Thanks for the video and the tip on where to get the hinges. The friction hinge idea sucked from the get-go. I'm a full time RV'er and let me tell you, 4 years after buying a brand-new Keystone Montana, the friction hinges are worn out and will NOT hold the door open in a 15mph wind gust. They should have kept using the door hooks on these things for reliability. Now I'm looking at having to buy and replace all 3 hinges to keep my door from constantly slamming shut
it's ALMOST always better to repair than start over with an overkill/high dollar replacement! thanks for taking the time to document your repair. i'm looking into adding this hinge to my existing door, to reduce the wind slamming/damage to the rv . it doesn't have this feature.
This was timely. We went to check on our fifth wheel in storage yesterday and discovered we couldn’t shut the door because the top hinge was busted. Had to remove some screws and hammer it down. Got the door shut but big gap at top. Ordered a new hinge from e-trailer. Wanted to see how hard this was going to be. Yikes! I hope our hinges aren’t glued down like yours. It is criminal that Keystone wanted to replace the entire door. And same with the dealers. You should take pictures of the new hinge and send it to all of them with a laughing emoji. You did a fantastic job but not many people have the proper tools so they get hosed at the dealers. Thanks for posting the video.
Thank you very much for your video. Especially where to buy that hinge. I just bought an RV, and open the door a few times and just noticed inside of the door skin was crushed, and door frame was bending .The top hinge was binding,now I can replace it after watching your video.
Awesome! I was frustrated at how unhelpful my favorite dealer was and Keystone was absolutely useless. My dealer's only answer was to replace my whole door. Crazy.
My top hinge did this also! Little dab of locktite on that pin and tap it back in with a punch and hammer and it hasnt moved in 2 years. Door still has the "rip" in edge but it worked.
Those 'square headed screws' are a Canadian invention and are great screws for high-torque applications. They are called "Robertson" style. (They would be more famous than Philips head screws but Robertson refused to sell the patent to Ford motor company - so Ford went with the inferior Philips head making them famous.) Nice job on this!
Just a word of advice the next time your dealing with removing rivets. Just use a 1/8 drill bit or appropriate size per the River and drill it out Way easier and faster. Good video though
This was pointless for me to watch but I watched the whole 11 minute portion of the main job before even writing this comment, very good video skills to keep me watching
Great video. I'm about ready to call my Forest River rep and set up a warranty repair for my door. The hinges must be to tight and it has pulled the inside metal casing off the door. My opinion, these doors are made to cheap for any RV use.
Hello Jeff; While I understand what you are doing using the grinder, I am uncertain why you didn't use a drill and suitable size drill bit to "drill out" the rivets. It would have required a significant less effort to remove the old hinge. Overall, not a bad demonstration. Your attention to detail to straighten and paint the damaged trim on the door shows your desire to make things look good; not just work. I noticed you DID NOT replace the rivets on the hinge...any reason aside from the fact that the new hinge did not have holes for rivets or additional fasteners.
These rivets were very round & powder coated, plus since I had no need or intention to save the hinge, the grinder was easy and fast! If I had intention of saving the hinge, then drilling definitely makes sense.
I see this video is 2 years old, how has your hinge held up? My hinges have completely ripped off from the door frame pulling that metal from it and exposing the Styrofoam under it. Also bottom hinge but now the top hinge is pulling away from the metal where the 3 screws are. I'm wondering if replacing the hinge would work for me or replacing the door. 😢
There was no instructions included with the hinge I bought… and the screws I put in place of the rivets were pretty tough. We used the door a ton this last season & it’s still perfect
@@breezeinSTL Good to hear it has held up. I installed the friction hinges on our trailer that did not come with them, and the instructions called for my to drill two additional holes in each frame tab. I skipped this step and had two tabs rip the screws out of my door frame mangling it so bad the door would not shut...
Glad you fixed your door. Not sure why you chose the method of grinding off the rivets instead of a clean drilling them out. But who am I to judge. Good job ! It works now that’s what really matters.
Grinding was easier as the rivets were rounded off & I had no intention of re-using the hinge, so there was nothing to damage. If I was going to reuse the hinge, I would have center punched & drilled. Simple as that really. It was only difficult to grind because I was trying to video the event. Now I have a gopro & a tripod so I can do my next video on instlaling the Floe air compressor bleed down system...
Any chance you can send a link to the place you bought the hinge? I need to do a similar replacement but only able to find a white non-friction Hinge. Thanks for the video!
Nevermind... Listened to your video again and heard you got it from Lippert and found the URL store.lci1.com/friction-hinge-kit-for-lci-entry-doors-black-2020102629.html
This link is to a set of add on friction hinges that are only 5 leaf. I can’t find a replacement 6 leaf friction hinge on their website. Only 6 leaf are for non friction. Perhaps I’m missing something?
@@cgviper1 yeah found that out the hard way. Got these delivered and realized my mistake. They do sell the replacement hinge though. You do a search for friction hinge and then you will see one various color. The price will be something like $48 and you will only get one hinge. Got the six leaf hinge delivered this paste week.
Yup. I would normally agree; however they were totally rounded rivets, and the time it would take me to center punch & drill vs just grinding them off made me choose grinding.
@@jeffbriesemeister2284 Grinding the rivet head off was good. Then you should have center punched the rivets thru or drilled them at that point. Overall it was a good video.
Thanks for the video and the tip on where to get the hinges. The friction hinge idea sucked from the get-go. I'm a full time RV'er and let me tell you, 4 years after buying a brand-new Keystone Montana, the friction hinges are worn out and will NOT hold the door open in a 15mph wind gust. They should have kept using the door hooks on these things for reliability. Now I'm looking at having to buy and replace all 3 hinges to keep my door from constantly slamming shut
That is definitely frustrating for such a new rig to have a problem with something as simple as a freaking door hinge...
it's ALMOST always better to repair than start over with an overkill/high dollar replacement! thanks for taking the time to document your repair. i'm looking into adding this hinge to my existing door, to reduce the wind slamming/damage to the rv . it doesn't have this feature.
This was timely. We went to check on our fifth wheel in storage yesterday and discovered we couldn’t shut the door because the top hinge was busted. Had to remove some screws and hammer it down. Got the door shut but big gap at top. Ordered a new hinge from e-trailer. Wanted to see how hard this was going to be. Yikes! I hope our hinges aren’t glued down like yours. It is criminal that Keystone wanted to replace the entire door. And same with the dealers. You should take pictures of the new hinge and send it to all of them with a laughing emoji. You did a fantastic job but not many people have the proper tools so they get hosed at the dealers. Thanks for posting the video.
Thank you so much for this man!! I was at a loss when they told me the whole thing had to be replaced! I am way to broke to afford that...
I've got the same door and I would have never found the hinges online by just searching "rv door hinge"
Thank you very much for your video. Especially where to buy that hinge. I just bought an RV, and open the door a few times and just noticed inside of the door skin was crushed, and door frame was bending .The top hinge was binding,now I can replace it after watching your video.
Awesome! I was frustrated at how unhelpful my favorite dealer was and Keystone was absolutely useless. My dealer's only answer was to replace my whole door. Crazy.
Nice job Jeff!
Love this! Thanks so much for posting Jeff! Glad it all worked out for you! :)
Is this 6 leaf friction hinge still available? All I can find on the site are 5 leaf friction hinges.
@@cgviper1 I just bought 2 on Amazon
Thanks for the video! Gave me the confidence to tackle a broken hinge myself on an rpod.
Thanks helped me figure out what I needed to know. Great video
My top hinge did this also! Little dab of locktite on that pin and tap it back in with a punch and hammer and it hasnt moved in 2 years. Door still has the "rip" in edge but it worked.
Those 'square headed screws' are a Canadian invention and are great screws for high-torque applications. They are called "Robertson" style. (They would be more famous than Philips head screws but Robertson refused to sell the patent to Ford motor company - so
Ford went with the inferior Philips head making them famous.)
Nice job on this!
Wish I had of seen this before I ordered a new door for our Denali. Would have saved me a grand.
Just a word of advice the next time your dealing with removing rivets. Just use a 1/8 drill bit or appropriate size per the River and drill it out
Way easier and faster. Good video though
Glad I came across this video and glad I saw this comment!! Was about to grind those bad boys out... Drilling is definitely going to be better 🤣
I'm having this same problem. thanks for the inspiration!
This was pointless for me to watch but I watched the whole 11 minute portion of the main job before even writing this comment, very good video skills to keep me watching
Fair enough! :)
Great video. I'm about ready to call my Forest River rep and set up a warranty repair for my door. The hinges must be to tight and it has pulled the inside metal casing off the door. My opinion, these doors are made to cheap for any RV use.
Unfortunately very true…!
Mine is doing that too....but it's also 10 years old and we bought from a friend so unfortunately, no warranty coverage. Did they replace your door?
Very nice video
Very informative video thanks
Goodjob man!!! Great vid ! Going to fix my door soon now !
Well done!
Robertson :) not richardson for square head screws. Great video
Ha! Should have remembered that… learned it wrong years ago,.. 😂
Super helpful thanks.
Hi Jeff where did you buy the hinges. I look on Amazon and I can’t find it.
Thank you
Hello Jeff;
While I understand what you are doing using the grinder, I am uncertain why you didn't use a drill and suitable size drill bit to "drill out" the rivets. It would have required a significant less effort to remove the old hinge. Overall, not a bad demonstration. Your attention to detail to straighten and paint the damaged trim on the door shows your desire to make things look good; not just work. I noticed you DID NOT replace the rivets on the hinge...any reason aside from the fact that the new hinge did not have holes for rivets or additional fasteners.
Where did you find these? The only ones I can find anywhere do not have the bottom leaf to hold the screen door
My friction door is separating on hinge side - this seems to be an issue with them. Warranty service scheduled to replace door
Is this the type of hinge that doesn’t slam shut from the wind?
Exactly
I have removed rivets all the time use a drill bit the ssme size as the hole used to install them . They wiill drill out easy .
These rivets were very round & powder coated, plus since I had no need or intention to save the hinge, the grinder was easy and fast! If I had intention of saving the hinge, then drilling definitely makes sense.
Do you have a part number or sku for the hinge?
it's a square head insert as opposed to USA Phillips less stripping
I see this video is 2 years old, how has your hinge held up? My hinges have completely ripped off from the door frame pulling that metal from it and exposing the Styrofoam under it. Also bottom hinge but now the top hinge is pulling away from the metal where the 3 screws are. I'm wondering if replacing the hinge would work for me or replacing the door. 😢
It is still actually working perfectly even after 2 seasons of use since changing the hinge
Do the door pins slide out? I think i need to uninstall them in order to readjust the existing door hinges.
No, I don’t see how. Pins are fixed jn place
Could have maybe filled in the gaps with JB weld
Square head screw is called a Robertson screw. 👍
Where did you purchase the hinge?
what is the name of that hinge?
How do you adjust the tension ?
They are Robertson screws
Was there a reason you chose not to follow the instructions from Lippert and drill / install the additional two screws per tab?
There was no instructions included with the hinge I bought… and the screws I put in place of the rivets were pretty tough. We used the door a ton this last season & it’s still perfect
@@breezeinSTL Good to hear it has held up. I installed the friction hinges on our trailer that did not come with them, and the instructions called for my to drill two additional holes in each frame tab. I skipped this step and had two tabs rip the screws out of my door frame mangling it so bad the door would not shut...
Thanks much
Glad you fixed your door. Not sure why you chose the method of grinding off the rivets instead of a clean drilling them out. But who am I to judge. Good job ! It works now that’s what really matters.
Grinding was easier as the rivets were rounded off & I had no intention of re-using the hinge, so there was nothing to damage. If I was going to reuse the hinge, I would have center punched & drilled. Simple as that really. It was only difficult to grind because I was trying to video the event. Now I have a gopro & a tripod so I can do my next video on instlaling the Floe air compressor bleed down system...
Any chance you can send a link to the place you bought the hinge? I need to do a similar replacement but only able to find a white non-friction Hinge. Thanks for the video!
Nevermind... Listened to your video again and heard you got it from Lippert and found the URL store.lci1.com/friction-hinge-kit-for-lci-entry-doors-black-2020102629.html
@@OlaGbolahan that's the one!
This link is to a set of add on friction hinges that are only 5 leaf. I can’t find a replacement 6 leaf friction hinge on their website. Only 6 leaf are for non friction. Perhaps I’m missing something?
@@cgviper1 yeah found that out the hard way. Got these delivered and realized my mistake. They do sell the replacement hinge though. You do a search for friction hinge and then you will see one various color. The price will be something like $48 and you will only get one hinge. Got the six leaf hinge delivered this paste week.
@@OlaGbolahan Thank you. Found it now, $49 for 1 hinge is pretty steep, beats replacing the door though I guess.
Was the hinge you bought a friction hinge
Yes… the link I posted was the exact one I used. If I didn’t replace with a friction hinge, the door would be really awkward to open and close
Did your hinges squeeze in between the door and jamb? I need to change my middle set and just realized that it might be a hassle
@Colby- It came out fine when the door was open, so I don't believe you'll have a problem.
Jeff Briesemeister awesome thanks!
Use a punch to drive out remainder of rivets.
Is anybody else's friction for hinge is so tight that the lower part of their door is deteriorating?
Yes. It's separated my door to the point I may have to replace the whole thing
Drill the rivets
Drill out rivets.
drill out the rivets
Yup. I would normally agree; however they were totally rounded rivets, and the time it would take me to center punch & drill vs just grinding them off made me choose grinding.
@@jeffbriesemeister2284 Grinding the rivet head off was good. Then you should have center punched the rivets thru or drilled them at that point. Overall it was a good video.
Friction hinges are the worst
No argument here. Should have done something with a gas shock.
worst design
No argument here. Should have done something with a gas shock.