Comparing some one from their age of 17 to the age of 25 after that person had been shot 5 times robbed ,sent to jail for NO REASON. sold millions of records and to think they would be the same person at 25 that they were at 17 is ABSOLUTE LUDACRIS.
2pac was just like you. Intelligent, Innocent, and educated at an early age. Naive and ready to change the world. Then got a dose of the real world and adapted to his environment. The rest is history.
Pac was an anomaly. He was everything at once. That’s what made him great. From dear mama to hit ‘em up and everything in between. Nothing to apologize for. RIP to the 🐐
2pac did what they did in Alabama before they did it, he didn't that chyt in ATLANTA when he popped them 2 cops for beating a brother but you got stupid muh phuhgas who wanna say he wasn't a gangsta. Name me ONE OTHER RAPPER WHO DID SOME CHYT LIKE THAT. Phuhg these muh phugas 2pac was the REALEST
2pac cried when he heard about “Brenda”, Yummy, Latasha literally shed tears and the same man lashed out without fear on mfs that wronged him..police, rappers, CEOs, gangstas whoever..He was just a different breed..
It’s not even just Pac. Are we all forgetting about how many people we grew up with in Middle School and High School that we see on the news and be like “damn I would’ve never thought xyz would do some shit like that!” That’s life. You don’t necessarily “become something you’re not”, maybe you grow out of what you were programmed to be and become who you really are.
Pac was a product of his environment. Depending on where he was at or who he was around he would speak softly or loudly, be courteous or rude asf, empathetic or not give af. This trait is what made him so adaptable. Most people can’t adapt and don’t know how to act. Michael Jai White being one of them.
It seems like it’s one of those thing to where if you like the person then it’s “being adaptable”, but if you don’t like the person then it’s “they’re being fake”. I’m not saying you specifically, I’m just referred to the double standards of people in general.
These niggas be squares. They so out of touch with a life they are infatuated with that they never actually lived that they think street niggas are tough 24/7 no matter who they are around.
Michael Jai White shouldn’t have said that. He had to know it would offend people and Tupac is not here to defend himself. That man passed away in 1996… let him rest
I dont see anything wrong in what he said. We all exhibit different characters at different times. Its stupid and dangerous remaining "hard" when you should be soft
But what if it’s true? We talk about the good and bad of so many other historical figures who passed away, so why should we be selective about stories when it’s about Pac?
Michael Jai White is someone who thinks he's smarter than what he actually is. Who tf is the same person at 17 and stays that way? White started his career off as an extra in the damn Ninja Turtle movie..the second one. Smdh
@@codeinecowboy8607 Facts Orlando was 16 shootin up house parties and cop cars at McDonalds drive thrus, Tutupac was 17 doing ballet and acting zesty 💅🏽 smh
I would consider that 17 year old 2Pac and the one who was around Michael Jai White as the version of 2Pac who let his guard down. I can't speak for others but one of the greatest reliefs I've ever felt was when I transferred from the ghettos of Miami and went to college in Tallahassee (FAMU) and was able to not worry about getting tried or robbed every day. There's a heightened sense of aggressiveness that comes from being in the hood which influences the way you carry yourself because you can't look like food on the streets. If you find yourself in a "safe" environment you may find yourself becoming not as aggressive because you don't have to be.
EXACTLY. I was street kid since like 9. My first time in a university from getting a high score on my ged, it shocked me being around black kids and I didn’t have get tough with them. I was able to let my guard down n have fun. They lived completely different lives than me. They bc were shocked when I told I had beef back home waiting for me so this is like a vacation. One of the best experience in my life that help mold me beyond a street mindset. Came back home thinking different and my old homies couldn’t understand
In my opinion, Tupac's current environment (whatever that was at that place in time) molded him to be who he NEEDED to be... And there's nothing wrong with that! 💯💯💯
Michael jai the brother that said he can beat up Bruce Lee, I lost respect for him from that..now when it comes to Pac we all know he was an intelligent brother so we wouldn't expect him to act crazy or unpolite in his first interview, which he quit his job in order to be there.
@saynomo6168 you as dumb as him, you fail to understand its a matter of respect, for someone that opened doors for most of the martial artists. He ain't here to defend himself.
@@saynomo6168exactly🤣 MJW is the best martial artist in the world. Twice the size of Bruce Lee and probably just as fast, if not VERY close as Bruce Lee. MJW wins imo
It was Bruce Lee who brought martial arts to the fore front and the western world. If it wasn't for Bruce Lee, nobody in the western world would know how to fight using martial arts. Bruce changed the movies business. Today action movies are using martial arts because Bruce Did it first. Nobody was using martial arts in the movies or anywhere in the western world. Bruce even had a fight against someone, in the studio he had in Oakland, because the Chinese in China was mad that he exposed a secret fighting skill. That's even documented in films. So, MJW need to give his props to Bruce and understand that he (MJW) wouldn't know martial arts if it wasn't for the Legendary Bruce Lee. And, we all know MJW wouldn't even be in the "low budget" movies (B movies) if he wasn't using martial arts.
Michael J is ignorant. PAC was an adaptable chameleon who blended into his different environments accordingly. He was passionate, sensitive, altruistic, sympathetic, and understanding, but could also get mean, rude, and violent with the snap of a finger and a flip of a switch. He treated you how you treated him and was cultured and intelligent enough to speak on any subject with anyone in any room at any given time. I’m the same way
Did 2 drop out and kill his killer? Nope . Aint nobody do shitttttt for him . And he didnt know they were cops . I bet if they had a uniform he wouldn't have did shhittttt
@@JMS849 there’s footage of Pac from 1995 stopping to film these uniformed cops who stopped a black man in a traffic. He didn’t escalate it like he did with those off-duty cops. Pac was brave but he wasn’t dumb.
😂😂 people stupid asf just cause Pac had a chill side don’t mean Pac didn’t have a tuff, hell if you piss the nicest person off enough watch how that person transform
@@fruitpac implying that someone is jealous of Pac is their favorite defense mechanism against someone saying things that challenges the image they have of Pac.
Michael Jai White is absolutely correct. Sorry about that I met 2Pac before He did the movie juice and then I mseen a Knigge to years later. Complete change I’m from the streets and I’m from the hood. He was never Street in Nigga and he was never a gangster. I grew up with gangsters and I grew up with street Nigga’s And he was not it he went to acting school and he fooled you guys.😅 he studies ballet poetry and dances! Yeah he was not that Gangster he acted like.
Okay what Micheal Jai White said was what he personally witnessed. Also the person he exposed himself to. When he said feminine he could be saying that him being raised by woman he displayed more softer behaviors. That’s all.
Michael Jai White is the most polite hater…he knows the fight game in theory and he’d beat up the average man but I think his hate comes from him feeling weak that he never really proved himself to the world on an elite level. But hear him talk he’s always portraying how tough he is
Mjw always talk about Pac in a condescending way it seems. What does another man personality have anything to do with him, at the end of the day Pac will always be 1 million times more significant than him in this earth.
Because you gotta act different in different occasions. There’s a time and place for everything, you talk to your mother a different way, when you conduct business you conduct as a business man , when you’re in the hood you act hood , when you’re around your preppy friends like Michael jai white you act accordingly. PAC just knew how to get to your level
When I was 12, I was very gentle, I wanted no problems with people, and at 13 I broke and started fighting for my honor. Life changes people. Not to say that Tupac is mega gansta, he became harder as years progressed.
it's crazy how people hate on tupac because he literally is the biggest ever....and they know that tupac at 25 created it.....and all these people are old now and in theirs 50s and none of them will ever have murals and an impact like tupac did.....
He raised from his mama, no father. Copies the role model figure. Common sense. Then u grow it up a bit and find yourslef more and more as the way you like it. First you formed by yo family, then from your surroundings. Easy.
I mean, to be fair, Pac's persona in that video is a COMPLETELY different version of what he was before he died. The one thing about that interview and the rest of them is that he always spoke passionately and and genuinely about what he thought and how he felt.
He even said that in the MTV base interview that he was different when he was younger, that the money and the fame gave him confidence to be himself, Pac told us all these things we don't need to be filled with lies from Michael Jai white, If you search deeply enough you would know the reason why pac did some things he did
Crazy thing about that interview is that Pac's mom was dealing with addiction and Pac was going through serious poverty at the time he even dropped out school shortly after that interview. You're not gonna go through those levels of trials and tribulations and it not harden you. Money B Ray Luv, Shock G all speak to how Pac was before the role of Bishop was even offered to him
Pac went thru hell in marin city n it changed him. On the doc thug immortal, the guys out there were bullying pac n pac was outspoken so he had to back up everything. N he was homeless living couch to couch n in shelters for years.
@@Q.B.2.L.B. maybe maybe not but the circumstances were different...in Harlem n Baltimore he was going to school n he was up under his mom n his aunt n his sister. In Marin City he was homeless n broke n living couch to couch with nothing constructive like school or a job going on...maybe the music....he was out there with no support system n nothing but time on his hands n he was a young bol....that would change anybody...
I always notice that the dudes who hate on or criticize pac always seem very insecure about the unappealing personalities that they were born with..... just be you.
Pac was real until the end thats why they still talk about him more than any other rapper alive or dead who cares if you a gang memeber or not that still dont make you a man or a real one
2pac put his career and life on the line to save a black brother on the side of a dark road in Atlanta from possibly getting beat to death and he literally POPPED 2 off-duty cops and that was REAL CHYT. 2pac did what all the brothers in Montgomery Alabama did BEFORE THEY DID IT but you got stupid muh phuhgas who wanna say he wasn't a gangster but they praise people for beating somebody with a folding chair. GET THE PHUHG OUTTA HERE. 2pac is THE REALEST RAPPER THAT EVER LIVED. PERIOD. Shout out to Spice 1 for holding down 2pac💪🏿
I love Pac, but I’ve been saying this since 93-94, and probably before that. His mannerisms and everything was straight effeminate, like he could’ve been straight, but he was raised around a whole bunch of women. Go watch those clips MJW’s talking about. He’s not talking down on Tupac. He’s just making an observation.
2pac is nice and professional when he wants to be,2pac was kind of feminine because he grew up around strong women he says it in his documentary,2pac wasn't soft,he stood for something,if he was your friend he had your back,his music is timeless,you can tell when he rap he means what he says,2pac can be negative but he also can be positive
When you're raised by a single mom you tend to pickUp some of her traits ..."I ain't a Killa but don't push me revenge is like da sweetest joy next to gettin pussy" don't seem effeminate to me Long Live Makaveli Da Don💯😎💨💨👍💪
Tupac is a gemini. He had multiple personalities. Tupac could adapt in any environment. What we saw from Tupac is who he is. He's all of that. Thus dude Mike must got some personal issues with pac or sumn.
No disrespect to the Drakes, Lil Durks, NBA youngboy the Kendrick Lamars.... but when they die I highly doubt their name will live as long as Pac's have. The definition of the GOAT
Pac said it himself and numerous people agree. He was a Gemini with two sides. There's the Brenda go a baby, poems for jada side. Then there's the hit em up, ghost, dark side to him. What made him change more to the latter was seeing people not support him during the rape allegation and laughing behind his back when he was robbed
The things pac went through from 17 onwards made him more ruthless not his role in juice. Pac spoke different when hood people came around him and Michael jai white because he was just speaking another language, people do it every day at work
People forget 2pac was a thespian. Michael Jai white is pointing out that he switched his character to suit the situation. He wasn't disrespecting him.
@@machomusprime50but yet no one has ever confirmed they were friends or ever hung out. But mutah did say pac popped off on mike when he worked at a hotel🤷🏾♂️
@@its_rick_james_bich2575 nah i mean Tupac was a gangster, same thing to me. He was a real g, he would shoot someone without a problem if someone tried to rob him or kill him or something like that. He had no fear and would protect others. He didnt let someone abuse him or something, he was a tough guy
@@ivanicabratulic9297 so if someone tried to kill you, and you had a gun..would you not defend your life with lethal force? A middle aged woman with would probably do that! That doesn’t make them or you a gangster! Gangsters don’t abide by societies rules..and will do whatever they can to make their money..often illicitly. They will kill to protect themselves, their money and their turf! Most aren’t afraid of prison. Although no doubt, some break codes and snitch! Your interpretation and understanding of “gangsta” and actual gangsters is not the same!
The thing MJW didn't understood, Pac grew up among mostly women, Afeni, Aunt Gloria, Sister Set, he had some male figures but at that time he was with mostly women, that's why he acted like that, but he grew to find his own identity without forgetting the values he got from them!
Pac did it all he was a ladies man, he said he tried to sell drugs b4 said he didn’t like that a poet he was articulate smart in school so ppl develop 💯
If you saw the interview of 2PAC that he is talking about, you know EXACTLY what he means. He didn't mean Tupac was "gay", he is saying the early 2PAC was faaaaar from a "Thug". Even Jada (who I am not a fan of, but she KNEW him early on) cosigns that! He was an "artist" a "dancer" a "Philosopher"... not a "thug". I think S[ice 1 called it correctly though..
Most black men will look at MJW’s take on Tupac and call it hate 😂😂😂😂 he is praising Pac for his artistry and giving his opinion on his portrayal of a hood nigga. The version of Pac we should look up to was Pac the artist, the philosopher, the visionary. Not Pac the degenerate street nigga that got gunned down in Vegas.
People who are one way all the time, don't understand those of us who've been outside and off the porch since we were children. We learn to adapt to our environment, those who don't have that ability, choose to see us as "phoney" but we're not, we just are whoever we have to be when we have to be it. Can't believe Michael is trying to make Pac out to be a phoney. 🤡
Been saying this for years swear on everything he took that character bishop created thug life and millions bought into it and that's what everybody fell in love with and he fooled everyone to believing he was a thug a fake thug good actor and rapper tho
Defiant till the end 🙄 "There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true." -Soren Keirkegaard
So, MJW is talking about the same guy who, in the studio infront of all the people he was trying to "portray" tough to put on a wig pretending to be Rick James? Sounds like the same guy. People grow and change, because MJW has a difficult time understanding and or being a dynamic human doesn't then equate to dynamic humans being actors.
@@Q.B.2.L.B. says the ignorant person, where are the excuses? Everything I said was simple logic, you don't have to agree with it but if you aren't in your feelings you would be able to comprehend it. If you want to have a discussion, then have at it but to waste your time to display your ignorance paints you as a 🤡
Exactly, it's the same for Bow Wow. People wanted him to stay the cute innocent kid he was. Eventually, he had to grow up one day and become the person who he wanted to be. And he got hate for it.
Some folks will idolize 2pac forever... I liked him but jai white came to the same conclusion I did on my own observations...pac was fronting a lot of the time
What makes you think it was a front? Pac had different sides to his personality. He had a lot of anger and fearlessness from his upbringing by actual revolutionaries in the Black Panther Party and Black Liberation Army. And he grew up in the ghetto in NY and Baltimore right when crack hit the streets. And he also had a poetic and contemplative side, a soft-spoken side. Go and watch an interview of Huey Newton, and really listen to him speak. You would probably never guess that somebody who is that soft-spoken and shy would also be brave enough to shoot down police, or build a movement for the revolutionary overthrow of the US government.
Like when he shot two drunk corrupt off duty cops in the buttocks and got away with it? In a single act gaining more street cred than any rapper in history, since the rest just shoot at their own people eh. People thinking he was fronting was the exact reason he went all out to the predicted outcome. You fools still didn't learn the lesson though. Keeping it real to the prison or grave, usually both.
@nasty.nelson he didn't know what he was doing as far as them being cops and it really does nothing to change the observations in question- an effeminate man saw an opportunity to fire a gun at some guys with their back turned to him... nothing Rambo about it just an opportunist who actually did a good thing with shooting the cop in the butt... but this isn't a testimony to his courage at all... He was fronting and that's what made him go all out to the predicted outcome as you put it. He put his hands on a real loc and got leaked on Tropicana blvd with his blood homie.... facts
@newdimensionjt3452 Well I have been around Tupac at a club and saw how he was moving, so speak what you know. Did I interact, no, I'm not a groupie, nor am I claiming to have known him. Michael Jai White is constantly being contradicted on his analysis of Tupac by people who knew him much, much longer and more in depth. I'd take their word over somebody who simply played pool with Pac once or twice 🤣
@@baustin8281 Then how come he never said anything when 2pac was alive . Massa please the amount of pressures that 2pac have been dealing with since his child hood please Micheal Jai white been facing until his death please much jai white could not go through that ok. 2pac was only 25 and he was still growing and learning so how the fuk Micheal have the gut to judge. Fuk Micheal Jai white he cannot even fight in real life besides fighting. 2pac from the street but Micheal is not but a preppy.
There's pics of tupac holding a man's hand with the full lovers grip (deathow era), and him on the floor in front of his homie who had his pants by his ankles with a group of dudes, on beds topless wrapped up together, that ballet school video with him & jada pinkeis embarrassing, plus he was VERY feminine & clearly over compensated with exaggerated masculinity & accentuating the bass in his voice, european females used to laugh at him in the 90s tbh! They saw what we didn't at the time-in uk u got laughed at for listening to him no joke!
Anybody acting tough 24/7 is actually the one playing a role. The craziest dudes I've met are also some of the funniest.
Comparing some one from their age of 17 to the age of 25 after that person had been shot 5 times robbed ,sent to jail for NO REASON. sold millions of records and to think they would be the same person at 25 that they were at 17 is ABSOLUTE LUDACRIS.
Big Facts!!! 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾💯💯💯
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You don't have to go through them things to change... people grow up as they age, nd they thoughts and feelings can change with age
@@quanbrooklynkid7776 exactly. The man wasn't even old enough (back then at that time) to even smoke cigarettes or drink for that matter.
Jealousy is a terrible disease Michael Jai White.
2pac was just like you. Intelligent, Innocent, and educated at an early age. Naive and ready to change the world. Then got a dose of the real world and adapted to his environment. The rest is history.
nope hes still alive. And killing niggaz. Pac is a Killer.
He killed Biggie
@@MakavelithePrince96Tupac was dead before Biggie was killed
I got a lotta love for Spice 1.. his loyalty is admirable 💯
delusional
@@fruitpac Very
But Spice 1umb is the prime example of a ignorant mf
@@fruitpaclol
he never answered the question
Pac was an anomaly. He was everything at once. That’s what made him great. From dear mama to hit ‘em up and everything in between. Nothing to apologize for. RIP to the 🐐
Great explanation! Very true!
2pac did what they did in Alabama before they did it, he didn't that chyt in ATLANTA when he popped them 2 cops for beating a brother but you got stupid muh phuhgas who wanna say he wasn't a gangsta. Name me ONE OTHER RAPPER WHO DID SOME CHYT LIKE THAT. Phuhg these muh phugas 2pac was the REALEST
Facts 💯💯💯
Agree 👍🏽
Exactly
2pac cried when he heard about “Brenda”, Yummy, Latasha literally shed tears and the same man lashed out without fear on mfs that wronged him..police, rappers, CEOs, gangstas whoever..He was just a different breed..
Only Real Thugs Cry💯💯.
Exactly
“JESUS WEPT…” PAC WAS OUR BLACK JESUS 💯🙏🏿
@@UncElroyDaKang Blasphemy
@@LouiHimDuncan ANOTHA ONE OF MAKAVELI’S CLASSIC TRACKS 🙏🏿
People aren’t one dimensional. People are dynamic and have multiple sides to them. How is that so hard to understand?
This is the typical illogical excuse you 2Pac fanboys use defend how fake the dead ballerina was.
Pac kept switching up making real street thugz look bad
@@fruitpacHow is that statement in any way illogical?
@@Rony-L You wouldn't understand 2Pac fanboy
@@fruitpac Ah. Thanks for confirming you’re just a troll with no actual life.
It’s not even just Pac. Are we all forgetting about how many people we grew up with in Middle School and High School that we see on the news and be like “damn I would’ve never thought xyz would do some shit like that!” That’s life. You don’t necessarily “become something you’re not”, maybe you grow out of what you were programmed to be and become who you really are.
Facts shout out to my nigga Blood Cuz he didn't know which side he wanted to be on so he picked both lol
That’s a good answer, people grow and stuff changes simple.
We all have an innocent side and a bad side some people just have to go thru some stuff to bring out that certain side
Pac was a product of his environment. Depending on where he was at or who he was around he would speak softly or loudly, be courteous or rude asf, empathetic or not give af. This trait is what made him so adaptable. Most people can’t adapt and don’t know how to act. Michael Jai White being one of them.
A true Gemini
Yep indeed
It seems like it’s one of those thing to where if you like the person then it’s “being adaptable”, but if you don’t like the person then it’s “they’re being fake”. I’m not saying you specifically, I’m just referred to the double standards of people in general.
@@jeanmichele3843facts
I have the same opinion 💯💯💯
It's called code switching. I was a different person at church as opposed to when i was outside.
These niggas be squares. They so out of touch with a life they are infatuated with that they never actually lived that they think street niggas are tough 24/7 no matter who they are around.
Ain't nothing fake about it. Unless in general you're a fake & not about your surroundings & want to tap out. It's a slide slope when it comes to it.
Dumb people won’t get it..dats why I don’t pick up the phone when they call me
You switch to acting gay? What
@@kjo2130 you're clearly slow.
I will always love and respect people who never switch up. Loyal friends/people are rare now a days.
Gay
The scariest dudes are the ones that are able to hide their dark side. You think that they’re all friendly and stuff but they’re actually dangerous af
That’s how smart dummies get corrected by playing stupid games only to win stupid prizes..live n learn
Or us Quiet ones
For certain
Michael Jai White shouldn’t have said that. He had to know it would offend people and Tupac is not here to defend himself. That man passed away in 1996… let him rest
So if he was around he would beat up Michael that's what you saying
I dont see anything wrong in what he said. We all exhibit different characters at different times. Its stupid and dangerous remaining "hard" when you should be soft
Defend himself from what??
It's true, because Pac tended to take on others demeanor and personalities that he surrounded himself around.
But what if it’s true? We talk about the good and bad of so many other historical figures who passed away, so why should we be selective about stories when it’s about Pac?
The only difference between a die hard Pac fan and a die hard Pac hater is the fan admits how much they love Pac
No they don't. They leave out that they are attracted to the guy
Grow up
@legion4919 we all kids here, non of us is grown up.
Bingo
Pull up your pants, homeboy
What people dont understand Tupac was an extreme empath and he would take on some of the characteristics of who he is spending time with
If thts the case, then hiz queen did a p00r job raising him 😂
Wait a minute,,taking on characteristics of others is a narcissist thing.. although I believe indeed he was a empath
Tupacs characteristics is sharing the same clothes as all the women he allegedly messed wit 😂
He took on the characteristics of the woman he raped?
@@vashonberry1597That can be true but not always.
Michael Jai White is someone who thinks he's smarter than what he actually is. Who tf is the same person at 17 and stays that way? White started his career off as an extra in the damn Ninja Turtle movie..the second one. Smdh
Nobody stay the same I was different at 17 then I was at 25 he act like life don’t change you
Im sorry i don’t see how you go from a 17 year old ballerina to a 20 something year old so called gangsta rapper
Real gangsters were gangster when they were 13 and when they turn 30
@@codeinecowboy8607 Facts Orlando was 16 shootin up house parties and cop cars at McDonalds drive thrus, Tutupac was 17 doing ballet and acting zesty 💅🏽 smh
Tupac should've learned how to be masculine and tough from.mjw
I would consider that 17 year old 2Pac and the one who was around Michael Jai White as the version of 2Pac who let his guard down.
I can't speak for others but one of the greatest reliefs I've ever felt was when I transferred from the ghettos of Miami and went to college in Tallahassee (FAMU) and was able to not worry about getting tried or robbed every day.
There's a heightened sense of aggressiveness that comes from being in the hood which influences the way you carry yourself because you can't look like food on the streets.
If you find yourself in a "safe" environment you may find yourself becoming not as aggressive because you don't have to be.
No version of 2pac is more manly than mjw though lol
Mjw wouldn't need multiple men to help him jump one guy
EXACTLY. I was street kid since like 9. My first time in a university from getting a high score on my ged, it shocked me being around black kids and I didn’t have get tough with them. I was able to let my guard down n have fun. They lived completely different lives than me. They bc were shocked when I told I had beef back home waiting for me so this is like a vacation. One of the best experience in my life that help mold me beyond a street mindset. Came back home thinking different and my old homies couldn’t understand
What you said is common sense it's just theses haters want are still stuck in the 90s😂😂😂
Well spoken/ typed
In my opinion, Tupac's current environment (whatever that was at that place in time) molded him to be who he NEEDED to be... And there's nothing wrong with that! 💯💯💯
Agreed!!!💯💯💯
@@MarkHallOfFameRight. People act like he didn’t live in the worst ghettos and didn’t have to harden himself to survive.
U r basically saying he was a chameleon. Geez
That's called being FAAKE
@@kkaybaltimore😂😂😂. I think he misunderstood. PAC actually grew up in the hood. NY to LA
Michael jai the brother that said he can beat up Bruce Lee, I lost respect for him from that..now when it comes to Pac we all know he was an intelligent brother so we wouldn't expect him to act crazy or unpolite in his first interview, which he quit his job in order to be there.
He absolutely can beat up bruce lee 😂😂wtf...he's a legit martial artist and trains mixed martial arts.
@saynomo6168 you as dumb as him, you fail to understand its a matter of respect, for someone that opened doors for most of the martial artists. He ain't here to defend himself.
@@saynomo6168exactly🤣 MJW is the best martial artist in the world. Twice the size of Bruce Lee and probably just as fast, if not VERY close as Bruce Lee. MJW wins imo
About Bruce Lee Michael j'ai was wrong but about pac its true😊😊
It was Bruce Lee who brought martial arts to the fore front and the western world. If it wasn't for Bruce Lee, nobody in the western world would know how to fight using martial arts. Bruce changed the movies business. Today action movies are using martial arts because Bruce Did it first. Nobody was using martial arts in the movies or anywhere in the western world. Bruce even had a fight against someone, in the studio he had in Oakland, because the Chinese in China was mad that he exposed a secret fighting skill. That's even documented in films.
So, MJW need to give his props to Bruce and understand that he (MJW) wouldn't know martial arts if it wasn't for the Legendary Bruce Lee. And, we all know MJW wouldn't even be in the "low budget" movies (B movies) if he wasn't using martial arts.
Michael J is ignorant. PAC was an adaptable chameleon who blended into his different environments accordingly. He was passionate, sensitive, altruistic, sympathetic, and understanding, but could also get mean, rude, and violent with the snap of a finger and a flip of a switch. He treated you how you treated him and was cultured and intelligent enough to speak on any subject with anyone in any room at any given time. I’m the same way
*WHEN YOU JUMP OUT AND DROP TWO PIGS FOR PEOPLE YOU'VE NEVER MET, YOU'RE A GANGSTA FOR LIFE!!!*
Did 2 drop out and kill his killer? Nope . Aint nobody do shitttttt for him . And he didnt know they were cops . I bet if they had a uniform he wouldn't have did shhittttt
He didn’t know they were cops. He shot back in self defense like any man with balls would.
Facts 👊🏾👊🏾👊🏾💯💯💯
@@jeanmichele3843so what? He still would of done something if they were in uniform bro its 2pac he didn’t back down from nothing
@@JMS849 there’s footage of Pac from 1995 stopping to film these uniformed cops who stopped a black man in a traffic. He didn’t escalate it like he did with those off-duty cops. Pac was brave but he wasn’t dumb.
MJW is too old to be hating on a legend like 2Pac who's not even alive to defend himself.
Spice 1 got them Hawaiian silkyy waves 😂😂😂😂😂
He uses that Murray’s grease
Soul Glo
A process called Duke back in the day
@@gregjohnson7666The Duke Pomade,FRFR,If You Know,You Know!!!!
Thats the only thing you noticed out the video. Sound hella gay
😂😂 people stupid asf just cause Pac had a chill side don’t mean Pac didn’t have a tuff, hell if you piss the nicest person off enough watch how that person transform
FACTS 😂
Chill side? More like a "warm" side
@@minkshultz chill, warm, cool, relax etc damn everybody not tough all the time
"I aint a Killer but don't Push me"
I meant "warm" as in biologically, like a woman's
Spice definitely be cutting his own hair straight gangsta 😂
Nobody is the same person they were at 17, especially celebrities but it doesn’t matter who you are 💯💯💯💯
There’s Pictures online with Tupac and Michael Jai Wife that explains a lot……
That explains what???
@@fruitpac Explains why Micheal Jai White a fragile male!
@@804MRMAN That makes no sense what-so-ever. Thats why you worship that dead ballerina
@@fruitpac implying that someone is jealous of Pac is their favorite defense mechanism against someone saying things that challenges the image they have of Pac.
@@fruitpac yuh in a reel battybwoy
For some context, 2pac also punkd Michael Jai White when they were coming up. Napoleon spoke on it in an interview.
Yea I could see dat. Cuz he discrediting a deceased man who passed away nearly 30 years ago
Michael Jai White isn't a convicted sex offender like Tupac.
@@pesocheco No, he's just speaking facts.
2Pac before fame was mild-mannered not effeminate!!!!
2pac always showed susspect signs from his hand movements to high pitched voice tone in hiz interviews 😂
Michael Jai White is absolutely correct. Sorry about that I met 2Pac before He did the movie juice and then I mseen a Knigge to years later. Complete change I’m from the streets and I’m from the hood. He was never Street in Nigga and he was never a gangster. I grew up with gangsters and I grew up with street Nigga’s And he was not it he went to acting school and he fooled you guys.😅 he studies ballet poetry and dances! Yeah he was not that Gangster he acted like.
Yall niggas weird😂
You must haven't seen the interview Michael Jai White was talking about cause Pac bent his wrist too many times.
Pac was still tht same eff3minate 17 year old for the bathtub ph0t0sh00t t00😂
I bet jai white was getting beat up in New York at 17
He’s the fight actor
You never see him in a real street fight
Okay what Micheal Jai White said was what he personally witnessed. Also the person he exposed himself to. When he said feminine he could be saying that him being raised by woman he displayed more softer behaviors. That’s all.
Michael Jai White is the most polite hater…he knows the fight game in theory and he’d beat up the average man but I think his hate comes from him feeling weak that he never really proved himself to the world on an elite level. But hear him talk he’s always portraying how tough he is
Mjw always talk about Pac in a condescending way it seems. What does another man personality have anything to do with him, at the end of the day Pac will always be 1 million times more significant than him in this earth.
Because you gotta act different in different occasions. There’s a time and place for everything, you talk to your mother a different way, when you conduct business you conduct as a business man , when you’re in the hood you act hood , when you’re around your preppy friends like Michael jai white you act accordingly. PAC just knew how to get to your level
Nobody gets the same version of u.. the energy they give off determines what they get back
When I was 12, I was very gentle, I wanted no problems with people, and at 13 I broke and started fighting for my honor.
Life changes people.
Not to say that Tupac is mega gansta, he became harder as years progressed.
Never understood what Mr. White has against Pac!!!
Napoleon said he tried to get Pac's autograph when he was a Bellboy at an NYC hotel and Pac laughed him off, he's still hurting.
Some people go through their teens without even having a fight n turn out to be boxers or MMA fighters. Same kinda thing with Pac
it's crazy how people hate on tupac because he literally is the biggest ever....and they know that tupac at 25 created it.....and all these people are old now and in theirs 50s and none of them will ever have murals and an impact like tupac did.....
Been listening to Spice since his 1st album dropped.
Most of us were different before we found out what being a black man in America means.
MJW doesnt understand that TRAUMA in a young mans life can change him.
Excuses...
He raised from his mama, no father. Copies the role model figure. Common sense. Then u grow it up a bit and find yourslef more and more as the way you like it. First you formed by yo family, then from your surroundings. Easy.
There's layers to all us
I mean, to be fair, Pac's persona in that video is a COMPLETELY different version of what he was before he died. The one thing about that interview and the rest of them is that he always spoke passionately and and genuinely about what he thought and how he felt.
He was 17 a fucking kid...that went to acting school surrounded by white middle class kids
if you watch his Tabitha Soren interview he sounds the same as when he was 17
He even said that in the MTV base interview that he was different when he was younger, that the money and the fame gave him confidence to be himself, Pac told us all these things we don't need to be filled with lies from Michael Jai white, If you search deeply enough you would know the reason why pac did some things he did
@@ndudipeterelumelupeterelum7183more like the money and fame gave him the false confidence to pretend to be something he wasn't
@@taylorbarrett384 Nah the money and the fame just made ppl jealous , they felt comfortable hatin on him.
People like you.
Feminine don’t make you weak tho bro. It makes you strong.
Spice doing a whole lot of stuttering on this one LOL
Tupac cussed this dude out one night because he asked Tupac where he was hanging out tonight. This was after Tupac was shot and paranoid.
Spice 1 right people do change as they go through life.
HE wasn't soft he was showing girls respect
Right until he got shit on by a few females and that'll change your perspective
Crazy thing about that interview is that Pac's mom was dealing with addiction and Pac was going through serious poverty at the time he even dropped out school shortly after that interview. You're not gonna go through those levels of trials and tribulations and it not harden you. Money B Ray Luv, Shock G all speak to how Pac was before the role of Bishop was even offered to him
Pac went thru hell in marin city n it changed him. On the doc thug immortal, the guys out there were bullying pac n pac was outspoken so he had to back up everything. N he was homeless living couch to couch n in shelters for years.
Pac went through a Disney tale
So marin city is grimier than Harlem?
@@Q.B.2.L.B. maybe maybe not but the circumstances were different...in Harlem n Baltimore he was going to school n he was up under his mom n his aunt n his sister. In Marin City he was homeless n broke n living couch to couch with nothing constructive like school or a job going on...maybe the music....he was out there with no support system n nothing but time on his hands n he was a young bol....that would change anybody...
@@Q.B.2.L.B.back in those days during the crack epidemic is was probably the same ! Now it’s nice and expensive as fuck
lol 😂
I always notice that the dudes who hate on or criticize pac always seem very insecure about the unappealing personalities that they were born with..... just be you.
Pac was real until the end thats why they still talk about him more than any other rapper alive or dead who cares if you a gang memeber or not that still dont make you a man or a real one
💯💯💯
Tupac was more manly that you michael jai can never be
2pac put his career and life on the line to save a black brother on the side of a dark road in Atlanta from possibly getting beat to death and he literally POPPED 2 off-duty cops and that was REAL CHYT. 2pac did what all the brothers in Montgomery Alabama did BEFORE THEY DID IT but you got stupid muh phuhgas who wanna say he wasn't a gangster but they praise people for beating somebody with a folding chair. GET THE PHUHG OUTTA HERE. 2pac is THE REALEST RAPPER THAT EVER LIVED. PERIOD. Shout out to Spice 1 for holding down 2pac💪🏿
I love Pac, but I’ve been saying this since 93-94, and probably before that.
His mannerisms and everything was straight effeminate, like he could’ve been straight, but he was raised around a whole bunch of women.
Go watch those clips MJW’s talking about.
He’s not talking down on Tupac.
He’s just making an observation.
Simply put, Tupac was not as tough nor straight as he thought he was 😂
Tupac being a Gemini is why he was the way he was. He was two different people.
Pac was a Gemini we can be who we need to be at any given moment
2pac is nice and professional when he wants to be,2pac was kind of feminine because he grew up around strong women he says it in his documentary,2pac wasn't soft,he stood for something,if he was your friend he had your back,his music is timeless,you can tell when he rap he means what he says,2pac can be negative but he also can be positive
When you're raised by a single mom you tend to pickUp some of her traits ..."I ain't a Killa but don't push me revenge is like da sweetest joy next to gettin pussy" don't seem effeminate to me Long Live Makaveli Da Don💯😎💨💨👍💪
Was he 17 when he wrote that?
@@jaykaynum5569 why ask a dumbass question ⁉️⁉️ you really must be bored and effeminate lol smh
This is very true. That's why some of his mannerisms came off a feminine. He was mainly raised by women but that doesn't mean he's feminine or soft!
Tupac is a gemini. He had multiple personalities. Tupac could adapt in any environment. What we saw from Tupac is who he is. He's all of that. Thus dude Mike must got some personal issues with pac or sumn.
Tupac fans are about to go crazy on this one
They hate the truth.
“Truth like rain don’t give a fuck who it fall on.”
They were raised eff3minate themselves too 😂
@@Destroyer-Grizzly-BIHthey are fed nesquik milk 😂
Now if MJW said that about 17 year old Biggie or Jay, people would laugh. It's Pac, so he's a hater
We were all young and innocent. That don’t last forever.
So Spice 1 whole life and career revolve around Tupac?
Washed up rappers flock to these channels. I include Yayo in that. Hip hop is cruel to its elders. Look at Melle Mel
It only takes an instant to change a person's perspective.
Get em spice !
Truth hurts lol he was gay wake up
Backup dancing ass nigga lmao
@@CliffBoothMarley
Pac died a legend & u ?
Spice 1ne is pacs main side piece 😂
@@JR-vl6fqwho r u offline keyboard legend?
Ray luv and i quote “17 year old tupac was fighting grown ass man on the daily!!!!”
@joeru9208 FACTS Jai white sounding suckerish 💯
He was catfighting other ballerinas
Cap...unless he brought hiz ballet peers along to help him out 😅
No disrespect to the Drakes, Lil Durks, NBA youngboy the Kendrick Lamars.... but when they die I highly doubt their name will live as long as Pac's have. The definition of the GOAT
Mike ain't never saw nobody punk or mess with 2pac...jealous of 2pac acting career
Exactly and he smash his wife
Pac said it himself and numerous people agree. He was a Gemini with two sides. There's the Brenda go a baby, poems for jada side. Then there's the hit em up, ghost, dark side to him. What made him change more to the latter was seeing people not support him during the rape allegation and laughing behind his back when he was robbed
People only seem to interview him about Pac 😂
They can't interview him about his music cuz the video will have 8 views
Mike tyson was getting bullied and disrespected as a kid and look who he became people do change
Pac was my inspiration for my life i guess im effiminant too
A few times a year I listen to Me against the World to get my mind right when I don't fill my best bro motivated me in 95 and do today.
The things pac went through from 17 onwards made him more ruthless not his role in juice. Pac spoke different when hood people came around him and Michael jai white because he was just speaking another language, people do it every day at work
I know some very dangerous people who are like that 17 year old 2pac Jai described. You don’t need to be too smart to understand life changes people
Asking a guy called Spice 1 about effeminate issues is ironic😂
He held cigarettes like a woman did too.
People forget 2pac was a thespian. Michael Jai white is pointing out that he switched his character to suit the situation. He wasn't disrespecting him.
Michael Jai White definitely seem bitter or jealous of Tupac
Did you watch the whole interview? He was speaking off his experiences with him.
@@machomusprime50but yet no one has ever confirmed they were friends or ever hung out. But mutah did say pac popped off on mike when he worked at a hotel🤷🏾♂️
Yet Tupac could learn real defense Skills from.mjw
@@c.manorboymutah popped a muscle in the same hotel where him and pac were sharing a bed together at too 😂
@@c.manorboy He literally said they would play pool together. What you want, a signed friendship contract? 🤣🤣
Excuses, Excuses, Excuses. All this run around just cause 2Pac fanboys don't want to say that Pac was fake.
Tupac was a gangsta. Spice is loyal, the more loyal to pac he is more i respect him
What’s your definition of a “gangsta” as opposed to a gangster?
@@its_rick_james_bich2575 nah i mean Tupac was a gangster, same thing to me. He was a real g, he would shoot someone without a problem if someone tried to rob him or kill him or something like that. He had no fear and would protect others. He didnt let someone abuse him or something, he was a tough guy
@@ivanicabratulic9297 so if someone tried to kill you, and you had a gun..would you not defend your life with lethal force? A middle aged woman with would probably do that! That doesn’t make them or you a gangster!
Gangsters don’t abide by societies rules..and will do whatever they can to make their money..often illicitly. They will kill to protect themselves, their money and their turf! Most aren’t afraid of prison. Although no doubt, some break codes and snitch!
Your interpretation and understanding of “gangsta” and actual gangsters is not the same!
Man I’m different person when I’m around different people. But I’m always me tho
Naw. It all depends on who he was with. You laid back he’s laid back. He just matched energies lol
tupac had jus a lil bit more heart🤏
The thing MJW didn't understood, Pac grew up among mostly women, Afeni, Aunt Gloria, Sister Set, he had some male figures but at that time he was with mostly women, that's why he acted like that, but he grew to find his own identity without forgetting the values he got from them!
Tupac was in a tutu and said “I’m Tupac shakurrrrrrr im seventeeeeeeen 💅 💅 💅 “
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
With a zestyyy accent 😂
Pac did it all he was a ladies man, he said he tried to sell drugs b4 said he didn’t like that a poet he was articulate smart in school so ppl develop 💯
If you saw the interview of 2PAC that he is talking about, you know EXACTLY what he means. He didn't mean Tupac was "gay", he is saying the early 2PAC was faaaaar from a "Thug". Even Jada (who I am not a fan of, but she KNEW him early on) cosigns that! He was an "artist" a "dancer" a "Philosopher"... not a "thug". I think S[ice 1 called it correctly though..
Tupac was dynamic he wasn't just one-dimensional he code switched around certain folks every real G got a cool side that's law.
Most black men will look at MJW’s take on Tupac and call it hate 😂😂😂😂 he is praising Pac for his artistry and giving his opinion on his portrayal of a hood nigga. The version of Pac we should look up to was Pac the artist, the philosopher, the visionary. Not Pac the degenerate street nigga that got gunned down in Vegas.
Tupac was intelligent and gangsta.. he was more than just 1 stereotype
He was a ballerina stereotype
Not intelligent enough to stay outta street politics😂
Sounds lik u describing Orlando Anderson who was more street literate than tutupac
@FRANKIBABI__ yet you making videos saying how bad gangster rap is and being a gangster is... girl fix ya weave and sit ya bipolar az down
People who are one way all the time, don't understand those of us who've been outside and off the porch since we were children. We learn to adapt to our environment, those who don't have that ability, choose to see us as "phoney" but we're not, we just are whoever we have to be when we have to be it.
Can't believe Michael is trying to make Pac out to be a phoney. 🤡
Been saying this for years swear on everything he took that character bishop created thug life and millions bought into it and that's what everybody fell in love with and he fooled everyone to believing he was a thug a fake thug good actor and rapper tho
Defiant till the end 🙄
"There are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true." -Soren Keirkegaard
So, MJW is talking about the same guy who, in the studio infront of all the people he was trying to "portray" tough to put on a wig pretending to be Rick James? Sounds like the same guy. People grow and change, because MJW has a difficult time understanding and or being a dynamic human doesn't then equate to dynamic humans being actors.
Excuses...MJW told no lies....
@@Q.B.2.L.B. says the ignorant person, where are the excuses? Everything I said was simple logic, you don't have to agree with it but if you aren't in your feelings you would be able to comprehend it. If you want to have a discussion, then have at it but to waste your time to display your ignorance paints you as a 🤡
He was a kid bro he just grew up into who he was people are not born a way we develop and grow and build our characters into what we want
Exactly, it's the same for Bow Wow. People wanted him to stay the cute innocent kid he was. Eventually, he had to grow up one day and become the person who he wanted to be. And he got hate for it.
Some folks will idolize 2pac forever... I liked him but jai white came to the same conclusion I did on my own observations...pac was fronting a lot of the time
What makes you think it was a front? Pac had different sides to his personality. He had a lot of anger and fearlessness from his upbringing by actual revolutionaries in the Black Panther Party and Black Liberation Army. And he grew up in the ghetto in NY and Baltimore right when crack hit the streets. And he also had a poetic and contemplative side, a soft-spoken side. Go and watch an interview of Huey Newton, and really listen to him speak. You would probably never guess that somebody who is that soft-spoken and shy would also be brave enough to shoot down police, or build a movement for the revolutionary overthrow of the US government.
Like when he shot two drunk corrupt off duty cops in the buttocks and got away with it? In a single act gaining more street cred than any rapper in history, since the rest just shoot at their own people eh.
People thinking he was fronting was the exact reason he went all out to the predicted outcome.
You fools still didn't learn the lesson though.
Keeping it real to the prison or grave, usually both.
@nasty.nelson he didn't know what he was doing as far as them being cops and it really does nothing to change the observations in question- an effeminate man saw an opportunity to fire a gun at some guys with their back turned to him... nothing Rambo about it just an opportunist who actually did a good thing with shooting the cop in the butt... but this isn't a testimony to his courage at all...
He was fronting and that's what made him go all out to the predicted outcome as you put it. He put his hands on a real loc and got leaked on Tropicana blvd with his blood homie.... facts
For a older man to say that about a younger man that died early shows he hasn’t grown……..,
Michael Jai White shot pool with Pac once and knew his whole story and character 🤣
😅😅😅😅😅
Meanwhile you've never been around Tupac and you think you can question Michael Jai White who actually knew Tupac personally😂 funny world we live in
@newdimensionjt3452 Well I have been around Tupac at a club and saw how he was moving, so speak what you know. Did I interact, no, I'm not a groupie, nor am I claiming to have known him. Michael Jai White is constantly being contradicted on his analysis of Tupac by people who knew him much, much longer and more in depth. I'd take their word over somebody who simply played pool with Pac once or twice 🤣
@@baustin8281 Then how come he never said anything when 2pac was alive . Massa please the amount of pressures that 2pac have been dealing with since his child hood please Micheal Jai white been facing until his death please much jai white could not go through that ok. 2pac was only 25 and he was still growing and learning so how the fuk Micheal have the gut to judge. Fuk Micheal Jai white he cannot even fight in real life besides fighting. 2pac from the street but Micheal is not but a preppy.
Jai White was right
You have to Gemini to understand a Gemini. We have multiple personalities.
I know Gemini's and I like Gemini's but Pac was just fake.
There's pics of tupac holding a man's hand with the full lovers grip (deathow era), and him on the floor in front of his homie who had his pants by his ankles with a group of dudes, on beds topless wrapped up together, that ballet school video with him & jada pinkeis embarrassing, plus he was VERY feminine & clearly over compensated with exaggerated masculinity & accentuating the bass in his voice, european females used to laugh at him in the 90s tbh! They saw what we didn't at the time-in uk u got laughed at for listening to him no joke!