarious. Pac was very feminine. Pac was *NOT* acting during his high school interview. Yall 2Pac fanboys warp yall minds and continue believing this facade that 2Pac created.
@@versatillion15 he was playing a character, like nearly every rapper did back then and still now. He just did it better than anyone ever has. Which is why he’s the greatest!
@@versatillion15 I don’t idolize any man! I can recognize great talent when I see it though, and if you don’t think Pac was one of the most talented entertainers from the last century, then you’re either a hater or just ignorant! You seem to know something about PAC’s history though so I’m assuming you’re just a hater.
Why everybody acting like the bishop character was odog. Bishop was a regular dude who got bullied until he snapped and killed one friend and tried to kill the others. Where in 2pacs life did he do all this?
FOH... Ain't nobody the same person they was at 17 life changes you... PAC was able to tap in to all his emotions at once... Just listen to his music... Love, hate, passion, anger, confusion, you name it... If you can feel it he touched on it so to say I saw him change after playing bishop... Is like saying Vlad changed since the Beef and smack DVD era... You dam right he changed nothing stays the same period
Tupac grew up in the Bronx, Harlem and Baltimore during the 70’s and 80’s. If you think those aren’t “The Hood” (Especially Baltimore) then you need a reality check.
When he said that shit that is when I knew it was time to turn that mess up. Even Shock G said he was practically raised by pimps and prostitutes in California.
Really interesting....2 guys who didnt really know Pac...talking about how well they knew what Pac was...all the people who knew really knew Pac all pretty much speak the same way about him. Bishop didn't change him...and as far as that interview...MJW couldn't have watched the entire interview. He grew up...we all change growing up. But even watching that interview, you can see Pac was the same guy.
Let me SQUASH all this shit for yall! Tupac did not become a gangsta after playing Bishop. That role was not even meant for Pac. That script was for Rapper Money -B from Digital underground.. the movie company wanted him to try out for the part and when Money B read it he said man this Bishop character reminds me so much of Pac and he gave the script to Pac and told him to go try out for it and he did and got the role. So this debunks the that whole theory of Pac turning gangsta after the role. He was already Bishop.His true friends knew how Pac was
This guy never been wrongly accused or convicted for crimes he's never committed. Never been betrayed, robbed, and shot by his own ppl. How can he judge someone who's been through all of that? And he didn't know pac like that.. Rip Tupac
All you mentioned is the choice that PAC put himself in, his own aunt said best “you didn’t come from that, how did you get there” . Stop with ‘who really knew pac’, you are fan that just know him thru his music. MJW was Speaking from actually meeting and hanging with guy.
I’ve been saying this for alil minute now and people still defend him like they don’t wanna hear the truth like it really be hurting them emotionally deep over a fake 1 he was a ballerina high school watch all his interviews when attended HS before becoming famous they all just simply make him Mr. Suss!!!!!!!
That was disrespectful Af. Just because he didn’t walk around shooting shit up doesn’t mean he was effeminate. He just went through more shit as he got older and didn’t take no bs. Ppl always say Pac had a wildside even before the fame.
Fr I like mjw and Vlad is ok but they sound full of it on this clip neither one really knew that man , because you played pool with him a few times didn't make y'all best homies
No, he was saying 2pac was effeminate in his interview at 17. Which he was. Look at it and tell me it ain’t effeminate. I don’t like Michael Jai White, but he’s telling the truth here.
@@sparrowprince3432 effeminate means characteristics of a women bruh the man didn’t act like a woman . Just because he didn’t yell or call women bitches didn’t make him effeminate smh
@@sparrowprince3432 he can’t be telling the truth on the account of him not knowing Tupac. His only experience with him is at a pool game that man is full of it. 17 he witnessed policed brutality, someone stabbed to death, his mother on crack his role models where streets. The man even sold crack for a period of time til he realized it fucked up his community. Pac was always the same he just grew up angry. Angry and gangsta ain’t the same thing like how y’all view it to be. The man was a tough soldier not a gangsta
Pac was rocking eyeliner in that interview at age 17 with a single right earring and a limp wrist. Queen Latifah admitted they went to gay club together where he took his shirt off. The weird pictures online of him in bed with Money B. The photoshoot in the tub where Papa G is salivating and rubbing all up on him. This yall hero?? Smh 🌈
@@Bone_youtube_soft you literally just typed just to type clown. You’re just another one of these RUclips clowns trying your hardest to push that propaganda about Pac that will never succeed.You’re fasho a limp wrist tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is so out of context. He was there to support Queen Latifah because she was performing there and they were close like brother and sister and also with the same label. She didn’t say nothing about him going there because he was sus. This was like a one time thing.
EVERYBODY says this cuz of that one video pac did as a Freshman in high school as a dancer. Fact is AFTER that while still a teenager he moved to Cali for the first time as a Teen. Most people wasnt gangsta at 13-14 and LOT of growing smd shxt hsppens between 15-18yo.
The funny thing is if people really study that interview of him at 17 they ll see that Pac already had a tough mindset. How many 17 year old's talk like that? Pac was always the same he just got older
@@SmithJackson-y3k I actually see a young kid flirting with the older interviewer while trying to show his intellect. She is probably an attractive woman so it's coming across innocent and childlike.
Wow good thing PAC told his own story. It's always some hater coming out trying to tell someone else's story like they grew up with them and know their whole life story like a book.
Tupac was literally the best actor ever, he played out a gangster role his entire life till he passed. Also he did some theatre work at Baltimore performing arts school also Ballet
So why did dude from digital underground say Pac was more wild before bishop than after they said he actually was more chill after that part.. these come from people that was actually around before Juice..
This is true. It reminds me of the story of Zach de La Rocha of Rage Against the Machine. Listening to him rap or reading through his lyrics you'd think that he was a guerilla soldier fighting the powers that be within the hills of Bolivia by the time he was 10 when in reality he grew up in an upper middle class white neighborhood in Irvine, CA as a skateboarder kid
Biggie also said that Tupac was always shooting at somebody or somebody was shooting at him. These haters love to say Pok was acting. Pat was a guy from the street who had an itchy trigger finger.
I think the bigger conversation is adolescence black men in the hood realize early on that being a gangster or having some of those qualities is the only way your accepted in certain communities
I wouldn't use the term effeminate but he was in touch with his emotions which is cool cause everybody got emotions. His homie from way back said it was after some cops beat him up and he got a gun that he decided to fight back, which is logical cause i ain't warring against nobody with guns with my hands. Pac always had those feelings of standing up against those who tried to play him. If you follow his life closely you can see that when he was young he got taken advantage of so i understand him not giving af about other people's feelings when he was able to hold his own
well I'm a big big big 2pac fan, and when I saw the interview of him at 17, effeminate, is the first thing came to my mind, really it was an even worse word that I thought of, but hey, I'm still his number one fan.
@@RONALDMURPHY-vu8ue and factually it aint nothing wrong with him being like that. He wasn't fully grown so him being raised without his dad may have influenced that. But we all noticed a change after the movie Juice. Maybe he just started to act out what was already in him
@@RichieB40444 Tupac when he was living in northern california shot 2 plain clothed white police officers who he thought was harassing a black man. That's even before his Digital Underground days. Juice was just a movie.
@@versatillion15 Black people code switch. I never mentioned that I do that. I’m saying many of us when we get around a specific group we change how we talk and act. For example, we talk one way around white people and another way around those in our neighborhoods.
@@versatillion15 If you wanna have an intelligent conversation we can but if you wanna just throw out accusations from a place of ignorance then i’m gone
I agree but this topic is where people had a problem with MJW saying it's like bro. You barely knew the guy. You only met him a few times and you're calling this man. effeminate?! Lol
As someone who grew up in the 90s as a white kid listening to hardcore rap, I remember when Bone thugs first came out, I remember when the Chronic 1 album came out, I remember when Doggystyle came out, I remember when All eyes on me came out, I remember when Eminem first came out. These were highly influencing music albums that affected the youth of the culture. And yet we idolize these fake gangsters Go read an article called ‘The secret meeting that changed hip hop forever’
It's true! Jada said it too! Pac wasn't a "thug" when they were in high school. Pac was an artist and a performer. Jada was the one who was "in that life" at the time, and she admits that as she was coming OUT of that street life, Pac was heading INTO it....
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People who never knew Tupac always have the most opinion of Pac😂 They just want to put the entire life and personality of Pac in one box but fail to realize that what makes Pac so fascinating to many till this day is that he is all of those contradictions in one😂 Pac can be very loving and sensitive but can also be very explosive, feisty, militant and aggressive. Pac can act and sound very smart, intelligent and cerebral at times but can be super hard core and youthfully ignorant the next minute 😂 He represented so many facets the human nature especially at such a young age and that is why he's so dynamic, fascinating and talked about with reverence till today but a lot of these guys like Vlad and co with their limited mindsets and lack of intellectually prowess just can't seem to comprehend the versatility of Pac's mind, character and abilities will tend to or try to put Pac's entire life in a single box to make themselves feel better about never being able to measure up to a dead genius😂
Vlad please make it make sense. OK let's see here....Pac released his first album in November 1991 around the time the shooting of Juice rounded up, with the movie being released in 1992, within those times he was friends with Treach (and they were always know for getting into trouble with numerous fights, I think they were accused of even beating up a New York Cab driver during the filming of Juice) as they were both "Roadies" with their individual initial crews who toured together. His 1st album (which he had started recording before he got the role in Juice by happenstance) had "Brenda", "Trapped", "When my Homies call" on it and was flagged by Dan Qualye as a violent album, yet we are meant to believe that PAC changed after Juice!? Changed to what? (Add the fact that he was also already friends with Big Stretch and knew people like E Money Bags who were already Street Dudes way before he got the Juice role) From "Strictly" to Thug Life's album, to "MATW" Pac never really claimed a "Gangsta lifestyle in his music, he was more Militant inclined (especially with the THUGLIFE) Now you could say it was really after "Above the Rim" (and his role as Birdie) and his associations with people like Haitian Jack and other Gang related individuals and his friendships with some real hustlers in the Bay Area like E40 and then after his stint in Prison and his association with Death Row that he went full on "Gangsta mode!" In the music (Showcased in the double AEOM CD) because of the folks he was surrounded by. But to say he changed after Juice is just a blatant lie if you actually followed his life story....even the interview being referred to while 17 showed him being rebellious even at that early age (I believe he even talked about quitting his job on the interview). At this point VLAD is just using Pac's name for clickbait and becoming more disrespectful in the discussions about him....fact is you don't and never knew him, so everything you say is just hearsay (because of the various interviews on this man you have conducted) and just lazy commentary.
Neither one of y’all never knew Pac foh
@@antneedahitta3027 that makes all of us...we all lived through that period and witnessd the evolutions and stories live....the music of that era was part of my teenage years (I can remember what I was doing and where I was when the news came that PAC had been shot a 2nd time and died, also when Biggie also got shot and killed because it was also the same year that Lady/Princess Diana also lost her life so we are honestly looking at a 1 year gap of shocking news between 1996 - 1997). Pac is no where a Saint, but was a complex and unique character/genius who didn't get to grow amd fulfil his potential (hence 40% of VLAD videos still has something to do with Dude 20 plus years after he is gone)
@Bunmi Fingesi yeah i agree, these guys dont know him. But they all know that his name will get clicks. But dam the disrespect for Pac name is just insane now. Been dead for over 20 yeas now and Vlad still uses his name for clickbait. He let guys come and lie on Tupac. They cant kill this Hip Hop legend no matter how hard they try.
“Let me say for the record, I am not a gangster and never have been. I’m not the thief who grabs your purse. I’m not the guy who jacks your car. I’m not down with the people who steal and hurt others. I’m just a brother who fight back.”
- Tupac Shakur
I like that ❤️🔥❤️🔥
Well said 💎🗣️💯
@Bobby Flynn 😂😂🤡
@Bobby Flynn yall say some dumb ass shit
@Bobby Flynn are you a real black panther! I ask you what you did at 18 or 19? He died at 25! He was a kid but idiots like to make him out like he's god! He wasn't allowed to grow up but you wouldn't know about that you were born grown my bad!
How could Vlad think that about 2pac after the actors on Juice told him 2pac was already like that? They said he was always in trouble, getting into fights and stuff while filming the movie. The notoriety came a year after. Shock G said the same thing. While pac was a backup dancer, he was the same. They trynna make it seem like the guy was some gullible kid playing out the life of a movie character.
2pac didnt want tht street sm0ke as he thought when it came to vegas...cut the cap 😂
That was Pac being a diva and delinquent in his late teens and twenties, but that doesn't make him gangsta.
Doesn't make a person weak if they aren't from the streets. Acting like a g when you aren't, is weak to me. . Pac wasn't the hard g you try to make him out to be. He came from performance arts background. Its' show business bro.
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 you still doing this weird shit bro
Well said
I'm so glad that as young as 13, in the 90s, I was able to say to myself "nah. If these rappers are really out there killing people like that, they wouldn't be millionaires, living the good like". Ice Cube is one of the greats but I read somewhere that if that NWA thing didn't worked out, he was going to school to become an architect.
how when he wrote everything? lmfao
A lot or people who have not been in the street life believe any thing rappers say and idolize them. I was abused by my mother grew up rough in the 90s. Came from a broken and abused home, most of the kids in junior high that was in the streets selling drugs dudnt make it to 19. I didn't let my environment change me dude that's selling drugs and killing don't last long in the streets. They get killed or go to prison, I never saw a successful thug. That thug life led to 2 Pac death after jumping the crips in the casino in Vegas he was killed. Pac wanted to be gangsta so bad. When he was killer he was way older than me now I just hit 40 and have out lived him.
@@Tiger24kicksdeep
That's the difference. Back then it was artsy kids who became rappers then became gangsters. Or gangsters by association. The kids today are gangsters that start rapping. That's why the rap/drill world is so much more violent then ever before.
the problem is that some people took it seriously and started doing crimes cause their idol did it.
Tupac didn't stay 17. Within a few years he had to make big boy decisions to people that probably didn't respect his youth. I was a different person that came out of the military than went in
I hate when people act like they know someone because they knew them when they were young... as if people dont change, as is WE DONT EXPECT PEOPLE to change. In most cases people are expected to grow and be different then who they were as children
@@maniac50ae14 right!! & really didn’t know him! Swear they figured out who he was during that interview at 17🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😂 folks funny
100 on the military same for me and all of us
PAC also suffered from being set up by a female, and who he thought were his close friends. He was shot and robbed. I’m sure he had a form of “PTSD”. He didn’t trust anyone but his mother. He disbanded Thug Life to throw the middle finger at who he thought fucked him up.
Kevin were you better or worse when you came out of the military
Look at all the stuff he went through. Life changes you
@@themack74 And he was still the 1st to stomp out Orlando for stealing his boys death row chain, out of 10+ bangers. He still made it jump off 1st. Niggas raised by they momma is harder than any nigga raised by a father. Shows that for feminine nigga you can still see he was a REAL THUG later. 25 YEARS later and niggas still talking about him
... Almost nobody talks about big... When snoop dies 25 years later no one will be talking about him same with diddy and ALL the fed niggas that set up PAC. REMEMBER that mf!!
Not from 17 to 19... What did he go thru; mild success?
@@PancakeDiaries pac dropped out at 17 and he was living place to place trying to survive the best he could out in the world
His mom said he really changed after he was beaten by the police.
@@themack74 it’s common with boys who have no dad + sisters until they get around real men.
This is a lot deeper than any of you realise
all I will say is an actor will always be a actor
don't believe all you are presented with look behind the veil
So we shouldn't believe MJW too?
@@SFNDMK
No you must judge everyone by their content and facts that can be verified and proven, that means all presenters
But more important is that you do your own research and investigation to come to the world truth
@@DaddyMacs so we shouldn't believe MJW? Got it
@@SFNDMK
This doesn't include people who are mentally challenged 😂
Blks be coping hella hard . that boy fruity fruity
2pac wasnt just 1 of them things , he was ALL OF THEM THINGS. i just watched that dear mama series on hulu.. by far the best doc on his life and i learned the most about him and his family in that doc then all of the rest and ive literally seen em all, 2pac was mf soldier for his people , a leader, a poet, a ACTOR, AND A THUG
no he wasnt sir. in his older teenage years he was very soft spoken and moved around with his mother and he had a more playful energy, so that other image came after he became popular especially after the movie. People want to say he was always like that? hmm the 1st time we saw him like that really was on juice just so people understand . that thug behavior is something that happens to u when u are very young, its ingrained , its not something that gets developed when u are past your teenage years
@@mrlij6534 what you said does not negate what they said.
Yeah, that doc is phenomenal. I'm a fan from the start and didn't quite realize how serious the panther thing was, or how deep his mother was in it. I also didn't know he was cool with The X Clan, whom I also liked. And I was especially shocked when he got up in front of a Panther meeting and went off on them for not doing enough, fighting back, or most importantly to him, protecting the children and families of the fallen soldiers.
@@mrlij6534 you’re another person who didn’t know him, that will say what pac wasn’t, but the damn people who knew him during juice, & before juice all says the same thing!🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️😂
@@mrlij6534 I know real killers that didn't turn that way until around 18-19 years old. Every body comes into their own at their own time.
Pac said in the interview that MJW is referring to that, females don't react to nice guys. He got his heart broke and it changed him(it did the same to me). Poverty will change you. Racism will change you. The world will change you!
My favorite songs of his wasn't remotely gangster at all. White man's world, Better days, Letter to my unborn child, etc. Pac didn't switch up, his character, identity, persona just amplified.
That real 💯
@@romesantana8960 who broke Tupac heart ??
Who broke pac heart ?? a girl like who are u talking about
@@adritv8666 Jada pinkett smith
@@romesantana8960 lol no she didn’t . Jada wasn’t even allowed to be around Tupac in October and November of 1995 because will didn’t want her around him and death row . Will was intimidated by Tupac he said Tupac made him feel less of A man . Because will was A kid from Philly and ‘ pac was pac ‘ in wills words . Will is jealous of Tupac and Jada to dis day ! No denying ! Theirs video footage . Jada is madly in love with Tupac she said he proposed to her while Tupac was in rikers island in 1995 but she couldn’t accept it because she knew he was vulnerable at the time and really needed somebody . But people claim she lied about dat because Tupac was engaged before he even went to prison and him and Keisha were literally planning A wedding which they got but it wasn’t bora bora honeymoon it was in Clinton witnessed by like 1 of Tupac family member and some lady . The pictures are alll over the internet lmao
Michael jai white is telling the truth.. Tupac fans just don't wanna hear it because they put their idol on a pedestal. There's so many things that he preached that he didn't even follow himself..
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Naw he was reaching for views
Where’s the proof? We’re not saying it’s not true we’re saying it was never heard of and not going to believe it until we see evidence.
@@DNot32k11check the video about 2Pac fake or gay, just watch it and there's proof with context
@@DNot32k11 Tupac said himself that the "Gangsta" role is for making money and rolling with the hype.
Michael Jai White is shocked to learn that people are multifaceted.
And even more stunned to find that a guy at 20 isn't the same kid he was at 17.
It’s mind boggling.
He must have been one of those sheltered kids. They didn’t get to go outside like that.
@@Antnee504 Yap. With a mother on crack. That makes so much sense.
@@Antnee504 you clearly haven’t watched documentaries on him. There was NOTHING sheltered about Pac’s upbringing.
@@MarkHallOfFame I wasn’t talking about Pac I was talking about Michael Jai White
2pac admitted himself on the MTV interview with Tabitha when he was young, he was withdrawn and different, writing poetry, calmer, etc. But think of it when you go through experience, hardships, moving different areas living in poverty, and his mother being addicted to crack. House full of drug addicts, alcoholics, murderers and even locked up family members. Then shit like that changes a person. Around the age of 19-20 is when Pac started being in the streets and realising he was a born thug and also died a thug. Every man from the age of 17-25 changes when you're going through a lot of shit you don't stay that same person. Pac said it himself, "My history, a man of many acts." Pac was just someone who changed constantly. Who knows what he would have been like if he lived longer.
U can’t start out to be a gangbanger at 19, that’s like saying that rich white kid can just All of a sudden change and be a gangster at 19
@@malikrevis6896 it happens alot of Mobb gangsters and figures came from whole some families.
@@malikrevis6896 u can if the gangbangers put u down 😂
Pac told you who he was himself
Loveeeee when people do their research!! Spot on
Used to hangout with Michael Jai back in the day. He would start doing karate moves & speaking Cantonese whenever an Asian person would walk in the room.
Lmbo that's hilarious!
😂
😂😂😂 patronizing much lol
You lying bro😂😂😂😂
That’s some lame CORNY ASS SHIT
I love how people KNOW Pac’s life that weren’t related to him.
Lol man shit comical fr
Did you know him?
Like these crazy ass fans
@@joannroy3278 No.
@@blacksheep9278 Yea like Vlad and not Michael Jai White.
People are more than one thing. How I am around my mom isn't how I am around my friends, my coworkers, my boss, my pastor, the police etc. 2pac was just like everyone else it's just once people get angry they tend to turn up their hostility more than they would if they weren't angry. It's common sense. Yall making pac out to look soft.
Facts bro .. the shit I’ve done in my life my parents would be shocked but I’ve always been respectful around them because everything I chose to do was exactly that .. I chose to do it
Exactly the version of me my parents,office and close friends are not all exactly the same, some for obvious reasons
💯💯💯💯💯
I'm saying, people are so narrow minded when they see you being funny and chill they see it as an opportunity to treat you like a pushover. Then when you flip the tables on them and start having to put people in their place the get shook and call you crazy. I approach every relationship, friendly and positive. But once you try to take advantage of that, I'm gonna meet or outmatch whatever evil manipulative level your on. I'm surprised this guy doesn't get that about others.
Borderline if not bipolar
I was innocent at 17, but a few heart breaks in betrayals of friends will change that for you nobody stays the same for 5+ years bruh.
Facts. He was Shot 😂
Well he was in the industry, theres many controlling people behind the scenes to help reinvent the individual/ celebrity to influence the followers.
The reason why ppl brand it off as being corny is because while he did go through a bunch of shit in those 5 years, he also got rich af famous af with all the money and power to not have to be thuggin but he purposely went out of his way because he wanted to be a g when he never had to do and that’s why he got killed early
his life was for the most part BETTER as he got older. He talked about growing up poor, but by 18 or 19 he was hanging with Digital underground and got his foot in the music industry.The shooting and rape charge may not have been his fault. But he did choose to act the way he did in late 95-96
@@habjeetumso6844he wasn’t filthy rich. If you follow his life which was very public, he was never a millionaire. He bought his mom and himself a house and took care of his family. By 94 he had hella cases and people suing him and he was fighting all of em and settling some. He talks about this. His thug image wasn’t just for shits and giggles. Thug life was created and also developed with mutulu to bring peace to gangs. It’s documented and talked about. Gangs were coming together and the latin kings even stopped selling drugs because of the thug life code which was told thru prisons too. 2pac speaks of gang leaders from prison speaking to him and appreciating what he’s doing and he admits he’s gonna have problems when dealing with that kind of world. Not just from the gangs but from law enforcement. Most of his cases aren’t coincidences and accidents they were deliberately planned against him. The only reason he was shot the first time was because he needed the money to do the song at the studio where they set him up. When he got to deathrow he wasn’t a millionaire and he said that all thru his music while on DR. He only had like 100k in his account when he died and no property in his name. He was actually owed around 18+ million from All eyez on me and then makaveli. His contract had the points and money he would be owed upon completion of albums and albums sold. He accomplished that by Sept. 7 and he shoulda been paid. Notice Suge always says how much 2pac spent but never how much he would’ve been owed from the contract they both signed. Kenner never drafted a formal contract and that was part of the reason 2pac fired him.
Ppl are confusing who pac actually was vs how ppl viewed him. He grew up poor his whole life until he got his deal. He was still poor with the underground no car no house and little money
Why’s your emphasis on money allot of people are poor but what’s your point
He struggled to keep money also because of ppl perceiving and treating him like a legit immediate threat.
@@jordannixon5287 wondering the same thing
@@jordannixon5287 it's often assumed that people who grow up poor are automatically gangster. I don't know if that's the case here, I'm just guessing. I'm happy to be proven wrong
@@avace917 no said he’s gangsta neither did he.
Every podcast be talking bout Pac lol..negatively or positive. That’s legendary fr 💪🏽
They do that for every great artist get off his dick
The thing is Tupac himself always said when he was younger he was quiet, withdrawn, and wrote poetry, Then even on the set of Gridlocked I think he said that he was a true Gemini. Somedays he is calm, quiet and actually pretty boring and other days he can be fun and dangerous (to himself and others). Why is it so hard for people to understand that people are not the same way all the time?
Ppl just don’t wanna accept the truth 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah and on weekends I'm Gay
You literally just described acting😂😂😂
@@DaddyMacs 😂😂😂
Pac tried his best not to come across as ignorant he left his baggage at home but even if he did come across effeminate he was raised by women and because of that PAC had a nurturing spirit
The. Pac ended up gettin the last bit of manhood he supposedly had taken out of him too 😂
Shit wasn’t true smh
@@youngtupac1971 and you going to get the last bit of manhood taken out of your twinkle bell ass!!
@@youngtupac1971 This must be puffy's burner.
@@MF-Rell burnbabyburn 🤣
The narrative is what needs to change (not just for the sake of Pac's image but for men in general) and Tupac once again is one of the greatest examples. The idea that he was "effeminate" because he was more in touch with his gentler, compassionate and expressive side literally represents where toxic masculinity in society is rooted from. That you can only gain the masses attention/respect through the forced lense/perspective of bravado, aggressiveness and macho posturing says more about what most wrongly view as being "masculine" than about Tupac's character.....
VERY WELL SAID!!!💯💯💯
Right it’s ok for a man to have a feminine side and still be masculine. Without being considered a homosexual.
@@AprilBanks-ry4pl It's literally impossible to not have one if you were raised by a woman. Believing to have one makes you soft or gay is the truest form of insecurity. Women obviously have to utilize their masculine energy at times in society, why would anyone assume men aren't even supposed to possess a feminine side?
Pac simply believed he could flip into what he might of seen as survival mode by playing a thug, a gangsta. My interactions with Pac when he was around my brother, my close friend Gregory AKA Shock G may you Rest In Paradise 🙏🏽 was definitely an effeminate individual. A soft hearted individual. After affiliating himself with Suge King is when he started to personify as a Gangsta and that's because he felt it was Survival Mode Time being around Suge Knight.. Pac was Millitant not Gangsta, Never That.
@@rebelzoriginal5763 As I always saw it from the man's own words, he wrote about certain narratives not to just come off as more "gangsta" but because it was the experience he saw many of the people who raised him and his peers going through and which effected him as well. In this world, there's not even masculine/feminine energies running things in the greater sense. Simple minds see it from that perspective. Getting down to the root of things, it's really straight up either higher/lower conscious, creative/destructive personalities making their marks in society today. It says a lot that Young Thug could hop on an album cover with a dress on but still be considered "a real one" by these kids now because he was once a for real killer while a fun loving, positive individual that isn't constantly thinking about murder/violence simply for the fuck of it comes off to people as being "effeminate." Someone please actually define to me what "effeminate" actually is because it's starting to seem like one of those things where you ask ten people and you get ten different responses....
I listen to Pac everyday. "Temptations" is my favorite track from him. Look, can we just please enjoy the music and memories Tupac Shakur left us with. Let the name and the man himself rest in peace.
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That’s my fav track till this day
I dont even listen to the albums. Pac has so much great unreleased material online, like: "Cant turn back, Biological, Dont go to sleep". I listen to those songs all day.
Mine too
The only problem with this is MJW didn’t know Tupac well enough for me to take what he’s saying for more than a grain of salt. If people that actually knew him past a few pool games said the same thing, then F it, it is what it is.
Thank you. He keeps referring to that one story of them playing pool. That’s clearly the only time they met
Alot of ppl said it tho
Wrong .^^^
Yall make 1000 excuses for Pac.. and even if truth be told its still is what it is.. we all like pac but let's keep it a buck
Dozens of people have said that about Pac throughout the years. Hell, there’s an article from 96’ (the one where says something like “I would fight someone in a courtroom if I felt disrespected”) where the journalist noted how Pac would drastically change his personality according to the various environments they were in that day. She said when he got around the Death Row crew, he switched into street mode.
Money B said he told pac the role was perfect for him. He said the role reminded him of 2pac. I'll listen to the people that know him.
Lmao.. Didn’t you just hear the man say they were friends and hung out together? This is not the first time he’s made that statement and btw everyone in that era including myself felt the same way during that time. You probably wasn’t even born in the early 90’s. Smh lol!
Delusional 😅 Pac wasn't a gangster.
@@shermricks7340 Mutah said Pac treated dude ass too so I could see why he said some sideways shit about him
@@shermricks7340 Yep, we all knew he was acting and many times overacting. Yet a lot of ppl continue making excuses for his foolishness, especially these younger folks who only know of Tupac via the internet.
@@datniggaeazye.5968 I’m not going off what dude said I was responding to the comment. I was saying Pac took on that character as Bishop myself back in the 90’s.
Im definitely not the same as I was at 17. We got a whole country full of kind people that grew hardened and bitter with age
There may be some truth to what is said in this video.
go ahead and watch his earliest interview. Before death row, early Digital Underground times. This man had the mannerisms of a feminine black female. From the way he said his words to the way he moved his hands and head when he talked. He was sweet fs bro. Nobody on earth can give you proof of who he slept with but he was definitely giving off the classic signs of homosexuality. Starts with the voice. Again… if PAC was gay.. who cares? Nothing wrong with him being gay. Why are y’all so defensive over it. Why is it so important that he’s straight? Lol .
@@fernandomaron87 His early interviews reminds me of my old school mate who was gay.
Bishop murdered all his childhood friends. How in the hell is that character like Pac!!!!!
Lol FACTS
@@greglewis1084 people forget the influence the Bay Area had on Pac
💯😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Exactly 😂
Mfs have no sense 😂😂🙄🙄
Everyone close to Pac all said that was always him, even before Juice. A lot of us have a duality. Pac was young and impressionable yes, but not one person close to him have ever said he was fake.
Tupac got shot 5 times etc went to jail been born into prison etc.. his life was not normal
The whole juice comparison is also stupid. Bishop was never a gangsta
Other ppl who knew Pac also said the opposite and he changed. Even dudes who love Pac have said he wasn’t the guy in the gang he came to be. He shouldn’t have been involved in that.
@@jasondawson92
Duality...when does it become bipolar
Tupac was young and evolving at a speed he needed to overcome his odds. Y’all don’t understand When your wise beyond your years you grow faster you move faster you do things ahead of your time. That’s why he’s a legend
wise beyond your years?? 2pac was being a fake thug, till he came across a real G and ended up getting dealt with that same night. Doesn't sound so wise to me, I mean driving around in the same town you just did some dirt in shows he wasn't a real thug. Because a real thug would of laid low after jumping Orlando. A real wise thug would of gotten the fuck out of dodge so ad to not get caught slipping. No real thug would of been driving around all out and about after jumping and jacking some hood n-gga.
it's funny to because even throughout all of his hardships in his life (mostly home related things) he stayed positive & wanted to be a positive role model... but once he got disrespected on the streets, he threw most of his morals away & lead the life of "only the strong survive".. though the motivation to inspire the future to positivity was always imbedded into his soul & you can see that from the music he made after became an artist..
go ahead and watch his earliest interview. Before death row, early Digital Underground times. This man had the mannerisms of a feminine black female. From the way he said his words to the way he moved his hands and head when he talked. He was sweet fs bro. Nobody on earth can give you proof of who he slept with but he was definitely giving off the classic signs of homosexuality. Starts with the voice. Again… if PAC was gay.. who cares? Nothing wrong with him being gay. Why are y’all so defensive over it. Why is it so important that he’s straight? Lol .
Everyone changes with time
Yep, Pac even talked about being in touch with his softer side bc raised by his mama. He even talked about girls saying he was TOO nice, dumping him,rejecting him, couldn't get a dance at clubs,etc. Then he got wise to FEMALE nature and how the world worked... THIS molded him into the Pac everybody was obsessed with.
@@jackiechun5817 even then a man can be more than one thing at a time. During that time he was trying to sell drug and living on the streets. People watch that interview like he gets up and goes back to a mansion or something. He was just well spoken. He was even like that as an adult.
And some people are just fake asf. Pac got more attention as Bishop then he did as 2Pac the rapper in 92. Thats why he created his "thug" persona
@@3rdGenerationCancer let me guess u are mexican
Yup!!!
Till this day, people still talking about him even when he’s gone
and be wrong as hell
@@AllThingsKen cuz you kno what’s right
And people still watching videos of people talking about him even when he’s gone
That's what Greatness is my fellow brotherman
Tupac is been dead a looong time, he had to had been an Extraordinary young man❤️❤️ They’re still talking about him!!!😊
Pac was a theater kid like Zack Efron in high school musical. Playing a role.
But he really did shoot 2 police to stop them from beating a man to death
This has got to be the longest interview in history. This has been going on for years now.
Lmao at all these people trying to defend him. He was a fraud plain and simple. And caused people lots of harm glamorizing that lifestyle
Only blk ppl
U got issues - but who the fk is u for anyone to care about ur hate, keep hardening your heart in this manner - which other "rapper" has classes on their impact? But you wouldn't know that he does - Google u fk
The end of the vid is so real. People always try to undermine the negative effects of gangster music and entertainment, just because it’s not always the sole influence for bad behavior.
Underrated post! MJW seems more disappointed in how Pac ended up more than anything.
AMEN 👏👏👏
For real
This kind of reminds me of how Vlad puts on a "blaccent" when he interviews some black guests, but when he interviews Steve Rifkind he's reverts to being a regular white guy 🤣🤣🤣
What got “gangsters” fucking with Pac was when he shot those two cops in the ass and strutted out of the courtroom. He was protecting a Black man. That’s who he was, has nothing to do with Bishop. If we’re being real, Bishop was a nut in the movie, he just so happen to have e a gun. Tired of these dudes running with this narrative about Pac like he was a fake dude.
he was fake as they come, he did go from that little effeminate nice kid who spoke highly of woman and loved poetry to the most gangsta guy who called woman bitches and talked about killing people within a few years . He was all over the place, some days he decided to go full sensitive poet, the next day he was talking about crime and murder. Very lost soul actually
Vlads entire RUclips come up was based on getting guests to hate on pacs credibility or comment on his own role in his demise.
This is so oversimplified it’s basically just hate. We all grow and emulate things and wear many masks. Pac was one of the goats and vlad ain’t shit. Jai White says treach and fat Joe the only rappers about that life and both respected pac immensely. White been low key hating on pac a long time too.
Exactly. Even Fat Joe says Pac is the realest rapper.
He’s literally a vulture
Pac was fake asf. Only wannabe thugs or wannabe gangsters actually believe Pac was who he portrayed to be. Pac was a art school kid that did poetry and ballet. Pac didnt have a thug bone in his body
He has an agenda against pac. I can see through this guy. Nothing but a culture vulture.
I never thought Pac was trying to be a gangster, more of a revolutionary.
Pac disappointed the real revolutionaries b4 him 😂
That’s the part you wanted to see. He died doing more all eyes on me and Makaveli and less Brenda has a baby
@@Bigfoot985 he was still on his Brenda's got a baby shit when he died
Lol ever listen to makaveli 😂yea real revolutionary 😂
@@datniggaeazye.5968 “that’s why I f*ck yo b*tch” “ my Fo fo make sure all y’all kids don’t grow”
This is gonna be real unpopular, but for decades i said this about tupac. I always said that one minute that guy acts all super tough, but if you watch him close he's real effeminate. Literally been saying that my whole life. You look at him that way, then you make the Jada/will smith connection, especially after that slap. Paints a different picture of tupac.
And that character he played? The so called bishop character. Literally influenced generations of black men. Sad when you really think of it.
right hes always been pushed.. nobody every quoted him always biggie
Say pac wasn’t will or even like will at all
Actually it was Tupac's time in northern california being homeless, hanging around pimps, street dudes, and drug dealers that gave him his rougher persona. The reason why he was even welcomed into Digital Underground is because Shock G wanted Tupac to keep the group in touch with the streets side of things. 2pac had also hooked up with many of the Bay area rappers like e-40, and the late mc breed r.i.p. this happened way before the movie "Juice", he was involved in. It was how he knew what energy to approach the character with. so the transition from tupac's more effeminate side to his more macho persona was really born on the streets of northern california, and put on steroids when he hit Los Angeles, and Death Row Records. He was actually in a gang in L.A., and it's really tatted on his stomach. I was a c/o in a california prison, and one inmate showed me a polaroid of 2pac in a house party over in the area of LA that I grew up in, and he was wearing the california love in the desert outfit. That thug life with the bullet symbol for the letter "I", is really a gang in L.A. A guy in the prison pointed it out to me the symbol on his own stomach. I get this information from the many 2pac documentaries that I
currently have. It's the same with Kemt, now called Egypt. The knowledge didn't start in Kemet, the nile flows to Kemet, and not the other way around. So all the information came to Kemet, just like everything ends up in New York.
Exactly. People just be talking
If you didn’t know him personally to confirm this it’s not valid
@@lord_cobi we don't know the majority of the people we talk about on the internet. we can only gather as much information as we can before we make an assessment. so it's all evaluation based on what information we've been privy to. You don't know anything you learned in history, but I bet you still talk about it, and the people who told you about history are lying for real for real, but I bet you believe what they wrote. probably believe in allah, or jesus, or christianity, or islam, but where's the proof?
@@RONALDMURPHY-vu8ue that’s fair
You’re saying knowledge didn’t start in Kemet, so where did it originate from?
Constantly speaking on a dead man shows what kind of character this guy has.....
they only do it with black stars, but this what happen when white people are in your culture they make something sus about one of ours to fit there twisted agenda.
he does not like pac and it shows
Y'alls fav rapper and rap royalty is gay. Y'all coping. Y'all gay.
He's right. He found a character type that was marketable in the entertainment industry at the time and he stuck with it. It ultimately killed him.
That's what it always felt like to me
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They would have killed him either way
He’s wrong lol he played juice in 1992 l. He got casted in juice in 1991 😂😂😂😂😂 in 1990 he was already on some shit.
Thank you! This is what it was, period.
We didn't have cellphones and internet back in the 90s, so it was easier for rappers to get away with all their lies, pushing a false narrative.
2pac said after going to prison, it made him worse. You knew me at 17, doesn't mean you could understand me at 23. Growth is the natural order of things, whether the growth is bad or to a detriment. 2pac said, this the way y'all made me.
Facts
Yeah, society made him portray this fake gangster super thug because people thought he wws soft. The women who like bad boys made him adopt this bad boy image because they said he was too nice. I see young Black males do this all the time, this hyper masculinity and it gets them killed everyday like Tupac. Fame is a motherfucka
Of course he got raped in rikers
Pac already changed before prison.
I've always hated the narrative that 2pac was a soft kid then pretended to be tough. You're telling me when a person gets shot, sent to prison, accused of rape, set up to be robbed and killed, a victim of police brutality he's suppose to be the exact same person when he was a 17 year old kid. So expirence, getting older, hard times, never effects how a person is.
These ppl clearly love participating in the "Tupac hate train"... they're probably creaming themselves right now😒😒😒💯💯
Hard times and getting over the hard times make the man or anyone picking one year out of someone’s life and talking about it it when they are another age in life is slow asf
Tupac was all of those things. It wasn’t a act, it’s who he was. All of these things
He wasnt a "thug"
@@Mrgood189 how you know? You was there?
@@djstewart5409 because real thugs arent performers, they arent on tv rapping and singing, they arent into the "arts".
Real thugs are professional criminals, something tupac wasnt. Tupac found out the hard way.
@@Mrgood189 so young thug wasn’t a thug cuz he was a rapper? What kind of logic is that
@@djstewart5409 🤣🤣🤣 this is when ed lover comes out with the "c'mon son"
It’s amazing to me how people in the comments are defending Pac who weren’t even alive when he was. That’s a hell of a legacy.
Yeah it’s called marketing lol. The industry used and abused him. The real question is who actually wrote the lyrics
I remember PAC said after "Juice," he wouldn't look away when people stared him down and would scrap / stand up for himself
Finally, someone else says it!
😂😂y'all have to listen to the real people who knew 2Pac. Even Marlon Wayans said he wasn't protraying anybody, that was apart of him, naturally. Research some of the old interviews/documentaries with people who grew up with 2Pac, they'll tell you Pac wasn't acting, that was apart of him period.
😂 no it wasn’t. He was feminine. For Christ sake he was in ballet. Fruit pop. He was the biggest poser.
@@deeznuts3145 "he was feminine" yet he was walking around beating hella niggas' asses and smashing half the girls in the industry
Pac was Hella soft when he was a teen
Exactly bro Vlad talks out of his ass and Michael Jai Whites perspective most times is scewed.
Marlon was just as susspect as pac was lol
That's not what Digital Underground said. They said Pac was wild before he was in Juice.
the thing is he interviewed money b, vlad has something about him where he when he believes something it does not matter rather its true or not he's going run with it.
VLAD seems to only retain negative things said about Pac
We’re all playing the character that we think we are
All young people transition. Is when they're trying to figure out who they are themselves. Doesn't make you your true self when you were a freaking teenager, so you're 100% correct.
It works the opposite for some other people they grew up really thugged out and then mature it want to be viewed as educated business people as adults. Teenage years are metamorphosis years. He wasn't raised around men and he learned to move like a man later.
@@goldenstatelawyer In the hood if you're 17 you are already yourself. He was that kid from the high school interview, the thug Pac was a persona.
MJW didnt know Pac before or during Juice. And didnt barely know him afterward. Everyone who know Pac before and during the Juice filiming. Including the director. Said Pac brought HIMSELF to that role. NOT the other way around.
I have been saying this about Pac for years
Don't hate on Jai White he makes a whole sense to me.
Yeah alot of people just being biased and coping. It literally makes sense like how most todays rappers are told to play gangster by managers to sell records
@@NeilSteel They hate MJW because deep down his truth telling exposes the Tupac Cultists for who they actually are. They would have NEVER held the same love and respect for the real Tupac. The person who they worship is "Bishop". A ridiculous, psychopath who ironically foretold the ultimate fate of the actor who couldn't stop portraying him.
When Tupac lived in Marin, he stayed in the projects an was a member of the local crew. He might not of been super gangster but he didn’t just wake up an decide to be that person like y’all assume.
The irony of it all is that the 17 year old Pac we see in that video was a Pac who was out in the streets living in the projects of Marin city and sold drugs for a week or so and hanging out with the local crew who were street dudes.
3:46 … lying asf , so now we saying PAC didn’t grew up in the hood 😂😂 Wtf is wrong with this people
the thing i don't get he interviewed the outlaw most of them grew up with him.
Exactly
Word he grew up in every hood. The man grew up in the Bronx/Harlem, Baltimore, MARIN CITY like wtf that’s all hoods and the worst ones too
@@Asvpsupreme again, i've seen everything there is to see about his life no where did anyone ever mention him being soft no one the most i heard about pac is that he had a big heart i heard he tried to sell drugs at one point but could'nt do it, thats probably the closet.
Say it to his face none of them outlaw Negas will have the courage to say it to his face
"I want to clarify the statement Michael Jai said on Vlad TV regarding Pac acting one way toward black people and another toward white people," he said on the Art of Dialogue. "The week before Pac died he was in New York and he was pissed. And I remember Michael Jai, he was a doorman at a hotel Pac was staying in, and he was like 'Yo, Pac what's up, where's the party at' ... and I remember Pac just turns around and snaps on him, 'Don't be asking me about no party, are you trying to set me up' ... that's the only time I can recall Pac being around the Michael Jai dude."
Napoleon
I don’t know why these people keep skipping over the fact that Pac was hanging out every day with real thugs from Richmond and Oakland for like 3 years straight before he ever played bishop. Vlad it’s a must you get Joseph Flowers on your show when he comes home
Let them keep yapping
These is SUCKAS. But Vlad should know about this if he really know about the bay.he should have knew how RICHMOND was rolling in the late 80s early 90s he should know how Oakland was getting down. Vlad a sucka
They’re envious
Got them cheeks took in prison and shot himself in the dick tho…
He did grow up in the hood his whole life. Smh. However he went to a magnet school and grew up in a household that stressed education
Pac and diddy was secret lovers
He used the character as a vessel to become a badass out for revenge. It was marketable, highly successful and most importantly the way he always wished he could see himself.
He was soft deep down, but he was a living Oscar performance in the flesh.
One of a kind!
But there have been others like him in human history.
Read about William H. Bonney Alias: Billy the kid…
Alter ego
@@juhgfdsapiyhhnnxc3517 Tupac made dat interview before he went to Oakland . Tupac had never been with real men or consistently with men so he quickly adapted Tupac was smart he could go anywhere the suburbs , the hood , and can get along with everyone
SNOOP, PAC, JAY Z, NAS, ICE CUBE, DR DRE ETC ARE CHARACTERS IN THEIR RHYMES. DON'T BELIEVE A GODDAM THING THEY SAY IN THE RAPS
I bet you wouldn't shoot two cops and on top of that my boi got acquitted.
Jay z was really in the street my guy
@DJ Trigga no jay hung around street guys
@@JamesHall415 no he was getting money he was rich… who the fuck you been listening to
MC Hammer was more gangsta than all of em😂
How are man saying he’s fake cos he weren’t how he was when he was 17?😂
Thank you! Also they’re referencing a school project he was interviewed for. That’s not him in a casual environment
@Zuri Frazier great point. You can tell pac was deliberately talking and acting that way. It's sad how so many people are jealous of him.
@@slip-n-rollboxing1826 you niggas are weird it's know pac was not a street dude but when he got with death row he start acting up
Wtf , he was literally fruuuuuuiiiiitttttyyyy,,, you don't become gangsta over night. 2 years after that he's 2pac , hahaa so true
@@ticesine6589 y'all internet thugs need to stop.
I honestly think Chris Brown goes through the same thing in 05-08 he was a smiley face r&b singer then around 2011 to now he became somewhat of a gangsta r&b singer
2pac wasn’t effeminate, he was an actor at heart. That means he could embrace different identities to play a character. That interview showed him trying to portray himself as a nice kid so that he could blend in with his peers at that Arts school. Michael Jai White knows this! By the way, Michael’s movie list history lists that he was cast in a movie named Chocolate City and he’s calling Pac effeminate? 😂
The excuses yall 2Pac fanboys are hilarious. Pac was very feminine. Pac was *NOT* acting during his high school interview. Yall 2Pac fanboys warp yall minds and continue believing this facade that 2Pac created.
So why is it hard to believe that how he portrayed himself after he met Suge wasn’t him playing a character? Trying to blend in with Suge & his Pirus?
@@versatillion15 he was playing a character, like nearly every rapper did back then and still now. He just did it better than anyone ever has. Which is why he’s the greatest!
@@marcc.m.1726 unfortunately that’s what led to him getting killed. Maybe you shouldn’t idolize people who play unnecessary characters
@@versatillion15 I don’t idolize any man! I can recognize great talent when I see it though, and if you don’t think Pac was one of the most talented entertainers from the last century, then you’re either a hater or just ignorant! You seem to know something about PAC’s history though so I’m assuming you’re just a hater.
Why everybody acting like the bishop character was odog. Bishop was a regular dude who got bullied until he snapped and killed one friend and tried to kill the others. Where in 2pacs life did he do all this?
Thank you. bishop is what kids call a incel today
Man stop pac wasn’t soft
@@ZYaKnoe249nah
FOH... Ain't nobody the same person they was at 17 life changes you... PAC was able to tap in to all his emotions at once... Just listen to his music... Love, hate, passion, anger, confusion, you name it... If you can feel it he touched on it so to say I saw him change after playing bishop... Is like saying Vlad changed since the Beef and smack DVD era... You dam right he changed nothing stays the same period
Tupac was a gay kid who was playing a acting roll
Why is it so hard for people to spell ROLE?!
Tupac comes from a revolutionary bloodline🙏🏿
Some people grow in life, some stay the same and others go backwards.
Fax speak the truth out here
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"There's alot of Real G's doing time, because a Groupie bent the truth and told a lie. " Tupac Forever
Tupac grew up in the Bronx, Harlem and Baltimore during the 70’s and 80’s. If you think those aren’t “The Hood” (Especially Baltimore) then you need a reality check.
When he said that shit that is when I knew it was time to turn that mess up. Even Shock G said he was practically raised by pimps and prostitutes in California.
@@MrsSmith-cs7li yeah what was MJW talking bout. He was definitely poor growing up.
@@MrsSmith-cs7li he was referring to his household not the cities or neighborhoods
Right? Being poor and living in 3 of the most dangerous states in the country during that time period… what delusion
Facts
Really interesting....2 guys who didnt really know Pac...talking about how well they knew what Pac was...all the people who knew really knew Pac all pretty much speak the same way about him. Bishop didn't change him...and as far as that interview...MJW couldn't have watched the entire interview. He grew up...we all change growing up. But even watching that interview, you can see Pac was the same guy.
Let me SQUASH all this shit for yall! Tupac did not become a gangsta after playing Bishop. That role was not even meant for Pac. That script was for Rapper Money -B from Digital underground.. the movie company wanted him to try out for the part and when Money B read it he said man this Bishop character reminds me so much of Pac and he gave the script to Pac and told him to go try out for it and he did and got the role. So this debunks the that whole theory of Pac turning gangsta after the role. He was already Bishop.His true friends knew how Pac was
Damn, The 2pac Hive won’t like this video. 🍿
Nope 😂😅
They are actually butterflies flocking around their goddess pac 😂
This guy never been wrongly accused or convicted for crimes he's never committed. Never been betrayed, robbed, and shot by his own ppl. How can he judge someone who's been through all of that? And he didn't know pac like that.. Rip Tupac
Did you know Tupac?
@@MrRenardnixon for the record he didn’t say he did but spoke on what has been ascertained.
@@3800ThaBizz did you know Tupac?
@@MrRenardnixon speaking from things he mentioned boss… and you?
All you mentioned is the choice that PAC put himself in, his own aunt said best “you didn’t come from that, how did you get there” . Stop with ‘who really knew pac’, you are fan that just know him thru his music. MJW was
Speaking from actually meeting and hanging with guy.
I’ve been saying this for alil minute now and people still defend him like they don’t wanna hear the truth like it really be hurting them emotionally deep over a fake 1 he was a ballerina high school watch all his interviews when attended HS before becoming famous they all just simply make him Mr. Suss!!!!!!!
Bro and that photo shoot at death row in the tub where old dude was feeling up on him
That was disrespectful Af. Just because he didn’t walk around shooting shit up doesn’t mean he was effeminate. He just went through more shit as he got older and didn’t take no bs. Ppl always say Pac had a wildside even before the fame.
Fr I like mjw and Vlad is ok but they sound full of it on this clip neither one really knew that man , because you played pool with him a few times didn't make y'all best homies
@@gcforreal exactly
No, he was saying 2pac was effeminate in his interview at 17. Which he was. Look at it and tell me it ain’t effeminate. I don’t like Michael Jai White, but he’s telling the truth here.
@@sparrowprince3432 effeminate means characteristics of a women bruh the man didn’t act like a woman . Just because he didn’t yell or call women bitches didn’t make him effeminate smh
@@sparrowprince3432 he can’t be telling the truth on the account of him not knowing Tupac. His only experience with him is at a pool game that man is full of it. 17 he witnessed policed brutality, someone stabbed to death, his mother on crack his role models where streets. The man even sold crack for a period of time til he realized it fucked up his community. Pac was always the same he just grew up angry. Angry and gangsta ain’t the same thing like how y’all view it to be. The man was a tough soldier not a gangsta
2pac gave more awareness to hardships through music than movies.
well, he had more creative control with the music than he did with the movies
Lots of “feelings” hurt with this one. 😅
Pac was rocking eyeliner in that interview at age 17 with a single right earring and a limp wrist. Queen Latifah admitted they went to gay club together where he took his shirt off. The weird pictures online of him in bed with Money B. The photoshoot in the tub where Papa G is salivating and rubbing all up on him. This yall hero?? Smh 🌈
@@Bone_youtube_soft Cap Pac must’ve had your mammy. And everything you’re yapping about is Cap🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@saucejames2349 it's all on the Internet. I don't type just to type.
@@Bone_youtube_soft you literally just typed just to type clown. You’re just another one of these RUclips clowns trying your hardest to push that propaganda about Pac that will never succeed.You’re fasho a limp wrist tho 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is so out of context. He was there to support Queen Latifah because she was performing there and they were close like brother and sister and also with the same label. She didn’t say nothing about him going there because he was sus. This was like a one time thing.
EVERYBODY says this cuz of that one video pac did as a Freshman in high school as a dancer. Fact is AFTER that while still a teenager he moved to Cali for the first time as a Teen. Most people wasnt gangsta at 13-14 and LOT of growing smd shxt hsppens between 15-18yo.
mofo be hatin... I think pac fuqqed his b in the 90s
nigga mad cuz Pac changed his voice for some HS production/interview and holding it against him in death 😂🤣😂🤣😭😭😭😭
He was 17-18 when that interview came out
The funny thing is if people really study that interview of him at 17 they ll see that Pac already had a tough mindset. How many 17 year old's talk like that? Pac was always the same he just got older
@@SmithJackson-y3k I actually see a young kid flirting with the older interviewer while trying to show his intellect. She is probably an attractive woman so it's coming across innocent and childlike.
Tupac said in court that he was acting as a rapper to get money
True for everyone. I am a mush around my kids but should anyone threaten them I would rip their lungs out. We all have sides to us.
@@Reservoirdogtv stay away from my children! 😂
That was one of the best analysis of Tupac's persona that I have ever heard.
Pac was gay🌈
Wow good thing PAC told his own story. It's always some hater coming out trying to tell someone else's story like they grew up with them and know their whole life story like a book.
Tupac was literally the best actor ever, he played out a gangster role his entire life till he passed. Also he did some theatre work at Baltimore performing arts school also Ballet
He was homeless, Drug addict parent i don't see how he was fake
@@BattleTruth His whole demeanor in the high school interview is of a gay man, then he becomes the hardest thuggish guy, it was obviously an act.
@@fernandomaron87 It's been 30 years since his death and he's still talked about. When you die no one will care.
Not enough people talk about this... that ballerina thing is what made me throw out all my pac cds.
I've been saying it for years. His whole image came from that movie. Before that he was different.
That isn’t true at all you don’t know his history at all
So why did dude from digital underground say Pac was more wild before bishop than after they said he actually was more chill after that part.. these come from people that was actually around before Juice..
This is true. It reminds me of the story of Zach de La Rocha of Rage Against the Machine. Listening to him rap or reading through his lyrics you'd think that he was a guerilla soldier fighting the powers that be within the hills of Bolivia by the time he was 10 when in reality he grew up in an upper middle class white neighborhood in Irvine, CA as a skateboarder kid
Lies !!! I’m from Baltimore . PAC DEFINITELY grew up in the Hood !!!!
Mr white speaking factz
Biggie also said that Tupac was always shooting at somebody or somebody was shooting at him. These haters love to say Pok was acting. Pat was a guy from the street who had an itchy trigger finger.
Pac had Palmolive hands enough tht he didn't know how to throw actual hands lol
@@youngtupac1971 yet he was beating mfs assess left and right
@@datniggaeazye.5968 "assess"? 🤣 you lost...hold this L keyboard funboyy lol
@@datniggaeazye.5968 who did he beat up by himself? Like one on one?
I think the bigger conversation is adolescence black men in the hood realize early on that being a gangster or having some of those qualities is the only way your accepted in certain communities
I wouldn't use the term effeminate but he was in touch with his emotions which is cool cause everybody got emotions. His homie from way back said it was after some cops beat him up and he got a gun that he decided to fight back, which is logical cause i ain't warring against nobody with guns with my hands. Pac always had those feelings of standing up against those who tried to play him. If you follow his life closely you can see that when he was young he got taken advantage of so i understand him not giving af about other people's feelings when he was able to hold his own
well I'm a big big big 2pac fan, and when I saw the interview of him at 17, effeminate, is the first thing came to my mind, really it was an even worse word that I thought of, but hey, I'm still his number one fan.
@@RONALDMURPHY-vu8ue and factually it aint nothing wrong with him being like that. He wasn't fully grown so him being raised without his dad may have influenced that. But we all noticed a change after the movie Juice. Maybe he just started to act out what was already in him
@@RichieB40444 Tupac when he was living in northern california shot 2 plain clothed white police officers who he thought was harassing a black man. That's even before
his Digital Underground days. Juice was just a movie.
This speaks to how much we as black people code switch within our own communities
Code switch to talk more feminine? You do that?
@@versatillion15 Ignorance gets you nowhere bro.
@@aaroniic tell yourself that no need to make excuses for men you’ve never met
@@versatillion15 Black people code switch. I never mentioned that I do that. I’m saying many of us when we get around a specific group we change how we talk and act. For example, we talk one way around white people and another way around those in our neighborhoods.
@@versatillion15 If you wanna have an intelligent conversation we can but if you wanna just throw out accusations from a place of ignorance then i’m gone
It’s sad that a black man can only be one way. Even our own people think we can’t be versatile.
I agree but this topic is where people had a problem with MJW saying it's like bro. You barely knew the guy. You only met him a few times and you're calling this man. effeminate?! Lol
@@flyguy7825And how many times have the people in the comments met him? Lol
@@doshpoles Not sure but to assassinate this man's character like that who ain't around to defend himself is 🙄🤡
Kudos for Michael for speaking the truth. Sick of these Tupac fangirls sucking him off
As someone who grew up in the 90s as a white kid listening to hardcore rap, I remember when Bone thugs first came out, I remember when the Chronic 1 album came out, I remember when Doggystyle came out, I remember when All eyes on me came out, I remember when Eminem first came out. These were highly influencing music albums that affected the youth of the culture. And yet we idolize these fake gangsters
Go read an article called ‘The secret meeting that changed hip hop forever’
It's true! Jada said it too! Pac wasn't a "thug" when they were in high school. Pac was an artist and a performer. Jada was the one who was "in that life" at the time, and she admits that as she was coming OUT of that street life, Pac was heading INTO it....
To be honest, Tupac seemed more mature at 17 , being himself, than he did at 25 trying to be a gangbanger.
At 25 he talked about Politics and the books he was reading
Yall have selective hearing and only focus on his image and the drama